Don't buy any food stuffs made in china!!!!!!!!!!!

[pduffy4]

CAN THIS BE A STICKY FOR A WHILE? THANKS.

Got a e-mail from Dr Carley (I'm on her list) about food safety with a warning not to eat any food produce from China.

I found these links just below myself, any other links or info others have is most welcome. TIME TO START SERIOUSLY ASKING OUR SUPERMARKETS WHERE THEY GET THERE FOOD FROM. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE "COUNTRY OF ORIGIN" ACTUALLY MEANS WHERE THE FISH OR CHICKEN WERE REARED OR CAUGHT.
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2007/10/24/product_of_canada_eh/

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2007/10/24/fish/

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105297.0 Good comments on this forum.

PRODUCT OF CANADA? "DON'T BET ON IT"!
http://www.nowpublic.com/environment/product-canada-dont-bet-it-0

From ellenroseman.com [check out the links in her brief article, comments below.]
http://www.ellenroseman.com/?p=79



Below in blue is the original e-mail from Dr Carley minus the images as they did not actually come through in the e-mail:
Subject: Here's a SOBERING report from "CBC Marketplace" This is important to read -- ESPECIALLY if you like those little "SPICY CHICKEN NUGGETS" from Wal-Mart and CostCo.

This CBC "Marketplace" show was downright sickening. On imported foodstuffs - to state that it is "Made in Canada" - "51% has to be Canadian", but THAT 51% includes the "packaging and the running of the warehouse, etc., not just the contents of the packaged or canned foods." Wow!



Have a taste for chicken tenders? READ THIS!

WATCH WHAT YOU BUY - ESPECIALLY "HIGHLINER FISH" PRODUCTS! ALL their fish come from China, even though the box says "Product of Canada" it is from China and "processed" in Canada where the the coating is added and packaged! The fish are raised in pens in China using chemicals that are banned here in Canada as cancer-causing, but legal in China. This was exposed on CBC TV's Marketplace.

This one will make you think before buying anything from China.

BUY YOUR FOOD AT WAL-MART?

Well, are you enjoying seeing Chinese food popping up in your supermarket left and right? Have you noticed you can't buy a single package of fish that isn't made in China (or Vietnam)? Do you think your food from China is processed in a sanitary manner, and thus safe to eat? Take a look at this!!

REMEMBER WAL-MART is one of the LARGEST BUYERS OF CHINESE PRODUCTS!!!

THINK ABOUT IT. These undercover enclosed pictures speak a thousand words. Avoid buying all processed food packaged in China! Anything goes! We just don't know what else is in those packages. Unlike in the U.S. and CANADA , China does not have laws regulating food processing.

Basically, do not buy any processed food from China, also Hong Kong, too. MANY companies are using a Hong Kong address to avoid this type of image reputation.

[qeutey]

Got a e-mail from Dr Carley (I'm on her list) about food safety with a warning not to eat any food produce from China.

If it is good enough for 1.3 billion Chinese people ..... !?!?!?!?!?

Look at all the scare stories coming out of some European countries :eek:

[pduffy4]

If it is good enough for 1.3 billion Chinese people ..... !?!?!?!?!?

Look at all the scare stories coming out of some European countries :eek:

If it is not good for us it is not good for the Chinese either.

[ownoiz]

Westeners eating Chinese food is part of the agenda. It ties in with the water and hence food takeovers and shakeouts in Australia, and now seemingly the attempts by the "green" :rolleyes: movement in parts of the USA such as California, Delta Smelt etc.

Australias duopoly supermarkets have a stranglehold on food sales here, with seemingly no end to their ever increasing share of market domination, no government policy or anti trust laws to stop them.

For example coles and Woolworths control 70% of packaged food sales, compare this to US retail giant Wal-Mart, who despite their size and potential to dominate, have been held at 14% market share via government policy.

