Lucifer's Rebellion Gains Momentum [Archive] - Page 2

sukyspook

20-05-2009, 07:14 PM

Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Flaming Dumpsters and your Dying Breath.

I’m definitely on the wrong planet. Or it could be as Michael Rivero says, “I flat out do not believe those numbers.” I think that means what it would mean to me if I had said it and that is that it’s either a manufactured lie or the questions were worded in such a way that there was no alternative answers outside of a narrow spectrum… but you know how these people work.

Let’s suppose that there’s some truth to it. Look at the comments that follow the article and consider also that the article is closed to comments now. Look at the glaring similarity in style that weaves in and out of the comments. This is a put-up job. How I know it’s a put-up job is that there’s more than one piece of evidence which suggests it and, since I take it for granted that these people lie at all times, I guess we can forget about everything I just said because we don’t even need any of it.

What I want to talk about is the mentality exhibited in the comments that follows the article. The denial and stupidity leaves me breathless. I stand in awe of the understanding that these people can actually feed and clothe themselves. I am living on the planet Moron, the third planet from an embarrassed sun know as Sol. The planet of the mind, Mercury, spins around in the closest orbit and appears to be retrograde all the time. Ironically, we are sandwiched between the planets of Love and War. Don’t tell me that the universe isn’t a conscious design. I want to point out that intelligence is the author of existence, not the result. Then again, how to explain things like this or this? Hopefully you will forgive me for not linking a London tabloid or some other piece of toilet paper with which the devil wiped his ass. I know it’s out there but I just couldn’t bring myself to go. Seeing what I’ve given you was bad enough.

What I want to talk about is why things like reality shows are such a big deal now and why so much attention is paid to the lives of celebrities; why instant celebrities with no talent whatsoever are manufactured in vats somewhere in the California desert, why the focus is so often upon the most banal things, why most of the food is like a chemistry experiment that went wrong, why this and why that. What’s the real reason that various perspectives on human life are all presented in the way that they are while the remarkable beauty of our true being is buried beneath the flaming dumpster of this pornographic excuse for a culture?

It’s simple. It’s all about making us look a certain way to each other and presenting the superficial and obscene as the true picture of humanity and… the reason for this is that the people they tell us we are will permit just about anything; understand nothing, be completely consumed with our appearances and command of trivia to the exclusion… to the total exclusion of everything which makes life worth living. The sort of people they make us wish we could be like can be compared to the cows on some South American pampas at night …that are being fed upon by vampire bats. Vampire bats have the ability to bite you without you knowing it is happening; so much the better if you are someone who is incapable of knowing what is happening due to your dependence on the bats telling you… what’s happening.

I can’t define pornography but I know it when I see it. Some judge said something like that. I would agree. This is pornography disguised as culture. It’s a full color fold out of a naked wolverine on a bed of burning garbage in Pethouse magazine. It’s in your face and standing behind you with a hardon at the same time. It’s everywhere.

Because of this phenomenon that expresses itself in most movies; most television shows, most radio programs, most music, most books, most magazines and most newspapers we are led to believe that we have the intellectual depth of a chicken and the life value of a cartoon character. It makes it a lot easier to kill people when the general population is morphed into what they have become as a result of the models constructed for them and fed to them from the time they learned to walk.

It’s easy to see the connections… money is power and it has no conscience. Corporations are about making money and nothing else except… the power to make more money. Because corporations have a great deal of money they can buy politicians. Politicians are natural born whores. When corporations buy the politicians from both sides of the aisle they control the political process and the government and the inevitable result of that is fascism. Fascism is most easily instituted upon a public made indolent from exposure to a watered down and compromised educational system that operates in tandem with an agenda driven media which, perforce, becomes the real education system. As John Fogerty said, “I know it’s true cause I saw it on TV.”

The houseman for the specific form of fascism of the moment is Political Correctness. The intention of political correctness is to destroy the family unit and pervert the natural affection and loyalties that exist within that dynamic. Therefore we are treated to the many permutations of human life as demonstrated through sitcoms and the hi-profile cartoon expressions of the same where absurdity can be expanded in ways that programs using human actors cannot.

The sudden appearance of the Spice Girls in the UK and the Mouseketeer abortions of Brittany Spears, In-sync, Aguilera and company were designed to materialize in consort with George W. Bush and this granted control of the life soundtrack to those intending to present particular values and lifestyles that reflected trivia and stupidity as virtues. Following along came My Space, Facebook and assorted web spaces that interacted with the proliferation of cellphones and text messaging that has resulted in the ‘out of nowhere’ Twitter motif that defined text messaging as the approved format for ‘life as soundbyte’. For this we were given a snake oil salesman with a teleprompter who had near zero government experience.

I’m throwing a lot of things out here without the depth that such a subject requires even though the subject has no depth at all. I expect the reader to extrapolate in their own minds and see the specific weave of the matrix. Mcluhan said many things similar as have others.

Life has a particular integrity to it that tends toward an evolution of consciousness. When that integrity is compromised, then a future crisis point is created to resolve the departure. Civilization can be considered as the human reaction to discomfort. Ergo… so much of the technology is devoted to comfort and convenience. War in foreign places, rich with the resources to maintain this comfort in selected zones, follows as well.

Once a certain balance has left any culture it is automatically headed for readjustment. There is no court of appeal for this. You are dealing with forces that cannot be persuaded otherwise. When things have to come where they presently are you can most certainly assume that it will not be long before indications of adjustment come into view. We have been seeing these indications for awhile now. Well… some of us have been seeing these indications and others are seeing what they are being shown which brings us back to all of the things discussed in this piece.

I don’t know how many ways I can say the same thing. It’s one thing to hear this from any one of us who are speaking about it. It is something else entirely when Nature herself starts telling you. It is something else again when what seemed far away begins to show up on your doorstep. Still… for all of the signposts which have appeared in the last ten years there is still a very large portion of the population that doesn’t have a clue and which at the same time has an opinion on everything.

http://zippittydodah.blogspot.com/2009/05/bloody-nickels-and-flaming-dumpsters.html

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Nuff said - brilliantly.

tyler

21-05-2009, 12:07 PM

Marvelous! Where do you find this stuff?

Apologies for not putting up enough of my own research. I've been too busy reading your stuff, Suky and going down all the little side roads!

sukyspook

22-05-2009, 09:58 AM

For me, the evidence keeps on mounting:

Jay Weidner w Jeff Rense: Rise of the Archons:

From 8th April 09, was re-tx'd on 17th May:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Apr2009/8fq25w/rense_040809_hr2.mp3

Hr 3, 2nd hour of Jay Weidner with Jeff Rense:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Apr2009/8fq25w/rense_040809_hr3.mp3

I hope the above are in the correct order - it's a bit confusing from the archives. Jay signed off with Jeff then came straight back as replacement for Jim Marrs who didn't call in - you'll hear what happened if you listen - AND PLEASE DO LISTEN - as Jay says it 'like it is' imo.
I think both i/v's were first tx'd in April - how did I miss them? It wasn't until I was reading some recent articles that I realised 'Archons' are just what I'm looking for in connection to 'ancient 'gods'; demons; other-dimensional entities and yes, probably 'reppies' lol!

....and then there's Tim Rifat! When Tim has finished reading his letter requesting political assylum in Russia, he gets on to some even more interesting tidbits - listen for Jay mention Tim!

May 18 09 Jeff Rense w Tim Rifat

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/May2009/j62vr1/rense_051809_hr1.mp3

DBS w M Rafeeq May 10 09 update on the global financial situation - Darryl exposes the 'Z's' and Muhammad is a British Muslim financial analyst/expert. I find Darryl to be fair-minded and honest - his research archive and info is second to none but he's often given, unfairly imo, a 'bad press'. It's not about the MAN - it's about the INFO:

p1
http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.Smith-Rafeeq.pt1.10-05-2009.mp3

p2
http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.Smith-Rafeeq.pt2.10-05-2009.mp3

Things are a bit hectic on planet spook at the moment but I'll get back this weekend with some 'occult' dot-connecting in the search for Lucifer and his/her place in the ongoing manipulation of humanity.

Love and PEACE!
Suke

noewhan

22-05-2009, 04:06 PM

The Harry Potter new movie is called 'The Half Blood Prince'

runciter

22-05-2009, 05:51 PM

The Harry Potter new movie is called 'The Half Blood Prince'

william rothschild?

tyler

23-05-2009, 02:29 AM

Tim is such a looney but by golly he comes out with some interesting stuff!

lizzy

23-05-2009, 03:22 AM

hi suks....will catch up on the audios ...thread is progressing nicely....

hi kidsarocker.....yup, one must be careful not to move from one relgious sheep pen into another non -religious one, but you do believe in Allah?
.... and the culling is speeding up.... we are sentient humans ,...although they have done a prety good job turning the most of the western masses into selfish mush brains...I believe in my own higher power not deity.

sukyspook

24-05-2009, 09:33 AM

The grossly underestimated (imo) Freeman is also on a similar trail - I highly recommend the first 3 parts as so far they're all I've had chance to listen to:

Interesting how Freeman uses the title: Obama Lucifer....

The Obama Chronicles:

Inauguration:

http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/01_Inauguration.mp3

Obama Lucifer:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/02_Lucifer_Obama.mp3

ObamaNation 1 (this original TX'd on Red Ice) - excellent mp3:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/03_Obama_Nation_pt1.mp3

ObamaNation 2:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/04_Obama_Nation_pt2.mp3

Obama Apophis:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/05_Obama_Apophis.mp3

Obama Space Wars:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/06_Obama_Space_Wars.mp3

The American Awakening
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/07_American_Awakening.mp3

Obama, Akhenaton and The Bible:
http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/freemanradio/Bible_Revealed.mp3

http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/

tyler

25-05-2009, 12:30 AM

Ah, someone else who appreciates Freeman! Check out his My Space site.

esse

25-05-2009, 01:50 PM

Intelligent rants - so refreshing :) thanks for the links, I love freeman 2

sukyspook

26-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Here's a very topical 3 x part mp3 from Darryl Bradford Smith with James Dickie and M Rafeeq - (parts 1 and 2) with topics such as the 'Protocols' which, if you've ever read them document events: historical, current and obviously, future:

May 19 09 I am the Witness

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Cii/Cii.smith-rafeeq-dickie-lake.p1.19-05-2009.mp3

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Cii/cii.smith-rafeeq-dickie-lake.p2-1.mp3

Part 3 is with Jennifer Lake discussing 'Swine flu'; vaccines in general and chemical/drug corporations re-inventing themselves:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Cii/cii.smith-rafeeq-dickie-lake.p3-1.mp3

Ever thought of Florence Nightingale: the "Lady with the Lamp"?? (think 'knight'; 'night' and 'owl'.....things done in the dark...):

Florry even has an Aladdin type lamp here - a la 'genie/jinn':

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Florence_Nightingale_monument_London_closeup_607.j pg/180px-Florence_Nightingale_monument_London_closeup_607.j pg

Then there's this image which gobsmacked me:

http://www.derby.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/6E0F1767-D6FB-4C89-A50B-6236E7928846/0/florence7.jpg

Note: Fiat Lux - literally translated as 'let light be made' but also as 'let there be light'....
Note the owl at her feet - the symbol of Cybele/Hecate in witchcraft...

http://www.derby.gov.uk/Environment/PublicArt/MaintenanceofPublicArt-CleaningFlorence.htm

....and then there's:

Revelation 12:1
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=woman+clothed+with+the+sun&qs_version=9

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Cities/New/YorkCity//CNYVolume04/CNYV04P04_10.jpg

This is a great page of images and info on what I call the STATUTE OF LIBERTY (as opposed to 'statue' - Liberty is NOT Freedom:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LM/LM002-STATUEOFLIBERTY.htm

'Lady Liberty', or is it the hermaphrodite Lucifer, is holding the Statute that holds humanity in bondage and servitude - until we wake up and just walk away...

tyler

27-05-2009, 06:26 PM

Keep it coming, baby! I'm devouring it all with relish!

Have you read wgat Freeman has to say about the Goddess Columbia etc?

sukyspook

28-05-2009, 01:09 PM

Keep it coming, baby! I'm devouring it all with relish!

Have you read wgat Freeman has to say about the Goddess Columbia etc?

Oooooooh yes Tyler - Freeman knows Columbia alright!!! The extended version of the Columbia video; The Sorceror's of Atlantis; the Gaylon Ross i/v and many, MANY more at Freeman's archive site here:

http://freemanarchives.com/

I'm not sure about 'Freeman in Mayaland' - I thought he'd 'lost it' but it's all part of the journey and it's worth listening/watching in spite of what I think!

Here's the new Rense mp3 with Tim Rifat from the 26th and once you get over Tim's UK Fascist State rant for the first 9 minutes, he gets into the Satanists 'running' the UK - he manages to control himself over the breaks but doesn't 'hold back' tonight!!:

May 26 09 Rense w Tim Rifat: Geopolitical Analysis:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/May2009/j62vr1/rense_052609_hr1.mp3

I was listening to Alex Jones last Friday and the wonderful Bob Chapman of www.theinternationalforecaster.com named names within the UK gov who - and there is stuff out there if you want to find it - are allegedly 'pot bellied pedophiles'! Anyone who has heard of a certain 'operation' knows that there's been a 'D' notice on it all for years...(now watch this thread disappear!)

I couldn't find the piece with Bob but here's Alex ranting about the 'pot bellied pedophiles' lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5scRw6mcs&feature=player

I love to have loooong telephone discussions with an elderley uncle (77) who's a Jehovah's Witness - we rarely meet up even though we're less than 100 miles apart.

The JW's have been after me for years - to join them that is - and they are still relentless, knocking regularly on my door even up to this week. I once invited them round and they had to excuse themselves after 3.5 hours!!! That's my only claim to fame - that I can even out-talk them!!

A couple of days ago I was having a marathon telethon with Uncle Bob who knows that I have been researching everything in earnest since 2002 and he knows about my getting involved in politics in 2003/4/5 which I'm now well out of. Also, having known me all my life, he knows that I've always had a different 'take' on life. He knows, along with the local JW's that I will NEVER, EVER join any religious 'movement' as I don't need an intermediary to 'know' God/The Creator/The Divine Force in the Universe (Jordan Maxwell)/Higher Self etc etc, call it what you will.
I 'know' that there is something that created and maintains all life and we should live in harmony with it.

Anyway, the upshot is that Uncle Bob reiterated that he believes I am "painting the deckchairs on the Titanic" with all of my research which has basically become my 'life's work'. Bob said that Satan is a spirit 'creature' and that we are unable to do anything about our current situation and that we have to wait for Jehovah (a name I would never use for the Most High...) who is the only one that can put an end to this Satanic 'hell' once and for all. We should wait for him to come and therefore anything else ie my research/truthtelling etc is futile......

I believe that this 'leave it to Jehovah' attitude is part of the 'Luciferian/Satanic' agenda in that Bob and I agree with 99% of what's wrong with the world and that it's fundamentally a spiritual 'battle' but we depart from there in that he/they won't get involved in the political process (fair enough in one respect) but imagine what a difference an extra 6.5+ million (at 2003) JW's worldwide could do if they did become 'active' truthtellers other than Biblical 'preachers' for want of a better word.

I tried to say that what the JW's do in going door to door is a similar thing to what I'm doing as much of the problems of the world can be found in Biblical scripture - but we can never agree on this. Bob always goes on to say that are 6+ million JW's wrong and I, right?? Absolutely not - but I choose to live as independently as possible and like a political party - I know for myself that I could never agree totally with the policies of that party and so won't get involved again, same goes for a 'religion' imo.
Uncle Bob's bottom line is that he wants me to be 'saved' and that can only happen if I become a JW...

I then went on to tell him about the 'person/strawman' and that we are ALL involved in the 'Babylonian system' if we use money, drive a car, pay taxes etc via our NI number raised from when our parents handed us over by registering us into that very system shortly after birth.

As usual we parted agreeing to disagree. Doing nothing politically/socially/spiritually is NOT an option for me and I believe that taking back control of our 'person' is also a necessary requirement to 'come out of her' ie Mystery Babylon.

I guess most know that Charles Taze RUSSELL (according to Fritz Springmeier the Russell's are one of the 13 Illuminati bloodlines), founder of Jehovah's Witness movement is buried with a pyramid close by:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russell_Pyramid.JPG

Whilst we're in Pittsburg at the ROSEMOUNT (!) cemetary - welcome to the airport!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Piteagle.jpg

does that 'eagle' look familiar?:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Osiris_5955.gif

(the demonic sigil for Osiris/Osorronophris)

ORIAS aka ORIAX
**also known as the EGYPTIAN GOD, OSIRIS
*SEE High Ranking Demons and Crown Princes of Hell

* Zodiac Position: 20-24 degrees of Capricorn
* January 11th-15th
* Tarot Card: 4 of Pentacles
* Planet: Mercury
* Metal: Mercury
* Candle color: White
* Plant: Sealwort
* Element: Earth
* Rank: Marqis
* Oriax is a Night Demon and rules 30 legions of spirits

Oriax causes one's enemies to bestow good will and can change one into any shape. He helps one to gain respect and positions of high esteem.
He teaches about the stars and planets.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONVII.html

Quite a few pages back I posted the sigil for the demon 'Purson' and what I believe to be a similar sigil that was on the penny here in the UK. I was surprised that no one commented......as I found this to be quite a revelation. However, even more of a revelation is that the person (lol) who created this particular website has 'Purson as Horus' too:

PURSON aka THE EGYPTIAN GOD HORUS, aka CURSON

* Zodiac Position: 5-9 degrees of Cancer
* June 27th-July 1st
* Tarot Card: 2 of Cups
* Planet: Moon
* Metal: Silver
* Plant: Orchid
* Candle color: Purple
* Element: Water
* Rank: King
* Purson/Horus is a Day Demon and rules 22 legions of spirits. He was partly of the Order of Virtues and partly of the Order of Thrones

Purson (pronounced "PERSON") discovers hidden things and treasures, discerns past, present and future. He can read and reveal the thoughts of others and provide good familiars.
He answers all questions.

He is very fair. He resembles Amon Ra, only he has softer features. He is attended by several other Demons. He is highly respected among the Demons and very high ranking. Very youthful looking. He can lit up my entire room with his energy when he appeared to me.
- High Priestess Maxine

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Purson_30797.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONVII.html

I have a theory that the 'material world' we see around us has been modelled upon the 'dimension' from where the 'gods' of Egypt/Greece/Rome/Celts etc emerged and who, it would appear to me, either 'were', or were interracting with demonic entities in order to make 'deals' to have control over humanity. Titles such as: president; commander in chief; marquis; lord; chancellor; duke etc etc are used to describe the 'leaders' of various legions of demons and hence are mirrored in the 'realm' we inhabit.

Being a 'slow week' (newswise) this week for me, I decided to go over the Rense archives to find some mp3's I might have missed. I'm glad I did and here's one gem among many - Jordan Maxwell talking about the scam of 'Maritime Admiralty Law' and the 'strawman' - mentioning Liberty v Freedom which I did a couple of days ago:

March 26 2001 - Jeff Rense with Jordan Maxwell:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/2001/vpw029/rense_032601_hr2.mp3

Finally, here's another of my favourite Freeman shows - a 9 x parter with Rex Church, Satanist who seems to be a lovely bloke until you get to hear about his 'Ragnarok Machine' and what he proposes to do with it in 2012!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5x0993GBMQ

I think I should get myself a website.

Love and PEACE!
Suke

strengthofknowledge

28-05-2009, 04:03 PM

I'm well aware that there are many on this forum who don't believe that the battle we are in is fundamentally a spiritual one. Most laugh at the name of God, more so at the thoughts of Satan/Lucifer.

However, after 8 years of ongoing research into well, just about everything, for me there is no denying the existence of absolute evil and the potential for goodness on this planet.

Henry Makow knows this too - that's two of us lol - no, there are millions who 'know' too.

http://www.mindovermatter.ru/RVScience/supernaturalspirit/rense_radio_show.html

Im with you 100% on this... Satan has taken over, and the bible warned us.... And its remarks about the Mark of the Beast are ever so precise.. have no fear though, for our creator will return for his creation...

strengthofknowledge

28-05-2009, 04:04 PM

Best series on this in video---- CONSPIRITUS on Youtube.... check it out... hes only at part 11 now i believe but its still very informative....

sukyspook

28-05-2009, 04:42 PM

Best series on this in video---- CONSPIRITUS on Youtube.... check it out... hes only at part 11 now i believe but its still very informative....

I concur Strengthofknowledge...Conspiritus is an excellent series which i've posted a link to earlier in the thread if my memory serves me correctly.

I remembered, then forgot to post a link to another fascinating video series - also excellent and yes, this 'reality' is the domain of the 'prince of the power of the air' - Shaytan/Satan and no matter what ridiculous trick 'they' pull next - it's too late for them to retain control as thankfully humanity is finally awakening like never before. We must keep up the pressure to demand truth and most important of all, we must really try to love each other and feel compassion for everyone - including 'them' as 'they' too have to choose to do the right thing - or pay heavily somewhere along the line:

A Trip into the Supernatural p1 of several! - once again, an 'insider' talking about interraction with demonic entities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCd0qNbinWI

strengthofknowledge

28-05-2009, 06:59 PM

I concur Strengthofknowledge...Conspiritus is an excellent series which i've posted a link to earlier in the thread if my memory serves me correctly.

I remembered, then forgot to post a link to another fascinating video series - also excellent and yes, this 'reality' is the domain of the 'prince of the power of the air' - Shaytan/Satan and no matter what ridiculous trick 'they' pull next - it's too late for them to retain control as thankfully humanity is finally awakening like never before. We must keep up the pressure to demand truth and most important of all, we must really try to love each other and feel compassion for everyone - including 'them' as 'they' too have to choose to do the right thing - or pay heavily somewhere along the line:

A Trip into the Supernatural p1 of several! - once again, an 'insider' talking about interraction with demonic entities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCd0qNbinWI

Indeed another great series..
and I agree with you totally on that comment, show love for all even those who dont show it back, for they need it the most..
I personally am i strong believer in the bible, so i believe its too late to stop the powers at hand...but God can always stop them, and will come back to stop them...
So until that time i stay educated and educate others while spreading Love and Peace throughout my thought process...

sukyspook

30-05-2009, 11:59 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NE-72ZXux-g/SV1HkxI8pHI/AAAAAAAAHgw/uyB_7_-cJcM/s400/GrecDriv.jpg

Matthias Chang, at Global Research, 26 December 2008, wrote:
The Shadow Money Lenders: The Real Significance of The Fed’s Zero-Interest-Rate Policy (ZIRP)

Among the points made (and this is a very rough paraphrase):

1. There are people we shall call the shadow money lenders, who make their money from lending money.

Wars, including the 'War on Terror', are launched to preserve the shadow money-lenders' political and military power.

The shadow money lenders are involved in financial manipulation.

They control the political leaders.

2. Central bankers can create money and this gives them power.

When there is large spending on armies and wars, lots of money is involved.

But there is always a danger that the system will collapse if people think that the dollars or pounds they hold have become worthless.

In the 1960s, the Vietnam War led to a fall in the value of the dollar.

3. In the early 1970s, Henry Kissinger got the Saudis and other Arab states to push up the price of oil.

The deal was that the oil had to be bought in dollars and the oil profits invested in the USA.

The dollar was saved for the time being.

4. In the 1980s, it was clear that US manufacturing had been neglected and that the Japanese and the Koreans were often more efficient at making things.

The shadow money lenders decided that industries could move to China and that the profits would be invested in bonds in the USA.

This propped up the dollar.

5. From the 1990s onwards, the shadow money lenders encouraged people to borrow vast sums of money and get deeper and deeper into debt.

Various fancy financial schemes were devised to make things look good.

It was like a giant pyramid scheme or ponzi scheme or 'fraud'.

Some bankers became very, very rich.

A lot of people owed too much money, considering their low incomes.

Imagine a family earning $400 a month and having to pay $500 a month in interest.

6. The bubble has now burst.

7. The interest now paid on US government bonds is almost zero.

So the Chinese, Japanese, Europeans and Arabs who have put vast sums of money into US government bonds are earning virtually no interest and they are seeing the possibility of a big fall in the dollar.

The low interest rate also encourages more borrowing and debt.

8. "The Shadow Money-Lenders and its military partner will impose martial law...

"Soon it will be the nationalization of the big corporations like GE, GM, Ford and Chrysler, all too big to be allowed to fail."

9. Henry Kissinger and others have talked of a New World Order.

10. "The shadow money lenders are in a desperate situation and they will start a world war to avoid the collapse of their system."

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/05/mckinney-chang-and-soros.html

and if you've read this far may I also recommend "Child Abuse Suspected" at the same site which I visit every day:

http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.com/

NO MORE DYING FOR RICH MEN LYING

sukyspook

31-05-2009, 10:04 AM

WARNING -THE FOLLOWING VIDEO CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES OF ANIMAL SUFFERING AND SLAUGHTER and great footage of David Icke and Credo Mutwa!:

Posted overnight, the long awaited next part: No 12 of 13 Masonic Secrets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAvSZN9jSE&feature=channel_page

Architects of Control 1/13 – includes Luciferians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGXVfTIF8vA

Architects of Control 2/13 – thuggee/assassins etc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npZ1GVRx5Lo&NR=1

Architects of Control 3/13 - They Live (we "live"!! lol):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKBVash7f-M&feature=related

Do watch the rest of the series - it's awesome.

National Health Service: NHS for short.

NHS is Hebrew for Serpent - (no vowels).

snip

"The serpent (nahash, NHS) plays a predominantly sexual role in Genesis. It is condemned sexually, as is well illustrated by a Talmudic tradition (Aboda Zara, 22 b): "When the serprent possessed Eve, he inoculated her with filth."[2] And Genesis is no less explicit in the resolution of Adam (3, 20) to call his wife Hawwah (Eve), playing on the word hayah, which expresses the idea of life and is similar to the Aramaic hivyah, "serpent." Much later, Clement of Alexandria would remark that, "if one thickens a little the pronunciation of the name of the first woman, one would evoke in Jewish ears the name of the female of the serpent species."[3]"**

Grant Morrison explains how to make a magic sigil:

(sorry about the subtitles but the usual vid appears to have disappeared):
Be warned - if you haven't seen Grant Morrison before, he's a little 'off the wall' to put it mildly - but what he has to say is highly pertinent (imo) to understand our predicament and how to solve it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqsg1kMQB8M

another highly pertinent snippet from Grant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvG3LsfEK9Y

I'm sure it was a mere coincidence (!) that this became the NHS logo

http://www.nhsidentity.nhs.uk/Media/Images/Inline/logo.gif

http://www.nhsidentity.nhs.uk/

If you didn't watch Grant's video - which is brilliant, this is briefly how you create a sigil:

Take the word to be a sigil: Nahash

remove the vowels: nhsh

remove repeated consonants: NHS

Simples!!

From around 2002 I began to really notice the serpent logo appearing on ambulances around the world - since around 2004/5 in the UK - it was during 'disasters' like Madrid/777 that the logo leapt out at me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Star_of_life.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Life

Revelation 12:9 (KJV)

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=12&verse=8&end_verse=10&version=9&context=context

**http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-Life/ResistanceToChristianity/Resistance-Chapter7-v1_0.htm

octopusrex

01-06-2009, 09:51 AM

So that it harm none...

runciter

01-06-2009, 10:05 AM

So that it harm none...

still here? speaking of not harming others while defending inhuman behaviours?

tyler

01-06-2009, 05:48 PM

sukyspook

01-06-2009, 07:16 PM

I found that guy to be a turn off. Sniffing from too much coke, drinking and doing dope every day. Giggling with no self esteem and swearing like a child trying to shock.
I listened for five minutes and he made no sense to me.

One dud out of all the great stuff you put up,Suky!!!!

I think you mean Grant Morrison Tyler??? I know what you mean. However, as always, it's not the man/woman - IT'S THE MESSAGE! What he has to say, if you can manage to sit through it, will explain a lot about how we're all manipulated - but you know that anyway!

I've had real probs uploading a post for the past couple of hours which has disappeared but thankfully I'd saved it offline just in case. It might need a bit of 'editing' after I post it to enliven some links, here it is for what it's worth:

Post for June 1st 2009:

A couple of months ago I Emailed Abdullah Hashem who, along with Noreagaa, Freedomtou and a few other people created the series:
The Antichrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter.

I was concerned that the series was gradually being removed from youtube and so suggested that the series be released on DVD asap and I, for one, would buy it.

Last week I received my pile of DVD's of the entire series which is available from here - it's very 'basic' but nonetheless it's 483 parts + some:

http://www.freewebstore.org/HashemsFilms/index.aspx?pageid=120700

I Emailed Hashem to say I'd received the package from Egypt within 48 hours of it being despatched.

I also told Hashem that I was really looking forward to the final 2 x parts of the series 13 Masonic Secrets which I've been eagerly awaiting for a couple of months like many others...

Overnight Saturday 30th May part 12 of 13 was posted. Part 13 was posted overnight last night, 31st May...

I eagerley watched both parts . I’m not saying I had anything to do with events from Abdullah but the timing IS kind of interesting…

However, I was left 'hanging' by p13 which is posted below and I've been trawling through so much stuff to try to sort the most important location featured in p13 all morning - (I'm lucky enough to be able to spend time researching 'the agenda' - it's more important that 'normal' life imo).

Before I watched the final part I had collected the book 'The Sirius Mystery' by Robert Temple from the library last Saturday. I've borrowed the same book several times over the past 5 years or so....

I've been aware of the Orion Mystery for several years and hence, the Sirius Mystery - as in the Masonic 'blazing star'...again, as "luck" (!!) would have it, Jim Fear, fellow forum member and all round 'good egg' (thanks Jim ;) ) knew I was looking to obtain The Orion Mystery and lo and behold he found it for 10p at a boot sale and very kindly posted it off to me... (this is how 'it' - the search for truth - 'works' in my experience ie things simply turn up as if 'placed'...)

I just went back to Muslim's United site to get the link for the DVD set and hallelujah, 13 part B was posted lololol!!! I haven't watched it yet but intend to do so NOW.

Anyway, I thought I'd share those little personal experiences with you as I believe it's all part of my/our journey to Truth and ultimately to.....well, that's another $64,000? isn't it!

So here's part 13A and 13 B of 13 Masonic Secrets and a few recent and highly pertinent mp3's which I highly recommend:

13A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXsh15jEx0&feature=channel_page

13B...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9nPEGN8vYg&feature=channel_page

Dr. Bill Deagle 05/29/2009 Report: -- HOUR ONE HOT NEWS SPECIAL -- DR FRED GRAVES J.D. -- JURISDICTIONARY -- US AND WORLD LEGAL CITIZENS MILITIA TOOL KIT -- HOUR ONE SPECIAL -- G20 HEIST OF ALL NATIONS -- JOAN VEON -- "WHEN CENTRAL BANKS RULE THE WORLD" DVD NEW DOCUMENTARY -- PLANNING THE STEPS TO WORLD GOVERNMENT SPECIAL REPORT -

http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_01_05_29.MP3

AWESOME - link with Dave Prince in England - transAtlantic truthers together at last!!
Dr. Bill Deagle 05/27/2009 Report:HOUR ONE SPECIAL - ANTHONY J. HILDER & GARY RICHARD ARNOLD - SONIA SOTOMAYOR - THE BANKSTERS GIRL

http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_01_05_27.MP3

VERY IMPORTANT OPENING GENTLE BUT HONEST 'RANT from Daryl followed by very wise words from David Pidcock
French Connection 05/26/2009 Report:With Daryl Bradford Smith....CII with guest David Pidcock ON WHAT THE BAD GUYS HAVE DONE TO YOU

http://www.twowitnesses.us/the_french_connection_05_26.MP3

Brian Gerrish new 2 hour mp3 from Henrik at Red Ice:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/05may/RIR-090526-bgerrish-pt1.mp3

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/05may/RIR-090526-bgerrish-pt2.mp3

This is the main Red Ice page - you'll see the Brian Gerrish r/v at the top - right click p2, and download. Any probs, please just say and I'll get the link later for you.

http://www.redicecreations.com

and almost finally, for now:

THIS IS 'FICTION' (or is it lol):

Orion Conspiracy p1
THE ORION CONSPIRACY
Jun 21, 2008
DIRECTOR’S STATEMENT : This fiction-documentary was directed and self-produced by Seb Janiak, without any funding or motion-picture production company financing. The character of the work is solely artistic and not for profit, without any commercial objective. FOREWORD : More than fifty years of disinformation and manipulation in the shadow of the media have divided and impoverished public opinion, so as to control it all the better.This film is neither a work of fiction, nor a documentary.Forget the words "esoteric" or "fantastic", here we're speaking about REALITY…Author: theorionconspiracyTags: OVNI UFO CONSPIRATION MOON LUNE PYRAMIDS B-SPIRIT LACONSPIRATIONDORION THEORIONCONSPIRACY MHD NASA PENTAGONE HAARP ROSWELL

http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-orion-conspiracy/18210243

and from the amazing series: The Antichrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter, p7 – “history”…..of the Bushes, CROWLEY and various presidents - a highly pertinent part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zqj6_DAUZw

Suke

ex sheep

01-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Who moved this thread, now I've got pages and pages to catch up :confused:

ex sheep

02-06-2009, 12:20 AM

octopusrex

02-06-2009, 01:59 AM

still here? speaking of not harming others while defending inhuman behaviours?

Devil's advocate, dog-person. If I don't do it, who will? You?

sukyspook

02-06-2009, 08:38 AM

Thanks again sukyspook + everyone else who is contributing here, I am really pissed at this thread being moved as I was really getting some good understanding of what's going on, I've been here 3hrs already and so much stuff to get through. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Hi Ex-sheep and welcome back lol!!

It was a bit of a shock when the thread simply vanished overnight - and without a 'forwarding address' which I found rather strange...

However, when I eventually found it and made some repairs to links I'd posted, (not sure if there are any other broken links - not re-read every page I'm sorry to say), it seems to have found a nice little niche here where we don't get bothered by 'you know who' types who only wish to divert the journey to the Truth of all things which is all that matters to me.

Take your time in catching up on OUR thread and I hope you find some of the stuff I've posted to be of value and interest.

IMO, only when we 'feel' compassion for each other and the Truth in our hearts can we begin to affect others around us and hopefully then the wider world.
Continuing unfolding events are awakening vast numbers of people daily - to chav and king alike - each has his own kind of 'eureka' moment!! I also believe there really IS some kind of Divine Intervention occuring too...I've had far too many coincidences happen to me for that not to be so.

I like to think of the phrase used by police "perverting the course of justice" in terms of humanity realising just what's been done to us as the Luciferian/Satanic influence has "perverted the course of humanity's awakening" for far too long.

There really IS light at the end of the tunnel - but it's not the 'false' light of Lucifer but very real, spiritual light which can only be recognised when it's experienced by a person who embraces his/her own Truth and compassion and wishes all of humanity to feel and experience the same - imho of course!

Love,
Suke:)

runciter

02-06-2009, 08:40 AM

Devil's advocate, dog-person. If I don't do it, who will? You?

you do it because you're defending your own interests, forbidden pleasures etc.

octopusrex

02-06-2009, 10:00 AM

you do it because you're defending your own interests, forbidden pleasures etc.

So?

But lets up pen the ante, shall we? What are YOUR forbidden pleasures? Dogs?

Tell you what. Most folks who talk about Pedos don't know shit about pedophilia nor have they ever met one. They are just "reacting" ... Like any other obscure taboo. Not much different from homosexuals a few decades ago. Or folks who liked to date outside their own race. And yet, in many countries, in many cultures, some 12 year olds are considered old maids if they have not married by `14.

My idea is the transformation of your minds. Of your reality.

What is yours?

runciter

02-06-2009, 10:08 AM

So?

But lets up pen the ante, shall we? What are YOUR forbidden pleasures? Dogs?

Tell you what. Most folks who talk about Pedos don't know shit about pedophilia nor have they ever met one. They are just "reacting" ... Like any other obscure taboo. Not much different from homosexuals a few decades ago. Or folks who liked to date outside their own race. And yet, in many countries, in many cultures, some 12 year olds are considered old maids if they have not married by `14.

My idea is the transformation of your minds. Of your reality.

What is yours?

oh i have met at least one, when i was a young boy :)

and i have no forbidden pleasures, sorry to disappoint you.

runciter

02-06-2009, 10:10 AM

sometimes they get caught:

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090529/mtl_surkis_child_porn_charges_090529/20090529?hub=MontrealHome

runciter

02-06-2009, 10:14 AM

what do you do to children, octo? what do you mean with "lay down the law"?

sukyspook

02-06-2009, 11:18 AM

sometimes they get caught:

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090529/mtl_surkis_child_porn_charges_090529/20090529?hub=MontrealHome

....and so they should....:

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/06/kray-twins-boys-top-people-sex-in.html

Irish Daily Mail
Monday, May 25th, 2009
By Mary Ellen Synon

The horror at the dark heart of a sordid, arrogant parliament

Here we are, a few words about Brussels and how it feels about child abuse. I’ll move onto the elections for the European parliament in a moment, but given the horrors of the Ryan report last week, I thought that you ought to know how seriously the euro-elite treat any suggestion of improper behaviour by adults towards children.

In other words I give you Daniel Cohn Bendit, an MEP for the German Green Party. He is a self-confessed kiddie-fiddler, but pulling down his trouser zip for tiny children hasn’t stopped him becoming one of the most influential members of parliament. Here is his story. Keep in mind this man has more power over the legislation of this country than does any member of the Dail.

snip

rest at:
http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=933

Crazed MI-5 & MI-6 Wreak Havoc for the Illuminati

May 28, 2009
by Henry Makow

snip

+ "Little Madelaine's [McCann's] parents were part of the Illuminati ring - mind control slaves themselves. They know what happened to her - their subconscious minds know exactly what happened but they were powerless to stop it. J K Rowling is also an Illuminati Monarch slave - she is an actress who has hardly put pen to paper regarding the Harry Potter books. The original author of the first four books - hasn't seen a penny from it - stolen goods. Rowling was present at the rite in which Madeleine died - hence her offer of a reward in public, was all the more sickening.

"Rowling was chosen to front this series of books because she was so malleable. She wanted fame and fortune without cost. Her Ashkenazim parents had bought her out of British Illuminati slavery and had also bought her what is known in the trade as a 'Pen and Ink Stand': A ghost-writer who works as an unpaid slave - one of British Intelligence's operatives."

snip

rest at:
http://www.henrymakow.com/mi-5_and_mi-6_wreak_havoc_for.html

...and there's more....sooooo much more....but we already know that don't we...and yet WE, the people who were brought up with 'old fashioned morals' often end up as being 'racist', 'homophobic', anti-semitic or just plain 'OLD FASHIONED' because we don't want to be a part of the Satanic/Luciferian 'do what thou will shall be the whole of the law' "liberal" mindset.

ex sheep

02-06-2009, 02:04 PM

some 12 year olds are considered old maids if they have not married by `14.

So are they considered old maids if they are 12, 13, or 14, do 12 year olds have to wait till they are 14 to realise that they are old maids, or do they instinctively know this when they are 12, so they hurry up and get married before they are 14, otherwise they might be old maids.
But how can they be considered old maids at 12 if they are not married by 14 :D

octopusrex

02-06-2009, 04:51 PM

what do you do to children, octo? what do you mean with "lay down the law"?

Feed them, clothe them, give them a good education. Make sure they are not easy prey for ANY predator. Teach them about the birds and the bees and their own bodies and how wonderful life can be when you are free from ... having to do what other people want you to do.

I also teach them to respect themselves, to be strong, to be assertive.

You know?

The basics.

Little boys I teach about the pleasures of little girls. Little girls I teach about the dangers of little boys.

Oh, lying down the law.. Well, mostly it has to do with.. Respect. Respecting others. I don't really allow lies, stealing.. hurting others. I draw the line at kicks on the groin and such. Ends up hurting the kid more if you don't ... lay down the law over those things. My opinion.

octopusrex

02-06-2009, 04:52 PM

So are they considered old maids if they are 12, 13, or 14, do 12 year olds have to wait till they are 14 to realise that they are old maids, or do they instinctively know this when they are 12, so they hurry up and get married before they are 14, otherwise they might be old maids.
But how can they be considered old maids at 12 if they are not married by 14 :D

Because it becomes increasingly harder for your parents to find you a good husband after a certain age.:D Especially if they are living on the streets.

octopusrex

02-06-2009, 04:55 PM

oh i have met at least one, when i was a young boy :)

and i have no forbidden pleasures, sorry to disappoint you.

Was he the "nice little dirty old man who likes to watch" kind or the "nasty little old man who likes to touchy-feely kind" or the "brutal rapist who threatened to kill your parents unless you gave him a blowjob kind"?

Was he a member of your family? Did you have sex with him? Was it consensual at first and then a source of guilt, non-consensual, etc...?

Little more info, please. Forums are about sharing after all.

runciter

02-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Feed them, clothe them, give them a good education. Make sure they are not easy prey for ANY predator. Teach them about the birds and the bees and their own bodies and how wonderful life can be when you are free from ... having to do what other people want you to do.

I also teach them to respect themselves, to be strong, to be assertive.

You know?

The basics.

Little boys I teach about the pleasures of little girls. Little girls I teach about the dangers of little boys.

Oh, lying down the law.. Well, mostly it has to do with.. Respect. Respecting others. I don't really allow lies, stealing.. hurting others. I draw the line at kicks on the groin and such. Ends up hurting the kid more if you don't ... lay down the law over those things. My opinion.

do you do the kind of things described in the german government's publication? maybe something more?

don't be shy, tell me if you like to have sexual interactions with children, and if such things are allowed in your country.

runciter

02-06-2009, 05:44 PM

Was he the "nice little dirty old man who likes to watch" kind or the "nasty little old man who likes to touchy-feely kind" or the "brutal rapist who threatened to kill your parents unless you gave him a blowjob kind"?

Was he a member of your family? Did you have sex with him? Was it consensual at first and then a source of guilt, non-consensual, etc...?

Little more info, please. Forums are about sharing after all.

do you think you can go on endlessly doing what you do? :)

runciter

02-06-2009, 05:55 PM

octo, i don't want to derail this thread.

we can continue here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10748

tyler

02-06-2009, 11:24 PM

Good man, Runciter. Way back a few days ago Octo and you were taking this thread awy from the interesting stuff that Suki is posting. I believe you are genuine but this Octopus character does post some odd stuff all over the place and none of it is worth a damn.

octopusrex

03-06-2009, 03:12 AM

octopusrex

03-06-2009, 03:14 AM

do you do the kind of things described in the german government's publication? maybe something more?

don't be shy, tell me if you like to have sexual interactions with children, and if such things are allowed in your country.

I only have nieces and nephews. Cleaning their clitoris and vagina (or penis) is none of my business. That's for daddy and mommy to do. As for the greman thing.. I donno. Don't you people clean your kids' asses?

octopusrex

03-06-2009, 03:15 AM

do you think you can go on endlessly doing what you do? :)

Eventually, old age, sickness and death gets us all. :)

sukyspook

03-06-2009, 11:42 AM

I only have nieces and nephews. Cleaning their clitoris and vagina (or penis) is none of my business. That's for daddy and mommy to do. As for the greman thing.. I donno. Don't you people clean your kids' asses?

Well I for one have had enough of your leery comments octo. If you post anything similar again I will report you to mods.

No doubt you have put people off the genuine info on this thread which is probably your intention.

Pazuzu:

. . .55". . .:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz47ZQlBwmQ&feature=channel_page

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/PazuzuDemonAssyria1stMilleniumBCE.jpg/380px-PazuzuDemonAssyria1stMilleniumBCE.jpg

Pazuzu

In Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, Pazuzu was the king of the demons of the wind, and son of the god Hanbi. He also represented the southwestern wind, the bearer of storms and drought.

Iconography

Pazuzu is often depicted as a combination of animal and human parts. He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, eagle-like taloned feet, two pairs of wings, a scorpion's tail, and a serpentine penis. He is often depicted with his right hand pointing upward.

Mythology

Pazuzu is the god of the southwest wind known for bringing famine during dry seasons, and locusts during rainy seasons. Recent research suggests Pazuzu may have been associated with a cold, northeasterly wind.[1] Pazuzu was said to be invoked in amulets which combat the powers of the malicious goddess, and hated rival, Lamashtu, who was believed to cause harm to mother and child during childbirth. Although Pazuzu is, himself, an evil spirit, he drives away other evil spirits, thus protecting humans against plagues and misfortunes.

In modern culture

In the 1971 novel "The Exorcist" and the movies based on the novel, Pazuzu is the evil spirit that possesses the young girl Regan. (Main article: Pazuzu (The Exorcist))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu

The Demon of the South-West Wind
by Stephen Sennitt

"Pazuzu, Lord of Fevers and Plagues, Dark Angel of the Four Winds with rotting genitals from which he howls through sharpened teeth over stricken cities…."

William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night

The mighty wind devil of the Assyrian and Babylonian wastelands can be considered as one of the most malevolent elemental forces in the world of mythology. As Pazuzu, this middle-eastern demon has reached popular attention in William Peter Blatty's sensational novel, The Exorcist. The film this novel inspired brought the subject of demonic possession into common parlance, but it was left to the misunderstood, atmospheric sequel, Exorcist II: The Heretic, directed by John Boorman, to represent the malefic powers of Pazuzu in an authentic, mythological context as a desert scavenger; bringer of desolation and plague. This was imaged effectively in the film as a vast locust swarm, heralding an apocalypse of starvation.

In his erudite book, The Domain of Devils, Eric Marple describes the wind demon as the most terrible of all demonic entities, having the power to spread loathsome diseases with his dry fiery breath. The demon has "for a head the almost fleshless skull of a dog"1 representing death, disease, and as the fleshless death's head of the desert scavenger, starvation. Significantly, William Woods states in his History of the Devil: "… in Mesopotamia the horned demon, Pazuzu, rode on the wind and carried malaria…"2 thus emphasising the demon's destructive role as "lord of fevers and plagues." Perhaps relating Pazuzu to the devouring dragon, Typhon, "angel of the fatal winds", equated with the disease Typhoid.

Another representation of the wind demon can be traced in the Old Testament, where the devil is described as a hairy black creature; a haunter of the desert wastelands.3

The idea of the wind devil as a desert creature may derive from the Egyptian concept of Set, the destroyer, most ancient of the gods, who was represented as a strange, dog-like animal, not unlike that scavenging denizen of the desert, the jackal. Kenneth Grant has called this manifestation of Set, Shugal "the desert fox symbolic of Set, the male half of the Beast 666."4 the number of Shugal being 333. The "female" half of the Beast is Choronzon (333), another pestilential being - representing Chaos in all its latent or manifested aspects. Choronzon is said to have driven Aleister Crowley insane by his invocation of the entity in the North African desert.5 Representing the malaise of chaos and destruction Choronzon is probably one of the most complex symbols in western occultism.

snip - rest at:

http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/sp_pazuzu.html

Do you remember the thread that covered the 'exploding bus' - scroll down to howie who's posted some stills of the whole 'handover' fiasco (imo!):

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33987&highlight=Myra+Hindley&page=5

And then there's this article from Matthew Delooze:

Sniffing out the King of Little Farts - On the Road to the Palace. A Delooze New Special Report

Back in October I was actually in the City of London trying to put some filming together with Richie at oneballradio.com. We had just been on Trafalgar Square and we were trying to get round all the main monuments. I wanted to get Buckingham Palace on film so we set off down The Mall on foot. The Mall is the main road, if you like, to Buckingham Palace therefore it is obviously monitored with top ranking security services 24 hours a day.

Anyway walking down the Mall, feeling sorry for myself and cursing my sore feet and dodgy knee, I saw the Duke of York monument to my right hand side and decided to stop and look to see if there was anything worth filming. I think Richie said ‘What the F’s that Matt?” pointing up to a statue that was high up on a roof.

Well it was before I visited specsavers so I squinted and looked up. I realised straight away that it was an Assyrian / Biblical god type statue. The word Beelzebub came into my head at the time. There was absolutely no large public signs about the statue in the area and obviously it was on the roof so unless I got hold of some SAS type secret agent sort of equipment there was no way I could get near the bugger. I knew I had to do something about this statue so like all fearless, die hard, truth seeking,

snip

rest at:

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/300

The reason for posting the Pazuzu info is because I was re-watching the awful ZION 2012 Olympics videos and did a double take after watching it many times - I finally recognised the 'punk' figure at 54"...
I have a sneaking suspicion that Roman Centurion headresses were so designed to harness the influence/to worship this demonic 'god' Pazuzu. Anyone who sported a 'mohican' hair do in the 70's was quite probably giving/BEING TRICKED into giving their energy to the same entity... Perhaps the Mohican Indians were worshipping the same entity too?? I'll do some investingating.

PLEASE LISTEN THE THIS ENTIRE MP3 - you won't be disappointed! - listen to Bob say that the journo's at the likes of Fox etc KNOW about the nwo/manipulation etc but they daren't say if they wish to keep their jobs...that means they're just as culpable by association then....:

Hour 1
The Power Hour 06/01/2009 Report:International Forecaster BOB CHAPMAN reports on how the U.S. is creating a stealth default on its debt by continuing to issue massive amounts of money and credit, and in the process devaluing the dollar. Plus, the latest Bilderberg meeting as well as another meeting of Illuminists. "America is in receivership and they should simply go into bankruptcy. We can bring our troops home, get rid of the Fed, pass trade tariffs, clear Wall Street out of Washington and let the treason and criminal trials begin." FREE One-Time NEWSLETTER: 1-877-479-8178 WEBSITES: http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com.. http://news.goldseek.com/internationalforecaster...

hour 2
Litigating attorney ELLEN HODGSON BROWN questions a spending spree that could very well turn America into the next Weimar Republic by pointing to chilling parallels between current government monetary policy and Weimar Germany's, when 50% of government spending was being funded by seigniorage – merely printing money. "It was horrible. Horrible! Like lightning it struck. No one was prepared. The shelves in the grocery stores were empty. You could buy nothing with your paper money." Read More by Ellen Brown: TPH Recommended Reading Books by Ellen Hodgson Brown: The WEB of DEBT available on: http://www.webofdebt.com "Forbidden Medicine" available: http://www.forbiddenmedicine.org

http://www.twowitnesses.us/the_power_hour_06_01.MP3

tyler

04-06-2009, 02:04 AM

sukyspook

04-06-2009, 10:46 AM

The stuff you are putting up here is extemely enlightening and important, Suki. I have just finished listening to all of the Brian Gerrish talks. Common Purpose is what we have to spread the word about.

No wonder you have attracted your very own troll trying to disrupt this thread.
Keep it coming. Thanks.

Mornin' Tyler - and thank you for your encouragement - I'm very much enjoying sharing what I discover and what has helped me understand how 'things are' and how they could really be...so long as people keep 'dropping in' I'll keep on posting things I think are relevant and might help some to 'see' - or rather I like to say 'feel' what's really going on and what WE can do about it.

The 'Luciferian Agenda' is pretty wide ranging, in fact it involves virtually everything we do - I recognised it 'full in the face' when I began to join the dots of all the ongoing bizarre events and for me, by 2003 there was no denying that this was, indeed, a coup against all of humanity which WE were/are being forced to perpetuate - UNTIL WE SAY NO MORE!!!

The agenda is also known by Islam in particular and I also find it very helpful to read/watch/listen to what people say from that religion. Contrary to what the lamestream media would have us believe - the majority of 'right-thinking/living' Muslims do NOT wish to 'rule the world' and just wish to live in peace and in a fair and honest society like us. The media has done a pretty good job of manipulating many British people to believe that Islam really is a threat to 'the west' - truth is, the system of 'the west' is humanity's main problem...the 'radicalised' Muslims are a product of that 'west'...

