How can we awaken those without empathy?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I believe that the only real evil is ignorance itself. I have explained more on how I feel about this subject in my rambles titled 'The New Eden' in the 'Awakening' forum here.

What I'm feeling right now is desperate to find the ways to bring about real change in the world and stop the 'darkest' of 'evils' such as child abuse and torture.

David wrote that knowing the only truth Infinite Love, ceases a person's need to have purpose, etc.....but I think it is all a matter of interpretation, and it depends on what you mean by 'purpose'. It doesn't simply mean that we don't need to have a purpose. Because he also said somewhere (where he was discussing his book, online) that love does not abandon.

Therefore, I think the key is that we shouldn't try to fight evil; evil is just an illusion.

The only way is to awaken empathy in those that lack it. Like the albino boy with supernatural powers did in the film 'Powder'.....and also at the end of the first movie of 'The Crow' where he says "I have something to give. I don't want it any more"......then he transfers all the pain and misery he had experienced and put it into the 'evil' guy's head who had caused it all.

I think that we also need to remember, in our mission to bring more awareness into the world, is to use our own intuition and discretion when it comes to how we go about it. The knowledge that Satanic child abuse could be happening would cause some people to have a nervous breakdown. People need the ability to be resourceful when it comes to finding ways to cope when it comes to this sort of knowledge, and the will to carry on living! To tell people not only this, but the faith in their particular religion which had been a source of security all their lives could have been founded by alien beings motivated by cruel intentions would blow their mind.

Please let me know your thoughts....if you have something mature to say, lol.

LOVE

[Anders Lindman]

A clever trick is to promote empathy as increased personal power. Even the most reptile brain psychopath can understand personal power. By using empathy, personal power will increase. And it doesn't matter in the long run if the empathy at first is only a faked empathy, because only genuine empathy has any lasting value and power.

[john white]

Displaying empathy helps, especially when communicating difficult information

Emapthise with people that its hard to accept the government lies to you: "I found it really hard to take on to, but I had to dig further becuase i had to know", for example... helps people make a link

For some, empathy has been essentially retarded by a severe imbalance favouring the left brain... we do have to accept that we can't "win" them all and its best to be calm and compassionate rather than frustrated:

As I constantly remind myself!

[john white]

David wrote that knowing the only truth Infinite Love, ceases a person's need to have purpose, etc.....but I think it is all a matter of interpretation, and it depends on what you mean by 'purpose'. It doesn't simply mean that we don't need to have a purpose. Because he also said somewhere (where he was discussing his book, online) that love does not abandon.

Therefore, I think the key is that we shouldn't try to fight evil; evil is just an illusion.


Spot on, btw

[synergy777]

the soon coming events will create the need for people to awake from the slumber they are in, its not nice, but it wasn't nice for us. it never will be nice, your ego hates it. i am glad i got it out the way, as whatever the future brings i will meet it with calm, clarity, confidence and compassion. i find rudyards kiplings, if, a useful mantra.

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm

IF.....

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

and

http://marianne.com/book/index.htm

“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

----from A Return to Love, by Marianne Williamson.

[peter19]

people without empathy will feel empathy when they are on there knees. if you havent suffered then what have you got to give empathy too?.

[synergy777]

to live is to know.

[freespark]

the soon coming events will create the need for people to awake from the slumber they are in, its not nice, but it wasn't nice for us. it never will be nice, your ego hates it. i am glad i got it out the way, as whatever the future brings i will meet it with calm, clarity, confidence and compassion. i find rudyards kiplings, if, a useful mantra.

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm

IF.....

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!



Great stuff there mate...bloody tall order this 'man' shit but hey, we can only try!! ;)

[synergy777]

its not tall if you know thats what you would like to be, its apsirational/inspirational. to be like that is to be the best.

[neutron flux]

The only way is to awaken empathy in those that lack it.

The trouble is, if a psychopath has no empathy or conscience, how can you awaken something that isn't there?

A psychopath will fake empathy and emotions as a way to manipulate you. Just look at the leaders who condemn the situation in say Dafur or Sudan or whatever - they don't really care but its just airs and graces to hide their true nature. They wear a mask of sanity.

Blair or Bush for example, have seen the consequences of their actions in Iraq and any normal person would be horrified or wouldn't do it in the first place - yet they say, "It was the right thing to do" and carry on with what they're doing. No feeling. No conscience.

[Anders Lindman]

Genuine empathy must be a win-win situation. If I pretend to have empathy, then I will feel inside that effort is needed to uphold the faked empathy and thus in reality I will lose instead of gaining energy and power. I may use faked empathy to win some short-term goal, but overall I will lose more than I gain, especially in today's complex society.

And if I feel empathy for someone and at the same time feel burdened by it, then I lose energy and power. That kind of empathy is colored by guilt or fear and is not really a win-win situation. Genuine empathy means that BOTH I and other people gain from it and that my personal power increases, not decreases. If the empathy is just a boring drain on me, then something is not healthy in that empathy.

[dragonfly]

very wise words indeed. :)

i can go with all of this. yes, certain truths are hard to cope with. like the goverment lying and basically not giving a shite about it. like a world elite sitting behind the scenes and trying to pull all the strings, and letting the people sit in ignorance and sing "glory, glory, glory" to the this and the that, while their own doom is being sealed. yes, i do believe a world elite is found, and has run throughout world history, from kingdom to kingdom and through the bloodlines of monarchs, presidencys and the aristocracy, prominent families, and bascially throughout the top levels that have always kept the public away from the source of knowlegde. religion has played a major role here (like in those days, where the Bible was kept from everyday people, and only the learned could read and quote from here...) i do find these truths, among others hard to balance out, in an everyday life, yet i would rather be AWAKE and know where the fire is burning, than fast asleep and get caught in it. As David Icke stated many years ago, the world is not run by the power of Love, but by the fear which is in the media, in magazines and in the minds of those who still believe, that someone out there is going to help us and save us, when in reality we the people have the key and the power to make a change. No, my goverment is not going to step out and help. No, my church isn´t either. No, the system isn´t going to bring this world back on track, cause it is this very system which has brought millions to poverty, and made a mess of this world, in so many grusom ways.

yes, this and so much more is hard to cope with. the hope being, that so many people, are asking questions, waking up and speaking up for themselves, and i do sense a greater CHANGE coming. one for the better. :)

[kooo]

The trouble is, if a psychopath has no empathy or conscience, how can you awaken something that isn't there?

A psychopath will fake empathy and emotions as a way to manipulate you. Just look at the leaders who condemn the situation in say Dafur or Sudan or whatever - they don't really care but its just airs and graces to hide their true nature. They wear a mask of sanity.


Exactly. If ever I find myself in the unfortunate company of a psychopath I get as far away from them as possible, who cares about opening their eyes to empathy, I don't. I'm more interested in protecting myself from their bad deeds. No point in flogging a dead horse, unless you're stupid of course.

[Anders Lindman]

Empathy will increase a person's power, but I think it costs a bit to cultivate empathy. When we feel low on energy and in a negative emotional state, it's probably impossible to cultivate empathy. Only when we have an abundance of personal resources can we afford to cultivate empathy, and that in turn will make our personal power to grow.