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mrmoney
08-05-2009, 03:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8040168.stm

The UK Independence Party could topple Gordon Brown by beating Labour into fourth place in next month's Euro elections, says leader Nigel Farage.

Launching the party's election campaign, Mr Farage said the "humiliation" of being beaten by UKIP would force Mr Brown to quit.

Mr Farage also claimed the best way to defeat the BNP was to vote UKIP.

And he hit back at claims that the party, which came third in 2004's euro poll, would lose many seats this time.

UKIP, which campaigns for Britain's exit from the European Union, achieved a breakthrough in 2004, winning 16% of the vote and beating the Liberal Democrats into fourth place.

It has performed less well in elections since then and has lost three of its 12 MEPs, including television celebrity Robert Kilroy-Silk, who left to form his own party.

'Bad apples'

It also faces competition from new Eurosceptic parties such as the trade union-backed NO2EU and the pan-European Libertas, which wants wholesale reform of the EU rather than withdrawal.

But Mr Farage - who has said he will quit as leader if the party returns fewer than 10 MEPs - was bullish about its prospects at its campaign launch in central London.

He said that if there were a proper national debate about Europe in the run up to polling day UKIP, which is fielding 69 candidates for the 72 seats up for grabs, would experience another "surge" in public support.

"I think our potential in this election isn't just that we could beat the Liberal Democrats again. I think our potential in this particular election is that we could beat Gordon Brown's Labour Party.

"I am sure that the humiliation of being beaten into fourth place by UKIP would bring down the prime minister and given that he turned his back on us, having made a solemn pledge to give us a referendum, that is something I personally would not lose any sleep over."

He also addressed concerns about former UKIP MEPs Tom Wise, who was suspended after being investigated by EU anti-fraud watchdogs, and Ashley Mote, who was jailed for housing benefit fraud.

Mr Farage told reporters: "We have had our fair share of bad apples but I would point out that where we have had elected MEPs that have behaved badly and broken trust with us we have dealt with it absolutely ruthlessly by getting rid of them immediately."

Younger candidates

He said this contrasted with the major parties who he said "do everything they can to protect those who have not behaved well."

He said UKIP, which sits with other Eurosceptic parties as part of the Independence and Democracy group, had provided a voice of opposition to the EU within the European Parliament for the first time.

Because of that, the party had "held true" to the 2.7 million people who voted for it in 2004, he said, and it had played a "key role" in the successful campaign against the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland.

Mr Farage claims to have transformed the party, with much younger candidates, including five black or Asian people. Marta Andreasen, who was sacked as the EU's chief accountant after exposing suspect practices, is standing for the party in the South East of England and London.

Council by-election

He also made a direct appeal to disaffected voters considering supporting the British National Party, which Labour fears is poised to make a breakthrough in the North of England.

"There have been people in local council by-elections who have been going out and voting BNP, holding their nose because they want to send a message that they are not happy with what is happening.

"And we are going to say very loudly and very clearly to those people - we are a patriotic party, we believe in proper immigration controls in this country but we do so from a non-racist and non-sectarian perspective.

"In fact the only people who will stop the BNP from making an electoral breakthrough in the North of England are the UK Independence Party and we intend to do that."

He pointed to a council by-election result on Thursday in Hartlepool, which is a stronghold for UKIP, where it came second to Labour.

He added: "Our message is not negative. Our message is we want friendship and free trade. We want to be good neighbours but we do not want is to be part of this political union."

cafetimes1991
08-05-2009, 03:46 PM
Just went to their website. Excellent opening (ad), very modern (I take it unlimited immigration is bad? I don't want tosound racist...).
Winston Churchill at the end of the opening though?
Plus their logo looks a bit old fashioned or something.
Am I splitting hairs? If I was in the UK (and eighteen) I'd vote for them :)

drhemp
08-05-2009, 04:11 PM
It could well be the end of the one-eyed Scottish idiot if Labour were to come behind UKIP, which is quite likely.

However, we don't need to just see Brown go, we need the entire New Labour project to be consigned to the dustbin of history, and what's more, we do not need this evil government to simply be replaced by the Conservatives, who will carry on the same agenda as Labour, just as Labour continued the Tory agenda when BLiar took over from John Major.

They will fob off the bad election results as mid term blues, etc., but the reason why just about every government in living memory gets bad mid term election results, is because they all have carried out the same hated agenda of the New World Order. Wouldn't it be nice if a Government actually had good mid-term election results, because they were actually carrying out policies by the people for the people, when instead we have a bunch of corrupt loathsome slimeballs who are only interested in serving the agenda of the New World Order (as well as themselves with their greedy noses in the troughs).

Westminster has become little more than a talking shop and a rubber stamping tool for the corporate led agenda and policies coming out from the unelected faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. Anyone who says we live in a democracy is either a fool or a liar.

yozhik
08-05-2009, 04:56 PM
It's not restricted to Labour.
Labour, Conservatives ... all cut of the same Fabian cloth.

