'Green' lightbulbs poison workers

[pduffy4]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6211261.ece

Just goes to show the CRIMINAL INSANITY of the people behind the "green" movement. Bad becomes good, black is white, poisons are good etc...:mad:

[lizzy]

yup....and disposal becomes another problem.....killing us with "kindness" :rolleyes:

[steppewar]

It won't effect me. I have stocked up with hundreds of incandescent bulbs. I advise everyone to do the same, time is short though, most incandescents will be illegal to sell in the whole of the EU from September 2009, not 2012.

Details here ...

http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/article/the-light-bulb-ban/

[paolo]

Full spectrum bulbs convey the right frequency of light and don't contain mercury

[burnttoast]

Large numbers of Chinese workers have been poisoned by mercury, which forms part of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs.

Hope the "greenies" can sleep at night knowing that...

a European Union directive making these bulbs compulsory within three years, has also led to the reopening of mercury mines that have ruined the environment.

"Saves on the utilities, but turns migrants into mutants", go on now and hug a tree...:mad:

[runlikehell]

most incandescents will be illegal to sell in the whole of the EU from September 2009, not 2012.

Why do they love September so much :confused::confused:

[leviathanstaar]

To them, they likely work as intended.

It doesnt save the earth because its 'green' or in anyway better, it just helps along the softkill of the person wanting the lightbulb.

[motleyhoo]

Sorry, but the bulbs did not make those people sick. The safety laws, environmental laws, and general corruption are totally fucked in China, and we ALL know that. Just as many people have gotten sick from toothepaste and baby formula in that country. They put derivatives of plastic in their milk products to boost the protein for cripes sake. Please, get a grip.

[runlikehell]

Sorry, but the bulbs did not make those people sick.

It being told what they can and can't do!

[venividivici2311]

Why do they love September so much :confused::confused:

Maybe because its the 11th month?

[killmicrosoft]

Maybe because its the 11th month?

no its the 9th month

[Ian2day]

Maybe because its the 11th month?
no its the 9th month

No its the 6th month! :D

[killmicrosoft]

No its the 6th month! :D

September is the 9th month look at a calender

http://www.calendardate.com/2009.php

[ronisron]

Sorry, but the bulbs did not make those people sick. The safety laws, environmental laws, and general corruption are totally fucked in China, and we ALL know that. Just as many people have gotten sick from toothepaste and baby formula in that country. They put derivatives of plastic in their milk products to boost the protein for cripes sake. Please, get a grip.

Read the side of the packaging that shows you what to do if the bulb should break, and how detailed the cleanup process is.... mask, gloves, open windows, well ventilated, etc.

[ronisron]

September?? :D It's the ninth month, althought SEPT is seven, October is the tenth month, although OCT is eight, November is the eleventh month, although NOV means nine, and lastly December is the twelfth month, although DEC means ten....

Get it straight, would ya?;)

[darkovic]

They put mercury in the inoculations they force on us and our children, then people begin to wake up to that one so they force us to buy lightbulbs (which inevitably get broken) that contain mercury!

Why do they want it in us all so badly?

[coco]

What about fluorescent lighting in schools, retails stores, workshops etc. or pretty much anywhere aside from private residences? Those bulbs have been used for decades. Why is a fuss being made now about CFL's? How are CFL's different to cause this level of concern?

[ex sheep]

They put mercury in the inoculations they force on us and our children, then people begin to wake up to that one so they force us to buy lightbulbs (which inevitably get broken) that contain mercury!

Why do they want it in us all so badly?

They want metals in our bodies so they can turn us into robots ;)

[darkovic]

They want metals in our bodies so they can turn us into robots ;)

I hope for your sake you don't mean actually physically turn us into metal robots...

[hawk]

They want metal in our bodies I guess so we will glow in the dark eventually. Maybe they are trying to re-invent the human being?