These Australian supermarkets are sneakily ever increasing the importation of food products to China, while assisting in the demise of Australian based food production, unbeknownst to most Australians.

http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-import-flood-ignored-by-govt/1444887.aspx (http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-import-flood-ignored-by-govt/1444887.aspx)

http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-floods-aus-markets/1413009.aspx (http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-floods-aus-markets/1413009.aspx)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5769/pennywongwoolworths.jpg

Remember folks, you saw it here first, Australia is often the trial run for things to come elsewhere...
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"All good things must come to an end" - Kevin "i speak fluent Mandarin" Rudd

[motleyhoo]

This is a great post. The Chinese have been caught corrupting not only their food exports but also the food they feed their own people. For instance, it has been reported by Chinese officials themselves that thousands of Chinese have been sickened with Melamine, a substance used to produce plastic that artificially boosts the detectable levels of protein in food. Their children have especially been hit hard with kidney stones and kidney failure. We ALL know that if they themselves are reporting thousands then the number is likely more in the millions. This same substance has been found in their exported products also and has been responisble for the deaths (from kidney failure and stones) of thousands of peoples' pets here in the US. IMO, an unreported story is how many people in the US have also had kidney problems from Melamine, and I am sure this has been covered up because China is a "Favored Nation" here.

Melamine is likely the tip of the iceberg, and unless the Chinese govt reports it we will not know.

But here is what is even more dangerous. The major pharmaceutical companies get almost all of the ingredients that go into their drugs from China. Very few people know this because the drug companies (for obvious reasons) don't go out of their way to make it known. They all have contracts with Chinese chemical factories to produce these chemicals for pennies of what it would cost domestically under our stricter guidelines. The bottom line is, if they can't produce safe food, how in the hell are we trusting them to produce something as sensitive and potentially dangerous as what goes into making our pharmaceuticals. This is another reason to stay away from Doctors.

The more we become dependent on China, the more we become their slaves, and the more we open ourselves up to a backdoor attack thru the intentional contamination of our food and drugs.

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[branjo]

I think going veggie is the only option now, and its not a great option either, with these monsanto bastards ruining it from each and every seed with their GM garbage.

I loved Red Meat, Fish and Chicken but now I gave them all up, 1 because I wanted to eat something that didn't have to be slaughtered and 2. Even if your a meat lover your still getting untainted meat or chicken anywhere you buy it.

It seems the only power the PTB give us, is the power of the consumer, so either we use our choice of not buying this shit or we eat it and deserve everything we get.

Cheers pduffy4, I will inform people of this on my travels.

[gilly]

The logistics alone, of this "food" travelling from China to Canada, then across the globe to us - even before you start thinking about the conditions in which the chicken / fish, or whatever, have been reared, and the crud that's added to flavour, colour & preserve, are stomach churning.

The thing that enrages me, is that they're no doubt quuote happy to have this kind of news leaked, because it gives them an excuse to push the mandetory radiation (& other unnatural interference) of food products, as per Codex.

The message once again, is buy fresh local produce wherever availability and finances allow.

Every kid I know loves chicken nuggets - don't think of touching the processed ones - it's dead easy to make your own & they're delicious...

Recipe:
Makes 12 - 16 nuggets (bigger than the purchased ones, so feeds 4 easily).

2 skinned chicken breast fillets
aprox 285 ml plain, natural yogurt
1 or 2 tsp of lemon juice
150g cheesy saltines (eg. Ritz Crackers)
vegetable oil

Put the fillets individually into a freezer bag, and flatten by bashing it with a rolling pin until the chicken's quite thin. Remove from bag & cut into aprox. 8 goujons per fillet.

Tip these, along with the yogurt & lemon juice into a container & seal, then leave it in the fridge to marinate for anything from 6 hours to 2 days.

To cook, heat a little oil in a none-stick frying pan. Tip the crackers into a freezer bag, tie the end of the bag up, and bash them, then roll with a rolling pin to make fine crumbs.

Tip the crumbs into a wide, shallow dish, shake excess marinade off the nuggets and dip them in the crumbs, pressing, to coat them well.

Cook for 2 or 3 minutes per side, until godlen brown, & drain excess oil on kitchen paper.

Sorry if that seems a bit off topic, but the number of friends who've commented that they have to buy nuggets, because it's all their little ones will eat, is amazing, and nuggets are one of the nastiest things in the shops!

[ritchs]

Not only that, but TPTB want to keep grinding us down in a "Terror Storm" of fear. Its like the Tylenol scare in the 80's only with food. People afraid of what they're ingesting, "Is it safe?"

