air rifle for meat procurment?

[d3v_]

After discovering this mans youtube channel and watching his "survival gun" video where he sawed off the stock of an air rifle and replaced it with a removable stock and therefore render it an ideal survival weapon able to be packed down in to a bag and used to procure meat sources in hard times. Quite frankly I am sold on the idea. Video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4jXFaMb7AQ&feature=channel_page

I know there's some gun people here that could help. How easy would it be to modify an air rifle like he did? And would it effect the performance of the weapon for instance accuracy, stability, ect?

[wazaaap]

in a survival situation - it is best to use a crossbow - reason is the bolt can be removed and it is very quiet - in the survival situation that we may face stealth is the key.

if you insist on using a gun then i personally don't use a rifle i use a semiautomatic pistol. it is more powerful than a air rifle and is lightweight. the down point is it needs small gas canisters - so you need to carry them, but as i say the best thing for survival is a crossbow.

the video is good, but i don't think i could be arsed humphing that big thing around.

[jonas parker]

The two main advantages of the air rifle are that it is extremely quiet, and ammunition is extremely cheap and easy to store.

One advantage that a crossbow has is stopping power. A crossbow can easily kill deer. On the downside, a crossbow isn't exactly "rapid fire", and bolts are both bulky and expensive.

For a survival weapon suitable for small game (rabbits, squirrels, etc.) an air rifle would be my choice.

[waylander]

I'll stick with my Model 21 Cooper Classic in 6mmPPC:cool::)

For quiet .22lr XIV Anchutz carbine with Sako soundbiter silencer & subsonic ammunition.

They get the job done:)

Waylander:cool:

[marpat]

You can buy air rifles that can be taken down. There is a version of the Air Arms S410 which can be taken apart

[tom bombadil]

Look here.

http://www.kevinboone.com/crossbow.html

Then think about the choice between crossbow (not bow and arrow) and gun. If you chose gun, then find a comparison site.

[injustice]

I have just bought the HW-90k, how does anyone rate this rifle please?

[d3v_]

Look here.

http://www.kevinboone.com/crossbow.html

Then think about the choice between crossbow (not bow and arrow) and gun. If you chose gun, then find a comparison site.

Read your link dude. I knew all about that becuase I've always had an interest in medieval warfare/wepaons. I agree a bow/xbow is a sound option but equally so is a rifle!

I have just bought the HW-90k, how does anyone rate this rifle please?

Sorry can't comment on this rifle but my eyes are on the HW-95 which is basically the same as the HW-90 but dosn't require gas. By all accounts the HW's will last forever, built like a rock, excellent trigger and as accurate and powerful as you can get without a FAC.

[hunter77]

in a survival situation - it is best to use a crossbow - reason is the bolt can be removed and it is very quiet - in the survival situation that we may face stealth is the key.

if you insist on using a gun then i personally don't use a rifle i use a semiautomatic pistol. it is more powerful than a air rifle and is lightweight. the down point is it needs small gas canisters - so you need to carry them, but as i say the best thing for survival is a crossbow.

the video is good, but i don't think i could be arsed humphing that big thing around.

a legal air pistol is not as powerful as an air rifle and is way less accurate. an air rifle is the ideal tool for rabitts , squirrels pigeons ect. pre charged air rirles can be silenced and has no reacoil. the other advantage is you can take a few shots in quick succesion if the rifle is a multi shot allowing you to shoot a few rabbitts in one sitting if they arent spooked you cant do this with a crossbow .you can buy take down rifles pre made(the gunpower range, stealth ect) also air arms make a very good rifle called the tdr.
as for a diy job it would probaly affect the guns accuracy and and balance.

pre charged silenced air rifles make vitually no noise as they are sub-sonic and there is no piston slap.
you can also but a theoben gun with a gas ram , that is reciol free and works the same as a springer only lasts for thosands of more shots.

[hunter77]

I have just bought the HW-90k, how does anyone rate this rifle please?

very good , sturdy rifle i have a hw97 k as a back up gun to my daystate mk2. is it a gas ram version as they are very good. the only draw back with weirachs is i find them heavy if on a big lamping trip, but they are very well made and reliable:) heres my current gun.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/031-2.jpg

[injustice]

very good , sturdy rifle i have a hw97 k as a back up gun to my daystate mk2. is a gas ram version as they are very good. the only draw back with weirachs is i find them heavy if on a big lamping trip, but they are very well made and reliable:) heres my current gun.


Nice.

It is forty years since I used an air rifle, I have a feeling one might come in handy before we get much older. I have had a little trouble zeroing the sights, but I think I have it sussed now.

[bemore]

Nice.

It is forty years since I used an air rifle, I have a feeling one might come in handy before we get much older. I have had a little trouble zeroing the sights, but I think I have it sussed now.

Ideally if you can place the gun in a vice and keep it secure then zeroing your sights can be made easier.