[jahzel]

I don't know whose "bright" idea it was to make these things, but one things for sure - I aint getting one and never will, never never never. :rolleyes:

[diamondgeezer]

Sorry, but the bulbs did not make those people sick. The safety laws, environmental laws, and general corruption are totally fucked in China, and we ALL know that. Just as many people have gotten sick from toothepaste and baby formula in that country. They put derivatives of plastic in their milk products to boost the protein for cripes sake. Please, get a grip.

Yeah, agreed.

And yes ok, there are dire warnings about disposal of these bulbs/the dangers of breakages/etc on the packaging...;)but hasn't it occurred to all you aspartamane/flouride/mercury paranoics that if *they* wanted to fuck you up then they WOULDN'T put the warnings there in the first place...?

[whiterain]

Sorry, but the bulbs did not make those people sick. The safety laws, environmental laws, and general corruption are totally fucked in China, and we ALL know that. Just as many people have gotten sick from toothepaste and baby formula in that country. They put derivatives of plastic in their milk products to boost the protein for cripes sake. Please, get a grip.

yeah they must have co2 poisoning instead eh? :rolleyes:

[flickflack]

Maybe because its the 11th month?

September is the 9th month on the calendar...

[burnttoast]

hasn't it occurred to all you aspartamane/flouride/mercury paranoics that if *they* wanted to fuck you up then they WOULDN'T put the warnings there in the first place...?

They only put the warnings there to cover their own asses legally..I feel there's also an esoteric reason behind it as well..they are "illustrating" what the intent is, as opposed to warning...

This debate is quite simple...ASK YOUR DOCTOR WHAT THEY ARE INJECTING YOU WITH.....I gather over 99% DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.... I have and they (doctors) get the majority info from the pharmaceuticals...which is slim and none about the ingrediants...

Oh and I just checked the outside of a Diet Coke can and don't see the warnings about MS or other brain disorders anywhere...

As for the lightbulbs...last I checked it's 2009...so why the F&*% do we NEED to have Mercury laced light sources FORCED on us...

[flickflack]

Read the side of the packaging that shows you what to do if the bulb should break, and how detailed the cleanup process is.... mask, gloves, open windows, well ventilated, etc.

My lamp fell to the floor, but the bulb did not break and was just fine. I was worried that the bulb would break, though.
I have to get a new lamp, because the one I have is not steady on the floor.

Unfortunately, going green seem to be bad for the people but good for the environment. But I hope in the future, being green would be great both for us and the environment. :)

[ronisron]

They only put the warnings there to cover their own asses legally..I feel there's also an esoteric reason behind it as well..they are "illustrating" what the intent is, as opposed to warning...

This debate is quite simple...ASK YOUR DOCTOR WHAT THEY ARE INJECTING YOU WITH.....I gather over 99% DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.... I have and they (doctors) get the majority info from the pharmaceuticals...which is slim and none about the ingrediants...

Oh and I just checked the outside of a Diet Coke can and don't see the warnings about MS or other brain disorders anywhere...

As for the lightbulbs...last I checked it's 2009...so why the F&*% do we NEED to have Mercury laced light sources FORCED on us...

Not to mention tobacco companies who put thousands of additives in the tobacco they sell-- there are also "warnings" on their packages as well.

Fluorescents are also nasty, and the same method of cleaning up after the new "energy saving" bulbs applies to their cleanup if you break one -- let the dust settle, do not handle it with bare hands, ventilate/wear a mask, clean the broom you sweep up with, double plastic bag the glass and dust, mark what it is on the outside, and or dispose of at a hazardous waste site.... so much for being environmentally friendly.

[cafetimes1991]

Can I still get the better light bulbs in Ireland? Or has John Gormley banned them already?

[diamondgeezer]

They only put the warnings there to cover their own asses legally..

And just what makes you think they feel the need to do that...?

:rolleyes:Surely if *they* are bothered to go to all these lengths to stitch us up to the extent thats being suggested here, with snide chemicals added to everything we consume, and with all the power & influence that that suggests they actually have over us, then surely the threat of a lawsuit over minor labelling errors on minor products such as lightbulbs isn't going to overly worry them hmmm...