I so flocking fed up. Chemtrails poisoning us from above, contaminated food from abroad, urging & coercing people to get vaccinations (god knows whats in those things) and a weaponized version of the Flu, the Baxter incident. Haarp waves, emf's etc

But it really shows them for what they are: Cowards, total cowards. It is a cowardly way to kill someone, no direct pulling of a trigger, no collateral damage to infrastructure, just kill the stupid sheeps.

We may be sheeps, but watch out fuckers. Every dog has their day.

[pduffy4]

This is a great post. The Chinese have been caught corrupting not only their food exports but also the food they feed their own people. For instance, it has been reported by Chinese officials themselves that thousands of Chinese have been sickened with Melamine, a substance used to produce plastic that artificially boosts the detectable levels of protein in food. Their children have especially been hit hard with kidney stones and kidney failure. We ALL know that if they themselves are reporting thousands then the number is likely more in the millions. This same substance has been found in their exported products also and has been responisble for the deaths (from kidney failure and stones) of thousands of peoples' pets here in the US. IMO, an unreported story is how many people in the US have also had kidney problems from Melamine, and I am sure this has been covered up because China is a "Favored Nation" here.

Melamine is likely the tip of the iceberg, and unless the Chinese govt reports it we will not know.

But here is what is even more dangerous. The major pharmaceutical companies get almost all of the ingredients that go into their drugs from China. Very few people know this because the drug companies (for obvious reasons) don't go out of their way to make it known. They all have contracts with Chinese chemical factories to produce these chemicals for pennies of what it would cost domestically under our stricter guidelines. The bottom line is, if they can't produce safe food, how in the hell are we trusting them to produce something as sensitive and potentially dangerous as what goes into making our pharmaceuticals. This is another reason to stay away from Doctors.

The more we become dependent on China, the more we become their slaves, and the more we open ourselves up to a backdoor attack thru the intentional contamination of our food and drugs.

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Great information motleyhoo. It appears to be the plan of the Jesuits to use China to produce the worlds food. This is why the EU (Jesuits) has been destroying the food and fish production of the UK. The Jesuits have spent centuries using the UK and USA to do their dirty work for them now they are destroying these to nations by every means at the cowardly disposal.

[pduffy4]

Not only that, but TPTB want to keep grinding us down in a "Terror Storm" of fear. Its like the Tylenol scare in the 80's only with food. People afraid of what they're ingesting, "Is it safe?"

I so flocking fed up. Chemtrails poisoning us from above, contaminated food from abroad, urging & coercing people to get vaccinations (god knows whats in those things) and a weaponized version of the Flu, the Baxter incident. Haarp waves, emf's etc

But it really shows them for what they are: Cowards, total cowards. It is a cowardly way to kill someone, no direct pulling of a trigger, no collateral damage to infrastructure, just kill the stupid sheeps.

We may be sheeps, but watch out fuckers. Every dog has their day.

These are the End Days of the old Roman Empire. They are destroying it to make way for the new Empire of Zion.

[shiny]

If you google china fur trade you’ll see some shocking footage of how they treat animals over there, it is just sickening. After I saw that I have tried to avoid buying things made in china, but it’s almost impossible to avoid.

I agree with branjo, veggie is the way to go. I stopped eating meat a few months ago, it hasn’t been difficult because I didn’t eat that much to begin with, but I still eat fish and probably eat more fish than I did before. I am going to seriously turn my thoughts to cutting out fish now. Aside from the physical health benefits of not eating meat, I think it’s good for the spirit also, meat has a lower, denser vibration than vegetables and lowers our own vibration too.

[branjo]

If you google china fur trade you’ll see some shocking footage of how they treat animals over there, it is just sickening. After I saw that I have tried to avoid buying things made in china, but it’s almost impossible to avoid.

I agree with branjo, veggie is the way to go. I stopped eating meat a few months ago, it hasn’t been difficult because I didn’t eat that much to begin with, but I still eat fish and probably eat more fish than I did before. I am going to seriously turn my thoughts to cutting out fish now. Aside from the physical health benefits of not eating meat, I think it’s good for the spirit also, meat has a lower, denser vibration than vegetables and lowers our own vibration too.

