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synergy777

18-07-2007, 02:35 PM

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

Ancient Egyptian Flying Vehicles :These images were found on the ceiling beams of a 3000-year old New Kingdom Temple, located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos.

India - Vimanas

A vimana is a mythological flying machine, described in the ancient literature of India. References to these flying machines are commonplace in ancient Indian texts, even describing their use in warfare. As well as being able to fly within Earth's atmosphere, vimanas were also said to be able to travel into space and travel submerged underwater.

Descriptions in the Vedas and later Indian literature detail vimanas of various shapes and sizes:

In the Vedas: the sun, and flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals, usually horses (but the Vedic god Paksan's chariot is pulled by goats).

The "agnihotra-vimana" with two engines. (Agni means fire in Sanskrit.)

The "gaja-vimana" with more engines. (Gaja means elephant in Sanskrit.)

Other types named after the kingfisher, ibis, and other animals.

The word comes from Sanskrit and seems to be vi-mana = 'apart' or 'having been measured". The word also means a part of a Hindu temple. The meaning of the word likely changed in this sequence:

An area of land measured out and set apart to be used for sacred purposes.
Temple A god's palace. In the Ramayana: the demon-lord Ravana's flying palace called Pushpaka. In later Indian writings: other flying vehicles, and sometimes as a poetic word for ordinary ground vehicles. In some modern Indian languages (e.g. Gujarati), the word vimana means ordinary real aircraft.

Vimanavatthu (Pali for "Vimana Stories") uses the word "vimana" with a different meaning: "a small piece of text used as the inspiration for a Buddhist sermon".

PICS AND MORE INFO AT LINK

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ufos.html

UFOS AND THE BIBLE
Aliens: the Angelic Conspiracy

ANGELS ARE INTELLIGENT BEINGS WHO ARE NOT HUMAN, MYSTERIOUS BEINGS WHO ARE "ALIEN" TO US. Angels are non-human intelligent beings who have superior technology and comprehension of physics, having been present at the creation of the material universe.

The concept of an ANGEL comes from the Greek aggelos; from the Hebrew ago for "one going forth" or "one leading"; messenger. Not all angels are "good". Not all angels continue to do God's will, although all angels were originally created by God to convey His message. Some angels rebelled against God's plan. Some angels go forth to give their own message; some angels go forth to lead mankind AWAY from the truth.

But all angels are more intelligent and powerful beings than mere humans.
The angels are represented throughout the Bible as a body of spiritual beings intermediate between God and men: "You have made him (man) a little less than the angels" (Psalm 8:6). They, equally with man, are created beings; "praise ye Him, all His angels: praise ye Him, all His hosts . . . for He spoke and they were made. He commanded and they were created" (Psalm 148:2, 5: Colossians 1:16, 17).

It has been said that Christians are "pretty narrow minded" to limit the population of the universe to merely GOD, ANGELS, AND MAN. After all, there are "billions and billions" of stars which perhaps have planets, which perhaps have civilizations etc. However, within the classification of angels [non-human intelligent beings] exist diverse myriads. Hierarchies of innumerable angels still populate the universe. These angelic non-human intelligent beings built civilizations in our solar system -- even upon the Earth -- before Adam.

God is known throughout the Bible as the LORD OF HOSTS, Job 25:2:

Rule and fear are with Him
He makes peace in his high places.
Is there any number to his armies?

Among these myriads of angels are those who do their own will instead of God's. Those rebel angels in many guises are the intelligent non-human beings behind UFOs and the paranormal. *THEY* have a plan, their message is a deceptive one.

It's incremental acclimatization
from THEM!

"Why Israel?" UFOs in Mid-East
Israel and Jordan UFO Flap (first posted in 1996, perhaps outdated but the Israel flap continues even into 2003)

The book of the Jubilees remarks that Jared or Yeh-red, an Old Testament patriarch, was so called because in his days the angels descended upon the earth - Yaw-rad "descend". It is interesting to note that "Jordan" comes from that same root word denoting "descent, coming down or falling" - Yar-dane "the place of the descent". Jordan, "place of the descent", is located in the ancient boundary of Israel. Israel is currently a major location for sighting UFOs, and the fallen angels in disguise as "aliens".