[ronisron]

And just what makes you think they feel the need to do that...?

:rolleyes:Surely if *they* are bothered to go to all these lengths to stitch us up to the extent thats being suggested here, with snide chemicals added to everything we consume, and with all the power & influence that that suggests they actually have over us, then surely the threat of a lawsuit over minor labelling errors on minor products such as lightbulbs isn't going to overly worry them hmmm...

That's not the point. The point is, those lightbulbs are shite, and potentially harmful to your health. People need to know this. If this isn't info that you can use, so be it. Other people reading this will maybe think twice before using them, and that's a good thing.

[diamondgeezer]

That's not the point. The point is, those lightbulbs are shite, and potentially harmful to your health. People need to know this. If this isn't info that you can use, so be it. Other people reading this will maybe think twice before using them, and that's a good thing.

It is the point regarding my reply to burnttoast's post, but hey...

Anyway, I have taken on board that these bulbs are potentially dodgy to health & the environment, and will be looking into it a bit more & keeping an open mind on the matter...I have also clocked the eagerness of TPTB to get us to use these things..I've been bombarded with freebies too...

But the suspicion remains that the scare-mongering is all bollocks, and they just want us to save electricity. I now have had energy-saving lightbulbs in every socket bar one for a few years...my leccy bill has come down significantly, the things last for years, & I've not noticed any adverse effects from them.;)So the jury is still out...

[runlikehell]

Maybe because its the 11th month?

Cheer's Venividivici, they are obsessed with 11.

If they come out with shit in relation to No. 11 you can probbly bet it's going to happen!

[lottie]

Im gonna ask a stupid question... so dont shoot me down coz of my naeivety :o (or spelling lol) im only just learning about the lightbulb conspiracy!!!! :D

Is the mercury content the reason why they glow after they've been switched off? Ive noticed since having these bulbs that when i switch them off they take ages to stop glowing... quite alarming... also being pregnant im not too happy about one being in the lightfitting right over my bump.. could have caused all manner of things ...even though i cant prove this!! :rolleyes:

Mercury is recognised as a health hazard by authorities worldwide because its accumulation in the body can damage the nervous system, lungs and kidneys, posing a particular threat to babies in the womb and young children.

[lynfowars]

... I now have had energy-saving lightbulbs in every socket bar one for a few years...my leccy bill has come down significantly, the things last for years, & I've not noticed any adverse effects from them.;)So the jury is still out...

'They' as you like to ridicule with your commas, work on generational timescales. They don't give a flying fck about you. They are more interested in the effects of the mercury over the next few generations.

That IS why they have been demented in the drive to put the heavy metal into our bodies, with tooth fillings and foods, and now forced poisoning of the home environment with these 'energy saving' bulbs -that WILL break and WILL NOT be disposed of properly by todays ever-busy people.

No offense, but your whole attitude seems to be 'I am still alive therefore nothing is going on'. What the hell kind of deductive process is that?

Think generationally. They do, and have been planning todays events from the 1930's

[runlikehell]

Im gonna ask a stupid question... so dont shoot me down coz of my naeivety :o (or spelling lol) im only just learning about the lightbulb conspiracy!!!! :D

Is the mercury content the reason why they glow after they've been switched off? Ive noticed since having these bulbs that when i switch them off they take ages to stop glowing... quite alarming... also being pregnant im not too happy about one being in the lightfitting right over my bump.. could have caused all manner of things ...even though i cant prove this!! :rolleyes:

:confused::confused: Im not trying to freak you out, but If i were you i woulden't take the Chance if your carrying a small bundel of Joy!

Ide get rid off them light bulbs

[lottie]

:confused::confused: Im not trying to freak you out, but If i were you i woulden't take the Chance if your carrying a small bundel of Joy!

Ide get rid off them light bulbs

I just did a minute ago- been meaning to do it for a few weeks now since discovering this info i just went and swapped 'em for the two 'normal' bulbs i got left- i noticed B&Q were selling loads real cheap the other day-so im going to stock up tomorrow.. the reason i had them in anyway was due to tesco not selling normal bulbs anymore- i was forced to buy them at the time!!

