Summa Contra Christos (Summary against Christ).

[luciferhorus]

Summa Contra Christos (Summary against Christ)....and other outrageous Blasphemies

Lucifer.
Aon of Light 2009
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Salvation from 'Sin' through the sacrifice of an innocent and ritual cannibalism.



In Christianity one of the three gods decided to have one of his fellow dieties incarnated in order that he could be brutally tortured to death at the request of the religious establishment (who placed a reward on him). In Christianity, Trinitarianism is essentially monotheistic (one god) polytheism (many gods); there are three gods but only one god; those seeking to understand polytheistic monotheism are advised to stay away from philosophical analysis and logic.


Having brutally tortured and murdered this Israelite Communist martyr, cultists were later encouraged to engage in ritual cannibalism where gorging on his flesh and blood was considered a sacrament (sacre mentis / sacred mind).


How it is that by practicing similar rites to the Sun cultists (sinners) of Babylon and the ancient world that one becomes free of Sun cultism (belief in the sacrifice of and innocent and ritual cannibalism), is not quite clear to me; however at least the Christians are mostly honest enough to admit that they are 'sinners (i.e., they are evil).


Genocide

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Above: militant Catholic anti-Communist and mass murderer general Augusto Pinochet with fellow anti-Communist, the former Pope Jon Paul.

If one considers the 'sacred mind' of the tyrant Pinochet in Chile, for example, a practicing Catholic who still receives Mass / Communion, etc, rather than just brutally torturing one Communist, he managed to arrest and torture 30,000 of them, however he probably did not cannibalise them.

I don't mind sharing my body with others in erotic communion (Fr. communare: to share), but if they tortured me and cannibalised me, I would be rather pissed off, and I would not consider a voluntary 'sharing' of my flesh and blood.


Christianity seems to be a religion for sadists, masochists and practicioners of genocide. That is it's history and that is it's morality.


It is apparently meaningful for Christians to torture and murder Communists; the American Christian state terrorists have a long history of this; they seem to consider this sacramental; that is what the sacred mind of the Christian Father God did after all to his son, but it does not apparently save Christian cultists from 'sin (evil)' since they apparently still believe themselves to be sinners.


http://liberalslikechrist.org/NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg


On the Christian God Jesus.

Firstly we have to understand that from a Christian point of view that Jesus is God; unchanging (the same yesterday, today and tomorrow), omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing) and eternal; the Judge of the living and the dead (the ancestral spirits).

1: The bastard.

Christians have for long argued that Jesus was a bastard (his mother and father were not married). To dispute this is blasphemy.

I am not a bastard, so I can judge the matter personally from a distance. I also take the position, along with most feminists and Anarchists, that marriage is a form of legalised prostitution and thus whether a child's parents are married or not is irrelevant to me.

2: Christ: The Mother-Impregnator.

Since Jesus is God to the Christians, and Christians have long argued that God (i.e., Jesus) impregnated his mother. The term 'mother-impregnator can be used as a non-factual derogatory term by children in a playground (an ‘ad hominem’ / derogatory insult / attack), but in respect of Christian Theology, Jesus was an actual motherimpregnator. To dispute this is blasphemy.

3: The paederast.

There are two ways to look at this theologically.

Let us suppose hypothetically (what if?) that God (Jesus) impregnated Mary, which according to the Christians is an infallible truth. To dispute this is blasphemy. Let us further suppose hypothetically that Jesus was (as the Christians argue), ‘fully human and fully divine (godlike).'

A: in the first case Jesus (God) as a human, having not been born yet, was clearly prepubescent and legally under the age of consent, even in Scandinavia or India, or whatever.

This is clearly a pederastic relationship between an older women and a younger prepubescent male.

B: In the second case, if we take the youngest age of God (Jesus) alleged by the infamous Christian priest ‘Usher’ at approximately 6000 years old (Usher alleged that the universe was created in 4004 BC) then Jesus (God) would have been 6000 years old when he had sex his mother; this is also clearly a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger woman.

Since Jesus was allegedly both fully human and fully divine, to dispute either proposition is blasphemy.
Either way a pederastic relationship seems to have occurred between the Christian God (Jesus) and his mother.

The Uncreated Creator.

If God (Jesus) is uncreated, why did that bastard, paedophile, mother-impregnator need to have sex his mother in order to be created as a mortal?

I must conclude that the Christian God is a mother-impregnating bastard pederast (as the Christian theologians claim); this may go some way to explaining why the Christian armies of the Anglo-American state terrorists are torturing, murdering and raping their way through my world, and why the Catholic church is full of paedophiles who abuse innocents. If you have a bastard mother-impregnating paedophile of a God, then surely the devotees of this God should want to be like him?

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Christians are born 'evil'

Christians believe that they are born evil (i.e., born in sin),’ that their children are born evil (sinful), and that even as Christians they continue to be evil (to be sinners) and that no matter how evil they are, that Jesus will forgive them. Only they who are totally evil themselves would forgive all evil; we whose souls are pure do not think that way; we seek judgement and retribution.

Christians boast of their evil.