That's the evil ... the Fabian Society.
All MP's with a connection to the Fabian Society and/or Common Purpose should instantly be removed from the ballot sheet.

grannymoose
08-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Been following these a while now, as i,ve stated on a previous post there posting ad's through letter box's now with great effect, plus the road side bill boards are effective. There exposing quite alot people are unaware of.

teardropexplodes
08-05-2009, 07:09 PM
They'll probs be gettin my vote... not that I am particularly passionate about them, it's just that they seem modestly in line with some of my ideals... where absolutely no one else does.
And Farage comes across in interviews as a fairly warm, positive individual.
As a side note, the last time I voted was here in the "Big Brother by-election", for... guess who :D
It all felt rather strange and I never thought I'd get the chance to vote for Mr Icke.
I may even have met some of you canvassing in COttingham.

leemondo
08-05-2009, 07:56 PM
Westminster has become little more than a talking shop and a rubber stamping tool for the corporate led agenda and policies coming out from the unelected faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. Anyone who says we live in a democracy is either a fool or a liar.

Very well put, Dr!

markomac
08-05-2009, 08:36 PM
If we can all just agree on a party to vote for we can topple all the lib-lab-con muppets.

As a Scot, Tony bLIAR and Gordon (skidmark) Brown make me ashamed.

I think now is the time to do it. They might not be perfect, but come on! Look at the alternatives.

Dont let that BNP mob in. They look great until you get the more 'controversial' policies. I think in many ways the nWo wanks want them to get some votes. they would be very easily corrupted.

discuss (5 marks)

teardropexplodes
08-05-2009, 11:10 PM
Yeah, if everyone just votes for a "4th-party" party then it would send a huge message. And if everyone chose the same one then...
I agree that BNP are a complete no-no. Especially with their pro-zionist noises while trying to portray islam as the power threatening our freedom!
I mean, god... nwo shills, anyone??

ndc777
08-05-2009, 11:23 PM
The venue is set for this year's UKIP annual conference:


http://www.kolumbus.fi/oh3bu/caravan.jpg

jiffy
08-05-2009, 11:40 PM
It's not restricted to Labour.
Labour, Conservatives ... all cut of the same Fabian cloth.

That's the evil ... the Fabian Society.
All MP's with a connection to the Fabian Society and/or Common Purpose should instantly be removed from the ballot sheet.

So what Torries are registered members of the Socialist Fabian Society:rolleyes:

Ian2day
08-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Its a coup. Been planned for a few years now. The timing of the publication of the exspense receipts is for maximum effect.

the nine
08-05-2009, 11:45 PM
It's not restricted to Labour.
Labour, Conservatives ... all cut of the same Fabian cloth.

That's the evil ... the Fabian Society.
All MP's with a connection to the Fabian Society and/or Common Purpose should instantly be removed from the ballot sheet.

great post..this is my dream..but only that unfortunately..their stranglehold on the country is to fierce. the sheeple are unaware or to frightened to contemplate change:mad:

the nine
08-05-2009, 11:46 PM
So what Torries are registered members of the Socialist Fabian Society:rolleyes:

tories are MASSIVE CUNTS YES!!!
just like new La bore.
wake up man

the nine
08-05-2009, 11:48 PM
Its a coup. Been planned for a few years now. The timing of the publication of the exspense receipts is for maximum effect.

agreed..its so 'see through' its pathetic.

they must think the chemtrails, flouride/bromide and brainwashing media are enough to cover their tracks..:rolleyes:

pduffy4
09-05-2009, 12:40 AM
I could topple Broon with a sledge hammer.

joe911
09-05-2009, 01:16 AM
Does it really matter if they do get in,i mean wont thier leader be another one selected and funded by the elite?:confused::mad:

picha
09-05-2009, 02:15 AM
Yeah, if everyone just votes for a "4th-party" party then it would send a huge message. And if everyone chose the same one then...
I agree that BNP are a complete no-no. Especially with their pro-zionist noises while trying to portray islam as the power threatening our freedom!
I mean, god... nwo shills, anyone??

It definately isnt the only power threatening our freedom but it is not incorrect to say that political islam is a threat to our freedom. Did you know that sharia law not only applies to muslims but non muslims too?
Non muslims have to pay a tax called jizya to the muslims if they want to keep their religion, if they dont pay the tax they either have to convert to islam or be killed.

teardropexplodes
09-05-2009, 02:42 AM
It definately isnt the only power threatening our freedom but it is not incorrect to say that political islam is a threat to our freedom. Did you know that sharia law not only applies to muslims but non muslims too?
Non muslims have to pay a tax called jizya to the muslims if they want to keep their religion, if they dont pay the tax they either have to convert to islam or be killed.

Well, go over there and tell them to change... preferably not the way we did in Iraq, via an horrific genocide.
Back in England... there are many threats to our freedom at the moment. Profound threats. I'm worried like I've never been before, even in the dark days of Thatcherism.
Are you seriously telling me these threats are coming from those insane islamic madmen?
I agree it's scary living on estates full of ghettoised muslims, but that's something very different from what we're talking about here. We're talking about where the real sinister power lies. The muslims have no real power. And when the BNP attack the symptoms and not the root causes, while at the same time supporting marxist poisons such as zionism, I call them NWO SHILLS.