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hagbard_celine
19-07-2007, 08:59 PM
In Glasgow, four-year-old Cameron has lived his whole life with vivid memories of a previous life as a boy on the remote island of Barra.
I wasn't surprised to see Chris French there. However when I looked at his sleeve I could see that he'd forgotten to put on his MBA (Materialist Bravery Award) medal. I must have a word with the Channel 4 wardrobe department! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5cGSUBU8-w
harbingers_kiss
19-07-2007, 11:27 PM
Although I don't believe in "past lives", when my daughter was a baby, she started speaking in a language other than English. I did'nt know what it was, sounded like something African. Thought she was just making it up. It was interesting though. The words did'nt change and she would argue with me over what things were called, adamant her words were the correct ones.
When she was about 15, she did a search on the intenet based on the words we remembered she used to speak as a child. Turned out the words matched the Somalian language of east africa. I still don't beleive in past lives, but clearly something was going on.
joe dolan
19-07-2007, 11:45 PM
there is a world famous story about a chinese woman went to see a hypontherapist because she couldnt swallow tablets etc.. the therapy was conducted with the help of an interpretor. after some searching the therapist could not find the cause of her problem. so have gave the suggestion in hypnosis..ok, go back to where it all started. SHE STARTED TO SPEAK IN ENGLISH!!! It seems she was a british soldier hundreds of years ago who died by being stabbed in the neck. i heard this on coast to coast am (george noory) and the hypnotherapist should you need to hear yourself was Dr. brian weiss. the interview was around september 2003. and is still there in the archives. WOW!!!
ashyr
20-07-2007, 01:14 AM
and some say my thread on c-section's are nonsense .
hahah yet here is a different tact and a different thread describing some of the things that can be associated with c-sections.
can i ask. were any of these children c-sections? did they avoid the light on birth, if at all can they remember that?
joe dolan
20-07-2007, 01:19 AM
im interested. please post a link on the thread on c sections you mention. thx
ashyr
20-07-2007, 01:32 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=5989
ashyr
20-07-2007, 02:02 AM
ill have to goto my uni to watch that video. my 3g fone cant handle it.
btw ive hacked my fone to the max. haha no credit yet i can msn/irc/email/internet etc all for free .. im so awesome =D
harbingers_kiss
20-07-2007, 02:29 AM
My daughter was not a c-section. She not only began speaking in Somalian, she also had vivid dreams about WW2 before she was even old enough to know about it. As a child, I also spoke foreign languages in my sleep. I was not a c-section either. I will hit that link too though, it does sound interesting.
ashyr
20-07-2007, 04:17 AM
wow. Im not saying entierly or even fractionally that c-section kids are different in a paranormal sense. but others maybe i am im suggesting that a little to much.
more i was aiming to have that thread were we could find out about the differences in life from c-sections to natural birth, someone soon will reply with a 3rd way of being BIRTHED. for there is always a 3rd.
exclamatio
20-07-2007, 03:22 PM
i personally have a few memories from past lives that i have spent time researching, it's interesting stuff
according to my partner i talk a lot in my sleep too however rarely in english
now i am english but i speak a little german and even less japanese but i dont speak in any of these while im asleep, i can hold full conversations including laughter, shouting, whispering etc in what apparently sounds like egyptian, very strange indeed
smoking oceanus
20-07-2007, 03:38 PM
Ive been hearing stories of people who go into comas and when they wake up they can speak another language fluently.
I think i remember one story of a Mexican woman who could only speak Spanish, she got into accident and put her into a coma. When she woke up she could speak fluent English.
misscpb
20-07-2007, 03:53 PM
there is a world famous story about a chinese woman went to see a hypontherapist because she couldnt swallow tablets etc.. the therapy was conducted with the help of an interpretor. after some searching the therapist could not find the cause of her problem. so have gave the suggestion in hypnosis..ok, go back to where it all started. SHE STARTED TO SPEAK IN ENGLISH!!! It seems she was a british soldier hundreds of years ago who died by being stabbed in the neck. i heard this on coast to coast am (george noory) and the hypnotherapist should you need to hear yourself was Dr. brian weiss. the interview was around september 2003. and is still there in the archives. WOW!!!