Christians commonly declare and even boast ‘I am a sinner (i.e., I am evil); this may explain why many Christians support armchair genocidal Capitalist imperialists and mass murderers like George Bush, Obama and Elizabeth Windsor. To openly declare themselves to be evil and to be loved by a god who forgives their evil seems to me to be a definition of evil itself.

God is evil.

The Christian God is clearly evil, why else would he love evil people, give birth to children who are born evil, and why would he offer salvation to evil people (sinners) and then abandon all the masses of innocents (non-Christians) to hell (where allegedly the Capitalists and religious hypocrites are confined together)?

The Christian state terrorists seem to believe that they can torture, murder, rape and bomb their way through the world in order to expand Capitalist revolution (the revolution of the rich and the religious hypocrites); they readily forgive each other for acts of genocide, infanticide and mass murder, and yet they do not show such mercy to their enemies and their children (they generally bomb them with depleted uranium).

The Christian God clearly does reward and love sinners (i.e., they who are evil) and consigns his non-Christian enemies to bombing and economic slavery; this God is clearly a common definition of ‘evil;’ why else would he love evil people (sinners / Christians) and hate the non-sinners (we who are pure and sinless)?

The goodness of godless Communism.

Communists for example, reject the idea that they are born evil or that their children are born evil; Communism is militant ideology and thus Communists generally do not forgive evil people (the Capitalists and religious hypocrites) but devote their lives to creating the conditions for the future eradication of such vermin.

Perhaps it is because the Communists are such ‘good (non-sinful)’ people that the Christians (the sinners) and their evil God hate us so much. Further Christians do not have to give up evil (Capitalism and religious hypocrisy, for example); on the contrary they can devote their lives to Capitalism and religious hypocrisy (i.e., evil), since they believe that they can be forgiven of such evil; whereas with Communists for example, they tend to devote their lives to being good (anti-Capitalist, anti-religionist) people since they tend to believe that Capitalism and religious hypocrisy (i.e., evil) are not forgivable, unless of course one totally repents of all forms of organised religion, converts to anti-Capitalism and lives a life of penance seeking the eradication of Christian Capitalist state terrorism.

The 1000 Year agricultural revolution. Swords to ploughshares. Judgement Day
The idea of a separation of the wheat (the anti-Capitalists) and the chaff (the Capitalists) and the global holocaust (Final Judgement ) of the Capitalists, while a biblical concept endorsed by Jesus, is hardly a Christian belief; on the contrary the Christians appear to believe that the Capitalists and religious hypocrites (the sinners) will be saved and that all the innocent people and the anti-Capitalists (i.e., the good people) will be condemned to Hell; this view of course is not found in the teachings of Jesus, on the contrary, but it is never the less a Christian belief.

The idea of an apocalyptic Final Revolution against the Capitalists and religious hypocrites and of then feeding the world, creating economic heaven on earth and a world of total economic equality is a concept outlined in the Book of Revelation, but in today’s world it is also the Communist agenda; thus it is quite understandable that the Christians state terrorists (the sinners) and their evil god of Capital would hate the Communists and have a long history of torturing and murdering them.

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Heresy and blasphemy

It is Christian blasphemy and heresy if you dispute that God (Jesus) impregnated his mother (Mary), and that he forgives the Capitalists and Religious hypocrites (the Christians); the penalty for disputing this infallible truth is allegedly abandonment to hell (Where allegedly the poor, the Communists, the gays and the unsaved go), and your soul is allegedly my father’s for all eternity, but as long as you believe that God is an evil mother-impregnating, bastard perderast who demands the blood of Communists (such as his son Jesus), that is the orthodox Christian teaching, and you get to go to Christian heaven with George Bush, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Fallwell, Pinochet, the Pope, Elizabeth Windsor, the torturers of the Inquisition and the myriads of Capitalists and religious hypocrites (add yourselves to this list oh slaves of the Christian god).

Woe to Christendom

Love and Light

Lucifer
Lux e tenebris.
Fire, plague and poisoned waters.
The 1000 year revolution of Light
For Anarcho-Communism.
No mercy on they who deserve none.

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[zero1]

Only reading this now, it is an excellent piece, Lucifer, from a clearly skilled essayist.

I've commented on here from time to time about the vampire cannibalism of the "Eucharistic Mysteries" of the Roman Catholic Church (wherein the priests drink the blood of the god and eat his flesh, symbolically), and had a few views to offer about Trinitarianism and the theological basis for the hypostasis of man and god (in the form of Jesus Christ). But once seen for what it is, the inclination to talk about Christianity seriously lessens in me - I just regard it as an amusing black joke now really, an unholy divine comedy.

As you well know, the priests and religious hypocrites put the man Jesus Christ on a pedestal and offer him up for public worship, but this mythographised figure is a parody of the man who once lived upon whom the story is based, in in actual fact they (priests & religious hypocrites) hate and despise everything that man represented (his virulent anti-capitalism, his spiritual mastery, his revolutionary anarchic nature).

Supremely focused on worldly power, money and exploitation, they dare to claim that "God so loved the world he gave His only Son for its salvation", then tell you worldliness is of the Devil (ie bad, legitimizing Capitalist sin).

