Who has experience with Tarot-Cards ?

[amar7]

Hi,

do you have any experience with tarot and what can you say about it? Just curious about this and I've read that it could be connected to the jewish cabbalah..

[jammasterj13]

My girlfriend used to go and see a tarot card reader when we first met.
I soon put a stop to that.:D
For some reason the female of the species is more into this field of the occult than the male.

I think tarot cards originated in Egypt or India and were adopted by other cultures as a divination tool.
I've yet to meet a master tarot card reader. Although some of the different types of cards I would class them as very artistic .

Personally I don't really buy into tarot as I think you can't really predict the future as we all have free will and a choice.

Theirs a tarot card reader in Manchesters Afllecks Palace, me and my mate loved winding her up to the point she shut up shop for the day. She threatened us with the law once, I gotta say we or her didn't see that coming.:D

[kashmirz]

Im a active occultist, and as such the tarot is part of those studies.

Everything is energy, from words, to thoughts to movement. We live in a universe of energy and frequency's.

The reading of the cards acts efficiently if the person places their hands on the deck (which is a energetic construct in itself) so there energy flows over it. Then the reader, focuses their will, and searches for the direction of the energy via interpretation through the cards using their own.

This is partially why information can be obscure, because the energy always has to pass back through the readers personal filter.

There are two schools of thought active in regards to Tarot, one is true magick, the other is for mere entertainment.

Quote: Modern Magick - Kraig, Llewellyn Publishing - Lesson One Page 19

It is important to understand the difference between fortunetelling and divination. Fortunetelling says that something must happen, Divination such as with the tarot cards, never says what must happen, it only indicates what will probably happen if you continue on the path you are currently traversing.

According to this view, you have the Freedom to insure something happens or prevent it from occurring. You have free will and the choice is always up to you. Fortunetelling would say that, as an example, You will have an accident on a boat on a specific date. Divination would tell you that a boat trip at that time could cause problems and you are advised to stay away from boats. You can then either avoid the boat trip, or be extra careful when on the boat. Fortunetelling says you have no choice; you will be on a boat at that time and you will have an accident. Divination says you have free will: You can move to the desert, or at least you can stay away from boats. In this book we strongly affirm free will, Not predestination.

End Quote
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In regards to the kabbalah, and im very short on time ( needed to already leave for work) magick aspects that come from that, came through people with an already existing filter, this does not disregard whats taught through magick subjects that involve the kabbalah, but rather suggests that they need to be looked at with a keen eye to discern what is religious filtered nonsense, and what is pure ancient wisdom.

Would right more but i really have to dash.

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For other example look to the runes,throwing the bones, etc, as they are all the same utilizing energy to cause the outcome of the "reading"

David icke himself has experience it with his friend credo mutwa.

Really gotta dash, hope this helps you.

[ofgilead]

I'm not an expert, but I believe the Qabbalah and tarot are connected in that the wide assortment of tarot decks are a pictorial representation of the Tree of Life (qabbalah).

The 22 major arcana represent the Person or the sephiras on the tree. The 56 minor arcana represent the pathways to the 10 sephiroth.

sephira, sephiroth... etc. > these are all terms for the spheres on the tree of life, but damned if I can pin down which is the plural and which is singular.

Now if anyone wants to prove me wrong go for it. I am a little shaky on this stuff right now.

[headliner]

OT: but can someone tell me what the outfit the fool is wearing in the Tarot is called?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/kairosd/TheFool.jpg

Thanks.

[asha loka]

Sephira is singular, sephiroth is plural.

The name for the Fool's outfit is 'tasteless.' (Which is what you'd expect, really.)

(Actually it's 'tunic and hose' - but I'm not sure how kabbalistically significant that is. What's on the tunic may be more relevant.)

[feral]

OK I haven't really thought of this much since it happened until recently.

I was in a pub in Gillingham about 4 years ago when I was 17/18, there was a scruffy old gypsie fella at the table next to us and we started talking to him a bit. He was pretty drunk and had a huge sack of weed in his hand he kept waving about haha. Anyways he started doing tarot cards on my friends. He did 2 of my friends first, I can't remember what the cards or the interpretations where but they both seemed pretty amazed at how accurate he had read their personality and other things. Then he did me next. He did a 3 card lay, in which I think the first card represents the past, the 2nd card the present and the final card represents the future.

