Aussie Unemployed Youth may be sent to bootcamps

[dallas18]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25418503-421,00.html
Rudd Government considering sending youth unemployed to boot camps

Boot camps for youth unemployed considered
Cabinet sources say plan has backing
Defence reportedly opposed to idea

THE Federal Government wants military-style "boot camp" training overseen by the Department of Defence for Australia's unemployed youth, Cabinet sources confirmed last night.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned Canberra is keen on the move to stop the loss of a generation to welfare as a result of the recession.

It would also instil self discipline and structure into the lives of problem young job seekers. Cabinet sources confirmed to The Sunday Telegraph yesterday the plan had been promoted at "the highest levels", but it's unclear whether it will make the final cut for the Budget on Tuesday week.

In a Budget move aimed at avoiding losing a generation to welfare dependency, the Government will also offer the young jobless an extra $2000 in benefits in return for training.

Youth unemployment is expected to spike in the recession.

Key figures in Defence are fiercely resisting the idea of being responsible for training the unemployed and sources said the "unworkable" program could include weapons training.

They said the idea was being pushed amid growing concerns within the Government that youth unemployment was likely to hit politically unacceptable levels by the end of the year.

While ministers are broadly supportive of the initiative, some in Defence see it as a cynical exercise to artificially cut the official number of young jobless.

[palomino]

Yep
all part of "their plan"
They are monsters. Sending innocent babes to war. Gutless, sons of bitches. All of them, in all countries.


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25416197-661,00.html

Federal Government to increase defence spending to $300 billion

[guuna]

conscription via the back door. The same thing is being planned here in the UK by Broon and in the States by the Obamanation.

[burnttoast]

It would also instil self discipline and structure into the lives of problem young job seekers

The problem is there aren't any F*&^ing jobs FFS!....Australia's well on it's way to it's old penal colony ways....unreal.

[zetetic0void]

I added this comment

"This is a scary and pathetically shameful idea by the elite controllers to garner more converts to militarization. People have to start thinking about the bigger picture... these government people don't care about you or your children... they care about themselves and their agendas and their money under the table from their criminal friends. It's time people said NO to these pathetic hypocritical "leaders" and their dreadful ideas at converting youth into brainless drones to fight their stupid agenda-greed-driven wars of occupation in foreign lands (IRAQ! ... maybe these government bozos should answer where the bloody WMD were in IRAQ when Bush, Cheney and Rumsfled said they knew where they were , before they start training more youth to serve their lying agendas!)"


I'll see if it gets posted.

[ownoiz]

I'll see if it gets posted.

Its a murdoch site and newspapers.

Let us know how it goes.

Me, they know all my IPs i use, both the Adelaide one and when i bounce off my Melbourne IP :D

For i have tried in the past, even subtle comments.

I cant even get a purposely worded sheeple comment anywhere near that site anymore unless i use alternative IPs.
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[ownoiz]

Looks like "tom of vic" got one in...

Youtube.."New World order" and "Bilderberg group" WAKE UP

I suppose its too close to conspiracy thoeries so they let it through...sheeple who think thoughts such as this will just be amused...

This is a fantastic and positive idea. It will help young and unemployed Australians to become disciplined and contributing members of society. It will also help our Armed Forces to have a subsidiary source from where they can draw numbers if and when there is an emergency or threat of war. Becoming a part of a discplined force will kewp young people away from negative activities related to drugs and alcohol and other criminal activites which are linked to lack of self esteem and boredom due to having no jobs and loss of self respect.

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[dallas18]

haha yeah it can be

heres another funny comment

What a great idea!! I have been saying this for years. Send all "long-term" unemployed, who have been on unemployment benefit for 12 months+ to boot camp, or National Service, or get them to DO something for the money they receive. I used to work for an Employment Agency, and it annoyed the hell out of me to have all these able bodied unemployed people sitting around expecting a handout as if it was their due. EVERYBODY and I mean everybody who wants to work can have a job!! Maybe not the job they want, but as a stepping stone and for not living off other people like myself and many others who pay for these bludgers for doing nothing. What is wrong with National Service? Discipline, is that a bad thing?? The government SHOULD have the power to force these people into a boot camp!! If they (the unemployed) can force the government to give them money for nothing, than surely the government can expect something in return. I hope finally someone will use their brain and do something about this bludgers. Forget about the $2000, that can go towards paying back the unemployment benefit they have received so far. In most countries unemployment benefit cuts out after 6-8 months, maybe we should consider that too!!

anyway as usual sounds like australia is following in the steps of the US and Obama

[dallas18]

here is some more related and longer articles

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,,25419282-5006301,00.html
May 02, 2009 11:30pm

Army boot camp for job-seekers

THE Federal Government is considering army-style "boot camp" training overseen by the Defence Department to instil self-discipline and structure into the lives of young problem job-seekers who risk falling through the training cracks in the system.