Of course, the Christian schemata (that is, the tenants of its religious hypocrisy) would be readily recognized as absurd and evil and stupid were it not for the incorporation of the Goddess figure - If "the Father" is Zeus in a non-mystical sense, and Je-sus (hey-zoos) the Son of Zeus, then Mary as Pallas-Athene (originally a Libyan war-goddess reborn from Zeus' head in myths that cover the patriarchal revolution circa 3500-1000BCE) gives it the emotional resonance to blind the faithful (evil sinners) to its logical and philosophical shortcomings.

I much prefer the militant, black, lesbian, communist Jew god - She is far more impressive than anything the Hellenic Christians could have come up with.

Look forward to more of your postings.

LL

Z1

[uncia]

[B]3: The paederast.

There are two ways to look at this theologically.

Let us suppose hypothetically (what if?) that God (Jesus) impregnated Mary, which according to the Christians is an infallible truth. To dispute this is blasphemy. Let us further suppose hypothetically that Jesus was (as the Christians argue), ‘fully human and fully divine (godlike).'

A: in the first case Jesus (God) as a human, having not been born yet, was clearly prepubescent and legally under the age of consent, even in Scandinavia or India, or whatever.

This is clearly a pederastic relationship between an older women and a younger prepubescent male.

B: In the second case, if we take the youngest age of God (Jesus) alleged by the infamous Christian priest ‘Usher’ at approximately 6000 years old (Usher alleged that the universe was created in 4004 BC) then Jesus (God) would have been 6000 years old when he had sex his mother; this is also clearly a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger woman.

Since Jesus was allegedly both fully human and fully divine, to dispute either proposition is blasphemy.
Either way a pederastic relationship seems to have occurred between the Christian God (Jesus) and his mother.

In the first case, Jesus, not yet being born, was incapable of having sex. In the second case, again Jesus was not born when Mary conceived, so sex was impossible.

Jesus was clearly not fully human before he was born.

Your rantings are that of a madman. Doubtless you will end up a lunatic.

[luciferhorus]

Only reading this now, it is an excellent piece, Lucifer, from a clearly skilled essayist.

I've commented on here from time to time about the vampire cannibalism of the "Eucharistic Mysteries" of the Roman Catholic Church (wherein the priests drink the blood of the god and eat his flesh, symbolically), and had a few views to offer about Trinitarianism and the theological basis for the hypostasis of man and god (in the form of Jesus Christ). But once seen for what it is, the inclination to talk about Christianity seriously lessens in me - I just regard it as an amusing black joke now really, an unholy divine comedy.



Yes Zero, I am also bored with debating with Chistians about their 'black joke' of a religion; I have been doing so almost since the beginnings of the Internet; similarly with Masonry I find it ridiculous, pompous and frankly it bores me; I suppose I do what I do in the hope that humanity will in time awaken from their religious hypnosis; I think that is Icke's motivation also, and the motivation of many other anti-Christian and anti-cultist propagandists; there will always be those who are hypnotised and innocent and who resist awakening and then there are the hypnotists who understand exactly what they are doing; but many are they who can be awoken.

It is just what I do; I suppose it is out of a sense of duty; though I think for the most part on the David Icke forum I am preaching to the already converted (dehyponotised), though there are a few exceptions.

I much prefer the militant, black, lesbian, communist Jew god - She is far more impressive than anything the Hellenic Christians could have come up with.

Yes, hail to the goddess,

Love to you Zero

Lux

[mephibosheth]

...those seeking to understand polytheistic monotheism are advised to stay away from philosophical analysis and logic.


hahaha...aint it the truth. :rolleyes:



Christians have for long argued that Jesus was a bastard (his mother and father were not married). To dispute this is blasphemy.

2: Christ: The Mother-Impregnator.

Since Jesus is God to the Christians, and Christians have long argued that God (i.e., Jesus) impregnated his mother. The term 'mother-impregnator can be used as a non-factual derogatory term by children in a playground (an ‘ad hominem’ / derogatory insult / attack), but in respect of Christian Theology, Jesus was an actual motherimpregnator. To dispute this is blasphemy.



LOL, a fine point on the matter. Illuminating the ludicrousity of the myth.

Right up there with the concept that Jesus (God) had a choice about whether to die on the cross or not (ie, follow through on his own grand plan established before the world was created).

8)

[uncia]

hahaha...aint it the truth. :rolleyes:




LOL, a fine point on the matter. Illuminating the ludicrousity of the myth.

The ludicrousity of your myth is to pretend that flesh and spirit are indistinguishable. I think that when the time comes, you will find that physical death is not the end. Ha Ha!



Right up there with the concept that Jesus (God) had a choice about whether to die on the cross or not (ie, follow through on his own grand plan established before the world was created).
8)
He had no choice, because He is always is true to his word, yet he had to overcome the resistance of the weak flesh first to accomplish God's will - something that you guys are clearly incapable of.

[luciferhorus]

hahaha...aint it the truth. :rolleyes:




LOL, a fine point on the matter. Illuminating the ludicrousity of the myth.

Right up there with the concept that Jesus (God) had a choice about whether to die on the cross or not (ie, follow through on his own grand plan established before the world was created).

