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adbasque
10-05-2009, 12:19 PM
Is it a warning or another perversion?

In the recent years Dan Brown the writer of the Da vinci code and his new book the Angels and demons /illuminati.

And the movie is about to be released played by Tom Hanks and directed by Ron Howard ex: happy days actor.

I haven't seen the movie yet, I haven't had a chance to read the book either, but from the information I gathered about this film, I am not so sure whether it's a warning to humanity or just another way of perverting the truth, but my money is on the latter.

I believe they suddenly realised that lot of people are wakening to the illuminati conspiracy and they are trying to portray yet a totally different version of facts.

Because from what I gathered as clues about this film, it sounds more and more as the "Vatican" is a good guy fighting the illuminati.

Yes maybe in the early centuries, it's true that the church did fight the illuminati and their conspiracy plan.

Then they went underworld to reform, but not the vatican, the Vatican was placed there by the illuminati to block the truth.

I could be wrong about the Vatican, I am not sure whether they took over the Vatican or they created it, that's the only thing that I am not sure of.


either way the result is the same.

My question now is this Dan Brown one of them, or one of us trying to pass the message despite all the obstacles of the controls in the publishing world and cinema.

watson_k
10-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Is it a warning or another perversion?

In the recent years Dan Brown the writer of the Da vinci code and his new book the Angels and demons /illuminati.

And the movie is about to be released played by Tom Hanks and directed by Ron Howard ex: happy days actor.

I haven't seen the movie yet, I haven't had a chance to read the book either, but from the information I gathered about this film, I am not so sure whether it's a warning to humanity or just another way of perverting the truth, but my money is on the latter.

I believe they suddenly realised that lot of people are wakening to the illuminati conspiracy and they are trying to portray yet a totally different version of facts.

Because from what I gathered as clues about this film, it sounds more and more as the "Vatican" is a good guy fighting the illuminati.

Yes maybe in the early centuries, it's true that the church did fight the illuminati and their conspiracy plan.

Then they went underworld to reform, but not the vatican, the Vatican was placed there by the illuminati to block the truth.

I could be wrong about the Vatican, I am not sure whether they took over the Vatican or they created it, that's the only thing that I am not sure of.


either way the result is the same.

My question now is this Dan Brown one of them, or one of us trying to pass the message despite all the obstacles of the controls in the publishing world and cinema.

That or they realised they could jump on the Illuminati band wagon and get more sales because they knew that the 'conspiracy theorists' will be out to see what 'demonic' tripe is in the movie.

From what I've seen (which is short) of the previews it looks like they've painted the Illuminati as the Good guys, the Church as the bad guys, and all the illuminati are trying to do is get back at them.

Hey if you were Gallileo Gallilei you'd probably want to do the same thing.

adbasque
10-05-2009, 02:26 PM
That or they realised they could jump on the Illuminati band wagon and get more sales because they knew that the 'conspiracy theorists' will be out to see what 'demonic' tripe is in the movie.

From what I've seen (which is short) of the previews it looks like they've painted the Illuminati as the Good guys, the Church as the bad guys, and all the illuminati are trying to do is get back at them.

Hey if you were Gallileo Gallilei you'd probably want to do the same thing.

I think they are trying to portray the Vatican as the bad guy, and the illuminati as the good guys.
Because the illuminati is an abstract unless you know the real members, up until now there's no official claim to their membership, which means illuminati is nobody and everybody.

and that way they will rally the people against the Illuminati and side with the Vatican.
Which in fact they are all one, I think it's just a tactic, to say that the illuminati and the Vatican are two different entities (for the sheeple)

Most people would think it's a myth, or fiction.

1977
10-05-2009, 07:49 PM
The historical Illuminati of Weishaupt was opposed to the Vatican.

The alternate-historical Illuminati of conspiracy theorists has no name and has been an ever-changing Proteus throughout history.

drhemp
10-05-2009, 08:31 PM
The book is excellent, a real page turner.

At the end of the day it's a work of fiction, though I can understand why the Catholic Church don't like this book or the Da Vinci Code, as Dan Brown does reveal a few home truths about the Catholic Church and the Vatican that do not shed them in a very good light.

adbasque
10-05-2009, 08:34 PM
The historical Illuminati of Weishaupt was opposed to the Vatican.

The alternate-historical Illuminati of conspiracy theorists has no name and has been an ever-changing Proteus throughout history.

Illuminati changed names and infiltrated many organisations, they simply infiltrated and completely took over the Vatican.
Like they did most other things.

They opposed every religion, because religion was their obstacle right from the word go.
And that's why I kept saying that religion is NOT part of their plan, yes they have infiltrated some religious groups and corrupted them, but religion itself is against everything they did or planning to do, because it's 100% evil.

They started waging wars "in the name" of religion so people later will blame religion.

The only way to be ahead of these people, when you think of an evil thing, think that they are capable of worse things.

And it's a good practice to to think of them as real evil, don't judge them by what you wouldn't do.
By the way I am not catholic nor christian but the principle is the same.

adbasque
10-05-2009, 09:52 PM
The book is excellent, a real page turner.

At the end of the day it's a work of fiction, though I can understand why the Catholic Church don't like this book or the Da Vinci Code, as Dan Brown does reveal a few home truths about the Catholic Church and the Vatican that do not shed them in a very good light.

Yes maybe the book does shed some truth but I believe the truth is also twisted elsewhere.

We all know that the Vatican is the most corrupt institution in the world and perhaps the richest too.

But for me I don't seperate the Vatican from the Illuminatis, because it's just one of their many organisations.

stewart edwards
10-05-2009, 11:22 PM
Illuminati = Illuminated one.

How do you become illuminated? - you answer the eternal questions.

How do you answer the eternal questions? - You search for the grail.

How do you search for the grail? - You follow your heart. While being self critical.


There is more than a grain of truth written above, you would be wide to reflect upon it. And one day you could find yourself Illuminati.

darketernal
11-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Illuminati = Illuminated one.

How do you become illuminated? - you answer the eternal questions.

How do you answer the eternal questions? - You search for the grail.

How do you search for the grail? - You follow your heart. While being self critical.


There is more than a grain of truth written above, you would be wide to reflect upon it. And one day you could find yourself Illuminati.


I was born from the grail, and accept who I am, but those who would define what this means for me are unworthy... they have been weighed in the scales and found wanting.

meksar
11-05-2009, 01:34 AM
Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit priest who was also in league with the Rothschild's and Saxe-Coburg-Gotha's. I have no intention to go out of my way to see the film as i feel it is Illuminati propaganda, the Illuminati are merely the Zionists and Jesuits working together at the highest levels. The Zionists run the socialist aspects of it, while the Jesuits run the fascist aspects of it.