I am in complete agreement with you there, some people will say we are nuts for thinking about the vibrational aspect of it but the resonance of life is the deciding factor of its experience.

When something is killed its stress memory goes into the very genetics within the meat, and we consume that stress with knife and fork. Sorry I don't want to turn the thread into a veggie debate, its a health issue so back on track.

I don't blame China like they are the bad guy here, we have to accept responsibility for everything whether we had knowledge of it or not. The USA will compete with China on a level were they are perceived as different.

China is all about keeping up with the demand rather than quality, and the USA is under more scrutiny from its people, but it would gladly welcome the control of the people just like China...lol.

So China is only trying to keep its head afloat any way it can, they are a far older nation than most of the western world by thousands of years, so although its important to send them a message of "we would like better care of our purchased products" we can only show it buy not buying them.

That aside though, The Chinese are not putting it on the shelves in the US, its real Americans with a real disregard for other Americans that are putting a quick buck over the health of their countrymen. There would be no supply without the demand in this case I feel.

Still it doesn't change the fact that we need to stop buying shit for shit not to be sold, so it makes sense to leave it on the shelf to rot, and the lesson be quickly learned that for the most part, we are in control of what we buy.

[markomac]

If you google china fur trade you’ll see some shocking footage of how they treat animals over there, it is just sickening. After I saw that I have tried to avoid buying things made in china, but it’s almost impossible to avoid.

I agree with branjo, veggie is the way to go. I stopped eating meat a few months ago, it hasn’t been difficult because I didn’t eat that much to begin with, but I still eat fish and probably eat more fish than I did before. I am going to seriously turn my thoughts to cutting out fish now. Aside from the physical health benefits of not eating meat, I think it’s good for the spirit also, meat has a lower, denser vibration than vegetables and lowers our own vibration too.

I would love to try this veggie approach, but I dont like enough of them. I am in my late 20's and only ate green beans for the first time last year, I do like them if they are soft and not crunchy.

I only just ate some red pepper two days ago, I always loved the flavour just not the texture.

Cabbage, brocoli, spinage, you can forget it!

Maybe I need to reprogram myself?

[dragond]

why buy processed food in the first place? and why do people still shop at WAlmarts/Tescos/Asda and so on? these people only care about profits rather than consumer health.. support ur local butchers if u dont wanna go vegeterian.. get ur veggies from farm shops, or even better grow ur own.. learn to cook instead of microwave food.. heard of the saying , u are what u eat.. chemicals in food never sat well with me and as soon as i realised i stopped eating the junk.. after all that is what it is..

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[dragond]

Still it doesn't change the fact that we need to stop buying shit for shit not to be sold, so it makes sense to leave it on the shelf to rot, and the lesson be quickly learned that for the most part, we are in control of what we buy.

i defenitley agree with u here but u do know people are no longer in control of what they eat.. its the TV that tells them what to buy and eat.. until people realise this FACT then we're gonna see alot more of this threads in the near future.. Human Kind will never learn..

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[branjo]

I was the same dude, I still to this day salivate at the thought of a toasted bacon sandwich covered in HP sauce (Homer drool.....B a c o n...aaaaugh)...lol, but I don't cause of the way pigs are kept, fed, processed and treated. My conscience of it has kinda over taken my hunger for it, ya know?

I'm glad I read info like this thread for a feeling that I am doing the right thing by not eating meat for health reasons first and foremost. I might at some point still eat fish because as Kirk Cobain said in one of his lyrics, "Its ok to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings" and it was a shotgun that killed him, not fish :D

[tom bombadil]

More of the same. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64748

Stick to home grown.

[ritchs]

Thanks mods, for making this a sticky. This is really important and needs to be on everyones radar for a while! :)

[dude111]

An excellent thread!

I have some friends in China and i have alerted them to this!!

[gripit]

I watched this when it aired. It was actually the only time people I worked with listened to me without thinking I was a nutter :rolleyes: Basically, Canadian fisherman are paid not to fish, to try and boost the stocks...or so they claim. So, instead we get blocks of garbage from Asia and label it "Product of Canada." Have a look at a fucking map, we shouldn't have to get fish from anywhere else! Christ!