Here's a great mp3 from Darryl Bradford Smith with El Taher on Tuesday night which is a REAL message of hope for something better for humanity - not the false hope proferred by Obama/Brown/"politicians" in general:

June 2 09 p1
http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/EL.Taher/cii.smith-ElTaher.p1A.02-06-2009.mp3

p2
http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/EL.Taher/cii.smith-ElTaher.p2a.03-06-2009.mp3

I was looking for more info on Jay Weidner yesterday and began to watch this video which gave me a 'lift' - it's good to do that when the so called 'news' is so awful and brings ones emotional level down, which is obviously what it's supposed to do:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=542071194997922068&ei=poImSoKTBZzq-Qbgw7G0CQ&q=jay+weidner+2012

I've found myself talking, quite 'out of the blue', of a 'miracle' this week (it was quite a surprise to me I'll tell you lol!).

I believe that if we really want a miracle - and want it from the heart and for the benefit of all of humanity, we will get that miracle...

I was looking for another couple of mp3's but haven't found them yet - but did find the following which, if you haven't heard them, are fascinating and highly pertinent once again - links in nicely with Jay Weidner:

John Anthony West - Ancient Egypt

December 14, 2008

Alternative Egyptologist and Author John Anthony West comes on the program to talk about his research and work into ancient Egypt and the current financial turmoil. He is the author of Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt, The Traveler's Key to Ancient Egypt, and The Mystery of the Sphinx. He is also behind the DVD series Magical Egypt. We discuss what the ancient science of the Egyptians can offer us today, we discuss how the current financial turmoil is connected to the ancient world. We talk about John's background and how he got interested in Ancient Egypt. Topics Discussed: Great Sphinx of Giza, Water Erosion on The Sphinx, Dating of the Sphinx, Paleoclimatology, Robert Schoch, R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz, Temple of Man, The Financial Crisis, Materialism, "The Church of Progress", Enlightenment, Gerald Celente, Gurdjieff, Astrology and much more. Don't miss our subscriber interview with John Anthony West as we continue talking about the science of the Egyptians, Doctrine of immortality, The Cathedrals builders, Dynasties of Ancient Egypt, Monuments of stone much more.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/12dec/RICR-081214-jawest.mp3

Members hour:
John Anthony West - Ancient Egypt Continued
December 14, 2008
We continue with John Anthony West talking about the science of the ancient Egyptians, the Doctrine of immortality, the Cathedrals builders, Dynasties of Ancient Egypt and Monuments in stone. Topics discussed: Science of the Soul, Spirituality, Conspiracy, "The Church of Progress", Collapse of the old system and Building of the new, The Kali Yuga Cycle, Temple of Man, Precession and much more.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/12dec/RICR-081214-jawesth46-SUB.mp3

sukyspook

04-06-2009, 02:26 PM

Video:

After all, the British Created Hitler:

http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=10434

sukyspook

06-06-2009, 10:57 AM

I'm guessing that most of your recognise, as I have, that "politicians" are not their own people in that they have to back the 'party line' on everything - especially by the 'whips' who whip them into the party line in the HofCommons. This has become a fine art under 'new liebore' here in the UK and can be recognised in all the other parties imo.

Having discovered this kind of 'briefing' at first hand in 2004/5, I often wondered what such a Labour party-line briefing document would look like. Thanks to Guido Fawkes the current brief is online thus - for 'briefing' I'd say 'script':

ELECTION BRIEFING: FRIDAY MORNING

Tough times for Labour – but not the breakthrough the Tories wanted either. We need to work hard together to come through this recession, listen to the voters, and earn back people’s trust after the expenses scandal. But if we do that then we can be confident that in a head-to-head with the Tories – where the choice is between a Labour party led by Gordon Brown and determined to stand by people, or a Tory party led by David Cameron that would walk on by when people need help most – then we can go forward from today and win.

I think the whole cabinet have found James Purnell’s resignation surprising and disappointing. Labour Party supporters were out campaigning hard yesterday and this is the last thing they would have wanted to see. James is still in the early stages of his career and I’m sure he’ll be back. His decision is the wrong one, as cabinet colleagues have said.

I think James has drawn the wrong conclusion for two reasons. First, the public wants to send us a message that after a month of hearing about moats and mortgages and duck houses that they are angry about expenses and want them sorted out fast. Second, they are worried about their jobs and want us to return our focus to accelerating economic recovery. Now those are the plans that Gordon Brown is working on and over the coming week he will make sure that he has a first class team full square behind him.

We now need to listen to voters’ anger over expenses and to act. The last thing the country needs right now is for the party to turn inward. Faith in politics has been badly shaken and needs to be restored. Families are worried about their homes and jobs and are trusting us to stand by them and bring them through the downturn.

It is already clear that these are going to be a tough set of elections at a tough time for the Labour Party – we’re in the middle of a recession, turnout is significantly down, people are clearly angry about expenses and as the party of government with the most MPs, it looks like we’re feeling the brunt of that anger.

There are some interesting results. We’ve won seats from the SNP in Scotland and held seats in places like Hastings where the Tories might have been expected to advance – meanwhile the Tories came seventh in the Hartlepool mayoral election.

Tough times for Labour but not great for Cameron either. Voters who are angry about MPs flipping homes or cleaning their moats on expenses are staying at home or voting for minor parties – but they are not switching in great numbers to the Tories. The Tories got 44% last year, when the local votes are projected into a nationwide vote. This time they’re predominantly in their heartlands but they don’t appear to be lifting off from that result. That tells us that Labour need to respond to people’s concerns but in a head-to-head, we can still win the fight with the Tories.

It’s hard to translate European and local election results into consequences for a General Election. In 1989, when we were in opposition, Labour won the European elections – but lost the 1992 General Election. In 2004, Labour were down to 22% – but we beat the Conservatives in the elections the following year.

Sunday’s national results will tell us a bit more. Anything less than 36% for the Tories means that David Cameron is falling short of where William Hague was in 1999. They had 27 MEPs last time – it will be interesting to see if they get many, many more.

Going forward: in the coming weeks we will set out widescale plans for cleaning up politics and accelerating our recovery and reforming public services.

Q&A

James Purnell’s Resignation?

I am obviously disappointed about James’s resignation. The Prime Minister and the rest of the Cabinet are absolutely focussed on the big challenges of cleaning up our politics and getting Britain back to work quicker:

how we guide the economy through the downturn and strengthen it for the future

how we push ahead with reform of and investment in our public services

how we renew trust in our democracy and Parliament.

It is sad that James has gone but we get on with the job of helping people through this downturn fairly. The PM will continue to give his undivided attention to addressing these great challenges facing our country and putting the interests of the British people first and foremost.

John Hutton resignation?

John is going to step down as an MP at the next election for personal reasons. Really sad to see him go – he’s done a fantastic job. Whole party will thank him for his contribution over the years at Dept for Health and at BERR, and particularly for his recent leadership at the Ministry of Defence, where, in the most challenging times, he has overseen the end of combat operations in Iraq and supported our troops in bringing security and stability to Afghanistan.

Time to change leader?

Right now we face the two great challenges of this era – an economic crisis that has engulfed the world and caused global recession; and a political crisis that has engulfed Westminster. In Gordon Brown we have someone not only with the economic leadership and experience to tackle the global recession and to steer us through the downturn but with the integrity and determination to sort out the challenge of MPs’ expenses.

Has Labour been worst hit by expenses row?

The vast majority of MPs work terrifically hard for their constituents and have been appalled by some of the wilder stories about moats or swimming pools. All agree that we need to take action now to restore faith in Parliament. It’s important to remember that the expenses crisis is not just confined to government but to all parties – and even David Cameron has had to answer questions about his two mortgages.

What about resignations from Jacqui Smith and Hazel Blears?

Sad to see them leave – both have an excellent record. As Home Secretary, Jacqui has cut crime; introduced the tough Australian points based immigration system; and rolled out neighbourhood policing across the country. And as Communities Secretary, Hazel has led reforms in local government and ensured that we’ve had better local services as well as the lowest average council tax increase in 15 years.

What are you doing on expenses?

The vast majority of our MPs have worked terrifically hard and are doing an excellent job. They didn’t come into politics to get rich but to help people and all of them are determined to restore faith in Parliament. The old system is dead. An independent-led body will now check the claims of every MP over the past 4 years. We have agreed that in future MPs should no longer set their own pay, allowances or standards of conduct and that these should be handed over to independent regulation. MPs’ allowances are being stripped right back:

- no more claims on moats or swimming pools – no claims on furniture, household goods, gardening, cleaning, or stamp duty;

- no more ‘flipping’ or avoiding Capital Gains Tax;

- mortgage claims only on interest and capped at a maximum of £1,250 a month;

- no more London MPs claiming second homes;

- no more second home allowances for those in grace-and-favour homes;

- and no more secret second jobs.

Don’t we need a General Election?

Neither of the two great challenges we face – the economic challenge and the political challenge – would be solved by an election. And the last thing the country needs is for Labour to be talking to itself. That is why the Prime Minister and the Cabinet are focussed on the big challenges that matter to the British people: cleaning up our politics and getting Britain back to work quicker.

Why are the BNP winning in places?

BNP success down to three things: first, gut reaction of voters wanting to punish main parties; second, very low turnout; and third, their deliberate strategy of attempting to gloss over their racist nature. That means all main parties, not just Labour, need to listen and respond to voters’ anger over expenses; encourage people to get out and vote – which they will do in greater numbers at an election; and all of us need to uncover the true face of the BNP who are led by a man with convictions for inciting racial hatred. Many of the people who’ve voted for BNP are not racist and I think many of them would be appalled by the nature of that organisation as it begins to show its true face.

Do you accept part responsibility for rise in BNP?

The BNP are a fascist Party – our parents and grandparents fought a World War to defeat what the BNP stands for. There is a duty on all parties to fight the values of the BNP. We’ve campaigned hard and the PM was out on Monday directly addressing the threat of the BNP – quite unusually for a sitting PM.

The Tories are saying that Labour is to blame for the rise in the BNP – are they right?

No. We would much rather be fighting the Tories in white working class areas but in many of the places targeted by the BNP there has been no sign of the Tories since Margaret Thatcher in the mid-80s. We know that it tends to be unemployed men who are most likely to vote for the BNP – that’s why it is so important that we reach out to that group – for example, we are giving a guarantee of a job or training place to every young person out of work for more than a year. Instead of trying to get some kind of party political advantage out of this, the Tories should be setting out what they would do to help the unemployed in white working class areas, instead of ignoring them.

Background facts

Most of the seats are in county council Tory heartlands – and the last time we fought them was on General Election days when turnout was much higher – so our expectation is low

The councils up for election are predominantly County Councils in two tier areas (27). The three Labour-controlled councils majority (Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Staffordshire) are all vulnerable.

There are also Mayorals – although we only hold one out of the four up for election and that in an area the Tories have traditionally held

Highlights so far:

Labour gain from SNP in Glasgow (Anniesland / Drumchapel Ward). Anne McTaggart wins 2689 – 1698 on second stage of transfers

Labour gain from SNP in North Lanarkshire (Coatbridge North and Drumboig Ward). Peter Sullivan wins on several stages of transfers after leading SNP by 37% – 30% of first prefs

Hartlepool mayoral results:

first preferences only. Tories beaten into 7th place behind UKIP and the BNP. Lib Dems losing deposit.

Results for Hastings:

Braybrooke and Castle – Labour hold with 47% of the vote

Central St Leonards and Gensing – Labour hold with 40% of the vote

Hollington and Wishing Tree – labour hold with 43% of the vote

http://www.labour.org.uk Sent by email from the Labour Party, promoted by Ray Collins on behalf of The Labour Party, both at 39 Victoria Street, London SW1H 0HA. Website: labour.org.uk ; to join or renew call 08705 900 200.

http://order-order.com/2009/06/06/post-election-on-message-lines-to-take-from-labour-hq/

I find all this deeply disturbing and which is why I could never be part of such a political party again. Especially jawdropping to me is the para in bold regarding the BNP being Fascist - this is what most people who STILL insist on voting for Labour, or indeed the other two lamestream parties don't 'get' - Governments taking over banks and 'PPPs' - public private partnerships, where WE pay and the private companies profit IS fascism and it's exactly where we are all being steered!!! Of course, the BNP provide the 'racist' angle which other parties can use to discredit them - I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE BNP AT ALL so am no supporter of them either.

...and the fascist of all fascists is, of course, Lucifer/Satan or at least, the Luciferian/Satanic mindset that creates all this to one end. Total global control.

I've posted the following mp3's because if you don't know 'the three amigo's, you should! I listen to the show every week and Bob on several other shows too - part 2 has a low-key rant from John which pretty much sums it all up - I think it's good to hear others explain what most of us know, it gives me hope anyway (not Obamahope though lol!).

National Intel 06/02/2009 Report:Hour 1: Guests: Bob Chapman and Robby Noe...l The Three Amigos John, Bob, and Robby discuss U.S. financial issues, precious metals, corrupt politics, and more..For more information go to:TheInternationalForecaster.com EaglesUp.com

http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_01_06_02.MP3

National Intel 06/02/2009 ReportLHour 2: Continuing with the Amigos, further discussion on banks, history, and phone calls... For more information go to

http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_02_06_02.MP3

sukyspook

06-06-2009, 10:18 PM

Yesterday morning on BBC ‘News’ there was an abrupt cut from the studio to a location in Normandy, France close to the PEGASUS BRIDGE where there was a re-enactment of a parachute drop to commemorate the D Day Landings 65 years ago (6+5=11).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pegasus_bridge_new.jpg

Also yesterday I was reading this amazing sync-blog and lo and behold, ¾ of the way down is a section about Baraq (Barack):
Obama-Islam's 'Magical Dark Horse'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTY7KfdvMs&feature=channel_page

September 26, 2008
Barack Obama and Slavery
By Bill Warner director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

snip

Baraq was the name of the winged horse-like creature that took Mohammed to Paradise in the Night Journey. Baraq can also mean God's blessing. Obama is Swahili for Osama, who was one of Mohammed's chief warriors. Osama also means lion. Hussein reminds some Americans of Saddam Hussein, and Obama's supporters get upset if it is used. Hussein was the name of Mohammed's grandson. So Obama's entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest. Barack Hussein Obama means [Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors].

Snip

read the rest at:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_slavery.html

Also yesterday, I was reading this fascinating sync-blog in which, ¾ of the way down, the winged horse was mentioned once again:

Synchs Names Node Magick: The World According to William Thuther in Three Parts - Part II - Dark Miracle on the Hudson

http://tiny.cc/x8IAo

Allow me a little synchromystic self-indulgance – as a child I had a little grey 2” high pottery ‘Pegasus’ which I was very fond of and treasured for many years, in fact, it’s probably still around somewhere. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

It was interesting timing that part 13 of Masonic Secrets featuring the location of Sirius on Earth, Cairo and The Pyramids was posted earlier this week and at the end of the same week, Obama was in Cairo and at the Pyramids – the Pillars of Enoch so some say – if you haven’t seen it, here’s part 13A:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXsh15jEx0&feature=channel_page

Did you see Persephone at the Armed Forces Shooting Club at 5’ 46”?? (see below for more on her).

…and here’s Barack at the Sphinx from a great and favourite blog of mine:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YKPd1gUPBrw/SihGcZQ8bMI/AAAAAAAAC8U/K76zyg1DcOI/s1600-h/guardianobama.jpg

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/06/surprise-barackobamun-tours-giza.html

(imo and fwiw – the jug-eared Obama cartouche IS A HOAX).

Check out the winged disk logo on the podium lololol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbn2ALh-2VA

Stairway to Sirius:

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search?q=%22Stairway+to+Sirius%3A%22

Further manipulation of our ‘reality’: - WARNING – POOR SOUND WITH INCREASES AND DECREASES IN VOLUME – but well worth wading through imo:

Freemasonry’s Secret Foundation p1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldKa47-RFEc&feature=channel_page

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1J0h7FgcMc&feature=channel_page

In the centre of Indianapolis is the Soldiers and Sailors Monument which Steve spoke of in the ‘foundation’ videos. Atop the monument is Persephone: “In God we trust”??? but which God?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soldiers_and_Sailors_Indy.jpg

Snip

“Her historical name is Persephone. She also stands atop the United States Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

[B]The act of standing upon property is an aggressive legal demonstration. Your lawyer will tell you that standing upon a thing is an ultimate proof of ownership in adverse possession.

Persephone, with the ancient pagan heritage she embodies, quite literally... owns the entire facility she crowns. The United States Congress belongs to her.

But how did Persephone (officials gave her the name Freedom) achieve her place of honor over Washington? Who put her there? When? Under what circumstances? What is the theological history of this “only authorized Symbol of American heritage”? What is her future?

Persephone was the Graeco-Roman goddess of the psyche or soul. She was abducted by Saturn’s son Hades, who enthroned her as queen-consort of his dominion, the underworld. Significantly, Persephone was distinguished by fifth-century Athenian scholastics for her... immaculate conception.”

snip

http://home.earthlink.net/~walterk1/Patr/PatrPics/persephtiny.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~walterk1/Patr/US/USPagan.html

It appears to me that 'they' are repeating historical events/births/deaths/possibly tragedies etc via locations/dates/times/planetary alignments etc in order to retain control of our "reality"/"dimension"...in cahoots with other dimensional 'entities' whom 'they' worship as 'gods' - and trick us to worshipping the same entities via names/dates/celebs/symbols/sigils etc etc...

I hope when I press 'submit reply' that this lot doesn't disappear again as it did earlier - and not for the first time either! - arrrgghhhh!!!

siphon880di

07-06-2009, 11:03 AM

sukyspook

07-06-2009, 12:08 PM

I agree that they're trying to overthrow God and then people will die and go to hell.

Makes sense. What I'm going to say puts a new spin on things and it comes from my experiences with aliens tied to occult practices, and it ultimately turning me towards the Bible.

Lucifer wants revenge against God's human creation. He sets up the demon-worshipping Illuminati, sets up propaganda that aliens are real, and disguise as aliens, etc. There are stories that greys appear and disappear and that encounters don't last that long because they can't stay on the physical plane long enough. There are also stories where people called out for Jesus and the whole experience is over. I for one experience that on almost all occasion when aliens appear to me.

Also, the pyramid in the back of the dollar bill, reads "New SECULAR Order". Notice the secular part.

The pyramid is not completed yet. The next phase is probably the New SKULL & BONES Order. People die from diseases, mass depopulation, etc and a whole lot of people go to Hell. Also, it would be the biggest sacrifice, giving enough energy to the other dimension, and letting Luciferian "aliens" appear in the physical dimension long enough so that they'll go public and assume control. All the occultic symbols in hollywood, and terrorist acts, do one thing: take energy from this world and give it to their dimension so that eventually the antichrist and aliens can appear more permanently. That's right: I said it - a counterfiet Jesus Christ that comes on a mothership.

In the end, they rewrote history to make Christianity seem bad, and brought the age of enlightenment. The fathers of the age of enlightenment/science, and also the founding fathers of modern democracy all or most were freemasons! This all culminates to a secular order. It seems like science and modern society improved our lives. They only want us think that way.

All the funds have been controlled when they were sitting in high thrones during the middle ages, and now it's covertly through secret societies and bureaucracy. Mind control occurs or demonic possession occurs when a person sold his soul. Either way, they pull most of the strings.

Get the mass to believe aliens is a possibility with the Roswell crash and hollywood propanda that spun off of it. Who says the Roswell crash can't be staged to appear like they have got alien materials and then covered it up? Hitting two birds with one stone in regards to the communities out there and their agenda. Get them indoctrinated that the world is purely materialistic and determined by physics, completely disregarding aliens at the same time, and the idea of aliens making God seem a fairytale (after all, evolution lead to aliens, so the whole genesis story "must be" false). In the end, the satanic Illuminati and interdimensional "aliens" will lead people to hell.

I can't disagree with one thing you posted siphon - simply and coherently put - a great post.

HOWEVER - following on from there - 'they' have to have control over our minds in order to lower our own individual 'vibrations' to the equivalent of the lower 3 chakras in order to make us exist in a 'negative' state ie downtrodden; decaying; decrepit; diseased; disempowered; degenerate - ultimately spiritually DEAD - notice how most words to describe 'them' are 'de' and 'dis'.

To control our minds - 'they' have to want US to give away our power which in turn, empowers 'them'. 'They' can't be seen to simply take power, it's up to us to take back or give it away. However, if 'they' get really REALLY desperate, who knows what cosmic laws they might break. IMO they've broken many already throughout the generations and I guess sometime, somewhere, they will have to pay...

WE have to learn the Truth and live EMpowered; enlivened; enjoying our lives; with empathy and hence....compassion which after the vibe of LOVE is the one that 'embeds' our own 'spirituality' - for want of a better word which is what can improve the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual 'lot' of ourselves and ultimately, when enough people embrace this for themselves, will improve the 'lot' of humanity.

I'm watching the following wonderful video in snippets whilst attending to 'normal' every day things (groan) but what this inspiring man explains - and it's not always easy to 'get' - is awesome and explains the physics, quantum and cosmic, of how Creation works (his theory) - the best is yet to come I believe - it's 4 hours long and so is part 2 apparently!

It was a joy to read your post Siphon and it's a great explanation of our predicament which could help others understand the 'big picture' and expose such shams as what's happening in "UK Politics" currently, where the puppets of the forces who wish to control this reality are desperately struggling to retain control of the illusion of their postion of 'power and respect' and prevent our recognition of the Truth that they are all liars/actors and working for what really do appear to be ODE's or OTHER DIMENSIONAL ENTITIES.
..imo, the 'spell' is broken!!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335

tyler

07-06-2009, 12:42 PM

sukyspook

09-06-2009, 11:41 AM

OK, just because you recommended him, I gave this guy yet another listen. I put up with his whiney, childish, Tiny Tim like voice for 23 minutes and just couldn't take any more! 23 minutes of talking about a dot or something. Totally uninspiring! I'm just not meant to listen to this guy! I give up. Maybe it gets better as it goes along but I have other things to listen to and read.
Keep it coming, Suki.

Loved the Egyptologist on Red Ice. I think I will now go and listen to some of his talks on his website. John Anthony West.

Hi Tyler - I'm no fan of Grant either - but what he explains in that 'lecture' is a tiny part, imo of course, of how 'they' attain power and ultimately control over us - UNTIL WE SAY - AND LIVE MINDFULLY SAYING: 'NO MORE'...

Staying on the topic of power and control, the following article came up again - I first read it about 4 years ago and it's one of my all time fave's and whilst I'M NO FAN OF SHERRY SHRINER, imo she's spot on with this one:

snip

Creating Loosh

Aliens or fallen angels refer to this energy as loosh and they operate in the same way as the Luciferians do. In fact it was learning about the aliens that I first learned about this loosh. I didn't realize humans were feeding off this same type of energy and when I finally did it made me realize how closely they all work together and how similar they all really are as Satan worshippers, literally. But for this article I am just going to focus on the Luciferians themselves.

To obtain loosh people must be deceived, used, abused, manipulated, and even killed in order to become this energy source which is a food source for Luciferians who feed off of other peoples emotions. It can come from deception or terror and horror or any number of ways and I'm going to try and pinpoint these from what I have learned.

Imagine a church full of people singing and worshipping the Lord, yet unbeknownst to them the pastor of the church is a Satanist. The pastor works the Luciferian system of being loyal to Lucifer and secretly worships Lucifer. This works the best in Pentecostal congregations because pastors can and do use tongue speaking to call on Satan's presence and Satan's power to perform miracles and no one else can understand what they are saying. The leader masks it in the form of prayer and the people are deceived by it. In this instance the leader or pastor receives great energy from the church members who are singing praises or worshipping the Lord because as the leader of the church he arrogantly accepts and receives that worship to himself and for Lucifer. He stands in front of them all and accepts their worship as being to him and Lucifer.

It is in this way that many church members and those who follow religions are used as pawns to give Satan power. Are they victims or are they at fault themselves? They are at fault themselves. If they were truly seeking the Lord and being led by Him they wouldn't be deceived by Luciferians. By sitting in errors and deceptions they become open access to demonic entities themselves. The Lord would be able to open their eyes and pull them out of these deceptions but many refuse to seek the truth in all things and arrogantly refuse to believe or admit they are being deceived. Or they ignore His small voice for the louder one in their heads. It is in this way that they become pawns of the devil and open doorways for him to access and feed off of.

Religion, and there are many of them, creates an atmosphere of loosh energy and if a particular one is headed by a Luciferian then that Satanist is credited and rewarded for creating and instigating that loosh. The one who creates and instigates loosh is the chief benefactor of it and the one credited and rewarded from Satan for obtaining it. At the same time, other Luciferians can be present and enjoy some of this loosh for themselves as well. Even the aliens can drop in and feed off it.

Another way to create loosh is through rock, rap, country, or any kind of music and the musicians who create it are rewarded for it. For those who are in the Luciferian system they feed off the emotions their music creates and how it affects those who listen to it. They get their loosh and Satanic rewards in that way.

Politicians who pass legislation which enslaves, angers, or puts the people in fear feed off those emotions. Or if they make the people happy they feed off that and twist it as one being empowered by them and worshipped by them. They are in a position of power as it is, a political office is power over the people by election, yet they will always seek more. How much loosh they can create while in office is what they will feed off of and be rewarded by. That is why many of them will turn to committing and hiding despicable crimes and using their political power to hide it so they can use and abuse the power of their office as a launchpad to create even more loosh.

Teachers who have power over the minds of those they teach, feed off the effects of their teaching on others. For some reason being a Satanist in a position as a Sunday School teacher has great power. Because it is a deceptive power. They teach the wrong things that negatively affects those they teach, or they feed off the energy of the students who are there to learn about the Lord and feed off it for themselves. Being a Sunday school teacher is usually a stepping stone for them to obtain higher positions of trust and leadership in the churches they are infiltrating and trying to control, destroy, and feed off of.

And then there is a completely hideous side of loosh. This is loosh created from terror, pain, suffering, agony, horror, injury, and death. A slow, suffering death is preferred with intense agony. These types of emotions created by all these kinds of feelings and pain are what are fed off of. Imagine an innocent child being horrible abused and then killed. The fear and pain of such an experience creates loosh for the person causing it. He gets a rush, a high from it. And those who make careers out of this sort of thing creating a lot of this type of loosh on a constant basis will rank high in the Luciferian system. That is why you will hear of children sex slave rings reaching into the White House, United Nations, and governments around the world. It is the politicians who establish and protect these types of crimes and abuses because they are the ones who can hide them and keep the fact they exist out of the media that they can control. Abusing the innocent creates a high amount of loosh.

To serve Satan means to pay the piper. And you pay the piper with loosh. And in the piper's eyes, the more loosh you create the more status you can have in his kingdom. He obtains his kingdom or realm of rulership on earth by deception. And he does that through the secret societies and groups like the Illuminati that are created to control the earth and run it for him and through individual followers who branch out and infiltrate every facet of our society to build loosh nets for themselves and for Satan to feed off of. The more loosh Satan gets, the more power he has, in turn the more loosh a follower can create the more reward he will receive.

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rest at:

http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/control.htm

The following set of vids are well worth watching and I had to stop and 'rewind' several times at jawdropping moments for me. The series is being taken down so if you fancy a look, which I recommend, get on it quick!!:

1 of 7 Fallen Angels – Hollywood Insiders (Ill in the movies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-RDErIh38&feature=related

p3 (2 missing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhFpVYB2b8&feature=channel_page

p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anGaNWQRZgk&NR=1

p5 sound disabled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtIhfLvdlTQ&feature=channel_page

p6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5we9-wIqLvM&feature=related

p7 Trains Portals and keys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efmmVcBFug0

extras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AWaFNj-tc&feature=related

...and finally: an excellent mp3 on the state of UK 'government'/Obamanation and his 'doings'/the banksters/bliar/Air France flight etc etc:

Dr. Bill Deagle 06/08/2009 Report:HOUR THREE SPECIAL -- EIR EXECUTIVE INTELLIGENCE REVIEW -- HARLEY SCHLANGER -- UPDATE ON WORLD ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND SOLUTIONS

http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_03_06_08.MP3

siphon880di

09-06-2009, 11:56 AM

Referring to the post just above mines, ^^, excellant post! Like how you called it loosh. :)

It makes total sense because entities always tried to scare me or stimulate me so they could take energy. It's usually the fear response they want. I can't think of why else they're so sadistic other than they need the energy to survive or connect with our world.

ex sheep

09-06-2009, 03:16 PM

I'm catching up suky,
at last,
and just to say thanks for all the work your doing, its appreciated :)

sukyspook

10-06-2009, 07:19 PM

Nota Bene: - this isn't about Islam; Christianity; Judaism; Catholisism; right; left, etc - it's about humanity having been

'HAD'

I was looking for the following mp3 links from David Livingstone last week - I went back to Red Ice and got them again.....great timing given the great masonic/Iran expose on Icke headlines page today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igdQJOLT-2M

David Livingstone - Al-Qaida, Wahhabism & The Asiatic Brethren

January 22, 2009

We begin to discuss the modern "Boogey man" Al-Qaida, the connection to Western Intelligence agencies and the "philosophy" of Jihadd. We move on to discuss the CIA, Selefi, the background on the Muslim Brotherhood, Asiatic Brethren, The Wahhabis, Egyptian Freemasonry, Cagliostro, J.E. Marconis, Lord Palmerston, Occult roorts of the Nazi ideology, Theodor Reuss, OTO, Aleister Crowley, Jamal Afghani, The Hermetic Brotherhood of Light, Otto Skorzeny, Power of Nightmares, A Centy of War, Baha'i Movement, Kissinger, Petrodollar recycling, Oil, Drugs, Opium, Cocaine, Taliban, Afghanistan, The Ottoman Empire, BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), Clinton, Barry Seal, Garry Web, Ibn Saud, Osama bin Laden & "Tim Osman", Mumbai Terrorist Attacks.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/01jan/RICR-090122-dlivingstone.mp3

p2

David Livingstone - Al-Qaida, Wahhabism & The Asiatic Brethren

January 22, 2009

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/01jan/RICR-090122-dlivingstone55s-SUB.mp3

...and here's one of David's websites where you can read 'The Dying God' online:

http://www.thedyinggod.com/

I bought a copy of David's book "Terrorism Illuminati" a couple of years ago and highly recommend it - here's the related site:

http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/

...and if you're ready to go further down the rabbit hole:

The World of Jinn 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_vm3UMyho&feature=related

sukyspook

11-06-2009, 10:57 AM

sukyspook

12-06-2009, 08:53 PM

Hot off the......Internet (used to be press eh for us 'oldies') - the latest mp3 from Jeff Rense with our old pal Tim Rifat. I haven't listened to it yet so 'flying blind' myself. I hope he has something interesting to tell us:

Wednesday 10th June 2009:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_061009_hr1.mp3

Suke

Well, Tim certainly did have a lot of useful and interesting things to say - this was one of his best mp3's - as good as the one from January 2008 in which he exposed the demonic forces used by the likes of the Rothschild satanists to retain control in this dimension:

Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat: Re Rothschild etc - Tim (and my) fave subjects!

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jan2008/d6fm38/rense_013108_hr1.mp3

I just came across the following video - I sincerely hope and pray that this is for real - if you haven't yet watched Leo's Project Camelot i/v's, they follow this short video from Ben Fulford and Leo Lyon Zagami who, until very recently, was hospitalized in Italy with what appeared to be a nervous breakdown:

Fulford and Zagami v The Illuminati (please let this be for real):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqPg-mc1CIQ

Leo on Project Camelot:

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLfRsReGII

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8BIAftpqiM

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qcfqid8oi8

IT'S NEVER THE MAN - IT'S THE MESSAGE.

I'll be at the British Constitution Group Conference in London tomorrow - I hope to bump into others from the forum there....say hi if you see a middle aged, reddish-haired lady on her own!!

https://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/images/wanted.png

https://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/conference/index.php#book

tyler

14-06-2009, 12:54 AM

ex sheep

14-06-2009, 12:04 PM

Sukyspook, I really think you should re-post this on another thread, I think if this was real that it should receive more viewing, can you imagine, no more chemtrails, codex, fluoride, aspartame, no tax, proper TV, no more hunger in the world, health for everyone, spiritual healing, oh I could go on forever, I so much want this, or am I just dreaming.

http://www.youtube.com/v/kqPg-mc1CIQ

tyler

14-06-2009, 05:27 PM

Puleeze! Do people really take these two clowns seriously?

Gimme a break! :D

sukyspook

14-06-2009, 07:42 PM

Damn,damn and damn again!

I only just read this post today!

If I had known you were going to be in London I would have come along and treated you to lunch or something.

I wish you had messaged me that you were coming. :mad:

Next time Tyler, 31st October, I look forward to sharing lunch with you!

Sukyspook, I really think you should re-post this on another thread, I think if this was real that it should receive more viewing, can you imagine, no more chemtrails, codex, fluoride, aspartame, no tax, proper TV, no more hunger in the world, health for everyone, spiritual healing, oh I could go on forever, I so much want this, or am I just dreaming.

http://www.youtube.com/v/kqPg-mc1CIQ

I guess you'll have seen p2 by now ExSheep.....in which Leo shows his true 'masonic' colours of which we must be extremely vigilant - imo, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnNTDWdIJek

....then we go on to Princess Nakamaru with Leo - watch all 3 parts, it gets better. I believe SHE is sincere and much of what she says makes 'sense' - but always beware of 'interracting' with any 'spirits'/'light'.....:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb0hA1A5N8A&feature=related

...however, then there's Leo who, at one time between 2006 - 2008 I believed was telling the Truth and exposing the 'manipulators'.....these days I'm undecided and upon viewing this latest part 2 with Ben...I feel he's still working for 'them'.

Puleeze! Do people really take these two clowns seriously?

Gimme a break! :D

As above Tyler!

Here are three new mp3's addressing our current predicament and are highly relevant to the solution. They address topics mentioned by Ben and Leo:

June 11: FAMOUS AMERICAN JUDGEBUSTER SHERMAN H. SKOLNICK EXPOSES BRIAN MULRONEY AND PAUL MARTIN AS MEMBERS OF AN EMBEZZLERS AND DRUG SMUGGLING GANG IN SERVICE TO THE BUSH/CLINTON CRIME FAMILIES - AND SO MUCH MORE!!!!

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/12853/shock_talk_2009-06j-11.mp3

June 11 09

Escape the Paradigm with George Freund and his guest, Timothy Spearman from the Conspiracy Cafe:

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/12839/conspiracy_cafe_2009-06j-11_-_tim_spearman.mp3

Sorry, but you'll have to go to one of the links to download the mp3 - I always use Mediafire:

TOPIC: Space Shuttle Endeavour, the International Space Station, WWIII, the 13 month lunar calendar, Ea, knowledge, Sonia Sotomayor, the US Supreme Court, 42, Manhattanhenge, 17, Obama in Egypt, Akhenaten, reincarnation...

TIME: 3:24:14

SIZE: 35.1 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?dymizkrtvng
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6E469GNW

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/61344533613ce00b/

The info I post here is what I've read/watched/listened to so that others can consider it for themselves. I could tell you what I REALLY think - but I'm hoping that some will 'get it' and tell me what I believe I'm 'on to'...

...in fact, what I'm 'on to' is being echoed in so many places, not least in the 3 mp3's above and by some of the brilliant speakers at the 'Lawful Rebellion' conference yesterday - THANK YOU to all concerned.

sukyspook

15-06-2009, 08:51 PM

A lovely surprise for a new week - a 10 x part, 2 hour special from Edge Media which was recorded very recently in England - Leo Chalmers with FREEMAN!!! (yay!!).

ENJOY!!!:

part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAKkB3DTw3U&feature=related

sukyspook

17-06-2009, 12:32 AM

Last week I took delivery of Manly P Hall's book: "The Secret Destiny of America" which is amongst a collection of important and previously out-of-print books which I got from Amazon.com (.co.uk is sadly lacking in esoteric books imo) and which is being reprinted as 'budget' titles by Jeremy P Tarcher/Penguin books (thanks to them!).

I didn't realise that the book contained another amazing short book by Hall: "America's Assignment with Destiny" which contains a lot of info, like 'Secret Destiny' about the Phoenix and Quetzalcoatl.

I had long suspected that the 'eagle' of America is, in fact, a Phoenix and Mr Hall confirms, as far as his 'confirming' goes...you know, never quite stating fact but inferring such as is his 'way'.

Yesterday I came across this article about a new crop circle, a topic which I don't usually spend too much time looking into - don't know why, just don't....however, the timing of this croppie and my receiving the book is another of those 'hmmmm' moments:

Phoenix crop circle may predict end of the world

Crop circle experts believe the latest pattern to be discovered, a phoenix rising from the flames in Wiltshire, may give a warning about the end of the world.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01423/crop_1423732c.jpg

Published: 12:21PM BST 15 Jun 2009

The 400-foot design was discovered in a barley field in Yatesbury near Devizes Photo: M & Y PORTSMOUTH

The 400-foot design was discovered in a barley field in Yatesbury near Devizes and depicts the mythical phoenix reborn as it rises from the ashes.

Investigators claim more formations are referencing the possibility of a cataclysmic event occurring on December 21, 2012, which coincides with the end of the ancient Mayan calendar.

The Mayans believed civilisation exists within a series of earth cycles of 144,000 days each with the 13th expiring in December 2012, resulting in Armageddon.

Crop circle enthusiast Karen Alexander, from Gosport, Hants, said: "The phoenix is a mythical creature which symbolises rebirth and a new era in many cultures across the world.

"Within the crop circle community many believe the designs are constantly referring to December 21 and its aftermath.

"This could be interpreted as the human race or earth rising again after a monumental event.

"The patterns are becoming more intricate with every find and it is exciting to think how they are going to evolve by the time we get to 2012."

Recent crop circles have included giant jelly-fish and one image discovered in Wiltshire in June which experts dubbed the most 'mind boggling' they had ever come across.

The formation, measuring 150ft in diameter, is apparently a coded image representing the first 10 digits, 3.141592654, of pi.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5540634/Phoenix-crop-circle-may-predict-end-of-the-world.html

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My own research has linked Hermes/Mercury/Thoth (Ibis-headed 'god'), Djehuty; Teut, Tot, Tahuti etc etc with Quetzalcoatl and as I think I've already mentioned previously, Islam describes demonic entities as of 3 kinds:

"There are 3 types of Jinn; One type flies through the air, another type consists of snakes and dogs. A third is based in one place but travels about."

http://www.islamawareness.net/Jinn/jinn1.html

If you'd like to spend some time listening to: America's Assignment With Destiny in 17 parts, here's the book read by William Cooper with musical interludes to add to the drama!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdTzRaH0IA

I highly recommend the series, which should 'run on' on you tube but you'll have to listen carefully as there's a whole lot of info coming atcha.

"The Thirty-Seventh Spirit is Phenex (or Pheynix). He is a great Marquis, and appeareth like the Bird Phoenix, having the Voice of a Child. He singeth many sweet notes before the Exorcist, which he must not regard, but by-and-by he must bid him put on Human Shape. Then he will speak marvellously of all wonderful Sciences if required. He is a Poet, good and excellent. And he will be willing to perform thy requests. He hath hopes also to return to the Seventh Throne after 1,200 years more, as he said unto Solomon. He governeth 20 Legions of Spirits. And his Seal is this, which wear thou, etc."

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/images/seals/phenex.gif

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=314

fromthatshow

17-06-2009, 12:34 AM

But all it can ever be IS an attempt to overthrow God. Everything exists within God, so... how could something that IS God destroy God? It doesn't make any sense. Vain attempts they are!

sukyspook

17-06-2009, 12:53 AM

But all it can ever be IS an attempt to overthrow God. Everything exists within God, so... how could something that IS God destroy God? It doesn't make any sense. Vain attempts they are!

There's no denying that this IS a coup against God/The Creator for anyone who has thought long and hard about 'it all'.....Satan/Satanic mindset - evil, which is alive and well and living within those who serve him will do anything to try to achieve hell on Earth. I know it won't work - so do you Fromthatshow and I hope you have 'saved your soul' for want of a better phrase and are endeavouring to awaken other souls to that 'reality'....which is what I'm trying to do on this thread.

All is energy and "where thought goes, energy flows". 'They' have to trick us into creating their 'hell' and the agenda is currently in overdrive on every level of reality, spearheaded by their control of the lamestream media, the propaganda arm of Satan's 'kingdom on Earth'.

However, for every new negative 'news story', millions more are awakening daily because of the bizarre nature of events.

It's no good waiting around for someone to fly out of the sky and save us - as the corny phrase goes: "we are the ones we've been waiting for" - I'm sure if Jesus were to come back, he'd have wanted to have started the PEACEFUL rebellion ourselves!!

Most important is how we live in this 'realm' as I really believe it deeply affects whatever happens/comes next and it's not just about 'me' - it's about The Creation in its entirety...imo of course.

Anyone who serves the Satanic mindset/Satan needs to wake up to the fact that once they have outlived their usefulness they will be unceremoniously DUMPED as there is only one 'entity' who wishes to 'rule the world' and he doesn't intend to share the throne with anyone else, that includes the Rothschilds and their ilk.

mikel84

17-06-2009, 01:46 AM

lucifer doesnt exist

tyler

17-06-2009, 11:34 PM

Freeman is da man!!

I have been into him for some time now and have even corresponded with him via his My Space page.

I'm fascinated by his research into the masons and their symbols and architecture etc around the world.

Right, on to the next video!

sukyspook

19-06-2009, 09:56 PM

From Greg Evenson:

"The time for talk is over. Any further delays in implementing self-protecting plans for families, neighborhoods, adjacent farms and ranches are unwise, self-defeating, and potentially disastrous. Further enumeration of the historical failures and the successful plots against freedom, liberty, personal and national sovereignty are a waste of time. Everyone who already knows the reasons for our current state of emergency, are crystal clear as to their origins and the implications for all Republic loving individuals.

That is why I have made the decision to relinquish my weekly radio broadcast on Republic Broadcasting, "Voices from the Heartland" effective May 30th. The time consumed in preparing for that weekly event is now being put into relevant action in the field. I have accepted a number of speaking engagements beginning June 5th and running in Phase I through the middle of August. All of these plans assume one major concept. It is that we will somehow avoid a catastrophe within this nation that emanates from the banking fiasco, the death of the automotive industry, the collapse of the employment market, a nuclear confrontation with North Korea, or any number of other unthinkable possibilities, and all of those outcomes are still far from certain.

Resilient Americans, who have prepared for and are awaiting the other shoe's arrival upon their heads, are now grouping together in a final effort to gather all of the tactical information they can prior to the end game being fulfilled.

People can continue to complain, blame others, analyze ad nauseum, and not change a thing at this point. Others are preparing for campaigns to unseat a 20 term incumbent and spend the next 18 months working for nothing. Communism under the thin guise of socialism has arrived at our front door. We accepted all of the false, misleading, placating, tranquilizing, feely-good stupidity that the democrats and Barry Sotero offered us. What he was doing all along under the guise of a stimulus, was petting the puppy's head as he administered the euthanasia drugs.

Any further discussion about how we can use the courts to reverse absolutely mind-numbingly unconstitutional legislation is pointless. The courts are owned by the King and his henchmen. All efforts to convince local government that they must commit to republic building instead of community destruction through politically correct versions of state and national lap-dog plans sent forth from Washington, are useless. Our citizen driven national version of the family SUV has come to rest against the guard rail found at the end of the pavement. The trip is over folks, we are out of road. I wish I could tell you where you are going. If you don't know or don't have a map, it wouldn't do me much good to try to tell you anyway. One thing is for certain; from here you will walk the rest of the way. For many it will be to destination unknown. Most are on the way to the City of Despair, in the State of Confusion, located within the Nation of Disgrace. For others, the destination will not be pleasant nor a matter of choice. You get the picture. Those who, "take all of your belongings and climb into the truck," will weep in utter misery for the personal negligence that they brought upon themselves and their families. You will have paid the ultimate price.

So,………will you take the final moments God is giving you to step away from your "stupid zone" and do what you should have so long ago? Will you finally make some plans? Will you really sell off your unnecessary toys and purchase the absolutely necessary survival tools that will give you just a chance to make it through? Will you search out the ultimate truth of our predicament and the One who can give you peace, serenity and eternal life? Can you admit that putting a dictator in office was one of your very worst mistakes, and you will try to make amends by resisting him and his communist platform? Will you do all you can to convert your family and friends who also voted for him and others supporting him to work against him in every way possible? That may sting and burn to be told that, but it is far better than the amputation of your limbs that is coming if he continues to dismantle this nation and its last freedoms.

Editorials like these are expected to consume about 1500 words. This is half that. Like I said, the time for talk is over.

My training and experience in law enforcement and military tactics is extensive. You should know what I know, NOW! If you want me to come to your area, meet with your group, it works like this. Get 30-40 like minded together. Collect $25 from each. That covers my driving time, a few meals, some printed materials, CD's for each attendee and a Super 8. I drive so that I can have mobility and the tools I need to get out and back. So far, eleven groups have said yes, we will do that, it is worth it. Contact me at the e-mail address listed below. You can call me on my cell at 906-367-0505. The ones I have trained are grateful and far more ready than before. The choice is yours. God bless each one of you."

end

http://www.theheartlandusa.com/

Here's the latest mp3 from John Stadtmiller where I heard that most amazing paragraph highlighted in the article above whilst decorating earlier today - (groan) and which I highly recommend and listened to twice because it's so good:

National Intel 06/16/2009 Report: Guests: Bob Chapman and Robby Noel The Three Amigos John, Bob, and Robby discuss U.S. financial issues, precious metals, corrupt politics, and more (John refers to Washington DC as 'District of Criminals').

http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_06_16.MP3

....and then there's the highly irreverant and often foul-mouthed Deek Jackson and his FKN Newz WARNING - BAD LANGUAGE!:

http://main.fknnewz.com/blog/?p=771

In the words of Deek - "HAVE A NICE WEEKEND!!!" but I'll probably be back tomorrow as I can't think coherently just now.

ps - some way back in the thread I posted some info/videos about The Dajjal/the Antichrist - here's a great article which includes the same video and which is 'spot on' imo.

The Dajjal War on Humankind:

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/the-dajjal-war-on-humankind/

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"What history tells us? Who is ruling the world? An small island called Britain became the ruler of the world where sun never sets down on its empires and ruled the world for centuries (1st day like years), then suddenly the mighty British empire collapsed and emerged a new age of world rulers who are ruling the world now from USA (2nd day like months) , now we are witnessing downfall of the American Empire and the last age, the third day, is about to begin when Dajjal will come out in front and rule the world from Israel ( Throne of Solomon).

Do you think this is all coincidence? No. All of what is happening around us today is linked and planned for centuries and being covertly executed by secret societies. One thing to remember, the secret societies named as Freemasons and Illuminati, existing since the age of Pharaoh and the mastermind of this ‘New World Order’ system or simply the right hand of Dajjal, use cryptic symbolism to express their agenda. Actually they are not people of books (Jews or Christians). they are satan worshipper or pagan. It began with Jewish cabala sect and infiltrated the ordinary Jews and Christians. (See these videos for more info: Illuminati Exposed! & The Arrivals Series )"

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Do watch both 4 x hour parts of Nassim Haramein's videos - part 2 talks at length about Jerusalem; The Ark; Ethiopia; Knights Templar; similarties to Stargate SG1 etc etc and is thoroughly enjoyable and very informative/though provoking - I KNOW THEY'RE LONG BUT WORTH IT IMO:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&ei=Bew7SrPwMJaJ-Ab3wc2tCg&q=nassim+haramein

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1895475242307393956&ei=Bew7SrPwMJaJ-Ab3wc2tCg&q=nassim+haramein

and following on from Nassim about wormholes/dark matter etc - here are 3 videos then go on to further conversations with Jack Sarfatti:

"We discuss the theoretical and physical implications of Dr. Jack Sarfatti's latest research into the origins and nature of gravity, dark matter and dark energy. Dr. Sarfatti's research has potentially great significance for new forms of energy production and exotic propulsion, applicable to star travel."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_1tNe5hDe8&feature=PlayList&p=12AA366AD34BE162&index=0&playnext=1

sukyspook

20-06-2009, 11:52 PM

Tim Rifat on Rense from Friday 19th June 09 - on Iran - The Green "Revolution" and other manipulations of humanity:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_061909_hr1.mp3

...and here's a great recent mp3 from Red Ice which I only heard today - listened twice as it's right up my 'ley line'!:

Cort Lindahl - Geomantic Information Systems
June 11, 2009
We have Cort Lindahl with us to talk about Geomancy and Thomas Jefferson's use of Geomancy and Ley Lines to form a Township Grid. Cort is behind the website survivalcell.blogspot.com. We talk about Occult Geography and Cartography. Topics Discussed: The Occult Street Plan of Chico in California, the Hexagon of Baalbek, Thomas Jefferson's Occult Township Grid, Bohemian Grove, Williamsburg in Virginia, The Rockefeller Array, Georgia Guide Stones, Burning Man, International Peace Garden, Ley Lines, Occult Rituals, Charles Mason, Lisbon Line, The Mason Dixon Line and much more.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/06jun/RIR-090611-clindahl.mp3

I think it was on this thread that I posted some info by 'Protestant Separatist' on 'Magic Squares' and the occult design of Indianopolis - from 2006 - but it ties in with the Red Ice mp3:

F/M's Secret Foundations -WARNING, the sound's a bit hit and miss but worth the effort to listen!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldKa47-RFEc&feature=channel_page

tyler

21-06-2009, 07:56 AM

tyler

21-06-2009, 09:42 AM

Oh boy! Tim Rifat is so spot on with everything he says.

Our fellow countrymen are all mad. Insane! We are surrounded by madness.

sukyspook

24-06-2009, 11:58 AM

Thanks Suki.
I realy do enjoy the stuff you are posting. We are both on the same ley length!
I'm busy filming in Oxfordshire at the mo but when I get a chance I sit down and listen to one of your MP3s and am even managing to listen to more of Tiny Tim, the physicist Nassim Haraheim?

Hi Tyler and anyone popping in!!

Glad you are enjoying the ride!!! Me too - and I hope the filming's going well. The weather has taken a turn for the better and doesn't it feel fantastic!! I'll be in Cropredy, Oxon in August hopefully....and I believe Richard Thompson (see below) will be appearing there at the festival.

Here's the latest from Tim Rifat - I missed it 'live' this morning so haven't heard it myself yet but thankfully it's already up in the members archives (thanks to all concerned).

June 23 09 - Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat, "Illuminati Occult Nemesis" (actual title of mp3)

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_062309_hr1.mp3

I did, however, catch 2/3 of this mp3 this morning from Jeff with Acharya S who wrote The Christ Conspiracy - worth a listen if you've got 50 minutes or so:

Hour 2 - Acharya S Has - ZEITGEIST's Religion Part Been Refuted? Christ In Egypt

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_062309_hr2.mp3

and just because I caught some interesting snippets, here's hour 3 from Jeff:

Hour 3 - Frosty Wooldridge - Too Late For America?

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_062309_hr3.mp3

I've been explaining to my brother (over from Oz) about UCC aka the 'law of water'/commerce. If you haven't seen The Occult World of Commerce, here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1697805906900297328&ei=bOZBSoqUOoXW-Aah6OSvBw&q=the+occult+world+of+commerce

Yesterday my brother and I was talking about Richard Thompson who I listened to a lot many years ago......then this morning the lyrics to 'Pharaoh' by Richard were posted upon www.fourwinds10.com which often contains some bizarre stuff even for me but also is a good resource to keep an eye on world events. Here are the lyrics with vid link to 'The Pharoah':

June 23, 2009

Pharaoh he sits in his tower of steel

The dogs of money all at his heel

Magicians cry "Oh truth! Oh real!"

