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clive w
13-05-2009, 03:08 AM
...on interviews and on his lectures?

When Iīm reading "Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion" I realise that there are many many very important things wich Dave doesnīt talk about in the public. Especially that the Matrix is a prison for the consciousness, even the other dimensions... and that society is fractured for this... milking the energy... the red-dress programs are important, too, I think... the book is much more filled with the more important things than the lectures and interviews... thatīs sad. Very much info about the matrix is in the book...

Is the stuff too hard for the public???

Will he reveill the harder stuff step by step???

Btw: Sorry for my bad english.

I would say the book got the double power.

I love the book.

Fuckin hit in the face.

robindean
13-05-2009, 03:37 AM
I think he just doesn't have time, so he just covers the most important points and moves on.

synergy777
13-05-2009, 12:56 PM
no one has ever revealed the real truth in this modern age.

everybody recycles old stuff and rebrands it into their own style.

if someone actually knew the truth they would declare it publicly in a clear and concise fashion.

everybody hides the fact they don;t know the truth by utilising flowery language, and feel good quotes.

i'm afraid all we have is conjecture.

the elite know the truth, and thus thats why they hide it from us.

as information is power, and the truth gives them the power to stay in control.

clive w
13-05-2009, 10:39 PM
I think he just doesn't have time, so he just covers the most important points and moves on.

I think that itīs very important that the matrix is a prison for the consciousness... and that itīs like a free energy-machine, that itīs milking consciousness and needs fear n stuff... that we are troubled in a timeloop... that "learning" and "evolution" are illusions to hold us into the matrix...
This are schocking and very important things...

mane
14-05-2009, 06:58 AM
no one has ever revealed the real truth in this modern age.

everybody recycles old stuff and rebrands it into their own style.

if someone actually knew the truth they would declare it publicly in a clear and concise fashion.

everybody hides the fact they don;t know the truth by utilising flowery language, and feel good quotes.

i'm afraid all we have is conjecture.

the elite know the truth, and thus thats why they hide it from us.

as information is power, and the truth gives them the power to stay in control.

That's a very limiting perspective. Did you come up with it on your own? But of course, in all sensibility, nothing is original. Would it not be arrogant to disregard the thoughts of the one's before us? And who's to say something is true or false?

Consider the notion that the truth is within.
Suppose, the "elites" power arises from the collective individual's consignment of responsibility as to such.

robindean
14-05-2009, 08:56 AM
Consider the notion that the truth is within..

I love it :)

j35p3r4d0
16-05-2009, 10:14 AM
"the elite know the truth"

Correct, and speaking on behalf of the higher echelons of 8th circuit active humanity for you there, Clive, It's because material automatons don't like being told they're not exercising the full extents of Choice, because it happens to be extremely patronising to those adjusted fully to an incomplete view of reality.

I say that without a bastardised sense of entitlement or superiority, it's all factors and waveforms, friend.

David Icke uses, in the most effective way he can, his own ability to call people to objectively and positively question their reality, in the true aim of eventual positive actualisation by the individual, which is something that can only be claimed individually, hence why you don't go about playing reptile cannibal on everyday people, because then you just push people away, and you cant do that and gain true support.

Honour through virtue of right action, I Believe.

As knowledge is power, and here we sit on the internet, I suggest you take it fully seriously that you are able to gather information totally irrespective of the time-constraints of the progression of viewpoint matters. If you take that seriously, you wont take long to begin manifesting personally as the Higher echelons of informational acuity and awareness avalable to all within the mind state of humanity.

You need to take the progression of conciousness as the progression of your soul, your being, and your mind, in total. No less will suffice, hence why it is imperative that you take this process, and the process of personal discovery, wholly as your own, or else all point would be lost. This is where David Icke comes from.

steevo
16-05-2009, 10:22 AM
no one has ever revealed the real truth in this modern age.

everybody recycles old stuff and rebrands it into their own style.

if someone actually knew the truth they would declare it publicly in a clear and concise fashion.

everybody hides the fact they don;t know the truth by utilising flowery language, and feel good quotes.

i'm afraid all we have is conjecture.

the elite know the truth, and thus thats why they hide it from us.

as information is power, and the truth gives them the power to stay in control.

Yes, knowledge is power, and lack of knowledge means that we have no power. That's why they keep everything secret from us. The stuff that Icke HAS told in his lectures, is enpowering, and if everyone knows this stuff then they have no power over us at all, although they do have the weapons of mass destruction, but that still doesnt mean that they can take control of us any more.

j35p3r4d0
16-05-2009, 10:28 AM
exactly, its about positive change and realisation, you don't need to scare people with ominous threats, or we would all be paralysed by it.

On the same token, you also don't need to make the whole thing overly complex, the most direct path to higher conciousness is through "equalised unity", the true middle path of your soul is to its highest form, in this lifetime, or the next, or the countless preceding it. No need to go to extremes, just accept the action, all is synchronised.

You just gotta accept that which makes you immune to negativity, or at least able to find your way out of it if it has you in a grip.

j35p3r4d0
16-05-2009, 10:31 AM
also the only reason you need to use 'flowery" language is to find a hopefully direct path through the mountains of miss-matched association complex that has the world in its vice.