There are many different connections between the religions and secret societies, the Illuminati really call themselves the Olympians and are obsessed by the 5 rings of Lucifer. To become a Jesuit priest is to become a highly skilled ninja/assassin, remember Shredder from Ninja Turtles or Darth Vader from Star Wars, a pretty good representation of the black pope.

http://one-evil.org/people/people_18c_Weishaupt.htm

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

metacomet
11-05-2009, 02:38 AM
Read and enjoyed Da Vinci Code. When the movie came out I saw it for what it was. Fantastic disinfo story.

Never read Angels and Demons but I suspect the next movie will be the exact same thing. Trailer had me sighing and shaking my head.

adbasque
11-05-2009, 09:27 AM
Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit priest who was also in league with the Rothschild's and Saxe-Coburg-Gotha's. I have no intention to go out of my way to see the film as i feel it is Illuminati propaganda, the Illuminati are merely the Zionists and Jesuits working together at the highest levels. The Zionists run the socialist aspects of it, while the Jesuits run the fascist aspects of it.

There are many different connections between the religions and secret societies, the Illuminati really call themselves the Olympians and are obsessed by the 5 rings of Lucifer. To become a Jesuit priest is to become a highly skilled ninja/assassin, remember Shredder from Ninja Turtles or Darth Vader from Star Wars, a pretty good representation of the black pope.

http://one-evil.org/people/people_18c_Weishaupt.htm

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

Yes the Illuminati, has drawn many organisation evil organisations, and good ones turned into evil.
Yes the Black pope runs a brigade of assassins, and yes I am sure the film and the book is part of their propaganda.

The da vinci code, and Angels and Demons, what is striking suddenly they started mentioning the Illuminatis, the Vatican and their relations.

I remember back in the early 80s anyone you talk to about the illuminatis, they think you're either crazy or irrational.

Adam Weishaupt did not create the Illuminatis, the illuminatis did exist before him, but he structured and merged it with other secret societies.

But the illuminati or known as the Luciferians existed long before Adam Weishaupt.
Because he was recruited and influenced by his godfather, he then formed a small group Order of Perfectibilists
which is now known as the Illuminati

His vision was to create the New World Order free of all secret societies and religions.

But I doubt very much that he had any good intentions in creating a world order for the benefit of humanity.

Well, anyway this not what this thread is all about, I believe maybe they are panicking a little bit, because they like to stick to schedule, things needs to be done on time or they have failed.

so I suspect they are running slightly behind schedule, and that's an act of desperation, and they are watching millions world wide are waking up.

And that's why they are speeding up things, however there is a downside to this.
If they are desperate they can do anything, that's where the situation gets dangerous, it's like a wounded bear or lion, he is more dangerous when he is wounded.

We'll see what happens after people watch this film, I will watch it out of curiosity, I know it's a propaganda but I still want to see how much lies are in it. and how they are going to try and pervert the truth.

boots
11-05-2009, 10:03 AM
Yes maybe the book does shed some truth but I believe the truth is also twisted elsewhere.

We all know that the Vatican is the most corrupt institution in the world and perhaps the richest too.

But for me I don't seperate the Vatican from the Illuminatis, because it's just one of their many organisations.

There certainly are many twist in this tail.

I've been reading the book "In God's name" which shows that the Vatican is as corrupt as it comes. The Mafia has infiltrated the Vatican bank and the Vatican is full of Freemasons. It doesn't give a fuck about the people who is supposedly represents. There connections have spread all over the world.

God help us:rolleyes:

The ideals of the Illuminati groups work through every organization and corporation in the world. I think it's very hard to pin point an exact group who is in control. This film will have a two fold effect. I feel it will not only spread bullshit but will wake up the majority who have no clue at all as how the world is run.

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adbasque
11-05-2009, 12:47 PM
There certainly are many twist in this tail.

I've been reading the book "In God's name" which shows that the Vatican is as corrupt as it comes. The Mafia has infiltrated the Vatican bank and the Vatican is full of Freemasons. It doesn't give a fuck about the people who is supposedly represents. There connections have spread all over the world.

God help us:rolleyes:

The ideals of the Illuminati groups work through every organization and corporation in the world. I think it's very hard to pin point an exact group who is in control. This film will have a two fold effect. I feel it will not only spread bullshit but will wake up the majority who have no clue at all as how the world is run.

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That is exactly my view, I totally agree with you.
it's really hard to say who is and who isn't, because the way they infiltrated these organisations, is basically on the need to know basis.

We can't possibly say who is and who isn't involved, and what makes it even harder is to differentiate between the ones who are doing it willingly and the ones who are helping but haven't got a clue of what they are doing.

They are constantly disseminating false information from top to bottom of the pyramid.
the lower you go and the less you know.

Fortunately we know the few who are at the top, remove all bankers, corporations, royalties, some scientists, once the head is gone the rest can be restored.

But so long as these bastards are still not behind bars, we can't change much
basically all the royalties are impostors

The Saudis, were put there by the British
The morrocan king, his father killed the real king and took over the country, with the help of the french, british israeli secret services.

The European royal families were all killed or exiled, the King of persia met the same fate.
Practically all of the real royal familie world wide were either killed or put in prison until they died some were exiled.


They were doing it one step at a time and people could not see it coming.
Let's look at this Queen, on what grounds is she a queen? who gave her the rights?
She is German how can she be Queen of these islands?
and that goes to many others world wide.
And the British have conquered, killed, massacred entire populations, corrupted most countries including china, committed the biggest genocides in our history, all of that was in the name of "the King or Queen" of the time.

Our national Anthem, God save the Queen, to hell the rest of us.

God save the Queen
May the Queen live long {Or king}
Long live the Queen

Not god save Britain and it's people, just the Queen and her family.
The ass*** Philip is a racist and a eugenic, he would happily wipe most of humanity and create his own supreme race. of course they have to be slaves


The first time eugenism was mentioned in the series "Star Trek" as a fictional universe, in an episode titled Space seed or something like that.

In those days it was only fictional, now we are entering that phase.

These people are extremely dangerous, and to be honest if you look at them they all look weird and ugly as far as I am concerned, their faces are like horses.
Because they don't inter-breed they inbreed and that's why they have all these funny faces.

boots
11-05-2009, 01:20 PM
Hi adbasque

One thing that does stand out and is a theme that runs through all of them is money. There is the old money as the royals and the banking establishments, corporations ie Rockefeller's, Rothschilds, Collins etc. and the newer one such as Murdoch, Gates ( who some how I feel doesn't know the true extent, I might be wrong?) and the Mafia.