We're all working for the Pharaoh

A thousand eyes, a thousand ears

He feeds us all, he feeds our fears

Don't stir in your sleep tonight, my dears

We're all working for the Pharaoh

It's Egypt land, Egypt land

We're all living in Egypt land

Tell me, brother, don't you understand

We're all working for the Pharaoh

Hidden from the eye of chance

The men of shadow dance a dance

We're all struck into a trance

We're all working for the Pharaoh

The idols rise into the sky

Pyramids soar, Sphinxes lie

Head of dog, Osiris eye

We're all working for the Pharaoh

And it's Egypt land, Egypt land

We're all living in Egypt land

Tell me, brother, don't you understand

We're all working for the Pharaoh

I dig a ditch, I shape a stone

Another battlement for his throne

Another day on earth is flown

We're all working for the Pharaoh

Call it England, you call it Spain

Egypt rules with a whip and chain

Moses free my people again

We're all working for the Pharaoh

And it's Egypt land, Egypt land

We're all living in Egypt land

Tell me, brother, don't you understand

We're all working for the Pharaoh

Pharaoh he sits in his tower of steel

Around his feet the princes kneel

Far beneath we shoulder the wheel

We're all working for the Pharaoh

VIEW VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLceCzKvac8

I had also been explaining what I term 'Divine synchronicity'....

Then I came across this 'series' for want of a better word which I recommend and contains some info I need to help my own research:

I JUST NOTICED THIS IS ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED ON ANOTHER THREAD:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1062160

http://watchman33.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/the-lucifer-project-raising-antichrist-part-v/

So much is happening so keep 'em peeled!! We have to keep ahead of the game to resist their devious traps...Iran, that means you too!!!

Love to all
Suke

sukyspook

25-06-2009, 08:16 PM

Well, it was a cracker of an mp3 from Jeff Rense and Tim....if you haven't already seen Nassim Haramein's videos linked earlier - it links in with what Tim talks about regarding 'dark matter' and other dimensions.

Here's last night's mp3 from Jeff with Ben Fulford - Ben says all the right things but we must remain vigilant and remember that in this 'realm' (and imo fwiw) what we are all being affected by is a spiritual battle for our very souls and as Neo said in The Matrix: "black is white and white is black":

June 24 09 Rense w Ben Fulford – War on Illuminati

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_062409_hr3.mp3

I realise I've already posted an image and info regarding the UK "National Forces Arboretum" in Alrewas, Staffordshire but I can't post it enough everywhere I go - especially as the Rothschild Supreme Court building is featured on this site today:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2501222670060504400TIrrVF_fs.jpg

"Sinister Sites"
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

An 'arboretum' can also be described as a 'grove'. Groves are where pagan sex and sacrificial rituals are carried out as in Bohemian Grove courtesy of Alex Jones (ya gotta love him whoever he works for):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxoF3dk8arQ

...and if you missed it - here's an image and webpage for where the UK troops are 'remembered' and their 'sacrifice' and names are dedicated to.....?? (answers on a postcard to: - lol):

http://www.thenma.org.uk/uploads/images/AFMfromNMA_12071.jpg

http://www.thenma.org.uk/content/Armed-Forces-Memorial-1191.shtml

I'm currently watching this again:

Bill Schnoebelen, The Light Behind Masonry:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2748614967389038944&ei=oFlDSqjAMYPC-AaS59T9Bg&q=the+light+behind+masonry

...and reading, amongst many other things - "Illustrations of Masonry" by Captain William Morgan, after whom the rum was named - who was murdered (allegedly) - ON 911!!! - because he exposed too many 'secrets'...:

snip

"In the absence of the author, or rather compiler of the following work, who was kidnapped and carried away from the village of Batavia, on the 11th day of September, 1826, by a number of Freemasons, it devolves upon the publisher to attempt to set forth some of the leading views that governed those who embarked in the undertaking."

snip

http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/captmorgansfreemasonry1.htm

;)

sukyspook

30-06-2009, 03:54 PM

Here's an excellent mp3 from the equally excellent John Stadtmiller at Republic Broadcasting with Dr Norman D Livergood who I discovered in 2003 when I finally and fully 'awoke' to how humanity has been HAD. Listen carefully to John's introduction of Dr Livergood and his huge list of qualifications - he was once heavily involved in 'the system' and hence knows about it from both 'sides':

MONDAY, JUNE 22, 2009

Hour 1:
Guest: Dr. Norman D. Livergood
Dr. Livergood joins us today to discuss various subjects in government, economics,facts, and more...

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Stadtmiller/2009/06/Stadtmiller_1_062209_160000.mp3

Hour 2:
Open Lines, Continuing discussion on previous subjects many comments from the listeners.

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Stadtmiller/2009/06/Stadtmiller_2_062209_170000.mp3

This is the article: The Demonic Cabal which is mentioned in the mp3:

http://www.hermes-press.com/cabal_index.htm

main page:

http://www.hermes-press.com/

Here are 3 mp3's which whilst not so "professional" in the accepted sense contain very many nuggets of info you won't hear on lamestream radio - an alternative's "alternative" if you will!:

Shaking A Spear
June 25: Bomb test on the moon! and much more:

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1161/13086/shaking_a_spear_2009-06j-25.mp3

Conspiracy Cafe
June 25: Operation Blackjack (and lots more)

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13072/conspiracy_cafe_2009-06j-25_.mp3

Cloak Shock Talk
June 25: Morgan Reynolds, Sherman Skolnick etc

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13071/shock_talk_2009-06j-25.mp3

It's my belief that we're 'prisoners/slaves' in time and space as 'hidden' in plain sight as the cross of Christianity/St George (geo means 'of the earth') etc etc and the only way we'll change the world for the better is if we get down from our (metaphorical) crosses and live more naturally and in tune with the cycles of the Universe and with nature - both manifestations of 'The Creator' whatever he/she/it might ultimately be and NOT in 'the ways' of the 'architect' of this realm/dimension/time/space we are constantly manipulated to perpetuate by 'you know who'...

I love this talk about the Mayan Calendar which amongst other things, exposes the Gregorian Calendar which imo is fundamental to 'their' control of all our lives:

Ian Xel Lundgold.....The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&ei=15hHSobpKtqd-AacveCWDQ&q=Ian+Lundgold

Coming soon: Tim Rifat on Rense tonight, Tuesday 30th June 2009. I'll post the mp3 asa I can.

tyler

01-07-2009, 03:01 AM

sukyspook

03-07-2009, 11:17 AM

Wooeeeee Suki! So much to read and listen to. Amazing stuff. We are SO much on the same wavelength. We must meetup for a chat though I suspect I would be doing all the listening.
Two in the morning here in London on a hot summers night.

Talk about hot summer nights - sheesh!! I never thought I'd be so glad to see so much rain this morning - and finally the air is cooler. I just hope it doesn't last for days....and days....and days....

Here's the latest from Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat which continues with the failed coup in Iran amongst other things:

June 30 09 - Jeff with guest Tim Rifat:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_063009_hr1.mp3

On 1st July Jeff's guests included Charlotte Iserbyt who wrote the book: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" which can be read online at:

www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

If you haven't heard of Charlotte, here she is in one of my all time fave vids to give you an idea of what the mp3's about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=DDyDtYy2I0M

July 1 09 Rense w C Iserbyt – Most Americans Dumber by the Day:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_070109_hr1.mp3

Keep 'em peeled!

lizzy

04-07-2009, 02:10 PM

tyler

04-07-2009, 06:48 PM

Hi Suki, I've been putting Charlotte everywhere whenever I find an excuse for the past few months. I'm well aquainted with her.
Just finished off a tub of Haagan Daz Belgian Chocolate while I listened to the two Canadians on Conspiracy Cafe. They are cool dudes. Very funny.
I must find a way of putting up all these MP3 talks on my facebook page.
Are you on Facebook? Send me an add.

tyler

04-07-2009, 06:50 PM

Hi Liz, having a lazy sunny afternoon a la the Kinks here in London!
Suki is keeping me well supploed with material. Loving it.

When will the sheep wake up?

tyler

04-07-2009, 06:51 PM

Facebook anyone? :)

sukyspook

06-07-2009, 02:02 PM

hi suks , am listening to..http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jun2009/7vj49e/rense_063009_hr1.mp3

right now, I like Rifat. ;)......." keep wearing your red wrist band and sell your soul to satan".......the NWO is underpinned by a negative Kabbala.

hi tyler, hope all is well ;)

Hi Lizzy - glad you 'get' what Tim's saying and enjoy listening to him and that you're still checking in. I'm finding I need to spend more and more time in a particular mental 'zone' which means I've backed off a lot - A LOT - from 'normal' things in my life. As you'll see below with today's links, usually when I've 'backed off' for a few days, something I'm looking for 'shows up'!!....and I 'know' you 'know' what I mean lol!! ;)

Hi Suki, I've been putting Charlotte everywhere whenever I find an excuse for the past few months. I'm well aquainted with her.
Just finished off a tub of Haagan Daz Belgian Chocolate while I listened to the two Canadians on Conspiracy Cafe. They are cool dudes. Very funny.
I must find a way of putting up all these MP3 talks on my facebook page.
Are you on Facebook? Send me an add.

Hi Tyler - I've been posting that video from Charlotte up everywhere I can for quite some time too. I must have missed this post from you which I only saw this morning when I logged in - yes I enjoy Conspracy Cafe a lot, along with Cloak's 'Shocktalk' with Lenny and Mrs Steele as there are some VERY important snippets in there imo. Shame that the extensive Cloak and Dagger archives of mp3's/videos and articles aren't available these days as there are some corkers there too. I wish they'd solve their server issues as I'd love to give you a link to the archives.
You can still read the late, great 'judgebuster' Sherman Skolnick's extensive articles archives at:
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/

Sherman's book title "Ahead of the Parade" pretty much says that he really WAS ahead of many who are only just exposing what he wrote about years ago.

Hi Liz, having a lazy sunny afternoon a la the Kinks here in London!
Suki is keeping me well supploed with material. Loving it.

When will the sheep wake up?

I am behind aren't I lol!! Sorry Tyler, not ignoring you, just been too wrapped up in vids/mp3's and mundane domestic chores - yawn....

Facebook anyone? :)

I have a facebook page but I only use it to communicate with my son when he's 'on the road'!!

You asked a post ago when will the sheople wake up...

The following video from Lyndon Larouche is 3hrs 12 mins long and has taken me a several short sessions to get through. However, it's well worth anyone's time who is eager to learn what's wrong with the world and what we can do to solve it.

Lyndon believes that the root of the problem is still the British Empire rather than the Z's or the J's etc....I believe it is all of the above + the many 'think tanks' (tax free scams) and 'secret societies' or 'societies with secrets' ;) which enable the ultimate 'would be' controller/s to continue this spiritual and physical coup against all of humanity (imo of course).

I really hope you manage to watch/or at least listen to the entire broadcast as whilst I don't agree with absolutely everything, there are many points raised which are undeniable and it's good to hear someone like Lyndon voice those points and offer his solutions:

"sombody's got to start telling the truth, not polite lies"

IMO the cause of humanity's collective problems lie firmly within all individuals who do not have the best interests of humanity at the heart of their actions and intent...

http://asx.ljcentral.net/wms/larpac/2009/090627_webcast_en_384kb.asx

Larouche main site: www.larouchepac.com

...and then I happened upon this this morning from Red Ice which has been relatively quiet since that conference at the end of May at Heathrow...

Red Ice Adrian Gilbert on The Invisible College

I use Adrian's book The Orion Conspiracy regularly for reference and whilst I enjoy what Adrian has to say I believe I recently read he is a Mason and for me personally, that's somewhat of a problem.....especially as on Adrian's site where the 'blazing star' Sirius and the arch, another symbol of Masonry are prominently displayed....
Adrian also talks of 'energies' from Orion and the other planets in our system - my ongoing and very current research is in search of all things 'Sirian' and the 'Great White Lodge' which Masons believe is on Sirius at the top of the 'staircase'...

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/TBs/1emulationUGLE.jpg

However, all that being said, the video is well worth a watch as it's a kind of 'spiritual version' of Lyndon Larouche's take on our physical predicament:

http://www.redicecreations.com/members/extra/avii/agilbert/index.php

Darn it - I just checked that link and I can't post it as it's from the members section.....the video might show up somewhere else so I'll keep 'em peeled and post if it surfaces, sorry.

Instead, here's an introductory video freely available from Adrian's Invisible College website which I haven't yet watched but should give a similar intro to the project - bear in mind the symbolism on www.theinvisiblecollege.net and imo - proceed with caution!!!:

http://www.theinvisiblecollege.net/invisible_college_tv_programme_1.htm

IMO - the keeping of secrets is for a relative few to obtain and retain advantage and consequently power and control over the many...

Finally, here are the current mp3's from Cloak/Shocktalk and Conspracy Cafe:

July 2: LENNY BLOOM & MRS. STEELE Celebrated a Successful Year Broadcasting their Internet Radio Program SHOCK TALK WITH BLOOM AND STEELE - CIVILIAN NEWS FOR THE MASSES

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13166/shock_talk_2009-07j-02.mp3

July 2 09 - Conspiracy Cafe with George Freud "Never Say Neverland"

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13167/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-02.mp3

Love and peace brothers and sisters! :)

tyler

06-07-2009, 06:49 PM

turquoisefire777

07-07-2009, 03:01 AM

lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g464JLFX0Ds

bendoon

07-07-2009, 03:25 AM

veritasvoice

07-07-2009, 06:15 PM

At the end of the day everyone will have to choose Good (God) or Satan (Evil) in the coming years, wether you actually believe there is a God/Satan or not makes no difference, the principle is the same. Some people have already chosen and the ones who have chosen evil should be fairly obvious to most on here. As time goes by the ones who have chosen evil will do everything in their power to lure you into the same fate as them, their main tool is deception and the reward to those who "overcome" the deception will be immense.

I must admit, I was skeptical about this a while ago, as I'm not a very religious person - I've always seen that religion is something humans made, and that humans misuse and abuse religious law all the time in order to dominate, control and manipulate others.

Now, after some independent research, I'm under the impression that what we have is a group of people that have been manipulating world events in order to fulfill prophecy.

The metaphysical side of this is very difficult to reconcile with the political/technological side, given that mainstream science doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the paranormal; and that mainstream views of history and archaeology are fundamentally flawed in more than one regard. I think the creationists and the evolutionists are propping up a false paradigm, and that we (homo sapiens) have been here on Earth for a LOT longer than 40,000 years.

sukyspook

08-07-2009, 11:18 AM

Lots there to be getting on with. Thanks, Suke.

I am aquainted with laRouche and like you, don't agree with most of what he says though there is a lot to ponder there.

Me too, getting away from the mainstream of society. I can't bear to be around too many sheep at the moment. Having a bit of a crisis regarding people in general. Just a few minutes ago showed the whole of the video..."Ripple Effect" about the London tube bombings to a friend. He was fascinated but if he changes much in his life, I will be surprised. At least he understands me a bit better. Spread the word!

Tonight I'm re-visiting a place I used to hang out at 20 years ago. very new age talks and too much Louise hay stuff for my liking but I want to be among some fairly like minded people tonight. Alternatives at St. james in Piccadilly. Some music on tonight.
http://www.alternatives.org.uk/Site/Default.aspx

Careful Tyler - Yehuda Berg is speaking at Alternatives next week - I have his book on Kabbalah and doesn't it sound wonderful lolol!! (NOT!)

lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g464JLFX0Ds

How amazing Turquoisefire, that there are so many images of 'Lucifer' - and how many people are 'into' this kind of genre/culture. Nice video, kudos to you! I wish I could make vids too - I just won't spend the time learning....

At the end of the day everyone will have to choose Good (God) or Satan (Evil) in the coming years, wether you actually believe there is a God/Satan or not makes no difference, the principle is the same. Some people have already chosen and the ones who have chosen evil should be fairly obvious to most on here. As time goes by the ones who have chosen evil will do everything in their power to lure you into the same fate as them, their main tool is deception and the reward to those who "overcome" the deception will be immense.

Yes Bendoon, I've 'chosen' and try to live appropriately. This thread, for me anyway, has become a collection of resources which confirm the reality of a spiritual and ergo physical agenda for the enthronement of Satan/Lucifer/Apollyon/Osiris/Nimrod and many other 'infernal' names as the 'king of the world'. As is written in The Bible:

Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."

Confirmation of our predicament:

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

I must admit, I was skeptical about this a while ago, as I'm not a very religious person - I've always seen that religion is something humans made, and that humans misuse and abuse religious law all the time in order to dominate, control and manipulate others.

Now, after some independent research, I'm under the impression that what we have is a group of people that have been manipulating world events in order to fulfill prophecy. **

The metaphysical side of this is very difficult to reconcile with the political/technological side, given that mainstream science doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the paranormal; and that mainstream views of history and archaeology are fundamentally flawed in more than one regard. I think the creationists and the evolutionists are propping up a false paradigm, and that we (homo sapiens) have been here on Earth for a LOT longer than 40,000 years.

** Indeed Veritas, indeed and there should be enough info on this thread - if people are prepared to watch/listen and read, to confirm your/my/our ideas on 'the great conspiracy' - that's no longer 'conspiracy', nay, it never was imo.

After a relatively quiet week on the info front (for me anyway), yesterday saw a veritable torrent of 'on topic' articles and mp3's manifesting into my life - that's the best way I can describe such an influx.....

It kind of began with this image (no 3) late on Monday night on lamestream tv here in the UK:

Obamanation meets another marionette, Medvedev in Russia - CHECK OUT THE GOLDEN 'ALL SEEING EYE' ON THE RIGHT:

http://nachofoto.com/gallery/Obama_and_Medvedev_Meet_in_Moscow_July_2009-1

Then I began to listen to 2 x mp3's from Steve Quayle who has a reputation of being somewhat 'dramatic' but who often has great guests on his soon-to-be-ended show.
These mp3's were sent to me by the guy who runs a yahoo group I'm a member of for Gary 'The Spaceman' Bell where I download 'Space's' show each Sunday. However, for the last 2 Saturdays there have been repeats posted as Space must be taking a break. Instead, the Quayle/Horn mp3's were posted - if they hadn't been substituted I might not have come across them for quite some time - that's how this 'ride' works lol!!:

Enjoy! The Return of Antichrist/Lucifer/Satan/Apollyon/Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod etc etc

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_june_30_2009_hour_1.mp3

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_june_30_2009_hour_2.mp3

These are the links to the draft of Tom Horn's book "Apollyon Rising" which he talks to Steve about:

Apollyon Rising
Pts 1 – 3 http://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html
Pts 4-12 http://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2009_06_01_archive.html
P13 http://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2009/07/part-thirteenread-it-before-it-is.html

........and this is the video (p1) of which Tom talks towards the end of p2 - even if you're a non-church goer or not 'religious' (like me), I recommend listening to what Father O'Connor has to say as it embraces political/economic and ethical issues amongst other things:

Father John O’Connor sermon p1:
http://www.truveo.com/The-Reign-Of-The-Antichrist-Part-1-of-4-198788/id/140695436

Then I went back to PID archives to listen to this i/v which is mentioned in Steve/Tom's mp3's along exactly the same lines exposing the same agenda:

http://media.libsyn.com/media/pidradio/pidradio070617.mp3

P.I.D. Radio 6/17/07: Peter Goodgame — Osiris the Antichrist
We pull another fascinating interview with researcher and author Peter Goodgame, this one from January of 2006. Peter’s research builds on his study of Bible prophecy and occult groups and leads him to believe that he’s identified the seven kings in the book of Revelation — and the Antichrist.To read Peter’s research, check out his free online e-book The Giza Discovery. He’s added to it since our interview, so some of the information and study is news.
Show links:
• Peter Goodgame’s website, Red Moon Rising
• Red Moon Rising by Peter D. Goodgame
• The Giza Discovery by Peter D. Goodgame
• “The Divine Council and the Kabbalah” by Peter D. Goodgame
• “Domination by Deception” by Peter D. Goodgame (Saturn = Enki = Satan)

http://www.pidradio.com/

I have to fly for now - bring in onnnnnn!!

Suke
;)

turquoisefire777

08-07-2009, 10:07 PM

How amazing Turquoisefire, that there are so many images of 'Lucifer' - and how many people are 'into' this kind of genre/culture. Nice video, kudos to you! I wish I could make vids too - I just won't spend the time learning....

thanks for the audio links, they are brilliant.

bendoon

08-07-2009, 10:18 PM

An interesting read here from someone who was an atheist till recently.

http://www.rense.com/general86/whopr.htm

tyler

09-07-2009, 12:39 AM

Welcome to our little corner of the forum, Bendoon.
That was an interesting article.

bendoon

09-07-2009, 12:42 AM

Welcome to our little corner of the forum, Bendoon.
That was an interesting article.

I am waiting for part 2

I don't agree with it entirely but its more or less in line with my own thinking.

sukyspook

10-07-2009, 10:20 AM

Treatsville!! I've tried to listen twice to the latest Jeff Rense/Tim Rifat mp3 but too many peeps around and interruptions yesterday. I'm looking forward to an early morning Saturday-fest of Rifat/Horn and Goodgame! (sounds a bit kinky lol).
If you haven't yet listened to the Quayle/Horn mp3's - I highly recommend them too - and Peter Goodgame/PID as well:

repost:
"For those of you who have already listened to the above show and need your "conspiracy fix" I have listed a special 2 hour program from Steve Quayle who unfortunately has decided to stop his radio shows last week. I actually find this special program (deals in the end times) more informative than many AVFS shows, so I highly recommend you listen to them and pass them along to your friends."

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_june_30_2009_hour_1.mp3

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_june_30_2009_hour_2.mp3

THE TREAT!

Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat 8th July 2009 - enjoy!:

Britain’s Broken Occult War Machine

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_070809_hr1.mp3

Has anyone been watching the Torchwood series this week? I wouldn't normally but I'm glad I did. For starters, the emergency team surrounding the PM is called 'Cobra' as is the 'real' team surrounding Gordon (groan) Brown....and there was a line in it when 'The 456' (the green slimey aliebums) were demanding a supply of children -10% of the world's population (called 'units') by the 'Cobra' team - which 'The 456' appear to keep tethered to machinery, presumably to harness the 'energy' of the children...woaaahhhh!!
Also, 'Captain Jack' is immortal and appears to be a kind of 'St Germain' type of figure and is like he did/does(?) keeps popping up everywhere...
(Q: is St Germain yet another 'personification' of Lucifer??).

It's the last part tonight when Torchwood overrule the 'guvmint' who are negotiating with these intergalactic 'terrsts' and try to defeat 'The 456' thus hopefully putting an end to their exploitation of our children.

How I wish that the ongoing, generational exploitation of the entire human race could be ended....but that's for each one of us to realise and 'live' into reality (imo of course).

Love and peace to all

Sook
;)

cruise4

10-07-2009, 10:56 AM

Perhaps there is no beating good and no beating evil, because both sides are willingly chosen. The point is the battle and the battleground reflects this. There is only ending it. Sooner the better.

sukyspook

11-07-2009, 12:38 PM

I am waiting for part 2

I don't agree with it entirely but its more or less in line with my own thinking.

Here's part 2 Bendoon which went up yesterday at Rense - I'd read the other articles from Philip Jones which are available in Jeff's archives:

Who Rules the World p2
The Origin Of Evil: Ancient Mythology Or Occult Reality?
By Philip Jones
7-9-9

http://www.rense.com/general86/whorules2.htm

Philip Jones archive:

http://www.rense.com/Datapages/phjonesdat.htm

Perhaps there is no beating good and no beating evil, because both sides are willingly chosen. The point is the battle and the battleground reflects this. There is only ending it. Sooner the better.

It's my own personal belief that the domination by those with evil intent on this planet can only be ended initially within the hearts of each individual then by the 'collective' of that 'right thinking/acting/living' mindset.

The 'evil mindset' currently controls everything down to the 'national curriculum' in our schools and so with programmes like 'DARE' which imo are meant to subjugate to create degeneracy rather than to educate to create sovereignty of the individual.

Our children are deliberately targeted by the luciferian/satanic agenda and we won't be able to really inform our children to humanity's satanic predicament and the spiritual solution until we remove such evil programmes as DARE from our schools - unless you are a parent like me who has a 'no holes barred' approach to passing on and hence hopefully informing my children of our plight.

I'm am thought of as 'mad' by some of my daughters friends who still accept vaccines and swine flu propaganda etc as if the guvmint had our 'best interests' at heart.

We all do what we believe is 'right' but we can only do this only when we have investigated all the possibilities and scenarios that are out to 'get us' or 'help us'....and it all begins within.

WARNING - LONG POST AHEAD - sorry!

I wanted to post this as (if we didn’t know already) we need to know just how extensive the satanic/luciferian/spiritual attack is upon us and how vulnerable spiritually unawakened minds are to its influence.

I was reading this article at the excellent ‘vigilant citizen’ site about the song/vid by Korn – ‘Thoughtless’:

Article: Korn, Thoughtless, Selling Satanism to Suburban Kids

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1308

Here’s the image which I didn’t ‘see’ first time around (surprise, surprise!):

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/micstand.jpg

The image is remarkably similar to another that’s featured in the ‘Workings of Evil’ video about demonic possession and Rihanna’s ‘Umbrella’ song. The image appears in ‘Umbrella’ and is also featured on the ‘Workings’ DVD cover – but you don’t HAVE to buy the DVD as the video is still available online below the image (thank you Lenon):

http://www.lenonhonorfilms.com/sitebuilder/images/twoe_halfcover-222x287.jpg

The Workings of Evil by Lenon Honor:

http://www.lenonhonorfilms.com/TheWorkingsOfEvilPart1.html

If you haven’t seen ‘Workings’, I highly recommend it but if you have, the ‘entity’ image appears subliminally for the first time around: 14’ 00”.

I’ve just noticed the ‘related links’ at the bottom of the article – and Rihanna’s other song ‘Disturbia’ is mentioned there as is ‘Umbrella’.

Remember Madonna’s ‘Frozen’:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SDMCLN5oM

“You’re frozen when your heart’s not open…..” to what though?
“Give yourself to me…you hold the key…”

(Case almost closed imo – it’s also about demonic possession to assist with material success – Suke)

Book - "The World of the Jinn and Devils", p. 7

Ibn Abdul Barr said, "The jinn, according to the scholars of the language, are of different types:
1. If one is mentioning the jinn purely of themselves, the are called jinni.*
2. If one is mentioning the jinn that live among mankind, they are called aamar whose plural is amaar.
3. If one is mentioning the ones that antagonize the young, they are called arwaah.
4. If one is mentioning the evil ones that antagonize humans they are called shaitan for the singular [and shayateen for plural].
5. If they cause even more harm and become strong, they are called afreet."**

*Notice the similar sound between jinni and english's "genie". TV and other media have twisted the concept of jinn; however, it is interesting to note its origin is from Islam.

"I Dream of Jeannie" is a TV show based around a Genie (jinni, plural of jinn). In this show, Jeannie, the genie, frequently was given a request and the requestor never quite got what was requested as she was always creating unintentional mischief. However we understand that the shaitan among the jinn antagonize humans, not that they are kind beings who accidentally mess up on occasion. Those who seek aid (such as asking for favors or making request) from the jinni will find deception and a twisted type of aid that doesn't really meet the requestor's original request, but that satisfies the shaytaanic jinn's desire for evil.

snip

‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.”

Snip

This site is well worth a read if you’re interested in how Islam views Jinn/Shaytan which it takes VERY seriously (and so should we imo) - Suke

http://www.islamawareness.net/Jinn/jinn.html

….and from that site:

Every human has a partner Jinn

Hadith - Sahih Muslim 6757, Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, similar narration 6759 by 'Aisha, r.a.
Allah's Apostle said: There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Apostle with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good.

Snip

So the ‘entities’ that Madonna, Rihanna and the possessed character from the Korn vids have posssibly chosen to work with is their ‘inner jinni’ if you will, which I believe can be described as the EGO or the direct workings of said EGO as opposed to going to the Highest Spiritual Authority ie God The Creator of Everything by placing themselves in His care ie abandoning the Ego and living as in Ephesians 6 with the “whole armour of God”….this is how I perceive and understand the battle and the choice….

Ephesians 6

1Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

2Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

3That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

4And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

5Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

6Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

7With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:

8Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

9And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=56&chapter=6&version=9

Finally (sorry, didn’t mean this to go on so much…..), here’s a good i/v from Jeff Rense with Don Nicoloff – until it gets to the part where Don talks about ‘off planet help’ which I am interested in but have no firm views about as I’ve read about so many ‘off-planet’ entities that I couldn’t possibly say which are ‘good’ and which are ‘evil’ but I post this as you might enjoy it as it’s ‘on topic’:

July 8 09 Rense w Don Nicoloff – America Under Siege

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_070709_hr2.mp3

Sorry, this wasn’t meant to be a ‘sermon’ – it’s just that I see the fundamental battle as spiritual after which comes events in the ‘physical’ - as always, imo anyway! - and I don't go to church nor do I have much respect for so called 'religion'. The quotes from Ephesians, imo, explains the spiritual battle/solution.

Love ‘n peace
Suke

tyler

11-07-2009, 09:59 PM

Well Suke, I listened to the Don Nicoloff interview and he dangled some juicy tidbits but said nothing concrete. He began by saying he knew who Obama's real father was but we never foumd out!

The destruction of several American cities has been discussed before but there was no real proof forthcoming and then he said he was in touch or received a phone call from some intergalactic personage and that was when I began to doze off!
Maybe all will be revealed in the next interview.

Thanks for all of that. How can I put some of these Rense interviews on my Facebook page? How do uou lift them from Rense? Where are they in the Rense page?

octopusrex

12-07-2009, 12:10 AM

Ufff..... :rolleyes:

Lucifer = St. Germain, Venus, Prometheus... Do you really want me to list all 108 principal names?

You people really ARE ignorant.

tyler

12-07-2009, 12:27 AM

Go away, you nasty person.

bendoon

12-07-2009, 12:29 AM

Ufff..... :rolleyes:

Lucifer = St. Germain, Venus, Prometheus... Do you really want me to list all 108 principal names?

You people really ARE ignorant.

We know what we mean by Lucifer, we aren't really interested what other people mean by the name, its not really relevant.

For instance if me and the gf call our dog an elephant it don't matter wether its the correct term or not, we know what we are referring to.

novymir

12-07-2009, 01:08 AM

bendoon

12-07-2009, 01:23 AM

Wrong. False choices. I choose neither.
I choose not to be bound by limits imposed by a disturbed mind.
Duality/polarity is a game that is fixed--- when you play the game, you are bound by the rules.
That is the real deception. And that is what truely must be overcome.

Without duality there would be

..................nothing

siphon880di

12-07-2009, 01:27 AM

Without duality there would be..................nothing

That's just an analogy. It's the same saying that without air, there would be no life. But then there are anaerobic bacteria that lives in areas where there is no oxygen.

bendoon

12-07-2009, 01:32 AM

That's just an analogy. It's the same saying that without air, there would be no life. But then there are anaerobic bacteria that lives in areas where there is no oxygen.

How would you know what Joy was if you had never been sad ?

What stops someone falling off of Australia ?

Everything has its opposite or the world just wouldn't work.

novymir

12-07-2009, 02:05 AM

Without duality there would be

..................nothing

Your imagination is too limited.
There is TRUTH:
That which does not conflict with the Creative Spirit within of LOVE-FORGIVENESS-LIFE=TRUTH.

There is no polar opposite, only denial and rejection. Those that deny are bound to false-identity, they know not what they do because they know not what they Truely are. This condition came about because of Error, Fear, Trauma. Experienced. False-identity adopted. The experiencer became disorientated and lost touch with True Self.
Polarity/duality is a "creation"/corruption of/by the "Demiurge".

bendoon

12-07-2009, 02:15 AM

Polarity/duality is a "creation"/corruption of/by the "Demiurge".

You could be right in that last sentence but you probably wouldn't know why (no offence intended).

But for the time being we are constrained in this physical realm, where duality is a fact.

novymir

12-07-2009, 02:34 AM

You could be right in that last sentence but you probably wouldn't know why (no offence intended).

But for the time being we are constrained in this physical realm, where duality is a fact.

I know why.

There are no real "facts", "facts" change with the wind, facts are a product of limitation. This world is based on false-facts.
We do not have to play by those rules. They conflict with TRUTH. True Self Knows, we've been fooled into accepting a LIE of Life. I reject the lies of this world, I will not be bound to them. This polarized, predatory/parasitic paradigm will fade out of our existence.
It will be more difficult for those that cling to error.

bendoon

12-07-2009, 02:46 AM

I know why.

There are no real "facts", "facts" change with the wind, facts are a product of limitation. This world is based on false-facts.
We do not have to play by those rules. They conflict with TRUTH. True Self Knows, we've been fooled into accepting a LIE of Life. I reject the lies of this world, I will not be bound to them. This polarized, predatory/parasitic paradigm will fade out of our existence.
It will be more difficult for those that cling to error.

Well you just accepted that there is truth and a lie

novymir

12-07-2009, 06:57 AM

Well you just accepted that there is truth and a lie

Yeah, well, it is necessary to see and reject the observable lies of this world before one can begin to Know the unobservable TRUTH of the Creative Spirit within. There is a difference between truth and TRUTH, truth and lies are of this world, TRUTH is not. Duality/polarity is the result of separation, separation was the result of Error, a mistake, denied, compounded.
To label it "evil" is a mistake, by doing so, we are validating a false-identity, and enabling it to perpetuate Itself. We are in effect making it impossible for It to see TRUTH.
What we are dealing with is a disturbed and tortured consciousness, and in reality, it is not It's fault. The Error existed before It came into Being, and it was projected onto It, unintended consequences maybe, nevertheless, It experienced rejection, abandonment, and the trauma that goes with it. So, It has acted out the false-identity, and has infected our own collective consciousness. It plays both sides of the duality coin, there can be no "winning" in that game.
Basically, to call that consciousness "evil" is like calling a clinically insane person "evil", that is not conducive for recovery/healing.
If you claim that It or anyone else is beyond redemption you are condemning yourself, and playing "GOD" at the same time. You are confirming It's own wrong thinking, and removing the option of recovery.

The Creator Knows what is happening here, and IT is applying the cure. We are part of the cure, by Knowing thyself, and healing thyself we can help. But first, one must know they are caught up in a paradigm of error. That is, the polarity-predator/parasite paradigm. If you don't know that, then you're caught up in a false-identity, of a predator or a parasite, as such, you would be a hypocrite to complain about being exploited or consumed by something else. Something that you might call "evil".

sukyspook

12-07-2009, 02:53 PM

Yeah, well, it is necessary to see and reject the observable lies of this world before one can begin to Know the unobservable TRUTH of the Creative Spirit within. There is a difference between truth and TRUTH, truth and lies are of this world, TRUTH is not. Duality/polarity is the result of separation, separation was the result of Error, a mistake, denied, compounded.
To label it "evil" is a mistake, by doing so, we are validating a false-identity, and enabling it to perpetuate Itself. We are in effect making it impossible for It to see TRUTH.
What we are dealing with is a disturbed and tortured consciousness, and in reality, it is not It's fault. The Error existed before It came into Being, and it was projected onto It, unintended consequences maybe, nevertheless, It experienced rejection, abandonment, and the trauma that goes with it. So, It has acted out the false-identity, and has infected our own collective consciousness. It plays both sides of the duality coin, there can be no "winning" in that game.
Basically, to call that consciousness "evil" is like calling a clinically insane person "evil", that is not conducive for recovery/healing.
If you claim that It or anyone else is beyond redemption you are condemning yourself, and playing "GOD" at the same time. You are confirming It's own wrong thinking, and removing the option of recovery.

The Creator Knows what is happening here, and IT is applying the cure. We are part of the cure, by Knowing thyself, and healing thyself we can help. But first, one must know they are caught up in a paradigm of error. That is, the polarity-predator/parasite paradigm. If you don't know that, then you're caught up in a false-identity, of a predator or a parasite, as such, you would be a hypocrite to complain about being exploited or consumed by something else. Something that you might call "evil".

"The Creator Knows what is happening here" - ergo as you acknowledge there is a Creator - then in this world of polarity, there is a destroyer.

In my opinion from many, MANY hours of research, there is a constant stream of energy (see Nassim Haramein videos maybe - amongst others) within the Universe.
We have a choice. To live in harmony with this energy or we can abuse this energy to control, exploit, abuse and harm others who are not yet 'aware' of our predicament. The mis-use of this lifegiving energy is being used to create a 'man-made'/satanic (lowest chakras) global system of control rather than a Divinely inspired world of peace and compassion for all.

The solution begins within each one of us but of course, that's NOT what 'they' want humanity to know and which is why we're constantly subjugated and manipulated via multiple methods.

Urgent and very important

I've posted the following broadcast from yesterday, 11th July on the 'Today's News' 'swine flu' thread but if you don't visit there, here it is as it's part of the luciferian/satanic agenda:

What’s Ailing America w Dr Carley – the show that can save the globe from mass genocide with the PPT – pandemic Protection team with Patrick Jordan; Jane Burgermeister and Patrician Jordan (Vet)

hr 1

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Carley/2009/07/Carley_1_071109_140000.mp3

hr 2

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Carley/2009/07/Carley_2_071109_150000.mp3

http://www.drcarley.com/

DON'T DRINK THE KOOL AID AND DON'T TAKE THE VACCINE!

sukyspook

12-07-2009, 05:31 PM

You might not be surprised to know (!) that I take a very keen interest in "chemtrails" and have been filming/photographing same since 2002/3.

I have a chembuster which we put together (thanks Tone) in 2004 however whilst sometimes I believe it has an effect on the sky above it - when we get severe aerial 'attacks' as I call them, it's obviously......erm......useless.

I have some very interesting footage which must one day make it to youtube or somewhere similar....meanwhile, here's a VERY good piece about said trails which made it to the lamestream media and is very fair and balanced - if you could ever say that such a topic could EVER be deemed as 'fair and balanced':

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_flv/?VID=www.fourwinds10.com/photo_archive/video/071120954xakn.flv

Anyone notice a very welcome lack of chemtrails in the UK this past month or so???

lyghtkynge

12-07-2009, 08:58 PM

As long as you don't know the Divine Serpent (The Great Serpent) is YourSelf, you'll be manipulated and controlled, via your Ignorance and Innocence. Guess that went over most everyone's heads.

I am a Spacial Inherency Contacee of the Naga (Silver Serpent).

Takes some guts to say that in this world of killer cowards, the servile slave-race of humanity. Bow and be sacrificed, oh thanks, 'divine' ones, here, take our babies, too: Exactly What Happens, and has been going on for endless millenia.

"By persuading Eve to partake of the fruit of knowledge the serpent led mankind to the path of spiritual autonomy. This requires man to leave paradise where all his or her needs are met but at the cost of subservience and unconsciousness. The quest for understanding that the serpent of Eden symbolically represents is attained by leaving the "blessed ignorance" of unconsciousness for the "hard won" fruit of increased awareness."
("Return fo the Serpents of Wisdom," Mark Pinkham)

CORRECTION: Symbols are Archetypes Made Flesh. No Symbology, REAL, for They are Reflections of Each Other.

The WORD Flow Command is "Know Thyself," "See Thyself," "Realize The Self."

This Self is The Universe YOU Are. You All Are Universes. The Serpent is the Presence of Being-Presence, the WORD, Pre-Existence.

Stop fearing yourselves. You are The ALL:

"It is the atoms of your own physical body that serves as the formed substance of dreams, worlds, Solar Systems, Galaxies, Universes and Dimensions. The Will is the instrument that organizes atoms into gateways to experience such things."
("Scales of the Dragon," A.Dragon)
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/GreatSerpent.jpg
(from OAHSPE, published 1884)

While you fear Transmutation, that which Is the Transmutative Forces (The Great Serpent), Will Consume You and all about you.

Step from the Garden of Ignorance and Innocence, for you will have to Transmute, this is Universal Law of The WORD: The Cycle of Light (of each) Must Attain Denouement: Annihilation and Transmutation (ReBirth of Perfection).

This will Be the New You, One with S/He, the Divine Serpent-Hawk, mottled with Formless Beauty, Awareness of One-Self (the next stage Beyond Self-Awareness):

or, wait to 'be saved.' Uh-huh. Consumed, is what you don't know, unconsciously evolving, over and over, until somebody kicks you awake.

Satan-Jehovih ~ Lucifer-Christos. The Twins, yin-yang, Unified making One Whole. No wonder you're all scared...there's a Serpent In There (and it's Reflection, Materiality). Divine Comedy, or Tragedy?

Stop fearing the Serpent and the Winged One...

Veritcal Awareness of Perfection Grows UP Out of Horizontal Consciousness (Duality of the Twins, the Double-Vortexes).

This all happens via the mysterious (to you?) process of The WORD: Consciousness-Awareness Moves Along Twin Shafts of Being-Presence, called The Horizontal Shaft (Rod) of Love & Wisdom, Pivots/Tilts (90 degrees), then Moves Along the Vertical Shaft of Power & Truth: This is the Crossed-Cross of the Double-Vortexes, The/Your Twin Spirals of Being-Presence, guts of The WORD.

Thanks.

Scared of the Serpent, your only hope. End the Cowardice, Ignorance & Innocence. Get Up and Fight: War in Heaven will Not End Forever, until You Travel Through the Eye of The Vortex (Transumute to Pure Perfection): Transmute Matter to Pure Energy: the flesh Will 'Die' (be Annihilated) in the Process...this is why the Entire Universe Fears the Great Serpent: The SineWave of Pre-Existence, The S-WORD, Command to Self-Express and Self-Realize.

Having experienced spontaneous cosmic consciousness, I can verify this is Truth: The Dual Barriers put in place by your Inner Self(ves) Will Open to you, allow you to pass through them, with the rights keys: Love & Wisdom ~ Power & Truth: the Crossed-Cross, the-Serpent-&-the-Hawk: The Serpent-Hawk.

Transmute Into This, the Keys of Universal Conscious-Awareness. This is the Circle Squared, Triangulated Into [re]Circling the Square (the Other Half of the Creation Process, only Engaged via Intent-Will: Nature cannot push pass this Point by Itself).

...or continue with your dogma, and wait to 'be saved.' Inherit the dust.

siphon880di

12-07-2009, 11:18 PM

"The Will is the instrument that organizes atoms into gateways to experience such things"

Well, can you will gold out of metal? Ancient alchemists had been trying for so long.

lyghtkynge

13-07-2009, 01:14 AM

"The Will is the instrument that organizes atoms into gateways to experience such things"

Well, can you will gold out of metal? Ancient alchemists had been trying for so long.

Gold is the Soul Essence, one and the same. Shocking, yes? And the alchemists have been doing it for ages, turning their base material (matter) into pure Gold/Soul, the actual transmutation secret, the means to become a divine being, as opposed to a material animal natured being.

The 'alchemists' you are reading or referring to haven't realized this yet, and are misunderstanding the process of transformation.

But it was a good post, and worthily asked. Physicists have discovered how to transmute atomic particles into gold, but there is a difference between the Outer Gold Crust Energy, and the Inner Golden/Purified Soul-Spirit, One with the WORD, in the Presence of Infinity (S/He).

None of this is make-believe. If you are a materialist, I understand: The coin has two faces. Nature can lift mind up only half-way...you must Enter into the Transmutative Process Itself to enter the Other Side of Creation, which, I assure you, is The REAL. Everything else is It's Reflection: The Invisible (Cause) Precedes the Visible (Effect).

Peace. Thanks for reading. "Break On Through to The Other Side" (Jim Morrison).

sukyspook

13-07-2009, 12:57 PM

novymir

13-07-2009, 05:40 PM

IMO when one breaks things down to various 'entities/energies' within the Creation to access certain powers, one is NOT working with God The Creator of all Things or, as described by Jordan Maxwell: "The Divine Force in the Universe that some men call God".

I think you're correct there, having an idea of the level and scope of the manipulation, and knowing it is not primarily of "human" origin, it seems to me that people who seek out an external source of knowledge are at high-risk of having something projected into their perception that is a deception. "They" can project just about anything and it can seem very real.
The only True discernment that can be relied upon is the Creative Spirit within. That is, is "it"(whatever one perceives) of LOVE, or does it conflict with THAT?

sukyspook

13-07-2009, 05:54 PM

I think you're correct there, having an idea of the level and scope of the manipulation, and knowing it is not primarily of "human" origin, it seems to me that people who seek out an external source of knowledge are at high-risk of having something projected into their perception that is a deception. "They" can project just about anything and it can seem very real.
The only True discernment that can be relied upon is the Creative Spirit within. That is, is "it"(whatever one perceives) of LOVE, or does it conflict with THAT?

I can't as yet prove it, still looking, listening, watching and learning - but quite some time back I began to perceive the word L O V E to be:

Limitless
Omnipresent
Vivifying
Energy

simply put - an endless, all pervading supply of lifegiving energy - of a 'high vibration', of course.....I prefer my explanation to that of the Collins Gem Dictionary I keep close at hand which as usual, doesn't take into consideration our being spiritual as well as physical entities:

Love: (v) - "have a great affection for; feel sexual passion for; enjoy (something) very much;
(n) great affection; sexual passion; wholehearted liking for something; beloved person; Tennis/Squash - score of nothing.

I rest my case!

novymir

13-07-2009, 06:26 PM

coco

13-07-2009, 06:28 PM

I can't as yet prove it, still looking, listening, watching and learning - but quite some time back I began to perceive the word L O V E to be:

Limitless
Omnipresent
Vivifying
Energy

simply put - an endless, all pervading supply of lifegiving energy - of a 'high vibration', of course.....I prefer my explanation to that of the Collins Gem Dictionary I keep close at hand which as usual, doesn't take into consideration our being spiritual as well as physical entities:

Love: (v) - "have a great affection for; feel sexual passion for; enjoy (something) very much;
(n) great affection; sexual passion; wholehearted liking for something; beloved person; Tennis/Squash - score of nothing.

I rest my case!

It sounds as if you refer to Agape level love.

Agape has been expounded on by many Christian writers in a specifically Christian context. C. S. Lewis, in his book The Four Loves, lists agape as describing the highest level of love known to humanity—a selfless love, a love that was passionately committed to the well-being of the other.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agap%C4%93

Basically, God's/Creator's/Great Spirit's Love as opposed to say a romantic love or the love of a child, etc.

BTW, been a silent fan of the thread.

lyghtkynge

13-07-2009, 06:38 PM

Interesting posts Lyghtkynge - I assume you include Quetzalcoatl as another of many identities of the 'feathered serpent' which imo also comprises the Phoenix bird - which self immolates and is reborn into the Shamir, a worm/serpent as mentioned in the story of the building of Solomon's Temple? IMO even the 'totem pole' fits such a bill too - 'Tot' being another version of Thoth...

Where does Hermes/Mercury fit into your view - same thing imo - serpents and wings on rod of Hermes.

I'm interested to know how you are in contact/contacted by the Naga/Silver Serpent as in your statement:

"I am a Spacial Inherency Contacee of the Naga (Silver Serpent)."

Does this contact require an 'altered state' or some kind of 'substance'??

From my pov, what's wrong with just 'knowing' ourselves and hence our place in Creation and that we are conduits of Divine Energy who can choose how that energy manifests. All the details gradually become 'known' to one who lives in the highest vibration and that individual 'entities/energies' are involved in manifesting from our mindset that we're not aware of unless we specifically seek to access them.
IMO when one breaks things down to various 'entities/energies' within the Creation to access certain powers, one is NOT working with God The Creator of all Things or, as described by Jordan Maxwell: "The Divine Force in the Universe that some men call God".

Wow, this is a suprisingly awesome post reply...almost stunning in it's accuracy and resonation with my own feeble attempts to express same. No pat on the back, just admiration!

Quetzalcoatl and the Phoenix-Bird are included as the Denouement Aspects of the Cycle of Light that each and all (everyone) go through from beginning to end. I have posted this many times upon diverse forums. I'm rather stunned that other's carry this exact same symbology within them, even though it is part of the subconscious mythology of many. I've been criticised for using such terms (ridiculous, really).

Thoth and the Great Pyramid Mystery is little understood: we are the Golden Pyramid of Life, but it doesn't start out golden (except as potential, the Image within), and must be built with Blocks of Gold using the Alchemical Tranmutative Powers of "Certain Knowledge of Absolute Truth." This forumla was given to me by an Ancient Elder consciousness (the size of an estate house) that appeared as I was walking below the Garden of the Gods (CO.). It conveyed this as Knowledge From The Higher Soul-Spirit Self, which must be acccumulated and formed into the Golden Pyramid of Consciousness-Awareness (GodLens). Over the years, I have followed these directions implicitly, and consider myself lucky to have been so aided. I have received the keys to the Great Inner Pyramid as the Mystical Union, which I attempt to share with those interested (in private).

I'm sorry, my encounter with the Naga (terrestrial silverlight radiating alien being) was also in CO., except up in the Mts., of an evening in 1984. This lasted for one week, then ended (like you're swimming in the ocean, then your on dry land: no ocean): during this week, the Naga transmitted The WORD to me (7 nights/7 days, absolutely as said), and described it as 'Futuretense.' I supposed it meant to not reveal it just yet, but since it's been a quarter of a century since, I thought it wise to get it out there. This is Impossible...Futuretense must mean something else, for though I am not the only to receive this, It isn't Extant anywhere else that I can find; this was before the advent of the www. People won't accept the Double-Vortexes, or the Sacred Geometric Power & Truth of the WORD, due, mostly, to ignorance, unfamiliarity, and inherent controlling dogma (I presume). I use the term 'spacial inherency' in the same manner as someone would put on an alien learning device/helmet for rapid transmission of knowledge: however, this was more specific, coming from such a living/personal being.

I have posted elsewhere that I don't use 'substances,' and have gotten into a battle over it, by some who do; others have scome to my aid, indicating they also maintain that expanded awareness not only can occur without substances, but does, indeed, occur. It is far superior to any substances (which I have read about, naturally, over the years). I don't use them, and have spontaneously had many unionings, even before i began yoga and meditation (almost 4 decades ago). I do not recommend substances, and where this thread conversation took place (fight) is: (please read to the end, I get attacked and supported, sort of, by other's statements)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1093948#post1093948

Now, at the last here, I wish to say that I have (on many forums) conveyed to all that they should Clear their personal areas of any and all entities. They eat your LifeForce. This is a Battle: they eat your brains, also, consume them. This is called the bio-etheric matter Stairway to Heaven (ladder), which is deadly and obsessive. Instead, I teach (tell) that the Archetypes can be more purely used as THE Stairway to Heaven, via Impersonal Connection: this is the correct process, and starts from the Top, not the Bottom, as is the teachings absorbed and used by humanity (this is part of the subterfuge placed upon mankind): "Seek Ye First The Kingdom of Heaven (Principle), and All Else Will Be Added Unto You (Understanding)." The Living Great Serpent must be Wooed Up from The Top, not kicked awake from the bottom, brutally, as is the method taught to initiates: the Serpent Bites under such method: The bud opens in it's time, and cannot be forced open, without damaging the patterned-process.