VEDAs, ENOCH, ALL HAVE FLYING MACHINES, CHARIOTS OF FIRE.
ezeikel, was in contact with chariots of fire in the bible, the book of enoch was ommitted. the fallen bred with earth women, or artificially inseminated them to create hybrids/nephilm, the giants,etc. i think the souls of these nephilm, are the demons of today, the ones used/called upon in black magic, the ones battled in exorcisms. there is evidence in the bible, bones have been found, the vimanas/foo fighters, the thule society. then the operation paperclip after ww2, which was followed by an explosion of tech. look at the b2 grumman bomber, the f117 a nighthawk/stealth. look at semi conductor/tranistors, optical technology eg laser/optic fibres/cds etc. the leap from magnetic/tape to opitical/laserdisc

http://www.ufobc.ca/Reports/aliensreligion.htm

remember angels are messengers. angels do have free will, if they didn't, then why would satan rebel, and lose to archangel michael. also cydonia/asteroid belt.there are good/bad angels. remember the archangels, michael, raphael, gabriel and ariel.

i stress the fact religion was not bad until the elite took control of it. they have corrupted it, knowing full well when one becomes aware of the corruptions, they move away from it, hence completely disconnecting from the source, which leaves you anchorless/rudderless. the message of religion was harmony/unity/equality/love, which all teachers from krishna, buddha, yashuah etc stated.

synergy777

18-07-2007, 02:53 PM

nephilm/giants. has some good stuff some faults also eg teh aryan invasiosn. the origins was india, however there could have been "invasion" back into the motherland. vedic evidence eg vedas, suggests indians were already advanced prior to these re-invasions. i think migration follows the fibonacci, the starting point being ethiopia/sudan/kenya = east africa then to india, then up into russia/back into persia finally settling in north europe etc.

http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Winter/Giants/

Fibonacci number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lightbeing

18-07-2007, 02:55 PM

I love all this type of stuff, I feel the 3000 year old glyphs at Abydos point towards the Atlantis civilisation, yes I believe in this as well!;):) So where we are now in our technology has been done before, many millennium ago................

synergy777

18-07-2007, 03:11 PM

bro its a time loop. cvilisation starts, they progress to a stage of technology where its becomes more powerful than they can they can manage. the civilisation through decadance, war etc destroys itself, or suffers a natural calamity. i think its crazy, but something was where the asteroid belt was (as due to gravity/big bang etc, they would form into a planet, like the rest of the celestial bodies, why are they apart?) was mardek/nibiru?, and something could have occured on mars. they used up resources, messed the eco system up, ravaged the planet with war. same thing on this planet. atlantis/lemuria, is west/east, same thing. mans instincts are the same, lust, greed, hate, power etc.

i am indian, when i was a kid, the elders told us stories about vimanas, vedic empires. we use to laugh at their crazy stories, now we know they were right. even in the rama/sita story/diwali, ravanna used flying ships/vimanas to get from india to sri lanka. add in egypt, the america, china, etc the china have the dropas, dogon in mali/africa etc, flying/feathered serpents in south america, star people in america by the natives. europe has none why, the europeans were living in these lands with us, they hadn't migrated then. europe was the new world of the past, unexplored terrority.

the past is great mystery, the truth is outthere. even oppenheimer said if was the first time the nuclear bomb had been invented in THIS age. this is from the man who invented it, he used data from the vedic texts to create the atom bomb. thats why he used the shiva quote, " for i have become death, the destroyer of worlds". this is why after he invented it, he wanted to shut it down, went against the authorities, to no avail. to me teh atomic frission, is the intial spark of creation, similar energy to create universes/big bang, thats why its so powerful. ask yourself, why could such small amounts of material, create such such big explosions, its energy, pure energy.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/alien_history.htm

oppenheimer
http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/shiva/shiva.html

http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas.html

Julius Robert Oppenheimer, the principle developer of the atomic bomb, stated that "The Vedas are the greatest privilege of this century." During the explosion of the first atomic bomb, Oppenheimer quoted several Bhagavad-gita verses from the 11th chapter, such as:

"Death I am, cause of destruction of the worlds..."

