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pleasuredome
09-05-2009, 02:15 PM
from the headlines page...
LAW OF THE LAND? … OR LAW OF THE SEA?
The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday
It is Common Law, the law of the land, that refers to the living, breathing, human being while Statute Law, or Maritime Law, the law of the sea, is the law of contracts that applies to commerce and corporations. So the purveyors of Statute Law, which is produced by governments and parliaments, had to invent fake ‘persons’ – corporations – to which their fake ‘laws’ could apply.
This is the ‘Straw Man’, a legal fiction, which is created using your name in all capital letters. So david icke and other variations, like David: Icke and David-Vaughan: of the Icke family, are, under Common Law, the living, breathing, human being with a soul and DAVID ICKE is the legal fiction corporation/trust created to fall under the jurisdiction of Statute Law.
Notice that when government, law enforcement, legal and financial agencies etc. communicate with you they invariably write your name in all capital letters. This is because they are not writing to you, the living being, but to the fake ‘Straw Man’ corporation that is created in your upper-case name when you are born.
The trick is to keep you believing throughout your life that david icke and DAVID ICKE mean the same thing. They don't.
It is vital to understand that governments, your local council, courts, police force and so on are private companies and corporations. If you check this out with Dun and Bradstreet, which provides credit information on businesses and corporations worldwide, you can confirm this.
According to Veronica: Chapman’s research, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION and THE UNITED KINGDOM CORPORATION are in what is called Chapter 11 bankruptcy. This is a state of bankruptcy which …
‘… allows businesses to reorganize themselves, giving them an opportunity to restructure debt and get out from under certain burdensome leases and contracts. Typically a business is allowed to continue to operate while it is in Chapter 11, although it does so under the supervision of the Bankruptcy Court and its appointees.’
So who controls the ‘Bankruptcy Court and its appointees’ that are currently ‘supervising’ the ‘government’ corporations of the United States and United Kingdom? Try the House of Rothschild and its international banking cabal.
i think if david gets his teeth into this stuff it could help spread this info much more quickly to a wider audience, which will give the "authorities" a right headache :D
cafetimes1991
09-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Read this morning. Very interesting. :)
ownoiz
09-05-2009, 02:53 PM
Good to see that.
This is the ‘Straw Man’, a legal fiction, which is created using your name in all capital letters. So david icke and other variations, like David: Icke and David-Vaughan: of the Icke family, are, under Common Law, the living, breathing, human being with a soul and DAVID ICKE is the legal fiction corporation/trust created to fall under the jurisdiction of Statute Law.
Notice that when government, law enforcement, legal and financial agencies etc. communicate with you they invariably write your name in all capital letters. This is because they are not writing to you, the living being, but to the fake ‘Straw Man’ corporation that is created in your upper-case name when you are born.
When i started noticing all of this, its everywhere. I cant even send some registered post in the mail without signing a contract which requires your name in block capitals. Everything is a binding contract. Our first one is signed by our parents when we are born, and then most of us, we just keep on a signing.
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girlgye
09-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Good to see that.
When i started noticing all of this, its everywhere. I cant even send some registered post in the mail without signing a contract which requires your name in block capitals. Everything is a binding contract. Our first one is signed by our parents when we are born, and then most of us, we just keep on a signing.
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Own noiz I love this pic on your profile. It's hilarious. Heavy film dude.
ownoiz
09-05-2009, 04:53 PM
Heavy and hilarious at the same time...
"I dont want his pork chop, i want his life"
Cheers girlgye
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Good to see it on the headline page . But I'm sure he has given this info before . Regarding Admiralty law and how signing our names in upper case denotes a legal fiction based upon yourself .however with the freeman movement taking off it's good to keep it in the pulic arena :D
alisa2
09-05-2009, 06:32 PM
Ownoiz said : Everything is a binding contract. Our first one is signed by our parents when we are born, and then most of us, we just keep on a signing.
Correction. Everything is a PRESUMED contract, or PRESUMED jurisdiction or PRESUMED SOVEREIGNTY over THE PEOPLE. Such jurisdiction is a PRESUMPTION and a FICTION, and once repudiated, must thereafter be proved to exist.
pleasuredome
09-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Ownoiz said :
Correction. Everything is a PRESUMED contract, or PRESUMED jurisdiction or PRESUMED SOVEREIGNTY over THE PEOPLE. Such jurisdiction is a PRESUMPTION and a FICTION, and once repudiated, must thereafter be proved to exist.
thats one correction that reads so good, i could almost lift off the screen and eat for desert! :)
alisa2
09-05-2009, 07:44 PM
Glad you liked it, pleasuredome.