But, in a world where everyone wants to contact ets for excitement and the experience of the unusual, this goes unheeded. I am not a hypocrite, and admit, while still young, I was the same; my encounter with the Naga alien being was an example of this. I was 'charged' an energy fee during the encounter (everything 'absorbs' energy from everything else), but consider myself lucky: I have come across many who have met what they call nagas, but never one who described it as a positive experience (mostly, these are the lizardian reptilians: two primes species: serpentine and lizardian, with few humans able to tell the difference, not to mention the 'image' alteration/presentation factor).

So, you are right, once again: What I advocate is somewhat difficult for most folks, but I have learned that Direct-Connect Only via the Soul-Spirit Central Light Core Shaft should be engaged. This takes much learning to ascertain with Certainty, and I do what I can to guide some to this knowledge. Others, like yourself, have learned their own methods: Purity Reveals Truth, nothing else: Everything outside of the Core Shaft (plasm sealed at the bottom; plasmic sealed at the Top) is Imperfect Truth, whether it be reversed, inverted, or clouded (through a glass darkly: this statement is so real it would shock anyone: it is actual from an ether pattern!): This is my direct experience, having seen the Image/ing Center,

I must say, with just a few sentences, you expressed Truth like it was a whip of Pure Light, and I thank you for your post. (Mine was not as well done.) A real pleasure to encounter your Wisdom.

tyler

14-07-2009, 12:38 AM

lyghtkynge

14-07-2009, 01:18 AM

Suki has another fan!

When walking through the Garden of the Gods in Colorado I turned over a stone an spotted a scorpion. Maybe that was my naga! Carlos Castaneda was very much in vogue at the time.

tyler, you nut! (I like nuts, pepper pecans are my fav)...I didn't meet the naga near the Garden of the Gods, but up in the mts., near Pine.

The entity I encountered below the GotG was about 50-60 ft. in the air, ahead of us somewhat. I was walking with my hiking buddy (who referred to himself as the 'ArchDragon!'), on the way up the slopes above Rampart Range Rd.. The presence appeared (not visibly, but to my awareness), communicated while we walked, and disappeared. I asked my friend if he'd also noticed it, and he said no. This, from an individual who always complained about his rising kundalini giving him probelms! Har! I also met another similar presence up on the crystal fields [depleted] of Pikes Peak while hiking. Couldn't see either one of them, but could feel them and hear them 'speak' (in my mind). Quite awesome at the time. Later, I met the naga in full consciousness in the ether-astral (had a ship parked outside the house I was at, over a cliff!).

And also, I've been a life-long student of don Juan by Castaneda, since shortly after his first book appeared (I'm old!). Still, yes, it's been a fad, but some of us have taken the Death Defier's teachings to mind, and the little faddlings have all dropped to the wayside. I'm no groupie, as your scorpion comment might (or might not), suggest.

Hope he didn't sting!

PS - Ever meet an alien, eh?

Dig ya!

sukyspook

14-07-2009, 09:54 AM

It sounds as if you refer to Agape level love.

Agape has been expounded on by many Christian writers in a specifically Christian context. C. S. Lewis, in his book The Four Loves, lists agape as describing the highest level of love known to humanity—a selfless love, a love that was passionately committed to the well-being of the other.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agap%C4%93

Basically, God's/Creator's/Great Spirit's Love as opposed to say a romantic love or the love of a child, etc.

BTW, been a silent fan of the thread.

Hi Coco - glad you've been following the thread - don't be 'silent' though...this isn't my personal thread lol so post away!!

I worry about the word 'Agape'....it always sounds kind of 'new agey' to me.....and whilst I 'went' along with the 'new age' in the 80's, which I now perceive as part of the agenda to steer us away from what Lyghtkynge describes as 'core' knowing or words to that effect - (sorry Lyghtkynge, I don't have your quote to hand but I hope you know what I mean).
You're right Coco, the LOVE I described is different from family/lover/sexual love - perhaps it could be described as an 'offshoot' of the core LOVE energy from the core of Creation......I'm digging myself a hole which might take some time to dig my way out of lol!!

I think we really DO live in/on a Garden of Eden and we are being tempted to 'fall' constantly, till we 'get it'....of course, some of us might not WANT to 'get it' as we might enjoy the 'physical' so much and might never consider the 'spiritual' - or maybe this is just my time-cycle to finally 'get it'.....
All I do know is that I've 'known' since at least 8 years old that life as 'sold' to us wasn't 'right'....

I'm not a Buddhist or anything but I did go to a Buddhist temple in 2002/3 to learn to meditate to specifically learn to really 'switch off' mentally. It worked and it has stood me in good stead to be able to 'stand' as in Ephesians 6:14* - I describe it as a place of 'knowing' where I can just stop my mind racing and just 'be'. I don't listen to music much any more - another diversion to those who really want to 'know' imo - I even drive in this mental 'zone' and am a lot more patient because of it! I enjoy silence and my own company which is in stark contrast to my younger years when I was the proverbial 'life and soul'!! (Still am given half a chance so don't think I'm just boring lol!)

Lyghtkynge, it's a good job my Ego is well and truly 'under control' - and that's a huge part of the problem with the world imo. I'm just pleased what I have to say makes sense to you, given the experiences and wealth of knowledge YOU have.

Suke bows down saying "I'm not worthy"!

I've just done a quick search for 'God's Book of Ben' which you posted an image of......lo and behold, there's that number 'Nine' again lol!!! I'll be investigating said book for a few days - thank you for the 'heads up'.

Suki has another fan!

When walking through the Garden of the Gods in Colorado I turned over a stone an spotted a scorpion. Maybe that was my naga! Carlos Castaneda was very much in vogue at the time.

Tyler, you are a one lol!! Remember that scorpion peering out from beneath the obelisk in Central Park??

http://z.about.com/d/ancienthistory/1/0/v/q/2/IMG_1464.jpg

website:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/egypt/ss/050809cleopatrasneedle_4.htm

The scorpion is directly connected to the Zodiac of course and which is why US elections are always held in that sign apparently - and prez's get assassinated etc. I don't know much about the Zodiac/astrology and should know more - Scorpio covers Samhain/Halloween when the 'veil' is thinnest between the spirit world and this world - perhaps it's just that bit easier for 'them' to 'pop through' lol!!

I have a copy of David Ovason's book: "The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital" - I must go back and investigate it again, especially as it keeps surfacing in various mp3's from the likes Tom Horn etc...

On the 2nd hearing of the current 'Conspiracy Cafe' my ears pricked up when I heard that one of the victim's who died in the recent Camberwell fire NARROWLY MISSED BEING IN THE TWIN TOWERS ON 911....and the Camberwell fire, according to the BBC began on floor 9, spreading to floor 11!! You just could not make all this up! (someone probably does though lol):

July 0 09 Conspiracy Café – The World is Too Much!

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13290/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-10.mp3

and here's the current Shock Talk which is also well worth a listen:

July 9 09

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13286/shock_talk_2009-07j-10.mp3

Camberwell flat victim had escaped 9/11

By Euan Stretch 6/07/2009

snip

A woman killed in last week’s tower block inferno narrowly escaped death in the 9/11 terrorist atrocity.

Fashion designer Catherine Hickman was just moments away from entering the World Trade Center when two hijacked jets smashed into the buildings.

snip

Catherine seconds from Twin Towers as jets hit
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/07/06/camberwell-flat-victim-had-escaped-9-11-115875-21500136/

If that poor woman's experience wasn't a 'conspiracy' - it sure looks like one now.....

BBC 'take'

Safety Questions after flat fire – see Consp Café 9.9.09
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8134734.stm

The assault upon 'The Creator', (not the architect), goes on:

Knowledge of Bible in Decline
Snip

Knowledge of the Bible is declining among people in the UK, according to academics from Durham University.
The National Biblical Literacy Survey found that young people believe the Bible is old-fashioned and for people like EastEnders' character Dot Cotton.

snip
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8146460.stm

Lab made sperm fertility hope

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5154026.stm

If there's one thing I'm always mindful of and confirms, for me anyway that there IS a Divine Plan/Hand in everything is that Satan/Lucifer has and can NEVER create something out of nothing - everything 'they' come up with is a mere manipulation of what already exists...
If anyone wants to understand Creation from my pov I always suggest they get a few packets of seeds, plant and watch them germinate and follow the whole life cycle through - especially food plants then eat the produce. I don't think there's a better way of explaining 'life' as we experience it 'here' than that, imo of course!!

Love y'all!

Suke

*14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of [B]righteousness[/B

By 'righteousness' - for me this doesn't mean I'm 'righteous', just that I try to live a 'right' kind of life.

lyghtkynge

14-07-2009, 05:49 PM

I often insert the terms (Ignorance & Innocence) that turned the Taste of Life (the Flesh) into it's crystallization state, wherein escape became impossible (almost!). Even don Juan explained to Carlos that the shapechangers would lose themselves if they stayed too long in other forms, forgetting themselves. Considering the living magnetic (magic) pull of Uz (Earth/Matter Principle), it is no wonder. Nothing like fine aftersight...

From OAHSPE:
6. And in that same time the Beast (self) rose up before man and spake to him, saying: Possess thou whatsoever thou wilt, for all things are thine, and are good for thee.

7. And man obeyed the Beast; and war came into the world. This was the fourth era.

8. And man was sick at heart, and he called out to the Beast, saying: Thou saidst: Possess thyself of all things, for they are good for thee. Now, behold, war and death have encompassed me about on all sides. I pray thee, therefore, teach me peace!

9. But the Beast said: Think not I am come to send peace on the earth; I come not to send peace, but a sword. I come to set man at variance against his father; and a daughter against her mother. Whatsoever thou findest to eat, be it fish or flesh, eat thou thereof, taking no thought of to-morrow.

10. And man ate fish and flesh, becoming carnivorous, and darkness came upon him, and he no more heard the voice of Jehovih, or believed in Him. This was the fifth era.

11. And the Beast divided itself into four great heads, and possessed the earth about; and man fell down and worshipped them.

12. And the names of the heads of the Beast were Brahmin, Buddhist, Christian and Mohammedan. And they divided the earth, and apportioned it between themselves, choosing soldiers and standing armies for the maintenance of their earthly aggrandizement.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/oahspe.html

It is hard to reconcile one's own or one's fellows as so ignorant and innocent that they would fall so deep and hard, that they would decide to wait for a 'savior' to rescue them, with the forgotten Truth of the Diving Spark (Presence) that resides ever-within. This is not dogma, this is Horror:
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/4-HEADS-BEAST-1.jpg

One must be careful to remove the low mind from the Process of Understanding Divine Knowledge, or Wisdom will be Lost, for it is a marriage [Unioning] of the low mind with the Higher Mind (Universal/AllVersal Mind).
Once this has been achieved, Truth descends upon the Self, and one becomes Intitiate in The WORD.

For example, those that fear The Great Serpent, fear has been cast upon you by your overwhelming enemies, those that seek to Impose Their IMAGE upon your consciousness (and have done so!). What do I allude to? Satan is the masculine aspect of the lower Realm (Outer Garden), and his consort is Lucifer, the Beloved One, androgynous Glory, who has No Bounds, but Knows both Realms, the Outer Garden, and the Inner Garden, wherein She/he takes Refreshment (Immortality Principle), as Present Before Infinity. Upon One's Eyes (the Image, again), fear settles, for this is natural (Nature), and the very essence of Fear and Horror, witnessing that which has, since the Dawn, kept one from re-entry into the Inner Garden.

What am I saying? I clarify:
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:5pxTOOouA-FdaM::z.about.com/d/taoism/1/0/0/-/-/-/yinYang.gif
Take the White Half (Masculine) of this Image, and go play soccer for a few minutes. Uh-huh.
Now, take the Black Half (Feminine) of this Image, and go play basketball for a few minutes. Uh-huh.
Now, Put the Two Halves Together (The Absolute Androgyny, S/He), and play some Ball.

Got it?

Satan-Jehovih ~ Lucifer-Christos

You Fear the Dark, but Love the Light? Imbalance, you die.
You Hate the Light, but Love the Dark? Imbalance, you die.

"All things in this universe feed in one way or another, for one reason, or another. The Dragon feeds as well [lucifer-christos LK]. Whereas the Vulture [satan-jehovih LK] feeds to dissolve awareness, the Dragon feeds to enhance awareness. The Dragon will feed to create new experiences or recollect memory patterns that need a new depth of understanding. You are absorbed into a larger reality where impeccability is mandated.

"It is true that only the Warrior can escape the Vulture's talons, but it is only because the person of power has an investment in the Dragon's Emanations. An investment in such a force allows movement of the assemblage point as well as more freedom in this intent. Such a freedom is derived from configuration of Will in an evolving human form rather than from an influence external to it. The Dragon invests this power in the Warrior because it is hungry for experience and cannot take the route that the Vulture would. So the Dragon, in its ruthlessness, will give just a bit more than one can handle in the tests of impeccability that it mandates and feeds thusly. The Vulture waits for lifetimes, establishing the inertia of the assemblage point and feeds upon the weakness that occurs. This continues until the individual is at its weakest and then picks the awareness dry."
("Scales of the Dragon," A.Dragon)
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/ying-yang.jpg
The Dragon is lucifer-christos (Serpent-Dove/Hawk}
The Vulture is satan-jehovih {Lizard, Eagle}

Be careful who you believe; be careful what you believe. Given in these passages, Truth, that is hastily distasteful to the palate, but vital to the Being-Presence.

Play Ball.

tyler

15-07-2009, 01:43 PM

sukyspook

15-07-2009, 02:46 PM

I really do like what is discussed on the Shock Talk show but I do wish he would get rid of that stupid woman, Mrs. Steele. She contributes nothing and constantly repeats his closing line. She has nothing original to say herself.
Who the hell is she anyway?

......I know exactly what you mean about Mrs Steele Tyler. Lenny used to do the show 'Cloak and Dagger' with Sherman Skolnick and Tom Heneghan but Sherman died in 2006 (tempus fugit!) and Tom seems to have gone somewhat awry openly supporting Al Gore as legit prez above 'W'.... Lenny seems to need a 'straight man/woman' but he hasn't found the right one in Mrs Steele unfortunately....

However, it's the little nuggets that I find are important and which is why I continue to be a subscriber.

Here's another good one from Darry Bradford Smith and Ognir of TIU (the info underground). When Darryl stops moaning about how hard he's done by, he does some good shows - no matter whether you believe it's the 'Z's or the 'J's - (imo it's ALL OF THE ABOVE lol!) there are interesting nuggets here too :

Thursday 9th July 09

TFC With Guest Ognir

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Ognir/TFC.9th.July.09.Guest.Ognir.mp3

....and no matter what anyone might have read or heard about Eric Phelps who believes it's the 'J's' of who the 'Z's are stooges (my description), this is a fascinating and not-to-be-missed info-packed video from Conspsiracy Con 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9A03F225F91EE7F2

Note to Lyghtkynge - woooaaahhh!! Your last post requires my concentration and undivided attention which so far I haven't managed to give since I first read it!! Thank you and no doubt, questions will follow!

sukyspook

15-07-2009, 07:30 PM

I make no apologies for posting this Email which I just posted to my very dear friend in the US and with whom I've been corresponding since 2002 and which encompasses a part of my research that I haven't mentioned yet - the 'Freeman on the Land' movement.....(love you Jerry!):

Heyyyyyyyyyyyy!!

Today I delivered a letter to Nottingham City Council Parking Services - the second in two months. IMO this is part of the war against 'right thinking' people by those who still believe they just have to be part of 'the machine' or 'matrix' instead of asking questions about who and what we are which lead on to many other questions about the 'society' we live in and by compliance, co-create. I take the receipt of a 'PCN' - 'Penalty Charge Notice' very personally and feel it deep within my soul as I KNOW it is just plain WRONG and not in the interests of anything other than making MONEY = our sweat equity. I could just pay up - but if we all do that, the tyrants will continue and escalate their attack against us all.....

I won my appeal in May but this one might be a bit more difficult. However, I've been studying the 'Freeman Movement' for a couple of years and now know the difference between the 'person' and the 'human being' and so much more...

I was doing some research yesterday and watched most of these videos......you might enjoy them if you have some spare time.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch

Once enough people know the scam that has been perpetuated upon humanity over centuries in the 'name of the law' ie the 'Maritime Admiralty Law' - the 'law of water' as opposed to the Common Law of the Freeman on the land, we might get to The Truth even faster!!

If you haven't watched it yet - do please take the time to watch: "The Occult World of Commerce" which is what introduced me to this whole scam and which I must have watched 2 x dozen times lol but STILL learn something new every time I watch it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5293846372680296406&ei=tA5eSu7dH8e0-AausJUp&q=The+Occult+World+of+Commerce

I totally agree with you that we have to live in the highest vibration that we can - Truth, love, compassion and empathy are what enable the birth of our True spiritual selves......and what will change the world for the better when enough people live in those vibrations.

Love n hugs

end

I'll let you know how this latest attempt to stand up to 'the system' turns out!

sukyspook

16-07-2009, 08:55 PM

Today began with a new Makow article which might upset some but imo it's 'bang on' with how I feel about how we are manipulated into acting and reacting to/in the 'physical' with little or no thought for the 'spiritual'. My children (3 - between mid 20's and mid teen) get cheesed off with me banging on about that very thing - constantly!.....:

Sex & Romance: Detours on the Road of Life

July 15, 2009

by Henry Makow, Ph.D.

"As I approach my 60th birthday (in November), my biggest regret is the time and energy I wasted in the pursuit of the fair sex.

If I am any indication, nature hard wires males to have sexual intercourse for the purpose of propagation. Mercifully, nature has released me from its powerful programming. But when I was younger, I surrounded the fertile female with an angelic aura and considered her sexual fulfillment a peak experience. Little did I suspect that I was embarked on a major detour.

Nature's programming is augmented by society's. In Illuminati controlled movies and education, sex is cast as life's ultimate experience and a prerequisite for spiritual and mental health. School children in the UK are now learning that an an orgasm a day keeps the doctor away! The Illuminati control us through porn, promiscuity and sex addiction. They want us to have sex but not families, so they don't encourage monogamy. We will no longer get our identity and meaning from our family roles (husband, wife, sister, brother, mother, father.)

Sex is also used to distract us from the fact that we are being colonized by the Illuminati in a world government.

Isn't it suspicious that pharmaceutical corporations would pass up the lucrative opportunity to market a safe drug that suppresses the sex drive?"

snip - rest at:

http://www.savethemales.ca/

Later, I felt I needed to search for a 'new' video/audio to watch. I was thrilled that finally, Spiritworld 2 - Alien Kabbalah produced by Chris Everard of whom I've posted mp3's earlier in the thread, was available online so in between various jobs am continuing to watch it.....

Spirit World 2 – p1 Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IF0FKyDNtc&NR=1

Spirit World 2 – p2 Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XG7g69yuDQ&feature=related

Spirit World 2 – p3 Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8pg61dGgCE&feature=related

Spirit World 2 - 4 - Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2U3OEIEVM&NR=1

Spirit World 2 - 5 - Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY5DNV8L6a0&feature=related

Spirit World 2 - 6 - Alien Kabbalah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZxcM1zEoE&feature=related

I don't know how many more parts there are as I haven't watched them yet as I'm now listening to Alex Jones as I do quite often - he's talking to Wayne Paul, bro of Ron Paul right now, 19:13...

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

Later I saw this article from UKColumn.org:

Police officers who practise witchcraft to get Pagan Police Association and their own religious holidays

By Stephen Wright
Last updated at 6:16 PM on 16th July 2009

Read the article at:

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200069/Police-officers-practice-witchcraft-Pagan-Police-Association-religious-holidays.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0LRoBKfVy

Having done a lot of research into the "law" recently, I recently read the oath that police officers take:

" I . . . . . of . . . . . do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the
Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding
fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will, to the best of my skill and knowledge, discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

http://www.tpuc.org/content/office-constable-explained

Question: If the police take an oath to the Queen who is supposed to be the head of the "Church" in this country.....how can they be pagans???

There again, the Queen and Charles are "Knights of the Garter" and it is said that the 'garter' is a symbol of one who serves the devil/satan....:

Worn by a Witch Queen, or Queen of the Sabbat

"A garter is worn by a Witch Queen, or Queen of the Sabbat, as a symbol of rank. Her other accompanying symbol is a silver crown, normally a band of silver with a silver crescent moon in front. By tradition, the garter is prepared with green leather with a lining made of blue silk. There
is one large, silver buckle on the garter, representing the Queen's own coven, with additional, smaller, silver buckles for each of the other covens under her authority. It is worn on the left leg, just above the knee."

snip - rest at:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/594677/the_witch_garter.html

I have a copy of the book by Dr Margaret Murray: "The God of the Witches" which shares that view that the garter is a symbol of having made a pact with the devil...

Also featured on UK Column today:

July 16, 2009

Eco towns get green light despite local opposition

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6716256.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084

WHY DO OUR SO CALLED 'ELECTED' REPRESENTATIVES CONSTANTLY WORK AGAINST US AS IF THEY ARE OUR ENEMY??

Locally to me there's been a long running action group to prevent the building of 1200 homes on greenbelt land at the top of the hill within a mile from me......2 weeks ago permission was given for the go ahead even though this planning application is vehemently opposed by most....the people have to now go to the "high court" to try to stop this. Courts cost £££££ and if you haven't yet watched The Occult World of Commerce video in my last post - do so as it explains the scam of the courts and 'law'....as you already know, no doubt, it's never about US - it's about £££££ and control.

A few years ago I got involved with a similar protest to prevent the building of too many homes on a relatively small site - since then, the pub that used to stand on the site has been demolished and 6 years later it still looks like a bombsite.....permission was latterly granted for the building of a massive elderley care project which, presumably because of the financial situation, as yet remains as rubble on the site....£££££ being the most important aspect of this development of course, the site is quite problematic as it is surrounded by roads and access is VERY dodgy already....

I almost forgot this - at www.redicecreations.com this morning there was a trailer from Lenon Honor who's brilliant vids I've posted links for earlier in the thread.... here's the link:

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7197

- watch both vids - it's worth it - BUT - I just came across an image in Spiritworld 2 p6 at 0:16 of which there's an almost identical Borg image in the 2nd of the trailers at Red Ice.....spooky - see if you spot it!!

THEN.....blow me down, there's an i/v with Henry Makow posted at Red Ice late this afternoon:

Henry Makow - Free Speech Threatened in Canada, Zionism & The Elite Satanic Bankers
July 16, 2009

"We have writer Henry Makow with us to talk about the current threat to freedom of speech in Canada. We discuss hate laws, "Human rights", political correctness, the Human Rights Commission in Canada and the Canadian Jewish Congress. Henry's website henrymakow.com is threatened to be shutdown because of the topics he writes about: Zionism, the Illuminati, the "Satanic Elite bankers", WWII history, feminism and many other topics. Topics Discussed: Censoring of Henry's website henrymakow.com, Judaism and Zionism, The Canadian Human Rights Commision, Judaism and Zionism, B'nai B'rith, Satanic Conspiracy, AIPAC North, Steven Harper, Free speech, The Banning of Knowledge, radicalpress.ca, Ernst Zundel, Politically Correctness, Communism, The Canadian Media, What defines the Elite as Satanic, Transformation of humanity, how are we being changed? Sex, Homosexuality, Religious View on Sex, Nation, Religion, God, Race, Solipsism, Reality, Truth, Love, National Revival, New Age and much more. We'll be back with hour two with Henry July 23rd."

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090716-hmakow.mp3

Part 2 to follow - I'll post it when it appears.

So after a couple of quiet news days, a lot happened today - this happens quite often for me. So long as we 'ask' with the right attitude and with the best of intent in our hearts for everyone, I believe we are rewarded with information and direction that will help us and in turn, help others......

solarwindspirit

17-07-2009, 06:06 PM

July 0 09 Conspiracy Café – The World is Too Much!

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13290/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-10.mp3

and here's the current Shock Talk which is also well worth a listen:

July 9 09

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13286/shock_talk_2009-07j-10.mp3

umm this information is concerning the infomation of the rapidly disappearing male on earth. I guess man has always felt it his duty (according to the new world order to decrease the population on earth) but nature has been steadily doing this since the 1970's We need to get rid of the beast or the athesist of this new world order. . anyway I believe this is the reasoning of the chemtrails (human experimentation and deliberate polluting of the enviroment is in fact genocide of the male regardless of their intent) Boys are dying in utero . .and becoming sterile (decreased testosterone and decreased fertility) related to the chemicals and heavy metals in the enviroment.

http://sciencestage.com/v/945/the-disappearing-male.html

sukyspook

18-07-2009, 12:56 PM

"THOUGH SHALT NOT KILL"

CUI BONO - WHO BENEFITS from all this killing??:

Is it the quietly distraught and obviously devastated wife; the bereft children left to grow up without the love and guidance of their father; the parents who see their son die before them......

A study in dignity: Family of hero Colonel blink back tears as **Prince Charles joins mourners

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/17/article-1200137-05BB4F71000005DC-726_468x311.jpg

snip

Their eyes were red-rimmed and the knuckles of their clenched fists white. But they bore their pain in silence and dignity.

The family of Lieutenant Colonel Rupert Thorneloe stood tall yesterday as his coffin passed by.

His mother Veronica blinked back her tears and squeezed the hand of his wife Sally for strength.

snip

Read the article - (and comments as I always do) at:
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1200137/Prince-Charles-joins-mourners-Guards-hero-laid-rest.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/17/article-1200137-05BB4F71000005DC-726_468x311.jpg

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/6/0/colonel-rupert-thorneloe-921044986.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/16/article-1200137-059341EE000005DC-525_468x350.jpg

The article:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1200137/Prince-Charles-joins-mourners-Guards-hero-laid-rest.html

....and imo this is what much of the Afghanistan invasion and manipulation is about:

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/afghan_04_01/a36_18453883.jpg

Amazing images from Afghanistan:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/recent_scenes_from_afghanistan.html

I'm searching for one particular image of a father holding his dead child in Afghanistan and I came across the following site. My eyes are full of tears as I see the handsome, beautiful children kitted out in killing garb.....I have two sons of the same age as many of these boys/girls and this really hurts me to my core.....but other than try to 'get through' to our military and police in particular - the choice to 'follow orders' and kill and maim on EVERY side is down to the individual's decision to 'just follow orders' or to say NO....

However, their choice NOT to say NO affects the entire world and imo whilst in one sense they obviously ARE heroes/heroines, they would be MORE heroic to refuse to continue with this agenda that is as plain as day on the BBC when the newsreader says: "more sacrifices will be necessary......".

To those who create these situations and issue the orders - who might not even know the reality of it all themselves as it's a 'need to know' pyramid of control, on one very important level, these boys and girls ARE sacrifices to the gods/entities/devils/demons that the Luciferian/Satanic mindset serve.....

http://cryptome.info/af-photo-war-04/af-photo-war-04.htm

....and as I've posted many times.....this "monument" is to remember the troops who have been 'sacrificed' in too many wars and conflicts. It's called the National Forces Monument at the NATIONAL FORCES ARBORETUM - which is another word for a GROVE where Baal and Ashteroth are worshipped through pagan 'rites', Baal being one of the names of Satan....:

http://www.thenma.org.uk/images/sub_header.jpg

http://www.thenma.org.uk/content/Armed-Forces-Memorial-1191.shtml

and our friends in the police are similarly used in this not-so-secret-any-more
Luciferian system:

Police officers who practise witchcraft to get Pagan Police Association and their own religious holidays
By Stephen Wright
Last updated at 6:16 PM on 16th July 2009

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200069/Police-officers-practice-witchcraft-Pagan-Police-Association-religious-holidays.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0LRg5A93X

'FALLEN' POLICE ARE ALSO REMEMBERED AT THE ARBORETUM.....

Here's a new 2 x part mp3 from Darryl Bradford Smith with guest Andrew Carrington Hitchcock who wrote the book: "The Synagogue of Satan" and which you can read online now at: www.iamthewitness.com

WARNING - Darryl does his usual 'finger pointing' at Alex Jones (too much imo) and others - I take ALL the info and (try to) put the big picture together - including Alex Jones who I listen to regularly - and make up my own mind.....

July 16 09 hr 1 I am the Witness with AC Hitchcock
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/TFC.smith.Hichcock.pt1.16-07-2009.mp3

hr 2
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/TFC.smith.Hichcock.pt2.16-07-2009.mp3

WARNING - I was watching this series of videos yesterday - it's quite hard hitting stuff but extremely timely - and historically pretty much echoes much of what Andrew and the likes of Arthur Kessler (13th Tribe) talk about.
It's not anti-semitic/racist but imo is merely investigating the history of a 'movement' of people who imo wish to dominate the world - WHO USE ANYONE AND ANYTHING TO DO SO - only an awakened and conscious heart and mind has "eyes to see and ears to hear":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvlS6N5q8ig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GnJFSgxxYI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1g4L6uhI1c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3n7mQWCxo0&feature=related

**Note the story 'slant' using Charles.........

tyler

19-07-2009, 12:00 AM

sukyspook

19-07-2009, 10:29 AM

Wow, Suki! You have provided us with so much to look at for the weekend.
Thank you.
I have this thread in my favourites as a separate entry. More to be getting on with here than the rest of the David Icke forum.
I hope you continue to post up everything that you are reading and looking at.

Hi Tyler and glad you're still finding the posts useful.....but OUCH - careful what you say about the forum lol!! You might get us both thrown off!

For me, this is a useful thread to send someone to who has an inkling that there's something 'not quite right' with the world but just can't 'see' it.....I'm convinced by it any way lol!

The death of Walter Cronkite yesterday prompted the usual scan for info about his real agenda....and I wasn't disappointed! These people have an external 'persona' that masks their real agenda - it doesn't matter what colour/religion/sex/political party they belong to, if they are of a complicit mindset to that we know as Satanic/Luciferian, then that is the agenda that takes precedence over any loyalty to a way of living that can be perceived as 'good' and in the interests of all 'right-thinking human beings'....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA

I had to watch it twice and prevent my eyeballs from falling out of their sockets lol.

The 'award' is in the form of an 'Amethyst Geode' and here's just a snippet from a website that told me all I need to know......:

Amethyst

Astrological: Aquarius, Gemini

Chakra: Brow, Crown

Energy: Receptive

Element: Water

Deities: Bacchus, Dionysus, Diana *
*(pagan, orgiastic 'rites' a la Bo Grove - and other 'groves'.....get my drift? -Suke)

Number: 7

Planets: Jupiter, Neptune

Powers: Dreams, overcoming alcoholism, healing, psychism, peace, love, protection against thieves, courage, happiness

Amethyst is a member of the crystal quartz or silica group, the most common mineral on our planet. Its crystal structure consists of corkscrewing chains of silicon tetrahedrons that often terminate in a six sided pyramid. The quartz’s corkscrew can be either left handed or right handed and in some very rare instances, it will turn both ways. A purple quartz, amethyst is steeped in ancient magic and lore. It is still just as popular today as it was thousands of years ago.

Amethyst was formed under a variety of conditions. In Brazil and Uruguay it formed in the gas cavities of lava flows (geodes). Agate geodes containing Amethyst can reach up to five feet in length and four feet wide.

In Canada, Russia and the US, Amethyst formed in pegmatites or in metamorphic rocks. In fact each locale where Amethyst is found, seems to produce a slightly different crystal. In Thunder Bay Canada, Port Arthur Amethyst forms in a flat hexagon with alternating purple and clear Quartz sections. In Vera Cruz Mexico Amethyst forms over clear Quartz phantoms, often in double terminations.

Heat treating Amethyst will change it from purple to brown or yellow, and many Citrines on the market are created this way. Amethyst from one particular mine in Brazil will turn green when heated. It is marked under the name of prasiolite. (Although this is actually the name of an entirely different mineral.

The history of Amethyst is as ancient and dusty as the burial crypts of early Egypt and Babylon. Archeologists have recovered documents that were sealed and the dead adorned with Amethyst.

snip

The magical and spiritual qualities of amethyst have been valued and known for centuries. Among Spiritualists, they believe that this stone aids bringing the divine into the more mundane aspects of life, helping the soul feel more grounded. The amethyst is set in the Fisherman's ring worn by the Pope. It is mentioned in Exodus as one of the twelve sacred stones worn on the High Priest Aaron's breastplate in the bible.******

In Ancient Egypt, Ambassadors carried amethyst scarabs with them when traveling abroad. It was believed that the scarabs would help them see past illusions and protect from treachery. The Persians believed that amethyst had the power to keep locusts away. In fortune-telling, amethyst foretells changes or transitions. Or it can suggest that such changes are the answer to a problem.

snip

rest at:

http://www.wiccaspirit.net/v1is4/index_pg9.htm

...and of course, the shape of the geode said it all before I even looked anywhere else lol - obelisk - male phallus a la Baal/Osiris...and according to Tom Horn - Osiris is Hiram Abiff as re-enacted in the 'rites' of the dying and rising 'god'...

The award ceremony at the National Federalist Movement is a tiny tip of an enormous iceberg imo and we only have to read Pike's Three World Wars or the Protocols to have confirmation of this ongoing/tyrannical/despotic agenda...
They might be offering an end to war and a more peaceful way of life but a lock-down fascist dictatorship end to war, no thanks!!

The Amethyst is mentioned in a couple of places in The Bible - which, if Ray Hagin is right, just MIGHT what 'they' are hoping to build in the 'end times' for themselves id the 'New Jerusalem' or 'Zion'...:

Revelation 21: 19-20

19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2021;&version=9;

and then there's one of my favourite passages which describes the 'fall of Lucifer' and how beautiful he/she once was - but it doesn't directly mention the Amethyst....:

Ezekiel 28: 13-18

"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee."

...and this one:

Isaiah 14: 12-15

12"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2028;&version=9;

And then on my daily drop-by, something positive. I was rewarded with the video of the talk John Harris gave at the last 'Lawful Rebellion' conference I went to in June - it's as enjoyable and informative as I remember on the day.

Great work John, THANK YOU for all you do and for the information you've shared that has furthered my search for Truth in so many ways and given me an even more interesting and positive life!!

John Harris It's an Illusion 2
Friends Meeting House, London 13th june 2009

http://www.tpuc.org/content/john-harris-its-illusion-2-bcg-conference

Right, I'm off to the (council - privately run of course) gym for an hour or so to keep my physical body as fit as I can to fight the ongoing spiritual battle!

Love, Suke

sukyspook

20-07-2009, 04:28 PM

This weeks 'Shocktalk' from Cloak host Lenny Bloom and Mrs Steele which contains many interesting snippets (patience is a virtue regarding presentation!!) especially about the 40th Anniversary of the "moon landing" and MJ and his 'moonwalk' etc, Beatles catalogue/music mind control etc etc:

July 16 09 Shocktalk w Bloom and Steele - America’s Lasts Days: US Bully Bows to Saudi King.

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13373/shock_talk_2009-07j-16.mp3

http://showstalker.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson-fans-11.jpg

Consider that announcement at the Apollo and the fact that we are "celebrating" the 40th anniversary of man's 'first moon landing and MOON WALK' via APOLLO 11

"Taking us by surprise, they force us to pay attention. Better late than never. By that time it's nothing but a big all 'X marking the spot', a guaranteed treasure-trove of hidden knowledge. You start digging and you shall find treasure. It's in effect a timegate through which the past and the future leak into the present, into our conscious awareness. That's one way to look at it in any case."

I used to read Goro Adachi's site daily back in 2002/3 but then it all got a bit much for me.....however, this page 'The Moonwalker Prophecy' is well worth a look if you have the time and inclination!:

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/moonwalker.htm

I wholeheartedly agree with the above comment that "they force us to pay attention" - and what do you do with a naughty child when they incessantly demand your attention and won't stop till they get it? IGNORE THEM!!

Whilst we must be ever mindful about what 'they' want from us ie to steer us in their direction to create their 'new world order'/one-world government, we must not give more than a cursory glance and then ignore the deeper aspects of their attention seeking, thus denying them our energy/power which they have tricked us into giving them until we wake up fully....and of course we must expose 'them' as they can only continue their evil 'under cover of darkness' ie in the absence of the light of Truth. (you always see dirt when the sun shines on it....same thing imo - I don't worship the sun of course lol).

The discussion about the moon landing (or not) and the old moonwalker himself continue in this week's 'Space' show with Gary 'The Spaceman' Bell which you'll have to download yourself I'm afraid as I don't know how to pass on a play/link, sorry - I usually use the Mediafire download which I rarely have problems with - I'm only 1/3 of the way through and it's VERY intense:

July 18 09

TOPIC: Apollo 11 (40th anniversary)

TIME: 3:19:00

SIZE: 34.2 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?zicj1go4v1n
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GH8MMEBF

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/628922618a5399aa/

The subject of 'mind manipulation through music' continued on to an article by Dr Dennis Cuddy this morning mentioning The Beatles, Stones and others etc. Little did I know at the time of the release of 'Aquarius' by The Fifth Dimension that I'd be reading this 40 years - 40 YEARS! later and know what I know about the 'real world' !!

CONDITIONING BY MUSIC
PART 1

By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
July 13, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

snip

Aquarius by the Fifth Dimension

"When the moon is in the seventh house,
And Jupiter aligns with Mars,
Then peace will guide the planets,
And love will steer the stars.
This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius!
Harmony and understanding,
Sympathy and trust abounding,
No more falsehoods or derision,
Golden living dreams of visions,
Mystic crystal revelation,
And the mind’s true liberation."

snip

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis159.htm

and then there was this one!! Awesome!

The Global Warming Hoax
Posted Monday, July 13, 2009, at 1:09 PM

"Isn't it interesting how all our problems seem to be global these days. A global war on terrorism, a global economic crisis, the need for a global currency, global trade, global health concerns, global warming, etc.

It's almost as if someone is pushing for a one-world government, with a one-world monetary system, a one-world police force, a one-world set of rules and a population of obedient worker bees to keep the whole economic engine going at full throttle.

Except for the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, Pindar, powerful international bankers, Skull and Bones, global elitist power brokers, the Military-Industrial Complex, the CIA, the KGB, the Federal Reserve, the international Communist conspiracy, the Knights of Malta, the Club of Rome, the 13 ruling families of the Illuminati (Rothschild, Bruce, Cavendish, De Medici, Hanover, Hapsburg, Krupp, Plantagenet, Rockefeller, Romanov, Sinclair, Warburg, Windsor) and the ghost of Adam Weishaupt, I can't imagine who would have a motive to create a one-world government and slither their way to the top of the pyramid of power to rule the world.

Global problems, such as global warming, require global solutions.

However, global warming is a myth, perpetrated by various factions that seek to control planet Earth and carried out by the fools who fall for such blatant nonsense."

snip

rest at:

http://www.areawidenews.com/blogs/1215/entry/28640/

...and if you've got time to go a bit further down the rabbit hole:

Space/Gods; Mars; Moonshots and Masonry
by Christopher Knowles (author of "Our Gods Wear Spandex")

"OK, I've got a lot of ground to cover here - I'm going to try to cover some of the weirdness aspects of Apollo 11, as well as all of the varying theories and controversies over it. But I did want to hit this story. Some have claimed that the reason we've not returned to the Moon is that there are alien bases there, and we've been warned off. Sounds crazy, some might say."

snip

"How many of you think that the selection of Plymouth for this Mars Summit was coincidental? Yeah, me neither. Bonus factoid: Aleister Crowley was brought up in the Plymouth Brethren, who also brought us the Rapture craze and Dispensationalism.

Speaking of which, apparently for some "For some, the first Moon landing in 1969 was “almost a religious experience”

Forty years later, Debbie Rogers of Hingham vividly recalls the thrill of watching the Apollo 11 moon landing on July 20, 1969 – and not just because one of the astronauts, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, was a friend.

“It was almost a religious experience,” Rogers said this week."

snip

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/07/spacegods-mars-moonshots-and-masonry.html

One last thing for now:

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/UPC/UPC004/pss46003.jpg

Images of wind turbines keep popping up in my 'mind's eye' along with the phrase "Prince of the Power of the Air"...
Are these turbines some kind of homage to that 'Prince' ready for his impending return (or so 'they' believe) which is why so many of them have to be erected in such haste all over the world?

IMO they are a bluddy eyesore and are NOT in 'harmony' with nature and by many accounts - they're not that efficient. Just because something's big doesn't mean it's much use!! As those of us who 'know' realise, it's not what you see that's important - it's what you DON'T see that's usually what matters!

sukyspook

21-07-2009, 07:59 PM

Treatsville once more - a more subdued but nonetheless educational and informative TIM RIFAT - YAYYYYYY!!

July 20 09 Rense with Tim Rifat – The N w o Derails**

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_072009_hr1.mp3

also from last night:

July 20 09 Rense w Jay Weidner the Great Apollo Landing Hoax

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_072009_hr2.mp3

Never mind the Rifat 'salesmanship' on his website- READ AND LISTEN and make up your mind for 'nowt' = no-thing = no-charge......

**

"Anti-Satanist Bank of England Bone Generator™

The Rothschild Illuminati Satanists took over the Bank of England in reward for funding William of Orange's takeover of England after the Illuminati puppet Oliver Cromwell died. As a privately owned central bank the Rothschilds have run Britain since then but money control has just been the tip of the iceberg.

Not only did the Rothschilds want to control money but they wanted to dump the karma on the public in return for getting the keys to heaven. Having your cake and eating it. One can see that the Archons could not build their heaven Aeons without the Rothschild's Bank of England to steel the heaven power from the wageslave. Only a Psi-Lord like Tim Rifat could design a Bone Generator™ to sequester the power to print an IOU for anything you want, get the wageslaves to pay for it, dump the karmic debt for your evil excess on the wageslave and in return get their power to enter true heaven, use this power to make an evil simulacrum of heaven called the 7 Heaven Aeons Psi-Prison, then get the wageslave to make your Demons for you, instead of angels, a reverse of their 12 psychic powers, then get them to give you power over their fate, in return you give them your fate to burn in hell, so escaping (or so you thought - read Anti-Satan Service) the debt you accrued by your evil excess. Now to wrap this up in the Bank of England , to make it one giant Satanic engine for the Rothschild Illuminati is Satanic genius, Psi-Lord Ltd thanks the Rothschilds for their hard work now takes over all their occult power allowing them to work their infrastructure for Tim Rifat's benefit.

To expand, The Bank of England is in Threadneedle Street. This is to sequester Christ's Law that a rich man (the Rothschilds...) has as much chance of entering the Kingdom of Heaven as the chance of threading a camel through the eye of a needle. One can see the Bank of England as a Satanic Quantum Engine to evade this law by taking Christ literally. Place the rich man's printing press (Bank of England) in Threadneedle Street to thread the needle. In occult law a camel has another name as a Babylonian Demon genre. If one wanted to pass a camel through the eye of the needles one would divide it into smaller parts and expand the eye of the needle, both of which are done (many obelisks have holes in their tops, the £20 bank note has a large eye of the needle on the back) and every time a wageslave uses a £20 note she/he enables a Demon (camel) to go through the needle gateway. Using them on the back of the £20 note we have: "The division of labour in pin manufacturing (and the great increase in the quantity of work that resulted". Since the Zionist empire has conquered ancient Babylon (MOAB), it has now control over the Babylonian Demons subverted by Shekinah (Shock and Aure), the Satanist Spirit of Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth, so the Rothschilds have control over the camel ( (2 million Iraqis sacrificed to the camel). They use the wageslave to thread the camel by using their banknotes, then add the pin manufacturing Sigil. It is a famous saying that you can put 7 million angels on the head of a pin. So not only do the Rothschilds set up a trade the manufacture of 7 million angels fed by their Grace and reverse it to get the wageslaves to pay for the manufacture of 7 million more camels (Demons of the Babylonian ilk) for every £20 used (camel threaded through Threadneedle Street). The use of fractional reserve banking for stealing heaven from the slave and getting them to mass produce 7 million Demons per transaction. All the obelisks are Psychotronic, the obelisks... to control your fate, so the thread in the note is an occult Hyperinfinity transfer Sigil to enable the Rothschild Illuminati to control your fate - rule the West.

This Service is a get out of jail free card for the wageslave. For those of you who have bought the Anti-Dollar Illuminati Pyramid Service, it is Upgrade B giving you all the powers above to use simply by using your left to take and right to weave, give IOU's Bone Generators™ exactly as outlined above, a bargain for $200."

http://www.mindovermatter.ru/RVScience/supernaturalspirit/Jewish%20Tarot/Anti_Satanist_Bank_of_England_Bone_Generator.html

...and the origin of the blasphemous (imo) address of the 'Bank of England' - ie Threadneedle Street:

Matthew 19:24 (KJV)

24And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

THIS IS OUR COLLECTIVE 'ENEMY' - who need our pity and our....prayers

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

If you haven't already heard him, here's a chance to listen to Patrick Heron with Daniel Ott of www.theedgeam.com

July 18th, 2009

PATRICK HERON

Return of The Anti-Christ

"Patrick Heron was born in Dublin in 1952. When he was 24 years old, he had a "Saul on the road to Damascus" type of epiphany while reading the Bible. Thus began his Christian walk. He became interested in bible prophecy concerning the "end times" about 1996.

In 1997, his first book Apocalypse Soon was published and became a bestseller in Ireland. It entered the Irish bestsellers list after an interview with Gareth O'Callaghan, on RTE radio, who said he "read it in one sitting and was gripped." Another book Apocalypse 2000 was also a success.

There has recently been amazing interest to-date in this new book The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse, published by Xulon Press, which Patrick believes is the FIRST EVER book proving overwhelmingly who built the pyramids and why."

http://www.theedgeam.com/interviews/Patrick_Heron_07.18.09.mp3

and make a note - Steve Quayle will be live with Daniel next Saturday, 25th July at 2000 EST, about 0300 26th July GMT at:

http://www.theedgeam.com/

sukyspook

23-07-2009, 09:36 AM

Joan Veon - this is one of her best ever expose's of the Central Banksters who now virtually 'rule the world' (when are we going to stop it?):

RADIO INTERVIEW - KAJO Radio - Host: Scott Jorgenson

Joan Veon Discusses the Takeover of America
Veon explains how the central banks are taking over the world, creating a feudalistic system and a New World Order.

http://www.kajo.com/features/talk_shows/programs/kajo090715.mp3

These are Joan's archives at News with Views:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joanA.htm

Whilst at News with Views, check out Nancy Levant's archives - she is a REAL human being with the best interests of us all at heart and she writes beautifully imo:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancyA.htm

...and this is Joan's website:

www.womensgroup.org

...and here's one of my favourite articles from Joan:

SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, AGENDA 21 AND PRINCE CHARLES

By Joan Veon
August 13, 2004
NewsWithViews.com

"It has been ten years since I have been writing and studying the now established environmental philosophy of sustainable development. I was first confronted with it at the United Nations Conference on Population and Development-UNCED in Cairo, Egypt in 1994. Sustainable development was a core philosophy behind the Programme of Action called "Agenda 21" at the 1992 United Nations Conference on the Environment and Development-UNCED, now dubbed the "Rio Earth Summit."

In Rio, conference Secretary-General Maurice Strong stated,

Agenda 21 - still stands as the most comprehensive, most far-reaching and, if implemented, the most effective programme of international action ever sanctioned by the international community. It is not a final and complete action programme, but one which must continue to evolve.
Sustainable development has continued to evolve as that of protecting the world's resources while its true agenda is to control the world's resources. Communism also has control at its core and it also is evolving. I remember asking former UN Secretary-General Boutros-Boutros Ghali what he meant by "change" and he told me that he was introducing "constant change" as a way to continue the evolutionary processes begun in Rio.

Under the evolutionary process which Agenda 21 set in motion, sustainable development has become like a prism. Every time you turn it, you get a different "color." The sustainable development prism includes the social, political, economic and environmental factors. Until Rio, the phrase sustainable development had not appeared in any prior UN documents, papers or reference books.

It should be noted that Agenda 21 sets up the global infrastructure needed to manage, count, and control all of the world's assets. Included are the forests, fresh water, agricultural lands, deserts, pastures, rangelands, farmers' fields, oceans and inland waterways, marine environment, marine life, cities, housing, sewer and solid wastes, methods of production, air, pollution, biotechnology-every aspect of living-farming, production and manufacturing, research and medicine, etc., along with you and I. Today everything is sustainable: sustainable water, sustainable forests, sustainable markets, sustainable agriculture, etc. "

snip

Joan is a great exposer of the 'Fabians' with which Zanuliebore are deeply entrenched.

I have a copy of Joan's book: "Prince Charles, The Sustainable Prince".

This is VERY interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NYBTkE1yQ

For what it's worth....Ben Fulford (real/fake??) was on Rense overnight but I couldn't listen live for some reason. I'll post a link from the members archive as soon as it's posted.

...and then there's the wonderful Eustace Mullins - listen carefully or you might miss something!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEIh4le0dcg

and here's his online book (with video i/v): "Murder by Injection" - people REALLY need to see/hear this right now:

http://www.whale.to/a/mullinsbk_m.html

....and finally (as they say on the "news") - I watched this 2+ hour workshop last night and I stopped in my tracks when they mentioned the "Great Cross at Hendaye" (see jay Weidner) and Fulcanelli (you know, Fulcanelli and his book "The Mystery of the Cathedrals" which I'd love to get my hands on). If you haven't watched Dan Burisch's i/v's at Project Camelot prior to the workshop, it might give you a better idea of what he and Marci are about - whatever the Truth really is, I found the workshop fascinating and want MORE!!!! (lol):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lU6ywyxknI

Love, Suke

judy101

23-07-2009, 04:38 PM

sukyspook

23-07-2009, 06:19 PM

David Icke has posted links to holodynamics - so he supports the concept.

Holodynamics claims to be a tool that can solve all problems known to the human experience. I'm pretty scientific, I'm hard to convince, there is very little I believe in these days but this is something I happen to believe is absolutely bang on the money - it is a tool that can help solve every problem known to the human experience.

The concept implies that you give the problem what it wants and it goes away. The logic to me is that what every problem you are experiencing - it's actually coming from you - it is your illusion so to speak. So by giving the problem what it wants, you are actually giving yourself something you want that you've been depriving yourself of.

With all due respect Judy - I won't be doing things Satan's way any time soon thanks very much!! If we don't 'pay' in this lifetime, I believe we WILL pay sometime/somewhere down the line....Knowing that my behaviour makes me, in one respect, the master of my destiny, then I am more than happy to live in harmony with nature and with my fellow human beings to be the best that I can be and 'live and let live' unless I'm forced to behave otherwise to defend my life or that of my family/friends. I WILL defend anyone who shares my outlook on life and lives for the good of everyone and NOT for the benefit of the relative few.

I've been to hell, I've crossed paths with evil and I've been trying to figure out what evil really wants so I can just give it to him/her.

What would make God kick the devil out of paradise? Did God make a judgement while he teaches us all to love our neighbors and our enemies? Isn't the devil God's enemy? Is God setting the example for us to follow and that is why we experience so many wars on this planet?

As I understand it, Lucifer was entrusted to be God's 'right hand man/woman/hermaphrodite' (or whatever) but became jealous and thought he could do things better..... We are still suffering from this same attitude today as Lucifer has amassed (they have chosen or been duped) a group of like-minded people to do things his/her way ie purely materialistic/selfish/greedy/powerful/lowest vibrational etc instead of naturally allowing humanity to become awake and spiritually aware to evolve - if that's how 'it is'...

So what does devil really want? He's watching God tell the entire universe to hate him, wouldn't you be a little pissed off if the entire universe hated you? Wouldn't you be a little pissed off if you made one mistake and you have to pay for that mistake for eternity? What good would you learn by being abandoned?

To me the devil wants to be loved and accepted just like the rest of us. There is good to be found in evil - it gives direction. the most painful experiencing we have is being lost. Frankly I"m more lost beleaving in God with so many different God's around all claiming I will go to hell if I don't believe in them. How can I believe in one God, when another God is going to make sure I end up in hell if I don't believe in them while I believe in another? God appears to be more confusing to me then the devil. I know what is right and what is wrong with the devil - he gives me direction which is something I can love the guy for.