When Oppenheimer was asked if this is the first nuclear explosion, he significantly replied: "Yes, in modern times," implying that ancient nuclear explosions may have previously occurred

thirdwave

18-07-2007, 03:52 PM

its either knowledge from way back when they did have advanced technology, or people have had visions of future times and drew them out....more than likely under an altered state of consciousness..

chattanova

18-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Great links synergy777:)

Here are some more http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

I love these collections, this is evidence in itself but thats surely not enough for the public:mad:

6000 BC from Tassili, Sahara Desert, North Africa.

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/7/18/f_ufo6000m_edd5aeb.jpg

Two cave paintings from Tanzania. Both are estimated to be up to 29,000 years old. The one on the left is located in Itolo and depicts several disc shaped objects. The other painting is from Kolo shows four entities surrounding a women. Notice also the entity looking down from inside some sort of box or object.

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/7/18/f_ufotanzia1m_ea75dde.jpg

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/7/18/f_ufotanzia2m_47d25d0.jpg

lightbeing

18-07-2007, 04:37 PM

synergy777

18-07-2007, 05:32 PM

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6161/heiroufo2iv9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2097/b2bomber3xl3.jpg

maybe time behaves different in in higher dimensions, beyond the 3/4 we live in. scientists have so far found 11 dimensions. so maybe when they access these dimensions, the two timelines are at different speed. hence you get the missed time/slow time feature.

Dimension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Time
Time is often referred to as the "fourth dimension". It is, in essence, one way to measure physical change. It is perceived differently from the three spatial dimensions in that there is only one of it, and that movement seems to occur at a fixed rate and in one direction.

The equations used in physics to model reality often do not treat time in the same way that humans perceive it. In particular, the equations of classical mechanics are symmetric with respect to time, and equations of quantum mechanics are typically symmetric if both time and other quantities (such as charge and parity) are reversed. In these models, the perception of time flowing in one direction is an artifact of the laws of thermodynamics (we perceive time as flowing in the direction of increasing entropy).

The best-known treatment of time as a dimension is Poincaré and Einstein's special relativity (and extended to general relativity), which treats perceived space and time as parts of a four-dimensional manifold.

Additional dimensions
Theories such as string theory and M-theory predict that the space in general has in fact 10 or 11 dimensions, respectively, but that the universe, when measured along these additional dimensions, is subatomic in size. As a result, we perceive only the three spatial dimensions that have macroscopic size. We as humans can only perceive up to the third dimension while we have knowledge of our travel through the fourth. We, however can not see anything past the fourth.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5666/egyptaliensbj1.jpg

either egyptians had an vivid imagination, or these greys are the inbuilt archetypes that carl jung was talking about, or they are real. the bible talks about them, so is the bible wrong, if it is, then what else is wrong.

felakuti

18-07-2007, 07:24 PM

@Synergy

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5666/egyptaliensbj1.jpg

Now THAT'S stunning! ;)

supertzar

18-07-2007, 07:37 PM

That's actually a flower pot if you look at a better picture of it. I don't have time to find it now. There is a lot of amazing information available, but that particular work of art is quite mundane in reality.

chattanova

19-07-2007, 09:48 AM

I've ordered and are waiting for the book 'The Alien Chronicles' to arrive.
It's revealing this subject,
have any of you read it before?

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/19/f_4178RBQBK3Lm_17d651b.jpg

synergy777

20-07-2007, 07:20 PM

http://www.livinginthelightms.com/shambhalaufos

In various kinds of Asian and South Asian texts, we find references to flying machines and aerial vehicles. Chinese and Indian stories tell of peoples or individual artisans who constructed devices for travelling through the air. The stories take many different forms, including quite fanciful romances. Others present a picture of inventors taking pains to understand the basic principles of flight, and crafting machines of wood to achieve this goal."

- Dr. Benjamin B. Olshin, "Mechanical Mythology: Private Descriptions of Flying Machines as Found in Early Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Other Texts" (draft copy)

The word vimana is purportedly derived from vamana: "he who is able at three strides to take measure of the entire earth and heavens."

"In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called vimanas. These fall into two categories: (1) manmade craft that resemble airplanes and fly with the aid of birdlike wings, and (2) unstreamlined structures that fly in a mysterious manner and are generally not made by human beings. The machines in category (1) are described mainly in medieval, secular Sanskrit works dealing with architecture, automata, military siege engines, and other mechanical contrivances. Those in category (2) are described in ancient works such as the Rg Veda, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, and the Puranas, and they have many features reminiscent of UFOs."

- Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities - Ancient Insights into Modern UFO Phenomena

"One time while King Citaketu was traveling in outer space on a brilliantly effulgent airplane given to him by Lord Vishnu, he saw Lord Siva..."

