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l00cipher
06-05-2009, 03:57 AM
hello all,
i once was reading a huge document that i believe was mostly on monarch programming or mind control or whatever. and somewhere in the document it mentioned how brian wilson from the beach boys was somehow brainwashed and that his album 'smile' that was never released was somehow very relevant to mind control. anyone know of this document or know anything about this?

thank u

greydove
06-05-2009, 10:50 PM
I am familiar with the story of Brian Wilson founder and lead singer of the Beach Boys, who underwent a very public and well-known "nervous breakdown" during and after the creation of the album Smile. Its really fascinating because Wilson in particular and the Beach Boys are linked with the occult practices going on at the time in the west coast rock scene, they had connections to the Beatles, some strange deaths that took place, links to the Manson cult, deliberate LSD dosing by the government among other things....I still think that the song Sloop John B. was a metaphor for a guided, government sponsored LSD trip that Brian underwent. "Nassau town" could easily be substituted for NASA town etc.

Then there's the song Heroes and Villains off that album that Wilson claimed was created out of "voices" (read entities) he was hearing in his head at the time, and it certainly is a VERY creepy, otherworldy song!

phildee3
06-05-2009, 11:11 PM
hello all,
i once was reading a huge document that i believe was mostly on monarch programming or mind control or whatever. and somewhere in the document it mentioned how brian wilson from the beach boys was somehow brainwashed and that his album 'smile' that was never released was somehow very relevant to mind control.



Smile was released on September 28th. 2004.

The remainder of your post is equally misinformed.

yeshua
06-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Smile was released on September 28th. 2004.

The remainder of your post is equally misinformed.

The version that was released in 2004 was a re-recorded version, the original album is still unreleased. Could you please specify what else in his post is misinformed?

greydove
07-05-2009, 02:10 AM
I believe he was referring to the 1968 album smiley smile, which has been released in its uncompleted format.

1977
07-05-2009, 02:57 AM
I still think that the song Sloop John B. was a metaphor for a guided, government sponsored LSD trip that Brian underwent. "Nassau town" could easily be substituted for NASA town etc.
That would be a good trick, since Sloop John B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloop_John_B). is a folk song from the West Indies. But yes—the whole story of Smile (and Pet Sounds) is very strange indeed. Especially interesting is how Brian said that the Ronettes' Be My Baby would silence his demons—another song with a very otherworldly sound!

Those interested in the original Smile should seek out the Purple Chick (http://www.earcandymag.com/purplechicksmile-2005.htm) reconstruction; it's a good listen. :)

l00cipher
07-05-2009, 03:03 AM
i am referring to the unreleased 1966-67 recordings that have been available on bootlegs since the 80s, and a few songs been released on the good vibrations box set. but yes, you are correct there is a new rerecorded version.

the lyrics for sloop john b were actually not written by brian, or any of the beach boys for that matter, like the previous poster said its an old folk song rearranged by brian. but i can dig where u are going with that. and yes, it is very strange that dennis wilson was big into charlie manson and the family,
the beach boys even recording a manson tune called never learn not to love which is on the 20/20 album. theres actually TONS of interesting connections.

i am actually not referring the smiley smile album at all, which did have some smile SONGS, but all of those were re recorded specifically for that album rearranged.

thank you everyone for posting, and if anyone knows of the document i am speaking of, it was on the internet that i read it, I would be greatly indebted.

and thanks for info regarding the purple chick bootleg comp. peace and love

greydove
07-05-2009, 04:22 PM
I know Sloop John B was an old folk song, but the music itself is very trippy and would work well in describing the context of a trip, no?

Also, Wilson was doing LSD at that time to the chagrin of his bandmates, so the song worked on a number of levels, which I'm sure he was aware of. :cool:

phildee3
07-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Also, Wilson was doing LSD at that time to the chagrin of his bandmates,



Only one or two of them.
Carl wrote this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPq_Cdarig

and Dennis did more drugs than the rest of them put together!!

l00cipher
09-05-2009, 05:56 AM
haha yeah i believe all of the beach boys were into some drugs. mike love seems to be the one most opposed to it, although oddly enough he got pretty deep into transcendental meditation if i'm not mistaken, which makes me wonder why he was so damn uptight. sloop john b definately has a complex arrangement that was probably influenced by wilsons lsd experiences, and the line "this is the worst trip i've ever been on" i'm sure he understood the double meaning in that. brian did NOT want the song on the album tho, and was talked into it because the album needed a single. likewise they were going to make him include good vibrations on the upcoming smile album, which he was totally against. they really fucked with that guys artistic vision man.
anyways, this is definately kind of off-topic, but I love the beach boys, especially this period. thanks for all the comments. much love