Then there is religion as with the Vatican, Freemasons, Islam etc who hold the spiritual side of the equation.

Then we have the think tanks which are almost openly telling the world the agenda. Bilderbergs Trilateral commission, CFR. etc plus the Media.

The only hope lye's with us and a hundredth monkey effect and the understanding that we are infinite consciousness.


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kidsarocker
11-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Hi adbasque

One thing that does stand out and is a theme that runs through all of them is money. There is the old money as the royals and the banking establishments, corporations ie Rockefeller's, Rothschilds, Collins etc. and the newer one such as Murdoch, Gates ( who some how I feel doesn't know the true extent, I might be wrong?) and the Mafia.

Then there is religion as with the Vatican, Freemasons, Islam etc who hold the spiritual side of the equation.

Then we have the think tanks which are almost openly telling the world the agenda. Bilderbergs Trilateral commission, CFR. etc plus the Media.

The only hope lye's with us and a hundredth monkey effect and the understanding that we are infinite consciousness.


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We are not infinite consciousness. This is another illuminati plan to makes us think that we are alll gods, there is only one god and if the hope rests with us I'd like to see you take on Horus/the Anti-christ/Dajjal

kidsarocker
11-05-2009, 01:50 PM
Is it a warning or another perversion?

In the recent years Dan Brown the writer of the Da vinci code and his new book the Angels and demons /illuminati.

And the movie is about to be released played by Tom Hanks and directed by Ron Howard ex: happy days actor.

I haven't seen the movie yet, I haven't had a chance to read the book either, but from the information I gathered about this film, I am not so sure whether it's a warning to humanity or just another way of perverting the truth, but my money is on the latter.

I believe they suddenly realised that lot of people are wakening to the illuminati conspiracy and they are trying to portray yet a totally different version of facts.

Because from what I gathered as clues about this film, it sounds more and more as the "Vatican" is a good guy fighting the illuminati.

Yes maybe in the early centuries, it's true that the church did fight the illuminati and their conspiracy plan.

Then they went underworld to reform, but not the vatican, the Vatican was placed there by the illuminati to block the truth.

I could be wrong about the Vatican, I am not sure whether they took over the Vatican or they created it, that's the only thing that I am not sure of.


either way the result is the same.

My question now is this Dan Brown one of them, or one of us trying to pass the message despite all the obstacles of the controls in the publishing world and cinema.

The Vatican has been infiltrated, Monotheism religions were made by God and Polytheism religions are made by man, why is it that it is only Monotheism religions that are attacked such as Islam.

Jesus was killed by the Holy Roman Empire and the Jews and the king james version is full of disinformation, David Icke has a lot of dis-info aswell such as there is no god - you are god, why do you think he is still alive. Even Alex Jones (he never mentions or acknowledges the Zionists part in this conspiracy) Research Hashem films if you can (very hard to - youtube keeps deleting his work and also his website has been hacked and pulled) hashem has somehow disappeared, watch his work - The AntiChrist/Dajjal will be a reptillian shapeshifter. If you can't find it, email me and I will send it to you. kidsarocker@yahoo.co.uk

agneau
11-05-2009, 01:53 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, I haven't had a chance to read the book either, but from the information I gathered......

Now, you see, this is why a lot of people might think that this site cannot be taken seriously. You don't think that perhaps before forming a judgement on something you might just want to research it a little bit? No? Then you're going get on fine with this chappie:

The only hope lye's with us and a hundredth monkey effect and the understanding that we are infinite consciousness. - Boots

That'll be the proverbial two hopes, then....

adbasque
11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
The Vatican has been infiltrated, Monotheism religions were made by God and Polytheism religions are made by man, why is it that it is only Monotheism religions that are attacked such as Islam.

Jesus was killed by the Holy Roman Empire and the Jews and the king james version is full of disinformation, David Icke has a lot of dis-info aswell such as there is no god - you are god, why do you think he is still alive. Even Alex Jones (he never mentions or acknowledges the Zionists part in this conspiracy) Research Hashem films if you can (very hard to - youtube keeps deleting his work and also his website has been hacked and pulled) hashem has somehow disappeared, watch his work - The AntiChrist/Dajjal will be a reptillian shapeshifter. If you can't find it, email me and I will send it to you. kidsarocker@yahoo.co.uk

Hi Kisarocker, religions are all the message of god, in which they were tapered with, first religion, second religion and the third religion, there's no such thing as catholicism, it's Christianity, Judaism, Islam.

The three religions are a weapon to fight the evil ones, as you said, the Roman Empire executed Jesus, under the strong request of the Hebrew Priests.

Muslims believe that Jesus is not killed, he was raised to the heavens by God and he will return in the latter day, or the day of Judgement well just before, he will restore order on this planet, he will restore Justice.

The reason why Islam came down is because God could see that Christianity has been tampered with, and it's his words. (what Islam teaches)

If you look around you, you'll see that religion was always battling against evil, especially the Illuminatis and all this secret societies.

They went underground to reform and came back to reduce religion to practically nil.
And they have succeeded in a way, because more and more people are pulling away from religion, and the only religion that is still a thorn in their foot, is Islam.
That's why Islam gets it more than the other two religions, well we must understand one thing.

The illuminati worship Lucifer (Satan) and they used the Jews to accomplish their own agenda, which in some cases some of the illuminatis themselves were from a Jewish background.

By glorifying the Jews, giving them most important positions in all walk of life.
Showbizz, Cinema, Publishing, Politics, Law, you name it.

Where most Jews believe it's for their own good, but in fact they are only used until the day they don't need them anymore, they'll get rid of them.

Most Jews believe that Israel is for the Jewish people, very few Jews know that Israel is for Solomon's temple, for the Illuminatis/ Zionist.

So the truth is all twisted decade after decade trying to burry it, but it keeps resurfacing.
Truth will prevail sooner or later.

hagbard_celine
12-05-2009, 02:07 PM
The book is excellent, a real page turner.



Hmm, it was passable in my view;). I much prefered The DaVinci Code.

The organization in the book called "The Illuminati" is nothing like the REAL Illuminati. There may well be secular and/or scientific secret societies in a conflict with the Church, Weishaut's Illuminati could qualify, but the REAL Illuminati created an controlle both religion and secular authorities so any such conflict would be a controlled sham.

pgmazica
12-05-2009, 04:27 PM
Just recently a friend of mine told me that she has a friend who is archeologist and works for a long time in Vatican....and that friend told her that when this new pope Benedict XVI was ellected, this was purely political desigion....she said that there were a lot better "candidats" but it looks like Benedict was the choosen one from who know who....