"The arrows released by Lord Siva appeared like fiery beams emanating from the sun globe and covered the three residential airplanes, which could then no longer be seen." - Srimad Bhagasvatam, Sixth Canto, Part 3

The so-called 'Rama Empire' of Northern India and Pakistan developed at least fifteen thousand years ago on the Indian sub-continent and was a nation of many large, sophisticated cities, many of which are still to be found in the deserts of Pakistan, northern, and western India. Rama...was ruled by 'enlightened Priest-Kings' who governed the cities.

"The seven greatest capital cities of Rama were known in classical Hindu texts as 'The Seven Rishi Cities'. According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying machines which were called 'vimanas'. The ancient Indian epic describes a vimana as a double- deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome, much as we would imagine a flying saucer. It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a 'melodious sound'. There were at least four different types of vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ('cigar shaped airships')."

- D. Hatcher Childress, "Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology" In The Anti-Gravity Handbook

"An aerial chariot, the Pushpaka, conveys many people to the capital of Ayodhya. The sky is full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night,but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare."

- Mahavira of Bhavabhuti (A Jain text of the eighth century culled from older texts and traditions)

"The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of all the Indian texts, describe vimanas of various shapes and sizes: the 'ahnihotra-vimana' with two engines, the 'elephant-vimana' with more engines, and other types named after the kingfisher, ibis and other animals."

- D. Hatcher Childress, "Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology" In The Anti-Gravity Handbook

"Now Vata's chariot's greatness! Breaking goes it,
And Thunderous is its noise,
To heaven it touches,
Makes light lurid [a red fiery glare], and whirls dust upon the earth."
- Rig-Veda (Vata is the Aryan god of wind.)

synergy777

20-07-2007, 07:24 PM

But the Saubha itself has escaped the attack, and at last Krishna hurls against it his 'favorite fire weapon', a discus having the shape of the 'haloed sun'. Severed in two by the impact, the aerial city falls down.
"Salva himself is killed, and with his death this episode of The Mahabharata comes to an end." Reader's Digest Mysteries of the Unexplained

from the above link.

december

20-07-2007, 10:55 PM

i am indian, when i was a kid, the elders told us stories about vimanas, vedic empires. we use to laugh at their crazy stories, now we know they were right. even in the rama/sita story/diwali, ravanna used flying ships/vimanas to get from india to sri lanka. add in egypt, the america, china, etc the china have the dropas, dogon in mali/africa etc, flying/feathered serpents in south america, star people in america by the natives. europe has none why, the europeans were living in these lands with us, they hadn't migrated then. europe was the new world of the past, unexplored terrority.

the past is great mystery, the truth is outthere. even oppenheimer said if was the first time the nuclear bomb had been invented in THIS age. this is from the man who invented it, he used data from the vedic texts to create the atom bomb. thats why he used the shiva quote, " for i have become death, the destroyer of worlds". this is why after he invented it, he wanted to shut it down, went against the authorities, to no avail. to me teh atomic frission, is the intial spark of creation, similar energy to create universes/big bang, thats why its so powerful. ask yourself, why could such small amounts of material, create such such big explosions, its energy, pure energy.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/alien_history.htm

oppenheimer
http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/shiva/shiva.html

http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas.html

Julius Robert Oppenheimer, the principle developer of the atomic bomb, stated that "The Vedas are the greatest privilege of this century." During the explosion of the first atomic bomb, Oppenheimer quoted several Bhagavad-gita verses from the 11th chapter, such as:

"Death I am, cause of destruction of the worlds..."

When Oppenheimer was asked if this is the first nuclear explosion, he significantly replied: "Yes, in modern times," implying that ancient nuclear explosions may have previously occurred

Besides Vedic texts there is also a Genetic Evidence for the Aryan Invasion of India

The following article first appeared in Newsday, and then the San Francisco Chronicle in May 1999:

http://www.drue.net/images/sf_chron_logo.gif

San Francisco Chronicle, 26 May 1999

History of Ancient Indian Conquest Told in Modern Genes, Experts Say
Robert Cooke, Newsday

Like an indelible signature enduring through a hundred generations, genes that entered India when conquering hordes swooped down from the north thousands of years ago are still there, and remain entrenched at the top of the caste system, scientists report. Analyses of the male Y chromosome, plus genes hidden in small cellular bodies called mitochondria, show that today's genetic patterns agree with accounts of ancient Indo-European warriors' conquering the Indian subcontinent.