Presumption is one the greatest tools for unlawful control. But how DARE they presume anything about anyone. As you can see below, in law, anyone, including the lawmakers, can presume anything about you. That's how the courts and the lawmakers stay in business.
Presumption. 6. Law. an inference required or permitted by law as to the existence of one fact from proof of the existence of other facts.
ownoiz
10-05-2009, 01:22 AM
Ownoiz said :
Correction. Everything is a PRESUMED contract, or PRESUMED jurisdiction or PRESUMED SOVEREIGNTY over THE PEOPLE. Such jurisdiction is a PRESUMPTION and a FICTION
Thankyou for correcting my mistake.
I stand corrected :)
and once repudiated, must thereafter be proved to exist.
The problem is, where i come from, the government and courts dont do much proving, they like to trick people with laws they write up that arent even really laws, lock people up and throw away the keys (their words) and once your locked up, and the Crown has their representatives at every level, including crooked defense lawyers, its difficult to get out of the matrix.
Heres but one example of where the shite is really hitting the fan
using individual control orders that ban individuals from contacting certain people and attending specific places. (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25454296-5006301,00.html)
This is going to result in many people being incarcerated when they shouldnt be.
And these so called laws apply to every person in the State, the "gang" part of it is just P>R>S to sell it to the masses, there is no mention of "gangs" or "bikies" etc in the legislation write ups, so by their definitions it can be applied to any two or more individuals who meet or are involved in an "organisation" or "club"
For example two or more people involved in a truth movement club can be outlawed and incarcerated.
But the government will get what it wants because the masses believe these laws are for "bikies" and "criminal organisations" when in reality they will apply to EVERYONE.
I have a long road to travel with freeman knowledge and law but i will continue to wrap my head around it whenever i have time.
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alisa2
10-05-2009, 03:23 AM
But the government will get what it wants because the masses believe these laws are for "bikies" and "criminal organisations" when in reality they will apply to EVERYONE.
Yeah, the government gets what it wants because the masses BELIEVE those laws apply to everyone. What else is new? Ignorance abounds, thanks to public education and the media.
“We are being deceived. We are being lied to. We are being sold an
utterly fraudulent reality on a daily basis by the corporate news
media outlets.
And if you sit down each day to consume the news on TV you are party
to your own deception.
"I can't be deceived," you may say. "I can make up my own mind,"
You do have the power to make your own decisions but the news media
still has the power to limit and contain the decisions you make if you
let them.
Click this link to read about how the media works to limit and
contain your decisions:
http://socialviability.com/news-media-deception.html
tien an
10-05-2009, 06:43 AM
"I can't be deceived," you may say. "I can make up my own mind,"
You do have the power to make your own decisions but the news media
still has the power to limit and contain the decisions you make if you
let them.
Click this link to read about how the media works to limit and
contain your decisions:
http://socialviability.com/news-media-deception.html
Thanks for that alisa2, very informative.
Heavenly Peace
tien an.
cafetimes1991
10-05-2009, 09:17 AM
Read the full newsletter this morning. Again, very interesting.
alternative_answer
10-05-2009, 11:39 AM
Excellent article from Icke and a long time coming, I have interested parties who are willing to fund research into this subject matter and take it out there on a massive scale.
yozhik
10-05-2009, 12:47 PM
Excellent article from Icke and a long time coming, I have interested parties who are willing to fund research into this subject matter and take it out there on a massive scale.
The best avenue for their support is TPUC.
A lot of research has been done and continues to be done, by this small group of freedom fighters. :)
Rather than reinvent the wheel; better to improve that which already exists.
merlincove
10-05-2009, 05:24 PM
The best avenue for their support is TPUC.
A lot of research has been done and continues to be done, by this small group of freedom fighters. :)
Rather than reinvent the wheel; better to improve that which already exists.