[motleyhoo]

If you google china fur trade you’ll see some shocking footage of how they treat animals over there, it is just sickening. After I saw that I have tried to avoid buying things made in china, but it’s almost impossible to avoid.

I agree with branjo, veggie is the way to go. I stopped eating meat a few months ago, it hasn’t been difficult because I didn’t eat that much to begin with, but I still eat fish and probably eat more fish than I did before. I am going to seriously turn my thoughts to cutting out fish now. Aside from the physical health benefits of not eating meat, I think it’s good for the spirit also, meat has a lower, denser vibration than vegetables and lowers our own vibration too.

There was a fad product that was all the rage here in the US a few years ago. It was these sleeping cat stuffed animals that looked real. It turns out that the reason that they look real is because they really are real stuffed cats that have been placed in cute sleeping poses. They sold millions of those things and I don't have to tell you what that means. It is disgusting, but people in our materialistic society will buy anything if they think the rest of the herd is buying it.

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[false flag]

Westeners eating Chinese food is part of the agenda. It ties in with the water and hence food takeovers and shakeouts in Australia, and now seemingly the attempts by the "green" :rolleyes: movement in parts of the USA such as California, Delta Smelt etc.

Australias duopoly supermarkets have a stranglehold on food sales here, with seemingly no end to their ever increasing share of market domination, no government policy or anti trust laws to stop them.

For example coles and Woolworths control 70% of packaged food sales, compare this to US retail giant Wal-Mart, who despite their size and potential to dominate, have been held at 14% market share via government policy.

These Australian supermarkets are sneakily ever increasing the importation of food products to China, while assisting in the demise of Australian based food production, unbeknownst to most Australians.

http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-import-flood-ignored-by-govt/1444887.aspx (http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-import-flood-ignored-by-govt/1444887.aspx)

http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-floods-aus-markets/1413009.aspx (http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/chinese-food-floods-aus-markets/1413009.aspx)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5769/pennywongwoolworths.jpg

Remember folks, you saw it here first, Australia is often the trial run for things to come elsewhere...
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"All good things must come to an end" - Kevin "i speak fluent Mandarin" Rudd

Great post there mate!
I remember when they showed orange growers in Mildura bulldozing their trees, while piles of perfectly good fruit sat mouldering. Yet go to the local coles or safeways and they sell oranges from bloody California. The supermarkets piss me off in this country. I try to get some things from aldi but they are probably dodgy like the others.

[ownoiz]

Great post there mate!
I remember when they showed orange growers in Mildura bulldozing their trees, while piles of perfectly good fruit sat mouldering. Yet go to the local coles or safeways and they sell oranges from bloody California. The supermarkets piss me off in this country. I try to get some things from aldi but they are probably dodgy like the others.

Hi mate, yeah Mildura and irrigation in the MDB is finished IMO, its just that some of the growers dont know it yet as they are strung along. TPTB have another agenda for that water, and allowing food producers to use it isnt one of them. Environmental flows are the flavour of the day, TPTB have a history of using the green movement to reach desired objectives.

Ironically TPTB are attempting to do the same thing in California, (drought/climate change/green movement versus food production) but the americans arent asleep like here, and its a neverending struggle for TPTB with lawsuits etc from irrigators.

What you dont see on TV, is that many of the big big plantations here are for sale, but no ones buying, because the security of the government water allocations is now non existant, and places like Mildura are simply a desert without water. Some of the largest vineyards owned by Fosters and Hardys wines, all of the Timbercorp stuff - the largest almond and olive plantations in the Southern Hemisphere, and many other large and small operations are trying to get out, its like Mr Burns trying to sell his broken power plant to the germans. (simpsons episode)

TPTB want us to eat food from China. The agriculture minister Tony Burke has visited China to set up assistance for their agriculture industry to use our information, know-how and technology, as reported in the MSM.

All i can say is, if you go to greengrocers and small independants, the produce is much more likely to be local. Avoid Coles and Woolworths and Aldi if possible, and avoid packaged foods as much as possible.