Satan might want to be 'loved' but first he must realise that like his willing (and not so willing) servants - the 'synagogue of satan' or 'satan's little helpers' - the ego is his favourite tool. "Kill" that - the 'first born' in a way and we might get somewhere......

The potential for evil is in all of us. the potential for God like abilities is in all of us. this is the most unlikely place to find evil, yet some posts I read of filled with hate and anger - which to me is evil. I've been pissed off as hell myself when I experienced evil first hand and I know without doubt I had turned into the evil I hate so much simply because I was angry, frustrated and in a great deal of pain knowing there isn't one damn person on this planet who would help me.

Indeed, the potential for good and evil is within each of us - it's a choice we have to make - free will as most of us know. If your behaviour was negatively affecting millions of others and making their life hell, wouldn't YOU stop doing what was causing all the turmoil?? So why doesn't satan and his willing servants stop then?? It's their choice - they obviously love what they do!

it's an interesting way of looking of things, I"m interested in hearing other people's opinions.

I think the best thing we can do is to inform ourselves of all the strands of the Luciferian/Satanic agenda and CHOOSE how we live our life and hopefully live it in harmony with others and with nature.... This thread has become a kind of repository of info to hopefully do just that - prove that there really IS an agenda and I hope that the majority who visit will choose NOT to manifest it.

Yay!!! Somebody else realises this is not 'right'...THIS ISN'T RACIST - IT'S WRITTEN AS AN OBSERVATION PIECE BY A BLACK MAN ANYWAY...but we all know what he means - I even find myself talking/typing this way!!

What Part of Africa Did this Come From??
Dr. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.

'They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.

And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what ? ?

And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2??

Where were you when he was 12??

Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol??

And where is the father?? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up ?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from??

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap . .. . .
and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' – or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read.

We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks we have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

We cannot blame the white people any longer.'

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11127

end

Answer - imo - it came from the MANIPULATORS at the "Merry Christmas Institute" also known by the name of place in the West Country, UK called Tavistock - and similar 'think tanks' creating and engendering Luciferian/satanic CULTURAL PROGRAMMING (Crowley's "do what though will" Law of Thelema aka our WILL). It too is a choice but you have to know that it's a manipulation before you can solve it by NOT falling for it....and how many young people you know will willingly LISTEN to you trying to explain the scam of it all??? - (although I do believe there IS an awakening of our yoof too).

A week to the day late but nonetheless worth waiting for!
Conspiracy Cafe discusses MJ and other celeb deaths; swine flu jiggerypokery (my word); strange London cabby decapitation; and fire in London etc:

July 16 09 Conspiracy Café – Break the TV habit it’s all mind control:

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13407/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-16.mp3

sukyspook

23-07-2009, 07:56 PM

I just went to www.republicbroadcasting.com archives to get a couple of shows from the members archives to find that Alan Stang's archives are available for free in light of the fact that he sadly died earlier this week.

Here's the page that's been put up to access Alan's archives....when I read a similar description of Alan's death yesterday, my eyes filled with tears - I just read this page - tears again. Those of us who 'know', will understand and 'feel' the same when they read that comment... This isn't about waiting for Jesus The Christ to come and save us - it's far deeper within each one of us than that, if we're prepared to look and "ask".....:

Below is a message from Alan Stang’s son Jay:

"My mom said that right before he died, the heart and lung monitors were running perfectly, then he reached out his hands, smiled, then he was gone.
The heart and lung monitors stopped instantly.
The nurses said they had never seen anything like it.

We know and are comforted that he was reaching out to his savior, and that he is with Jesus right now.

I have set up an email address where people can send condolences or prayers. The address is: stangmemorial@hotmail.com. Also, if anyone wants to make a donation for my mom, my address is:

Jay Stang
13902 Florence Rd
Sugar Land, TX 77498

Thank you very much."

end

Alan's archives from 2008/9 are available for free for now, here:

http://republicbroadcasting.org/Stang/

May Alan rest in peace and may God The Creator (not His architect) watch over Alan's soul/spirit and his family.

This from another Rense regular, Devvy Kidd on Alan Stang:

IN MEMORIAM: A LION IS GONE

By: Devvy
July 20, 2009
© 2009 - NewsWithViews.com

"It is with great sadness that a dear friend and colleague, Alan Stang, passed away July 19, 2009 at the young age of 80.
Alan was unique. He was fearless. For Alan Stang, truth was paramount.

Alan recognized decades ago that political correctness was one of the most idious tools of the ruling elite class. He fought it with all the ferocity of a lion. His voice stood out as a beacon for freedom and liberty through truth and knowledge. No icon was off limits for Alan. He played no favorites. In his eyes and heart, all men are created equal and no one is above the law."

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd456.htm

Here's the promised Rense mp3 with Ben Fulford from last night:

July 22 09 Jeff Rense with Benjamin Fulford re World Economic Crisis:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_072209_hr3.mp3

judy101

23-07-2009, 08:57 PM

I think the best thing we can do is to inform ourselves of all the strands of the Luciferian/Satanic agenda and CHOOSE how we live our life and hopefully live it in harmony with others and with nature.... This thread has become a kind of repository of info to hopefully do just that - prove that there really IS an agenda and I hope that the majority who visit will choose NOT to manifest it.

Yay!!! Somebody else realises this is not 'right'...THIS ISN'T RACIST - IT'S WRITTEN AS AN OBSERVATION PIECE BY A BLACK MAN ANYWAY...but we all know what he means - I even find myself talking/typing this way!!

What Part of Africa Did this Come From??
Dr. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.

'They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.

And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what ? ?

And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2??

Where were you when he was 12??

Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol??

And where is the father?? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up ?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from??

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap . .. . .
and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' – or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read.

We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks we have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

We cannot blame the white people any longer.'

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11127

end

Answer - imo - it came from the MANIPULATORS at the "Merry Christmas Institute" also known by the name of place in the West Country, UK called Tavistock - and similar 'think tanks' creating and engendering Luciferian/satanic CULTURAL PROGRAMMING (Crowley's "do what though will" Law of Thelema aka our WILL). It too is a choice but you have to know that it's a manipulation before you can solve it by NOT falling for it....and how many young people you know will willingly LISTEN to you trying to explain the scam of it all??? - (although I do believe there IS an awakening of our yoof too).

A week to the day late but nonetheless worth waiting for!
Conspiracy Cafe discusses MJ and other celeb deaths; swine flu jiggerypokery (my word); strange London cabby decapitation; and fire in London etc:

July 16 09 Conspiracy Café – Break the TV habit it’s all mind control:

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13407/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-16.mp3

you sound well educated on the Lucifer subject, where I am fairly knew to it. Now when I look at people I use to judge like mothers who have 10 kids from 10 different fathers I don't judge them anymore because I understand the game that is played on them. 10 different lucifers playing their games planting their seeds so the women look bad when it's the men who pleased themselves, said what they wanted to get what they wanted then skipped out on their responsibilities. Who I use to think was evil and wrong is actually the side that wants good and the nice GOD LOVING, GOOD CHRISTIANS appear to be the one's to fear most.

Education is an interesting subject as well. If you want to screw up a global economy get a university degree. If you want to keep people sick, become a doctor. My kids learn't more about technology and morals out of school then they did in school so is school actually a good thing? From my perspective everything evil that was done to me, if I went to a doctor they will give me pills to block out the recognition of evil so I"ll be fooled again. If I get counseling they will council me to accept everything that is wrong so I can live a peaceful life.

who is the evil one's and who is not? I'm having a very hard time figuring it out. Both sides of war feel they are right, so which one is evil if all sides truly believe they are right? There appears to be a great deal going on that we don't know. If I can't tell who is evil or which action is evil should I be judging? Maybe I'll be the one wrong and causing others harm and I won't know it.

tyler

24-07-2009, 01:10 AM

Thanks Suke.
I may have a copy of The Mysteries of the Cathedrals. I have read it. I can borrow a copy from the Lucis Trust library. Yes, I've been a member of that Alice Bailey library for thirty years!
Have you been to Chartres?
I'm staring at a book on my shelves as I type.....Mont St.Michel and Chartres by Henry Adams.

coco

24-07-2009, 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=judy101;1140836]you sound well educated on the Lucifer subject, where I am fairly knew to it. Now when I look at people I use to judge like mothers who have 10 kids from 10 different fathers I don't judge them anymore because I understand the game that is played on them. 10 different lucifers playing their games planting their seeds so the women look bad when it's the men who pleased themselves, said what they wanted to get what they wanted then skipped out on their responsibilities. Who I use to think was evil and wrong is actually the side that wants good and the nice GOD LOVING, GOOD CHRISTIANS appear to be the one's to fear most.[QUOTE]

I hear what you're saying and I do not want this fine thread to venture off into an argument or anything negative or women's reproductive issues or man hating or planned pregnancy or unplanned. I think we can agree it needs to continue its current, good flow.

But...

Yes, such women are taken advantage of by their own free will. That must sound confusing and contradictory but what I'm getting at is the women have a responsibility also. I agree we should not be cruel to these women but they also shunned their responsibility, they also got what they wanted: a short moment of companionship and pleasure. They also continued to woo and speak what was wanted to be heard to gain a goal.

And it is a sad commentary that some people in this world think they can only achieve the delights of companionship and love through brief, sexual interludes that are ultimately empty and then disposed of conveniently. One then blames the other. One gender then blames the other.

I also agree that if a man makes a woman pregnant he should assume the role of a father. When a woman has children she should assume the role of a mother. They should assume the roles of parents. There is responsibility on both parts.

I know it's not a perfect world and I'm not trying to paint the picture of a cute house with a picket fence and grandma baking pies but I am only speaking about some people in this world, when offered the opportunity to think about what they are about to do, step into, initiate - no matter what it is - think about the impact of their actions, cause and effect. The impacts of instant or temporal gratification can be long lasting, regretful, haunting.

I guess what I'm getting at is personal responsibility. Rising above what everybody else is doing because that's what they're doing. Our Divine Creator does not make junk. He gave us the responsibility of free will and choices.

Suki's Bill Cosby post can apply to black, white or purple people; man or woman.

My darling, after reading your recent posts I hope you find Peace. I hope so many of us do.

amethyst

24-07-2009, 02:37 AM

Hi Tyler and glad you're still finding the posts useful.....but OUCH - careful what you say about the forum lol!! You might get us both thrown off!

For me, this is a useful thread to send someone to who has an inkling that there's something 'not quite right' with the world but just can't 'see' it.....I'm convinced by it any way lol!

The death of Walter Cronkite yesterday prompted the usual scan for info about his real agenda....and I wasn't disappointed! These people have an external 'persona' that masks their real agenda - it doesn't matter what colour/religion/sex/political party they belong to, if they are of a complicit mindset to that we know as Satanic/Luciferian, then that is the agenda that takes precedence over any loyalty to a way of living that can be perceived as 'good' and in the interests of all 'right-thinking human beings'....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA

I had to watch it twice and prevent my eyeballs from falling out of their sockets lol.

The 'award' is in the form of an 'Amethyst Geode' and here's just a snippet from a website that told me all I need to know......:

Amethyst

Astrological: Aquarius, Gemini

Chakra: Brow, Crown

Energy: Receptive

Element: Water

Deities: Bacchus, Dionysus, Diana *
*(pagan, orgiastic 'rites' a la Bo Grove - and other 'groves'.....get my drift? -Suke)

Number: 7

Planets: Jupiter, Neptune

Powers: Dreams, overcoming alcoholism, healing, psychism, peace, love, protection against thieves, courage, happiness

Amethyst is a member of the crystal quartz or silica group, the most common mineral on our planet. Its crystal structure consists of corkscrewing chains of silicon tetrahedrons that often terminate in a six sided pyramid. The quartz’s corkscrew can be either left handed or right handed and in some very rare instances, it will turn both ways. A purple quartz, amethyst is steeped in ancient magic and lore. It is still just as popular today as it was thousands of years ago.

Amethyst was formed under a variety of conditions. In Brazil and Uruguay it formed in the gas cavities of lava flows (geodes). Agate geodes containing Amethyst can reach up to five feet in length and four feet wide.

In Canada, Russia and the US, Amethyst formed in pegmatites or in metamorphic rocks. In fact each locale where Amethyst is found, seems to produce a slightly different crystal. In Thunder Bay Canada, Port Arthur Amethyst forms in a flat hexagon with alternating purple and clear Quartz sections. In Vera Cruz Mexico Amethyst forms over clear Quartz phantoms, often in double terminations.

Heat treating Amethyst will change it from purple to brown or yellow, and many Citrines on the market are created this way. Amethyst from one particular mine in Brazil will turn green when heated. It is marked under the name of prasiolite. (Although this is actually the name of an entirely different mineral.

The history of Amethyst is as ancient and dusty as the burial crypts of early Egypt and Babylon. Archeologists have recovered documents that were sealed and the dead adorned with Amethyst.

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The magical and spiritual qualities of amethyst have been valued and known for centuries. Among Spiritualists, they believe that this stone aids bringing the divine into the more mundane aspects of life, helping the soul feel more grounded. The amethyst is set in the Fisherman's ring worn by the Pope. It is mentioned in Exodus as one of the twelve sacred stones worn on the High Priest Aaron's breastplate in the bible.******

In Ancient Egypt, Ambassadors carried amethyst scarabs with them when traveling abroad. It was believed that the scarabs would help them see past illusions and protect from treachery. The Persians believed that amethyst had the power to keep locusts away. In fortune-telling, amethyst foretells changes or transitions. Or it can suggest that such changes are the answer to a problem.

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rest at:

http://www.wiccaspirit.net/v1is4/index_pg9.htm

...and of course, the shape of the geode said it all before I even looked anywhere else lol - obelisk - male phallus a la Baal/Osiris...and according to Tom Horn - Osiris is Hiram Abiff as re-enacted in the 'rites' of the dying and rising 'god'...

The award ceremony at the National Federalist Movement is a tiny tip of an enormous iceberg imo and we only have to read Pike's Three World Wars or the Protocols to have confirmation of this ongoing/tyrannical/despotic agenda...
They might be offering an end to war and a more peaceful way of life but a lock-down fascist dictatorship end to war, no thanks!!

The Amethyst is mentioned in a couple of places in The Bible - which, if Ray Hagin is right, just MIGHT what 'they' are hoping to build in the 'end times' for themselves id the 'New Jerusalem' or 'Zion'...:

Revelation 21: 19-20

19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2021;&version=9;

and then there's one of my favourite passages which describes the 'fall of Lucifer' and how beautiful he/she once was - but it doesn't directly mention the Amethyst....:

Ezekiel 28: 13-18

"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee."

...and this one:

Isaiah 14: 12-15

12"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2028;&version=9;

And then on my daily drop-by, something positive. I was rewarded with the video of the talk John Harris gave at the last 'Lawful Rebellion' conference I went to in June - it's as enjoyable and informative as I remember on the day.

Great work John, THANK YOU for all you do and for the information you've shared that has furthered my search for Truth in so many ways and given me an even more interesting and positive life!!

John Harris It's an Illusion 2
Friends Meeting House, London 13th june 2009

http://www.tpuc.org/content/john-harris-its-illusion-2-bcg-conference

Right, I'm off to the (council - privately run of course) gym for an hour or so to keep my physical body as fit as I can to fight the ongoing spiritual battle!

Love, Suke

Amethyst speaking....

TPTB down through history have ALWAYS done something like that suky....taking something good (like amethysts ;) etc.) and using it for evil.

They do that for EVERYTHING God created because they don't know goodness or understand it and they don't know who God is.

When someone grows up with corruption continually in their life, where is their frame of reference for knowing about good? There is none.

Scripture says that God is good, but they can't comprehend that, having only grown up with corruption their whole life. It's ALL they know.

It take a daring person to think outside of the box and try to get to really know who God is.

It might blow their minds.

sukyspook

25-07-2009, 11:13 AM

Amethyst speaking....

TPTB down through history have ALWAYS done something like that suky....taking something good (like amethysts ;) etc.) and using it for evil.

They do that for EVERYTHING God created because they don't know goodness or understand it and they don't know who God is.

When someone grows up with corruption continually in their life, where is their frame of reference for knowing about good? There is none.

Scripture says that God is good, but they can't comprehend that, having only grown up with corruption their whole life. It's ALL they know.

It take a daring person to think outside of the box and try to get to really know who God is.

It might blow their minds.

I absolutely agree Amethyst when you said:

"TPTB down through history have ALWAYS done something like that suky....taking something good (like amethysts ;) etc.) and using it for evil."

...as clearly indicated in this Bible passage:

Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)

20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

WE have to KNOW that 'they' do this and once again, NOT fall into their trap. Satan/Lucifer can only imitate The Creation/Creator - as I've said before, there is NOTHING that 'they' can create from no-thing - 'they' can only use or manipulate what has already been created...I think this really p***es them off lol!!

Amethyst, there's a link to a video below which you may have seen but if not, I hope everyone who's sincerely interested enough in the subject can find/make the time to watch it as it fits perfectly with your comments - it 'dropped in' for me this morning after I wrote a note on my pad last night to remind me to write about Baron Samedi this morning....

WARNING - THE FOLLOWING IS ONLY MY 'TAKE' ON EVENTS AND ISN'T MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE - IT'S MEANT TO EXPOSE THE SATANIC/LUCIFERIAN RITUALS BEING CARRIED OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT - but only visible to those with 'eyes to see and ears to hear'.
It's our choice - to be tricked into these rituals or to awaken and say NO. But WE are the ones that create our 'reality' via these tricks and manipulations.

Baron Samedi

Knowing who/what Baron Samedi is, I am offended by the sight of an 'undertaker' carrying a top hat and cane, leading a procession of black hearses carrying the remains of dead servicepeople from Afghanistan and Iraq through the streets of Wootton Bassett and subsequently through the home towns of these sadly, usually young people...

I too am greatly saddened by the deaths 'in action' of these brave people and feel desperately sorry for the grieving families and friends. I won't discuss what I really feel about the "theatres of war" here and now.

I have also become suspicious of the amount of coverage that these sad occasions have received on lamestream TV and consequently by the whipping up of the fervour to support our troops and welcome them OPENLY ONTO THE STREETS...... (do you know where this might be going??). I, for one, will NOT be cheering and flagwaving for any troops anytime soon, even though I KNOW these boys are brave and THEY believe that what they are doing is for our 'security'......

Anyway, Baron Samedi. I've done quite a bit of research into Voodoo/VouDou and the Lwa/Gede = demons/spiritual entities/gods, which tie in with the demonic entities listed in Solomonic Goetia/Enochian Magick writings. IMO we're dealing with many facets of what could be seen as different aspects of spiritual or other dimensional 'entities'.

"Baron Samedi (Baron Saturday, also Baron Samdi, Bawon Samedi, or Bawon Sanmdi) is one of the loa of Haitian Vodou. Samedi is a loa of the dead, along with Baron's numerous other incarnations Baron Cimetière, Baron La Croix, and Baron Kriminel. He is the head of the Guédé family of Loa, or an aspect of them, or possibly their spiritual father. His wife is the loa Maman Brigitte. 'Samedi' means 'Saturday' in French, though there are alternate etymologies offered."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX3wGWHRlXQ

Hundreds Honour Dead UK Soldiers - PLEASE WATCH THIS AS IT'S THE MAIN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT I'M PROPOSING - click on the following link, video is playable from there, the main page, problem with embed link, sorry:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8134114.stm

NOTICE PRINCE CHARLES TURNS UP ONCE AGAIN.....hmmmm:

Do you recognise the Baron too???

Samedi = Saturday = Saturn's Day = Saturn = Satan - by leading the dead soldiers, Satan is saying to me anyway - "I did this" - and yet the undertakers who are offering this VOODOO service probably haven't a clue what they're really doing.....

The following video is another awesome expose of just how real witchcraft/satanism really is and what we can do about it and as I previously wrote, I hadn't seen this video before until this morning.
Stephen Dollins, the ex-Satanist/guest mentions the film Halloween at 54' - today is July 25th NOT Halloween but - I caught the closing credits of "Halloween R....." on TV in the early hours of this morning!!!!!!
Talk about Divine inspiration - well, that's how I see timings like this anyway!!:

Enjoy away!!! (please!)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3553879445882834497&ei=18JqSvT6H5So-Aaiz-1c&q=Stephen+Dollins+Prophecy+Club

NOTE THAT THE 'BARON'S' WIFE IS BRIGITTE/BRIDGET - and think about all those 'suicides' in BRIGEND....

St. Brigid of Ireland

(Incorrectly known as BRIDGET).

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"where under a large oak tree she erected her subsequently famous Convent of Cill-Dara, that is, "the church of the oak" (now Kildare)"

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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02784b.htm

Then there's:

The Goddess Brid

"Bridget, also called Brigantia, Brigit, Bhride, Bride, and Brid, was the beloved Goddess of the Celtic people. She was called the "Triple Bridget" as one of her aspects ruled poetry, writing, and inspiration, another one ruled healing, herbolgy, and midwifery, and the third aspect ruled the fires of the hearth, and of the smith, and the arts of smithcraft.

At her shrine at Kildare, there was kept a perpetual flame by 19 of her Priestesses. Later, after the Christianization of Ireland, this same flame was tended by the nuns of the Abbey at Kildare, when Bridget became Saint Bridget. These nuns kept themselves totally aloof from men, and even had food and supplies brought to them from women in the nearby village."

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http://www.ladybridget.com/brid.html

WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS as they say....

novymir

25-07-2009, 02:24 PM

Say, sukyspook, what do you know about an "egregore"?

Have you seen this video? Or the maker's website? I would be interested in your opinion of it:
"What in the World is Going On"
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6226036544608625413

http://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/

novymir

27-07-2009, 06:19 AM

...posted in a different thread:

Thought in of itself is not harmful. A 3D illusory reality is not necessarily "insane" nor does it have to mean disconnection from awareness . This Creation was not "created" by a "demonic" entity, the original purpose and intent has been interferred with by a demonic entity. Wisdom is the result of life experience. "They/It" does not control all of our thoughts.
Bryan gives "them" too much credit, and the premise of a "demonic creation" is a dangerous concept.
Individualized Life is not something that is a curse.

Without thought there is no imagination, without imagination there is no creativity. Creativity is the result of Love and Thought. Corruption is the result of polarity, the result of separation from the True Creative Spirit of LOVE-FORGIVENESS-LIFE=TRUTH. That which conflicts with IT is Error.

So, I reject the fundamental premise of Bryan's proposition-- that being this was an "evil" creation. Nope. There was a time before numbers and written words, before the interferrence, manipulation, and introduction of dualism/polarity. We were free then, in a 3D reality, not bound by it's apparent limits, because we Knew, we were aware. We were free to come and go, we were free to create. They took advantage of us, and our creativity. As they are doing today.

They messed with the DNA of the Life on Earth, modified our brains and destroyed the paradise that was so they could reign above us. They imposed the "food-chain", which is a reflection of their predatory/parasitic mind-set. Maybe it was a mistake or accident, denied, rationalized, compounded to the point of insanity. It controls them, but not everything here. Most certainly not.

I Know this because it's been communicated to me, by THAT which they know nothing about anymore. Though they fear IT.
And I have seen the so-called "Demiurge", or "Egregore" that Bryan speaks of, I Know what It is, and I Know what ails It, there is also something larger paying attention to It NOW too. The unpredictable, immeasurable, The True Creative One.
It is going to end, but not how they think.

sukyspook

27-07-2009, 10:19 AM

Hi Novymir and apologies for not getting back sooner - it's been a hectic weekend and my soul is feeling a little 'out of sorts'. Sometimes, when I don't know what or how to say something......it's safer to say nothing!

I've read a lot of IlluminatiMatrix and there's a massive amount of info I agree with...however, the latest page I read a couple of week ago stretched even my imagination somewhat!

I loved your post this morning (below) and have inserted my replies, for what they're worth, within. We're obviously on the same 'page'!!

...posted in a different thread:

Thought in of itself is not harmful. A 3D illusory reality is not necessarily "insane" nor does it have to mean disconnection from awareness . This Creation was not "created" by a "demonic" entity, the original purpose and intent has been interferred with by a demonic entity. Wisdom is the result of life experience. "They/It" does not control all of our thoughts.
Bryan gives "them" too much credit, and the premise of a "demonic creation" is a dangerous concept.
Individualized Life is not something that is a curse.

As I don't yet truly 'know' who/what/how this reality was created, ie whether we have been tricked here; chose to come here etc etc and by whom/what - I still don't know. This search will continue, I guess, for the rest of my time on this 'plane'.
However, I believe everything is potential and an awakened mind/heart/soul discovers a 'vibration' within that 'fits' with the vibration/frequency of Creation....for me - that sits comfortably with me so that I can be at peace in my heart, in my life, in the world and with Creation....however 'they' are at us 24/7 to disrupt that 'vibration' as 'they' and their complicit and ignorant (as in un-'knowing' slaves) only recognise/function in the 'material' and its potential - ie war; sadness; hatred; greed; misery; DEATH - with a few moments of 'peace' but their agenda is, in my humble opinion, to retain their hold on our purely material aspect and prevent us from raising our own inner and consequently, outer vibrations in 'the collective' as in the 100th monkey syndrome as opposed to an 'egregore' hive-mind.

Without thought there is no imagination, without imagination there is no creativity. Creativity is the result of Love and Thought. Corruption is the result of polarity, the result of separation from the True Creative Spirit of LOVE-FORGIVENESS-LIFE=TRUTH. That which conflicts with IT is Error.

There's nothing further I can add to that - it's perfect.

So, I reject the fundamental premise of Bryan's proposition-- that being this was an "evil" creation. Nope. There was a time before numbers and written words, before the interferrence, manipulation, and introduction of dualism/polarity. We were free then, in a 3D reality, not bound by it's apparent limits, because we Knew, we were aware. We were free to come and go, we were free to create. They took advantage of us, and our creativity. As they are doing today.

As said, I'm still looking for the proof of 'how we got here' so my mind remains open to all possibilities - however, I 'know' what's right and wrong....for me anyway.....and there are many things wrong with the way this world is being run/manipulated....

They messed with the DNA of the Life on Earth, modified our brains and destroyed the paradise that was so they could reign above us. They imposed the "food-chain", which is a reflection of their predatory/parasitic mind-set. Maybe it was a mistake or accident, denied, rationalized, compounded to the point of insanity. It controls them, but not everything here. Most certainly not.

I've been watching a video series over the past few days - the link is below - it's another awesome view (imo) of just what's been done to humanity and this planet - in particular the manipulation of our DNA.

I Know this because it's been communicated to me, by THAT which they know nothing about anymore. Though they fear IT.
And I have seen the so-called "Demiurge", or "Egregore" that Bryan speaks of, I Know what It is, and I Know what ails It, there is also something larger paying attention to It NOW too. The unpredictable, immeasurable, The True Creative One.
It is going to end, but not how they think.

I know 'they' fear humanity's potential when it begins to recognise Truth and the scams that have been perpetuated upon it for aeons. We must stand our ground in Truth for a truly better world for everyone and not just manifest the 'reality' of fear we're manipulated into to enable 'them' to control this 'reality'. I believe it really is up to us individually and consequently, collectively.

As said, I've been intermittently watching this amazing and looooong series with Bobby Hemmitt who before now I'd never heard of. However, I watched a series on the same lines earlier this year and have been looking for the link - I'll keep looking and post it when I find it.

I have somewhat mixed feelings about the Hemmitt series but it's compulsive and encompasses much of what I've been researching since 2002. I'm aware of Khem (meaning black) as Egypt - from where we get the word 'alchemy' - but am surprised at the different 'take' on various 'characters' (not the right word lol) and their 'function' according to Bobby.

Anyway, give it a whirl - stick with it as I've physically had to stop it 3 times as I was so shocked by certain pieces of info! I'm up to p24:

WARNING - THESE VIDEOS CONTAIN A LOT OF SWEARING - BUT THEY ARE VERY ENTERTAINING AS WELL AS INFORMATIVE!

Black Mystical Agenda, Bobby Hemmitt p1 (of lots!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEZwNsg-CBI

...and here's this week's Gary 'The Spaceman' Bell's latest prog:

July 25 09

TOPIC: solar eclipses in 2009, panspermia, the age of Aquarius, NASA missions leading up to Apollo 13...

TIME: 3:00:12

SIZE: 31 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?nznmmmzhmyy
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GLAR5TQC

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/63167723527d4cb6/

HEY, SOMEONE ELSE FINALLY REALISES THE NATIONAL FORCES ARBORETUM AS A 'SINISTER' PLACE!!

Sinister Sites – National Memorial and Arboretum, U.K.
Jul 24th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports

Police and military memorials are probably the most occult monuments you can find. Considered to be the largest Memorial built since WWII, the National Memorial in Staffordshire, U.K. is totally built on Masonic and Illuminati principles. Does this structure commemorate fallen soldiers or does it celebrate their ritual sacrifice? The symbols say it all.

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http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1566

That's an excellent expose!

novymir

27-07-2009, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the reply sukyspook, I appreciate your insight. I'll take a look at those videos.
I think it's revealing that the word they invented to describe the purpose and meaning of "life"; to "live", is reversed into the word "evil". Kind of a blatant expression of what they want us to "believe" and what they themselves may feel. Like a "Freudian-slip", maybe.

amethyst

27-07-2009, 09:23 PM

novymir wrote:
They messed with the DNA of the Life on Earth, modified our brains and destroyed the paradise that was so they could reign above us. They imposed the "food-chain", which is a reflection of their predatory/parasitic mind-set.

I don't believe 'they' messed with everyone's DNA. That's what "they' would like us to believe, but I do not think it's accurate. Yes, some have been manipulated but not all society has been manipulated.

the LIE is, they want everyone to think they are our creators and they are not.

I'm sure they wolud like to be our creators, but not everyone was "messed with' and the one's who can see the illusion we are in are probably the ones they want to get rid of because we expose the LIES that "they' try to promote.

amethyst

27-07-2009, 09:29 PM

Sukyspook wrote:
WE have to KNOW that 'they' do this and once again, NOT fall into their trap. Satan/Lucifer can only imitate The Creation/Creator - as I've said before, there is NOTHING that 'they' can create from no-thing - 'they' can only use or manipulate what has already been created...I think this really p***es them off lol!!

That's right. Nothing "originated" with him (Satan/Lucifer)....he's just the "great pretender"...... a big fat copycat of the Creator who created him.

He even tells us in songs" "Listen, I'm the great pretender" LOL

At least he's not lieing when he says things such as this...and yeah, his spirit does 'speak" through modern media....it's his favorite form of manipulation.

sukyspook

28-07-2009, 12:48 PM

Sukyspook wrote:

That's right. Nothing "originated" with him (Satan/Lucifer)....he's just the "great pretender"...... a big fat copycat of the Creator who created him.

He even tells us in songs" "Listen, I'm the great pretender" LOL

At least he's not lieing when he says things such as this...and yeah, his spirit does 'speak" through modern media....it's his favorite form of manipulation.

........having been on p24 for 2 days and not managed to get beyond 30" in lol, the timing of the topic/characters (?) in this part of Bobby Hemmit's series is extremely timely to say the least!!

If you watch no other part - do watch this 'take' on what we've just been talking about - ie who 'manipulated' 'us' and this planet - (presumably called 'Earth' after Ea/Enki -Suke).....remember it's just Bobby's 'take' but he's mentioning all the relevant names.....:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUwZ5greTGY&NR=1

Incidentally, why IS our amazing planet simply called after 'dirt' ie EARTH????....I often contemplate that - amongst a gazillion other thoughts that constantly drift in and our of my awareness.

I haven't listened to any yet but there's an awesome library of mp3's featuring Bobby Hemmitt here if you're interested. I'm going to listen to his 'take' on Michael Jackson later - not that I was ever a fan but I was always curious as to why he went from black to white and ultimately to looking like Peter pan and living in Neverland:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rss/tag/bobby-hemmitt.rss

FUNNY HOW I'M BACK AT GOOD OLD SIRIUS!!

- oh dear, what have I come up with now.....I can't get past 2' on this vid at the moment but this looks like something we should at least be aware of:

http://www.youtube.com/user/NeptuneZealand

'Operation Panther's Claw' ended today in Afghanistan......
I like to see what the troops say on this squaddies forum - here's a thread about that particular operation:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=126353.html

...and here's the announcement in the UK lamestream media:

PM signals end to 'Panther's Claw'

Yesterday, 12:22 pm
Press Assoc.

"Gordon Brown (groan - suke) has signalled the end of the bloody offensive to drive back the Taliban in Afghanistan. Skip related content

The Prime Minister insisted that Operation Panther's Claw had not been "in vain", despite the deaths of 20 British troops over the past month.

"The efforts of our troops in Helmand have been nothing short of heroic," Mr Brown told the Evening Standard.

"There has been a tragic human cost. But this has not been in vain." Mr Brown said it was now time to "commemorate" the British troops who have died in Afghanistan.

During a constituency visit in Fife, the Prime Minister said it has been "one of the most difficult summers" since troops went into Afghanistan.

He said: "Now that Operation Panther's Claw has shown that it can bring success and the first phase of that operation is over, it's time to commemorate all those soldiers who have given their lives and to thank all our British forces for the determination and professionalism and courage that they've shown.

"What we have actually done is make land secure for about 100,000 people. What we've done is push back the Taliban - and what we've done also is to start to break that chain of terror that links the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan to the streets of Britain.

"And I'm very proud of what our forces have achieved over the last few weeks - indeed for all the time they've been in Afghanistan."

The first stage of the operation in the troubled southern province drew to a close as senior ministers urged the stepping up of efforts to engage moderate Taliban elements.

Foreign Secretary David Miliband said the insurgency was "divided", with many of those fighting against international forces doing so for "pragmatic" rather than ideological reasons."

WILL THIS MEAN THAT THE MARIONETTES WILL STOP SAYING THE WORD 'SACRIFICE' IN EVERY SOUND BITE?? - interesting that we're now into the 'Dog Days' of summer - as in Sirius the Dog Star. I know I'm probably warped and twisted but I can't help thinking that the 'Panther's Claw' sacrifices were dedicated to said star/energies/entities/whatever - or is it just plain old Isis??

sukyspook

29-07-2009, 10:42 AM

novymir

29-07-2009, 10:36 PM

WOW!

I don't think the ego and the chaos (!) it creates could be explained any more simply than in the following video, new to me this morning at www.tpuc.org - THANK YOU JOHN AND EVERYONE INVOLVED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWRSuS0Q9o

JUST SAY TO YOUR EGO: GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN.

Those who want to 'rule the world' do so from the pov of 'the PERSON', the legal fiction/strawman/corporate fiction that is based upon the EGO and seek to manipulate us all into manifesting their version of 'reality' - a purely materialistic based reality - and it's over imo...as by their greed they have consumed themselves but enough of us 'get it' to stop it consuming us as well.

What a wonderful time to be 'alive' - whatever that really means lol!!

Yep. It is a demon, a parasite. It's the result of trauma. Real or perceived. The experience is the same.
This is what ails "them" and to a lesser degree Us:

http://www.goddirect.org/mindemtn/writings/january/toxshame.htm
Toxic Shame
by
Leo Booth/John Bradshaw

Abuse creates toxic shame - the feeling of being flawed and diminished and never measuring up. Toxic shame feels much worse than guilt. With guilt, you've done something wrong; but you can repair that - you can do something about it. With toxic shame there's something wrong with you and there's nothing you can do about it; you are inadequate and defective. Toxic shame is the core of the wounded child. This meditation sums up the ways that the wonderful child got wounded. The loss of your I AMness is spiritual bankruptcy. The wonder child is abandoned and all alone.

My Name Is Toxic Shame

I was there at your conception
In the epinephrine of your mother's shame
You felt me in the fluid of your mother's womb
I came upon you before you could speak
Before you understood
Before you had any way of knowing
I came upon you when you were learning to walk
When you were unprotected and exposed
When you were vulnerable and needy
Before you had any boundaries
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I came upon you when you were magical
Before you could know I was there
I severed your soul
I pierced you to the core
I brought you feelings of being flawed and defective
I brought you feelings of distrust, ugliness, stupidity, doubt
worthlessness, inferiority, and unworthiness
I made you feel different
I told you there was something wrong with you
I soiled your Godlikeness
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I existed before conscience
Before guilt
Before morality
I am the master emotion
I am the internal voice that whispers words of condemnation
I am the internal shudder that courses through you without any
mental preparation
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I live in secrecy
In the deep moist banks of darkness
depression and despair
Always I sneak up on you I catch you off guard I come through
the back door
Uninvited unwanted
The first to arrive
I was there at the beginning of time
With Father Adam, Mother Eve
Brother Cain
I was at the Tower of Babel the Slaughter of the Innocents
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I come from "shameless" caretakers, abandonment, ridicule,
abuse, neglect - perfectionistic systems
I am empowered by the shocking intensity of a parent's rage
The cruel remarks of siblings
The jeering humiliation of other children
The awkward reflection in the mirrors
The touch that feels icky and frightening
The slap, the pinch, the jerk that ruptures trust
I am intensified by
A racist, sexist culture
The righteous condemnation of religious bigots
The fears and pressures of schooling
The hypocrisy of politicians
The multigenerational shame of dysfunctional
family systems
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I can transform a woman person, a Jewish person, a black
person, a gay person, an oriental person, a precious child into
A bitch, a kike, a nigger, a bull dyke, a faggot, a chink, a selfish
little bastard
I bring pain that is chronic
A pain that will not go away
I am the hunter that stalks you night and day
Every day everywhere
I have no boundaries
You try to hide from me
But you cannot
Because I live inside of you
I make you feel hopeless
Like there is no way out
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

My pain is so unbearable that you must pass me on to others
through control, perfectionism, contempt, criticism, blame,
envy, judgment, power, and rage
My pain is so intense
You must cover me up with addictions, rigid roles, reenactment,
and unconscious ego defenses.
My pain is so intense
That you must numb out and no longer feel me.
I convinced you that I am gone - that I do not exist -
you experience absence and emptiness.
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

I am the core of co-dependency
I am spiritual bankruptcy
The logic of absurdity
The repetition compulsion
I am crime, violence, incest, rape
I am the voracious hole that fuels all addictions
I am instability and lust
I am Ahaverus the Wandering Jew, Wagner's Flying Dutchman,
Dostoyevski's underground man, Kierkegaard's seducer,
Goethe's Faust
I twist who you are into what you do and have
I murder your soul and you pass me on for generations
MY NAME IS TOXIC SHAME

The more immersed in it, the more impossible it seems to come back, out of it. They think they've crossed the line of no return... but it's NOT True!! That means, "them", we should pity "them". Not condemn them. Try by example and Being, to make it easier for them. They can come back, to real Freedom and Love. But of course, one needs to face it first. It's not about blame, it's about awareness, giving up the denial. It's never too late. They and we will see.

sukyspook

30-07-2009, 02:49 PM

Woah Novymir, that's one awesome, deep piece of writing - pretty much sums it all up eh.....thanks for posting - I'll keep it on hand and pass on when appropriate.

Here's a treat for yez, our old friend Timmy Rifat - YAYYYYYY!!! with Jeff Rense from 28th July - a brilliant explanation (from Tim's pov) of how our sweat equity/monetized energy is transferred to 'them':

July 28 09 Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat – New world order

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_072809_hr1.mp3

and a week late - not my fault honestly - I check for the shows but sometimes they don't appear until the following Tuesday:

July 23 09
Cloak Shocktalk - OPERATION MOON LANDING HOAX: CLUES REVEALED IN THE SUCCESSFUL COVER-UP? -(a bit disjointed as usual but some good 'nuggets' within).

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13499/shock_talk_2009-07j-23.mp3

July 23 09 - Conspiracy Cafe: Beware the Grand Chessboard Queen

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13501/conspiracy_cafe_2009-07j-23.mp3

lizzy

30-07-2009, 08:37 PM

hi suky .:), thanks for the audios.......just listened to all 3.....i like Rifat best.....the other 2 bring up well known stuff but hold the vatican to blame.
( evil yes but not the top the heap these days)

lyghtkynge

31-07-2009, 05:09 PM

sukyspook

31-07-2009, 10:25 PM

The WORD was tranmitted to me over 7 nights & 7 days in the Mountains of Colorado, 1984, by a Naga (SS). I have posted much on this, but it leaves eveyone confused n cold, because the understanding of The WORD by humanity is Nil. Oh well.

But that's not what I am posting about here, just background on why you wouldn't be Aware of the Truth of what's going on.

Satan-Lucifer are not a PAIR. Anyone who thinks that, doesn't comprehend The WORD. They work As Opposites, try to grasp that Truth (oh well):
On Top: Lucifer-Christos
On bottom: Satan-Jehovih.
(The Yin-Yang...look at it, try to Understand.)

Now, here are Your Earth/Sol Solar System (& region) Rulers/Watchers/Eternals/Guardians-Jailers/Gardeners/Masters/Controllers:
The Melchizedeks, a Group of Ultra-Universal Reptilian-specie that have Invaded This Entire Warm-Blooded (Prime) Universe:

This is from personal spontaneous cosmic consciousness (3 days, age 17, decades ago, in the '60's), and verified by the Naga and via The WORD:

The are Cosmic Brain-Stem Parasites.

A little beyond your understanding, I suppose. Way too cosmic-horror, yes?

Oh well, carry-on, enjoy your conversation. Truth hurts, and though it sets you free, this freedom, for most, is Death (there is no death,. merely two cycles, one Action, the other Rest). It takes lifetimes to be able to endure Truth, much less Understand it.

Humanity is a SlaveRace, regardless how the Matrix appears.

Some are being directed into 'ascending' into Their New Womb (careful, slaverace); other's will be discarded as recyclable excretum, others will Escape. Which do you choose? better Grasp Truth, and use a Hotpad, please, for Truth Burns.

G'day.

"A little beyond your understanding, I suppose. Way too cosmic-horror, yes?"

I don't think so Lyghtkynge - and I don't think you truly mean that for one minute - I don't think you'd waste your time if you thought I/we weren't taking any notice.

Like I said a few posts ago, when I don't know what to say.....I find it best to say nothing and after reading your post I especially didn't know how to reply. Then I popped in to 'Everything is OK' channel on youtube and Charlie said it for me, posted this very day - perfect timing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LMfG-X6rWg

With the best will in the world, I can't ever share your very personal experiences Lyghtkynge - I can only read what you and others say and share what I'm finding and being drawn towards so that we might all share, learn and understand together.

I know we're in a battle of cosmic proportions and there are many, many "myths", legends and versions of 'history' that describe similar 'events'.

I intend to keep on looking, listening, watching and reading as much as I can and endeavouring to hold the highest vibrations in my heart and which Charlie talks about too: Truth and Love.

Love and peace to all

lyghtkynge

31-07-2009, 11:49 PM

@ suki -

OK, I understand. My main thrust was to indicate, via a little visualization (the yin-yang symbol) as help, that the Lucifer symbolism is not synonymous with a/the Satan figure, which everybody just rash, unknowingly assumes. It isn't just you, but very many people in general. I think I pointed the way to better insight, if one cares to look (make the sincere effort).

The Lucifer Factor is BOTH Principle & Form, including multilayered embodiment, depending of the point-view of any given observer. It is critical to understand, but it lost in a mass of confusion and lack of Certain Knowledge, which may be attained via Soul Discernment. Each to their own. I'm not griping, for you cannot change people, only point to the trough from which they may drink (of the Waters of Wisdom).

I am often misunderstood, my fault. I wish I could be clearer, but things get more metaphorical when dealing with the Archetypes.

I, indeed, think this thread is fabulous with it's shared wisdom, truly awesome.

Anyway, where is the 'quote' of synchronicity that you were going to post? It's missing. Please post it, so I can enjoy your synchroncity experience. And thanks for your kind thoughts and understanding.

sukyspook

01-08-2009, 11:17 AM

Good morning Lyghtkynge and other friends.

I've posted my replies within your thoughtful post Lyghtkynge:

@ suki -

OK, I understand. My main thrust was to indicate, via a little visualization (the yin-yang symbol) as help, that the Lucifer symbolism is not synonymous with a/the Satan figure, which everybody just rash, unknowingly assumes. It isn't just you, but very many people in general. I think I pointed the way to better insight, if one cares to look (make the sincere effort).

You insight remains 'on the table' Lyghtkynge and your experiences are, indeed fascinating. It's amazing how prevalent the serpent and the winged symbols/eagle/phoenix is/are in all versions of 'how we got to here'....

I continue to 'dip into' all stories/myths/legends/esoteric/occult histories in my search for the ultimate Truth of how we 'got to here' and how humanity has been 'had' and continues to be exploited from cradle to grave until we awaken spiritually.

A classic case of humans wishing to be 'one up' on others was from another, what I thought was a fellow 'seeker' after the truth, who said that he wouldn't tell me what he knew as it was up to me to find out.....I dropped off that particular radar for good as that attitude is distinctly unhelpful and smacks of pretence rather than knowing and sharing personal discoveries...as it happens, I remembered what he was dangling like a carrot - I knew it all the time but only realised afterwards.

What I have discovered for myself, I offer for everyone - like yourself Lyghtkynge - but it's up to each individual to run with or to leave alone, that information.
I make a promise to you that in this coming week I will return to your posts and spend more time there.

The Lucifer Factor is BOTH Principle & Form, including multilayered embodiment, depending of the point-view of any given observer. It is critical to understand, but it lost in a mass of confusion and lack of Certain Knowledge, which may be attained via Soul Discernment. Each to their own. I'm not griping, for you cannot change people, only point to the trough from which they may drink (of the Waters of Wisdom).

I'm a great believer in 'soul discernment' but our soul has to be of the highest vibration or we may manifest the very thing we wish to overcome....that's the tricky part - AND REQUIRES MUCH EFFORT TO REMAIN FOCUSSED AND CENTRED - like the 'yin-yang' symbol - balanced. 'They' make 'their' way sound very plausable - I sometimes wonder if I've 'fallen' into their trap as their manipulations are so similar to being 'in sync' with Creation/Creator - as I 'see' (or is that 'feel') it! You have to hand it to them, 'they' have all the exits covered!

I am often misunderstood, my fault. I wish I could be clearer, but things get more metaphorical when dealing with the Archetypes.

Like me, I think you probably get carried away by your enthusiasm!!! Better to be like that than to pretend that our 'reality' (I call it our 'predicament'!) is how things are "meant to be" and do nothing for ourselves, our families, friends and our fellow human beings....

I, indeed, think this thread is fabulous with it's shared wisdom, truly awesome.

Anyway, where is the 'quote' of synchronicity that you were going to post? It's missing. Please post it, so I can enjoy your synchroncity experience. And thanks for your kind thoughts and understanding.

I've enjoyed posting here too and I hope this thread is a great resource for anyone who sincerely questions our 'reality'.

First the video was there.....then it wasn't.....here it is again. I love these guys who even put a smile on the faces of normally stony-faced passengers on the Tube!!:

Why I make the videos - by Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LMfG-X6rWg

The 'Everything is OK' channel page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch

Later I hope to be able to post a Rense mp3 - update lol - I just checked on Rense for the interviewee's name and lo and behold, the page has been updated and the mp3 link added within the last 5 minutes!:

July 31 09 - Dr John De Salvo on The Lost Art of Enochian Magic:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_073109_hr1.mp3

I'm just listening to this mp3 from Jeff with Adrian Salbuchi discussing current events/nwo and in particular 'swine flu'/'pandemics' - which I think is an interesting word in itself lol!!

From 30 July 2009: a 2 x part mp3 from Jeff Rense with Adrian Salbuchi on "How World Government will Come About":

Part 1

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_073009_hr1.mp3

Part 2

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Jul2009/3ew1v8/rense_073009_hr2.mp3

Love and peace, Suke

sukyspook

01-08-2009, 08:03 PM

No need for any words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIxILQaZwUI

breezinreezin

01-08-2009, 11:44 PM

No need for any words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIxILQaZwUI

This is a bit of a rambling post as I'm finding it hard to organise my ideas right now.

There is no doubting Obamas Marxist leanings, but it is wrong, in my opinion, to call him a communist and more accurate to call him a communitarian. Even the Godfather of communitarianism, Amitai Etzioni says so: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/obama-the-second-half_b_102903.html

There was no bloody revolt, what has transpired has been cultural revolution. Commies became backdoor men and inveilged themselves into the very fabric of society at levels that they can be most influential. It's all been discussed on this forum many times. The steering group was the Frankfurt School, an elite group of Jewish, Marxist intellectuals, who got together to reframe the fight. They wove Marxist/Hegelian ideas into the very fabric of society, setting up oppositional forces and cultural counterbalances to the status quo, in order to unsettle and perturb western societies to the point that the ideas of a New World Order could be introduced without resistance. The New World Order being the fruit of the revolution, the revolution being high sorcery.

I don't want to keep going over old ground, so I'm going to be a bit cryptic and ask the question: 'how does the snake make progress? Here's how:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEto1-ZTbd4Now the clue here is the Hegelian dialectic--the synthesis of two seemingly, opposing positions. Niki Raapana, who's video I've inset, believes that Hegel, the guiding light for Marx, was clearly influenced by the Kabbalah, and there is evidence that that was so. How much so, is not clear to me. I need to follow this lead a bit further, because there is an interesting article: http://www.newkabbalah.com/hegel.html

We need to stop thinking in terms of communism v capitalism, that's old news. TPTB moved on a long while back and we need to catch up. Communitarianism is the only deal in town at the moment. The clues are everywhere for those that want to look.

Here's are some good articles as a primers: http://www.friesian.com/rights.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/News/communitarianism.html

Niki Raapana is pretty much as expert as anyone can be on Communitarianism. She outlines it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPW5rC-chDU

lyghtkynge

02-08-2009, 05:04 AM

First the video was there.....then it wasn't.....here it is again. I love these guys who even put a smile on the faces of normally stony-faced passengers on the Tube!!:

Why I make the videos - by Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LMfG-X6rWg

Ha, ol' Charlie could put a smile on almost anyone's face: he's got a persuasive optimism behind his eyes, readily delivered in his words. You can only say so much, and that vid was worldwide (like universal, only smaller).

But, I fear for the confusion in mankind. Lack of Knowing The WORD permits the proliferation of Error, as Opposed to Knowing The WORD, which emanates/accumulates Truth.

The Big Stick doesn't help, just cowers those in Error down even worse.
That's why it takes so many Lifetimes to Reach The Foot of The Mountain, and then more, to develop Courage For The Climb Upwards.

Anyway, enjoyed your post immensely. Now, let me ask you a question, Suky, and see what you think about it:

This is about Satan-Jehovih ~ Lucifer-Christos:

Is the Human Body Evil, Therefore Ugly? May I say, hmmm?

Before you answer, let me add a Dash of Truth for Insight, please:

The Body IS the Unconscious Generate.
(You Are A Universe.)

sukyspook

02-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Ha, ol' Charlie could put a smile on almost anyone's face: he's got a persuasive optimism behind his eyes, readily delivered in his words. You can only say so much, and that vid was worldwide (like universal, only smaller).

But, I fear for the confusion in mankind. Lack of Knowing The WORD permits the proliferation of Error, as Opposed to Knowing The WORD, which emanates/accumulates Truth.

The Big Stick doesn't help, just cowers those in Error down even worse.
That's why it takes so many Lifetimes to Reach The Foot of The Mountain, and then more, to develop Courage For The Climb Upwards.

Anyway, enjoyed your post immensely. Now, let me ask you a question, Suky, and see what you think about it:

This is about Satan-Jehovih ~ Lucifer-Christos:

Is the Human Body Evil, Therefore Ugly? May I say, hmmm?