I have a heckler and koch MP5 sub machine gun (Joke :p)

Peace

[hunter77]

Nice.

It is forty years since I used an air rifle, I have a feeling one might come in handy before we get much older. I have had a little trouble zeroing the sights, but I think I have it sussed now.

if your haviving trouble with the elevation, put a folded piece of camera film under the bottom of the scope on the rear mount, this usually sorts any problems:)

[injustice]

if your haviving trouble with the elevation, put a folded piece of camera film under the bottom of the scope on the rear mount, this usually sorts any problems:)

Many thanks.

[microverses]

in a survival situation, if i have a gun - it's going to be one of substance that can kill....not piss something or someone off.

learn to make deadfalls, other lethal traps for food. this makes you less reliant on hardware.

a good book is the updated SAS survival guide.

[d3v_]

a good book is the updated SAS survival guide.

LINKAGE???

And does anyone have Lofty Wisemans new survival DVD?

[hunter77]

in a survival situation, if i have a gun - it's going to be one of substance that can kill....not piss something or someone off.

learn to make deadfalls, other lethal traps for food. this makes you less reliant on hardware.

a good book is the updated SAS survival guide.

snares work better in the uk then dead fall traps, you can catch dozens of rabbits in a night. just make sure you check them regularly as mr fox will take care of them for you.:) plus an air rifle will handle the three most wide spread eddible small mammals in the uk, rabbitts , wood pigeons and squirrels. i shot sixteen birds for a couple of pies tonight using about 50p worth of pellets thats value for money

[batou]

How easy would it be to modify an air rifle like he did? And would it effect the performance of the weapon for instance accuracy, stability, ect?
It would have a negative effect but since you're not sniping people from 1000 yards, it won't matter too much will it? Depends how nice a job you can do shoving a broom handle in your gun. Wobbly and crooked, or sturdy and straight?
Myself, I think it's a waste of your time and effort just to save yourself a foot of length and carry some matches. It's not the same material as the gun, it's not stable, it's a stick.. I don't see any good points :p

[21_12_2012]

My mate has a virac rifle (dunno if thats the correct spelling)

It uses a gas can thing in it, and it's quite powerful.

I've never shot anything except mcdonalds cups (target practice) with it.

But he shoots birds/rabbits and stuff.

I couldn't bring myself to shoot anything unless it was for emergency food, or to protect
my life.

I was brought up around guns...my dad had them..and taught me at a very
young age how to shoot (not animals/birds, but small targets for kids)

My friend often asks me if i want to go 'lamping' or shooting birds and stuff with him,
and i always refuse, i don't like to see uneccesary suffering...suffering of any
kind actually.

But i do know how to gut a rabbit, as i buy them fresh for my cat sometimes
off the market. I'm kind of immune to blood and guts. I also breed mice for the
cat too, and have to zap them in a zapper and cut them up for her.

If it came to a survival situation one day, i always have a 6 month food stock, i guess
i'd just have to weather the storm after that.

Food for thought though, this thread.

[hunter77]

My mate has a virac rifle (dunno if thats the correct spelling)

It uses a gas can thing in it, and it's quite powerful.

I've never shot anything except mcdonalds cups (target practice) with it.

But he shoots birds/rabbits and stuff.

I couldn't bring myself to shoot anything unless it was for emergency food, or to protect
my life.

I was brought up around guns...my dad had them..and taught me at a very
young age how to shoot (not animals/birds, but small targets for kids)

My friend often asks me if i want to go 'lamping' or shooting birds and stuff with him,
and i always refuse, i don't like to see uneccesary suffering...suffering of any
kind actually.

But i do know how to gut a rabbit, as i buy them fresh for my cat sometimes
off the market. I'm kind of immune to blood and guts. I also breed mice for the
cat too, and have to zap them in a zapper and cut them up for her.

If it came to a survival situation one day, i always have a 6 month food stock, i guess
i'd just have to weather the storm after that.

Food for thought though, this thread.

at least you have the skills if you need them,thats the important thing. and also before any one shoots at something live you need to be able to hit a target the size of a fifty pence piece at least 9 times out of ten from at least 30 yards. you also have to learn about the power curve of your gun projectiles dont fly true, if you less than your zero range you have to fire below the target and above for further, also you have to take wind into account. sounds complicated but with some good hrs put in on targets, it becomes automatic:)

[entrangermercenary]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3712

Steyr 7.5mm Austrian police sniping rifle good to kill the bunnies at 6oom. 5 rounds per mag.Trouble is not a lot left of them :o. If u can sneak up on the warren a cs gas grenade chucked in usually does the trick.(thats the one in the plastic in front of gas mask) But if not one of the black balls usually works. If it comes to hand to paw combat the Gerber or Kalashnikov bayonet works as long as they have no samurai to hand as reach is everything :D