Sounds great, I am a believer in past lifes very much ;)
ashyr
20-07-2007, 05:44 PM
ever thought you could have been "Ernest Rutherfords" left leg?
neutron flux
20-07-2007, 08:59 PM
Here's another case of a 4 year old who claims to be the reincarnation of an astronaut who died in the Columbia shuttle disaster in 2003:
Khurja (Uttar Pradesh), July 07: A four-year-old girl who claims her name is Kalpana Chawla and that she died up in the skies four years ago is drawing huge crowds in a village here in Uttar Pradesh.
Residents of Nar Mohammadpur village, about 35 km from here, where little Upasana is visiting her relatives, think she might be the reincarnation of the India born astronaut Kalpana Chawla, who died when US space shuttle Columbia crashed four years ago.
The news of the girl`s claim spread quickly in the area after she spoke to some villagers here.
`I am Kalpana Chawla,` says Upasana, who reportedly fears the sight an aircraft. She has been telling her illiterate parents that she died in a `crash` up in the skies.
`Upasana has been telling us ever since she started speaking that her name was Kalpana Chawla and that her father`s name was Banarsi Das Chawla but we could not figure out anything as we had never heard of Kalpana,` Upasana`s father Raj Kumar told reporters Friday.
Raj Kumar is a resident of Pata village of Etawah district where he works as a labourer.
`Yet Upasana`s proclamation led us all to believe that she was actually talking about her previous birth,` he said. `She claims that the spacecraft was hit by a huge ball of ice that sent it crashing and ended her life.`
Upasana was born barely two months after the astronaut`s death in 2003.
http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?rep=2&aid=381305&sid=LIF&ssid=68
indigo
20-07-2007, 11:53 PM
Amazing stories. I believe in past lives too, but i don't want to believe in them, I don't want to come back in this world:mad: I think I've been here too many times and I'm getting bored.:cool:
harbingers_kiss
21-07-2007, 03:24 AM
Nelia, past lives did'nt sit well with me either but the evidence SEEMS to indicate they exist. I wrote an article awhile back with a thoery I've got that might make you smile. I posted this theory in the c-section thread (the thread meandered a bit) It's on page 8.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5989&page=8
ashyr
21-07-2007, 03:38 AM
where are the agents to fix this anomaly?
harbingers_kiss
21-07-2007, 03:44 AM
:confused:
infinitetruth
21-07-2007, 09:13 PM
What an interesting documentary! I wish there had been a bit more research into the Robertson Family though. It was freaky that he knew the details of the house and the dog and the gate to the beach. His reaction to the house got me really upset actually, you could nearly feel his emotions it was quite disturbing.
Great find!
indigo
21-07-2007, 10:19 PM
Nelia, past lives did'nt sit well with me either but the evidence SEEMS to indicate they exist. I wrote an article awhile back with a thoery I've got that might make you smile. I posted this theory in the c-section thread (the thread meandered a bit) It's on page 8.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5989&page=8I read the thread but couldn't see the article, could you put in on again please?
hagbard_celine
21-07-2007, 10:54 PM
Here's another case of a 4 year old who claims to be the reincarnation of an astronaut who died in the Columbia shuttle disaster in 2003:
http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?rep=2&aid=381305&sid=LIF&ssid=68
That's very interesting. Indian culture is much more inclined to take reincarnation seriously so cases like this are far more common.
soundist
22-07-2007, 11:22 PM
Did enyone else get the feeling that the woman relative that thay traced didnt want to say anything. I think the boys information was just to acurate for him not to be right. Maybe somthing happend that she didnt want enyone to know?
Its a shame it didnt give more information about what he was doing before he "fell through".
hagbard_celine
24-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Did enyone else get the feeling that the woman relative that thay traced didnt want to say anything. I think the boys information was just to acurate for him not to be right. Maybe somthing happend that she didnt want enyone to know?
Its a shame it didnt give more information about what he was doing before he "fell through".
Maybe he did. ;) And I agree with you over the relative.