Imported fruit and veg in the big supermarkets could possibly have sat in cold storage rooms devoid of oxygen, blanketed in Nitrogen, to avoid rot, for weeks or months, there have been some stories about what the big supermarkets get up to. They do this because they buy from China in bulk, then store it in their enourmous capital city facilities (they have one or more in every large city, both Coles and Woolworths) before distributing locally with their own trucks...instead of turning over fresh produce, they make more money this way.

The small operators, even if they wanted to, dont have the buying power or the facilities to do this, so its more likely that locally sourced produce is used.

And Aldi has been caught selling doctored food in Europe so id guess they arent much better, especially here, since food checks are much stricter in Europe than here.
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"All good things must come to an end" - Kevin "i speak fluent Mandarin" Rudd

[hawk]

Motleyhoo, you hit the nail right on the head. You're right,people over here are crazy for buying everything that everyone else has. It's a case of keeping up with the Joneses'.
I can't understand the fantasy of this. Maybe that's why I never have any money for Xmas, becuz I don't buy gifts for people who are so caught up in commercialism.
Most of these people over here swear up and down that Xmas was never a Pagan holiday. I'm of the mind that Xmas is pagan in origin, ok? There was a debate over here on Craigslist in the Charlotte, NC Rants and Raves forum earlier this year. You should have seen the religious fanatics that came out of the wood work when I mentioned this. They were swearing up and down it wasn't true.
Then someone else came up and backed up what I was saying on the board. But you gotta remember, I live right in the middle of the Bible Belt. I don't go to church.My brother-in-law is a pentecostal preacher, he even asked me was I going to church anywhere this past week, and I told him no. You know what his response was: "Well, you didn't lie about that." I was like, "Wtf? what does it matter? Just becuz I don't believe like you do doesn't make me a bad person. Besides,who are you to judge me?" I just got up and walked off. That's why I will not go to church.
Tired of people telling me what to do. No wonder Lucifer rebelled. Frankly, I can't blame him. Could you?

[motleyhoo]

Motleyhoo, you hit the nail right on the head. You're right,people over here are crazy for buying everything that everyone else has. It's a case of keeping up with the Joneses'.
I can't understand the fantasy of this. Maybe that's why I never have any money for Xmas, becuz I don't buy gifts for people who are so caught up in commercialism.
Most of these people over here swear up and down that Xmas was never a Pagan holiday. I'm of the mind that Xmas is pagan in origin, ok? There was a debate over here on Craigslist in the Charlotte, NC Rants and Raves forum earlier this year. You should have seen the religious fanatics that came out of the wood work when I mentioned this. They were swearing up and down it wasn't true.
Then someone else came up and backed up what I was saying on the board. But you gotta remember, I live right in the middle of the Bible Belt. I don't go to church.My brother-in-law is a pentecostal preacher, he even asked me was I going to church anywhere this past week, and I told him no. You know what his response was: "Well, you didn't lie about that." I was like, "Wtf? what does it matter? Just becuz I don't believe like you do doesn't make me a bad person. Besides,who are you to judge me?" I just got up and walked off. That's why I will not go to church.
Tired of people telling me what to do. No wonder Lucifer rebelled. Frankly, I can't blame him. Could you?

Believe me, I know. I live in the Bible belt also, and grew up in a strict Souther Baptist family. I had 2 relatives who were ordained Ministers and I had to attend a church in rural Virginia every Sunday that my late Grandfather ministered. I loved the man to death, and I still struggle everyday with the guilt I feel over turning my back on "the church". There's so much hypocracy out there. You take the whole Miss California debacle. Here we have a woman who claims to be a Christian and is using her crown as a pulpit for her dogma, when her very life's work revolves around the celebration of vanity and ego. That's the thing about modern Christianity, it has perverted its origins into something that is ego-centric instead of soul-centric. That is why its the Christians who support war, capital punishment, conflict., and materialistic holidays.

You could sum up the modern Christian belief is one phrase, "Believe and ye shall be saved." And here I am thinking that actions speak louder than words or beliefs. Silly me!

Sorry to hijack this thread but I needed to rant.

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[elrafaargentino]

what happens if this is an attempt to boycott the Chinese market?