The invaders apparently shoved the local men aside, took their women and set up the rigid caste system that exists today. Their descendants are still the elite within Hindu society.

INVADING CAUCASOIDS

Thus today's genetic patterns, the researchers explained, vividly reflect a historic event, or events, that occurred 3,000 or 4,000 years ago. The gene patterns ``are consistent with a historical scenario in which invading Caucasoids -- primarily males -- established the caste system and occupied the highest positions, placing the indigenous population, who were more similar to Asians, in lower caste positions.''

The researchers, from the University of Utah and Andhra Pradesh University in India, used two sets of genes in their analyses.

One set, from the mitochondria, are only passed maternally and can be used to track female inheritance. The other, on the male-determining Y chromosome, can only be passed along paternally and thus track male inheritance.

The data imply, then, ``that there was a group of males with European affinities who were largely responsible for this invasion 3,000 or 4,000 years ago,'' said geneticist Lynn Jorde of the University of Utah.
If women had accompanied the invaders, he said, the evidence should be seen in the mitochondrial genes, but it is not evident.

According to geneticist Douglas Wallace of Emory University in Atlanta, the work reported by Jorde and his colleagues ``is very interesting, and is certainly worth further study.''

Along with Jorde, the research team included Michael Bamshad, W.S. Watkins and M.E. Dixon from Utah and B.B. Rao, B.V.R. Prasad and J.M. Naidu, from Andhra Pradesh University.

UPWARDLY MOBILE WOMEN

By studying both sets of genetic markers, the research team found clear evidence echoing what is still seen socially, that women can be upwardly mobile, in terms of caste, if they marry higher-caste men. In contrast, men generally do not move higher, because women rarely marry men from lower castes, the researchers said.

``Our expectations in this natural experiment are borne out when we look at the genes,'' said Jorde. ``It's one of the few cases where we know the mating situation in a population for 150 generations. So it's kind of a test for how well the genes reflect a population's history.''

The ancient story holds that invaders known as Indo-Europeans, or true Aryans, came from Eastern Europe or western Asia and conquered the Indian subcontinent. The people they subdued descended from the original inhabitants who had arrived far earlier from Africa and from other parts of Asia.

During the genetic studies, in 1996 and 1997, researchers took blood samples from hundreds of people in southern India. The analyses compared the genes from 316 caste members and 330 members of tribal populations, looking for signs of Asian, European and African ancestry.

http://www.dalitstan.org/holocaust/invasion/histgene.html

synergy777

22-07-2007, 08:55 PM

like i said reinvasion from previously migrated indians would/could have happened. but the timescale of 3000/4000 years, the vedas predates this. so maybe european invaders came and attached themselves to the vedic culture as a spoil of war.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=1465

Linguists seek a time when we spoke as one
2007 07 22

By Moises Velasquez-Manoff | usatoday.com

A controversial research project is trying to trace all human language to a common root.

Around 50,000 years ago, something happened to our ancestors in Africa. Anatomically modern humans, who had existed for at least 150,000 years prior, suddenly began behaving differently. Until then, their conduct scarcely differed from that of their hominid cousins, the Neanderthals. Both buried their dead; both used stone tools; and as social apes, both had some form of communication, which some think was gestural.

But then, "almost overnight, everything changes very rapidly," says Merritt Ruhlen, a lecturer in the Anthropological Sciences Department at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. Humans began making much better stone tools. They started burying their dead with accouterments that suggested religion. And perhaps most telling, Homo sapiens, the "wise" apes, began creating art.

"People started having imagination at this time much more than they had earlier," says Dr. Ruhlen.

Many scientists think that fully modern human language enabled this "great leap forward." Language enabled abstract thought, the deciding factor in archaic humans becoming – well, us. And because scientists surmise that language arose only once, they believe that before leaving Africa to colonize the world, all humankind spoke one language. Linguists have dubbed it "proto-world" or "proto-sapiens."

A multidisciplinary team of scientists at the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico is working toward reconstructing that mother of all languages. Headed by Nobel Laureate physicist Murray Gell-Mann, the international Evolution of Human Languages (EHL) project is developing a freely accessible etymological database of the world's languages. Where possible, EHL linguists are attempting to reconstruct – and then compare – ancestor languages, moving ever closer to the first human language. Viewed by many linguists as a fringe movement, the project has attracted much criticism. Many linguists say that historical languages cannot be studied beyond an 8,000-year threshold; they change too much, they say. Some take issue with the project's methods: A few words shared among reconstructed languages doesn't prove a familial relationship, they insist, especially far back in time.

Languages change constantly. Speakers invent or borrow words to suit their needs. But for reasons not completely understood, some languages change more than others. Italian, for example, has remained much closer to ancestral Latin than French. Lithuanian has many words that almost exactly match Sanskrit, which was spoken 3,500 years ago. And some language "families" like Afroasiatic retain words in common even after more than 10,000 years of divergent evolution.

"That time limit is totally wrong," says John Bengtson, vice president of the Association for the Study of Language in Prehistory in Cambridge, Mass. "Languages that have been separated 8,000 years get down to a low percentage of common words. However, that low percentage seems to be very stable."

And there begins EHL's approach. Within languages, linguists think that because certain words – including the pronoun "we" and the number "one" – form the basis of a functional language, they are much less likely to change or be lost. EHL linguists begin by comparing this "basic lexicon." They include "words that are thoroughly essential and must have been in human language before significant cultural advances were made," writes EHL team member George Starostin, a linguist at the Russian State University for the Humanities in Moscow, in an e-mail.

Using this method, EHL has grouped all the world's languages into 12 linguistic superfamilies. They've tentatively grouped four of these superfamilies, which include languages of Eurasia, North Africa, and some Pacific islands (and maybe languages of the Americas as well) into one super-superfamily dubbed "Borean." An ancestor to a large share of today's languages, Borean was spoken some 16,000 years ago when glaciers covered much of Europe and North America, they say.

EHL linguists use several methods. One – the most controversial, but not the most widely used, says Starostin – involves matching words and meanings across languages. For example, Ruhlen and Bengtson have noticed that a word roughly corresponding to "water," which they render in proto-sapiens as "AQWA," appears in many languages. In Latin it's "aqua"; in Japanese, "aka" means "bilge water"; in Chechen, meanwhile, "aq" means "to suck"; in an African Kung dialect, "kau" means "to rain"; and in Central American Yucatec, "uk" means "to be thirsty."

But critics look at etymologies like these and see only problems. They're too loose with meanings and sounds, they say. And too many alternate explanations exist: Maybe the word was borrowed from one language and spread to the others. Perhaps it's onomatopoetic, a word that sounds like what it is. ("Cock-a-doodle-doo" is an onomatopoetic word that appears in similar form in many languages, but that doesn't prove relation.) Finally, the shorter the word – in some of the languages, just one syllable rather than two or three – the greater the possibility of a chance match.

"You've presented this list of words, but it looks like you can explain these lists in several different ways," says Lyle Campbell, a professor of linguistics at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. "Their data is really easy to challenge, and it's really easy to find words that are similar to one another across languages."

EHL linguists argue that they're only doing exactly what Sir William Jones, who first postulated a common ancestor for classical Greek, Latin, and Sanskrit, did in the 18th century. (Indo-European, the eventual result of Jones's initial observations, is perhaps the most widely accepted language family.) Historical linguistics begins by observing similarities that occur more frequently than dictated by chance, they say – and they're just starting.

The comparison to Jones also underscores another argument central to EHL's endeavor. The further one moves back in time, the more related languages should resemble one another, they believe. "It is more risky because you're comparing two or more hypotheticals to arrive at an even more hypothetical construction," says Mr. Bengtson, "but we think it's still a valid thing to try to do."

Human genetic evidence appears to support EHL's basic assumptions. The human genome indicates that all humanity traces its ancestry to as few as 1,000 individuals who lived between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago. This small founding population may explain how the capacity for language spread so quickly. "Bottlenecks play a very important part in human evolution," says Ruhlen. "This was the first major bottleneck."

Genetics also suggests two separate migrations out of Africa. One followed the south coast of Asia, ending up in Australia at least 45,000 years ago. The other took the land route through the Middle East into Central Asia, where they went both west into Europe and east, eventually reaching the Americas.

Very tentatively, EHL has grouped the world's languages into three super-superfamilies corresponding to these migrations: those that correspond with the coastal route, which include Papuan languages; those that correspond with the land route out of Africa, descendants of Borean, the best reconstructed; and the "click" languages spoken by the San, or "Bushmen," of southern Africa. Scientists think that the San most resemble the first modern humans. Their language, almost unique in its use of click sounds that perhaps other early languages lost, may best conserve traces of proto-sapiens.

Recently, EHL further refined its hypothesis. How could the 16,000-year-old Borean have engendered the lion's share of Eurasian, North African, and American languages? Some 20,000 years ago, at the peak of the last ice age, the world lost much of its linguistic diversity, they argue. Advancing glaciers pushed humanity south, mashing linguistic groups together. As in later periods of human history – like now – only a few languages emerged from that mixing. Borean, they say, was one of them.

Copyright 2007 Christian Science Monitor

Article from: Linguists seek a time when we spoke as one

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chattanova

23-07-2007, 10:47 AM

Masolino da Panicale
"Fondazione della chiesa di Santa Maria Maggiore a Roma" (circa 1428)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8950/masolinomiracolonevejb6.jpg

klinker

23-07-2007, 01:09 PM

Baalbeck is very interesting in this regard.

http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/

http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/boulay-index-en.html

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_5b1.htm

synergy777

26-07-2007, 03:32 PM

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/entity.html

Negative Entity Phenomenon
by Dr. Barbara Young

Posted: 00:39 July 25, 2007

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The belief in possession or entities ruling over a personality is found in religious writings since the beginning of history.

Unacknowledged as reality in the fields of psychology, possession symptoms are treated as various forms of schizophrenia or illness.

During the 1960s I was developing and teaching a Divine Meditation into the Light of God. And, during the meditation sessions, I noticed small black entities leaving either the mouth or genital area. Taking notice, I began to center interest on all data of possession I could find, and centered part of my efforts on the psychological profile of a typical host.

I discovered that patient backgrounds varied, but consistently contained similar themes - extended periods of combat, abusive use of drugs or alcohol, prisoner of war accompanied by torture, child abuse, and spousal abuse. I theorized that lower biological and spiritual frequencies acted like a beacon to attract any black entities in the general area of the person in question. At the time an entity chooses its host, it "flies" as it were into an orifice. The host may get a glimpse of the entity entering into, say the mouth, which is felt like a swelling sensation after it lodges itself at the base of the brain or spinal column. Shortly there after, the host is driven into increased anger, negative behavior, or substance abuse.

As soon as the black entities have anchored themselves onto the spinal column or at the base of the brain, they project telepathic patterns of pure evil that activates and add intensity to the already present negative emotions the host has accumulated. And, with each amplified explosive action, the memory of the incident is increased in intensity feeding upon its self, over and over.

Entity Removal

As a matter of physics - the entity repelling mechanism is a matter of crating opposite polarity fields of energy

Negative Entity Phenomenon
by Dr. Barbara Young

Posted: 00:39 July 25, 2007

<
The belief in possession or entities ruling over a personality is found in religious writings since the beginning of history.

Unacknowledged as reality in the fields of psychology, possession symptoms are treated as various forms of schizophrenia or illness.

During the 1960s I was developing and teaching a Divine Meditation into the Light of God. And, during the meditation sessions, I noticed small black entities leaving either the mouth or genital area. Taking notice, I began to center interest on all data of possession I could find, and centered part of my efforts on the psychological profile of a typical host.

I discovered that patient backgrounds varied, but consistently contained similar themes - extended periods of combat, abusive use of drugs or alcohol, prisoner of war accompanied by torture, child abuse, and spousal abuse. I theorized that lower biological and spiritual frequencies acted like a beacon to attract any black entities in the general area of the person in question. At the time an entity chooses its host, it "flies" as it were into an orifice. The host may get a glimpse of the entity entering into, say the mouth, which is felt like a swelling sensation after it lodges itself at the base of the brain or spinal column. Shortly there after, the host is driven into increased anger, negative behavior, or substance abuse.

As soon as the black entities have anchored themselves onto the spinal column or at the base of the brain, they project telepathic patterns of pure evil that activates and add intensity to the already present negative emotions the host has accumulated. And, with each amplified explosive action, the memory of the incident is increased in intensity feeding upon its self, over and over.