I allways liked the old pope Ivan PavaoII ( eng. John Paul II), even I'm not chatolic...and this new looks like evil inside...I'm scared of him!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1570/papabenediktxviv.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papabenediktxviv.jpg)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2508/papaivan.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaivan.jpg)

look their eyes...eyes are a mirror of a soul...doesn't Benedict looks like a devil inside??

luciferhorus
12-05-2009, 06:07 PM
On the King of all the World and the Genetic and Esoteric roots of Freemasonry

Comandante Lucifer

http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif


War of Armageddon. World Communist Revolution. The Return to Year Zero.
The Final Revolutionary War of Economic Salvation.

Aeon of Light 2009


On the ‘DaVinci Code’

Michael Baigent, the editor of Freemasonry Today, unsuccessfully sued Dan Brown in the British courts for copying the central theme of his book 'Holy Blood and the Holy Grail; a central theme of which is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and begat a lineage which has been hidden behind various secret societies. While Baigent's book is not fiction, it is certainly relies on 'conspiracy theories' rather than historical evidence.

Sadducees

One of the weaknesses of this entire 'lineage' theory is that Jesus, the alleged son of a Sadducee (i.e., Zechariah), according to the Gospels, was executed at the request of the Sadducees, who placed a reward on Jesus for his arrest. The Sadducees 'were' the Solomonic temple priesthood of that age, just as Freemasonry today represents the Solomonic temple priesthood; wherever you go in the world it is the Freemasons who have a habit of building temples whose inner sanctum is always a copy of Solomon's temple, and they are clearly a Kabbalist cult of ritual magicians whose belief system stems from the ancient Israelites and the Egyptians

Anachronism (out of historical context).

It is a rather strange theory that having placed a reward for Jesus' arrest, that the Solomonic Temple priesthood would construct a religious cult around the lineage of Jesus. In addition to this, bear in mind that Jesus clearly despised the Sadducees and frequently cursed them. Thus the idea that modern Solomonic temple ritualism has within it the lineage of Jesus is clearly anachronistic revisionism. It is as if a cult whose forefathers were responsible for the execution of a martyr claimed to represent the martyr; this is not unknown however, since today for example Joan of Arc (whom the Catholics executed for witchcraft) is a Catholic saint.

Anti-thesis (opposite idea).

If one considers what Freemasonry today represents, they represent the economic and religious establishment, and yet Jesus is depicted as being an enemy of the economic and religious establishment of his age; the Masonic agenda is quite the opposite of that of the Jesus of the Gospels.

The Hiram Key.

Another 'historical conspiracy' work along the lines of 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' is the ‘Hiram Key,’ written by two Freemasons, Knight and Lomas, and offers a much more credible theory than Baigent's. Simply put, Knight and Lomas argue that the 'myth' of Hiram Abiff which is taught to all Freemasons in their first three degrees reveals the truth of both the historical lineage at the centre of Solomonic cultism, ‘and’ it’s priestly hierarchy. Much is revealed by the fact that etymologically (the historical roots of words) the term 'Hiram Abiff (Hiram: King, Abiff: secret, lost. hidden) is not a name but a title.

Secret King

I find it much more credible that within Freemasonry is a 'secret king' whose lineage is as Knight and Lomas argue; that of the Egyptian / Phonecian magickal aristocracy. Solomonic temple cultism / ritualism of course has absolutely nothing to do with resistance against the religious and economic establishment; on the contrary, it is exactly the opposite, it is about living in submission and obedience to such archons.

Power, Money and Esoteric (Secret) Knowledge.

What defines Freemasonry is the use of magick for the purpose of the acquiring power, money and esoteric knowledge; that was hardly the agenda of the numerous anti-establishment Jesus archetypes whom the Gospels were based upon.

Solomon.

Bear in mind also that Moses as described in the Torah was allegedly an anti-monarchist and a republican; he set up a non-monarchic system of 12 elected judges who in turn ruled over other judges. The period of Judges allegedly existed for 400 years or so after the alleged Egyptian slave revolution; it is not until Saul, David and his son Solomon that the Israelites reverted to tyranny (monarchy).'Solomon' is clearly portrayed as an 'evil king' whose religious faith represented everything that Moses had rebelled against, and who again instigated human sacrifice cultism (1 Kings 11: 7) and Phoenician Temple worship; whereas Moses and Joshua had a habit of raising such temples to the ground and submitting the priesthood and their cultists to genocide. By the time of the reformist king Josiah (who was executed by Pharaoh for executing the priesthood and the temple prostitutes, burning all idols, etc), the religion of the Israelites bore no resemblance to the Mosaic reforms and was little different to the cults of the surrounding regions; the fact that Pharoah could summon and execute Josiah for his religious reforms gives an insight into where the real religious and political power in the region lay.

The King of all the World.

For every slave a master and for every master a slave.</

If one accepts Knight and Lomas's arguments, it would appear that 'Solomon' was merely a 'puppet' king and that the 'real king' was an Egyptian / Phoenician magician / priest. The Book of Kings describes Hiram Abiff as a Pheonecian, but Knight and Lomas offer argument that he was in fact an Egyptian; either way his influence over the Israelites was not that of a fellow Israelite, but of a devotee of a ‘foreign (gentile)’ religion. Further extend this to the modern world and it would appear that the various public Grand Masters of the various Masonic rites and the various heads of states of the Capitalist world are little more than 'puppets' for the King of all the World whose 'lineage' has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus and Mary Magdalene; on the contrary.

The idea that the world is ruled by a very different set of persons that we read about in the press is a common belief held by numerous modern conspiracy theorists and historians; and it is a central theme of Freemasonry. We do not live in the 'republics' and 'monarchies' that many think we do, our political leaders must pay homage to the King of Kings; we live in an economic dictatorship ruled by an anonymous and hidden tyrant of tyrants, a magician (spiritualist) who represents all that the Christians, Muslims and Jews consider to be the Anti-Christ, Ad Dijall, Anti-Messiah.

It is commonly held by those who study secret societies that there is a general agenda for a ‘New World Order,’ a global neo-fascist police state, a one world government, a one world banking system, etc, along with global depopulation. However this would not be a ‘democracy’ nor a ‘republic,’ irrespective of whether there is any electoral process; it would simply be a dictatorship which represents the ‘Great Work of the Ages’ of the cult of the secret king.