[burnttoast]

But the suspicion remains that the scare-mongering is all bollocks, and they just want us to save electricity.

I have 4 children and have had 3 lamps with incandescents shatter in the passed year...biggest worry.. they get cut...with these Glowing Mercury viles...possible future nervous disorders/cancer...NO bullocks scaremongering..Mercury is poison PERIOD!

I'm all for saving on the electricity, but not at the heightened dangers to my kids.....let's face it, with the tech they're keeping from us, we could all be living on free clean energy right now!...they don't want us to save on anything...just another control angle.

[motleyhoo]

What about fluorescent lighting in schools, retails stores, workshops etc. or pretty much anywhere aside from private residences? Those bulbs have been used for decades. Why is a fuss being made now about CFL's? How are CFL's different to cause this level of concern?

Exactly!!! People are freaking out irrationally. I have posted already several times that all the CFLs in all the homes of the world all added up together are not even a fraction of a percent of the total number of flourescent lighting that is used is office buildings, factories, etc., and have been used in them for decades. But the real insanity is that the amount of Mercury that is released by power plants into the air we breath goes on 24/7 and far surpasses the amount of Mercury that one would be exposed to from a broken bulb. I have never seen so much panic and hair pulling over such a non-issue in all my life.

Anyone who lives within 100 miles downwind of a coal fired power plant is breathing Mercury. They're eating Mercury. They're drinking Mercury. The Mercury that spews from the stacks of these plants builds up in the soil, water, animals, the entire food chain, AND IN PEOPLE, over time. It doesn't go away and it doesn't degrade. The amount that already permeates our ecosystems and our bodies is far greater than we would ever get from breaking lightbulbs. To bad there isn't the same outrage about that and there won't be as long folks continue to read sensationalized fear-mongering articles that only tell half the truth.

[bowtiedaddy]

Okay... are the new ones different? I bought around a year ago what people are calling "green bulbs" and they were brighter, more natural, and didn't make me sick at all. The only beef is I couldn't keep them on for too long or I'd get a bit of a headache becaiuse they were brighter, I'm very sensitive to light (I keep my house pretty dark, anyway).

They last a lot longer and my light bill went down as well.

Are they making them different now than they did before? I haven't use them in several months (moved), but I had no negative experiences when I did.

[steppewar]

Health reasons aside, low energy light bulbs produce a crappy hazy light.

I have tried them, realized they were shit and stocked up on incandescents BIG TIME to last me the rest of my life and leave some in my will to my nephew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMSctiO-quc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT7LOV6tieQ

100 watt pearl incandescent light bulbs illegal for sale in Europe from 1st September 2009. I reckon I have got enough to last until 2050, FUCK THE EU.

http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/article/the-light-bulb-ban/

[darkovic]

Ever heard the phrase "mad as a hatter" ? Sure you have. That comes from hat makers using mercury in the manufacture of top hats and going insane from mercury poisoning.

So our glorious leaders decided to put it in vaccines and light bulbs that are bound to break.

But they have our best interests at heart... obviously...

[cruise4]

"I have never seen so much panic and hair pulling over such a non-issue in all my life."

You go through various mercury problems and then wonder why an addition 'cloaked' under the cover of 'greenism' is being noticed in this age of CO2 Global Warming insanity and the accompanying eugenics agenda? It's the introduction, the forced usage of, the knowing the elite are murderers, the bogus cover-stories... these bulbs are just one more example.

Pointing out something else causes greater harm is all very well. How much mercury does it take out these lightbulbs though?

When I read the articles about the $2000 cleanup and how it was 'just bad advice' and then read the EPA guidelines... I still get the distinct impression these things are not good at all.

BTW. Anyone noticed odd Bumble Bee behaviour under fluorescent lights? It sometimes seems to knock them straight out the air.