I guess there's a limit on how controversial the TV networks are willing to be. I wouldn't mind looking at the outtakes of that film!:cool:
soundist
25-07-2007, 12:07 AM
Yes, i would like to have a look at the outtakes too.
Does enyone know of these?
I find it an especially intresting subject, past lives.
Im planing on looking into finding out about mine.
Maybe he did.
Do you know if he did?
Is there more about this story enywhere?
Maybe somone here could see if thay can find out more on the relative?
That would be intresting, if it could lead to more information about the
other relatives then maybe it could shed more light on the subject.
soundist
27-07-2007, 04:10 AM
Hi all, ive done a litle bit of loking and ive found a number of links.
This is an article by a Dr Jackie Jones-Hunt BAhons., PGDipCG., MPhil., PHD
The main site looks a bit new age ish tho
http://www.jackiejoneshunt.co.uk/articles/article11.html
Here is jim tuckers website, he also has a book out it seems to show.
http://lifebeforelife.com/
This is a skeptic go at the film, i didnt see the programs makers
trying to play down any other rational explanaitons, the denial
of some of these skeptics is saddening.
http://theskepticexpress.com/the_boy_who_lived_before.php
This is an article that gos into rebirth, thay site a number of cases,
including camerons.
http://lotusborn.wordpress.com/
This is a site about barra, thay have a news archive, but i couldnt get to there main page. I havnt looked into this site yet.
http://www.isleofbarra.com/news/archive10.html
Here is a link to download a pdf document i found.
latest7.co.uk/pdfs/289/?Latest7_289.pdf
Here is a good looking forum list of a site.
It turn up in google but the url was a news one (rss2.php).
So i typed its url in minus the last bit.
The firs url is what i typed in, and just got a forum list (looks good mind)
http://www.alienufosecret.eu/forum/
And the second one is the full link from google.
www.alienufosecret.eu/forum/rss2.php
This is a sun article.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001290023-2006410683,,00.html
Another article.
http://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/reincarnation.html
heres another one, it mentions about a black car near the end.
http://www.ianlawton.com/cpl2.htm
Another article, but it looks more intresting.
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=4244
This looks like a disscustion on reincarnation.
http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=2684
And these last two links are what else turnd up in my google searches,
i only checked the first two or three pages so have fun looking.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Norma+Macauley+Camereon+Macauley&btnG=Search&hl=en
barra car accident Shane Robertson - Google Search
If enyone else comes up with eny more info then please post it here.
hagbard_celine
27-07-2007, 09:15 AM
Thanks, soundist.
This is a deep and fascinating subject. Stories of past-life memories often contain inconsistancies, which is the case with Cameron, but they paradoxically contain too many consistancies to support the fantasy or coincidence explanation. My guess is that there is some kind of dimension shift involved. vcameron may well have lived on Barra, but it may have been a Barra from a parallel dimension which is almost the same, but slightly different.
There was a very famous case of an American woman who claimed past life memories of being a woman in Ireland 100 years earlier. the researchers discovered that some of the the details were very accurate and could only have been made so with years of research in the town in Ireland where she claimed to have lived in the life before, poring through birth registers and library archives etc. But the woman's account contained innnacuracies that the same amount of research could have prevented. If the woman was faking it, then she must have been deliberately faking the innaccuracies too! Why?
synergy777
27-07-2007, 07:36 PM
don't start on the indian view of reincarnation, my crazy aunties have inflated my ego enough. birthmarks, dates, dreams, housewives tales.
hagbard_celine
28-07-2007, 10:30 AM
"It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate from the same people"
Winston Churchill, Sunday Illustrated Herald, February 8, 1920
I like your sig, Synery777. I get the distinct impression that Winston Churchill knew a hell of a lot more about what's really going down than most other prime minsters.
He is buried in a town near where I live and his grave is very strange. it faces the opposite direction to all the other graves and it has a seven-pointed star beside it.
Churchill was a keen Spiritualist and he suffered from depression nearly all his life. He said that he was standing on the deck of a ship at sea once and had to fight the urge to throw himself overboard.