On the last occasion that I went on a tour of London’s Grand Lodge, I discussed this matter briefly with the curator who was giving the tour; I asked him if he considered the Masonic Grand Master of Masters to be the Masonic equivalent of the Christian messiah; his reply was an instant ‘Of course.’ This matter is hardly now a secret. Global dictatorship is their agenda. There will come an age where there are only two choices, you will either have to be ‘for’ the state terrorists and their Grand Master, or against him. Any other position is that of confusion.

Legacy

2000 years ago the Israelite Diaspora spread throughout the Hellenic world, however many of these individuals were Hellenic converts; the concept of an 'Israelite race' was one that would have been anti-thetical to evangelical Israelites who sought to proselytise and 'covert;’ however today it is Jews of European descent who discriminate against Semites (such as the ‘Arabs’) and Semitic Jews. You will not find a single image however of any Egyptian slave depicted on the walls of Egypt who looks like the current blond haired, non-Semitic president of Israel; Pharaoh many have been an imperialist but he certainly did not capture German and Scandinavian slaves. What you will find in Egyptian art is a record of slaves of African (i.e., black Nubians) and North African Semitic appearance. 2000 years ago the Israelites in Israel would have been Semites (i.e., of Arabic appearance)

2000 years ago, among the Israelite diaspora, in a rather brutal warlike, imperialistic ‘slave’ society with an extreme division between the slavemasters and the common people in the Hellenic world, the Israelite faith, like the early Christian faith in it’s first 300 years would have appealed to those who were at the bottom of the economic food chain. With a new extended family and often a new name, they would have found not only a faith but love and companionship and acceptance irrespective of social class in a faith originating in ‘slave revolution,’ whose prophets were not divine emperors but rather those who cried out against the tyrants and oppressors of the poor of their age.

In summary, a central problem I have with Dan Brown and Baigent’s racial ‘Jesus lineage’ theory is that it creates confusion about a very important issue. 2000 years ago the Israelites were racially of Semitic / African origin; whereas modern Freemasons, even those who claim to be of Jewish descent, are predominately racially Aryan / European; (i.e., they are not of Arabic / Semitic appearance). Further anti-propertyism / anti-monetarism (i.e., Communism) cannot be genetically inherited, it is an ideology. If within Freemasonry the ‘King of all the World’ was a Semitic anti-propertyist / anti-Capitalist who sought the liberation of the motherland (Africa) and the economic liberation of humanity from the slavery of Capitalism, the world today would be a very different world; it is simply not the case. The King of all the World has absolutely nothing to do with the ideological legacy of the revolutionaries of ancient Israel of the ilk of Jesus and the prophets; on the contrary the King of the World represents all that Jesus and the prophets hated, despised and cursed.

The origins of Solomonic magick have nothing to do with Jesus; they are much more ancient. See Graham Hancock – ‘Fingerprints Of The Gods,’ , in which he contends that the Egyptian culture is a remnant of an ancient and highly advanced civilisation which was destroyed in the last cataclysm (approx 10,000 B.C).

http://rapidshare.com/files/57066400/Graham_Hancock_-_Fingerprints_Of_The_Gods.pdf

See also, Michael Tsarion - Atlantis, Alien Visitation And Genetic Manipulation

http://rapidshare.com/files/57067146/Michael_Tsarion_-_Atlantis__Alien_Visitation_And_Genetic_Manipulati on.pdf

Tyrants, economic slavemasters and oppressors of the poor have often claimed to represent some historical martyr whom their forefathers murdered. They who are most evil must disguise themselves as good.

Although currently infiltrated and controlled to an extent by the cult of the King of all the World, it is the Communist / anti-Capitalist movement, the 911 truth movement, the neo-pagan movement and temporarily the militant Islamic movement which in my judgement has the power to undermine and resist his rule, and in the end they shall and must defeat him; however not without global nuclear war and rivers of blood; the King of all the world cannot be expected to simply surrender.

Love and Light

Your brother.

Comandante Lucifer

http://th05.deviantart.com/fs25/300W/f/2008/148/2/8/Sigil_of_Lucifer_by_Monation.jpg
Fire, plague and poisoned waters.

lux e tenebris. ordo ab chaos.

____________


http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif
War, Revolution….anything good but strong, etc.


References: further reading on Freemasonry, the Kabbalah, Solomonic Temple ritualism, ritual magick and on the ‘alternative history’ of ancient civilisations: a good collection for any researcher of the ancient mysteries can be found by following the links on the The Temple of Knowledge forum on:
http://galaksija.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2010&start=0

‘Perhaps the greatest myth of all is that myths are just myths’ <Michael Tsarion.

synergy777
12-05-2009, 06:20 PM
On the King of all the World and the Genetic and Esoteric roots of Freemasonry

Comandante Lucifer

http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif


War of Armageddon. World Communist Revolution. The Return to Year Zero.
The Final Revolutionary War of Economic Salvation.

Aeon of Light 2009


On the ‘DaVinci Code’

Michael Baigent, the editor of Freemasonry Today, unsuccessfully sued Dan Brown in the British courts for copying the central theme of his book 'Holy Blood and the Holy Grail; a central theme of which is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and begat a lineage which has been hidden behind various secret societies. While Baigent's book is not fiction, it is certainly relies on 'conspiracy theories' rather than historical evidence.

Sadducees

One of the weaknesses of this entire 'lineage' theory is that Jesus, the alleged son of a Sadducee (i.e., Zechariah), according to the Gospels, was executed at the request of the Sadducees, who placed a reward on Jesus for his arrest. The Sadducees 'were' the Solomonic temple priesthood of that age, just as Freemasonry today represents the Solomonic temple priesthood; wherever you go in the world it is the Freemasons who have a habit of building temples whose inner sanctum is always a copy of Solomon's temple, and they are clearly a Kabbalist cult of ritual magicians whose belief system stems from the ancient Israelites and the Egyptians

Anachronism (out of historical context).

It is a rather strange theory that having placed a reward for Jesus' arrest, that the Solomonic Temple priesthood would construct a religious cult around the lineage of Jesus. In addition to this, bear in mind that Jesus clearly despised the Sadducees and frequently cursed them. Thus the idea that modern Solomonic temple ritualism has within it the lineage of Jesus is clearly anachronistic revisionism. It is as if a cult whose forefathers were responsible for the execution of a martyr claimed to represent the martyr; this is not unknown however, since today for example Joan of Arc (whom the Catholics executed for witchcraft) is a Catholic saint.

Anti-thesis (opposite idea).