8)

http://www.adishakti.org/images/inquisition_1.jpg

On the Christian God Jesus, his Mother (God) and the Mother of God (Mary)

Yes brother, the allegedly omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing), omnipresent (present everywhere and within everything and person), unchanging (the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow) God so loved Her son (and bear in mind that since the Christians claim to be mono-theists, that the Son and the Mother are the same person) that She impregnated Her Mother (Mary; which begs the question of how Mary got to be God's mother if God is uncreated), and sent Her Son (Herself really) into the world to be attacked by the blood cultist religious establishment (of Her allegedly One true religion); Her son (herself) eventually being flagellated (skin removed), slowly tortured, murdered, and then 2000 years later salvation is sold in his name offering Capitalists (Jesus was an anti-Capitalist) entrance to Paradise by gorging on his flesh and drinking his blood.

http://zionism-israel.com/dic/inquisition.jpg

This is not what we would expect of a loving mother, but perhaps from an totally evil father.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lV1lV2tXZ9s/SYmKD1HIpxI/AAAAAAAAAgU/xHyZsOB6dB0/s400/i_drink_your_blood-i_eat_your_skin_poster2.jpg

Unchanging.

Since this God is alledgedly unchanging, the question is begged as to why today Christianity is the favourite religion of Capitalists and state terrorists, when 2000 years ago Jesus (God herself incarnated) was clearly an anti-Capitalist. Could it be that this unchanging God changed Her mind and decided to become a Capitalist and a religious hypocrite; an ex-Communist offering salvation to cannibal Capitalists who gorge on Her Holy flesh and drink Her holy blood?

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Omniscient and Omnipresent.

To cite just one example of many, it states in the Gospels that the Romans placed a sack of the head of Jesus, began striking him, and to mock him asked him to reveal the name of the person who was beating him. Jesus could not answer. Clearly an omniscient and omnipresent god would know the answer; Christians could be expected to argue that 'perhaps' Jesus (God Herself) was a masochist who refused to answer since he enjoyed being beaten, flagellated, and slowly tortured, etc; which incidentally is the fate that has befallen many Communists, Muslims and assorted enemies of Chrstian state terrorism.

http://www.all-creatures.org/hope/gw/inquisition_torture_002.jpg

Omnipotent.

If God is angry with this evil world She has created full of poverty, war, violence, slavery, sex slavery, torture and unspeakable evil, surely She could just snap her holy fingers and turn it into a Communist Paradise and grant the wished of Her Son (Herself)? However it appears that She either cannot or does not wish to eradicate evil; I tend to think that She cannot; thus we have to deal with the problem of evil ourselves by acts of will; and part of that problem of evil is the problem of Christianity, which is surely one of the most evil, genocidal, hypocritical religions in all of human history.

http://www.thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/___/torture/abu-ghraib-torture.jpe

It seems to me that if you have an ex-Communist Capitalist cannibal God who likes to torture her beloved Communst Son (who is one substance with Herself), that the consequence of this is that Her Christian children would think it quite normal to flaggelate and slowly torture and murder her other Communist and non-Christian children; it is after all the path to slavation according to the Christian devils.

http://www.burningcross.net/inquisition/missionaries/water-torture.jpg

Love and Light

Lucifer

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Comandante Lucifer

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Prince of the Angels, Lord of Lords, Master and Commander of the 72 Goetic demons, bearer of the Key of Solomon, etc., etc.

Ex offico (in the office of) Christos, Pontifex Maximus, Servus Servorum Dei, Judge of Judgement Day, Grand Commander on earth of the armies of Heaven and numerous other pompous titles.

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To everyone who hears my sacred dictates, if anyone adds to or subtracts from them, may they have added to them a multitude of plagues and lose their right the Tree of Life, and to the Holy City.

[miracles]

Yes Zero, I am also bored with debating with Chistians about their 'black joke' of a religion; I have been doing so almost since the beginnings of the Internet; similarly with Masonry I find it ridiculous, pompous and frankly it bores me; I suppose I do what I do in the hope that humanity will in time awaken from their religious hypnosis; I think that is Icke's motivation also, and the motivation of many other anti-Christian and anti-cultist propagandists; there will always be those who are hypnotised and innocent and who resist awakening and then there are the hypnotists who understand exactly what they are doing; but many are they who can be awoken.

It is just what I do; I suppose it is out of a sense of duty; though I think for the most part on the David Icke forum I am preaching to the already converted (dehyponotised), though there are a few exceptions.

I much prefer the militant, black, lesbian, communist Jew god - She is far more impressive than anything the Hellenic Christians could have come up with.

Yes, hail to the goddess,

Love to you Zero

Lux

A ha ha h ha ha. Your bored debating with Christians and yet you can't resist "attempting" to debunk it with counteless thread topic posts in religous forums since the begining of the internet?? I sprayed out my coffee over that follwed by a loud guffaawww. Yes what a fantastic essayist. Love to zero. Your on a mission from god and you dont even know it pal. :D

What do you say fellow evil Christians, let's sacrifice a goat and eat its flesh, drink it's blood and summon God to rid us of this scourge that is lucifer horus from the internet for all eternity? (and lucifer horus of his boredom) My place tomorrow at seven okay? Bring a plate!