I can't remember what the first card was but he said it showed that I kept myself to myself and that I like to keep my personal life private from my friends and other people, which was true at the time. The second card I think was the fool, can't remember if it was inverted or not. He said it represented I was setting off into new things or into a new place or job, at the time I was one week away from heading to Bristol to start uni. The last card I couldn't remember at the time but I will always remember the picture. I've looked it up since and it was the 9 of swords, the meanings don't look too promising. I remember the guy just said "i'm sorry about that one" and didn't even tell me what it meant, which freaked me out a bit at the time. I don't really know how tarot readings work, but I wondered if anybody could tell me what that last card might mean in relation to the first 2 interpretations?

[darkskyeye]

handy link

http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib78.html
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/index.html

happy hunting

[karmic]

OK I haven't really thought of this much since it happened until recently.

I was in a pub in Gillingham about 4 years ago when I was 17/18, there was a scruffy old gypsie fella at the table next to us and we started talking to him a bit. He was pretty drunk and had a huge sack of weed in his hand he kept waving about haha. Anyways he started doing tarot cards on my friends. He did 2 of my friends first, I can't remember what the cards or the interpretations where but they both seemed pretty amazed at how accurate he had read their personality and other things. Then he did me next. He did a 3 card lay, in which I think the first card represents the past, the 2nd card the present and the final card represents the future.

I can't remember what the first card was but he said it showed that I kept myself to myself and that I like to keep my personal life private from my friends and other people, which was true at the time. The second card I think was the fool, can't remember if it was inverted or not. He said it represented I was setting off into new things or into a new place or job, at the time I was one week away from heading to Bristol to start uni. The last card I couldn't remember at the time but I will always remember the picture. I've looked it up since and it was the 9 of swords, the meanings don't look too promising. I remember the guy just said "i'm sorry about that one" and didn't even tell me what it meant, which freaked me out a bit at the time. I don't really know how tarot readings work, but I wondered if anybody could tell me what that last card might mean in relation to the first 2 interpretations?

the 9 of swords,in general this card would mean that there may be distruption around a group of peaple that you mix with,there is also an influence of ruin for someone you know this card is more about other peoples problems than yours,but you may become involved in a way of peacemaker.becauase you are an easy going private person you may not want to get more involved but in relation to the fool this card heralds new beginings so a move maybe to new area and getting to know new people but as i said the 9 of swords is more about others having problems rather than you.hope this helps

[curtaincat]

OT: but can someone tell me what the outfit the fool is wearing in the Tarot is called?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/kairosd/TheFool.jpg

Thanks.

?Why? do you like that outfit and want to get it?

I think the top is called either a tunic or jerkin .. the body part,
and on his legs he is wearing hose ( stockings).


nice outfit, ;)

[runlikehell]

Hi,

do you have any experience with tarot and what can you say about it? Just curious about this and I've read that it could be connected to the jewish cabbalah..

Ive used Tarot off and on for 19 Years, (a few diffrent sets) of cards.

It depends what cards you are using.

Think of Tarot cards as tools, every deck has a diffrent purpose.

For example if you want to bang in a nail you would use a hammer,
if you want to cut a pice of would you would use a saw.

If you want to go fortune telling (Which i personally think) is a load of Balls then get a deck that focuses more on that.

Or if you want to grow spiritualy then, get a deck that focuses more on the spiritual growth.

Think it depends on the individual and the individuals motives for using tarot in the first place.

But with that in mind they do work.

(depending what you want to do) :)

Have a look at this thread it may help you out

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44082

[thelonious]

Hi,

do you have any experience with tarot and what can you say about it? Just curious about this and I've read that it could be connected to the jewish cabbalah..

Ofgilead is correct. The Tarot is, for lack of a better term, a "picturebook" of the concepts found in the Qabalah, although not necessarily the "Jewish" Qabalah.

Most Qabalists who work with Tarot actually aren't Jewish at all, and follow the "Hermetic Qabalah".

The idea behind the Tarot is that the archetypal images awaken certain levels of consciousness indicate on the Qabalistic Tree of Life if the student possess the interpretive key.

[karenxwearsxprada]

I certianly have mixed emotions on tarot cards , I've been read the cards and I always seem to have a negative things read , I think its more of a worning thing then acually tell the future , I've been told for years that I was gonna be pregnant luckily im nowhere near it so im really doubting acurracy , but I do think it can warn people