[cruise4]

New Evidence Links Mercury Emissions to Rates of Autism

http://www.naturalnews.com/023123.html
Tuesday, April 29, 2008 by: Teri Lee Gruss

(NaturalNews) Researchers at the University of Texas Health Science Center (UTHSC) say that "for the first time in scientific literature, a statistically significant association between autism risk and distance from the mercury source" has been established.

Lead researcher Raymond F. Palmer PhD says, "This is not a definitive study, but just one more that furthers the association between environment mercury and autism". The study, Proximity to point sources of environmental mercury release as a predictor of autism prevalence appears in the journal Health & Place (2008).

"We suspect low-dose exposures to various environmental toxicants, including mercury, that occur during critical windows of neural development among genetically susceptible children may increase the risk for developmental disorders such as autism".

Mercury sources evaluated in the UTHSC study included "coal-fired utility plants (33 percent of exposures), municipal/medical waste incinerators (29 percent) and commercial/industrial boilers (18 percent)". Concrete manufacturing was also listed as a source of mercury emissions.

Autism rates were gathered in 1,040 Texas school districts and distance from mercury sources were measured to a central point in the communities studied.

Researchers noted that children with autism not enrolled in the school districts studied were not included in the data. Therefore autism rates presented in this study may be somewhat under-reported.

Key findings from the UTHSC study news release

* For every 1,000 pounds of mercury released by all industrial sources in Texas into the environment in 1998, there was a corresponding 2.6 percent increase in autism rates in the Texas school districts in 2002.

* For every 1,000 pounds of mercury released by Texas power plants in 1998, there was a corresponding 3.7 percent increase in autism rates in Texas school districts in 2002.

* Autism prevalence diminished 1 percent to 2 percent for every 10 miles from the source.

Adding up the mercury body burden

Considering other sources of mercury exposure, from fish consumption, mercury amalgams and mercury preserved vaccinations along with the data from this revealing study, it isn't hard to see that the total body burden of mercury to pregnant and nursing mothers and young children is increasing at a potentially dangerous rate.

Dr. Palmer emphasizes that mercury pollution is a global issue. We know that coal burning power plants and industrial emissions travel in jet streams and ocean currents, redistributed across the planet and into distant food supplies. So how do we protect children, not only from mercury sources close to home but from global sources as well?

In 2007, the National Resources Defense Council (NRDC) reported that "China uses and releases more mercury than any other country in the world". The NRDC is working internationally, to find solutions to this problem including a reduction in global supply and demand for mercury and a strategy to control coal burning emissions in China. We can apply this same model domestically.

In their document "NRDC Finds to Stop Mercury Pollution in China: China is Cornerstone in Solving Global Mercury Problem", the authors say that China mined 1400 tons of mercury in 2004 for domestic use, about half of total global mercury used. Additionally, China imports mercury, much of it coming from the European Union which, according to the NRDC is the world's biggest exporter of mercury.

Reducing exposure to mercury, a potent neurotoxin, is integral to halting our exploding rate of autism. Eliminating the mercury preservative thimerosal in all vaccinations, eliminating consumption of mercury contaminated fish and seaweed and eliminating the use of mercury amalgams are effective steps towards reducing cumulative total body burden of mercury in pregnant and nursing mothers, small children and everyone else.

Reducing industrial mercury emissions is a challenge that has to be addressed both at home and abroad.

Source:

UTHSC News Release, April 24, 2008
Study links autism risk to distance from power plants, other mercury-releasing sources
http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singl...asp?newID=2732

Citation:

Palmer, R.F., et al., Proximity to point sources of environmental mercury release as a predictor of autism prevalence. Health & Place (2008), doi:10.1016/j.healthplace.2008.02.001.

[darkovic]

"I have never seen so much panic and hair pulling over such a non-issue in all my life."

You go through various mercury problems and then wonder why an addition 'cloaked' under the cover of 'greenism' is being noticed in this age of CO2 Global Warming insanity and the accompanying eugenics agenda? It's the introduction, the forced usage of, the knowing the elite are murderers, the bogus cover-stories... these bulbs are just one more example.