If one considers what Freemasonry today represents, they represent the economic and religious establishment, and yet Jesus is depicted as being an enemy of the economic and religious establishment of his age; the Masonic agenda is quite the opposite of that of the Jesus of the Gospels.

The Hiram Key.

Another 'historical conspiracy' work along the lines of 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' is the ‘Hiram Key,’ written by two Freemasons, Knight and Lomas, and offers a much more credible theory than Baigent's. Simply put, Knight and Lomas argue that the 'myth' of Hiram Abiff which is taught to all Freemasons in their first three degrees reveals the truth of both the historical lineage at the centre of Solomonic cultism, ‘and’ it’s priestly hierarchy. Much is revealed by the fact that etymologically (the historical roots of words) the term 'Hiram Abiff (Hiram: King, Abiff: secret, lost. hidden) is not a name but a title.

Secret King

I find it much more credible that within Freemasonry is a 'secret king' whose lineage is as Knight and Lomas argue; that of the Egyptian / Phonecian magickal aristocracy. Solomonic temple cultism / ritualism of course has absolutely nothing to do with resistance against the religious and economic establishment; on the contrary, it is exactly the opposite, it is about living in submission and obedience to such archons.

Power, Money and Esoteric (Secret) Knowledge.

What defines Freemasonry is the use of magick for the purpose of the acquiring power, money and esoteric knowledge; that was hardly the agenda of the numerous anti-establishment Jesus archetypes whom the Gospels were based upon.

Solomon.

Bear in mind also that Moses as described in the Torah was allegedly an anti-monarchist and a republican; he set up a non-monarchic system of 12 elected judges who in turn ruled over other judges. The period of Judges allegedly existed for 400 years or so after the alleged Egyptian slave revolution; it is not until Saul, David and his son Solomon that the Israelites reverted to tyranny (monarchy).'Solomon' is clearly portrayed as an 'evil king' whose religious faith represented everything that Moses had rebelled against, and who again instigated human sacrifice cultism (1 Kings 11: 7) and Phoenician Temple worship; whereas Moses and Joshua had a habit of raising such temples to the ground and submitting the priesthood and their cultists to genocide. By the time of the reformist king Josiah (who was executed by Pharaoh for executing the priesthood and the temple prostitutes, burning all idols, etc), the religion of the Israelites bore no resemblance to the Mosaic reforms and was little different to the cults of the surrounding regions; the fact that Pharoah could summon and execute Josiah for his religious reforms gives an insight into where the real religious and political power in the region lay.

The King of all the World.

For every slave a master and for every master a slave.</

If one accepts Knight and Lomas's arguments, it would appear that 'Solomon' was merely a 'puppet' king and that the 'real king' was an Egyptian / Phoenician magician / priest. The Book of Kings describes Hiram Abiff as a Pheonecian, but Knight and Lomas offer argument that he was in fact an Egyptian; either way his influence over the Israelites was not that of a fellow Israelite, but of a devotee of a ‘foreign (gentile)’ religion. Further extend this to the modern world and it would appear that the various public Grand Masters of the various Masonic rites and the various heads of states of the Capitalist world are little more than 'puppets' for the King of all the World whose 'lineage' has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus and Mary Magdalene; on the contrary.

The idea that the world is ruled by a very different set of persons that we read about in the press is a common belief held by numerous modern conspiracy theorists and historians; and it is a central theme of Freemasonry. We do not live in the 'republics' and 'monarchies' that many think we do, our political leaders must pay homage to the King of Kings; we live in an economic dictatorship ruled by an anonymous and hidden tyrant of tyrants, a magician (spiritualist) who represents all that the Christians, Muslims and Jews consider to be the Anti-Christ, Ad Dijall, Anti-Messiah.

It is commonly held by those who study secret societies that there is a general agenda for a ‘New World Order,’ a global neo-fascist police state, a one world government, a one world banking system, etc, along with global depopulation. However this would not be a ‘democracy’ nor a ‘republic,’ irrespective of whether there is any electoral process; it would simply be a dictatorship which represents the ‘Great Work of the Ages’ of the cult of the secret king.

On the last occasion that I went on a tour of London’s Grand Lodge, I discussed this matter briefly with the curator who was giving the tour; I asked him if he considered the Masonic Grand Master of Masters to be the Masonic equivalent of the Christian messiah; his reply was an instant ‘Of course.’ This matter is hardly now a secret. Global dictatorship is their agenda. There will come an age where there are only two choices, you will either have to be ‘for’ the state terrorists and their Grand Master, or against him. Any other position is that of confusion.

Legacy

2000 years ago the Israelite Diaspora spread throughout the Hellenic world, however many of these individuals were Hellenic converts; the concept of an 'Israelite race' was one that would have been anti-thetical to evangelical Israelites who sought to proselytise and 'covert;’ however today it is Jews of European descent who discriminate against Semites (such as the ‘Arabs’) and Semitic Jews. You will not find a single image however of any Egyptian slave depicted on the walls of Egypt who looks like the current blond haired, non-Semitic president of Israel; Pharaoh many have been an imperialist but he certainly did not capture German and Scandinavian slaves. What you will find in Egyptian art is a record of slaves of African (i.e., black Nubians) and North African Semitic appearance. 2000 years ago the Israelites in Israel would have been Semites (i.e., of Arabic appearance)

2000 years ago, among the Israelite diaspora, in a rather brutal warlike, imperialistic ‘slave’ society with an extreme division between the slavemasters and the common people in the Hellenic world, the Israelite faith, like the early Christian faith in it’s first 300 years would have appealed to those who were at the bottom of the economic food chain. With a new extended family and often a new name, they would have found not only a faith but love and companionship and acceptance irrespective of social class in a faith originating in ‘slave revolution,’ whose prophets were not divine emperors but rather those who cried out against the tyrants and oppressors of the poor of their age.

In summary, a central problem I have with Dan Brown and Baigent’s racial ‘Jesus lineage’ theory is that it creates confusion about a very important issue. 2000 years ago the Israelites were racially of Semitic / African origin; whereas modern Freemasons, even those who claim to be of Jewish descent, are predominately racially Aryan / European; (i.e., they are not of Arabic / Semitic appearance). Further anti-propertyism / anti-monetarism (i.e., Communism) cannot be genetically inherited, it is an ideology. If within Freemasonry the ‘King of all the World’ was a Semitic anti-propertyist / anti-Capitalist who sought the liberation of the motherland (Africa) and the economic liberation of humanity from the slavery of Capitalism, the world today would be a very different world; it is simply not the case. The King of all the World has absolutely nothing to do with the ideological legacy of the revolutionaries of ancient Israel of the ilk of Jesus and the prophets; on the contrary the King of the World represents all that Jesus and the prophets hated, despised and cursed.