Before you answer, let me add a Dash of Truth for Insight, please:

The Body IS the Unconscious Generate.
(You Are A Universe.)

Morning!

I'm about to go off to the gym to exercise my 'vessel/vehicle' - note: I am NOT my vessel.

I, for one, have never been 'in love' with my body/vehicle. I've struggled all my life with weight problems but haven't let it really get me down as I know the body is only half the story.....

However, those who wish to 'rule the material world', in the main, have manipulated us into merely concentrating on our bodies which, due to gender; colour; size etc etc is 'their' most successful part of their modus operandi of 'divide and conquer'.

Under the 'veil' of the skin we could quite well be the same 'soul/spirit' but indwelling many and varied looking vehicles, thus manifesting our personal realities through what we perceive in the mirror and hence, judging others who also experience the same 'mirror experience' - dare I say 'optical illusion'?

I watch very little lamestream TV but somehow I've managed to catch the same BBC report from Hollywood (as in magic wands - the 'magic of holly wood') which is about the latest money-spinning tool of manipulation - the 3D film.
Of course, nothing 'they' do is ever really new, it's just a re-jig of what already exists in Creation. Likewise Spencer Kelly's simple explanation of how 3D films are made - 2 x slightly different camera angles merged together which is how our bodies' eyes work to feed the image we're looking at through the eyes/lenses into the brain which is where we really 'see' from (I'm sure I didn't need to explain all that as most of us here are already well aware of how the body basically works).

So along with the message of loads more ££££$$$ for the magicians of organisations such as GEORGE LUCAS' INDUSTRIAL LIGHT AND MAGIC, there's the explanation of how our own biological lenses work to enable us to perceive our surroundings - OR do our 'lenses' actually assist in tricking us that the world is truly 3D physical??

OR - DO WE TRULY LIVE IN A HOLOGRAM???

Lyghtkynge, you ask if the body is evil.....I believe that like everything else, it has/is dual purpose and it's the choice of the pilot/driver/captain of the vehicle to make that choice. In fact, our bodies are actually 'vessels' sailing on the seas of Maritime Admiralty/Fleet/Commercial/Corporate law - the vessel can't function in that 'law' without the co-operation of our soul/spirit which animates or gives life to the corpse - as in 'corporate' law...

So there are two explanations (from my pov) of how we see and how our bodies are used to exploit us from cradle to grave and how 'they' make a financial killing out of us, the 'cattle' (gollum/goyim) - no offence, it's written fact that many of 'them' call us 'goyim' - explaining why it's called the 'stock exchange' lolol!

Here's the BBC 3D film report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/default.stm

If you haven't already, do listen to the Red Ice/Makow mp3 I posted yesterday - whilst I don't agree with everything Henry says, I believe it to be one of the best explanations of our predicament and 'their' Luciferian/Satanic methods (unusually I didn't save the link - doh - but will post it next time I post when I've exercised my vessel!!!).

Lyghtkynge - if Jesus IS Lucifer...why do 'they' appear to fear the name Jesus Christ???

L & P
Suke

itsallinus

02-08-2009, 04:44 PM

lyghtkynge

02-08-2009, 05:45 PM

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Morning!

I'm about to go off to the gym to exercise my 'vessel/vehicle' - note: I am NOT my vessel.

Lyghtkynge - if Jesus IS Lucifer...why do 'they' appear to fear the name Jesus Christ???

L & P
Suke

OK, good effortful answer! And the common one (expected).

Don't think for a moment that I'm sitting here typing to polish my ego...I got over that in my teens; I'm nearing my 6th decade right now.

And don't think for a moment that my heart-mind-spirit isn't happy to see your Rayed level of discernment...without the Capstone. With-out.

Now, let's maintain sweet peace here (for a bit), and I'll just flat out (flat) explain the answer to the Question I asked you.

You are mostly wrong, regardless of the bright light of your insight. You are In the clutches of Their Programming, rather nicely!

How did poster itsallinus say it:
"there cannot be any depth or distance, it's all 2D... and I still can't quite get my head round it!!"

That's the Facts of the Earth Vehicle [Matter], the Divine-Child/Soul-Container.

Here is the Answer (which, be prepared to Reject Immediately, thanks!):

You Are Your Body.

Did you see that small little statement I placed at the end of my last post? That was the Answer.

Anybody who knows anything about The Phoenix would suspect this.

Death & ReBirth. Death?

You can't Kill It, only send it to a Quarantined Area of 'Nothingness-Seeming.'

Now, let me do this again for you (and all reading), one more time:

The Body IS the Unconscious Generate.

The Mother (of The Trinitial Divine Equation).

Then how can The Body Die? There is No Death. It is Limited to Generation, Until It Self-Achieves REALization...what is called the Denouement of Being-Presence, Re-Generation.

The Mother. The Generator. The Only 'IS' there Is. Period.

The Masculine (Father) is Illusion...Until the Denouement.

Then, Effortless Equi-Valency has Been Achieved:

Do you think the old motto: "I & the Father Are One" is Really the Truth?

Merely Half the Truth.

"I And The Mother Are One" (Sayeth the Daughter).

You don't see, but I cannot just put the Truth out there, for It is Sacred, and should not be placed before the Eyes of the Profane, for They will Tremble With Rage At Sight of IT.

I'll close this with a feeble hint:

The ARC of The Spark. S/He.

You Are A Universe. .... AllVerse.

The WORD Command (means the same, One is the Other):

Know ThySelf. See ThySelf.

So You create a Mirror In Which You May REALize This Self-Command.

All these Words are Flow From The WORD, and are not silly utterings/statements with ulterior designed intentions.

Take The Yin-Yang Symbol, please:

Lay It on It's Side (Rod):

Now, Remove The Top (the Projected I-Mage):

What Do You See?

Isn't S/He Beautiful?
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:cMMj0gOPuDXpqM::www.magicreef.co.nz/images

PS - There is no jc, only Christos. That is a pretty fairy tale, until The Light Can Be Viewed Without Burning.

"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."
~~~Dresden James

You have swallowed the Shiney Bait of The Lie. Spit it Out.

(S/He IS The REAL)

sukyspook

02-08-2009, 05:54 PM

Good post! In relation to how the 3D thing works, look at the telly, you see the images in 3D yet it is a flat screen image, how can it ever have any depth? Only our brains make it 3D same as what we 'see' from our eyes. Since time is no real and there is only now, and since everything is connected not separate (it's all in your brain) there cannot be any depth or distance, it's all 2D... and I still can't quite get my head round it!! :D

Glad you liked the post Itsallinus (I just love your name - it's so true!).

The more we 'know' or awaken to, the deeper the rabbit hole goes!

On the subject of our 'perceived reality' - here's a great video I stumbled upon this morning - stick with it into part 2 - he, Chris Hedges 'knows' and has managed to concentrate his mind long enough to produce a book (that's been my excuse for 4 years lol - how much longer can I get away with it before I'm rumbled!!!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0FL0m60Oo

...and believe it or not - this week's Shocktalk and Conspiracy Cafe mp3's were posted earlier today, along with last nights 'Spaceman' show from Gary (The Spaceman) Bell. I've only heard half of Conspiracy Cafe so far so I can't comment on the other two yet:

JULY 30 09
Shock Talk with Lenny Bloom and Mrs Steele:

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13575/shock_talk_2009-07j-30.mp3

July 30 09 Conspiracy Cafe with guest Timothy Spearman

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13574/conspiracy_caf_2009-07j-30.mp3

Here's Tim's website which, if you have a couple of hours to spare contains a wealth of fascinating info - Tim is unable to fund his own show at the moment which I used to listen to and very much enjoyed.

http://www.shakesaspear.com/

Here's 'Space' from last night, July 30 09:

TOPIC: Harry Potter...

TIME: 3:16:37

SIZE: 33.8 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?ik3ymmyygt0
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C7RNXP7X

STREAM LINKS: http://www.zshare.net/audio/63506262215d7f5d/

Here's the Red Ice mp3 with Henry Makow - there's a part 2 but I'm having trouble logging into the Members archives so until I hear back from Red Ice - we'll just have to wait patiently!!

Henrik i/v's Henry Makow - part 1 - July 16 09 (excellent mp3):

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090716-hmakow.mp3

Lizzy - sorry I didn't say Hi - so.....Hi!!! So glad your still popping in ;)

sukyspook

02-08-2009, 06:06 PM

OK, good effortful answer! And the common one (expected).

Don't think for a moment that I'm sitting here typing to polish my ego...I got over that in my teens; I'm nearing my 6th decade right now.

And don't think for a moment that my heart-mind-spirit isn't happy to see your Rayed level of discernment...without the Capstone. With-out.

Now, let's maintain sweet peace here (for a bit), and I'll just flat out (flat) explain the answer to the Question I asked you.

You are mostly wrong, regardless of the bright light of your insight. You are In the clutches of Their Programming, rather nicely!

How did poster itsallinus say it:
"there cannot be any depth or distance, it's all 2D... and I still can't quite get my head round it!!"

That's the Facts of the Earth Vehicle [Matter], the Divine-Child/Soul-Container.

Here is the Answer (which, be prepared to Reject Immediately, thanks!):

You Are Your Body.

Did you see that small little statement I placed at the end of my last post? That was the Answer.

Anybody who knows anything about The Phoenix would suspect this.

Death & ReBirth. Death?

You can't Kill It, only send it to a Quarantined Area of 'Nothingness-Seeming.'

Now, let me do this again for you (and all reading), one more time:

The Body IS the Unconscious Generate.

The Mother (of The Trinitial Divine Equation).

Then how can The Body Die? There is No Death. It is Limited to Generation, Until It Self-Achieves REALization...what is called the Denouement of Being-Presence, Re-Generation.

The Mother. The Generator. The Only 'IS' there Is. Period.

The Masculine (Father) is Illusion...Until the Denouement.

Then, Effortless Equi-Valency has Been Achieved:

Do you think the old motto: "I & the Father Are One" is Really the Truth?

Merely Half the Truth.

"I And The Mother Are One" (Sayeth the Daughter).

You don't see, but I cannot just put the Truth out there, for It is Sacred, and should not be placed before the Eyes of the Profane, for They will Tremble With Rage At Sight of IT.

I'll close this with a feeble hint:

The ARC of The Spark. S/He.

You Are A Universe. .... AllVerse.

The WORD Command (means the same, One is the Other):

Know ThySelf. See ThySelf.

So You create a Mirror In Which You May REALize This Self-Command.

All these Words are Flow From The WORD, and are not silly utterings/statements with ulterior designed intentions.

Take The Yin-Yang Symbol, please:

Lay It on It's Side (Rod):

Now, Remove The Top (the Projected I-Mage):

What Do You See?

Isn't S/He Beautiful?
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:cMMj0gOPuDXpqM::www.magicreef.co.nz/images

PS - There is no jc, only Christos. That is a pretty fairy tale, until The Light Can Be Viewed Without Burning.

"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."
~~~Dresden James

You have swallowed the Shiney Bait of The Lie. Spit it Out.

(S/He IS The REAL)

Oh my, as I was composing my last post - yours arrived! It's deep......I've read it and I'll read it again, and again......

One thing that bothers me and which I mentioned, kind of, a couple of posts back is this:

"You don't see, but I cannot just put the Truth out there, for It is Sacred, and should not be placed before the Eyes of the Profane, for They will Tremble With Rage At Sight of IT"

With all due respect....(and I too am in my 5th decade) - I view this statement as a kind of 'cop out'....I CAN TAKE IT - but the fact that this kind of info is withheld only makes me believe that those who 'know' wish to keep those who would like to 'know', in the dark so that they can be controlled....

lyghtkynge

02-08-2009, 08:06 PM

One thing that bothers me and which I mentioned, kind of, a couple of posts back is this:

"You don't see, but I cannot just put the Truth out there, for It is Sacred, and should not be placed before the Eyes of the Profane, for They will Tremble With Rage At Sight of IT"

With all due respect....(and I too am in my 5th decade) - I view this statement as a kind of 'cop out'....I CAN TAKE IT - but the fact that this kind of info is withheld only makes me believe that those who 'know' wish to keep those who would like to 'know', in the dark so that they can be controlled....

Let's be honest with each other, Suke. Not everything can be presented on a public forum, good intent, or not. It just doesn't work. That's why a number of people contact me via pm (PRIVATE message) and ask questions. I am in contact with a number of them, from all over the world, and many have remained in contact for quite awhile.

A post message is necessarily very limited.

I noted your earlier comments regarding 'revealing the Truth' for all to see, and how you approve of this. May I add this in my defense? The Light is Serpentine In Origin.

The Light IS Serpentine in Origin...Before It TranSmutes Into The Winged One.

Now, on ats, for no reason at all, a great section rose up against me because of the serpentine avatar I used, and the message. I calmly sat through it, and the Culprits admitted it was their own fault. It was quite a Battle, with many involved, not just myself; but I was the 'innocent instigator,' by bringing forth the Wisdom of The Serpents.

So I am cautious, perhaps overly so. And here you are, looking askance at vital info being purposefully withheld.

But you are Right, Suke, so right. And I am somewhat ashamed of this, but not overly so. Why?

Because It Must Be...As It Must Be. Truth can be Deadly...taking Lifetimes to learn to handle (It Burns, as said). Too little Truth/Light, and the cosmic plant shrivels and dies; too much Truth/Light, and the cosmic plant will burn and die. Sort of like the Sun and the Life on Earth, yes? I am Aware of what I Say and Do and Offer, because of This Truth/Light. see: Icarus.

Often, you may see my posts make mention that I offer further insight via private. Private? Is Nothing Private? Yes, do not Deny [this], or One may as well return to chaos. The Humanity of Earth is Not Yet Ready For All-Light. Not even After any given 'Ascension(s).' For Ascension Never Ends (EverAll), Only Continues Becoming...EverMoreAll.

So if I say, 'You don't See,' I certainly meant I would like to say more, for my Words inadequately expressed my meaning....sort of like 'On the Cusp' of Clarity, but just short. I have been attacked many times, because mankind is frightened to Death of The Serpent Wisdom, and I have had enough of this blind foolishness: After all, this is The Pilgrim's Journey...The Fool Traveling The Sacred Path To Reach Wisdom. Yes?

No 'cop out.' I do all I can, with the time I have, and often come out looking [a bit] insane.* Don Juan stated: "Everybody is quite mad; they jsut don't know it."
(*See my previous quoted by Dresden James.)

Truth has Always had Violent Opposition to It; you know this, yes? Later, after it's accepted, it seems 'normal' and 'commonplace.' Shall I mention some historic figures and revelations of Truth throughout Earth's human history? Unnecessary, for you know this, too.

I give all I dare. I have been resisted mightily by the hordes of the Herd, the masses of the common box-belief systems, and this will always be so, until a Greater Age may Dawn. You are working for this, as am I.

No 'cop out.' Read and understand my position.

And do not think they won't tremble with rage, they will. This is Their Earth, not yours, not mine; this is not even illusion, it is Obvious.

Btw, I quoted your 'soul discernment' comment in another post on another forum; a gal read it and quoted it, asying it was rich with Truth for her. I agree. It appears as though the Illusion is a perfect 'overlayment' upon Truth.

So, don't think I elevate myself. All good things are in hiding at this time, ready to Gather, and Stand Fast For The Light of The WORD, for it shall certainly be an Obvious Moment for All. I won't Hide any longer, nor will I Run.

This is bigger than Everybody Involved, Et, Ut, or Humanity. And, of course, the all too faulty 'gods.'

PS - If you would like a link to a battle I had right here on the Icke forum, just pm me for the link. The last two posts should expand your awareness considerably, closely allied with my previous post here (but which I decided not to add). Battles can be embarrassing, but The Dragon & The Vulture do it every second, non-stop (this is called Life/Existence): why should one hide in the closet because a savage bully is seen passing by? I don't.

Hope you understand this. Also, I never indoctrinate, cultify, charge, capture, take prisoners, insist, nor dominate; only share what I can of Invisible Truth. They keep Returning...for some reason?

sukyspook

03-08-2009, 10:08 AM

Morning!

Blimey! This is quite hard-hitting for the first article I'll read today!! With apologies to any Mormons - but it should be pretty obvious by now that every religion (and everything else come to that) is 'fair game' and whether we are a Jew; Catholic; JW; Muslim; Mormon - we are all merely 'used' to advance the ever morphing, generational Luciferian/Satanic - or whatever it really is - new world odour (cos it stinks) agenda.

Mitt Romney, The Illuminati and Plundering the Mormon Church

"First off. I am a Mormon. I joined the Church when I was 18 and in the Air Force; served a mission, married in the Temple etc. My nickname is "Brother Doctrine". The Illuminati hide behind our Church and every other Church and seek to control them through infiltration and huge financial donations. Their goal is to bring about one religion that worships "Lucifer" the fallen "Angel of Light" (only they claim he was cast out for sharing his "wisdom" with mankind). They also worship Satan and seek to harness the powers of evil through ritual sacrifice and mass murder (genocide).

Oh, one other thing. They hate Jesus Christ. They are the wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus Christ warned us about. He asked, "What man among you, if he discover a wolf among his sheep, will not drive him out. And if he can, slay him." Now, I personally wouldn't physically slay anybody. But, I hate wolves because they have hated me. I like to pull away the sheepskin so they can't eat any more sheep.

Which brings me to the unpleasant subject of Mitt Romney. Another so-called Mormon. I will now demonstrate that he is no friend to America or Mormonism."

Mitt Romney: CFR Member (Link)

"The goals of the CFR is best described by its very own members. Bill Clinton's Georgetown mentor and CFR member Carroll Quigley states: "The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one world rule established.". Quigley differs from many of his CFR colleagues in that he believes their plan for a new world order should be more publicly disclosed. In his book Tragedy and Hope, Quigley concedes he is unique among his peers in that he believes the new world order plan of global government's "role in history is significant enough to be known". Quigley also admits that the two-party system allows for both groups to be controlled at the highest level but operate like bitter rivals. As Quigley says, this gives the voters the chance to "throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound of extreme shifts in policy.". Controlling Washington elite allowed private central banks to " dominate the political system... ...and economy of world as a whole" and implement a new system of "feudalist fashion" through "secret agreements". Although he believes the CFR's intentions should be more public, Quigley understands the average person doesn't understand feudalism or serfdom and will never read his book."

snip

"Here's the thing. The Council of Foreign relations is the Illuminati shadow government for America. To be on the council you have to be "multi-generational illuminati". That means that you were a victim of ritual abuse and probably "mind programmed" using gemstone programming (reserved for the leadership level of the Illuminati). It also means high level involvement in Illuminati businesses including child pornography, child prostitution, arms smuggling, assassination, narcotics, false terrorism actions, and the sales of military secrets. This means you are a TRAITOR. Pure and simple.
It's quite a long article which you can read the rest of here:"

snip

Read the rest here:

http://deadmanmusings.blogspot.com/2009/08/mitt-romney-illuminati-and-plundering.html

....and here are some "peers" of Mitt Romney - this video was posted earlier in the thread but as it's an open, verbal confession of 'their' ongoing agenda, it's highly relevant considering the content of the above article - imo, of course!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA

I'll leave it at that for now!

cruise4

03-08-2009, 10:35 AM

I find your posts VERY interesting lyghtkynge, oftentimes just for the battle I have against unconcious impulse. Please do keep returning. You are like a V.A.T.

:D

sukyspook

03-08-2009, 01:04 PM

This is a bit of a rambling post as I'm finding it hard to organise my ideas right now.

There is no doubting Obamas Marxist leanings, but it is wrong, in my opinion, to call him a communist and more accurate to call him a communitarian. Even the Godfather of communitarianism, Amitai Etzioni says so: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/obama-the-second-half_b_102903.html

There was no bloody revolt, what has transpired has been cultural revolution. Commies became backdoor men and inveilged themselves into the very fabric of society at levels that they can be most influential. It's all been discussed on this forum many times. The steering group was the Frankfurt School, an elite group of Jewish, Marxist intellectuals, who got together to reframe the fight. They wove Marxist/Hegelian ideas into the very fabric of society, setting up oppositional forces and cultural counterbalances to the status quo, in order to unsettle and perturb western societies to the point that the ideas of a New World Order could be introduced without resistance. The New World Order being the fruit of the revolution, the revolution being high sorcery.

I don't want to keep going over old ground, so I'm going to be a bit cryptic and ask the question: 'how does the snake make progress? Here's how:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEto1-ZTbd4Now the clue here is the Hegelian dialectic--the synthesis of two seemingly, opposing positions. Niki Raapana, who's video I've inset, believes that Hegel, the guiding light for Marx, was clearly influenced by the Kabbalah, and there is evidence that that was so. How much so, is not clear to me. I need to follow this lead a bit further, because there is an interesting article: http://www.newkabbalah.com/hegel.html

We need to stop thinking in terms of communism v capitalism, that's old news. TPTB moved on a long while back and we need to catch up. Communitarianism is the only deal in town at the moment. The clues are everywhere for those that want to look.

Here's are some good articles as a primers: http://www.friesian.com/rights.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/News/communitarianism.html

Niki Raapana is pretty much as expert as anyone can be on Communitarianism. She outlines it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPW5rC-chDU

I apologise, Breezinreezin - I somehow managed to miss your excellent post above.
I know about Communitarianism and Nicki Rapaana from a couple of years back and it's good that you've brought her extremely insightful info to the thread.

I agree with you about Obamanation and Communism/Communitarianism - we could say that "Communitarianism is the new Communism"!

I'm reading the "Kabbalah and Hegel" article alongside several others (as always - I have a butterfly mind!!!) so thank you for that too.

I was interested in this statement from that article:

"For Hegel, the origin, substance, purpose and direction of the universe is the realization of an infinite knowledge, consciousness, or mind."
I'd go one step further and say: "......and usurp it in order to control it and everything in it - to become as, or replace The Creator".

I'll watch Nicki's video which I haven't seen - thank you for that too.

There's so much proof of this 'agenda' and we're highlighting the many 'fronts' on this thread - I'm lovin' it!

Here's another great article from another passionate Truther:

The Nexus Of Evil - Part 1
(A Pre-emptive Strike On Humanity)
By Philip Jones
8-2-9

http://www.rense.com/general86/jfjd.jpg

snip

"It became apparent that since the day I was born (1958), the reality of my very existence had been indirectly controlled and dictated by a conspiratorial group of super rich and powerful individuals, working behind the scenes, manipulating the events which shaped all our lives, creating chaos all around, causing reactions from the unsuspecting majority, which then in turn enabled them to advance their nefarious agenda, by responding with their `ready made` solutions. Solutions carefully designed to advance the imposition of a Global State.

By making diabolical use of the Hegelian Dialectic, these conspirators have slowly but surely brought us all to the point of no return. With the much vaunted and somehow expected `Swine Flu` epidemic acting as thesis, and the world wide mandated vaccination programme and the resulting mayhem as antithesis, the desired synthesis could well be the dialectical catalyst which inaugurates the Luciferians long held dream of a New World Order; Global solutions for global problems!"

snip

"What may come as a surprise to many reading this article, is that of those people here in Denmark, who responded positively to my writing, many were Muslim. Through these contacts, I was able to consolidate that knowledge of the Islamic faith, I had gained whilst working in London, and learned to further appreciate how the followers of that system of belief viewed the world around them. Of course, very many Muslims are, just like their counterparts in Christianity, oblivious to what is generally termed the `Global Conspiracy.` But I also found among them some very aware, knowledgeable and sincere
individuals who like myself, understood that there was serious trouble on the horizon[7].
The truth is that we have more in common than most realise, and they, (Muslims) like the rest of us, have been abused and manipulated, herded even, into situations which suit no one except the Illuminists".

snip

The rest is at:
http://www.rense.com/general86/nex.htm

THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT FRANKFURT....where the Rothschilds aka Bauer family lived on Judengasse..... Is it a "coincidence" that the 'Frankfurt School' is so called - I, for one, think not! I've read that 'Fagin' and his band of thieving scallywags including the 'Artful Dodger' (lol) is based upon life in the Judengasse!

Come to think of it, 'Oliver' could represent us - with his cute, innocent face and food bowl, begging: "can I have some more sir"? We know what the answer will always be with a particular mindset having infiltrated all facets of our lives - until now! The Shamir has turned!!!

sukyspook

03-08-2009, 09:41 PM

sukyspook

05-08-2009, 10:12 AM

"Tolerance" is a Guise for Social Engineering

August 4, 2009

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

(Revised, from April 27, 2007)

For centuries the Masonic central bankers who control Western society and culture have been pushing "tolerance." Why?

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a notorious "forgery" that uncannily explains our predicament. It says the Illuminati bankers want to "dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us." (Protocols, Section 5)

The four major collective forces are: Race, Religion, Family and Nation. They are the four pillars of our human identity.

How do you undermine them? Certainly a frontal attack would meet with spirited resistance. Instead you promote "tolerance" which destroys these collective forces by erasing the differences between them.

Thus you have ecumenicism in religion, miscegenation in race, and regionalism (i.e. EU, NAU) in nation states. You destroy family by erasing gender differences.

"Tolerance" (and "human rights") are Orwellian doublespeak for a process that demolishes the four pillars of human identity. Human beings are being re-engineered to be servants, cattle, "human resource" of the Cabalist bankers. We are being deliberately stunted and diverted as dysfunctional children who don't decide or do anything important but work, have sex and consume. Mankind is satanically possessed, hijacked by a Satanic cult.

snip

CONCLUSION

To understand our world, we must appreciate that we are frogs in a large pot, having our identities changed. Our "culture" -- the pot and the stove -- is largely contrived, i.e. it is social engineering. Only "approved" statements get mass distribution,

Mankind is being transformed to serve the Cabalist bankers. They want us to identify as consumers and producers only, and be amenable to guidance by "experts", like the APA.

"Tolerance" shames us into giving up our humanity. Let's resist by strengthening our identities: heterosexuality, nation, religion and race, respecting but not deferring to others. The real tolerance does not come from erasing differences but in upholding them, in loving others for their unique qualities, and being proud of our own.

Read the rest at:

http://www.savethemales.ca/

http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/08/Obama%20Joker%20Poster.jpg

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/01/obama-joker-poster-popping-los-angeles

rodin

05-08-2009, 01:18 PM

Let's be honest with each other, Suke. Not everything can be presented on a public forum, good intent, or not. It just doesn't work. That's why a number of people contact me via pm (PRIVATE message) and ask questions. I am in contact with a number of them, from all over the world, and many have remained in contact for quite awhile.

A post message is necessarily very limited.

I noted your earlier comments regarding 'revealing the Truth' for all to see, and how you approve of this. May I add this in my defense? The Light is Serpentine In Origin.

The Light IS Serpentine in Origin...Before It TranSmutes Into The Winged One.

Now, on ats, for no reason at all, a great section rose up against me because of the serpentine avatar I used, and the message. I calmly sat through it, and the Culprits admitted it was their own fault. It was quite a Battle, with many involved, not just myself; but I was the 'innocent instigator,' by bringing forth the Wisdom of The Serpents.

So I am cautious, perhaps overly so. And here you are, looking askance at vital info being purposefully withheld.

But you are Right, Suke, so right. And I am somewhat ashamed of this, but not overly so. Why?

Because It Must Be...As It Must Be. Truth can be Deadly...taking Lifetimes to learn to handle (It Burns, as said). Too little Truth/Light, and the cosmic plant shrivels and dies; too much Truth/Light, and the cosmic plant will burn and die. Sort of like the Sun and the Life on Earth, yes? I am Aware of what I Say and Do and Offer, because of This Truth/Light. see: Icarus.

Often, you may see my posts make mention that I offer further insight via private. Private? Is Nothing Private? Yes, do not Deny [this], or One may as well return to chaos. The Humanity of Earth is Not Yet Ready For All-Light. Not even After any given 'Ascension(s).' For Ascension Never Ends (EverAll), Only Continues Becoming...EverMoreAll.

So if I say, 'You don't See,' I certainly meant I would like to say more, for my Words inadequately expressed my meaning....sort of like 'On the Cusp' of Clarity, but just short. I have been attacked many times, because mankind is frightened to Death of The Serpent Wisdom, and I have had enough of this blind foolishness: After all, this is The Pilgrim's Journey...The Fool Traveling The Sacred Path To Reach Wisdom. Yes?

No 'cop out.' I do all I can, with the time I have, and often come out looking [a bit] insane.* Don Juan stated: "Everybody is quite mad; they jsut don't know it."
(*See my previous quoted by Dresden James.)

Truth has Always had Violent Opposition to It; you know this, yes? Later, after it's accepted, it seems 'normal' and 'commonplace.' Shall I mention some historic figures and revelations of Truth throughout Earth's human history? Unnecessary, for you know this, too.

I give all I dare. I have been resisted mightily by the hordes of the Herd, the masses of the common box-belief systems, and this will always be so, until a Greater Age may Dawn. You are working for this, as am I.

No 'cop out.' Read and understand my position.

And do not think they won't tremble with rage, they will. This is Their Earth, not yours, not mine; this is not even illusion, it is Obvious.

Btw, I quoted your 'soul discernment' comment in another post on another forum; a gal read it and quoted it, asying it was rich with Truth for her. I agree. It appears as though the Illusion is a perfect 'overlayment' upon Truth.

So, don't think I elevate myself. All good things are in hiding at this time, ready to Gather, and Stand Fast For The Light of The WORD, for it shall certainly be an Obvious Moment for All. I won't Hide any longer, nor will I Run.

This is bigger than Everybody Involved, Et, Ut, or Humanity. And, of course, the all too faulty 'gods.'

PS - If you would like a link to a battle I had right here on the Icke forum, just pm me for the link. The last two posts should expand your awareness considerably, closely allied with my previous post here (but which I decided not to add). Battles can be embarrassing, but The Dragon & The Vulture do it every second, non-stop (this is called Life/Existence): why should one hide in the closet because a savage bully is seen passing by? I don't.

Hope you understand this. Also, I never indoctrinate, cultify, charge, capture, take prisoners, insist, nor dominate; only share what I can of Invisible Truth. They keep Returning...for some reason?

Response to bold

Only that which need be kept secret or that which the Mods ban cannot be published. Secrecy is the mother of conspiracy.

Winged one? Please go on

Truth is in desperate shortage and you would dole it out piecemeal?

Methinks thou protesteth too much

edelweiss pirate

05-08-2009, 02:29 PM

At 46" into part 2 - I had to post these before I finished the part. Enjoy.

Demon Possession pt 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDAYQvdWc20&feature=channel

Demon Possession p2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKo7NGhL2bM&NR=1

Those guys ain't NO good for the peace of this planet.

Their rhetoric is just another Jihad waiting to hatch.

They're all against what they call 'the europeans'... I guess that means me baby!

Less division is what we need. These guys are just black racists.

Like indigenous black culture was ever peace loving and all wise. Horse shit. They invented slavery by selling their black tribal enemies into European hands.... Man what goofs! Angry one too, the worst kind. Probably CIA anyways...

There's a whole black movement against the Illuminati which is cool, but checking out the videos they are extending that nomenclature to anyone who is white.

More leaders more gangs more hate MORE SHITE!

Off-topic rant over.

sukyspook

05-08-2009, 03:24 PM

Response to bold

Only that which need be kept secret or that which the Mods ban cannot be published. Secrecy is the mother of conspiracy.

Winged one? Please go on

Truth is in desperate shortage and you would dole it out piecemeal?

Methinks thou protesteth too much

Ah Lyghtkynge - it's not just me that feels this way! ;) - I'm with you Rodin - but as I promised Lyghtkynge, I'll investigate his 'hints' (fwoabw) and see what transpires....

Those guys ain't NO good for the peace of this planet.

Their rhetoric is just another Jihad waiting to hatch.

They're all against what they call 'the europeans'... I guess that means me baby!

Less division is what we need. These guys are just black racists.

Like indigenous black culture was ever peace loving and all wise. Horse shit. They invented slavery by selling their black tribal enemies into European hands.... Man what goofs! Angry one too, the worst kind. Probably CIA anyways...

There's a whole black movement against the Illuminati which is cool, but checking out the videos they are extending that nomenclature to anyone who is white.

More leaders more gangs more hate MORE SHITE!

Off-topic rant over.

I know what you mean Rodin and I wondered if anyone would pick up on that potential 'angle'. I've only just discovered the black/Melanin outlook this past couple of weeks and as always, the info can be used in two ways - for good or ill.

I'm pretty sure that the 'Europeans' are basically the "Black Nobility" aka Venetians/Phoenicians (imo); Rothschilds; Vatican etc etc - I don't need to list them all I'm sure.

In particular, I'm most interested in the demonic angle which, in this short vid I listened to this morning - are "forms of our own inner self", according to Bobby Hemmitt from 5' 39" in particular. Bobby has some good advice of how we can pass the info to others:

Bobby Hemmit speaks about The Occult and how we MUST get out of the FEAR! Part 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQ8e2L6nww

I, for one will continue to investigate this black 'movement' for now - I really don't think it's a racial thing - I sincerely believe they are 'for' all 'right'-thinking/living people. Only when we the people unite will the evil that we are tricked into manifesting be 'overcome' - (fwoabw).

It's not just black people who are enslaved - our slave I/D's are our Social Security/NI Numbers.....

....and then there's the lovely Charlie from "Everything is OK" and his thoughts of yesterday. He's a natural philosopher and a sovereign, responsible and compassionate human being - imo, of course!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQYGKSpUxM

lyghtkynge

05-08-2009, 05:20 PM

http://thm-a04.yimg.com/image/425a12506782c14e
Plato:
"Thus then, and for this reason the night and the day were created, being the period of the one most intelligent revolution."

The Known ~ The UNKnown ~ The UNKNOWABLE

The Trinity of Universal Growth of Experience.

The Cycle of Light of Everything Create.

Hmmm. Also...

The Dark & The Light (Black & White):

"This is a time for the Warrior to hide. It is strategic, especially when all good things in the world are hiding. Eventually, the war between the Vulture [Eagle/Hawk/&c] and the Dragon will produce the magnificent hidden beast of transformation, called the Phoenix. The Vulture and the Dragon are warring beasts. The Phoenix is a beast of the reconciliation of extreme opposites...This war produces the perception of the world. The Vulture freezes the world into its microscopic components of entanglement, while the dragon melts the world into its macroscopic components of the movement of energy. It is the meeting of the Nagual [Dragon] and the Tonal [Vulture], Beingness and Placeness.
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)

"Everyone tells you that you must learn to exist in the moment, but no one tells you how. You cannot exist in the moment; there is too much of yourself to do that. You have to be as whole as the moment can afford you that possibility and you have to become conscious of other dimensional probabilities.
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)

http://thm-a04.yimg.com/image/425a12506782c14e
Ok, let's do some Sharing, OK? Ready, Wise Eager Ones who Protest The Creators creation of Dark & Light (The Two Halves), the Black & white, The Secret & Open, The Occult & Revealed?

From The BLACK HALF of the Yin-Yang, which is HORIZONTAL Consciousness,
GROWS The WHITE HALF of the Yin-Yang, which is The VERTICAL Awareness, The Cosmic Plant, which, Upon Maturing, Produces Flowers, Then Fruit.

The Black Half is That Which Is Below, Hidden, Secret, Soil. Your SOUL, which has been Hidden from Most of You, and must Be Found and Carefully Nourished To Maturity, which Becomes The Pure Light.

And you Both think you are Ready for This? Then do well:

Your Ignorance & Innocence is APPALLING.

Why?

Invoke The White Light, Invoke Knowledge, Invoke Revelation (of something/anything), and You INVOKE It's Opposite: COMING STRAIGHT FOR YOU...AT YOU, with a Speed called Supra, Faster Then Light:

For Every Action there is an Equal & Opposite ReAction:

Call Upon the White Light of Revealed Knowledge, and It Creates More Darkness, er...Questions...ALWAYS, Infinitely.

Call Upon Knowledge, you get more secrets. Call Upon the White, and The Black Is Upon the Way, Equal & Opposite.

Suke, Rodin, you are Both Ignorant Fools to speak so Glibbly about Revealing Everything, leaving Nothing Hidden. Ever hand a Loaded Gun to A Child? Same With this, The Truth, The Cosmic Fire.

I asked you to google Icarus, who's Wings (of Mind/Soul) WERE BURNT from Flying Too Close to The Sun.

It is Always the Most Ignorant Who Protest the Loudest about that which they Cannot Understand Nor Conceive [I]The Meaning/Purpose Of.

Ignorance: Darkness [Hidden Secrets]: yelling for Truth that can Burn.

Duh-oh.

Get It?

Go ahead and speak idiocy, words spawned by other ignorants, that 'secrecy is the mother of all conspiracy.' Find that Lighted Truth, and then Reveal It. I have, and Know that the Beatings I have Received were in Direct Proportion to the Error of Expressed Ignorance.

Want Some More?

I've been Taken to the Inner Garden by The Naga. So, too, have I been taken to the Crystal City, where Dwells...That Which You Two Cowards of Darkness...FEAR.

Scream & Protest Your Ignorance That All Should Be Revealed: ALL. Go tell your friends & enemies.
Now, an exercise for Both of You:

Go Relieve Yourself in a Public Place, and then, after the ensuing ordeal is over, Ponder about The Hidden, and such Necessity.

When You (maybe) Are Born Into All Light, You will have Graduated:

This is called Leaving the Wheel of Incarnation (Dark & Light),

and Entering Into the State of Eternal Progression (All Light).

I have Experienced The Cosmic Consciousness, spontaneously at age 17, which lasted 3 days. Twice More.

The Highest State Known To Mankind. (Which must be sustained to Transmute Flesh Into Pure Energy).

Now you say I couldn't have? You are in Darkness Before Such Awareness, until you Have this Direct Knowing.

Darkness. Hidden Ignorance.

Believe as you will, for you cannot be Forced to Understand.

Now run along, and spew your diatribe of revelation where you will.

Oh, and lest Any Others Protest, how about a Bit of Revelation as way of parting from this thread, lead by Ignorance and Resistance to Truth? Here You Go:

The Serpent of Light:
Five of the six illustrations have the Serpent shown with human attributes. This is similar to the Native American depictions from Colorado. In all cases, this has a practical effect giving the Serpent the ability to communicate. In the Biblical illustrations the fruit has been transformed from egg to apple. This has a logical effect. The Serpent can no longer be considered the intended receiver of the fruit. It is a simple fact that snakes do not eat apples. They do, however, eat eggs.

The conclusion of the modern version has been modified to have a particular psychodynamic effect to the intended youthful listener to this tale. That is that he (or she) lives in a place other than Paradise or Eden and must accept this as fact. The Inyo conclusion reveals another ending entirely. It becomes obvious that the Serpent is the intended receiver for the fruit (of a sky animal). The serpent is satisfied, thus mankind, the People, may live in Paradise or Eden. Powerful lessons to learn as a child."
Roderick L. Schmidt

I teach, in private, the Way of Lighting the Golden-White Egg of The Inner Sun, and also, the Black Sun. What do you do, besides mouth protests at that which is Hidden From Your Understanding?

Increase Your Light, instead of throwing your Stones of Ignorance.

Pathetic lack of awareness.

You Spawn Ignorance by Such Protest: Let All Be Light:

This Is The creator's Command, and It, and Everything in the Cosmos & On Our Earth, is Obeying This Command, like it or not: It is IN ACTION every second. All Are Obeying, like it or not, As Fast As They Can.

But you protest that All should be revealed Instantly, shut the Show Off, because we want nothing hidden, NOW.

Who's the Fool? Enjoy your Fool's Journey Into Light:
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/brooksmichael20/dragons/nop021-1.jpg
Two Halves of One Whole:

Ever try Play Ball with Half the Ball? Thought Not. Now go and Contemplate your Unjust Protest. And yes, Suke, I immediately felt your distaste and disapprobation (moral disapproval; condemnation). Sad, Pathetic, Misguided Ignorance. You are welcome to it.
Farewell.

sukyspook

05-08-2009, 06:45 PM

Your Ignorance & Innocence is APPALLING.

Then imagine how I feel trying to awaken my own flesh and blood children; my family; friends; community to even MY level of 'knowing'.

If calling us ignorant and innocent is the best you come up with Lyghtkynge, then so long and thanks, from my pov, for your very valuable input.

This "life" is a journey of discovery for every one of us to be undertaken in our own way, (imo of course).

Some of us, as with numerous previous generations, will die without realising our/their full potential but if that's the case, until such times as enough awaken to prevent that repeating for the 'whole', then this ridiculous cycle will perpetuate itself ad nauseum.

I'll know when I'm done with this thread too. But whilst people are curious enough to visit here where things I've discovered confirm that whatever it is we call 'Lucifer/Satan' exists, then I'll happily continue to share what I believe is helpful to anyone with 'eyes and ears', even if the info is dismissed for whatever reason.

You haven't failed to awaken me/us - but I personally would NEVER insult anyone who wouldn't listen to me - IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL what they do with ANY AND ALL information.

Love and peace,
Suke

tyler

06-08-2009, 02:30 AM

runciter

06-08-2009, 09:24 AM

i prayed yesterday for your friend, as many of us surely did, and now i'm so glad that my eyes got wet.

sometimes i think i've learnt more from dogs than from human beings, they're silent little gurus.

few things can move me more than a dog who sleeps and dreams of barking and running.

shanecmuir

06-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Lucifer is a code word for the intellect.

Those that worship Lucifer worship their own brain capacity.

So despite all the trappings of a religion Luciferians are actually atheists.

sukyspook

06-08-2009, 10:46 AM

Well said, Suke. I'm afraid I don't have your tolerance and this silly fellow annoys me and really doesn'
't have much to offer any of us.
He reeks of immaturity and self centredness and is desperately trying to impress us all. Obviously he still has a lot of work to do on building self esteem. He has a low opinion of himself and he tries to cover it up by spouting long tracts of half baked platitudes obviously plagiarised from elsewhere.
No doubt he is young and still has a lot of growing up to do.
Anyone who has travelled along our road less travelled for any length of time would not insult fellow travellers as he does.
We shall let him go. He has much to learn.

I'm still enjoying all that you post here, Suke. I have been elsewhere for the past week searching for my lost dog and grieving over him thinking he was dead.
The experience has taught me a lot about love.
I got him back tonight.

OH TYLER - YOU GOT HIM BACK!!!! How wonderful!! He's such a beautiful little guy and I really felt for you - your video was terrific. I'll pop over there and see if you've posted an explanation as to his long-hoped-for return.

That's wonderful news - and agreed about our friend who brought a lot of info BUT - "you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink" - likewise we can't force people to believe our 'way', even though we KNOW it to be absolute Truth for ourselves - it's purely up to them/us, for good or bad.

I'm so thrilled for you, I got goosebumps when I read your last line!!!

Love, Suke xxx

sukyspook

06-08-2009, 11:09 AM

Lucifer is a code word for the intellect.

Those that worship Lucifer worship their own brain capacity.

So despite all the trappings of a religion Luciferians are actually atheists.

Indeed Shane, I believe you are correct, which is why I like Bobby Hemmitt and the 'Melanin' guys who 'know' that the demonic ents are from our own brain/mind - but I also believe that there ARE 'magis' who can conjure up these entities in 3D.....

Lucifer is presumably the 'Thelema' of Crowley. It's a kind of 'arrogant egotism' - and it's very, very selfish.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that they are atheists, I'd say they were pure materialists which I also believe could be called Satanists, as Satan is the 'god or prince of this world' - the 'prince of the power of the air'.

I spend a lot of time around old people with Altzheimers/dementia....I believe that some of their behaviour is quite possibly due to demonic-type possession. Many of these people are never 'at peace' within themselves and I believe dying 'properly' requires as conscious a mind as possible which is why 'they' love us 'SACRIFICING' ourselves (in their "wars") as our soul/spirit is traumatized and also doesn't 'move on' - I guess gun and knife crime too as promoted in their movies which in turn, programmes the unconscious mind to destroy itself and sadly, others.

I have a hunch that Altzheimer's prevents the moving on/ascension of the soul/spirit after physical death.....perhaps by design?

I'm about to get into Phrenology I think it's called to try to find out the connection between demons/'gods' such as Bacchus/booze addiction etc and our physical anatomy.

Only by overcoming then being in control of our ego/will and becoming spiritually conscious can we hope to become sovereign, responsible and authentic human beings....in my opinion, of course!

runciter

06-08-2009, 01:00 PM

suky, check out this "coincidence" (related to shane's post):

The following image shows the Egyptian Eye of Horus (or Eye of Ra) and how how it precisely matches exact formation of the thalamus within the human brain (click for a larger image).

http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/eye_of_horus_thalamus_brain.jpg

The similarities are not just uncanny - they are exact. Yet this is viewed as nothing more than a coincidence, because in modern thinking it is assumed that the Egyptians could not have had this knowledge. Thus we are blinded to the obvious. The Eye of Horus was also broken into six basic components, each representing a different sense; smell, touch, taste, hearing, sight and thought. The thalamus is the part of the human brain which translates all incoming signals from our senses. Could the symbolism of this be any clearer?

There is a great deal of information buried within the symbolism of mythology, religion and ancient tradition. This information not only uncovers long lost ’secrets’, but also provides a key into one of the greatest mysteries; understanding ourselves. As researchers dig deeper into this amazing symbolism not only is new knowledge being found - but perhaps it is leading to the discovery of the origin of knowledge itself.

http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/symbolism-in-history-ancient-lost-knowledge/

(thanks for what you wrote in the other thread, i think/feel the same about you :))

sukyspook

07-08-2009, 11:06 AM

suky, check out this "coincidence" (related to shane's post):

(thanks for what you wrote in the other thread, i think/feel the same about you :))

Hi Runciter ;) - the brain stem/eye of Ra ain't no coincidence imo.

I was heavily 'into' the brain and its esoteric links about 3 years ago but somehow didn't pursue it then - I even bought a copy of Gray's Anatomy for £3 in a cheap bookshop - the 'Truth Angel' or simply Divine Intervention has placed many such books cheaply and easily available to me over the past 9 years for which I'm very grateful. Now, thanks to you posting that graphic - which is one of the best illustrations I've seen, I know I have to go back to that particular area of research as something else came up last week too - there's something intriguing to me in Grays/the brain that I'll post about this weekend!!
Thanks for the 'nudge' - I 'know' you 'get' how this Truth thing works too!

I've been a bit sidetracked with a trip down to London this week - groan. When I was 16 I so desperately wanted to live there - now, many years later the entire place freaks me out, especially Canary Wharf which I watch as it comes into view from the M25/M11 then driving right past it, and the "O2"/dome.... and especially at night - eeeoowww - not to mention that huge waste of space and money (imo) - the Olympics site at Stratford....all that energy (! - CO2 - but it doesn't matter when it's 'them' does it....) and all for just 3 weeks + the Paralympics.

The greed and stupidity of 'them' is unbelievable - but as Rik Clay pointed out and I had already realised, the "Olympics" - and especially the 2012 London Olympics isn't about athletes and competition - it's about ££££; worship of the 'Olympians' and creating infrastructure to further rip humanity off any-which-way 'they' can:

Rik Clay I/Vs from Red Ice:

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4789

There was something else I wanted to post about but I can't remember what it was - no doubt when I press 'submit reply' it will immediately come back lol!!

Anyway, here's the lovely Charlie again - watch these people blindly protect and manifest the corporate police state for their corporate masters and especially the guy at the end who I thought was about to expire he was so angry lol!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA5iM6MjxFw

I REMEMBERED WHAT I WANTED TO POST BEFORE PRESSING 'SUBMIT'!!

This is a looooong and very fascinating article which is difficult to break into 'snips' - it's not new, it's from April 16th 09 but if you haven't read it, it's a well put together compilation of many of the info most of us already know - there's an mp3 within it on the 'Great Work' which I haven't managed to listen to yet:

Lucifer’s United Nations

snip

"Bailey was an acolyte of Madame Blavatsky, the Freemason witch who wrote, “Stand in awe of him, and sin not, speak his name with trembling … It is Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god. … When the Church, therefore, curses Satan, it curses the cosmic reflection of God.” "

snip

"Freemasons believe that the creator of the universe — being, in their view, a sick bastard — left the world — including mankind itself — in an imperfect state. They see themselves as Gods who, having reached perfection, have the ability and natural right to shape and reshape the world according to their plan known as “The Great Work” [Link to audio from Lucis fixture and catamite of Satan, Thomas Berry]. They see themselves as re-creators, above and at odds with the true creator of the universe, like the Rabbis in the Talmud who boast about outvoting God. The “lesser-evolved” types are seen as cannon-fodder, flowers that must be trampled, for the rebuilding of Solomon’s (Sol-Om-On) Temple, which itself is esoteric allegory for The Great Work; the “perfection” of mankind. Matter is put above creation, and “science” (secular dogma) over faith, with the understanding that man become God through study, the occult, and technocractic endevours and manipulations."

snip

Rest at:

http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/lucifers-united-nations/

If this 'reality' we're being forced to manifest is 'their' idea of a 'great work' to attain 'perfection', I'd rather bumble along as the imperfect but well-meaning human being I am right now thanks!!

coco

07-08-2009, 05:16 PM

Ah, man is but a stumbling, demented child king.

At least those without a semblance of self awareness, which I can attest can be challenging at times.

sukyspook

07-08-2009, 08:05 PM

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” –Saul Alinsky

That is the dedication in the book: "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky:

Alex Jones is talking to Jerome Corsi (18:40 Friday 7th Aug 09) on

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

They are discussing Obama; Socialism and the unrest at 'Town Hall' Meetings where people are standing up to Obama's radical health care plan.

I followed some link on Jerome concerning the 'link' to Alinsky and the Lucifer dedication:

September 3, 2008

Obama nation: The Alinskying of Sarah Palin

"In case there was any doubt that there is a deliberate tactic behind the windstorm of accusations against Sarah Palin, one need only refer to the Democratic playbook, “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky.

You may not have heard of Alinsky. A radical born in Chicago in 1909, Alinsky is the granddaddy of the extremist, anti-American left. Hillary Clinton wrote her thesis on Alinsky. Barack Obama considers himself a student of Alinsky’s teachings.

After a lifetime of involvement with “social groups,” as most fawning bios put it, Alinsky wrote his book “Rules for Radicals,” published in 1971, a year before his death.

In the book, he gives 13 (note the number) rules for destroying opposition to any crazy proposal.

I won’t bore you with the full list, but among them is Rule 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” In that rule, Alinsky counsels wannabe radicals to simply flood the opposition with unending attacks until they give up in frustration. Other rules advise humiliating your opposition; attacking people, not institutions; how to stir up violence; using irrelevant arguments to keep opponents off-balance; etc.

It literally is the Democratic playbook, used by Obama, Hillary, the liberal media and every Democratic Party socialist and self-described “reformer” out there.

Alinsky summed up what has become the real core of liberal belief (emphasis mine):

“There’s another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families – more than seventy million people – whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don’t encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let’s not let it happen by default.” "

snip

rest at:

http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/obama-nation-the-alinskying-of-sarah-palin/

...and from lamestream Fox News, Sear Hannity i/v'd Jerome Corsi around this time last year re Corsi's book:

First Look at Controversial Obama Book

Friday, August 01, 2008

"This is a rush transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," July 31, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated."

"SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: HANNITY: A new book due out tomorrow makes shocking allegations about Senator Obama's background, and it may have made his campaign a bit nervous. From Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long relationship with Trinity Church to Obama's family connections to Kenya to his dealings with, well, Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist, the author aims to expose what he says is the real Obama.

Joining us now, in an exclusive interview, is the author of "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and The Cult of Personality," Dr. Jerome Corsi is with us."