Pointing out something else causes greater harm is all very well. How much mercury does it take out these lightbulbs though?

When I read the articles about the $2000 cleanup and how it was 'just bad advice' and then read the EPA guidelines... I still get the distinct impression these things are not good at all.

BTW. Anyone noticed odd Bumble Bee behaviour under fluorescent lights? It sometimes seems to knock them straight out the air.

I haven't but they use light to navigate, just like we do. Our eyes are totally different to theirs though and they see (so scientists tell me) a much shorter bandwidth so maybe they can't see in it at all.

[diamondgeezer]

I have 4 children and have had 3 lamps with incandescents shatter in the passed year...biggest worry.. they get cut...with these Glowing Mercury viles...possible future nervous disorders/cancer...NO bullocks scaremongering..Mercury is poison PERIOD!


Like I said earlier I have them in every light socket in the house bar one (the kitchen which has a flourescent strip light fitting), and have done for a good few years, and I've never had ONE blow/shatter on me! Not saying they don't of course, but it must be unusual...

& yes of course mercury is poison, but I can't see how it could cause health risks in these bulbs as long as they don't break. I have a mercury thermometer (which probably contains far more mercury than all my bulbs put together), and no-one seems to think thats dangerous in any way...

*edit* Perhaps its not such a good idea to put incandescents in lamps (reading lamps & the like) if they are likely to get knocked over, by kids/pets etc. Ceiling sockets shouldn't be a problem.

[motleyhoo]

New Evidence Links Mercury Emissions to Rates of Autism


That absolutely makes sense, and the mercury being released by power plants is responsible for a lot more health issues than just autism. But this gets to my point - the amout of Mercury that is being released by power plants at any given moment in time is so much greater than that released by broken light bulbs that it boggles the mind. And yet its the light bulbs that people are hysterical over, nevermind that the Mercury from power plants has been pumped into our environment for decades, and isn't just in our homes in a tiny pile under a broken bulb, it's in our soil, food, water, our air, and in our bodies. I wish there was as much outrage about that, but instead we have these same people fighting FOR the power companies in their "CO2 is harmless" campaign, undoubtedly not realizing, or not caring, that with that CO2 comes Mercury, SOx, NOx, and a whole host of other heavy metals and toxic substances. I guess it's just easier for some people to fight against some lightbulbs.

[ronisron]

Like I said earlier I have them in every light socket in the house bar one (the kitchen which has a flourescent strip light fitting), and have done for a good few years, and I've never had ONE blow/shatter on me! Not saying they don't of course, but it must be unusual...

& yes of course mercury is poison, but I can't see how it could cause health risks in these bulbs as long as they don't break. I have a mercury thermometer (which probably contains far more mercury than all my bulbs put together), and no-one seems to think thats dangerous in any way...

OK, here's a scenario.... the bulb burns out, while replacing it, you drop it, it shatters, not uncommon. You are moving something through the house and accidentally knock a lamp over.... you're carrying something high and it catches an overhead light...etc. You have a potential health risk just like *snap* that. Not to worry, just follow the instructions detailing cleanup on the side of the box, and you'll be fine. You may be the exception, as you've apparently never broken a light bulb. Lots of other people, myself included, have.

These bulbs are shite, and the elite is using the decency of good people who want to do what's right against them. Again.

[lottie]

I dont see why people cant make a fuss about these bulbs? Just because there's natural mercury in our environment and that factories and the like expell mercury doesnt mean we cant complain... this is being brought into our homes. Ive just spent the last 7months unknowingly sleeping 4ft away from 2 mercury bulbs hanging over my unborn child for up to 12 hours a night...i have a right to be concerned.

There are many ways to conserve energy etc such as free energy also- these lightbulbs are literally a drop in the ocean conserving energy and being green wise... if the governments really gave two shits about conserving the environment there's plenty they could do- there's aaan abundance of free energy etc but they dont give a shit because it all comes down to money and control...