[morjo]

Why do they want us to eat food from China? Can't they manipulate the food in our own countries?

[motleyhoo]

Why do they want us to eat food from China? Can't they manipulate the food in our own countries?


Because it's grown, picked, and processed by virtual slaves who are lucky to make a buck a day, and so they can buy food that doesn't have to conform to expensive domestic safety and environmental guidelines. Now ask yourself why the savings are not passed to you, and then ask yourself what are they doing with all of that extra profit.

In other words, they don't want you eating food from China specifically. They just want to sell you the cheapest shit they can get, and right now that happens to be from China.

[ownoiz]

Why do they want us to eat food from China? Can't they manipulate the food in our own countries?

I will comment on my observations in regards to the Australian situation, (which may apply elsewhere)...

Well yes they can manipulate it, but they would need to control it from the primary stage, and they (Woolworths/Coles - TPTB) dont at the moment. If they shake food producers out and set up their own operations, then yes. And they are trying...The pushing of the Woolworths 'home brand' is one angle, eliminates other independant packagers. The MDB crisis is another.

Buying 'home brands' is actually worse for us...if we stop demanding diversity, then other brands and labels, many of which arent owned by elite bankers, will wither away and eventually vanish, leaving the big supermarkets with a monopoly.

Woolworths major shareholders include JP morgan chase (rockefeller/rothschild and other elite banker links)

Ok i believe in some cases in OZ, what motleyhoo said. Well said BTW.

But, there are numerous circumstances, where Australia can produce food as cheaply as China...

While the Chinese peasant looks after a few acres at a time, as he whips his Buffalo thats pulling his one tyne plow, we have some large efficient food producing set ups here in Australia, with good economies of scale, largely due to mechanisation.

The use of machine harvesters and mechanisation in general means lots of food produced, hundreds if not thousands of acres, often with only one, two or three owner-operators and/or employees. This applies to fruit and nut crops and large scale vegetable production when coupled with large sized centre pivot irrigation setups.

Same goes for meat production, we can crank out beef because of the land we have, and plenty of rain in the north.

Same goes for fish.

The problem with that for TPTB is, some food producers have elevated to a financial status which, if some of them team together, begins to threaten TPTB. They would much prefer to spread the money around and give it to peasants, who can never get together and threaten the empire.

I have seen food producers - high net worth individuals, specifically targeted.

This is why supermarkets will often bypass Aussie produce for imports, like the Murray River citrus mentioned in this thread being fed to pigs or mulched because supermarkets wont buy it at any price.

And dont forget that politicians, well they are just people too, most come from working class background, and are more than happy to oblige and hate on those who can make as much money or more than them, and get off on smacking them down a notch.

The Chinese peasant is never a threat. They are conditioned to not want much, they are used to communism.
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[lauram]

There was a fad product that was all the rage here in the US a few years ago. It was these sleeping cat stuffed animals that looked real. It turns out that the reason that they look real is because they really are real stuffed cats that have been placed in cute sleeping poses. They sold millions of those things and I don't have to tell you what that means. It is disgusting, but people in our materialistic society will buy anything if they think the rest of the herd is buying it.

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I saw these for sale before Xmas in Southampton, I thought they looked really cute but very eerie. There was something about them that creeped me out, now I know what it was. That's just sick!

[hawk]

Welcome to the world of plastic chinese food.

[ritchs]

Because it's grown, picked, and processed by virtual slaves who are lucky to make a buck a day, and so they can buy food that doesn't have to conform to expensive domestic safety and environmental guidelines. Now ask yourself why the savings are not passed to you, and then ask yourself what are they doing with all of that extra profit.

In other words, they don't want you eating food from China specifically. They just want to sell you the cheapest shit they can get, and right now that happens to be from China.

Motleyhoo has hit the nail squarely on the head here. In addition to maximizing their illuminist profits at the expense of the Chinese, they get to bankrupt the economies of the West . The mid east is part of the bankrupting scenario, and it keeps all the heathiest youth that can wage a fight, occupied in an neverending war. Everything is now a lie so incredible, that no one can possibly believe it. Its that 'far fetched', so the average sheep cannot even see it, less believe it.