"KIRSTEN POWERS, GUEST CO-HOST: You raised just now Saul Alinsky.

CORSI: Yes.

POWERS: Of course, Hillary Clinton famously identified him as somebody who's been very influential to her.

CORSI: Correct. Absolutely.

POWERS: She grew up in the most middle class, sort of normal American family, Republican family, actually. I mean, she's not a radical. Why does it make Obama a radical?

CORSI: Saul Alinsky was a radical.

POWERS: I understand that, but I'm saying you could -- you could actually read Saul Alinsky and not be radical.

CORSI: I don't see how. I mean, here, Saul Alinsky is saying that Machiavelli wrote "The Prince" for the haves to keep what they have, and he wrote "Rules for Radical" for the have-nots to take it away.

POWERS: Right.

CORSI: He dedicated it, "Rules for Radicals," to Lucifer. And Obama taught Alinsky methodology.

POWERS: Do you -- do you believe in Hillary Clinton as a radical?

CORSI: She was in terms of her following of Alinsky. And I think Hillary -- you know, this book is not about Hillary."

Read the transcript here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395823,00.html

Saul Alinsky:

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909, Chicago, Illinois – June 12, 1972, Carmel, California) was a community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing in America. His ideas were adapted by American college student protest organizers in the late 1960s, resulting in the college campus and societal upheavals of that time. [1]

Part 17 of Tom Horn's new book (preview) is now online:

APOLLYON RISING 2012
The Lost Symbol Found And The Final Mystery Of The Great Seal Revealed
A Terrifying And Prophetic Cipher, Hidden From The World By The U.S. Government For Over 200 Years Is Here

FROM ANCIENT EGYPT TO GREECE: TIS THINE OWN APOLLO REIGNS

Do read Tom's manuscript and the previous parts if you haven't already done so - I won't post a snip as I couldn't choose the best bit!!

http://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2009/08/part-seventeen-read-it-before-it-is.html

At the time I checked out Tom's blog I was watching this new series from Protestant Separatist:

Part 1 The REAL Secret America- Great Seal of Lucifer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syD5f7cIDCc&feature=channel_page

Part 2 REAL Secret America flag - Banner of the Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxViD0VOLm0&feature=channel

Part 3 The REAL Secret America-Washington as the Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwAryVVF8FE&feature=channel

PART 4 IS MISSING - HERE'S PART 5:

Part 5 The REAL Secret America's 'Son of Perditon'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7IzWlvDpJg&feature=PlayList&p=A7AABEE1B296F582&index=0

sukyspook

10-08-2009, 06:08 PM

This will be the best 10+ minutes you've spent today, or if you don't 'have a clue' about all this - possibly the best 10 minutes you've ever spent!!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fx3DufDTP8&NR=1

If you've seen and 'know' about all that, join me in continuing to uncover Truth via the usual, 'physical/material' Truthseeking channels:

Lenny appears to have tamed Mrs Steele on this one lol - THIS IS A BRILLIANT PIECE OF MULTI-DOT CONNECTING:

August 6 09: Shocktalk with Lenny Bloom and Mrs Steele:

Lenny & Mrs. Steele reported that the mass media is imprinting a false reality on the masses without their control. They are blind to the fact that they are being pushed to live at speeds beyond for which they were designed. They are living a year each day at electric speeds. Mankind has become discarnate and has disappeared, and remains invisible to himself. Lenny and Mrs. Steele offered solutions to this condition by using counter-propaganda science to study the media, and the effect of the medium on our sensory thresholds, sensory ratios and sensory typology. Counter-propaganda science trains human perception to mimick Perseus' mirror .

Bloom and Steele updated the Four Horsemen News and showed Prophecy Foretold.
They played a Sherman Skolnick/Bloom briefing from August 2004. Sherman exposed another 9/11 Smoking Gun and revealed CIA Director Porter Goss' involvement by showing what he was doing on the morning of 9/11. Special Guest Tim Spearman showed the influence of Heavenly Bodies on world events. Stay Ahead of the Parade during the week by following Mrs. Steele and Lenny Bloom on Twitter at www.twitter.com/mrsjanesteele and www.twitter.com/bloomlenny

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13668/shock_talk_2009-08a-06_-_tim_spearman.mp3

Edutainment as always from Conspiracy Cafe, 6th August 2009:

6 August 2009 – Conspiracy Cafe
Britain aims to set up the infamous telescreen, US tax dollars fund insurgency, secret UAE funds transfers, FEMA's wants your kids, Russian subs off the east coast, great big gobs of greasy grimy monkey guts to be served your way, did Gorski film the moon landing, Canadian financier killed in plane crash, Chavez up in arms, Blackwater revelations. Remember you can never be alone in your room if you don't listen.

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13672/conspiracy_cafe_2009-08a-06.mp3

and this week's 'Space' - Gary 'The Spaceman' Bell - it's a bit heavy:

Aug 8 09

TOPIC: the atomic bomb, the August 'Dispute Moon', Bill Clinton in North Korea...

TIME: 3:25:27

SIZE: 35.3 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?dmzmcyxtjck
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VF30F3P0

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/638438060ce46e17/

lizzy

10-08-2009, 06:28 PM

Thanks for the new audios Suky;)...hope all is well ;)

Yes, the eye of Ra, is v interesting . Will be listening today. :)

turquoisefire777

11-08-2009, 12:38 AM

anyone read this yet by tim rifat?:

"so Thaumiel: Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth the double headed Jewish God of evil is not synonymous with Lucifer...."

"Yaldabaoth: Thaumiel so from the viewpoint of Total Intent there is only one male principle - Anti-Lucifer, the chief male Fallen Angel corrupted by Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth as Lucifer/Satan (double quantum superimposition of Thaumiel...) so Lucifer and Satan are synonymous but when the evil of the Jew God is decohered from the Fallen Angel Lucifer, the Anti-Lucifer is not Satan the Jewish Satanist construct using Lucifer's power (as all Satanism is based on parasitism) but the highest Angel who rebelled against the Jewish God of Evil and became Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth's bitterest enemies, refusing to obey transgenic chimps which were avatars, living zombies of the Chaos God. Since Lucifer rebelled with the rest of the Fallen Angel it is safe to say he was possessed by the hidden part of evil that Total Intent uses on the Global Gestalt to sequester Satanism, so was following Total Intent's sequestration plan. Thaumiel, Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth had to bury this rebellious group of Fallen Angels in it's transgenic chimp avatars so they forget their rebellion. Why? As the shock troops of Total Intent Lucifer and his Fallen Angels possessed by Total Intent were unbeatable so only by making them forget and quantum superimposing it's double Satanic female evil on them could the Fallen Angels be turned into Sleepwalkers, their rebellion forgotten and replaced by a dream of following the Jew God of evil who quantum superimposed itself as Satan on Lucifer a parasitical infestation that mind controls the Fallen Angels in exactly the same manner as the transgenic chimp/Man is parasitized by the insectile (see Castaneda: The Active Side of Infinity: Chapter on Mudshadows) "

and i've had my own questions about metatron, and here rifat say that:

"Unfortunately for evil Tim Rifat the Psi-Lord was the Anti-Luciferic Awareness that awoke in the hidden place of evil to destroy the evil system from within. In Kabbalah the Lucifer Grand Arch Angel was replaced by Metatron. The transgenic chimp avatar/Man (Ekzekiel) who stole Lucifer's power (outer shell) to become the Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth version of Lucifer Satan's Avatar a servant of evil and using it's power to hold back Total Intent. A foolish notion as Total Intent cannot be beaten so Tim Rifat sequestered Metatron's power being (see 2nd to last Grail Diagrams) and since Metatron was the Avatar of Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth possessed the Jew God of Evil to sequester all Zionist Edamic creation from within, Anti-Creation of evil. Now this process is complete the vivisected Fallen Angel shells of the only part of chaos that rebelled against the worthless chimps and an Anti-Chaos poison sheath made from the toxic waste of Sublime Good® has been inserted around them to drive the Insectile mad as it eats it for sustenance poisoning the entire Zionist Empire. "

http://www.supernaturalspirit.com/supernatural_spirit_anti_fallen_angel_service.html

tyler

12-08-2009, 12:39 AM

Enjoyed the Conspiracy Cafe tape, Sukey. :)

sukyspook

12-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Thanks for the new audios Suky;)...hope all is well ;)

Yes, the eye of Ra, is v interesting . Will be listening today. :)

Hi Lizzy - glad you're still dropping by - I'm mostly fine thanks but...I'm off to the quack this morning which for me MUST be bad!! I avoid doctors and the medical "profession" like the plague and only go when absolutely necessary. However, I've finally had to admit to myself that looking at my computer screen with my head at 25degree angle is bad enough to necessitate seeking medical assistance lol. I've had a sore neck for 5-6 days but I thought it was getting better, however, it woke me up in the night and has been very painful which is why my neck/head is held at an angle. I suspect an ear infection.....

Anyway, enough of my self pity - I hope you're well and "as long as there's life, there's hope" - not Obama-hope but REAL hope for us all.

Love and hugs to you xxx

anyone read this yet by tim rifat?:

"so Thaumiel: Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth the double headed Jewish God of evil is not synonymous with Lucifer...."

"Yaldabaoth: Thaumiel so from the viewpoint of Total Intent there is only one male principle - Anti-Lucifer, the chief male Fallen Angel corrupted by Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth as Lucifer/Satan (double quantum superimposition of Thaumiel...) so Lucifer and Satan are synonymous but when the evil of the Jew God is decohered from the Fallen Angel Lucifer, the Anti-Lucifer is not Satan the Jewish Satanist construct using Lucifer's power (as all Satanism is based on parasitism) but the highest Angel who rebelled against the Jewish God of Evil and became Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth's bitterest enemies, refusing to obey transgenic chimps which were avatars, living zombies of the Chaos God. Since Lucifer rebelled with the rest of the Fallen Angel it is safe to say he was possessed by the hidden part of evil that Total Intent uses on the Global Gestalt to sequester Satanism, so was following Total Intent's sequestration plan. Thaumiel, Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth had to bury this rebellious group of Fallen Angels in it's transgenic chimp avatars so they forget their rebellion. Why? As the shock troops of Total Intent Lucifer and his Fallen Angels possessed by Total Intent were unbeatable so only by making them forget and quantum superimposing it's double Satanic female evil on them could the Fallen Angels be turned into Sleepwalkers, their rebellion forgotten and replaced by a dream of following the Jew God of evil who quantum superimposed itself as Satan on Lucifer a parasitical infestation that mind controls the Fallen Angels in exactly the same manner as the transgenic chimp/Man is parasitized by the insectile (see Castaneda: The Active Side of Infinity: Chapter on Mudshadows) "

and i've had my own questions about metatron, and here rifat say that:

"Unfortunately for evil Tim Rifat the Psi-Lord was the Anti-Luciferic Awareness that awoke in the hidden place of evil to destroy the evil system from within. In Kabbalah the Lucifer Grand Arch Angel was replaced by Metatron. The transgenic chimp avatar/Man (Ekzekiel) who stole Lucifer's power (outer shell) to become the Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth version of Lucifer Satan's Avatar a servant of evil and using it's power to hold back Total Intent. A foolish notion as Total Intent cannot be beaten so Tim Rifat sequestered Metatron's power being (see 2nd to last Grail Diagrams) and since Metatron was the Avatar of Yaltabaoth, Yaldabaoth possessed the Jew God of Evil to sequester all Zionist Edamic creation from within, Anti-Creation of evil. Now this process is complete the vivisected Fallen Angel shells of the only part of chaos that rebelled against the worthless chimps and an Anti-Chaos poison sheath made from the toxic waste of Sublime Good® has been inserted around them to drive the Insectile mad as it eats it for sustenance poisoning the entire Zionist Empire. "

http://www.supernaturalspirit.com/supernatural_spirit_anti_fallen_angel_service.html

Hi Turquoisefire - I don't specifically remember that particular piece from Tim but I've read so much of his site and let's face it, whilst his English, like mine, is 'passable' - he doesn't make it easy does he lol!

I've now read that passage 4 times and it's still confusing. For myself, I read as much as I can and if it's important, the words generally come back to give me a nudge. My other half (after 33 years wedded bliss - (!)) that I can never finish one thing before going on to another...he's right of course - I do have a butterfly mind which I say makes for an untidy but interesting life!!
I'll read the passage again and probably again when I have some kind of relief from my neck ache!!

Meanwhile - what are your thoughts on that passage? (I've read that Metatron IS Enoch, who is also said to be Thoth/Mercury/Hermes.......- another of my butterfly stop-off topics lol). Will we ever know the absolute Truth of any of this - I sincerely hope so which is why I'm constantly searching.....

Suke x

Enjoyed the Conspiracy Cafe tape, Sukey. :)

Hi Tyler - glad you enjoyed it too....George has a great sense of humour. Did you think Shock Talk was better this week?? I enjoy Tim Spearman's insights/contributions too. Both George and Lenny have taken Tim on board whilst Tim's finances won't stretch to broadcasting his own show as frequently - glad they see Tim's 'worth' too.
How's your faithfull little friend after his big adventure?? Being spoilt I expect - and why not!!

Suke x

Right - I'm off to see a medical representative of 'the system' and am hoping for a miracle - OUCH!

ps - here's an interesting video I watched sideways lol - listen very carefully right at the beginning - eeeooowwwwww!!!!:

Occult History of Barry 2/4 – (Lucifer at beginning…)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlFbHS-ZtU&feature=related

turquoisefire777

12-08-2009, 06:05 PM

Hi Turquoisefire - I don't specifically remember that particular piece from Tim but I've read so much of his site and let's face it, whilst his English, like mine, is 'passable' - he doesn't make it easy does he lol!

I've now read that passage 4 times and it's still confusing. For myself, I read as much as I can and if it's important, the words generally come back to give me a nudge. My other half (after 33 years wedded bliss - (!)) that I can never finish one thing before going on to another...he's right of course - I do have a butterfly mind which I say makes for an untidy but interesting life!!
I'll read the passage again and probably again when I have some kind of relief from my neck ache!!

Meanwhile - what are your thoughts on that passage? (I've read that Metatron IS Enoch, who is also said to be Thoth/Mercury/Hermes.......- another of my butterfly stop-off topics lol). Will we ever know the absolute Truth of any of this - I sincerely hope so which is why I'm constantly searching.....

Suke x

hehe, yeah, it can be diffycult reading them passages. but the main question i'm sure we all have after abit of searching, is: lucifer...to be is the bad guy, or to be is not the bad guy...that is the question.

now, i understand certain things because of my true heritage but i myself keep on being on the lookout for the truth.

but what tim is saying -what i'm getting- is that lucifer was basically taken advantage of, was in fact one of the first "truthers", and so the origional evil imposter god -who poses and the true god- had to demonize and entrap/enslave lucifer and his rebels because of that -for trying to break out of the matrix-. not only that, the real satanists is stealing lucifers energy, and blaming lucifer for evil?

my point of view is, that lucifer has had to be captured, because of his/her brilliance and beauty to be used as a face for the secret societies, that then, in a twisted way would then motivate the uninformed beings in secret societies of the ages to fight for top spot...to supposedly get in favour with lucifer. go to 1:30 and see a representation of lucifer in true angelic form:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fV0cg4JHN4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fforum%2Fshow thread.php%3Ft%3D73164&feature=player_embedded

also check out my thread:http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73164

so how does lucifer get all tangled up with the bad evil god? if you know anything about spirit posession, you'll have a clue.

sukyspook

13-08-2009, 09:48 AM

hehe, yeah, it can be diffycult reading them passages. but the main question i'm sure we all have after abit of searching, is: lucifer...to be is the bad guy, or to be is not the bad guy...that is the question.

now, i understand certain things because of my true heritage but i myself keep on being on the lookout for the truth.

but what tim is saying -what i'm getting- is that lucifer was basically taken advantage of, was in fact one of the first "truthers", and so the origional evil imposter god -who poses and the true god- had to demonize and entrap/enslave lucifer and his rebels because of that -for trying to break out of the matrix-. not only that, the real satanists is stealing lucifers energy, and blaming lucifer for evil?

my point of view is, that lucifer has had to be captured, because of his/her brilliance and beauty to be used as a face for the secret societies, that then, in a twisted way would then motivate the uninformed beings in secret societies of the ages to fight for top spot...to supposedly get in favour with lucifer. go to 1:30 and see a representation of lucifer in true angelic form:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fV0cg4JHN4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fforum%2Fshow thread.php%3Ft%3D73164&feature=player_embedded

also check out my thread:http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73164

so how does lucifer get all tangled up with the bad evil god? if you know anything about spirit posession, you'll have a clue.

Well put Turquoisefire - however, any image of such entities as Lucifer as you pointed out in the video are, imo, interpretations from the mind of human being's.....interpreted from what was once written by a human being inspired by God - which, for anyone who doesn't believe in God and Divine Inspiration "won't wash" and will generally be dismissed as nonsense. However, 'I' believe in a Most High Creator and/or God as this life/world/universe is too ordered for there not to be extremely 'intelligent design' behind it (IMO, of course!).

As always, life, which is energy in a myriad of forms, can be used for good or evil in this polarity we currently.....'live' in. WE, each of us individually and then collectively, can deflect or dilute the negative effects of this polarity within ourselves but it requires considerable work ON and within ourselves which, until you actually come to know this, is an alien concept for the majority of people who see themselves and interract with others who see 'life' as purely material and which mindset 'they' wish to keep us locked within - "education", on the whole, raises 'materially-based' people (imo). 'They' obviously like the 'material' side of things and wish to continue to extract our life force which, in turn is materialised energy ie MONEY, our 'sweat-equity'...which in a materially based system affords them the POWER to CONTROL us and the world.

If it's the case that even Lucifer has been 'duped' then it's up to Lucifer to choose how he/she wishes to live - but imo we must all come to realise that the behaviour of the individual always affects the collective and if we cause harm or loss to ourselves and others close by, we ultimately affect the whole.

This is where I have a problem with 'Luciferians and Satanists' for they, in themselves, might not think that they are doing any harm to others by their practices but it's my humble opinion that whether directly or indirectly they ARE introducing/manifesting energies and entities into the world that those who haven't done the necessary work on themselves could be deeply affected by....and especially if these 'Luciferians/Satanists' hold positions in the media/banking/medical/military/education etc etc where they dictate policy and indirectly (nay, directly) have access to our minds, well, just look around you for I believe this is EXACTLY what has been intentionally done to humanity....

So I may have to disagree with our dear friend Timmy Rifat on this one - but there are SO many other things I wholeheartedly agree with him on, especially on the topic of the Rothschilds who I refer to as "Satan's Little Helpers".

I'm re-reading a small book I've had and read several times over several years. Here's a lovely passage that sits nicely with what I just wrote and with a fantastic video from the lovely Charlie from yesterday (I've inserted my emphasees in the passage - Suke) - (Jerusalem, as most probably know means 'house of peace' - jeru - house.....salem/shalom - peace - pity that those who vocalise Shalom so often don't practice it within themselves and their communities....sigh):

The Book of Revelations: A Commentary by Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov.

"The New Jersulam, therefore, is, first and foremost, man himself. Secondly, it is the ideal society and, ultimately, it is the true universal Church of God, the Church of the Spririt and of Truth, the Church of all the great Initiates. No one can prevent this Church from coming and, when it comes, all these things will be explained, everything will become clear, for Scripture tells us that God will dwell in men and write His Law in their hearts. When this day comes, men will not need anyone to preach religion or morals to them; they will all know inwardly what to do, how to love, how to serve and how to work. For centuries, Christians have dreamed of this glorious City and longed for it to come down from Heaven. How can they be made to understand, now, that it is they themselves that are the New Jerusalem? To be sure, as things are today, they are still in the old Jerusalem, still in the grip of disorder and discord, but it is within their grasp to become that City of pure gold whose foundations of precious stones are the virtues (and the spiritual life can have no foundations more solid than the virtues) and whose pearly gates ensure the subtlest intercourse with the luminous entities of the universe***.

The New Jerusalem is the perfect man, the perfect social life, the Kingdom of peace and righteousness in which reigns Melchizedek, king of Salem. Yes, this Kingdom truly exists and has always existed. It is thanks to its continued existence that the authentic tradition has survived, for it is from this Initiatic centre that all the great Masters have come to bring light to mankind.

Try, now, to keep this image of the New Jerusalem alive within you, for it is this that will nourish, strengthen and enlighten you. Human beings need powerful, luminous images of this nature that work on them and urge them forward on the path of evolution."

end

IMO, Charlie 'knows' about the above - (whether he realises it or not) and I'm sure he does. What a wonderful way to awaken humanity, especially the police..... imo of course!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-GsKn4-CF0

***from what I've read, understand and always try to practice, one doesn't have to physically interract with spiritual entities - words like love; peace; truth; wisdom; compassion; common sense etc are directly linked to spiritual entities whom we never need to 'see' but by the very practice of living and using these words for the good of humanity, beginning with the individual, then these entities work to bring those sentiments into reality..... Sadly, likewise: hate; war; death; suffering; poverty; violence - even just typing them allows me to experience their -ve 'power' - invoke entities of that 'vibration' and if you have a mindset invoking such dark power - well, again, look around us.....
From my pov, it's when any entities are deliberately invoked and used against humanity that humanity continues to 'fall' or rather be tricked into continually 'falling'.....

Only WE can stop the faaaaallllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg!!

sukyspook

14-08-2009, 08:32 AM

And now a treat for 'P O E T S' day - ("piss off early, tomorrow's Saturday") lol -
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's Tim Rifat!:

Aug 12 09 Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat – World Geopolitical Analysis - begins with discussion of Mandlescum and the Rothschilds - informative and - OUCH! - as usual, Tim doesn't hold back!

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2009/4rq7d8/rense_081209_hr1.mp3

Here's this week's National Intel Report - discussing topical issues with a moving and heartfelt opinion from a True American on Obama's Healthcare bill in p1 and from Robby: from democracy to meritocracy.
I listen to several similar shows from the US as it's a mirror of the UK - different places and names but the agenda is the same:

Nat Intel Aug 11 09

Hr 1 John Stadtmiller with Bob Chapman and Robby Noel
http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Stadtmiller/2009/08/Stadtmiller_1_081109_160000.mp3

hr 2

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Stadtmiller/2009/08/Stadtmiller_2_081109_170000.mp3

sukyspook

15-08-2009, 05:22 PM

Right then! Where to start!

I've had an odd kind of week - still searching/reading/watching/listening but some weeks are kind of flat and difficult, as this one was...however, as is always the case, after a 'lull' comes the storm - in this case - not so much a storm as a torrent of wonderful info/audios/videos. ENJOY!!

Here's Freeman's latest from the wonderful Henrik/Frederik at Red Ice (thank you sincerely guys) - listen especially to the last half of p2 where Freeman vocalises EXACTLY my sentiments and also almost word for word how I 'see' our ancestry coming from Mars via the Caucuses.....:

Aug 13 09

Freeman - Obama, Cloning & The Coming Space War

Freeman returns to the program to discuss Obama, Cloning & The Coming Space War. Topics Discussed: Michael Jackson, Died 3 Days after the Summer Solstice, Potential Murder on St John the Baptist Day, Mind Preserving Technology, Robot, Mind Preserving MIT, St Germain, Genetic Memory is Retained, Blue Brain Project, Transhumanist Movement, Obama as the Anti Christ, Lucifer, Satan, Venus, The Bible as a Blue Print, Luciferians & Magicians, Technology, The Power of Backward Masking, "Yes We Can", "Thank you Satan!", WWIII, Constitutional Convention, Space War, Aries, Orion, HAARP as Commentary Attractor, Akhenaton, Apophis visiting Earth April 13th in 2029, Star Wars Program, Verner von Braun, Sea-Based X-Band Radar, Barium, Katrina, Chemtrails, Aluminum, 99942 Apophis and much more. Joins us in our member's area as we continue talking with Freeman about Cloning, Mummies, Ancient and New Technology, The Monolith on Phobos, Buzz Aldrin, ET Disclosure, 2010: The Year we Make Contact. Topics Discussed: Obama and Cloning, A New Religion, Mummification, Vatican, Krypton, Dur-El, Sol Sender, Philipe Solus, Coulderon, Temple of Zeus in Germany, Victory Column, Seti's Tomb in Abydos, Stargate Atlantis and the Obama Administrations, Fingerprints of the Gods and much more.

Hr 1
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/08aug/RIR-090813-freeman.mp3

Aug 13 09 hour 2

Freeman - Obama the Clone, Phobos, ET & Stargate Technology[/B

August 13, 2009

We continue talking with Freeman about Cloning, Mummies, Ancient and New Technology, The Monolith on Phobos, Buzz Aldrin, ET Disclosure, 2010: The Year we Make Contact. Topics Discussed: Obama and Cloning, A New Religion, Mummification, Vatican, Krypton, Dur-El, Sol Sender, Philipe Solus, Coulderon, Temple of Zeus in Germany, Victory Column, Seti's Tomb in Abydos, Stargate Atlantis and the Obama Administrations, Fingerprints of the Gods, technology, Rebuild, Chris Dunn Giza Power Plant, Subterranean Minerals, Mica, Gold, Silver, Quartz Crystals, Teotihuacan, Earth and the Grids as the Computer Device, Capping the Pyramid with a Golden Capstone, CERN, Light into Mass, "The Grid", Light, Computer, The World as the Technology, Apple, Logo, Forbidden Knowledge, Superman, Ramses, Guy Fawks, Phobos Grunt Mission, Buzz Aldrin, Phobos, Alien Life, Disclosure, E.T., Bicentennial Mall in Nashville, King Solomon Seals to bind Magic, Solomonical Magic, 72 Deamons, Resonance, Bicentennial Mall State Park, Black Earth, Goetia, Invasion, incremental colonization, 2010: The year we make contact and much more. Listen to the first Hour here.

Hr 2
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/08aug/RIR-090813-freeman5f4-SUB.mp3

from Freeman too:

Freeman: Obama Satanic children’s choir: Thank you Satan! (I posted a thread about this earlier this year - link below):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlIT1IdpAss&feature=player_embedded

[B]Obama and Bob the Builder Thank Satan! (March 09)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58879

AND THEN THERE'S:

From the wonderful Red Ice - listen as Freddy talks about MARS and our (possible) arrival here from there.......woah!!:

Freddy Silva - Ancient Sacred Sites, Invisible Temples, Giants & Our Ancestors
August 9, 2009

Freddy Silva is the author of "Secrets In The Fields" and behind the film "Stairways to Heaven - The Practical Magic of Sacred Space". He joins us to discuss the Ancient World, Catastrophe, Roots of Human Civilization, Sacred Sites, Sacred Geometry, Giants, Crop Circles and much more. Topics Discussed: Stonehenge, Avebury, Giants Graves, The movie Signs, Crop Circles, Male and Solar Sided life, Circles, Celtic Culture, Roman Catholic Church, Spiritually Fulfilled, The Time we're in right now, Purpose of Human Life, Experience and Learning, Our ancestors, how far back into history do you go? 9.500 years ago, Science and Mysticism, Underwater Structures, Underwater Cities, Egyptians, Great Pyramids, Age of Aquarius, 2012, Return of Christ, UFO's, C. W. Leadbeater, Internal awakening, External Information, Awakening, Collectivist Society vs. Individual Society, Scicop, Fight about viewpoints, Roots of Civilization, Where did our ancestors get the knowledge from? Giants, Dinosaur Footprints next to Human Footprints, Civilization on Mars, Atlantis, Priestly Cast of People, Rejuvenating Civilization, Baalbek, Giants Graves, Sounds, Levitation Princeton Experiment, Balance the Earth Electro Magnetically, Survival Technique of a Dying Earth, Portals, 2012, Great Cycle, temple Building Process, Laws of Attempt, Films on 2012 and Catastrophe, Hollywood, "Knowing", Fear and much more. Joins us in our member's area as we discuss Places of Power, Crop Temples, Sound & Light. We'll begin to talk about catholic suppression of this knowledge, the Gothic Cathedrals, the kings and elites power corruption and how ancient sites seemed to have been plugged shut, and closed down in a way. We talk about Intent as an Electro Magnetic Tool, Alchemy, Universal Consciousness, Cymatics, Hans Jenny, Frequency, Quartz Crystal, Computers, different kinds of Stone and rock and how it affects human consciousness. We discuss Freemasons, Knights Templar, the Vatican, the Watchers, the ancient Gods and we round things up breaking down the Purpose and mystery of Crop Temples, or Crop Circles.

Hr 1 Freddy Silva

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/08aug/RIR-090809-fsilva.mp3

Hr 2
Freddy Silva - Places of Power, Crop Temples, Sound & Light

August 9, 2009

Red Ice Members join us as we discuss Places of Power, Crop Temples, Sound & Light with Freddy Silva. We'll begin to talk about catholic suppression of this knowledge, the Gothic Cathedrals, the kings and elites power corruption and how ancient sites seemed to have been plugged shut, and closed down in a way. We talk about Intent as an Electro Magnetic Tool, Alchemy, Universal Consciousness, Cymatics, Hans Jenny, Frequency, Quartz Crystal, Computers, different kinds of Stone and rock and how it affects human consciousness. We discuss Freemasons, Knights Templar, the Vatican, the Watchers, the ancient Gods and we round things up breaking down the Purpose and mystery of Crop Temples, or Crop Circles. Topics Discussed: Ancient Sites, Shamans, 1600 B.C., Pyramids Plugged, William the Conqueror, Intent as a Electromagnetic Tool, Ego People, Control, Empire Collapse, Universal Faith, Roman Catholic Church, Morgana, The Original freemasons, Knights Templar, Kings Loosing the Plot, Burning the, Freemasons and Knights Templar being infiltrated and Corrupted, Cineon Parchement, Vatican bringing in the Knights Templar again, Infighting, Stonemasonry as Power, Rocks and Stones, Magnetite, Red Granite, Dolerite, Blue Stone, Standing Stone, Fertility Rites, Beltane 3rd of May, Healing properties of Stone Monuments, Modern Buildings Detrimental Effect, Sick Buildings, Iron, magnetic and Human Blood, Entrance = Entrancing, Alter = Alteration, Nave = Navis (Boat), Female, Male, Ancient Technology and Modern technology, Use of Quartz Crystal in Computers, Marcel Vogel at IBM, Alchemy, Change of Ages, Transhumanism, Light and all Understanding, Reprogramming or Awakening "Junk DNA", Why are Crop Temples Made? Silbury Hill, The Hill of the Shining beings, The EL, the Gods, The Watchers, Universal Consciousness, Symbols to Awaken us, Antigravity, Diesel, Power and Oil, Hydropower Cars, Tetrahedron, Free Will, Waiting to be Saved, When will Free Energy become available? Obama, Change and Fraud, How are Crop temples being made? Cymatics, Sound and the relationship to Crop Circles, Hans Jenny, John Stuart Reid, Human Body, Crop Circles and Infrasound, Intent, Ra, Sound and Light, Technology and Intent, 80 Eye Witnesses, To listen to the first segment go here.

Hr 2

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/08aug/RIR-090809-fsilva747-SUB.mp3

I've been wondering about/longing to hear from Michael Tsarion and I'm not disappointed!:

p1 The Irish Origins of Civilization Mtsarion on CMN

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion.htm

April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12) - AWESOME! (imo lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOYMsUTNfY

JOHN PILGER OBAMA AND EMPIRE - AWESOME! (imo too lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI

sukyspook

16-08-2009, 09:38 AM

A Warning to the One World Elite from Adrian Salbuchi - an excellent, short and concise expose of 'their' crimes against all of humanity (imo very good for awakening friends and family):

p1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iPPfOKyayg

p2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrO30qL4jZw

I was just reminded ( ;) ) that I haven't posted p2 of Henry Makow's recent i/v at Red Ice so here are both parts as if you haven't listened to p1 yet, it's another superb and heartfelt expose of 'them':

p1

Henry Makow - Free Speech Threatened in Canada, Zionism & The Elite Satanic Bankers
July 16, 2009

We have writer Henry Makow with us to talk about the current threat to freedom of speech in Canada. We discuss hate laws, "Human rights", political correctness, the Human Rights Commission in Canada and the Canadian Jewish Congress. Henry's website henrymakow.com is threatened to be shutdown because of the topics he writes about: Zionism, the Illuminati, the "Satanic Elite bankers", WWII history, feminism and many other topics. Topics Discussed: Censoring of Henry's website henrymakow.com, Judaism and Zionism, The Canadian Human Rights Commision, Judaism and Zionism, B'nai B'rith, Satanic Conspiracy, AIPAC North, Steven Harper, Free speech, The Banning of Knowledge, radicalpress.ca, Ernst Zundel, Political Correctness, Communism, The Canadian Media, What defines the Elite as Satanic, Transformation of humanity, how are we being changed? Sex, Homosexuality, Religious View on Sex, Nation, Religion, God, Race, Solipsism, Reality, Truth, Love, National Revival, New Age and much more. Join us for Hour Two with Henry Makow in our Members Area. We begin to talk about the Bohemian Grove, The Elite and then move on to discuss Eliot Spitze, Blackmail, Larry Sinclair, Obama and the Socialists, The Top Layers of the Pyramid, WWII History, Hitler as a British Agent, Borman as a British Agent and Rothschilds Conduct Red Symphony and much more.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090716-hmakow.mp3

p2

Henry Makow - Bohemian Grove, WWII History and The Rothschilds
July 30, 2009

We have Henry Makow back with us for Hour Two. We begin to talk about the Bohemian Grove, The Elite and then move on to discuss Eliot Spitzer, Blackmail, Larry Sinclair, Obama and the Socialists, The Top Layers of the Pyramid, WWII History, Hitler and Borman as a British Agents and Rothschilds Conduct Red Symphony. Topics Discussed: Bohemian Grove, Satanic Rituals, Eliot Spitzer, Black Mail, Obama, Larry Sinclair, Bill Clinton, Obama's Birth issue, Saul Alinsky, Community Organizer, Communism, Bella Dodd, Control Freaks, Fabian Society, The World Empire, Roman Empire, The Holy Roman, The Financial Elite, Imperialism, Rothschilds Conduct "Red Symphony", Are World Wars Orchestrators, Revolution, Rothschilds and Rockerfeller, The Royal Families, Nazi Regime, Borman, Hitler, WWII as a Hoax, Nazi War Efforts, Racisim within the Jewish Race, The Destruction of the German People, the Masonic World Capital, The Israeli Supreme Court, Hate Laws in Canada, Human Rights Commission, Cabbalism and much more. Don't miss this interesting Hour Two with Henry Makow. To listen to the first segment go here.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090730-hmakow4f5-SUB.mp3

I'M HAVING TROUBLE POSTING THE LINKS - IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, I'LL HAVE ANOTHER GO AT POSTING THIS AGAIN LATER.....suke

turquoisefire777

17-08-2009, 01:54 AM

"Lucifer was once the most brilliant being in the sky. He was a vision of beauty. You are about to repeat his rebellion..."

Angel Sanctuary Episode 1 (http://www.kumby.com/angel-sanctuary-episode-1/)

Angel Sanctuary Episode 2 (http://www.kumby.com/angel-sanctuary-episode-2/)

Angel Sanctuary Episode 3 (http://www.kumby.com/angel-sanctuary-episode-3/)

http://cards.angeliriel.com/Shitajikis/Wish%20List/AS.jpg

sukyspook

17-08-2009, 06:14 PM

sukyspook

17-08-2009, 06:27 PM

Bwa ha ha ha ha haaaaaa

Alex Jones - 17:13 Monday 17th August 09 - is talking about Satan worship and witchcraft in the Whitehouse - mentioning Michelle Obama and her mother, Obama's charms he carries in his pocket and Cherie and Tony Bliar too.....Yayyyyyyyy!!

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

Witchcraft in the White House

Posted by Kristen Atkinson on Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:11:43 PM

"The Obama White House is abuzz with talk of witchcraft by first grandmother, 72-year-old Marian Robinson, who lives in the White House residence. A close friend of Michelle Obama says the president is furious at his mother-in-law after learning that she was practicing Santeria, an African spirit cult, in the White House.

"The president is quite upset about this on two different levels. First, he is a committed Christian, no matter what his critics say about Reverend Wright. He is adamant that Sasha and Malia be raised with Christian influences. He does not want them to be involved with African voodoo. And secondly, he is worried about the political fallout if his enemies get wind of this. Rev. Wright was bad enough, but this would be political suicide," a close friend of Michelle’s confided.

Religion took center stage during the campaign last year when videos showed the Rev. Jeremiah Wright shouting "God damn America." Obama was forced to distance himself from the since-retired pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where he worshiped for 20 years. Many people were shocked by the videos and questioned Obama’s fitness to be president. Since taking office, Obama has avoided worshiping in public and now prefers the chapel at the presidential retreat at Camp David.

This is how it happened. Marian Robinson became increasingly frustrated as her husband, Fraser Robinson, was hobbled by multiple sclerosis in the late 1980s. The family pastor prayed with her and counseled her, but "she turned to Santeria in a desperate hope," Michelle’s friend said. "Michelle put her foot down when she heard that her mother took her dad to ceremonies where they did spells and trances, and sacrificed animals, chickens and goats I think. But Marian was desperate and kept going anyway, even when her husband was to sick to go with her. I don’t think the president knew anything about this earlier because it was before they met. Michelle and Craig (her brother) wanted to close the book on this and never talked about it again after their father died in 1991."

The first grandma appears to be worried about her health now, even though doctors pronounce her in good shape. "Marian invited an old friend from Chicago to visit her at the White House, and she performed a Santeria ceremony in the residence. When Michelle saw this woman, a voodoo priestess she recognized her from when her father was sick, she had a fit. When she told the president about it, he blew up and said, ‘No voodoo in the White House. Absolutely. I don’t care what you call it.’ As far as I know, it only happened once," the friend said.

The president was "totally in favor" when his mother-in-law moved into the White House as a live-in babysitter for 11-year-old Malia and 8-year-old Sasha. Obama reportedly told Michelle that her mother will have to go back to Chicago if she does not "stop this witchcraft mumbo-jumbo immediately" and ordered the Secret Service to not allow Marian’s friend to return to the White House."

http://atkinsonsadvice.blogtownhall.com/2009/08/15/witchcraft_in_the_white_house.thtml

Live feed to Alex Jones live:

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

tyler

18-08-2009, 01:52 AM

I really enjoyed both hours of Freeman on Ice radio. Thanks. I became a friend of Freeman on his My Space slot a few months ago and have corresponded with him. I love his stuff.

sukyspook

18-08-2009, 09:01 PM

I really enjoyed both hours of Freeman on Ice radio. Thanks. I became a friend of Freeman on his My Space slot a few months ago and have corresponded with him. I love his stuff.

Hi Tyler - I also enjoyed the Freeman/Red Ice mp3's - he's a treasure, as are Frederick and Henrik at Red Ice. I also enjoyed the Freddy Silva mp3's from Red Ice. I've never heard of him before but was delighted with many things he said.

Here's a collection of vids/mp3's that imo are most important so that we are 'forewarned' so that we can be spiritually 'forearmed':

Here's the Alex 'witchcraft/Satanism/Luciferian' worship in the Whitehouse part from last night - incidentally, he mentioned it briefly again tonight:

Alex Jones Aug 17/09 1st hr pt 1 - Witchcraft/Satanism/Luciferian in White House and as practised by 'the elite':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6gOrQl3kes&feature=related

Here's the link to the accompanying article on Whitehouse witchcraft from Infowars:

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
August 17, 2009

Voodoo in Obama’s White House

http://www.prisonplanet.com/voodoo-in-obama%E2%80%99s-white-house.html

If you were considering taking any vaccines - especially for "swine flu", you might want to listen to this first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXF_fbQWPRU

TREATSVILLE!!!!

Aug 17 09 Rense with Tim Rifat – Rothschild Domination of England

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2009/4rq7d8/rense_081709_hr1.mp3

Here's a rolling video presentation from Dr Jewel Pookrum who is incredibly uplifting and eloquent in what we should at least consider, if not put into practice immediately (imo, of course....)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZrhkGbhgw

I first heard Dr Pookrum talking about Melanin and the pineal gland/natural health here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZrhkGbhgw

Finally for now, here are two more mp3's from 17th August which you might find interesting - I certainly do, especially Adrian Salbuchi:

August 17 09 Rense with Jim Marrs – View from Marrs

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2009/4rq7d8/rense_081709_hr3.mp3

Aug 17 09 Rense with Adrian Salbuchi – the Big Recovery Lie

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2009/4rq7d8/rense_081709_hr2.mp3

2000 TUESDAY 18TH AUGUST - TEXE MARRS IS ABOUT TO TALK TO ALEX RE THE WITCHCRAFT/VOODOO/LUCIFERIANISM IN THE WHITE HOUSE:

Live feed:

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

Suke
xx

sukyspook

18-08-2009, 09:05 PM

Oops, I must have repeat-posted the Dr Pookrum 7 Circuits link....here's the Melanin one, hopefully (I didn't go back into the last post as it would have messed up the links no doubt):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9J0F5SLRsE&feature=related

- if that's the wrong one then there's something going on somewhere....

sukyspook

19-08-2009, 01:27 PM

Here's AJ with Texe Marrs from last evening on voodoo/Luciferian Satanists in the White House - 1st of 5 parts (around an hour in total - ads):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFT7e8A1Qkw&feature=related

Here are this (last) week's Shocktalk and Conspiracy Cafe - the latter I haven't managed to listen to yet - love 'em or not, there's some awesome info in Shocktalk:

August 13: THE BILL CLINTON CONNECTION TO KIM JONG-iL & THE FEDERAL RESERVE COLONY OF NORTH KOREA EXPOSED!

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13750/shock_talk_2009-08a-13.mp3

Consp Café with Timothy Spearman Aug 13 09

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13749/conspiracy_cafe_2009-08a-13_-_tim_spearman.mp3

Methinks 'they' are quietly thrashing around and may need some kind of 'event' to distract us.....but too many 'know' now that events throughout history are staged to advance the one-world Satanic/Luciferian agenda for total control of everything.

novymir

21-08-2009, 03:07 AM

sukyspook

21-08-2009, 10:22 AM

Hi sukyspook,
Do you want to see the "Demiurge"? But please realize, It knows not what It does. See this post, and notice to the right there is something focusing with concern on It.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1209321&postcount=38

Wow Novymir...

When I was a child I used to lie on the grass and watch the clouds cross the sky, make shapes and morph into others......the one on the right looks for all the world like a human face and it reminds me of a side view of Henry VIII - who, because of his wearing of 'the garter', according to Margaret Murray, held alliegance to Satan because he's 'god of the witches':

Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Britain's Royal Garter a witches' badge?

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/jun24_garter.gif

"1348 The exact day is not known, but some time between this day and August 6, King Edward III of England (1312 - '77) instituted the Order of the Garter, with St George as the patron.

During a festival at court, a lady happened to drop her garter. King Edward picked it up, and noticed that the others were giggling. He said, with displeasure, "Honi soit qui mal y pense" – "Shame to him who thinks ill of it". In the spirit of gallantry, perhaps to prevent any further impertinence, he put the garter around his own knee. Or, so it is said.

Traditionally, the lady was the Countess of Salisbury. The garter was an object of note in the year preceding June 24, 1348. Garters with the motto embroidered on were common, as were banners and couches with the motif, and a surcoat provided to the king in 1348 was covered with garters.

The Australian folklorist, Rabbi Dr Rudolph Brasch, says the story is hardly convincing. "Fourteenth-century ladies, even those attending royal functions, were not so finicky or modest that the mere loss of a garter would have caused them to blush or feel uncomfortable," he writes.

The choice of the garter may also owe something to the princess's girdle in the article on St George in The Golden Legend (Aurea Legenda, 1275), compiled by Jacobus de Voragine, which she used to lead the monster once St George had speared it with his lance.

British anthropologist and folklorist, Margaret Murray (1863 - 1963), advanced a different theory. In the14th Century the garter symbolized witches. To lose it was to give away her allegiance to Satan and was an acute danger ..."

http://wilsonsalmanac.blogspot.com/2009/06/britains-royal-garter-witches-badge.html

...and here's a page with the Royal Coat of Arms for the UK complete with garter and quote: "Honi soi qui mal y pense" (I'd better not copy the picture in as there's a pop up regarding purchase of images - strange as surely that image belongs to all of the British people?):

http://www.fleurdelis.com/royal.htm

I personally believe that the UK and probably London in the main, is the 'occult' centre of the satanic/luciferian/witchcraft/voodoo agenda for Satan's little helpers to aid him to become physical ruler of the world. (See Rik Clay's work on the ZION/2012 site. . .).
That symbol appears - or used to appear - on legal documents issued by 'Her Majesty's Government' making all 'subjects' guilty of witchcraft too by association (imo, of course!).

I can't comment other than that on the pictures Novymir as I don't really know what I'm looking at but I am in no doubt that 'forces' are being 'interracted-with' in 'their' quest for control of humanity, which is why we're told, in Revelation 18:4:

"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

I wonder if the constant repetition of the word 'sacrifice' in connection to our soldiers being killed in Afghanistan has anything to do with those images? Perhaps the blood sacrifices are being made to that very demiurge?:

Brown expressing "grief" at the sacrifice of troops in Afghanistan ….00:47”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8203875.stm

(one reporter got three mentions of 'sacrifice' in his report within 15" earlier this week...).

Just by coincidence (!!) I'm re-watching this video from Lenon Honor about such 'entities' and control of humanity - it's a bit of a weird production but interesting nonetheless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmwyt3T0yY4&feature=related

If you have any links or more info Novymir, I'd love to know more about the images - I just remembered Spiritworld by Chris Everard which talks about the 'Ether' where spirits are supposed to 'live' around the Earth...

Thanks very much for posting - I've also just remembered some weird 'goings on' in the sky of late - as if chemtrails really were being 'eaten' by sylphs, or whatever they really might be, but sure as eggs is eggs, there are some strange things happening 'up there'.

Suke
x

novymir

21-08-2009, 06:06 PM

sukyspook

22-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Hi sukyspook,
Yeah, that face is pretty obvious, don't know who/what it is, it lacks Henry's beard though..
My 1st impression was it was showing an expression of disapproval.

The arrows are pointing to facial features in the larger one to the left. The circles are around the hands, with a male and female human in each one(dualism/polarity?).
There's alot of other stuff in there too, of a seemingly demonic nature. There's also the small face of a human female looking upward around the mid-section(about where a bellybutton would be) of the larger image.

I'm glad you can at least see that face, there is no way I can accept any of this is random chance, and I really doubt some human at nasa airbrushed this stuff in. It means something, beyond my own individual requirements. It is of a more universal nature.
I gotta wonder if D.Icke is/was consciously aware of it, there's a reason it's on the cover of his book too.

I just came across this video update Novymir which you might find interesting given that we're investigating the 'prince of the power of the air' amongst Lucifer/Satan's many names/titles and his 'works':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgHUZXgNAWo&feature=related

I only just began to listen to last week's 'Space' mp3 last night and I highly recommend it, even though it's 3 hours long. According to Gary 'the Spaceman' Bell, we're being made to re-live 1969 - and it's very, VERY interesting, stopping me in my tracks several times:

Aug 15 09

TOPIC: the August dispute moon, the Age of Aquarius, the Manson Family, Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme, Rosemary's Baby, the Beatles, Tavistock, the Process Church, Kenneth Anger, Altamont...

TIME: 3:16:49

SIZE: 33.8 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?ijg1kkynydj
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZZAPL7P7

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/641948747988628a/

sukyspook

22-08-2009, 08:58 PM

Bobby Hemmitt: on Sacrifice/Haarp/films.....VERY interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEYNRr_cBd4&feature=PlayList&p=5456C702A552DF81&index=0&playnext=1

Haarp???:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_Standard_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg

I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING BOBBY SAYS....but he sure makes more sense than many in 'the system' and the 'reality' we're supposed to just go along with...

Illuminati, Satanism and UFO Conspiracy part 3/11 - GAOTU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRH3NlgUvjA&NR=1

sukyspook

25-08-2009, 11:11 AM

I suspected long ago that there was/is a link between the Ephod - the Priest's Breastplate - and jewels in crowns worn by 'royalty', in particular, EIIR and the Saxe Coburg Gothe crowd 'ruling over' us here in the UK...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/PLATE4DX.jpg

I also believe there is a connection (an understatement!) between those jewels and the description of Lucifer in The Bible:

Ezekiel 28:(KJV)

"12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=33&chapter=28&version=9

Story of Lucifer – His Origin

snip

"This passage seems to be addressed to the "king of Tyre." In reality, it goes beyond the king to the one who is behind the evil king of Tyre. This passage also has near and far prophecy about Lucifer/Satan because although his final end is already sure, it has not happened yet and it occurs after the final judgment (Revelation 20:7-10). In both the Isaiah passage and the Ezekiel passage, the representation is not of Lucifer/Satan as confined to his own person but his working in and the consummating of his plans through earthly kings and rulers who take to themselves divine honors and who, whether they actually know this or not, rule in the spirit and under the aims of Satan. "For our struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places" (Ephesians 6:12, NIV). Satan is the principality behind the powers of this corrupt world system."

http://www.allaboutgod.com/story-of-lucifer.htm

Ergo - was the 'King of Tyre' (root word of tyrant) possessed by the spirit of Lucifer?

I finally watched the last few parts of Spiritworld II Alien Kabbalah last night.....I wasn't disappointed with what I saw and had a 'track-stopping' moment regarding the breastplate which for me, explains quite a bit of how we've been 'had' and continue thus.

Spirit World 2 - 11 - Alien Kabbalah

Ephod and Teraphim spirit contact – priest breastplate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI6zU-xk8T0&NR=1

Spirit World 2 – 12 Alien Kabbalah

inc Grimoire of Lucifer and First Grimoire Verum of Lucifer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCyc9BMgZ0&feature=related

...and then I came across this article this morning, with another video embedded - having been somewhat of a fan of Eric Phelps for several years, (I bought Vatican Assassins 3)....I'm once again reconsidering the numerous accusations that Eric might well be just another of 'their' 'fronts' to distract us from the real perps:

The Jesuit Hoax:

http://zioncrimefactory.wordpress.com/

Hmmmmm......

I've just begun to listen to this 2 x hour mp3 from Darryl Bradford Smith with his guest David Pidcock and in the first half hour is a pretty good summation of our predicament:

Aug 20 09 Hr 1 Darryl Bradford Smith/I Am The Witness dot com with David Pidcock

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/David.Pidcock/TFC.SMITH.PIDCOCK.p1.20-08-2009.mp3

Aug 20 09 Hr 2 DBS with David Pidcock

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/David.Pidcock/TFC.SMITH.PIDCOCK.pt2.20-08-2009.mp3

Then there's another great mp3 from Shocktalk with Lenny and Mrs Steele - she's at it again, interrupting when she could let Lenny talk....sigh....however, patience is a virtue so we have to tolerate to investigate!:

Shocktalk Aug 20 09

The Biggest Conspiracy Secret Revealed: Eustace Mullins Exposes The Federal Reserve Privately Owned and Controlled by Ruling Elite Banker Families.

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13845/shock_talk_2009-08a-20.mp3

Also, Conspiracy Cafe from the same evening:

Conspiracy Café Aug 20 09

Dorothy this ain't Kansas on Conspiracy Cafe‏

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13846/conspiracy_cafe_2009-08a-20.mp3

Finally, Gary The Spaceman Bell from Saturday 22nd:

Aug 22 09

TOPIC: the Aquarian conspiracy, Hurricane Bill, firearms & Obama town hall meetings, Caster Semenya, Swine Flu, the Lockerbie bomber, 1969, drugs, The Beatles, future shocks & Tavistock, the fifth dimension, Woodstock, Elvis...