Nice that david: icke links to John's and veronica's sites too :-)
Tho john did say that the whole name in capitals thing is an illussion, dissinfo. And david does linger on that fact, tho perhaps in a way to get the msg across :-)
liked his maritime thing too, though yeah he has spoken about that before, so it is good to see the two things (altho not seperate) put together in a brief discussion. Will be interesting to see if david talks about this in his shows / talks
alisa2
10-05-2009, 08:35 PM
Ownoiz said: The problem is, where i come from, the government and courts dont do much proving, they like to trick people with laws they write up that arent even really laws, lock people up and throw away the keys (their words) and once your locked up, and the Crown has their representatives at every level, including crooked defense lawyers, its difficult to get out of the matrix.
You are right about that. It is difficult to get out of the matrix, especially if you work for a company or corporation--it's no different from working for the government: Everyone there is a fiction, and no one there will listen to you otherwise.
Freeman-on-the-land documents mean absolutely nothing in the workplace/corporation. The message they give you is: If you want to argue, take it court where your all of your all-capital name knowledge will be put to the test. Even the most knowledgeable don't pass.
vladmir
11-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Oh reading this is so exciting!!! as the possibilities of breaking free from the chains is clearly seen oncewe can see the chains....
i love this freeman-on-the-land forum...........
malvern
11-05-2009, 08:45 AM
so DI now say it's ok ....well infact he has talked before on the strawman , banking system and the law , but not the freeman.
david might have pointed others this way, but it will leave us answering thier question. we better be ready for the noobs and those question again ....:D
freedom is the grandchildren we are the caretakers
the worm that turned
11-05-2009, 01:05 PM
so DI now say it's ok ....well infact he has talked before on the strawman , banking system and the law , but not the freeman.
david might have pointed others this way, but it will leave us answering thier question. we better be ready for the noobs and those question again ....:D
freedom is the grandchildren we are the caretakers
David mentions this in one of his books (can't remember which but either the The Biggest Secret or ...and The Truth Shall Set You Free) where he talks about a speeding fine being in all caps and the "person" asking for the POLICyEnforcers to address him as John Doe, not JOHN DOE.
Is there a one stop shop UK website that clearly explains the Freeman principles in nice friendly (idiot proof) words, with a well structured FAQs section? If not there should be.
BTW I know about TPUC, Thinkfree.ca and the FMOTL site, but I do not feel these are what is needed to help noobs and therefore enable this to pick up the momentum it needs and with the speed it needs.
You can be certain that PEOPLE within the government are looking at ways to close the likes of us down as we speak (type). The same PEOPLE whos wages are being paid for by us!!!
yozhik
11-05-2009, 02:05 PM
so DI now say it's ok ....well infact he has talked before on the strawman , banking system and the law , but not the freeman.
david might have pointed others this way, but it will leave us answering thier question. we better be ready for the noobs and those question again ....:D
freedom is the grandchildren we are the caretakers
... and my standard answer will be;
Read this forum in its entirety.
There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in this forum, which is wholly dedicated to this very subject; just waiting ... waiting ... for you to discover all that it holds and all that it reveals.
Don't be lazy. Freedom is not a prize deserved by the apathetic.
If you have questions AFTER making an effort; ask them then ... and only then.
If I give you a map and share some photos of the sites along the way; does it mean that you too have taken the journey?
The journey IS the experience ... the journey completed is the knowledge.
malvern
12-05-2009, 09:39 AM
... and my standard answer will be;
Read this forum in its entirety.
There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in this forum, which is wholly dedicated to this very subject; just waiting ... waiting ... for you to discover all that it holds and all that it reveals.
Don't be lazy. Freedom is not a prize deserved by the apathetic.
If you have questions AFTER making an effort; ask them then ... and only then.
If I give you a map and share some photos of the sites along the way; does it mean that you too have taken the journey?
The journey IS the experience ... the journey completed is the knowledge.
this is so true.... a friend kept asking me for bite size reading ....but it would be of no value , first he needed to understand the bigger picture. Now the penny has dropped everything fits in it's place and is a lot easier for him to understand ...your journey example does sum it up.... i bet you have some nice pics
freedom is the grandchildren we are the caretakers
stickwhistler
12-05-2009, 03:06 PM
... and my standard answer will be;
Read this forum in its entirety.
There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in this forum, which is wholly dedicated to this very subject; just waiting ... waiting ... for you to discover all that it holds and all that it reveals.
Don't be lazy. Freedom is not a prize deserved by the apathetic.
If you have questions AFTER making an effort; ask them then ... and only then.
If I give you a map and share some photos of the sites along the way; does it mean that you too have taken the journey?
The journey IS the experience ... the journey completed is the knowledge.
Great reply. Applause. :)