[manxboz]

As is said in the Bible if this wasn't a true religion it would fazzle out. The Lord loves us and will continue to love us for many years to come even you luciferhorus, he does not hate you he only wishes for you to accept him as the one true God.

[synergy777]

i think luciferhorus has some good points. its important that we have all people of different beliefs here. by hearing and learning every angle of every issue, we increase our understanding. the fact is whatever your belief is, we are all the children of the creator, we all members of the human race.

freedom of speech is for everyone, frank and open debate is for everyone. i look forward to more posts from luciferhorus.

btw i do believe that jesus/existed, but i also take an objective view of religoius scripture/history/symbolism.

[mephibosheth]

The ludicrousity of your myth is to pretend that flesh and spirit are indistinguishable. I think that when the time comes, you will find that physical death is not the end. Ha Ha!


Who said it was? And what 'myth' of 'mine are you referring to, exactly...?



He had no choice, because He is always is true to his word, yet he had to overcome the resistance of the weak flesh first to accomplish God's will - something that you guys are clearly incapable of.

LOL. Let me get this straight. God, the almighty creator of everything, against whom there is no possible opposition nor power that can contain or thwart him or his will, had to 'overcome the resistance of the weak flesh' to accomplish HIS OWN WILL?

Man, you folks are a riot.

If it's your view that Jesus is not God then it's ok. But otherwise your position is untenable.

[mephibosheth]

As is said in the Bible if this wasn't a true religion it would fazzle out.

I guess Islam is a true religion then, since it continues to grow and grow and gow. And Buddhism, which after 2000 years+ is still going strong, no fazzling to be seen.

8)

[miracles]

i think luciferhorus has some good points. its important that we have all people of different beliefs here. by hearing and learning every angle of every issue, we increase our understanding. the fact is whatever your belief is, we are all the children of the creator, we all members of the human race.

freedom of speech is for everyone, frank and open debate is for everyone. i look forward to more posts from luciferhorus.

btw i do believe that jesus/existed, but i also take an objective view of religoius scripture/history/symbolism.

So I take it your not coming to the goat sacrifice tonight then. :D

PS. This guys threads should all be thrown into the rant files in my opinion. "Summary against Christ" as a thread title. HAH! I wouldnt be surprised if this bloke has house full of AK47 assault riffles and is about to go awol very soon.

[luciferhorus]

A ha ha h ha ha. Your bored debating with Christians and yet you can't resist "attempting" to debunk it with counteless thread topic posts in religous forums since the begining of the internet??


Actually I am not really bored in general, I am far too addicted to the dissemination of propaganda; I am simply bored with the quality of debate, but this a good sign, since there are very few intelligent Christians willing to defend the ridiculousness of Christian Capitalist theology and their Capitalist state terrorist god; generally I think that the anti-Chrisitians, the Communist Christians and Liberation theologians have already won the debate, morally and intellectually with the defenders of the God of Capital; military and political victory however is quite another matter and will in time follow the moral and intellectual victory; propaganda being the first stage of war.


What do you say fellow evil Christians, let's sacrifice a goat and eat its flesh, drink it's blood and summon God to rid us of this scourge that is lucifer horus from the internet for all eternity? (and lucifer horus of his boredom) My place tomorrow at seven okay? Bring a plate!

http://kariborders.blogspot.com/Goat-sacrifice.jpg


You want to sacrifice a goat to your evil god? Do you honestly think that this will impress the armies of Hell? You will have to do better than that; my robes have long ago been dipped in the blood of the Christians and it will take a lot more than a few goats to dispel my magickical workings and the summoning of the angels of the apocalypse.

Unfortunately apocalyptic guerilla war shall be forthcoming and no amount of goat sacrifices will change that; failing the unlikely surrender of the Christian state terrorists and the priesthood of Capital, rivers of blood I demand as the penalty for disobedience and the blasphemies of Christian Capitalism, state terrorism, narco-terrorism, imperialism and a multitude of sins, and and I shall settle for nothing less.

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Lux

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Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgment has come in one hour.’ The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more; merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you, and all things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning; saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every shipmaster, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For in one hour is she made desolate.

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[miracles]

[QUOTE=luciferhorus;1004025]Actually I am not really bored in general, I am far too addicted to the dissemination of propaganda;


I know. Now your just bumping this crap. ( dont worry no one turned up for the goat sacrifice, they all love you here) Ive been eating goat sandwhiches for weeks.

Can you get me a good deal on an AK 47 dude? You must be getting a bulk discount.

Garbage in garbage out, hense the lack of quality of your debate.

[pinkfreud]

please keep to the thread topic folks... open debate is most welcome, but any petty arguments will see this thread make its way into the netherworld.

[uncia]

Let me get this straight. God, the almighty creator of everything, against whom there is no possible opposition nor power that can contain or thwart him or his will, had to 'overcome the resistance of the weak flesh' to accomplish HIS OWN WILL?

Man, you folks are a riot.

If it's your view that Jesus is not God then it's ok. But otherwise your position is untenable.
Yes, when God became flesh he ceased being God. That is to say, he did not cease to retain the personality of God, but he ceased to retain the form of God. To be fully God, one must retain both personality and form.