The origins of Solomonic magick have nothing to do with Jesus; they are much more ancient. See Graham Hancock – ‘Fingerprints Of The Gods,’ , in which he contends that the Egyptian culture is a remnant of an ancient and highly advanced civilisation which was destroyed in the last cataclysm (approx 10,000 B.C).

http://rapidshare.com/files/57066400/Graham_Hancock_-_Fingerprints_Of_The_Gods.pdf

See also, Michael Tsarion - Atlantis, Alien Visitation And Genetic Manipulation

http://rapidshare.com/files/57067146/Michael_Tsarion_-_Atlantis__Alien_Visitation_And_Genetic_Manipulati on.pdf

Tyrants, economic slavemasters and oppressors of the poor have often claimed to represent some historical martyr whom their forefathers murdered. They who are most evil must disguise themselves as good.

Although currently infiltrated and controlled to an extent by the cult of the King of all the World, it is the Communist / anti-Capitalist movement, the 911 truth movement, the neo-pagan movement and temporarily the militant Islamic movement which in my judgement has the power to undermine and resist his rule, and in the end they shall and must defeat him; however not without global nuclear war and rivers of blood; the King of all the world cannot be expected to simply surrender.

Love and Light

Your brother.

Comandante Lucifer

http://th05.deviantart.com/fs25/300W/f/2008/148/2/8/Sigil_of_Lucifer_by_Monation.jpg
Fire, plague and poisoned waters.

lux e tenebris. ordo ab chaos.

____________


http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif
War, Revolution….anything good but strong, etc.


References: further reading on Freemasonry, the Kabbalah, Solomonic Temple ritualism, ritual magick and on the ‘alternative history’ of ancient civilisations: a good collection for any researcher of the ancient mysteries can be found by following the links on the The Temple of Knowledge forum on:
http://galaksija.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2010&start=0

‘Perhaps the greatest myth of all is that myths are just myths’ <Michael Tsarion.

thats one of the best posts i have read recently. you cover a range of topics, with accuracy and clarity. thanks for the post, and the pdf's.

zero1
12-05-2009, 06:25 PM
thats one of the best posts i have read recently. you cover a range of topics, with accuracy and clarity. thanks for the post, and the pdf's.

Agreed, second that.

synergy777
12-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Agreed, second that.

we need more posters like that, people who bring quality to the forum. people who challenge and develop topics

zero1
12-05-2009, 06:48 PM
we need more posters like that, people who bring quality to the forum. people who challenge and develop topics.

Absolutely, Syn.

Lucifer comes here and shames the vast majority of posters by displaying his abundant intellect and experience (he's 50 or thereabouts) gracefully on an interesting variety of topics, and declares himself an anarcho-communist unabashedly. That kind of person demands respect, and from me he'll get it.

Free Speach and Liberty are not just concepts/ideals, they're realities we all need to exercise and use.

synergy777
12-05-2009, 07:59 PM
Absolutely, Syn.

Lucifer comes here and shames the vast majority of posters by displaying his abundant intellect and experience (he's 50 or thereabouts) gracefully on an interesting variety of topics, and declares himself an anarcho-communist unabashedly. That kind of person demands respect, and from me he'll get it.

Free Speach and Liberty are not just concepts/ideals, they're realities we all need to exercise and use.

well said zero.

also lets be honest with ourselves.

first we talk about democracy, liberal ideas, freedom of speech, freedom of expression.

then we have to allow it for everyone, especially people we don't see eye to eye with.

we cannot stop people with different views from ours, from expressing themselves freely.

secondly, we all have different religous/spiritual views.

thus whatever our beliefs are, we need to try our best in living up to those values. thus as we are all far from perfect/saints, we shouldn't have this holier than thou attitude. if we believe in compassion, love for everyone, then we need to show this compassion/love to everyone.

thus whether i agree with you or not, i will allow you to express your views freely, and will show compassion/love to you aswell.

its hard, and i have difficulty in doing this at times, but i, in order to improve/develop myself, have to overcome these personal weaknesses eg anger, pride, revenge, arrogance etc.

thus i aim to treat everyone with these values, these values that i personally believe/subscribe to.

these values of freedom/equality and compassion/love.

its easy to be nice to people we like and agree with.

the real test is being nice to people we don't agree with, people we don't like.

evil begets evil, hence love your enemies, as only love can conquer hate.

its not easy, its annoyingly hard, it at times proper pisses me off. the times when in the past i would love to have had an arguement, etc, now i try to be a better person by allowing freedom of expression and being compassionate, this way i develop myself, rathering than just paying lip service to ideals i like.

we only find ourselves, in the testing times, thats when the real us comes out, thats when we see ourselves clearly.

--------------------------------------------

anyway back to the topic, lol

i belive the vatican/illuminati/nwo, whatever you want to call it are all just different sections of the same organisation. what we are having in angels and demon is marketing, controlled oppostion, predictive programming etc.

they make the illuminati look bad, by trying to fight against the vatican, thus people support the vatican. they make the vatican look evil, and the illuminati as good, then people support the illuminati.

when both are bad, the vatican is corrupt, and illuminati is trademark/fashionable name in todays cyber conspiracy circles. i prefer the new world order, as thats what the politicans use, eg bush, brown have used in in public, on tv. the biblical term would be the synagogue of satan, the 7 headed dragon, babylon etc.

mr brown is a "fictional" writer, he uses some truths, but is hardly a credible historian. its the whole coffee table/coffee shop intellectuals, people who want to apprear smart, but without the hardwork or the painful questions.

the painful questions that are created from introspection and objectivity, eg if jesus is real, then what about other parts of the bible eg fallen angels, new world order, tower of babel/eu.

also if the bible has lies in it, what is the real truth, why are there lies in the bible etc.

this then leads one into history of empires eg rome/vatican, egypt, babylon/iraq etc..

this then leads to people like us, lol

octopusrex
12-05-2009, 09:07 PM
I've been dabbling with O.T.O and their friends A.A. and others for AGES. They are nice enough folks, but sneaky as snakes.

Give me a good peyote and let me see what's up. I don't need me no "friends" to tell me what is real and what is memorex.

