Police to destroy DNA profiles of 800,000

[stickwhistler]

Police to destroy DNA profiles of 800,000 innocent people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/03/dna-profiles-destroyed


DNA profiles of almost a million innocent people are to be destroyed as part of a major overhaul of the police national database. They include people who have been arrested and never charged, and those taken to court but found not guilty.

The rest at the link.

[smoke n mirrors]

Humm I wonder what other crumbs, they will be feeding people as they back peddle!

Distraction - Reduced Reaction - Business As Usual

IMHO

Edit: DRB = Dirty Rotten Bastards

[lottie]

About effing time too!! Cant believe its taken this long for the idiots to use their common sense... common sense certainly isnt very common these days!!

Im sure its not as innocent as its being made out anyway- if they really do want a database for the future then there's no way they're gonna destroy all of what they have already!!

[yozhik]

They haven't decided ... what a load of ol' tosh.
They HAD to given a recent EU Court ruling ... remember?

Jackboot Clarke came out immediately after the court ruling all huster and bluster, stating that the government would take some time to consider how they would react to the court ruling .. if at all ... but they were ALWAYS going to toe the line to their beloved Head Office ... the EU Corporation.

They just didn't want to appear to be the useless puppets they actually are.
This pause between ruling and adhering to it was just a "save face". That, and they hoped we'd forget that they had already lost in court and that the keeping of DNA samples of innocents had already been deemed unlawful and a contravention of human rights.

Don't believe their propaganda ... this is NOT their considered decision.
This is the resultant activity of abiding by a higher court's ruling, to correct a violation of human rights.

[smoke n mirrors]

They haven't decided ... what a load of ol' tosh.
They HAD to given a recent EU Court ruling ... remember?

Jackboot Clarke came out immediately after the court ruling all huster and bluster, stating that the government would take some time to consider how they would react to the court ruling .. if at all ... but they were ALWAYS going to toe the line to their beloved Head Office ... the EU Corporation.

They just didn't want to appear to be the useless puppets they actually are.
This pause between ruling and adhering to it was just a "save face". That, and they hoped we'd forget that they had already lost in court and that the keeping of DNA samples of innocents had already been deemed unlawful and a contravention of human rights.

Don't believe their propaganda ... this is NOT their considered decision.
This is the resultant activity of abiding by a higher court's ruling, to correct a violation of human rights.

Nice post!

There is always the bigger agenda. The EU imposing rules against nation state or governments, on issues the people are unhappy with, further enhancing the EU's steps to become the out right authority. People will rejoice at removing the powers from the likes of BROWN, GORDON. Then we will find out exactly what the EU thinks of human rights!

[nightwalker]

Yes I am sure they are - not :mad:

[wells]

Even if they do destroy these records, you can be sure some twerp will 'accidentally' lose a laptop containing all the details before it happens.

[marpat]

The EU did rule that the database was illegal. Another embarrasing event for our goverment. Becoming a regular habit for them recently.

[gilly]

I thought that was the ruling months ago. Why haven't they even started yet? Who'll even know they've done it once they claim to have done? There should have been some stiff penalty imposed on them for the infringement of people's privacey by illegaly storing that data in the first place.

[tribe_of_david]

was their not something a while ago where it was mentioned by some chief of police or someone that once details are on the database they cannot be removed ?

yet another lie then if they can actually be removed, or is this latest article just some smokescreen for another agenda. i always think of what david icke says when some MSM news gets released and thats take a step back and re-evaluate the bigger picture. Everything happens for a reason with these scumbags, especially if something "supposodly good" is happening u can be sure the people behind the scenes have some plot or scheme cooking.

[drhemp]

Humm I wonder what other crumbs, they will be feeding people as they back peddle!


They are doing this because the European Court of Human Rights forced them to do it citing it as an abuse of people's human rights. Jacqui Smith's reaction to this was that she was disappointed in the ruling. What kind of person is disappointed when told she can't abuse human rights? It would seem the type of person who would inappropriately claim tax payers expenses for a house she doesn't live in and her hubby's german piss porn

[smoke n mirrors]

was their not something a while ago where it was mentioned by some chief of police or someone that once details are on the database they cannot be removed ?

yet another lie then if they can actually be removed, or is this latest article just some smokescreen for another agenda. i always think of what david icke says when some MSM news gets released and thats take a step back and re-evaluate the bigger picture. Everything happens for a reason with these scumbags, especially if something "supposodly good" is happening u can be sure the people behind the scenes have some plot or scheme cooking.

Maybe the answer is, EU = Good Cop...Government = Bad Cop so we all embrace the EU, more readily when the day comes to expose the plot.

@ drhemp, Ye I get that...but its still a crumb and a back peddle all part of the game.

Lots of stuff they want us to forget...killer cops, immoral expenses and corrupt banking methods blar blar blar

Cheers,

[gilly]

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-4090-0-14-14--.html


Surveillance Society

Secret Black Box Probe Will Monitor British Web Activity

Published on 05-03-2009

Source: www.daily.pk

SPY chiefs are pressing ahead with secret plans to monitor all internet use and telephone calls in Britain despite an announcement by Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, of a ministerial climbdown over public surveillance.

GCHQ, the government’s eavesdropping centre, is developing classified technology to intercept and monitor all e-mails, website visits and social networking sessions in Britain. The agency will also be able to track telephone calls made over the internet, as well as all phone calls to land lines and mobiles.

The £1 billion snooping project — called Mastering the Internet (MTI) — will rely on thousands of “black box” probes being covertly inserted across online infrastructure.

The top-secret programme began to be implemented last year, but its existence has been inadvertently disclosed through a GCHQ job advertisement carried in the computer trade press.

Last week, in what appeared to be a concession to privacy campaigners, Smith announced that she was ditching controversial plans for a single “big brother” database to store centrally all communications data in Britain.

“The government recognised the privacy implications of the move [and] therefore does not propose to pursue this move,” she said.

Grabbing favourable headlines, Smith announced that up to £2 billion of public money would instead be spent helping private internet and telephone companies to retain information for up to 12 months in separate databases.

However, she failed to mention that substantial additional sums — amounting to more than £1 billion over three years — had already been allocated to GCHQ for its MTI programme.

Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said Smith’s announcement appeared to be a “smokescreen”.

“We opposed the big brother database because it gave the state direct access to everybody’s communications. But this network of black boxes achieves the same thing via the back door,” Chakrabarti said.

Informed sources have revealed that a £200m contract has been awarded to Lockheed Martin, the American defence giant.

A second contract has been given to Detica, the British IT firm which has close ties to the intelligence agencies.

The sources said Iain Lobban, the GCHQ director, is overseeing the construction of a massive new complex inside the agency’s “doughnut” headquarters on the outskirts of Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.

A huge room of super-computers will help the agency to monitor — and record — data passing through black-box probes placed at critical traffic junctions with internet service providers and telephone companies, allowing GCHQ to spy at will.

An industry insider, who has been briefed on GCHQ’s plans, said he could not discuss the programme because he had signed the Official Secrets Act. However, he admitted that the project would mark a step change in the agency’s powers of surveillance.

At the moment the agency is able to use probes to monitor the content of calls and e-mails sent by specific individuals who are the subject of police or security service investigations.

Every interception must be authorised by a warrant signed by the home secretary or a minister of equivalent rank.

The new GCHQ internet-monitoring network will shift the focus of the surveillance state away from a few hundred targeted people to everyone in the UK.

“Although the paper [work] does not say it, its clear implication is that those kinds of probes should be extended to cover the entire population for the purposes of monitoring communications data,” said the industry source.