Christ was fully human yet overcame the weakness of his flesh - something no other man has done. Which is why in the end there is no case against Christ. :(

[danceswithbunnies]

That is such a horrific unspeakable picture of the poor animal..

But i have seen (and very quickly turned off because i am such a softy for animals)
Jews killing a lamb for their passover.
Truly horrific.

Yes Christians are sadomasochists. I was looking for (and can't find in my bookmarks) the story about this saint who used to NOT wash, and cinched a belt about his middle so tightly that the flesh started rotting and was crawling with maggots.

They would be dropping from his flesh and he would scoop them back up and put them back in his flesh, telling onlookers that the destruction of the body was a glory to god.
He was held as the highest version of PIETY for many centuries.

"Similarly my god is a militant black lesbian Jewish Communist. This projection of God or ‘definition’ of God is a quite separate issue to the issue of the existence of a Creator."

Sounds like Quakoralina.(star goddess of Feri )

[miracles]

Who said it was? And what 'myth' of 'mine are you referring to, exactly...?




LOL. Let me get this straight. God, the almighty creator of everything, against whom there is no possible opposition nor power that can contain or thwart him or his will, had to 'overcome the resistance of the weak flesh' to accomplish HIS OWN WILL?

Man, you folks are a riot.

If it's your view that Jesus is not God then it's ok. But otherwise your position is untenable.

And un Christian.

[danceswithbunnies]

Sounds like something else. Thats a picture of a black man preparing is dinner, it's not a jewish passover sacrifice for crying out loud. Lets make sweeping generlisations about everything then we can just put everything in one forum and on one thread.


That may be a black man preparing his dinner it is still barbaric.

And i have seen films online of jews sacrificing the passover lamb...and yes it was horrific.
What is a generalization about that?

Man's inhumanity to man under the Geas of the God of the Bible is only surpassed by man's inhumanity to animals under the same geas.
Hardly fitting for the image of the Lord of Creation, but absolutely fitting for man in the image of the God of the Bible...barbaric, insane, cruel, vile vitriputive...

[miracles]

That may be a black man preparing his dinner it is still barbaric.

And i have seen films online of jews sacrificing the passover lamb...and yes it was horrific.
What is a generalization about that?

Man's inhumanity to man under the Geas of the God of the Bible is only surpassed by man's inhumanity to animals under teh same geas.
Hardly fitting for the image of the Lord of Creation, but absolutely fitting for man in the image of the God of the Bible...barbaric, insane, cruel, vile vitriputive...

My bad, I thought you where implying the black dude was making a jewish passover sacrifice. Ooops sorry. Ive deleted the post. Mind you weve got NZ farmers keeping 1000s of pigs in a meter by meter cage for years screaming like they are in Hell. They arent Jewish.

[danceswithbunnies]

My bad, I thought you where implying the black dude was making a jewish passover sacrifice. Ooops sorry. Ive deleted the post. Mind you weve got NZ farmers keeping 1000s of pigs in a meter by meter cage for years screaming like they are in Hell. They arent Jewish.

Yep..i know.
Factory farming here in the US is also like that.Pigs growing in cages where their flesh grows around the metal because they are crammed into cages.

When i pray at night, the times i do pray, the animals like this in factory farms, slaughterhouses, in laboratories, and animals shelters are what i focus on first...then praying for assistance for everyone world over that died that day.

[miracles]

Yep..i know.
Factory farming here in the US is also like that.Pigs growing in cages where their flesh grows around the metal because they are crammed into cages.

When i pray at night, the times i do pray, the animals like this in factory farms, slaughterhouses, in laboratories, and animals shelters are what i focus on first...then praying for assistance for everyone world over that died that day.

Your prayers have been answered here recently, it only came to light last week about the pigs, keep up the prayers, start praying for 26000 children that are dieing every day from treatable diseases like the common cold. I think the media release these types of things to keep our mind of bigger things, not that its not important, we are getting the laws changed over here to stop this.

[danceswithbunnies]

Your prayers have been answered here recently, it only came to light last week about the pigs, keep up the prayers, start praying for 26000 children that are dieing every day from treatable diseases like the common cold. I think the media release these types of things to keep our mind of bigger things, not that its not important, we are getting the laws changed over here to stop this.

I pray for them too..

That is pretty much my prayer list
Those are the three things i pray for the animals, the dead, and the starving...

I almost never pray for anything for myself..except this last december when my oldest bunny got very sick after a really hideous blizzard that snowed us in for christmas, i stayed at the vet hospital all night praying to no avail.

The following story is off topic, and i probably should not be posting it.
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I honestly am not sure that anything i DID brought me the my new bunny, as in law of attraction..but i could be wrong..some very strange stuff has been happening.

When i got home after my bunny had been put to sleep, i kept seeing him darting out of the corner of my eye.

Two days later i drew a card from the sabian symbol deck (360 cards), asking if my precious bunny wanted to reincarnate back to me..i got Pisces 17 EASTER PROMENADE.
(i do not draw cards often because i do not like to gum up the probabilities)

I prayed for bunny every single night, for his protection and sending him love.

