Hijacked Religion

[asahi]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....

[miracles]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....

Good question. I think you've pretty much nailed it mate. Crocodile Dundee is the saviour of mankind. By the way, the longer you end up here the less intelligent and enlightened you become, so right now your way ahead of the game.

[asahi]

Thanks for the reply. Anyone else have any elaborations? I was also a tad confused why Icke is against channellers etc when from what I have heard, most of his works involve an alleigence between some spirit entities, plus a Shamanic experience he had on ayahuasca (sounds like a kind of shamianic journey meeting of female deity type thing). cheers.

[dedicate]

Icke said in a recent newsletter -- and I paraphrase -- "all scriputre was written by the Devil".

Two explantions for him saying these type of things. 1)-- at a young age, he developed a prejudice against religion. 2) He is a disinformant.

It's hard to believe his is an agent of the illuminati. But it is equelly hard to believe that a person as intelligent as he is would present these simple theories to explain a complex subject. Maybe he is not as intelligent in matters of philosophy and invention as we would hope.

[asahi]

Strange that he goes so hard on religion after linking science, extradimentionality, and loads of other concepts in a really lively, interesting way. I guess he mirrors many peoples bad experiences with organized religion and even the new age.

[asahi]

So does anyone thinks he goes too far in his dismissal of religion? I know more than most having lived with very fervant Christians that the dogma can reach crazy levels. But if one could pick wisely from the religious smorgasboard maybe they would get something??

[dedicate]

A lot of Icke's theories are incorrect -- and I'm surprised that he even entertains some of them. For example,, the Hundreth Monkey Theory?.. This can not be applied to humans. Maybe a critical mass will be needed to really turn things around, but to think all humanity will learn when a majority learn is just not correct.

But Icke,, interesting to listen to no matter what he may be talking about.

[asahi]

The hundrenth monkey thing is not so different from various other theories in the spiritual domain. A kind of transmission/ learning through vibration etc. Its certainly not impossible.

[uncia]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....
From wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke)

"In Tales From The Time Loop and other works, Icke states that most organised religions, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts. In a similar vein, Icke believes racial and ethnic divisions are an illusion promoted by the reptilians, and that racism fuels the Illuminati agenda."
It seems therefore that he does not take organized religion too seriously. May be that is the cop-out, to distinguish the big denominations from real religion. In many ways I can't blame him: hypocrisy is rife in the big denominations, and one could insist upon reptilians being behind it. However I do not think his views on religion are helpful in trying to understand the problems within them. His views are an unnecessary complexity to what is really a simple subject: people misusing religion, and the law of God, to promote their own political and financial interests.

[miracles]

Strange that he goes so hard on religion after linking science, extradimentionality, and loads of other concepts in a really lively, interesting way. I guess he mirrors many peoples bad experiences with organized religion and even the new age.

He cant go stating the devil wrote scripture if he doesnt believe in religion for a start, can he?

[miracles]

So does anyone thinks he goes too far in his dismissal of religion? I know more than most having lived with very fervant Christians that the dogma can reach crazy levels. But if one could pick wisely from the religious smorgasboard maybe they would get something??

Frankly, anyone who dismisses all religion and states that he is the awakend font of all knowldege is just another bum who thinks he has the truth and everyone else is wrong, just like me really. The thing is because of his huge following he has the potential to become a cult leader against his will. Which I think is probably freaking him out a bit.

Or, he is just an excellent Science Fiction writer and this is marvelous way for him to sell books and travel the world and it is a four dimensional way for fans to get involved IE instead of just having a jolley good read of a science fiction book, they actually get to live it as a world view aswell. Bonus! And all this for $14.95. Now they have a reason to hate Christ and the bible, where as before they couldn't figure out way they hated it.

[uncia]

I get the impression that whilst Icke is content to address "organized religion" in an offhand way, he is hesitant to address religion itself. Perhaps that is where he needs to become more receptive, because he does not convince anyone of religious conviction with his far out theories. Yet most religions today apart from Christianity are indeed conspiracies against the truth, and even within Christianity there is scope for identifying and outing the conspiracists against the truth.

[phildee3]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....



The use of "/" in text like this usually means "also."
Are you saying that David's position is that religion is created and hijacked by reppies?
Why would they hijack their own creation?

[manxboz]

The use of "/" in text like this usually means "also."
Are you saying that David's position is that religion is created and hijacked by reppies?
Why would they hijack their own creation?

I don't think he ment it that way, he ment the they were either created or hijacked by reppies.

[phildee3]

I don't think he ment it that way, he ment the they were either created or hijacked by reppies.



So were some religions created and some hijacked,
or were all of them one or the other?

[manxboz]

Now that i don't know.

[kidsarocker]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....

It's amazing that Icke states that Religion was created by the Illuminati to control us, If this is so then why is the Occult/Satanic ritual practiced by the freemasons and the Illuminati? Surely if their God is Satan/Lucifer/Horus then Satans polarity God exists, if this is so, then surely monotheistic religions have been infiltrated and that he NWO is being prepared for the AntiChrist/Dajjal.

[phildee3]

Icke states that Religion was created by the Illuminati to control us,



Do you have any references (just one good one will do)?

Does he also state anywhere that any religion was hijacked, rather than created, by the illuminati?

[kidsarocker]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....

Maybe these two vids will give you a better understanding

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1038172125692

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Arrivals/40497487822?v=app_2392950137&viewas=0#/video/video.php?v=1038175565778

[kidsarocker]

Do you have any references (just one good one will do)?

His Book The Biggest Secret

Does he also state anywhere that any religion was hijacked, rather than created, by the illuminati?

Not that I have come across, and I have watched many of his lectures and read most of his books

[bobbydiva]

I'm pretty sure he says in most of his talks that as the bloodlines developed as did their controlling religions. I think its fair to say religion by today's standards is just a illuminati construct to keep people fightng and close minded.

[kidsarocker]

I was just wondering if someone could clarify for me David Icked view on religion. From what I have read it seems it runs like this-Christianity-created by/hijacked by reptilians, New age-created by/hijacked by reptilians, every other belief system created by/ hijacked by reptilians. Is this about right? Many apologoies for the apparently newbish and simplistic nature of this question but in the style of DI if you cant explain it to a 7 year old.....

If religion was created by these reptiles then why would they warn us about them? Think about it

[clachan]

If religion was created by these reptiles then why would they warn us about them? Think about it

I agree,for example in Genesis,if the Anunnaki are responsible for creating the bible then why on earth tell us that the enermy of man and God is a reptillian.

Surely thats a daft thing to tell us,would it make more sense to create the devil in the form of a fox or wolf or anything but a reptile ?

It does not make any sense.

Let us not loose sight of the fact that DI first became notorious when he told the world he was the son of God.

Its a giant leap from son of God to no God.
I wonder what his loyal followers would say if he made another such leap ?

However,I like DI,he has made many many people at least ask the questions which is a good thing.

To answer the original question,yes Jesus Christ has been hyjacked by evil men who have used him for their own wicked reasons.

[uncia]

I agree,for example in Genesis,if the Anunnaki are responsible for creating the bible then why on earth tell us that the enermy of man and God is a reptillian.

Surely thats a daft thing to tell us,would it make more sense to create the devil in the form of a fox or wolf or anything but a reptile ?

It does not make any sense.

Let us not loose sight of the fact that DI first became notorious when he told the world he was the son of God.

Its a giant leap from son of God to no God.

I disagree. One lie begets another. To maintain untruthfully that one "came from God" is not really much different to maintaining untruthfully that "there is no God" or that all religion is of Satan.

David Shayler of notorious repute quickly went from being Son of God to being Messianic Anti-Zionist Transvestite, helped along the way by a lot of drug abuse.

It's dangerous to speak lies in the name of God. It's hard to choose the truth after renouncing it. The bible makes it clear that lying about God in the name of God is an almost unforgiveable sin (cf Anais & Saphira).

It could however be said that Christians are sons of God by adoption, but not the Son of God; and certainly not the "Messiah".

[nicolaj]

I disagree. One lie begets another. To maintain untruthfully that one "came from God" is not really much different to maintaining untruthfully that "there is no God" or that all religion is of Satan.

David Shayler of notorious repute quickly went from being Son of God to being Messianic Anti-Zionist Transvestite, helped along the way by a lot of drug abuse.

It's dangerous to speak lies in the name of God. It's hard to choose the truth after renouncing it. The bible makes it clear that lying about God in the name of God is an almost unforgiveable sin (cf Anais & Saphira).

It could however be said that Christians are sons of God by adoption, but not the Son of God; and certainly not the "Messiah".


Thats how I understand it..