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hogans
18-07-2007, 08:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6904547.stm

oh yay.... :mad:

splinterg
18-07-2007, 09:02 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6904547.stm

oh yay.... :mad:

Lol..where did they get that picture from? It looks like a bag of moss..The Government wont be happy till the whole country has gone up in smoke...they will never kurb cannabis or any other more harmfull drugs..alcohol for example.. unless government planes stop bringing it in to this country it will never stop..lol

They really don't know what they are fucking with..unless of course they know to take away yet another freedom that could finally be the pushing point to civil war..lol bring it on

auron
18-07-2007, 09:05 PM
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Laws making possession of cannabis a largely non-arrestable offence could be reversed, Gordon Brown has said.

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splinterg
18-07-2007, 09:07 PM
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lol auron

hogans
18-07-2007, 09:09 PM
.The Government wont be happy till the whole country has gone up in smoke...



i think the whole planet would happier if we all went up in smoke.... green smoke that is

x

kooo
18-07-2007, 09:20 PM
They really don't know what they are fucking with..unless of course they know to take away yet another freedom that could finally be the pushing point to civil war..lol bring it on

You could be right there. Smoking keeps people chilled, take it away and their physical and mental energy go into overdrive. Combine increased energy with a burning resentment and what have you got? War.

auron
18-07-2007, 09:51 PM
From the BBC website:

At that time the ACMD said that while cannabis was undoubtedly harmful it was still less harmful than other drugs like amphetamines which are in Class B. It recommended no change.

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freethinker
18-07-2007, 10:30 PM
some of the stuff you can buy is 25 times stronger !!!

it has been proven to be linked with mental illness also

but be honest - has anyone been using more of it since the original declassification

it won't make a bit of difference to the people that use it

auron
18-07-2007, 10:39 PM
Check this thread out:

Marijuana Facts

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1851

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cruise4
19-07-2007, 09:19 AM
"it has been proven to be linked with mental illness also"

Peanuts have been proved to be linked to death... so what?
I know of no-one who's had the slightest mental problem from Marijuana.
Thats not to say the odd person doesn't. Its about keeping things in perspective.
How do you know that its not Society's viewpoint on users that doesn't cause the mental problems?

I can think of a way to eradicate it, but I won't post it here in case they use it.

Its bad news whatever.

auron
19-07-2007, 09:23 AM
"it has been proven to be linked with mental illness also"

Peanuts have been proved to be linked to death... so what?
I know of no-one who's had the slightest mental problem from Marijuana.
Thats not to say the odd person doesn't. Its about keeping things in perspective.
How do you know that its not Society's viewpoint on users that doesn't cause the mental problems?

I can think of a way to eradicate it, but I won't post it here in case they use it.

Its bad news whatever.
Spot on! When someone smoking dope is flying like an eagle around turkeys, they would consider him to be "mentally unstable"

synergy777
19-07-2007, 01:11 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1728513,00.html

The commissioner's remarks caused something of a furore. The Foreign Office minister Bill Rammell called for a cocaine boycott just as South African wine was snubbed during apartheid. The media had its fun, too. Journalists started boasting about their own drug habits - the more cowardly (or the more sensible) under pseudonyms. Reporters were dispatched to discover evidence of cocaine use in both expected and unexpected places. Traces were found at the Old Bailey, Pangaea nightclub, the House of Commons, London Fashion Week and the Labour party conference.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16471110&method=full&siteid=93463&headline=houses-of-charliement-name_page.html

HOUSES OF CHARLIEMENT
We uncover scandal of lethal powder smuggled into Westminster under noses of gun cops Druggies snort coke yards from MPs in debates
By Bethany Usher And Stewart Maclean
DEADLY cocaine is being snorted in the very heart of the Houses of Parliament, a shocking People investigation reveals today.

We found undeniable evidence of the class A substance just YARDS from where MPs debate key issues - including Britain's mounting drugs crisis.

Amazingly, cocaine - nicknamed Charlie - is being smuggled into the historic Palace of Westminster despite the tightest security clampdown ever seen there.

Our investigator, armed with special wipes like those issued to FBI agents and British drug cops, tested surfaces in toilets used by MPs and visitors.

And the result was POSITIVE for the illegal white powder.

The People's revelations come after Labour Left winger Dennis Skinner was booted out of the Commons for a jibe about Shadow Chancellor George Osborne and coke - a claim the Tory denies.


David Cameron - who made his debut as Opposition leader last week - has refused to say whether he ever used cocaine.


Westminster's splendid Gothic building is just one of the centres of power where we discovered evidence of cocaine abuse.


The People's investigator posed as a tourist to join people queuing at the St Stephen's entrance to see a debate in the Mother of Parliaments.


Despite the airport-style, anti-terror checks and armed police, she found it easy to slip away from the group once inside. Our girl walked across the ornate central lobby - the "crossroads" between Commons and Lords - where Parliamentary giants such as Churchill and Gladstone once strode.


She was stopped twice by police but bluffed her way past them to reach stairs leading to the Select Committee rooms.


Then as two armed guards approached she ducked into the toilets. There she wiped surfaces with the highly accurate Nik swabs, which are sensitive to even the slightest residue.


They immediately turned a tell-tale blue.


Proving this was not a freak finding, our investigator also discovered cocaine traces at the new Portcullis House, which houses MPs' offices, and nearby St Stephen's Tavern, a popular haunt for MPs and aides. Labour home affairs select committee member Steve McCabe urged The People to alert police to the findings. He said: "If there is any evidence that people are taking cocaine in the Commons or anywhere else it is a police matter."


Lib Dem home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten said: "I'm absolutely shocked by your findings.


"I'm really surprised that cocaine was found in the Houses of Parliament and I am amazed that people could be so stupid as to use it there."


He urged the Government to "get a grip" on its drug policy.


Shadow health minister Tim Loughton said: "Nowhere is immune from drugs. All these official places are a microcosm of society, and society has a drug problem - which makes it no less unacceptable."


And Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said: "We will continue to reduce the damage caused by the most dangerous drugs by ensuring that effective treatment is available as soon as it is needed." There has been an explosion in the use of cocaine - once reserved for the rich and celebs such as supermodel Kate Moss - as its price plummets.


The estimated number of users in Britain soared from 180,000 in 1996 to 640,000 in 2003.


Snorting cocaine powder, extracted from the coca plant, gives an instant hit of euphoria.


But it speeds up the heart rate, which can cause a coronary attack and even sudden death.


At St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, west London, one in three young men visiting casualty with chest pains has been on cocaine.


Professor John Henry, warned: "We are going to see more severe addiction, more strokes and heart attacks."


Cocaine also damages the nose. Ex-EastEnder Daniella Westbrook had her septum rebuilt after coke sprees.


-Voice of The People: Page 8


stewart.maclean@people.co.uk


PERIL HIDESHERE


Courts of Justice


WE found cocaine traces in men's toilets next to the advocates' robing room at the London courts where high-profile cases are decided. There was evidence of the drug near where a cistern is mounted on a wall.


Portcullis House


OUR investigator found drug traces in a cubicle in the gents at the new buidling housing MPs' offices and committee rooms. Someone had dared to smuggle in cocaine in defiance of the airport-style security checks.


Welsh Assembly


PEOPLE investigator shows the cocaine testing swab which proved positive at the Welsh Assembly in Cardiff. Cocaine was found around taps in toilets 20 yards from where Welsh MPs were holding a debate.


Chelsea Football Club


THE scourge of cocaine appears to have soccer fans in its grip, The People discovered. There were traces of the white powder in the supporters' toilets at Stamford Bridge, the west London ground of Premiership champions Chelsea. But at least there was no evidence of the club's mega wealthy stars falling prey to cocaine abuse. Our investigation revealed there were no traces of the drug in the players' plush loos.


St Stephen's Tavern


AT St Stephen's Tavern, a favourite watering hole for MPs and their cronies on the corner of Canon Row, there were signs of cocaine abuse. Traces of the drug showed up on top of a cistern in the gents.


Old Bailey


EVIDENCE of cocaine was found in every toilet at the Central Criminal Court, where many a big-time drug dealer has had his come-uppance. Even loos near the barristers' robing room at the Bailey were tainted.


Scottish Parliament


TESTS revealed that the toilets next to the debating chamber at the impressive Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh were drug free. Scots MPs have private facilities at their offices in the building...


Jenny Ha's bar


...BUT cocaine traces were found by The People in the men's and women's toilets at Jenny Ha's, 50 yards from the Scottish Parliament. The bar is a favourite spot for MPs and political aides to relax.

soundthief
19-07-2007, 04:29 PM
"it has been proven to be linked with mental illness also"

Peanuts have been proved to be linked to death... so what?
I know of no-one who's had the slightest mental problem from Marijuana.
Thats not to say the odd person doesn't. Its about keeping things in perspective.
How do you know that its not Society's viewpoint on users that doesn't cause the mental problems?

I can think of a way to eradicate it, but I won't post it here in case they use it.

Its bad news whatever.


i got a bad come down off it, the whole of the next day after a heavy smoke happiness was non-existent, i just used to feel bad vibes and feelings n feel fragile. since i stopped 3 or 4 months ago im all good and life is quite different.

this is just my individual experience though

karma19
19-07-2007, 05:48 PM
i got a bad come down off it, the whole of the next day after a heavy smoke happiness was non-existent, i just used to feel bad vibes and feelings n feel fragile. since i stopped 3 or 4 months ago im all good and life is quite different.

this is just my individual experience though

My bf used to smoke it and he was like you, bad bad days after. He has given up and finds life so much better without it. His personal choice.

thoth
19-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Looks like I am moving to UK

synergy777
19-07-2007, 06:24 PM
its effects are dependant on the individual, the state of mind, surroundings/other people, existing worries etc. i went through a dodgy stage, but that was due to the data i was looking at, the denial of one world government, etc. i had other people give me shit etc, but thats all in the past. now i am untouchable like i was before i got into this stuff. i can smoke, drink, with ease and enjoy it, it gives respite from thinking about this stuff. not only that, its my money, i will spend it however i like. at the end of the day, all intoxicants like alcohol, weed, nicotine etc effects people differently, all it does is magnify worries and personality traits. if you are calm, good, it makes you happy.

at the end of the day, i can smoke, drink and still beat the computer/phone at chess, so i can't be that bad, thats my lucidity test, lol. anyway its from the earth, genesis 1.12, it is beneficial, in the right quantities. also they have smoked it for ages, in africa, india etc, the burning bush, energising herb (SOMA). see the secret is to do it and be positive, don't get paranoid, low, weak etc. blaze the fyah!!!! one love.

cf24
19-07-2007, 06:30 PM
I agree, I find for me if I have a lot of shit going on in my life then I tend to think too much about them, and end up doing my head in. Perhaps smoking on your own aint such a good idea then. Smokin with friends in a social environment is usually much more fun though. I think laughing uncontrollably when stoned is very therapeutic, and makes your whole body buzz........

synergy777
19-07-2007, 06:47 PM
cf24, spot on bro.

if you have smoke do it like you would have a glass of wine, the effects are similar, chilled out etc. mixing wine and weed, gets you hype and stoned, a nice buzz. watch films, paint, make beats, listen to music, be creative, have friends around/go out socialise etc, eat food, its all good. its better than seeing the beered up hard men who after 6/7 pints start getting all hard, but in the morning then return back to normal. i love me beer, i just don't like prats who get "dutch courage". the track on the street album opm, track 11, the irony of it all, true words. personally me and my mates, have variety of fun things, wink wink. we always have a laugh, never cause shit, act like gentlemen, old school. not like these young ones, no head or heart. when we go out, we have a circle of asians, africans and europeans, but thats because we are on the level, we are safe, loyal, have jokes etc.

personally, england got the best social life/culture, our pubs etc are the best in the world. even the morning after, greasy spoon fry up, etc i love it. add in the footy, lad mags, cars, gadgets etc, its awesome.

cruise4
19-07-2007, 07:17 PM
Laughing uncontrollably... I vaguely remember that.

Yes, it certainly doesn't sit well with some people, no denying that.

If anyone has trouble stopping smoking, its actually easy... you just have to do it a few times to learn that its easy.

Expect a day of feeling slightly pissed off, remember during that day why you are feeling pissed off, and the next day you feel able to do without it. Day after that you start to feel OK again. This is for long term, as much as possible, dudes. Has the added benefit, if you don't do any for a few weeks, that you actually get wrecked off it again for a brief while!

It's great for playing Music and instinctive creativity though, isn't it.

synergy777
19-07-2007, 07:49 PM
it actually opens you up, gives you empathy etc. playing fifa on it, the nutmegs/tricks come easy, lol

zoloko
19-07-2007, 09:14 PM
Laughing uncontrollably... I vaguely remember that.

Yes, it certainly doesn't sit well with some people, no denying that.

If anyone has trouble stopping smoking, its actually easy... you just have to do it a few times to learn that its easy.

Expect a day of feeling slightly pissed off, remember during that day why you are feeling pissed off, and the next day you feel able to do without it. Day after that you start to feel OK again. This is for long term, as much as possible, dudes. Has the added benefit, if you don't do any for a few weeks, that you actually get wrecked off it again for a brief while!

It's great for playing Music and instinctive creativity though, isn't it.
I love you!!!
Why quit??? I started smoking Cannabis in the 60ties!! W had a political view on it then!! And I think it´s strange that since then, I never heard the true reason why "The Establishment" is so "onto" Cannabis! It´s obvious!! Who will put up with all the "bullshit" of today´s world, (do I need to mention what) if you "smoke" on regular bacis??? All we really need, does not crave a lot! To be content in your heart and your stomack, is eazy!!! I lived in a country where ca. 80pc. of the population "smokes"!!! We just want a simple life! Strees has no place!! Nobody minds hard work, when it´s neded! But it has to have a practical purpose!! And do we take breaks to dance and talk!!! YES!!!!
Thank you!!!

zoloko
19-07-2007, 09:17 PM
I love you!!!
Why quit??? I started smoking Cannabis in the 60ties!! W had a political view on it then!! And I think it´s strange that since then, I never heard the true reason why "The Establishment" is so "onto" Cannabis! It´s obvious!! Who will put up with all the "bullshit" of today´s world, (do I need to mention what) if you "smoke" on regular bacis??? All we really need, does not crave a lot! To be content in your heart and your stomack, is eazy!!! I lived in a country where ca. 80pc. of the population "smokes"!!! We just want a simple life! Strees has no place!! Nobody minds hard work, when it´s neded! But it has to have a practical purpose!! And do we take breaks to dance and talk!!! YES!!!!
Thank you!!!
Well, couldn´t edit, ofcourse I mean Stress!!!

harbingers_kiss
19-07-2007, 10:20 PM
Not one death soley due to marijuana has ever occured. How many deaths from alcohol have there been ? Hell, there have been deaths recorded due to video game addiction around the world, but none from marijuana. What does that say ?

Driving studies show that people who have smoked MJ are not only better drivers than people who are drunk, but better drivers than most straight people. (studies done in Canada) Generally, people who are stoned don't want to drive anyway. They want to eat popcorn and watch documentaries or cartoons.

I have never heard of a man beating his wife or raping his child because he was stoned. Drunk, yes.

For people who have allergies to most pain meds (like me) MJ can get you through the day. I lived through (barely) what alcohol did to my mother, needless to say.. I don't drink alcohol.

Generally, people who have had bad expeiences with pot, have gotten stuff the gov sprayed with chemicals, or it was laced with something through an untrustworthy dealer. Those problems will stop if it's legalized.

We have receptors in the brain for both THC and nicotine. Only those molecules will fit these receptors. Does'nt that mean as humans we are symbiotic to these drugs ? That they were meant to be a natural medicine for man ? Funny, there are no receptors for alcohol.

It has been proven that MJ helps a vast number of medical conditions including fighting cancer.

Pot is safer than alcohol. Why is alcohol legal then ? Because the senators and congressmen need their 4 o'clock highballs to ease the guilt over having sex with your pre-teen. That and during prohibition, the people who wanted to drink got violent so they legalized it. MJ is illegal right now and I don't see any violence. Perhaps everyone who is pro pot should stay straight (so they have the ability to even get violent) and go shoot up the streets with machine guns like the people who wanted alcohol legalized did.

The government wants control over people. If MJ were legal, Monsanto and the drug companies they own, could'nt own you like they do. They much prefer you drinking because of the wealth of problems it causes across the board.

harbingers_kiss
19-07-2007, 10:31 PM
It says: "Recently, there have been various forms of herbal or grass-type cannabis that are generally found to be stronger than ordinary 'weed', containing on average two to three times the amount of the active compound, THC.

"These include sinsemilla (a bud grown in the absence of male plants and which has no seeds), homegrown, skunk (which has a particular strong smell) and netherweed."

This alone should show that this is a biased article. Misinfo propoganda. Anyone who smokes pot can tell you the varieties mentioned here are the same varieties that have been being smoked for the past 50 years !

auron
19-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Not one death soley due to marijuana has ever occured. How many deaths from alcohol have there been ? Hell, there have been deaths recorded due to video game addiction around the world, but none from marijuana. What does that say ?

Driving studies show that people who have smoked MJ are not only better drivers than people who are drunk, but better drivers than most straight people. (studies done in Canada) Generally, people who are stoned don't want to drive anyway. They want to eat popcorn and watch documentaries or cartoons.

I have never heard of a man beating his wife or raping his child because he was stoned. Drunk, yes.

For people who have allergies to most pain meds (like me) MJ can get you through the day. I lived through (barely) what alcohol did to my mother, needless to say.. I don't drink alcohol.

Generally, people who have had bad expeiences with pot, have gotten stuff the gov sprayed with chemicals, or it was laced with something through an untrustworthy dealer. Those problems will stop if it's legalized.

We have receptors in the brain for both THC and nicotine. Only those molecules will fit these receptors. Does'nt that mean as humans we are symbiotic to these drugs ? That they were meant to be a natural medicine for man ? Funny, there are no receptors for alcohol.

It has been proven that MJ helps a vast number of medical conditions including fighting cancer.

Pot is safer than alcohol. Why is alcohol legal then ? Because the senators and congressmen need their 4 o'clock highballs to ease the guilt over having sex with your pre-teen. That and during prohibition, the people who wanted to drink got violent so they legalized it. MJ is illegal right now and I don't see any violence. Perhaps everyone who is pro pot should stay straight (so they have the ability to even get violent) and go shoot up the streets with machine guns like the people who wanted alcohol legalized did.

The government wants control over people. If MJ were legal, Monsanto and the drug companies they own, could'nt own you like they do. They much prefer you drinking because of the wealth of problems it causes across the board.
Yeah, but the government say it's harmful, so stay well away!!. They know what they're talking about!!

Fuck the law!!

Smoke the draw!!

:D

ashyr
20-07-2007, 01:22 AM
ahah who posted that "SMOKING IS HEALTHIER THAN FASCISM" thats so classic im laughin hard while having a smoke lol. eek!

well i think personally the only reason we are smokin drugs, or taking any drugs in that matter, is because they allow it, the police/courts/govt/reps/alien control peopel all that guff. let us.
they could stop it if they wanted. sht if it was a cop. i would know all the people to bust. where to look and how to abolish it. its not fuckn hard aye.
yet they let us. for what? because theyre makin the $$$ off it
my friend was dating a daughter of the chief of police in a well known town here in NZ they went to the top floor of the police building one fri afternoon to retrieve her car keys from her father or something they walked in and seen a pile of cannibus your jaws would drop and dribble on your knee's if u could imagne how big this pile was. bags of cocaine,speed you name it all out on the table. bags of this bags of that. meanwhile all the officiers where busy skinning up. rolling up big fat joints and smokin there brains out. when my friend walked in with the daughter of the police they all freaked the fuck out and yelled at them "GET THE FUCK OUT YOU KIDS" ahah yet ive seen it here in myown town. there was a picture here in teh papers of police helicopter raids on plots and tehy found plantations and destroyed them yet if you look closely on the picture on teh front page of the newspaper there is 3 police officers out of about 12. who decided to remove there gas masks and stand next to this gigantic bonfire of marijuana.. i wonder why no one picked that out of the pictture?

lottie
20-07-2007, 01:30 AM
ahah who posted that "SMOKING IS HEALTHIER THAN FASCISM" thats so classic im laughin hard while having a smoke lol. eek!

well i think personally the only reason we are smokin drugs, or taking any drugs in that matter, is because they allow it, the police/courts/govt/reps/alien control peopel all that guff. let us.
they could stop it if they wanted. sht if it was a cop. i would know all the people to bust. where to look and how to abolish it. its not fuckn hard aye.
yet they let us. for what? because theyre makin the $$$ off it
my friend was dating a daughter of the chief of police in a well known town here in NZ they went to the top floor of the police building one fri afternoon to retrieve her car keys from her father or something they walked in and seen a pile of cannibus your jaws would drop and dribble on your knee's if u could imagne how big this pile was. bags of cocaine,speed you name it all out on the table. bags of this bags of that. meanwhile all the officiers where busy skinning up. rolling up big fat joints and smokin there brains out. when my friend walked in with the daughter of the police they all freaked the fuck out and yelled at them "GET THE FUCK OUT YOU KIDS" ahah yet ive seen it here in myown town. there was a picture here in teh papers of police helicopter raids on plots and tehy found plantations and destroyed them yet if you look closely on the picture on teh front page of the newspaper there is 3 police officers out of about 12. who decided to remove there gas masks and stand next to this gigantic bonfire of marijuana.. i wonder why no one picked that out of the pictture?

Spot on ashyr!

paolo
20-07-2007, 01:30 AM
I smoked varieties in the late sixties and early Seventies which were much stronger than skunk and co. The Afghani black from December 1972 which was everywhere and which contained so much THC that it crystalised out and led to accusations that it was spiked with morphine or some such. The African weed of '69 which was sticky with resin and was an instant trip
Most of the skunk is dud and as for the rocky!!!!!!

ashyr
20-07-2007, 01:39 AM
thank you. hehe ive found a mode inside myself where i can open a portal and connect to the INTERWEB, so to call it of conciousness through out people.
i can very quickly come to a conclusion using comparisons and truths, then its like "DIVINE INTERVENTION" sit back inside my BODY and know the answers to peoples questions. its truely amazing. im trying so hard now to put it into a usable theoretical instruction for others to try and use.

its basically like the internet of conciousness. and yes you can set your homepage to www.google.com if you want. =D

some people call is PHSYCIC but i wouldnt. my version of phsycic is flawed because there is still that paradox of FATE vs DESTINY lol where actually they are both the same. I am phsycic and yet i dont tell anyone cause u can immagine the ridicule. its something that marijuana enhances for me. where most people smoke bud and relax. my body enters "MIND AWAKE , BODY ASLEEP" prety quick. and the amazement on peoples faces when i smoke a big sticky bud with friends and they all BOMB out yet im sittin there discussin the theorys of universal knowledge and truths, ideas of interest where no one can answer my questions lol some truely out there stuff i come up with, and they cant understand it. Im normally like this anyway but they try to sedate me sometimes with marijuana but it enhances it something chronic.
haha chronic.

whitelightrabbit
20-07-2007, 01:46 AM
i think i'll review some cannabis right now :D

joe dolan
20-07-2007, 01:47 AM
in the montauk projects (mk utlra etc..) see stuart swerdlow.. they recommend drugs. ie cocaine, heroin, l.s.d... but THEY WILL NOT ALLOW cannabis... just a though. try to meditate. (really meditate) on cannabis, youll see!!!

harbingers_kiss
20-07-2007, 02:15 AM
Nice post ashyr & joe. :) Yes, now they want pot around a bit more..to get their own stuff out there. A few years back, Monsanto began to experiment with genetically altering marijuana. I have a hunch when they feel their GMO MJ is the predominant variety, pot will be legalized. As I tell everyone.. SAVE YOUR SEEDS ! Grow where it can't be cross pollinated with an unknown crop, or dusted with GMO pollen by heliocopter.

auron
20-07-2007, 02:36 AM
ahah who posted that "SMOKING IS HEALTHIER THAN FASCISM" thats so classic im laughin hard while having a smoke lol. eek!


http://bureaucrash.com/system/files/images/Smoking+Is+Healthier+Than+Fascism+800+x+600.previe w.gif

:D

lottie
20-07-2007, 02:39 AM
:D

ashyr
20-07-2007, 04:31 AM
in the montauk projects (mk utlra etc..) see stuart swerdlow.. they recommend drugs. ie cocaine, heroin, l.s.d... but THEY WILL NOT ALLOW cannabis... just a though. try to meditate. (really meditate) on cannabis, youll see!!!

thers 3 ways meditating on cannibas can go. i find

usually 1 is more dominant that the other 2

are you reffereing to the random/messyness relaxed hard to focus on anything mindset?

if your in that mode on marijuana seriously trying to focus or fixate on onething (ahem, short term memory bug) its terrible .almost strip the bark off your tree sometimes when your making love to your girl and your thinking about the complex molecular structure of futuristic space armour.

thoough there are 2 other sides i have found to marijuana mindset with a look into the still mind eg, meditation.

1 is the thing i call "THE CREATIVE CONUNDRUM" copyright Ashyr 2002 lol
this is when you get a group of people they all have an alterd mindset because of the MODE they are now in from marij, this is when ideas bounce around like inside a prism and everyone is tuned to recieve the message and entiertly of what is protrayed, and it gets bigger and bigger, almost sometimes u can pick up this thing which is AGREED and do something with it. but i find most of the time you have weak parts in the chain, then partin and people pullin out of it happens and you can get bumbed out, its like YOU WERE ALMOST TO THE POINT, wher you could have done somethign with the POOL but have given up, then its dropped, i feel bumbed out personally because its like a waste of however much time was given in the MODE"

and

2 is more PASSIVE everytime, and you all know about the classic.

room full of budsmokers and a room full of alcohol drinkers watchign the game.
whos more likely to get, a)violent b)thicker and thicker by the minute c) repetative

not to mention, who will loose 1st

LOSS OF MOTOR SKILLS
LACK OF JUDGEMENT
INDECISIVENESS
VOMIT
PASSOUT
INJURE OTHER PEOPLE WHILE UNDER THERE CARE
DO DAMAGE TO UNBORN CHILDREN WHILST UNDER THE INFLUENCE.
ABILITY TO BE CREATIVE.

list can go on

winniewillcocks
20-07-2007, 11:15 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6904547.stm

oh yay.... :mad:

All drugs should be class A( Hi Penalty)

Don't use drugs it will just blind you from the truth!!!

Mugs Game!

cruise4
20-07-2007, 11:28 AM
Another member of the thought police exposed!

synergy777
20-07-2007, 12:49 PM
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,2130770,00.html

Drink most to blame for violent offences Alcohol, not drugs, linked to incidents, says survey

Alan Travis, home affairs editor Friday July 20, 2007

Violent crime is overwhelmingly fuelled by drink rather than drugs, with nearly half of all incidents linked to alcohol, according to the British Crime Survey published yesterday. Just 17% of violent offences are committed by people who have been using drugs, the figures show.
The annual crime statistics released by the Home Office reveal an apparent 5% rise in violent crime, 10% rise in vandalism and a 3% increase in robbery in 2006/07. But the increases are matched by continuing falls in burglary, car crime and sex offences.

they should make recreational drugs legal, sell them, with tax, imagine the revenues. its a win/win,that way they can regulate it, enforce an age limit. soon alcohol will be targeted the same way as smoking. alcohol was banned in the states, prohibition, it gave rise to al capone. the drug dealers etc would lose their market if it was legalised, the profit margins would drop. they could manufcature joints like ciggies. why do the elite have an invested interest in drugs being illegal, hence keeping the price high, they run it. smoking, alcohol, then meat you watch.

winniewillcocks
20-07-2007, 01:55 PM
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,2130770,00.html

Drink most to blame for violent offences Alcohol, not drugs, linked to incidents, says survey

Alan Travis, home affairs editor Friday July 20, 2007

Violent crime is overwhelmingly fuelled by drink rather than drugs, with nearly half of all incidents linked to alcohol, according to the British Crime Survey published yesterday. Just 17% of violent offences are committed by people who have been using drugs, the figures show.
The annual crime statistics released by the Home Office reveal an apparent 5% rise in violent crime, 10% rise in vandalism and a 3% increase in robbery in 2006/07. But the increases are matched by continuing falls in burglary, car crime and sex offences.

they should make recreational drugs legal, sell them, with tax, imagine the revenues. its a win/win,that way they can regulate it, enforce an age limit. soon alcohol will be targeted the same way as smoking. alcohol was banned in the states, prohibition, it gave rise to al capone. the drug dealers etc would lose their market if it was legalised, the profit margins would drop. they could manufcature joints like ciggies. why do the elite have an invested interest in drugs being illegal, hence keeping the price high, they run it. smoking, alcohol, then meat you watch.


Should be banned! They don't open your eyes, they just fuck you up!

friendsinthesky
20-07-2007, 02:14 PM
.
1 is the thing i call "THE CREATIVE CONUNDRUM" copyright Ashyr 2002 lol
this is when you get a group of people they all have an alterd mindset because of the MODE they are now in from marij, this is when ideas bounce around like inside a prism and everyone is tuned to recieve the message and entiertly of what is protrayed, and it gets bigger and bigger, almost sometimes u can pick up this thing which is AGREED and do something with it. but i find most of the time you have weak parts in the chain, then partin and people pullin out of it happens and you can get bumbed out, its like YOU WERE ALMOST TO THE POINT, wher you could have done somethign with the POOL but have given up, then its dropped, i feel bumbed out personally because its like a waste of however much time was given in the MODE"

It's a friggin loop, obviously it's a friggin loop, it's a friggin loop dude. Oh, did I say it's a friggin-loop.(one time, my brain nearly exploded trying to explain the universe)true story
.
and

2 is more PASSIVE everytime, and you all know about the classic.

room full of budsmokers and a room full of alcohol drinkers watchign the game.
whos more likely to get, a)violent b)thicker and thicker by the minute c) repetative

not to mention, who will loose 1st

Or, not to mention who may fall asleep first.

kooo
20-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Smoked my last joint an hour ago and I'm not buying any more, I have now officially given up for the 6th time. Although, I expect in about 4 hours time I will be climbing the walls and cursing a lot but damn it, I'm gonna do this!!!!

friendsinthesky
20-07-2007, 03:05 PM
Smoked my last joint an hour ago and I'm not buying any more, I have now officially given up for the 6th time. Although, I expect in about 4 hours time I will be climbing the walls and cursing a lot but damn it, I'm gonna do this!!!!

What do you mean your gonna do it this time? Are you addicted? I stopped many times, actually, it's been awhile.


P.S Dope is easy to quit when compared to cigarettes (for mine).

david ickes bike
20-07-2007, 03:08 PM
in the montauk projects (mk utlra etc..) see stuart swerdlow.. they recommend drugs. ie cocaine, heroin, l.s.d... but THEY WILL NOT ALLOW cannabis... just a though. try to meditate. (really meditate) on cannabis, youll see!!!

The montauk project claims are bullshit you do know this dont you?

exclamatio
20-07-2007, 03:15 PM
when weed is smoked on its own its actually very good for you, however mixed with tobacco which as u all know is very common its not so great

benefits include increased recovery, this includes injuries and recovery from any kind of sport or training/workout

it clears your lungs and increases the amount of oxygen you will get into your blood stream, that obviously comes back to the recovery aspect too :P

it must be taken on its own though, cant mix it with tobacco because of the pesticides and such that be all mixed in there

in my own personal experience my lungs are much clearer when smoking through a bong as opposed to a joint

as for the mental problems, if someone is going to have mental problems then it sure as hell isnt going to be caused by smoking weed. if some leads an unstable life (unstable in any aspect, physical mental spiritual etc) then they have the potential to develop all kinds of psychological problems, the cause of the problems is not the weed but the lifestyle

bad studies show that marijuanna is linked to mental health problems

you could quite as easily produce studies that show living in houses produce psychological problems. i know for a fact lots of people who live in houses have mental instabilities! therefore housing shoud be made illegal and punishable by death. anyone from now on found living in a shouse will be hung by the neck untill they are sorry.

kooo
20-07-2007, 03:20 PM
What do you mean your gonna do it this time? Are you addicted? I stopped many times, actually, it's been awhile.


P.S Dope is easy to quit when compared to cigarettes (for mine).

What do you mean you stopped many times, were you addicted? :D

It's a psychological addiction, you know that. You say dope is easy to quit compared to cigarettes, do you still smoke cigarettes? I only smoke dope so when I give it up I give up nicotine as well.

friendsinthesky
20-07-2007, 03:45 PM
What do you mean you stopped many times, were you addicted? :D

No, I wasn't addicted. I had a daily habit and decided to stop, that's all.

It's a psychological addiction, you know that. You say dope is easy to quit compared to cigarettes, do you still smoke cigarettes? I only smoke dope so when I give it up I give up nicotine as well.

Yes I still smoke cig's But I have plans for that in 3weeks time...:D

kooo
20-07-2007, 03:54 PM
No, I wasn't addicted. I had a daily habit and decided to stop, that's all.