Young jobless would be offered one to three-month training positions with the department, which has been formally asked to cost the program.

The nation's growing young jobless will also be offered an extra $2000 in benefits in next week's Federal Budget in return for special training aimed at stopping a generation becoming welfare dependent as a result of the recession.

The Budget is expected to include an extra $14.60 a fortnight for Newstart and Parenting Payment recipients in the form of a temporary training supplement.

The supplement would be limited to people without Year 12 or equivalent qualifications, or those who need to undertake training to re-skill. Recipients who engage in training for 12 months will receive an additional $2239 in the form of the existing $950 Training and Learning Bonus announced as part of the Nation Building and Jobs plan, $208 in Education Entry payments and $1081 in a new fortnightly training allowance over the course of one year.

Cabinet sources yesterday confirmed the boot-camp proposal had been promoted at "the highest levels" of the Government but it remained unclear whether it would make the final cut of the Budget. Only 10 days out from Budget night, key figures in the Defence Department are fiercely resisting the idea of having responsibility for military-style training for the unemployed without extra funding.

Defence sources said in its current form, the boot-camp proposal could include weapons training, describing that as unworkable.

Senior Government sources said that with Defence suffering low recruitment levels, it made sense to require young job-seekers on welfare to get training inside the military, which could lead them to joining up on a full-time basis.

It is believed the idea was being pushed amid growing concerns within the Government that youth unemployment was likely to hit politically unacceptable levels by the end of the year.

Youth unemployment reached more than 24 per cent in 1993, sparking an emotional community debate about raising a "lost" generation. While ministers are broadly supportive, elements of the Defence Department see the plan as a cynical exercise to artificially cut the official young jobless rate.


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http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,25418588-5001030,00.html
May 03, 2009 12:00am
Military future for young jobless

AMONG many problems looming for Australia in these times of economic and geo-political change are these: unemployment will rise and we will need more military personnel.

What's the connection? Young people.

Hard economic times traditionally bite hardest on school-leavers and people in their early 20s. In the last big financial downturn in the early 1990s, youth unemployment reached 24 per cent.

Which means the Government is facing the nasty prospect of another generation of young Australians who find the early formative years of their careers hampered by the fear of unemployment, the struggle to hold down meaningful work, and the consequent disillusionment and social problems which stem from joblessness.

As for the military, the Government has clearly set out its determination to increase the funding, operations and importance of our defence forces.

In a strategic overview officially released yesterday, the Government commits to a multi-billion dollar growth in defence spending over the coming 20 years, including more ships, aircraft, submarines and armoured vehicles.

That means the staffing crisis already gripping defence - desperately poor retention rates and high levels of dissatisfaction among personnel - is about to become even more critical.

So the Federal Government is seriously considering a solution that just might help address both problems: requiring young unemployed people to undertake boot-camp style military training.

It's almost too neat for words, and a fascinating insight into the ideological unpredictability of Kevin Rudd.

The highest levels of this Labor government is giving serious consideration to a concept that might once have been considered a neo-conservative kneejerk.

It's a surprise - but it just might work.

Giving young unemployed people some work skills, a sense of purpose and vital connections to the working world cannot possibly be a bad thing.

And although defence chiefs are, privately, quick to point out they have better things to do than wipe the noses of Australia's delicate youth, they have so far failed to come up with any real solution to woeful recruitment and retention rates.

Lately, defence recruitment campaigns have been avoided all possible mention of uniforms, danger or boot-polishing.

Instead, potential candidates have been invited to take virtual-reality tours of submarines, play online video strategy games and learn about the ADF's rich opportunities for health-care, cheap housing and higher education.

"Great pay," say the defence websites. "Sporting fun. See Australia and the world."

Recruitment is rising - in 2007-08, ADF reached 85 per cent of its sign-up targets.

But there's room for improvement.

Under other Budget proposals, young unemployed people who participate in training would get a $41.60 allowance bonus each fortnight.

Maybe introducing otherwise unoccupied young people to the realities of military life will result in some revelations for both sides.

Experienced warriors may learn that Generation Y does, in fact, have plenty to offer - and, at the same time, young people may discover the ADF can offer greater career stability than watching daytime TV.