GCHQ placed an advertisement in the specialist IT press for a head of major contracts to be given “operational responsibility for the ‘Mastering the Internet’ (MTI) contract”. The senior official, to be paid an annual salary of up to £100,000, would lead the procurement of the hardware and the analysis tools needed to build and run the system.

Ministers have said they do not intend to snoop on the actual content of e-mails or telephone calls. The monitoring will instead focus on who an individual is communicating with or which websites and chat rooms they are visiting.

Advocates of the black-box system say it is essential if the authorities are to keep pace with the communications revolution. They say terrorists are stateless, highly mobile and their communications are difficult to detect among the billions of pieces of data passing through the internet.

Last year about 14% of telephone calls were made using voice over internet protocol (Voip) systems such as Skype. A report by a group of privy counsellors predicts that most calls will be made via the internet within five years. GCHQ said it did not want to discuss how the data it gathered would be used. David Leppard


And if anyone missed the announcement last week of the so called 'climb down' by J. Smith, mentioned above, it was a comical excercise in kidology.

99% of the news report I saw, focused on how very decent our government is, in their 11th hour recognition of the importance of our privacy.

The other 1% briefly mentioned that all the spying was still going to take place, but the data would be monitored & stored by different bodies, rather than than being collected by one source.

:mad:

[tracker]

well yeah , but its not secret now though lol.

we allknow that they are going to do this whether we like it or not because this country is not a democracy . the past proves this by the way they always bring out what they talk about .

we know that they always say that they might not bring things in , but we all know that they are insesant liers too and always lie and always do what they wish to "OUR" ------- COUNTRY !:cool:


what can we say ?

they are going to do this whether or not we agree , and guess what ?
they will suck it out from our tax money and there for make US pay for something that we DONOT agree with .:eek:

typical tyranny !:cool:

[killmicrosoft]

im pretty sure they said about the black box ten years ago.
Looks like bbc detector vans scenario to me

[ritchs]

mega-mega-bucks being spent on this shit while people are losing their jobs and homes.

How many terrorists did they catch with this?

If only one, or a possible one, then it was all well worth it, eh?

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[yozhik]

I thought that was the ruling months ago. Why haven't they even started yet? Who'll even know they've done it once they claim to have done? There should have been some stiff penalty imposed on them for the infringement of people's privacey by illegaly storing that data in the first place.

Exactly.

It was months ago.
They had (obviously) hoped we had forgotten and would credit them with the u-turn, rather than see it as an enforced adherence to a court ruling, upholding human rights.

We may be enslaved and bruised ... but we're not completely broken and ignorant. :rolleyes:

... much to their displeasure.

Sorry Jackboot Smith ... nice try ... back to the drawing board you go.

[dogwillgoogle]

See article in Sunday times link below. Sorry if someone else has posted it already. :)

How are they going to police this? Despite the technology I can't see it working.:confused:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6211101.ece

[whizzer]

See article in Sunday times link below. Sorry if someone else has posted it already. :)

How are they going to police this? Despite the technology I can't see it working.:confused:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6211101.ece

J.Smith is a f*cking nazi!!! and so are all her little nazi friends!! She really is pushing for a police state.
When she was first appointed to her position she musta been given a copy of 1984 to use as a template to work by!! cow:mad:

[gilly]

There's already a thread running on this dogwillgoogle.

I'll just merge them together. :)

[chaste]

"The top-secret programme began to be implemented last year, but its existence has been inadvertently disclosed through a GCHQ job advertisement carried in the computer trade press."

Ahh, there's bad news and good. The bad news is that we don't even know what's happening to us, the good news is that to be a really competent evil mastermind you need brains.

[gilly]

Merging this with existing thread.

[dogwillgoogle]

There's already a thread running on this dogwillgoogle.

I'll just merge them together. :)

Thanks I didn't see it...:D
XX

[gilly]

Me neither - I started one this morning too! :D

I think Jackboot riles people up so much, she provokes nearly as many threads as Swine Flu!