Yes I still smoke cig's But I have plans for that in 3weeks time...:D

Daily habit sounds like an addiction to me. Now that you've told me you still smoke cigarettes I think it's a bit of a cop out, of course it's easy to give up dope if you still get a nicotine hit. It seems I should be offering you advice on your nicotine addiction, or is it just a daily habit? Anyone can give up one thing at a time, it takes more willpower to give up two things at once. You've made me feel a lot better ;) Roll on day one of my skunk free life.

ashyr
20-07-2007, 05:40 PM
ive tried to kick cigs , but heck. i know its just a decision. thats it. starts with me.

also i dotn think i will ever give up my love for the bud.

but im not addicted. lol

class!

synergy777
20-07-2007, 06:14 PM
by itself the benefits are there, having weed in a bong is the best way. the water filters out the crap, cools thr smoke. so you get no heat damage etc. i have a friend with asthma, started smoking weed by itself via bong, no need for inhaler. having it in joints is bad, but its the most popular way. i have weed on fri/weekends only, ciggie in the week. weed is easier to give up, ciggies are another matter, lol

so tonight is blaze night, sat pub/club night, sun chill night. i smoke weed, and never have lung problems, in fact i have better lung capacity than just ciggie smokers. my longest hookah/sisha hit is 28 secs, lol although its paced not at full speed.

exclamatio
20-07-2007, 08:51 PM
not to mention the effect marijuanna has on cancer too :P

whitelightrabbit
20-07-2007, 08:57 PM
not to mention the effect marijuanna has on cancer too :P

not cancer per say... marijuana is amazing medicine for nausea which is a common side effect of chemo therapy.

auron
20-07-2007, 09:00 PM
Marijuana is amazing full stop.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5008/jointun9.gif

blane777
20-07-2007, 11:27 PM
Marijuana is amazing full stop.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5008/jointun9.gif

Why Auron ? Can you give reasons why its Awesome pls matey ?

auron
21-07-2007, 12:38 AM
Why Auron ? Can you give reasons why its Awesome pls matey ?

Marijuana Facts

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1851

harbingers_kiss
21-07-2007, 03:14 AM
Marijuana is Brain Food
19-Oct-2005

Scientists have discovered that marijuana doesn’t just get you "high," it actually stimulates brain growth. They want to find a way to use it to treat anxiety and depression, since some scientists believe that depression can begin when too few new brain cells are grown in the hippocampus. It may eventually be used as part of a program to treat Alzheimer's or dementia, diseases that are becoming more common as the population ages.
The key ingredient is the chemical HU-210. Neuropsychiatrist Xia Zhang says the synthetic version is 100 times as powerful as THC, that ingredient in natural marijuana. She says, "This is a very potent cannabinoid oil. It's not something that would be available on the street."

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4950


Marijuana Medicine
06-Mar-2007

We've written before about how some people think Marijuana is a wonder drug. Now a new scientific study proves that Marijuana is a "valuable medicine" for certain types of intractable pain that cannot be relieved any other way. This should make us take another look at our drug laws—which are NOT working.
In the Boston Globe, Lester Grinspoon reports on a new study in the journal Neurology that "is being hailed as unassailable proof that marijuana is a valuable medicine." According to Grinspoon, who is co-author of Marijuana the Forbidden Medicine, this is nothing new. He writes, "From 1840 to 1900, American and European medical journals published over 100 papers on the therapeutic uses of marijuana, also known as cannabis."

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6028

and for a wealth of information including tests results they don't publish in mainstream U.S. news.. go to

http://www.crrh.org/

ashyr
21-07-2007, 03:53 AM
actually those of you who think BONG marijuana is a great thing i hate to dissolution you but its been proven to be bad. i should try to find some info on it but from what i read aparently over a extended period vapour and fluid from the moisture of BONG water apears in the lungs. in eefectively in the cold weather or in the flue seasons could be prone to infections and fluid in the lungs.

JOINT is always the best method. yet anyone who doesnt want to smoke anything just cook your bud in some BUTTER or OIL and cook with it. body stone is awesome.

auron
21-07-2007, 05:05 AM
Cooking With Marijuana:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5049

cruise4
21-07-2007, 01:07 PM
Tried a brain wave generator thingy called idozer for the first time last night. Quite odd, had some similarity to what it was supposed to. Don't feel quite over it and its over 16hrs later now. Sort of feel like trying anything to 'break through' these days!

hogans
21-07-2007, 04:02 PM
I smoke weed every day and believe that if it wasn't for the stuff i wouldn't have as big a capacity to digest the realisation of reality if I hadn't smoked it. I love the stuff, as Bill Hicks said, 'Saying Cannibis should be illegal is like saying God made a mistake'. same goes for all plant based drugs. Thought I'd say my bit.

Tronaliser
(not hogans, his flatmate)

auron
21-07-2007, 05:52 PM
I smoke weed every day and believe that if it wasn't for the stuff i wouldn't have as big a capacity to digest the realisation of reality if I hadn't smoked it. I love the stuff, as Bill Hicks said, 'Saying Cannibis should be illegal is like saying God made a mistake'. same goes for all plant based drugs. Thought I'd say my bit.

Tronaliser
(not hogans, his flatmate)
Exactly! What is the mentality of making nature against the law?? :confused:

themindseye
21-07-2007, 08:26 PM
Cannabis is a Gift from God !!

Indoor growing now is booming more then ever,
Its a 100 times a bigger risk going to a city center for a bevy
than sitting at home smokin a joint of Jah Herb....


check out 'Ukcultivator'

cf24
21-07-2007, 10:26 PM
Vaporize, its much healthier. Better buzz also......