1977
12-05-2009, 09:36 PM
One of the weaknesses of this entire 'lineage' theory is that Jesus, the alleged son of a Sadducee (i.e., Zechariah), according to the Gospels, was executed at the request of the Sadducees, who placed a reward on Jesus for his arrest. The Sadducees 'were' the Solomonic temple priesthood of that age, just as Freemasonry today represents the Solomonic temple priesthood; wherever you go in the world it is the Freemasons who have a habit of building temples whose inner sanctum is always a copy of Solomon's temple, and they are clearly a Kabbalist cult of ritual magicians whose belief system stems from the ancient Israelites and the Egyptians
The Masons have claimed descent from the Essenes. It's no wonder they consider Jesus to be one of their own!

zero1
12-05-2009, 09:55 PM
anyway back to the topic, lol

i belive the vatican/illuminati/nwo, whatever you want to call it are all just different sections of the same organisation. what we are having in angels and demon is marketing, controlled oppostion, predictive programming etc.

they make the illuminati look bad, by trying to fight against the vatican, thus people support the vatican. they make the vatican look evil, and the illuminati as good, then people support the illuminati.

when both are bad, the vatican is corrupt, and illuminati is trademark/fashionable name in todays cyber conspiracy circles. i prefer the new world order, as thats what the politicans use, eg bush, brown have used in in public, on tv. the biblical term would be the synagogue of satan, the 7 headed dragon, babylon etc.

mr brown is a "fictional" writer, he uses some truths, but is hardly a credible historian. its the whole coffee table/coffee shop intellectuals, people who want to apprear smart, but without the hardwork or the painful questions.




True.

But did you know, it was discussed on Alex Jones the other day, that the twist @ the end of Brown's Angels & Demons movie is that it turns out there really is no "Illuminati", that the Bavarian Illuminati from mainstream history were the real Illuminati and when they perished there was no illuminati anymore, it's all a conspiracy theory. The movie's real villain is simply an embittered Archbishop who spread disinfo about the Illuminati wanting to blow up the Vatican to decieve enemies inside and outside the Vatican.

the painful questions that are created from introspection and objectivity, eg if jesus is real, then what about other parts of the bible eg fallen angels, new world order, tower of babel/eu.

also if the bible has lies in it, what is the real truth, why are there lies in the bible etc.

this then leads one into history of empires eg rome/vatican, egypt, babylon/iraq etc..

this then leads to people like us, lol

Hehe, it sure does...:)

vinnyharris
12-05-2009, 10:56 PM
I'm curious to see the movie ... they were discussing it on the tele over the weekend

chadwick
13-05-2009, 12:16 AM
it's an entertaining book and i was hoping they would make a movie based on it. But that's as far as it goes with me, just plain old good entertainment, no different than Jurassic Park or a James Bond flick. cheers !

adbasque
13-05-2009, 08:34 AM
I allways liked the old pope Ivan PavaoII ( eng. John Paul II), even I'm not chatolic...and this new looks like evil inside...I'm scared of him!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1570/papabenediktxviv.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papabenediktxviv.jpg)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2508/papaivan.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaivan.jpg)

look their eyes...eyes are a mirror of a soul...doesn't Benedict looks like a devil inside??

You liked the old pope?
They are all evil, all working for the same master, what's the matter with you?
I could see hypocrisy and evil in the John Paul the II, don't be naive

boots
13-05-2009, 09:27 AM
Just recently a friend of mine told me that she has a friend who is archeologist and works for a long time in Vatican....and that friend told her that when this new pope Benedict XVI was ellected, this was purely political desigion....she said that there were a lot better "candidats" but it looks like Benedict was the choosen one from who know who....

I allways liked the old pope Ivan PavaoII ( eng. John Paul II), even I'm not chatolic...and this new looks like evil inside...I'm scared of him!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1570/papabenediktxviv.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papabenediktxviv.jpg)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2508/papaivan.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaivan.jpg)

look their eyes...eyes are a mirror of a soul...doesn't Benedict looks like a devil inside??


http://www.exposingsatanism.org/illuminati-vatican-gods-banker.htm

This is the only pope that was a man of substance and a true Christian.

He was poisoned 33 days after taking the papacy.

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/1262/2/l36653102108_9748.jpg

Then Pope John Paul ll took over and it reverted back to the same old business as usual. With P2 pulling the strings.

You wont find any Masons talking about this scandal as it exposes the machinations of the high order and the NWO groups.

Here's the Angel ^ the rest are Demons.

.

ytch
14-05-2009, 03:18 PM
Just recently a friend of mine told me that she has a friend who is archeologist and works for a long time in Vatican....and that friend told her that when this new pope Benedict XVI was ellected, this was purely political desigion....she said that there were a lot better "candidats" but it looks like Benedict was the choosen one from who know who....

I allways liked the old pope Ivan PavaoII ( eng. John Paul II), even I'm not chatolic...and this new looks like evil inside...I'm scared of him!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1570/papabenediktxviv.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papabenediktxviv.jpg)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2508/papaivan.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaivan.jpg)

look their eyes...eyes are a mirror of a soul...doesn't Benedict looks like a devil inside??

Benedictus, the good german shepherd?

Well, when I first heard that he became pope I was laughing out loud,
I mean, how obvious can it get?

This guy is pure evil, check his background
and check some pictures of him.

Show me a single one where he looks like good, friendly, or
like an acceptable messenger of "GOD"....

Which god, I ask myself, could he possibly represent?

Not mine, that´s for sure...

And back to the movies,

it is pure disinfo as usual, it will work as usual, sheeple gonna be sheeple,

as long as they don´t realize
that WE ARE THE WOLvES IN SHEEP CLOTHING,
so wake up and take a bite!

Our shepherds and sheep- dogs know that they are about to lose control,
let´s have some fun and wake up others on a daily base

Love and ludacrissism,

ytch
(marks the spot)

hagbard_celine
15-05-2009, 10:49 AM
Just recently a friend of mine told me that she has a friend who is archeologist and works for a long time in Vatican....and that friend told her that when this new pope Benedict XVI was ellected, this was purely political desigion....she said that there were a lot better "candidats" but it looks like Benedict was the choosen one from who know who....

I allways liked the old pope Ivan PavaoII ( eng. John Paul II), even I'm not chatolic...and this new looks like evil inside...I'm scared of him!

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1570/papabenediktxviv.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papabenediktxviv.jpg)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2508/papaivan.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaivan.jpg)

look their eyes...eyes are a mirror of a soul...doesn't Benedict looks like a devil inside??

I was actually reading Angels and Demons at the time Pope Benedict was elected so it linked the book to a real setting and made the scenario feel very vivid.:cool:

cheeney1
15-05-2009, 11:51 AM
I was born from the grail, and accept who I am, but those who would define what this means for me are unworthy... they have been weighed in the scales and found wanting.

You what!!!!! this Statement makes no sence whats so ever :confused: