Does swine flu really exist?

[felakuti]

I've just heard that just 15 deaths in Mexico were due to ''confirmed'' cases of Swine Flu. Add that to the US kid who died (supposedly) of swine flu, and that brings the number to..... 16?

This is a far cry from the ''159 deaths in the last 2 days'' reports we were getting from the MSM 48 hrs ago!

Meanwhile, sales of Rumsfeld's Tamiflu have exploded across the world - over 16 'confirmed' deaths?

One more thing, I understand there are no clear symptoms to differentiate 'swine flu' from the 'regular flu', so there does appear to be a lot of disinfo hitting our airwaves, regarding this whole thing.

Some 'swine flu' patients in the UK were asked by their doctors to return home and stay indoors till they recover, while other 'swine flu' patients were asked to 'carry on with their lives as normal, go out, mingle, enjoy etc', indicating confusion among doctors regarding just what constitutes 'swine flu'.

Are patients suffering (and dying) from pneumonia or TB being misdiagnosed as 'swine flu' victims to forward an agenda?

And watching BBC News last night, it seemed as though the newsreaders were encouraging their correspondents to report heightened fear and panic among the public.

All very strange.

[bulletproofheart]

To be honest I have thought the very same thing.All sounds a bit too convienient to me.The BBC love a good epidemic to get people petrified.They did the same with Mad cow.

[lordzoma]

The virus strain out there absolutely exists. It is not swine flu. It is a mixture of swine, bird, and human influenza.

[flip side]

I was worried, not so much now after seeing the numbers and what seems to be the mild nature of the flu. I feel this is a warm up, see how the people react, a test on government/media response, spread the fear enough for people to accept the vaccine further down the line. I feel that the big one is yet to come maybe after the summer when flu season will take out more people.

Everything I see in the media feels like massive propoganda, it almost has a feel to it like it's a drill. Nothing really sits right about it to me. Why are they getting so concerned about something that evidently has the same effects as normal flu? Why are they getting so concerned about something that is proving to not be that contagious? Who gains from this - Rumsfeld and the big pharma corps. The governments can test out their state of emergency powers and bring in more draconian laws. People who are in fear get manipulated. In my eyes, they're dipping their toe in the water. So an answer to your question felakuti, yes it's real. But MASSIVELY overhyped and something to not fear like they want us to.

[bobhodge]

this pig flu was meant to be an absolutely catastrophic false flag operation that involved many, many deaths. however, they fucked it up bigtime. the strain they released was nowhere near as deadly as they wanted it to be. now they have to regroup and try again.

[angel wings]

The OP's concerns are right, the whole thing is OTT over a small percentage of deaths condering the media hype. I'm curious to see how this all plays out.

[lozz]

Well how else is Rumsfeld to off load his stock pile of Tamiflu?

PRS in all its glory

[dude111]

This is a far cry from the ''159 deaths in the last 2 days'' reports we were getting from the MSM 48 hrs ago!I dont believe 1 word from the MSM (@ least in the USA) -- Its all garbage,they only tell you what they want to to "think" and its the PUPPETS in this country that allow it to continue!!

[freedom1st]

Yes, this is very weird. It's like they're reporting the black plague but no one is ill. Don't know what they're playing at.

[vividchild]

It seems to have gotten more out of hand than previous potential pandemics but the coverage doesn't match the deaths and amount of people affected. It is confusing... on one hand I want to take some sort of action, where as on the other it doesn't seem necessary.

I did think it would have started to die down a bit by now if nothing was to come of it.

[lordzoma]

The great irony here

Is that the swine flu has spread much farther, infected more people, and is far worse, than the media is portraying it to be.

In fact, to the irony of everyone who is screaming at the media's whoring of the situation

The reality is far far far worse than what they are saying.

The general sentiment, is that as the number of people who are sick increases, and as the number dead increases, ones level of fear should increase.

Since they are holding the numbers down by a huge factor of 10 or more, when they begin to play it up after the weekend into next week, the numbers will seem much worse and they could play it up to having gotten worse quickly, rather than the expected increase.

This may not happen, but I think that WHO alert level 6 will be initiated on saturday or sunday, and that over next week swine flu news will be ten times what it was this week.

[motleyhoo]

this pig flu was meant to be an absolutely catastrophic false flag operation that involved many, many deaths. however, they fucked it up bigtime. the strain they released was nowhere near as deadly as they wanted it to be. now they have to regroup and try again.

Maybe it was meant to be harmless so that all the media hype would be the classic cry wolf scenario. Then when they release the big one next winter we'll all go "yeah, right", and it will catch us off guard, spreading like wildfire and killing millions before we realize what happened.

[orderoutofchaos]

It appears the doomsday scenario the ptb keep feeding us is complete bollocks. This flu appears to be harmful to a miniscule amount of people. The number of cases are not shooting up as they said they would. They either have it very wrong or they are peddling this pandemic myth for some reason.

[deem]

Whatever the 'real' situation is, you'l be able to count on the media to milk it for all its worth to sell the rags they print. Stop watching the news and buying thier newspapers, you'l sleep a lot better.

[steevo]

If no-one watched the the CURRENT MAINSTREAM news or read CURRENT MAINSTREAM newspapers, then maybe there would be no credit crunch or swine flu.
Let's face it, we dont know for sure EITHER WAY whether swine flu actually exists. We just need to keep an open mind. It is absolutely essential that we dont let irrational fears lead into making irrational decisions.

[felakuti]

If no-one watched the the CURRENT MAINSTREAM news or read CURRENT MAINSTREAM newspapers, then maybe there would be no credit crunch or swine flu.
Let's face it, we dont know for sure EITHER WAY whether swine flu actually exists. We just need to keep an open mind. It is absolutely essential that we dont let irrational fears lead into making irrational decisions.


Exactly. Seeing there's hardly anyone at all we can trust to tell us the truth who isn't compromised/beholden to the system in some way, it could well be that it's entirely fabricated from start to finish.

It could also be that there is no available means to ''manufacture'' a flu virus powerful enough to kill millions of people, despite their best efforts. If it IS possible, they certainly seem to be struggling at the moment.

Really...if their intent is to eliminate the majority of people in a population cull, they seem to be struggling badly at this objective, any way you look at it.

[motleyhoo]

Well, you cannot even trust what you read on the internet. We don't have any middle of the road anecdotes or stories. It's either the whole thing is a media stunt to promote vaccinations and tamiflu and no one is really that sick, or it is much worse than is being reported and people are dropping like flies.

[tootrue]

I think they did engineer this flu, but people still do have immune systems
They have blown it out of proportion, to push for mass vaccination

[delamo1999]

I think they did engineer this flu, but people still do have immune systems
They have blown it out of proportion, to push for mass vaccination


The governments created this epidemic to install massive fear into the masses so that they will agree to get a vaccination and/or martial law. This is one of their last desparate attempts for global domination. It is all FEAR based. The more we reject it the faster it will go away.

Of course the entire thing is blown out of proportion. Remember SARS.

I read in the news that this "so called" flue was less intense than they had originally stated.

[zombgief]

Swine Flu = Standard Fear Propaganda

Nothing to truly worry about. The fact that the only deaths are originating from Mexico (a 3rd world country notorious for its bad overall health care, sanitation, etc, I mean, people still die from cholera in Mexico every year) should be a big red flag.

People living in a non 3rd world environment probably have absolutely nothing to worry about. If we start seeing people that are not from Mexico start to die by the masses, then we can be alarmed.

Either way, do not take tamiful, do not get a flu shot. If you come down with flu like symptoms, go to your doctors as a precaution but treat it the gold old fashioned way: Lots of rest, lots of fluids, lots of vitamin C.

[dude111]

Well, you cannot even trust what you read on the internet.No but on a site like this we all are thinking the same way and we know we can trust each other....

Im sure MOST IN THIS THREAD listen to Alex jones and have been listening for months and know what he is saying IS TRUE!! (And wont let anyone convince you otherwise)

IS THIS INFORMATION SCARY???

Yes it is!! (But its REALITY)

WILL DENYING IT,LAUGHING SAYING "YOU ARE ALL CRAZY" STOP WHATS HAPPENING??

No............

If no-one watched the the CURRENT MAINSTREAM news or read CURRENT MAINSTREAM newspapers, then maybe there would be no credit crunch or swine flu.Well there are alot of idiots in the USA who think "mainstream" is holy god........ Its totally sickening!!


Trying to pull someone FROM MAINSTREAM CONTROL IS UNBELIEVABLY HARD!!! (But its something we all must do)

[sukyspook]

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[monkfish]

Dont buy this for a second as i tend to beleive the mirror opposite of what anyone on the tv says. I agree with the earlier poster about it being more of a test to see how we react.