How about they make it mandatory that all homes built in future have to be fitted with solar panels? thats just one ieda... no they wont because they dont want us making our own energy as then we wouldnt be dependant on them for our energy!
I could go on with hydro run cars etc... blah blah blah- wind/solar/tidal power...all free!!!!

At this rate im going back to bloody candles...:D

[diamondgeezer]

OK, here's a scenario.... the bulb burns out, while replacing it, you drop it, it shatters, not uncommon. You are moving something through the house and accidentally knock a lamp over.... you're carrying something high and it catches an overhead light...etc. You have a potential health risk just like *snap* that. Not to worry, just follow the instructions detailing cleanup on the side of the box, and you'll be fine. You may be the exception, as you've apparently never broken a light bulb. Lots of other people, myself included, have.

These bulbs are shite, and the elite is using the decency of good people who want to do what's right against them. Again.

LOL of course I have...the old kind. They are *obviously* more fragile. And they are more awkward to remove from the socket than the incandescants (which have an easily grippable plastic base)...with the older kind you have to grip hold of the glass sphere itself to fit/remove them. The older kind are (in my experience anyway) prone to 'blowing' when they die, leading to the very real of electrocution if you are unfamiliar with which way the 'on' position on the swich is, or are attempting to change it in the dark.

The bottom line surely is simply to be very careful not to break the incandescent kind when fitting/removing them, and not to fit them in lamps that are likely to get knocked over. Its not rocket science...

[ronisron]

LOL of course I have...the old kind. They are *obviously* more fragile. And they are more awkward to remove from the socket than the incandescants (which have an easily grippable plastic base)...with the older kind you have to grip hold of the glass sphere itself to fit/remove them. The older kind are (in my experience anyway) prone to 'blowing' when they die, leading to the very real of electrocution if you are unfamiliar with which way the 'on' position on the swich is, or are attempting to change it in the dark.

The bottom line surely is simply to be very careful not to break the incandescent kind when fitting/removing them, and not to fit them in lamps that are likely to get knocked over. Its not rocket science...

Accidents aren't rocket science either, they just happen. Where do you buy those lamps that aren't likely to be knocked over???:D

Fluorescents have always been dodgy in connection to health. Nothing new.

[remium]

I got two mercury free 'megaman' economy lightbulbs in the post today.... doesnt say what poison they've replaced the mercury for tho...anyone know???

[coco]

I dont see why people cant make a fuss about these bulbs? Just because there's natural mercury in our environment and that factories and the like expell mercury doesnt mean we cant complain... this is being brought into our homes. Ive just spent the last 7months unknowingly sleeping 4ft away from 2 mercury bulbs hanging over my unborn child for up to 12 hours a night...i have a right to be concerned.

There are many ways to conserve energy etc such as free energy also- these lightbulbs are literally a drop in the ocean conserving energy and being green wise... if the governments really gave two shits about conserving the environment there's plenty they could do- there's aaan abundance of free energy etc but they dont give a shit because it all comes down to money and control...

How about they make it mandatory that all homes built in future have to be fitted with solar panels? thats just one ieda... no they wont because they dont want us making our own energy as then we wouldnt be dependant on them for our energy!
I could go on with hydro run cars etc... blah blah blah- wind/solar/tidal power...all free!!!!

At this rate im going back to bloody candles...:D


Of course people freely voice concerns about this and with good right. My stance may well stem from ignorance - fluorescents have been used in businesses and schools for decades so I truly don't understand the issue of concern in this thread unless CFL's are different in some manner. I sincerely ask are they? What is the difference? I really am not aware. But the level of concern I have witnessed in the forum and this thread lend me to think there is.

I agree with you about solar energy. The US government supposedly promotes alternative energy use by providing a tax break to those who make use of it - if they can afford to or are clever enough to without a large investment. I would LOVE to see solar panel installation become a normal part of house construction but I understand the cost prohibits such from becoming routine.

How fortunate for the energy companies. I guess JP Morgan's ghost figured out a way to put a meter on the solar issue by making start up costs such that it would take an indeterminate length of time to realize a savings after installation fees are paid off.