Now if them fcking bunnies got in houses and it was FIBUA ( fighting in built up areas) the uzi or browning 9mm was handy with the para fn for a bit more kick :D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3713

If the little bastards ever went airborne we were prepared. The bofors should take care ov them and the ducks :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3714

If I ever catch one of them bunnies and they are good with computers I would b able to download some decent pictures :o

[tracker]

After discovering this mans youtube channel and watching his "survival gun" video where he sawed off the stock of an air rifle and replaced it with a removable stock and therefore render it an ideal survival weapon able to be packed down in to a bag and used to procure meat sources in hard times. Quite frankly I am sold on the idea. Video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4jXFaMb7AQ&feature=channel_page

I know there's some gun people here that could help. How easy would it be to modify an air rifle like he did? And would it effect the performance of the weapon for instance accuracy, stability, ect?

yeah but an air rifle can still give away ones position .

try cross bow , atleast the bolts are retreavable , but , it is a good idea to make an air rifle into a survival tool.

notice i say tool , not a weapon .:cool:

[hunter77]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3712

Steyr 7.5mm Austrian police sniping rifle good to kill the bunnies at 6oom. 5 rounds per mag.Trouble is not a lot left of them :o. If u can sneak up on the warren a cs gas grenade chucked in usually does the trick.(thats the one in the plastic in front of gas mask) But if not one of the black balls usually works. If it comes to hand to paw combat the Gerber or Kalashnikov bayonet works as long as they have no samurai to hand as reach is everything :D

Now if them fcking bunnies got in houses and it was FIBUA ( fighting in built up areas) the uzi or browning 9mm was handy with the para fn for a bit more kick :D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3713

If the little bastards ever went airborne we were prepared. The bofors should take care ov them and the ducks :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3714

If I ever catch one of them bunnies and they are good with computers I would b able to download some decent pictures :o

of you could just use a ferret and a fe purse nets and catch alot more;)

[hunter77]

yeah but an iar rifle can still give away ones position .

try cross bow , atleast the bolts are retreavable , but , it is a good idea to make an iar rifle into a survival tool.

notice i say tool , not a weapon .:cool:

my guns muzzle sound is a quiet as a mouse( 2 slinencers 1 integral and an extra threaded one), and makes no more impact sound than a cross bow. plus a crossbow for small game is an overkill and will spoil most of the meat.
but for deer ect i totally agree its a proper tool for that job. its a case of horses for coarses mate:)

[darketernal]

I've hunted both rabbits and squirrls as a child with an air rifle. Unless legalities are an issue I don't see any advantage to it over a real rifle, other than you do not have to worry about the explosion deteriants breaking down due to heat and humidity over time... but I would think air cartridges would be just as subject to corrosion from exposure.

[hunter77]

I've hunted both rabbits and squirrls as a child with an air rifle. Unless legalities are an issue I don't see any advantage to it over a real rifle, other than you do not have to worry about the explosion deteriants breaking down due to heat and humidity over time... but I would think air cartridges would be just as subject to corrosion from exposure.

its difficult to get a fire arms certificte in the uk mate, unless you have a large area of land to shoot over. air rifles up to 12 ft pound can be held with no license so are favoured by most, for stalking small game for this reason:)

[darketernal]

its difficult to get a fire arms certificte in the uk mate, unless you have a large area of land to shoot over. air rifles up to 12 ft pound can be held with no license so are favoured by most, for stalking small game for this reason:)

Ah one of the few advantages of living in Texas. My roomate and I each keep a mossberg 500 tactical in our bedrooms for home defense and a couple loaded hanguns on hand (.45 acp and .40 S&W), but my rifles are all in a safe in another location though. All perfectly legal.

Also the advantage of living in a home with no children currently in it.

http://www.davesguns.com/serverpics/FirearmsPage/Mossberg-500-Tactical-01.jpg

Although mine is customized a wee bit differently.

[hunter77]

Ah one of the few advantages of living in Texas. My roomate and I each keep a mossberg 500 tactical in our bedrooms for home defense and a couple loaded hanguns on hand (.45 acp and .40 S&W), but my rifles are all in a safe in another location though. All perfectly legal.

Also the advantage of living in a home with no children currently in it.

http://www.davesguns.com/serverpics/FirearmsPage/Mossberg-500-Tactical-01.jpg

Although mine is customized a wee bit differently.

i own a berreta 303, semi auto shotgun, use it for pigeon and duck shooting mainly. i have a license for this :)

[darketernal]

i own a berreta 303, semi auto shotgun, use it for pigeon and duck shooting mainly. i have a license for this :)

For birds I used to use a remington 1100, but I've not hunted birds in at least 10 years.

[hunter77]

For birds I used to use a remington 1100, but I've not hunted birds in at least 10 years.

that would be the featherd type;):D

[darketernal]

that would be the featherd type;):D

Clearly. Sorry forgot me British slang on that one, mate. ;)