Entity Removal

As a matter of physics - the entity repelling mechanism is a matter of crating opposite polarity fields of energy

more at the link

synergy777

26-07-2007, 03:36 PM

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/sacredart.html

UFO's In Sacred Works Of Art by Michael Naisbitt

Posted: 14:15 July 18, 2007

The, “Annunciation with St. Emidius” (1486)
Artist: Carlo Crivelli (c. 1435 1495 - Italian Renaissance Painter)
Currently displayed at, National Gallery, London.

Now, nearly everyone who has a basic knowledge of UFO's and UFO related phenomenon has some knowledge of the purported UFO's which are visible in works of art from throughout the ages.

This was originally to be dedicated to that exact subject; however upon researching the subject thoroughly it quickly became apparent that these UFO's are not all that they initially appear to be.

This is especially true with the majority of paintings which depict religious events or have religious connotations. There are still some artworks where the apparent UFO connection is impossible to deny, but the majority of the ones that I had previously believed were UFO's can (and hopefully will) be explained!!

The Annunciation (pictured) is one of the artworks that was a major disappointment, at least as far as I was concerned. As you can see from the picture, it would appear to depict a UFO shooting some sort of beam of light onto the crown which adorns the head of the Virgin Mary.

Now there are a couple of things that are worth noting with this painting, not least of all that it appears to show a classic UFO shape.

The other point is that the majority of images on the internet are crops of the same image. The reason this is important is that it's not possible to clearly discern what the UFO is intended to portray. In fact if you zoom in on most of the current copies of the same image, it certainly does appear to be a UFO.

It's important to understand that the Annunciation refers to the Immaculate Conception, i.e. the virgin birth when the Holy Spirit, “Touched,” the Virgin Mary.

LUKE: Chapter 1, verses 26-38:

26 In her sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent forth from God to a city of Gal´i·lee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin promised in marriage to a man named Joseph of David's house; and the name of the virgin was Mary. 28 And when he went in before her he said: “Good day, highly favored one, God is with you.”

29 But she was deeply disturbed at the saying and began to reason out what sort of greeting this might be. 30 So the angel said to her: “Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; 31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus.

32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.”

34 But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” 35 In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God's Son.

The, “Annunciation with St. Emidius” (1486)
36 And, look! Elizabeth your relative has also herself conceived a son, in her old age, and this is the sixth month for her, the so-called barren woman; 37 because with God no declaration will be an impossibility.” 38 Then Mary said: “ May it become of me according to your word.” At that the angel departed from her.

Is it starting to fall into place yet?

And here we can see that the symbolism of using a group of angels joined together in a ring/circle isn't exclusive to the crucifixion painting. Below you can see the fresco of the Assumption of the Virgin in the dome of the cathedral of Parma.

The Crucifixions Of Christ

Crucifixion: Currently displayed at Svetitskhoveli Cathedral, Mtskheta , Georgia

Before I start on this one, I feel it's important to stress a few facts mainly regarding symbolism in medieval works of art. In fact, it's by no means exclusive to medieval art (or to the Byzantine era) the symbolism is quite easily explained and can really be pinned down to the theme of the crucifixion itself. (The Byzantine Empire is the term conventionally used since the 19th century to describe the Greek-speaking Roman Empire of the Middle Ages.)

The interpretation of the symbolism is widely recognized as being representative of how through the death of Christ, man was ultimately saved. A negative and positive, dark and light, which is nearly always represented by the two universally recognised symbols of the sun and the moon.

The, "Smoking gun " which has sent many people up the wrong path is the ways in which the sun and the moon are represented. And to add yet further confusion, this symbolism is not exclusive to the Byzantine era and can be found in the works of other painters, like Crivelli for instance, who we have already briefly discussed with regards to the Annunciation.

The Byzantine style of painting is certainly the style where the objects are most prevalent on either side of the cross and they can be seen in a great many works from this time.

more at the link

synergy777

26-07-2007, 03:56 PM

http://www.ufodigest.com/

The Bible and the Paranormal A New Perspective by Patrick Cooke
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/newperspective.html

The Bible and the Paranormal A New Perspective - Part II by Patrick Cooke
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/newperspective7.html

The Bible and the Paranormal A New Perspective - Part III by Patrick Cooke
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/newperspective15.html

synergy777

04-09-2007, 05:04 PM

bump

synergy777

26-03-2008, 09:28 PM

http://www.bibleufo.com/