You need to work on your own understanding first, no one can decipher your reality for you, because it is by nature as direct subjective as it is universally cohesive.

fr0sty
19-05-2009, 01:20 PM
no one has ever revealed the real truth in this modern age.

everybody recycles old stuff and rebrands it into their own style.

if someone actually knew the truth they would declare it publicly in a clear and concise fashion.



everybody tell to everybody in the way he learned the "old stuff"


I think that itīs very important that the matrix is a prison for the consciousness... and that itīs like a free energy-machine, that itīs milking consciousness and needs fear n stuff... that we are troubled in a timeloop... that "learning" and "evolution" are illusions to hold us into the matrix...
This are schocking and very important things...

And how big is this matrix prison for the consciousness? No,if you thinking in that way that is illusion :D

kidsarocker
19-05-2009, 02:08 PM
"the elite know the truth"

Correct, and speaking on behalf of the higher echelons of 8th circuit active humanity for you there, Clive, It's because material automatons don't like being told they're not exercising the full extents of Choice, because it happens to be extremely patronising to those adjusted fully to an incomplete view of reality.

I say that without a bastardised sense of entitlement or superiority, it's all factors and waveforms, friend.

David Icke uses, in the most effective way he can, his own ability to call people to objectively and positively question their reality, in the true aim of eventual positive actualisation by the individual, which is something that can only be claimed individually, hence why you don't go about playing reptile cannibal on everyday people, because then you just push people away, and you cant do that and gain true support.

Honour through virtue of right action, I Believe.

As knowledge is power, and here we sit on the internet, I suggest you take it fully seriously that you are able to gather information totally irrespective of the time-constraints of the progression of viewpoint matters. If you take that seriously, you wont take long to begin manifesting personally as the Higher echelons of informational acuity and awareness avalable to all within the mind state of humanity.

You need to take the progression of conciousness as the progression of your soul, your being, and your mind, in total. No less will suffice, hence why it is imperative that you take this process, and the process of personal discovery, wholly as your own, or else all point would be lost. This is where David Icke comes from.

TH eInternet is the last place for researching with so many dis-information and half truths, to research and cross reference is to get off your butt from that computer screen and goo looking for it yourself

branjo
27-05-2009, 09:43 PM
Because "Dave" is as much full of "stuff" as anyone else.

mane
28-05-2009, 12:35 AM
As knowledge is power, and here we sit on the internet, I suggest you take it fully seriously that you are able to gather information totally irrespective of the time-constraints of the progression of viewpoint matters. If you take that seriously, you wont take long to begin manifesting personally as the Higher echelons of informational acuity and awareness avalable to all within the mind state of humanity.

You need to take the progression of conciousness as the progression of your soul, your being, and your mind, in total. No less will suffice, hence why it is imperative that you take this process, and the process of personal discovery, wholly as your own, or else all point would be lost. This is where David Icke comes from.

Indeed.

gushen
30-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Nature is mathematical, and as such it can be deciphered. Consciousness, of course, cannot be deciphered. It just is. Now, whether someone understands what has been deciphered or not is a different problem.

The truth is EVERYWHERE. The problem is that it is FRAGMENTED, and you have to join the pieces. Also, I cannot see how a single person can be more than his/her own style if he/she is not some kind of super human that can communicate in all languages and styles.

The fact is that acquiring the truth requires superhuman energy, hence the "ascended master" myths. indeed, those who are closer to the truth than others, both in theory and practice, have much more internal energy, and as such they end becoming too 'different' from the masses in terms of vibration and consciousness. it comes to a point that your mere presence is a shock to most people, and also to a point that you expand beyond the physical dimensions, thus disappearing from the limited senses of other beings.

In practice, the real truth is always 'beyond', but this does not mean that it cannot be achieved as theoretical knowledge. The rest is just experience.

gushen
30-05-2009, 10:52 PM
"the elite know the truth"


You need to take the progression of conciousness as the progression of your soul, your being, and your mind, in total. No less will suffice, hence why it is imperative that you take this process, and the process of personal discovery, wholly as your own, or else all point would be lost. This is where David Icke comes from.

one big piece of the Truth right there....

the progression toward the truth is not separate from who you are and what you do. it's an internal journey and even if someone could tell you the whole truth, it would be only because you were ready, and because you can connect to that person, because trust me: the power of ignorance is equally as powerful as the power of knowledge. Ignorance is a kind of amnesia, a forgetfulness of your spiritual origins for very specific reasons. You just can't enlighten a person about the "illusion of reality" if he/she is not currently interested in it, for her own good.

All indirect and external representations of the Truth are incomplete because the person needs to internalize the experience of what is true. It's an inner knowledge that no one can force you to attain..

dreamweaver
30-05-2009, 10:59 PM
...on interviews and on his lectures?

When Iīm reading "Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion" I realise that there are many many very important things wich Dave doesnīt talk about in the public. Especially that the Matrix is a prison for the consciousness, even the other dimensions... and that society is fractured for this... milking the energy... the red-dress programs are important, too, I think... the book is much more filled with the more important things than the lectures and interviews... thatīs sad. Very much info about the matrix is in the book...

He does go into it in quite some detail in the Brixton Academy lecture DVDs that I've seen.