Remember their modus operandi : Controlled Demolition

[ownoiz]

In addition to maximizing their illuminist profits at the expense of the Chinese, they get to bankrupt the economies of the West .

Remember their modus operandi : Controlled Demolition

I have heard the theory, that the elite leaders, Chinese included, are all in on a little experiment, to see which system works best for them...capitalism or socialism or communism.

Maybe communism won the day, and will now be implemented gradually.

I wonder if they had a wager going and how much it was.

Just a theory.
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[indigo28]

Ah! This makes me realize how spoiled we have been in the Western world. The people of CHina who slave away in the corporations factories go without food for days at a time and we are scared? The point is not to be scared. In my humble opinion, I think we all need to focus on the international Illuminati corporations being allowed to pollute the water and air in other countries, especially China. Remember that air "circulates" around the world. <cough>

[astrochicken]

Recipe:
Makes 12 - 16 nuggets (bigger than the purchased ones, so feeds 4 easily).

2 skinned chicken breast fillets
aprox 285 ml plain, natural yogurt
1 or 2 tsp of lemon juice
150g cheesy saltines (eg. Ritz Crackers)
vegetable oil

Put the fillets individually into a freezer bag, and flatten by bashing it with a rolling pin until the chicken's quite thin. Remove from bag & cut into aprox. 8 goujons per fillet.

Tip these, along with the yogurt & lemon juice into a container & seal, then leave it in the fridge to marinate for anything from 6 hours to 2 days.

To cook, heat a little oil in a none-stick frying pan. Tip the crackers into a freezer bag, tie the end of the bag up, and bash them, then roll with a rolling pin to make fine crumbs.

Tip the crumbs into a wide, shallow dish, shake excess marinade off the nuggets and dip them in the crumbs, pressing, to coat them well.

Cook for 2 or 3 minutes per side, until godlen brown, & drain excess oil on kitchen paper.


My two (seven and five) loved them.
Thanks for the recipe Gilly.

:)

[gilly]

My two (seven and five) loved them.
Thanks for the recipe Gilly.

:)

Cool, I'm glad! :)

[gilly]

I've unstuck (unstickied?) this now, as nobody's posted for a couple of days.

[romas]

Chinese have been caught counterfeighting everything from clothing to food and even pharmaceuticals, now I couldn't give a flying eff if Gucci will lose couple million in sales, but when it comes to food and medicine, I think China is ought to get a trade embargo, however that's unlikely to happen. Financial Capitalism has found it's own demise, greed will literally kill itself now.


National Geographic llicit The Dark Trade (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=National+Geographic+llicit+The+Dark+ Trade&emb=0#)

The Fake Trade (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+Fake+Trade&emb=0#)


It's supposedly cheaper to counterfeight eggs from toxic industrial waste then hold hens, it's been documented.

[ownoiz]

It's supposedly cheaper to counterfeight eggs from toxic industrial waste then hold hens, it's been documented.

That sounds like the 'eggs' they use at Burger King, or Hungry Jacks as its known in Australia.
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[ritchs]

Ah! This makes me realize how spoiled we have been in the Western world. The people of CHina who slave away in the corporations factories go without food for days at a time and we are scared? The point is not to be scared. In my humble opinion, I think we all need to focus on the international Illuminati corporations being allowed to pollute the water and air in other countries, especially China. Remember that air "circulates" around the world. <cough>


yes, we are spoiled but that is quickly going south. The economy is expected to collapse while many americans are slaving away for what they have with both parents working 2-3 jobs between them!

People will flinch in a stupefying, uncomprehending, dumbstruck, jackass awe at the whole thing when it happens. They will be like zombies in the 'night of the living dead' like the germans were in 1945 when the rape and pillage arrived from the east. Many will cease to function. Many will take advantange of their countrymen during the chaos like predators. Others will unite against TBTB. It will be a coliseum-like spectacle not seen since the days of Rome.

Sorry if it seems like fear mongering, but we need to take a very hard look at it all and not go to extremes by neither panicking or going into denial. We need to read survival threads and get prepared, its not to late to get ready to hunker down,

After we get prepared we need to pray and get right with God and sit tight.

God deliver us from these forces of darkness.