I called a clairvoyant that has helped me with other re-incarnating rabbits.
He confirmed either this Easter or next Easter...
The bunny would be white with blackish and brown spots.

Easter Week, go to turn on computer and there staring in my window is a small white rabbit with brindle and tan spots.

[miracles]

I pray for them too..

That is pretty much my prayer list
Those are the three things i pray for the animals, the dead, and the starving...

I almost never pray for anything for myself..except this last december when my oldest bunny got very sick after a really hideous blizzard that snowed us in for christmas, i stayed at the vet hospital all night praying to no avail.

The following story is off topic, and i probably should not be posting it.
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I honestly am not sure that anything i DID brought me the my new bunny, as in law of attraction..but i could be wrong..some very strange stuff has been happening.

When i got home after my bunny had been put to sleep, i kept seeing him darting out of the corner of my eye.

Two days later i drew a card from the sabian symbol deck (360 cards), asking if my precious bunny wanted to reincarnate back to me..i got Pisces 17 EASTER PROMENADE.
(i do not draw cards often because i do not like to gum up the probabilities)

I prayed for bunny every single night, for his protection and sending him love.

I called a clairvoyant that has helped me with other re-incarnating rabbits.
He confirmed either this Easter or next Easter...
The bunny would be white with blackish and brown spots.

Easter Week, go to turn on computer and there staring in my window is a small white rabbit with brindle and tan spots.



Spooookey. :eek: Stop dancing with the devil. Can I ask you a Question? Are there people in here who cast spells on people, is witchcraft powerful enough to cast a spell on someone at the end of a computer 1000000s of miles away?? Anyone? IE curse someone and ther family?? I fear that. (please protect me form that Lord Jesus, thats my prayer)

[danceswithbunnies]

Spooookey. :eek: Stop dancing with the devil.

Having LOVE in your heart is actually the highest prayer and religion.

Spooky things happen with love.

[miracles]

Having LOVE in your heart is actually the highest prayer and religion.

Spooky things happen with love.

Consulting taro cards and clairvoyants is dancing with the devil.

[element]

Consulting taro cards and clairvoyants is dancing with the devil.
We're all clairvoyants mate. It's just the amount of awareness in which we all differ.(due to activities) Jesus Christ was a clairvoyant too, no doubt about it.

.

[danceswithbunnies]

Forgot to mention..for anyone who is wondering

i went outside that night, laid face down with my hands out...and bunny ran up and nestled his little head into my hand.
He is in my living room now, living the life of luxury.

APOLOGIZE FOR HIJACKING THE THREAD..
WILL STOP NOW.

[luciferhorus]

Can I ask you a Question? Are there people in here who cast spells on people,)

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Why of course, Oh little one.


is witchcraft powerful enough to cast a spell on someone at the end of a computer 1000000s of miles away??

http://profilefunk.com/pics/decorations/angels/dark_angel.jpg

Why of course, there is nowhere on earth or under the earth, nor above the earth, nor in heaven to escape my wrath.


Anyone? IE curse someone and ther family??
)

http://blackepiphany.50webs.com/GrimReaper/GrimReaper047.jpg

And your children, and children's children, from generation to generation, etc., etc.


I fear that. (please protect me form that Lord Jesus, thats my prayer)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee34/southerngooner_album/CommunistJesus1.jpg

Fear not oh little one and be of good faith; the Lord Jesus will hear your prayer; unfortunately he cares not for those who misrepresent him, for they are the chaff who bear his curse and are fit only to be cast into the fire prepared for the devils of Christian Capitalism and their servants; turn instead to the one true anti-Capitalist Judeao-Communist-Anarchist faith which he propagated, and to opposition against organised religion and all the evil of Christianity and Capitalism, and Jesus shall verily defend you from my terrible and dreadful and veangful wrath; otherwise of course you will have to share the curse that he and I both have placed on the Capitalists and religious hypocrites, of which the Christians are the foremost example.



Love and Regards

http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif

Comandante Lucifer

http://th05.deviantart.com/fs25/300W/f/2008/148/2/8/Sigil_of_Lucifer_by_Monation.jpg

[danceswithbunnies]

Spooookey. :eek: Stop dancing with the devil. Can I ask you a Question? Are there people in here who cast spells on people, is witchcraft powerful enough to cast a spell on someone at the end of a computer 1000000s of miles away?? Anyone? IE curse someone and ther family?? I fear that. (please protect me form that Lord Jesus, thats my prayer)

(I said i wasn't gonna hijack the thread but i have to add something.)

Now Miracles...don't be so silly.

There is only ONE power, and it doesn't work that way.

Your idea of magic is a superstitious one, the only thing we have power to change with magic is ourselves , not anyone else.

I doubt if anyone here wants to hurt you ,
what would be gained from that?

I think Luciferhorus enjoys teasing you, but he can speak for himself.

[luciferhorus]

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I think Luciferhorus enjoys teasing you, but he can speak for himself.

Yes I bear him no harm. I am just teasing him, as you say. He is simply a hypnotised innocent.

Love and Light

Lux
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:a274pcxQQeEfeM:http://www.alexanderhaberbush.com/Hammer%2520and%2520sickle.jpg

[miracles]

Yes I bear him no harm. I am just teasing him, as you say. He is simply a hypnotised innocent.

Love and Light

Lux
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:a274pcxQQeEfeM:http://www.alexanderhaberbush.com/Hammer%2520and%2520sickle.jpg

Um she didnt say I was a hynotised innocent...:D

[miracles]

(I said i wasn't gonna hijack the thread but i have to add something.)

Now Miracles...don't be so silly.

There is only ONE power, and it doesn't work that way.

Your idea of magic is a superstitious one, the only thing we have power to change with magic is ourselves , not anyone else.

I doubt if anyone here wants to hurt you ,
what would be gained from that?

I think Luciferhorus enjoys teasing you, but he can speak for himself.

He's very good at teasing me, glad to hear no ones casting evil spells...:)

[uncia]

... is witchcraft powerful enough to cast a spell on someone at the end of a computer 1000000s of miles away?? Anyone? IE curse someone and ther family?? I fear that. (please protect me form that Lord Jesus, thats my prayer)
Ye of little faith!!! Do you really think Christians are susceptible to being cursed by Satanists? I spit in their faces.

[danceswithbunnies]

Ye of little faith!!! Do you really think Christians are susceptible to being cursed by Satanists? I spit in their faces.

WHO here is posting about "spitting in people's faces" and labeling them satanists?

You are.

Seems to me that your posts reveal more hate than anything Lucifer or i ever said in a post.

Be careful what you put out there because it comes back to you.

[uncia]

WHO here is posting about "spitting in people's faces" and labeling them satanists?

You are.

Seems to me that your posts reveal more hate than anything Lucifer or i ever said in a post.

Be careful what you put out there because it comes back to you.
metaphorically, of course....

[luciferhorus]

I thought I would just resurrect this in response to the "Who is Jesus's Father?" thread.

The OP answers this question.

Essentially God (Jesus) impregnated the "mother of God (i.e., Mary, Jesus' mohter)" in order to give birth to Jesus (God).

If as the Christians argue, Jesus is God herself, and if Jesus (God) impregnated his mother (Mary), then the only logical answer to the question of who Jesus' (God) father is, is that Jesus (God) is the father of Jesus (God).

This "Jesus (God) the mother-impregnator," belief, as ridiculous as it sounds is actually an orthodox belief held by millions of Christians; to deny that God (Jesus) impregnated his mother is of course an outrageous blasphemy.

LL

Lux
For blasphemy, war, revolution, etc.

[clachan]

I thought I would just resurrect this in response to the "Who is Jesus's Father?" thread.

The OP answers this question.

Essentially God (Jesus) impregnated the "mother of God (i.e., Mary, Jesus' mohter)" in order to give birth to Jesus (God).

If as the Christians argue, Jesus is God herself, and if Jesus (God) impregnated his mother (Mary), then the only logical answer to the question of who Jesus' (God) father is, is that Jesus (God) is the father of Jesus (God).

This "Jesus (God) the mother-impregnator," belief, as ridiculous as it sounds is actually an orthodox belief held by millions of Christians; to deny that God (Jesus) impregnated his mother is of course an outrageous blasphemy.

LL

Lux
For blasphemy, war, revolution, etc.


All people have a soul that enters the body at some point after conception,why do you find it so hard to imagine that a super natural entity cannot manifest itself on the material plane ?

Why is it so hard to understand that such a being can enter the world without the need for hankey-pankey ?
If God sent his "son" to earth then this seems the obvious route,via a woman who is by her very design,made to build bodies.

Im sure there are entities that exist on higher levels that can move into the physical,your arguments reveals a low level of understanding ,a closed mind,or more likely an ant Christ mentality that is ego based.

[luciferhorus]

Why is it so hard to understand that such a being can enter the world without the need for hankey-pankey ?
If God sent his "son" to earth then this seems the obvious route,via a woman who is by her very design,made to build bodies.


Well I am just taking a scientific perspective here. If a woman today claimed to have conceived a child without insemination, it would only be believable to the religious fanatics who are entirely unscientific; most scientists simply would not believe it, especially not when the claim is part of some ancient Holy Book which alleges that miracles occurred which are entirely non credible to the modern scientific world.


....,your arguments reveals a low level of understanding ,a closed mind,or more likely an ant Christ mentality that is ego based.

So I have a closed mind because if someone claims that a women gave birth without any insemination? Frankly that would also apply to virtually all of the modern scientific community. I suppose it is only the religious fanatics who have a truly "open mind" since they are obviously believe almost any nonesense or ancient myth their religion demands them to believe in.

I think you may be confusing an "open mind" with stupidity and with the attitude of a religious fanatic for whom the more stupid and incredible a religious belief is, the more they are likely to accepts it as the "truth".

Ye of little faith!!! Do you really think Christians are susceptible to being cursed by Satanists? I spit in their faces.

http://www.biblelandstudios.com/nuke/images/upload/Drool_Photo300.jpg

Don't you just feel the love? Did Jesus not state, "When someone rebukes you, just spit in their face or drop depleted uranium on them?"

Lux