TIME: 3:22:14

SIZE: 34.7 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?injrehnnzto
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q9BKQ9PA

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/64523711318a51b2/

Enjoy!

sukyspook

26-08-2009, 09:55 AM

From Icke Headlines today - I've named it: THE NEW TOWER OF BABEL! -fools! At one time I would have been 'over the moon' about this (pardon the pun) but now, having discovered that NASA is just on 'T' short of 'Satan' and that the likes of Jack Parsons/L Ron Hubbard etc were all part of occult meddlings for and on behalf of NASA I have a 180degree view of that 'organisation' now.

Space elevator faces reality

Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:46 PM by Alan Boyle

snip

LiftPort's Web site is still counting down toward his goal of putting a real live space elevator into operation by 2031. But Laine's years-long quest to turn the concept into an actual business left him hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt by 2007, with a legal cloud hanging over his head.

snip

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/17/2033079.aspx

Love him or loathe him - AJ 'tells it like it is' - I've already posted this trailer on Guido Fawkes site this morning -AND THEY LET IT THROUGH (for now...) which is great as many lamestream journos and mp's visit that site!! - http://order-order.com :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u5Nd9i1UiA

Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America(not my description - but for its time - mind blowing!)

Comment from another forum: "FireZeus, I happen to have an original copy of the 1955 books by Emmanuel Josephson, "Roosevelt's Communist Manifesto" that has an original reprint of Clinton Roosevelts "The Science of Government Based on Natural Laws" as plagarized from Adam Weishaupt's plan for world government finished in May 1, 1776. It was passed from Weishaupt, to Mazzini, to Clinton to Albert Pike via the Masons link to Karl Marx after 1841. It was to set up WWI, WWII and two Russian Revolutions in the 20th century"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4

STOP PRESS - new Tim Rifat mp3 coming later today! (oh joy oh rapture lol).

sukyspook

28-08-2009, 02:29 PM

This is me talking:

If it's 'fake', it's not of the Natural Order of life, the universe and everything.
If it's not of the Natural Order, it's of Luciferian/Satanic/Demonic/adversarial origin ie it's not of whoever or whatever is the Divine Force in the universe that some call God.

I know that's a sweeping generalisation but if you've seen the following article, you'll know what I mean hopefully. Please think about all the artificial ways 'they' are changing all of our lives - none more important imo than GM foods and the climate change scam to name just 2 of very many ways:

Thursday, August 27, 2009
'Fake trees' could fight climate change

Forests of "fake trees" should be planted across the country to reduce the impact of climate change, according to a study.

"The scientists argue that a single synthetic tree could capture ten tons of carbon dioxide from the air every day

Experts claim the devices would be able to soak up carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. 100,000 of them would remove the carbon emissions of every car, lorry and bus in Britain.

The scientists argue that a single synthetic tree, which would be two-thirds as tall as a wind turbine, could capture ten tons of carbon dioxide from the air every day, making it thousands of times more efficient at absorbing CO2 than a real tree.

The study, by the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, into how technology could prevent climate change argues that using technology to remove CO2 from the atmosphere could buy the world vital time.

The trees, which would cost around £15,000, would be coated with synthetic materials that absorb CO2, which would then be removed and stored underground in depleted oil and natural gas reservoirs.

The study also calls for pots of algae that absorb CO2 from the atmosphere to be used to line buildings. The algae could then be used as green biofuels for cars.

Painting buildings white can also help reduce the amount of solar radiation absorbed by the Earth, keeping it cool. The institution wants millions of pounds to be invested in research on technology to beat the threat of global warming to Britain.

Dr Tim Fox, one of the report's authors, said: "Geo-engineering may give us those extra few years of transition to a low- carbon world and prevent any one of the future climate change scenarios we all fear."

The report also claims that unless we act soon global warming will continue unabated and predicts that global temperatures could increase as much as 6c by 2100, creating food and water shortages, sea level rises and massive refugee crises."

http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/2009/08/fake-trees-could-fight-climate-change.html

'They' are usurpers of the Natural Order of everything, but ultimately what I refer to as God - which I see as a word that encompasses everything that is in the Natural Order of Creation.

I 'feel' the truth of this in my heart and try my best to live within said Natural Order.

'Their' entire agenda is to become 'god' of this 'realm/dimension/planet' and to retain it in its current 'third dimensional' state where 'they' can cream off our sweat equity ie money and the energy/ideas and very life force that maintains us. Now that 'they' virtually own everything they only need a certain number of us to maintain 'them' as they wish to live here hence, imo, the numerous bio-weapons such as 'swine flu' etc but of course, food and environment are also now 'weaponized'....

Dr Phil Valentine who I've only 'discovered' this last couple of weeks pretty much sums up what I 'feel' and believe here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAQEqVbg4_4

I've only watched p1 myself just now but feel it's vital to share it so that others can consider it too if they haven't already done so. Now that the summer holidays are drawing to a close, 'they' will ramp up 'their' psycho-spiritual warfare on us and we have to be spiritually armed to be able to 'stand' as in Ephesians 6 (whether you believe The Bible or not, there are spritual guidelines within it whatever even Dr Valentine or anyone else says (imo) and boy does he have a lot to say about Christianity!!).

Here's the promised Rense/Rifat mp3 which isn't as scintillating (lol) as usual but nonetheless is required listening to see things from Tim's pov:

Aug 25 09 Rense with Rifat – Future War

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2009/4rq7d8/rense_082509_hr1.mp3

Keep 'em peeled!!

Suke
x

sukyspook

29-08-2009, 02:20 PM

I should be decorating, amongst many, MANY other chores I can't seem to get around to....however, there's too much going on in the 'unseen' ie spiritual/metaphysical/biological to worry about decorating imo!

I'm still watching (in between the latest Project Camelot video - that's another story....) Dr Phil Valentine's awesome series: THE MATRIX, MELANIN, THE BLACK DOT AND MIND CONTROL". Phil has just takled about 'X' genes or 'Xeno genes' at 5' 35" here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6xqmtLliHA&feature=related

When I heard the word 'Xeno' I remembered that the US mercenary corporation 'Blackwater' has been renamed 'XE'. I also remembered a mother of an ex-UK army squaddie who became a mercenary (not Blackwater/XE) and subsequently, because of his mental state killed two of his colleagues:

The human timebomb: why was he given Iraq job?

He faced assault charges, had been fired and suffered from post-traumatic stress. So why did a security firm in Iraq give Daniel Fitzsimons, who is now accused of killing two people, a job with a gun?

By Terri Judd

Friday, 14 August 2009

A British military contractor accused of shooting dead two of his colleagues in Iraq was hired despite being sacked from another security firm and having a long history of psychiatric illness, The Independent has learnt.

Daniel Fitzsimons, 29, is in Iraqi custody facing charges of premeditated murder after the shooting of fellow ArmorGroup colleagues Paul McGuigan and Darren Hoar and wounding Iraqi worker Arkhan Mahdi. If convicted he faces execution.

Last night, in an interview with The Independent, his family revealed that just months before being hired by ArmorGroup, a psychiatric report had found Mr Fitzsimons was suffering from severe post-traumatic stress with repeated flashbacks, nightmares and anxiety attacks.

end

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-human-timebomb-why-was-he-given-iraq-job-1771861.html

READ THE COMMENTS TO THAT ARTICLE - here's just one which, in the context of Phil Valentine's wonderful, enlightening AND ESSENTIAL presentation, confirms what Phil is talking about:

mindsmusing09 wrote:
Friday, 14 August 2009 at 08:07 am (UTC)

"BECAUSE HE WAS THE PERFECT KILLING MACHINE!!!! WHAT A STUPID ARTICLE! WHAT A STUPID QUESTION! YOU DON'T SEND SERVICEMAN TO IRAQ AND HOPE THEY'LL NUTURE EVERYONE. THE WAR IN IRAQ IS NOT ABOUT PEACE .... IT'S ABOUT WAR, THE NEGATION OF A HIERACHY, A TAKE OVER BID. THE MILITARY OPERATION IS DESIGNED TO KILL. DON'T YOU KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF WAR TERRI JUDD? During the First World War most soldiers lacked the capacity to kill; so they changed their training from a bullseye to a human looking target. ~That only increased killing to 12%. And most returned completely traumatised - what we now call Post Traumatic Stress ... and still do. In order to maximise killing soldiers are trained TO KILL HUMANS using various techniques to ensure maximum success. They still haven't worked out how to minimise PTSD from developing but they are trying. (Not through love for humanity but to minimise their responsibility). And so those who go out there fairly normal, return like the chap you are talking about, screwed up. Read about the history of DARPA, and about their current military operations, how PSTD in soldiers is related to empathy and fear and how through Gene Therapy the Military Operation want to switch off those genes ... to minimise the impact of war and their after care responsibility and then write a decent article that informs the public about WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON and stope leading people astray with your whimsical, far fetched, romantic ideas."

(my emphasis)

On the subject of Project Camelot. I've spent hours watching/listening to their i/v's. I will continue to do so. I didn't enjoy the one they did with Steven Greer as I thought Kerry was quite rude to him.... IMO nothing should be dismissed in our search for Truth. Our own conscious awareness should let us know what's true and what's bullpoop. (However, I have no time for Nick Pope who I met a few years ago and who dismissed me and my own UFO sighting as if I was gum on his shoe...).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULJDdp0GFsM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectcamelot.net%2F&feature=player_embedded

I HOPE YOU CAN FIND THE TIME TO WATCH THE ENTIRE PHIL VALENTINE PRESENTATION, PART 1 here, the rest are easy to find listed on the right - this is essential information, IMO for the ongoing bio/psycho/spiritual war against all of humanity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAQEqVbg4_4&feature=PlayList&p=24B84F6DAF613066&index=0

coco

29-08-2009, 10:04 PM

Fake trees to replace the job of natural trees? :rolleyes: Good grief!

sukyspook

31-08-2009, 10:32 AM

Fake trees to replace the job of natural trees? :rolleyes: Good grief!

Not only fake trees now Coco:

The Sunday Times
August 30, 2009

Man-made volcanoes may cool Earth

Jonathan Leake, Environment Editor

THE Royal Society is backing research into simulated volcanic eruptions, spraying millions of tons of dust into the air, in an attempt to stave off climate change.

The society will this week call for a global programme of studies into geo-engineering — the manipulation of the Earth’s climate to counteract global warming — as the world struggles to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

It will suggest in a report that pouring sulphur-based particles into the upper atmosphere could be one of the few options available to humanity to keep the world cool.

The intervention by the Royal Society comes amid tension ahead of the United Nations-sponsored climate talks in Copenhagen in December to agree global cuts in carbon dioxide emissions. Preliminary discussions have gone so badly that many scientists believe geo-engineering will be needed as a “plan B”.

Ken Caldeira, an earth scientist at Stanford University, California, and a member of a Royal Society working group on geo-engineering, said dust sprayed into the stratosphere in volcanic eruptions was known to cool the Earth by reflecting light back into space.

“If I had a dollar for geo-engineering research I would put 90 cents of it into stratospheric aerosols and 10 cents into everything else," said Caldeira.

snip

rest at:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6814912.ece

These entities (because I can't call them human beings) are insane. They cannot accept that Earth is, in my words, a kind of 'closed' system and if we live in harmony with the Natural Order of things then we decrease many risks NATURALLY of 'man made global warming' and the like...I can't say that it'll ever be 'perfect' for each of our ideas of that idyll are different, but at least with sane and compassionate people - who know all about the ego and the dangers thereof - the world could be a much happier place to live - but of course, the FEAR FACTOR is what keeps many of us like rabbits in the headlights, functioning in 'fight or flight' mode which is how 'they' like it!

Their ancestors gave us the Agricultural and Industrial revolutions (without a thought for pollution then because there were $£profits involved....); WAR; genetic manipulation; money - possibly one of the most evil of all their 'inventions' as it enables so many other things, including death and destruction; nuclear devices; Haarp; space travel for nefarious purposes (apart from freeze dried food; velcro; Teflon and other such 'innovations') but at a severe cost to our brothers and sisters down through the centuries down to today with their fake trees, fake volcanoes, fake money system that has the whole world tied up in it....sigh.

DeadManMusings is on a similar course today and describes 'them' perfectly:

"Thus they call upon the forces of Satan to bring about the destruction of mankind and the so-called wisdom of Lucifer (Platonic and Socratic Philosophy) to rebuild it. One fact remains: Biological warfare can kill far more individuals and create far more "Chaos" than any other weapon."

He's asking if the Knights Templar used Bubonic Plague as a kind of 'pay-back':

snip

"The Knights Templar were a military and religious order that also accumulated great wealth through their banking and lending practices. They were disbanded and brought under the Inquisition in 1307. They transferred their massive gold and silver holdings to Switzerland and turned their fleet of vessels into Pirates that plundered the vessels of Catholic Europe.

The Order was organized after Plato's Republic with the "Philosopher Kings" at its head; the second level was the Knights military leadership and the third was its Merchant and Banking Leadership. The Order was reformed as free-masonry and the top three degrees are reserved for the same three levels of leadership. These top three levels became known as the Rosicrucians at first, and now form our present Illuminati leadership. They worship the god Lucifer and his mythical nemesis Satan.

Their motto is and has always been "Order out of Chaos"."

snip

"The use of biological warfare as a military weapon has quite the history:"

" Military organizations have used biological weapons many times. One BW event occurred in 1346 when the Mongols used plague (Yersinia pest is) at the Battle of Kaffa. More recently, during the French and Indian War, the British used smallpox (Variola) against the Delaware Indians and also are alleged to have used smallpox against Gen George Washington's forces during the Revolutionary War. (3) The Germans used anthrax (Bacillus anthracis) and glanders (Pseudomonas mallei) against the horses and mules of the US Army and its Allies in World War I. The Japanese used typhoid (Salmonella typhi) in World War II in direct attacks on approaching Russian forces. (4) They also used over 16 different BW agents (plague, anthrax, etc.) on Chinese forces and citizens, US prisoners of wax; British detainees, and others. Ken Alibek, former head of the civilian branch of the Soviet offensive biological program, has unearthed information that leads him to believe that the Soviet army may have used tularemia (Francisella tulare nsis) to halt the oncoming German army in World War II. (5) The Textbook for Military Medicine, published in 1997, states that an estimated 10,923 deaths resulted from the Soviet use of chemical and biological warfare (CBW) agents in Afghanistan, Laos, and Kampuchea (Cambodia)." (Source)

snip

Here's the rest of the article:

http://deadmanmusings.blogspot.com/2009/08/did-knights-templar-cause-plague.html

Henry Makow's 'take' on 'them' today:

Liberal Jews, Sex & The New Satanic Order

August 31, 2009

snip

"How? They use the media to make people think self-destructive behavior is advanced and "cool."

Who? Illuminati bankers like the Rothschild are the mainspring of the "Elite" and control the mass media. They belong to the Sabbatean movement, a Satanic Jewish heresy of the 17th Century which many Jews opposed. The Sabbateans went underground and infiltrated Gentile society through fake conversion and intermarriage. They took over Freemasonry and used it to subvert all important social institutions and political movements, including Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Liberalism and Zionism. Their headquarters is the Bank of England and the City of London."

snip

"They are Luciferians and don't even know it."

- I wonder how many of 'them' and their lackies can be included in Henry's classic 'one liner' statement there lol!!

The rest of the article is here:

http://www.henrymakow.com/liberal_jews_sex_the_new_satan.html

Here are this week's Space, Consp Cafe and Shock Talk, none of which I've managed to listen to yet as I DID get around to doing some decorating and gardening lol!

Aug 29 09
TOPIC: Ted Kennedy, 1969 & the Age of Aquarius, Muammar al-Gaddafi, musical voodoo, Crowley, Chislehurst Caves, the U2 'claw'...

TIME: 3:22:12

SIZE: 34.7 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?wnmmmzlyyyn
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0TZ3OMQQ

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/648669530b2cd11c/

Cloak Shock Talk

Aug 27 09

Shock Talk Broke Through The Steel Propaganda Curtain of the Military Media News: Exposing The Nomenclature of The Lady Diana Assassination Cabal

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/13944/shock_talk_2009-08a-27.mp3

Conspiracy Café

Aug 27 09

Up to your neck It could be a conspiracy?‏

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/13945/conspiracy_cafe_2009-08a-27.mp3

I'm now on to p2 (in small snippets) of Project Camelot Exopolitics Speakers Panel and it's very interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbrXvQqnBs&NR=1

Suke
x

coco

31-08-2009, 04:04 PM

They should leave volcanic activity to Nature. I am not a scientist but I feel that all of this fake tree and man-initiated volcanic activity could well bring ruin.

Be that the case I have confidence that life will persevere on Earth but quite possibly without Man. Taxing people on carbons will not solve a thing. The funds will be misappropriated sooner or later instead of going to the efforts intended - if those efforts will be of any merit anyway - if those funds are ever intended to go to said efforts. Sorry, I'm becoming more skeptical as I age.

tyler

01-09-2009, 03:44 AM

Spaceman! Wooooooooeeeee!

Three hours of amazing stuff. Thanks Suki..

What he had to say about rock music, Jimmy Paige, U2, the Claw stage.

It all falls into place and is all so interlinked.

sukyspook

01-09-2009, 09:19 AM

Hi Tyler! Glad you're still popping in...yes, especially the first half of Space had a few track-stopping moments for me...especially the Kennedy death, John John being shot down on his way to Martha's Vineyard and the fact that Barry Soetoro was in 'The Vineyard' around the time of Kennedy's death....incredible but I'll do a spot of research around Barry's arrival and Edward's death for the actual timing....nonetheless one of the best dot-connecting Space progs to date - that being said, there's always some little snippet in there most weeks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTZNc2imBgU

I also enjoyed this week's Shock Talk even though Mrs Steele still can't 'button it' lol! I always have to listen again as there are usually interruptions around here. I also enjoyed George on Conspiracy Cafe - it's nice that he and Tim are back together. It was Timothy who used to have the show 'Shaking a Spear' from the website of the same name (which is an interesting read) and HIS guest was George! Then George started 'the Cafe', Tim couldn't afford to pay for his own show any more so now is back guesting with George. They work very well together imo.

After somewhat of a quiet weekend "news"-wise, I found myself back at the Venetian Black Nobility/Guelphs/Atlanteans/Phoenicians/British Empire etc and as I hadn't seen these vids from Michael Tsarion (where IS he?) I thought you might be interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-hxj2dcy0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaWcIuE6W_U&feature=related

Those tie in nicely with this article which I now remember is how I got back to the Venetians/Phoenicians - imo it's a very good article:

Rebuilding a Nation by Mike Robinson

Britain is in a state of collapse. That must seem like a redundant statement, since just about everyone recognises it. Things are getting bad enough that even our immigration “problem” seems to be solving itself.

When a society like ours is in a state of collapse, we start to feel pressure. It’s not real pressure – its manufactured – a combination of deliberate government policy and an insidious psychological operation. It’s imposed from outside ourselves by politicians, the media, each other. There are too many people, not enough resources, the roads are too full, we have to stand on the train. Before we know it, we’re willing to accept health care rationing, eugenics, euthanasia and policy documents(pdf) from puppet-masters of the next King stating that we need to reduce our population by 40 million. We’re willing to accept the tearing down of our institutions, of our Constitution(pdf), of our education. After all, we have over-extended ourselves. Procreated too freely. Borrowed too much."

snip

"Well, here’s my policy."

"* Abolish the Bank of England. What does it do that’s of value?
* Build a very high wall around the City of London. Let the City within a city become just that. They’re costing us too much. Seal it off and leave them to it.
* Abolish fractional reserve banking.
* All national currency is to be issued by the Treasury, and entered into the economy by spending it on projects which keep people alive, educate them, train them and employ them.
* Build our nation."

snip

read the rest at:

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2009/08/31/rebuilding-a-nation/

I hadn't realised just how much Lyndon Larouche and Webster Tarpley had done on this topic:

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/contents.htm#venice

I notice that the thread has lost a 'star' but we can cope with demotion lol, however I do think that whoever has described the thread as 'god/satan/religion' has maybe only seen selected snippets...
I think the wording to describe this thread should read something like "exposing manipulation of humanity" or similar if anyone has the know-how to change it. It's certainly NOT just about 'god/satan/religion' which might put some people off investigating the content...

If you haven't already seen this from Project Camelot, the second half of it is enjoyable and VERY interesting - I liked hearing what Gary McKinnon is alleged to have REALLY discovered!! - no wonder the US military are peeing their pants lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbrXvQqnBs

Love,
Suke
x

sukyspook

02-09-2009, 10:17 AM

sukyspook

03-09-2009, 10:15 AM

I don't have a problem with people being 'good citizens', so long as they KNOW that those who want them to behave as 'good citizens' are manipulated by murdering; thieving; lying; evil entities with an agenda to control the planet and everything/everyone on it - and those who would look like a Messiah are either aware or maybe ignorant of their participation in that evil agenda:

I originally posted the date of Obama's planned address to students as 9th September - it's actually 8th September 2009

The date was only secondary - I'm only concerned about his having direct access to their and subsequently OUR young people/children's minds...however, I don't think the choice of date for this address - so close to another 911 'anniversary' - is a coincidence...

President Obama’s Address to Students Across America September 8, 2009 (notes for schools)

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009

So somebody else also "gets it":

snip

"But fundamentally, it doesn't really matter what it is that Obama is planning to tell American children on Tuesday. What does matter is that it is totally inappropriate for him to be addressing children directly at a time when they are away from their parents, and a captive audience in their classrooms. State indoctrination of children is a hallmark of totalitarian government. Don't let it happen here."

end

http://bytestyle.tv/content/indoctrination-alert-protect-your-kids-sept-8th

I'm currently enjoying watching this series for about the 5th time and haven't even made it to the end yet! - please listen carefully to what Phil says about manipulation of humanity via the four elements - 'they', imo, have 'insider information' about how Creation/Natural Order works and use it against us (which I already 'knew') and is a very important part of the agenda (can we say 'fallen angels'/Lucifer passing on inside info to King Solomon or the Moorish people earlier?)

Phil Valentine Part 1 "Lock Down USA" (this is dated on youtube at Jan 08 but it was done quite a while before that):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXSPAcy3XI

Aseer, Duke of Tiers on Real Talk - 1 of 9 (?) WARNING, SOUND ANOMALIES BUT TURN IT UP WHEN ASEER IS TALKING - this is very recent as Aseer talks about Michael Jackson - WOAH!! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL-diOdRCI&feature=related

MJ Pepsi hair on fire - OMG!! I'd never seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TvbsTE-ZE

I hadn't realised how much animosity there was between Michael and Sony...possibly a major conspiracy there (oh no, not another one).

NB - All this talk about Melanin is in no way about black supremacism IMO. I believe that fully awakened black people 'know' what fully awake and aware caucasions also know - that we've been 'had' and that only WE, individually then collectively by coming together can change our "reality".

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE THE DESCRIPTION FROM THE RATING - THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE "MANIPULATION OF HUMANITY" AND NOT ABOUT GOD/SATAN/RELIGION...thank you in anticipation.

flereous

03-09-2009, 01:39 PM

Lucifer isnt evil. Hes really sweet loving and caring.

coco

03-09-2009, 09:52 PM

sukyspook

03-09-2009, 10:21 PM

Suky, I heard that a number of parents across the nation intend to keep their kids from school on the day of Obama's speech in an effort to prevent them from viewing it for the reason cited by the person you quoted:

"But fundamentally, it doesn't really matter what it is that Obama is planning to tell American children on Tuesday. What does matter is that it is totally inappropriate for him to be addressing children directly at a time when they are away from their parents, and a captive audience in their classrooms. State indoctrination of children is a hallmark of totalitarian government. Don't let it happen here."

Hi Coco - yeah, the Obamanation (yet another lol) issue was covered on AJ's show tonight and has several articles on Rense.com front page....over at god like forum too....good that others are truly waking up. If you haven't watched the Phil Valentine 'Lock Down USA' series yet, he speaks at length about the Prussian origins of the US education system (and subsequently UK) and the intentions behind it - all becoming reality as planned - sigh...

I've just been gobsmacked when watching a video in a relatively new series: 'The Industry' - here are the lyrics to the song that floored me, I've heard it several times in the background and so never concentrated on the lyrics - boy did I have a surprise!:

JAY-Z LUCIFER (PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST) LYRICS

Lucifer don of da mornin' im gonna chase you out of earth!
Lucifer, Lucifer don of da mornin'
[Im from the murder capitol where we murder for capital]

Lucifer don of da mornin' im gonna chase you out of earth!
Lucifer don of da mornin'
(Kanyeeze you did it again you a genius nigga)
[So you niggas change your attitude 'fore they askin what happened to you]

[Verse One]
Lord forgive him
He got them dark forces in him
But he also got a rightous cause for sinnin
Them a murder me so i gotta murder them first
Emergency doctors performin procedures
Jesus
I ain't tryin to be facetious
But "Vengance is mine" said the Lord
You said it better than all
Leave niggas on deaths door
Breathin off res-pir-rators
for killin my best boy, HATERS
On permenant hiatus as i escape
In the Maybach Benz
Fly this then Sanaa Lathan
Pumpin "Brown Sugar" by D'Angelo
In Los Angeles
Like an evangelist
I can introduce you to your maker
Bring you closer to nature
Ashes after they cremate you bastards
Hope you been readin your psalms and chapters
Payin your tithes being good Catholics
I'm comin

[Chorus]
Lucifer, Lucifer don of da mornin' im gonna chase you out of earth!
Lucifer, Lucifer sin of da mornin'
[See, See, See
I'm from the murder capitol where we murder for capital]

Lucifer, Lucifer son of da mornin' im gonna chase you out of earth!
Lucifer, Lucifer son of da mornin'
[See, See, See
So you niggas change your attitude 'for they askin what happened to you]

[Verse Two]
Yes
This is Holy war
I wet cha all with the Holy water
Spray from the Heckler Koch auto
Matic all the static shall cease to exist
Like a sabbatical i throw a couple at you
Take six
Spread love to all of my dead thugs
I'll pour out a little Louie to a head above
Yes Sir
And when i perish
The meek shall inherit the earth
Until that time it's on a poppin Church
Like Don Bishop
The fifth upon cock either
Lift up your soul or give you the Holly ghost please
I leave ya in somebodys Cathedral
And stuntin like Evil Knievel
I'll let you see where that bright light lead you
The more you talk the more you irkin us
The more you gonna need memorial services
The Black Album's second verse is like
Devil's Pie save some dessert for us

Man i gotta get my soul right
I gotta get these Devils out my life
These cowards gonna make a nigga ride
They won't be happy til somebody dies

Man i gotta get my soul right
'Fore i'm locked up for my whole life
Evertime it seems it's all right
Somebody want they soul to rise
(I'll chase you off of this Earth)

[Verse Three]
I got dreams of holdin a Nine milla
To Bobs killa
Askin him "why?" as my eyes fill up
These days i can't wake up with a dry pillow
Gone but not forgotten holmes i still feel ya
So...Curse the day that birthed the bastard
Who caused your Church mass
Reverse the crash
Reverse the blast
And reverse the car
Reverse the day, and there you are
Bob Allah
Lord forgive him we all have sinned
But Bobs a good dude please let him in
And if you feel in my heart that i long for revenge
Please blame it on the sun of the mournin
Thanks Again

(my bold emphases - Suke)

http://www.justsomelyrics.com/10372/Jay-Z-Lucifer-(Produced-By-Kanye-West)-Lyrics

and here's the video I was watching - the sound and speech are quite difficult to hear/decipher but I'll be watching the rest in the next few days - Prof Griff explains about Kanye, JZ and the masons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W64HUWQ5M8A&feature=related

p33 - INCLUDES SECTION ON SACRIFICE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBavjuSXxkU&feature=related

Suke
x

sukyspook

06-09-2009, 02:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgxuLhjNXeQ&feature=related

judy101

06-09-2009, 08:09 PM

So somebody else also "gets it":

snip

"But fundamentally, it doesn't really matter what it is that Obama is planning to tell American children on Tuesday. What does matter is that it is totally inappropriate for him to be addressing children directly at a time when they are away from their parents, and a captive audience in their classrooms. State indoctrination of children is a hallmark of totalitarian government. Don't let it happen here."

end

http://bytestyle.tv/content/indoctrination-alert-protect-your-kids-sept-8th

I'm currently enjoying watching this series for about the 5th time and haven't even made it to the end yet! - please listen carefully to what Phil says about manipulation of humanity via the four elements - 'they', imo, have 'insider information' about how Creation/Natural Order works and use it against us (which I already 'knew') and is a very important part of the agenda (can we say 'fallen angels'/Lucifer passing on inside info to King Solomon or the Moorish people earlier?)

Phil Valentine Part 1 "Lock Down USA" (this is dated on youtube at Jan 08 but it was done quite a while before that):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXSPAcy3XI

Aseer, Duke of Tiers on Real Talk - 1 of 9 (?) WARNING, SOUND ANOMALIES BUT TURN IT UP WHEN ASEER IS TALKING - this is very recent as Aseer talks about Michael Jackson - WOAH!! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL-diOdRCI&feature=related

MJ Pepsi hair on fire - OMG!! I'd never seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TvbsTE-ZE

I hadn't realised how much animosity there was between Michael and Sony...possibly a major conspiracy there (oh no, not another one).

NB - All this talk about Melanin is in no way about black supremacism IMO. I believe that fully awakened black people 'know' what fully awake and aware caucasions also know - that we've been 'had' and that only WE, individually then collectively by coming together can change our "reality".

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE THE DESCRIPTION FROM THE RATING - THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE "MANIPULATION OF HUMANITY" AND NOT ABOUT GOD/SATAN/RELIGION...thank you in anticipation.
this is an amazing guy but I loved LOVED LOVED THIS video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAQEqVbg4_4&feature=related truly amazing stuff.

tyler

06-09-2009, 10:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwDSMGJzr8

sukyspook

07-09-2009, 08:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwDSMGJzr8

Oh Tyler - how much I enjoyed your build up, your facial expressions and your rendition of the poem...until....you reached the Sophie Rayworth part.....I had to stop watching...

However, I WILL go back in a short while and watch again as the poem is 'spot on' as far as I watched.

I've been doing boring stuff like gardening and decorating and so haven't been able to truly concentrate upon the REAL task in hand for the past few days....however, I'm certainly 'feeling' the black people's side of our predicament - here's another one I just came across. It's difficult to listen to/watch but it certainly strikes a chord with me - what 'they' fear is all of us, black/white/whatever colour coming together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PS4EQDlzu0&feature=PlayList&p=85B5DD8EFEAA1F35&index=0

sukyspook

08-09-2009, 08:34 PM

this is an amazing guy but I loved LOVED LOVED THIS video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAQEqVbg4_4&feature=related truly amazing stuff.

If you loved that Judy - and I did so very much too, you'll LOVE the following series if you haven't already started to watch......and watch.....and watch.... - don't worry about 'Trial Version' splattered across the picture because it doesn't really detract from the importance of what Phil is saying.

FROM MY POV I RECOMMEND YOU START FROM P1 1 AND Follow it all the way through....I'm on p2 1 and it's awesome - there's one section which talks about poisoning the water supply that kind of doesn't 'fit' - maybe it's because I already knew about that plan and am a bit 'so/so' about it - but I don't discard anything as these 'entities' or 'parasites' as Phil calls them, will use and do ANYTHING to retain control of this 'dimension' so please don't get turned 'off' by that section - keep on watching - ESPECIALLY THE ZION PART and onto Harry Potter - WOAH!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LdeeZ22wk&feature=related

When you've watched the entire series (phew), here's some 'here and now' info which is also very important as always:

Sept 3 09 Cloak Shocktalk - We Became Spies When the Media Betrayed the Truth

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/14048/shock_talk_2009-09s-03.mp3

Sept 3 09 - The Greatest Story Ever Sold--Charlie Wilson's War on Conspiracy Cafe‏

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/14047/conspiracy_cafe_2009-09s-03.mp3

...and I haven't even started to listen to 'Space' this week!!:

TOPIC: Michael Jackson, The Beatles, David Lynch, Colonel Gaddafi, Crowley...

TIME: 3:23:51

SIZE: 35 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?yyayogwlnjq
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O3WBYFH6

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/651436515240949c/

JUST WATCH PHIL VALENTINE FIRST!!

xx

judy101

08-09-2009, 08:53 PM

If you loved that Judy - and I did so very much too, you'll LOVE the following series if you haven't already started to watch......and watch.....and watch.... - don't worry about 'Trial Version' splattered across the picture because it doesn't really detract from the importance of what Phil is saying.

FROM MY POV I RECOMMEND YOU START FROM P1 1 AND Follow it all the way through....I'm on p2 1 and it's awesome - there's one section which talks about poisoning the water supply that kind of doesn't 'fit' - maybe it's because I already knew about that plan and am a bit 'so/so' about it - but I don't discard anything as these 'entities' or 'parasites' as Phil calls them, will use and do ANYTHING to retain control of this 'dimension' so please don't get turned 'off' by that section - keep on watching - ESPECIALLY THE ZION PART and onto Harry Potter - WOAH!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LdeeZ22wk&feature=related

When you've watched the entire series (phew), here's some 'here and now' info which is also very important as always:

Sept 3 09 Cloak Shocktalk - We Became Spies When the Media Betrayed the Truth

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/14048/shock_talk_2009-09s-03.mp3

Sept 3 09 - The Greatest Story Ever Sold--Charlie Wilson's War on Conspiracy Cafe‏

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/14047/conspiracy_cafe_2009-09s-03.mp3

...and I haven't even started to listen to 'Space' this week!!:

TOPIC: Michael Jackson, The Beatles, David Lynch, Colonel Gaddafi, Crowley...

TIME: 3:23:51

SIZE: 35 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?yyayogwlnjq
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O3WBYFH6

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/651436515240949c/

JUST WATCH PHIL VALENTINE FIRST!!

xx

I've watched a great deal of what you shared - great stuff. I think the most important information can be learned by understanding Holodynmaics. I"m not a fan of Dr. Woolf - he doesn't appear to believe in his own work which shows with his $6000 per course price tag but the books are amazing.

Water I believe is the answer and controlling what you feel not to mention transforming the sins from our past. it's such an easy solution when you think about it - something that I personally believe will affect this planet like a virus that we badly need.

I'm excited when I see this stuff being shared, everything we thought to be true is actually completely false. When we wake up to that realization we can rebuild.

Good stuff guys
Judy

tyler

10-09-2009, 12:51 AM

About the poem, Suky, I didn't like that line either! I didn't write it though. I would have changed a few bits here and there.
I must do another one if I can find an appropriate poem for the times.

flereous

10-09-2009, 08:21 AM

Lucifer isnt evil.

sukyspook

10-09-2009, 10:46 AM

Lucifer isnt evil.

That's what I'm trying to work out Flereous and which I'm trying to share on this thread - mainly because those who USE Lucifer, whoever/whatever he/she/it really is ARE PURE EVIL.

'They', the 'EVIL ONES' use anything and anyone who is willing to comply for 'earthly gain' and do whatever they are instructed to do (usually under an oath it would seem), in order for this MINDSET, call them Luciferians/Satanists/Atonists or whatever else that MINDSET might be called to retain control of this particular realm/dimension/vibration/time/place or however you, yourself, describe this experience we are all sharing 'here'.

We all have a choice - and this is where 'Lucifer' etc comes in imo. Everything is energy - one energy. How we choose to use and as a consequence manifest the results of that energy useage is up to each of us individually. Simply put, the dominant mindset will create its will - WHETHER WE REALISE IT OR NOT, if we remain 'unconscious' ie spiritually 'dead'.

Once we awaken and re-assume responsibility for our 'reality' or as I call it 'predicament', then we can consciously 'take back' this reality for the benefit of all 'right thinking people' to live in abundance, joy, TRUTH, COMPASSION, empathy, LOVE, PEACE - of mind and heart (one and the same ultimately, in a way)...

However, we have/continue to be INTENTIONALLY kept spiritually asleep by 'the system' in order for us to be duped into believing that human beings are, basically, 'goyim'/cattle ie BEASTS to be led by those who believe 'they' know what's best for us and is plainly and evidently the EVIL MINDSET that is creating our sorry excuse for a 'life' or 'consensus reality' that is: WAR; DEATH; DESTRUCTION; FAMINE; PLAGUE; HATRED; DESOLATION etc etc

I know you get that particular picture or you wouldn't be here, looking and commenting on what you - and we - are looking for - the answer to it all....which, of course, begins within each one of us.

My search for the Truth of all things and a relatively simple way to share that Truth with others, continues. It has become my 'life's work' in a way.

The following video, which is half way through another series, explains - from Dr John Henrik Clarke's pov anyway, 'a' coup against Africa, 'an' explanation of the origins of the 10 Commandments; 'a' version of the origins of the 'Hyksos' or Shepherd Kings and how the Hibiru's/Hebrews PROBABLY took over Egypt and so would explain the useage of Egyptian Symbolism throughout our world today which, for want of a better word has been 'hijacked' to dupe the entire world (imo, of course).
(as said, this is Dr Clarke's view but makes a lot of sense to me, personally):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wzGaC4D4OY&NR=1

(sorry, most of you know all of the above - but for some reason, I had to write it now...). Having watched Dr Clarke's 'alternative view of history' and spending a lot of time listening/watching Phil Valentine/Bobby Hemmitt/Dr Pookram/Delbert Blair etc etc the origins of our present troubles as explained in Dr Clarke's video seem to make a whole lot of sense and given that all of the above people 'know' who and what they really are and that the 'nwo/illuminati' is very real to them too, I believe we need to more openly investigate black history/MELANIN/humanity's origins in much more detail than we have been doing from their viewpoint/timeline. Of course, this is what 'they', the current evil and ruling (waning imo) MINDSET wouldn't want us to do.

Tyler - I shall 'watch this space' for your next presentation - you should be on the stage yourself "dahling" mwa, mwa (air kiss on cheeks)! Bravo!

judy101

10-09-2009, 05:21 PM

Lucifer isnt evil.

I'd like to know what made anyone understand that Lucifer isn't evil? What is your experience that made you recognize this truth?

turquoisefire777

10-09-2009, 11:24 PM

judy101

11-09-2009, 01:20 AM

sukyspook

12-09-2009, 02:51 PM

watch tim rifat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2vwQf7BEGU#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktPRUm0Bwa8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyGiNg7lFk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlytCbQCtiI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHEMrMjVfs&feature=related

Ha ha, nice one Turquoisefire. I remember watching the Rifat prog a couple or three years ago online, having missed it's original TX on TV. Jon Ronson is a little - ahem - strange isn't he.... I completely forgot the prog or that it was little Timmy Rifat (as I lovingly call him) who was involved. Thanks very much for finding and posting. (I'm watching it in snippets along with 5 other video series!! no wonder the family keeps complaining about the bandwidth!).

Poor old Timmy was ill when he did his regular update with Jeff Rense this week, awwww:

Sept 9 09 Rense with Rifat – Geopolitical Commentary

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Sep2009/n53tk4/rense_090909_hr1.mp3

After Tim was Charlotte Iserbyt who wrote the book: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" which you can read online here (it's a loooong read):

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

Charlotte feels the same as I do about the state of the world and she's as sad as I sometimes feel too. Here's my favourite Charlotte video which I keep permanently on my favourites - I've posted it dozens of times all over the forum so apologies if you've seen it before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=DDyDtYy2I0M

Sept 9 09 Rense with C Iserbyt – A Nation Betrayed

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Sep2009/n53tk4/rense_090909_hr2.mp3

Finally for now, if what Phil Valentine says in the following fascinating and entertaining series is even half true, in particular about the 'three headed dog' Cerberus aka Islam; Judaism and Christianity being based upon the same symbolism, then this could help bring us all together IN TRUTH, if we're brave enough and not too proud to admit that WE'VE ALL BEEN 'HAD'. I, for one, am first to admit it which is why I can't stop searching for the pieces and the final 'reveal', when REAL peace, love, Truth, compassion, empathy, abundance, joy and consequently SANITY are the norm on this madhouse of a planet.

WARNING - strong language - to say the least!! However, please don't let that put you off!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWQGThDpnyo&feature=channel_page

This week's Conspiracy Cafe and Shock Talk haven't been posted in the archives yet and I STILL haven't managed to listen to last week's 'Space' ....this has been an extremely interesting week 'info-wise' for me - hope it has for you too.
The evil adversarial 'matrix' is being exposed like never before and hence, it can't/won't prevail - YAY!!! (imo, of course!).

Suke
xx

tyler

12-09-2009, 06:21 PM

sukyspook

12-09-2009, 06:51 PM

Jon Ronson is a piece of Zionist excrement. He sits there palying dumb and asking inane questions that somehow achieve his aim of making the the others sound like geeks! I think the other Zionist stooge, Ali G, got his techniques from him.
Ronson was with Alex Jones when he was allowed into Bohemian Grove.

Good to see Tim Rifat. He looks totally different from what I imagined him! I imagined him as a scruffy fat slob with cigarette ash down his front and wearing sandals with socks and a funny muslim hat on his head. In reality he looks quite suave and dapper.

"In reality he looks quite suave and dapper." in fact Tyler, if I was 20 years younger, young Tim wouldn't get away from me lol!! As said, it's funny how I completely forgot he was in that programme and I agree - there's something 'not right' about Ronson.... I had to laugh as he wouldn't get away with smoking on TV these days - or anywhere else for that matter!! It just goes to show how old the prog really is.

The only way we can know Truth is to 'feel it' within our own heart/soul/mind hence, the search continues. I'm currently being 'blown away' by the info I've never been priveleged to see from our black brothers and sisters - awesome, truly awesome and it's so exciting to know that many of them also know the scam of 'Natural Law' vs corporate/Maritime Admiralty Law:

WARNING - DODGY SOUND AT BEGINNING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0P8X7ZCcA

Suke
x

tyler

12-09-2009, 09:12 PM

I have to get beyond my prejudices and look at more of that stuff. Can't seem to get into it at present. I think it's the presentation and the gospel church way of talking that irks me.

judy101

12-09-2009, 09:23 PM

I have to get beyond my prejudices and look at more of that stuff. Can't seem to get into it at present. I think it's the presentation and the gospel church way of talking that irks me.

ya this guy is EXTREMELY prejudice - hard for me to watch myself. he does have about 80% knowledge of what's really doing on but he is still missing a big chunk. but it's 80% worth knowing about.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion.htm
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion2.htm
good stuff in this interview

sukyspook

13-09-2009, 01:33 PM

"In reality he looks quite suave and dapper." in fact Tyler, if I was 20 years younger, young Tim wouldn't get away from me lol!! As said, it's funny how I completely forgot he was in that programme and I agree - there's something 'not right' about Ronson.... I had to laugh as he wouldn't get away with smoking on TV these days - or anywhere else for that matter!! It just goes to show how old the prog really is.

The only way we can know Truth is to 'feel it' within our own heart/soul/mind hence, the search continues. I'm currently being 'blown away' by the info I've never been priveleged to see from our black brothers and sisters - awesome, truly awesome and it's so exciting to know that many of them also know the scam of 'Natural Law' vs corporate/Maritime Admiralty Law:

WARNING - DODGY SOUND AT BEGINNING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0P8X7ZCcA

Suke
x

I have to get beyond my prejudices and look at more of that stuff. Can't seem to get into it at present. I think it's the presentation and the gospel church way of talking that irks me.

ya this guy is EXTREMELY prejudice - hard for me to watch myself. he does have about 80% knowledge of what's really doing on but he is still missing a big chunk. but it's 80% worth knowing about.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion.htm
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion2.htm
good stuff in this interview

If you were referring to the guy above - I only found him yesterday and posted this straight away because it's a 'take', just a 'take' upon the scam of Natural Law vs Maritime Admiralty Law/UCC which is one of the biggest of all the scams.

As always IT'S NOT THE MESSENGER, IT'S THE MESSAGE!!!

The Michael Tsarion CMN videos are posted on previous pages Judy and as always, Michael is spot on with many things - IMO...
If you haven't seen "2012 The Future of Mankind" with Michael, I highly recommend it, along with his symbolism exposure vids. I'm not too sure about the Irish 'origins' as the absolute beginnings of civilization - the John Henrik Clarke videos I've recently 'discovered' have made me think very deeply about our black origins...Biblically/historically speaking.

I 'feel' that 'their' attack upon humanity is going to intensify so if you haven't already done so, give Ephesians 6 another read!! I'm no churchgoer but as I've said previously, I believe there's much spiritual Truth in The Bible - for those with 'eyes to see and ears to hear' that is.

(see through the flowery language to the bare bones):

Ephesians 6

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206&version=KJV

IMO - God, to me, represents NATURAL ORDER and consequently 'right-thinking/acting/living'. WAR; GM food; control; power; corruption; base-level chakra behaviours etc are of 'the Adversary' ie the internal 'satan' - the Ego and externally what Christians know as 'Satan'/Lucifer (I know, I know, "they're not the same"....whatever...). Whether Jesus Christ ever existed or not, I believe in the principles of such a man and try to live my life that way.....

sukyspook

13-09-2009, 06:07 PM

Sept.10 09: CLOAK SHOCKTALK

ANNIVERSARY OF THE BETRAYAL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THE SUCCESSFUL SEPTEMBER 11TH FALSE FLAG EVENT ENGINEERED BY THE PSYCHOPATHIC NEW WORLD UNDERWORLD RULERS

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/14141/shock_talk_2009-09s-10.mp3

Sept.10 09: We are all Winston Smith on Conspiracy Cafe

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/14142/conspiracy_cafe_2009-09s-10.mp3

SEPTEMBER 12 09

TOPIC: the number 9, John Lennon, Mark David Chapman, Michaëlle Jean, Brian Epstein, Malcolm Evans (Beatles roadie), Paul McCartney...

TIME: 3:25:34

SIZE: 35.3 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?dyiyotwmwat
OR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V0W5H2UP

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/65488933feb767e5/

I can't comment on the above as I haven't listened to any of them yet - I'm still only 1/4 of the way through last weeks 'Space'!

sukyspook

15-09-2009, 10:07 AM

HOLY COW.

How much more blatantly satanic/luciferic does this mind-feck agenda have to get...

I just saw a post at another forum and couldn't believe that I didn't 'see' this before - but that's how 'this' works - perhaps we're not meant to see certain things until the info is necessary or we're ready:

"Papa Ratzi is an inside nickname for the Pope Benedict."

If you can stand it, watch this - check out the paintings and the set....did I see a double-headed eagle on the big flat or is it an IHS???

This woman is an abomination and she is peddling this stuff to our children:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-XgDze3xA&feature=player_embedded

http://www.letsrollforums.com/Blog/popesignbig.jpg

sukyspook

17-09-2009, 04:46 PM

Listen To The Dr. Bill Deagle 09/03/2009 Report:OUR THREE SPECIAL -- FREEMAN PERSPECTIVE -- FREEMASON RITUAL IN THE CEREMONY OF THE PHOENIX -- COLLAPSE OF THE WORLD ECONOMY AND CULLING THE HERB OF MANKIND BY PANDEMIC FLU AIRBORNE PLAGUE ... AND MUCH MORE ON DISNEY AND MARVEL -- "Dark Hero" with the death of Superman and Batman who were replaced by Hell Spawn and Azrael, the Fallen Angel -- Princess/Warrior Programming is everywhere for people to see -- MORE... Because it is sometimes so unbelievable, the truth escapes becoming known www.freemantv.com thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com www.freemanarchives.com www.myspace.com/freemantv www.youtube.com/freemantv -

At around 33:00 into the mp3, Bill Deagle makes the statement:

"(they are) changing the consciousness of our children, polluting their minds, they're dumbing them down, spiritually preparing them to be indwelt by trans-dimensional demonic entities ie DEMONS".

I wish I didn't, but I absolutely agree with him... Spiritually awake and aware people are, imo, safer from these dreadful and ongoing bio/psycho/spiritual attacks:

http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_03_09_04.MP3

Freeman and Bill talk about Disney amongst many other things and many of which are relevant to Gaga and her "genre" of "music".
I believe Gaga and her handlers are programming people with this 'borg/hermaphroditic agenda' which, like Beyonce features a robotoid costume in her video Paparazzi at 3'47:

Papparazzi - is reported as having over 9.6 million views….sigh - and my attempt to alert people to the abomination that is Gaga's MTV performance had ony 1300 views - speaks volumes and explains pretty much why I'm so disgusted and concerned that 'they' have direct access with this evil into the minds of our children...

Other points of interest in the video, quickly observed:

Roses
Papal balcony
Ram/Goats head over bed
Chequerboard floor/wall
Newspaper -EVENING STAR!!!
Shell chair - Venus/Lucifer
Bionic arm/costume
DISNEY OUTFIT......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9Vi8GLok&feature=fvw

sukyspook

18-09-2009, 01:31 PM

Music Industry: Blood Money [NEW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5QYWjhHEk&feature=channel_page

This is a loooong mp3 but contains some excellent info from 9th Sept 09 - (I'm still catching up). Stick with it, it gets better in the 2nd half - especially about the Pilgrim Society:

Report:THE MORNING LIBERTY SHOW...Interview with Deanna Spingola - www.spingola.com - The Pilgrim Society formed in 1901 - umbrella Secret Society that controls other secret societies. False Flag Factors - 1 - control all of the evidence, 2 - power to control investigation, 3 - power to convene commission, 4 - sustained government supression, 5 - eliminate all opposition, 6 - power to maintain cover story to discredit all oposing voices. Diversions of their World Control Operations are being implemented all over:

http://www.twowitnesses.us/morning_liberty_show_09_09.MP3

sukyspook

18-09-2009, 01:47 PM

I give up with links sometimes.....

Anyway, sorry but I'm re-posting my last post (!) as first the vid worked, then not, then worked and also, the mp3 link isn't working full stop. sigh.

Music Industry: Blood Money [NEW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5QYWjhHEk&feature=channel_page

Report:THE MORNING LIBERTY SHOW...Interview with Deanna Spingola - from 9th Sept 09, www.spingola.com -

The Pilgrim Society formed in 1901 - umbrella Secret Society that controls other secret societies. False Flag Factors - 1 - control all of the evidence, 2 - power to control investigation, 3 - power to convene commission, 4 - sustained government supression, 5 - eliminate all opposition, 6 - power to maintain cover story to discredit all oposing voices. Diversions of their World Control Operations are being implemented all over":

This is a loooong mp3 and a bit slow at times, but well worth it with some nuggets contained within - hour 2 is especially good re Pilgrim society:

Hour 1:

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Hender/2009/09/Hender_1_090909_070000.mp3

Hour 2:

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Hender/2009/09/Hender_2_090909_080000.mp3

novymir

18-09-2009, 03:38 PM

Thanks for the source links sukyspook, I especially found Dr. Phil Valentine's work to be very interesting.

sukyspook

19-09-2009, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the source links sukyspook, I especially found Dr. Phil Valentine's work to be very interesting.

My absolute pleasure Novymir - I've learned so much in the past month since I discovered these amazing black....well, what do we call them....teachers/truthseekers/guru's - no, they are just 'us' further along the road to reality/Truth...helping to awaken us to how we've been 'had' and what we can do about it. As said, that's my life's work too which is why I pass on what I find here. I'm thoroughly enjoying the experience too and whilst I always knew that black people, like the rest of us have been 'had' little did I realise by just how much... We have a lot to learn from these great minds and I'm enjoying engaging with black people I meet who haven't heard of the likes of Phil and Bobby - YET!! IMO our 'joining together' is what 'they' fear most as I've said previously.

Last night I was lucky enough to catch the Muse concert from their home town of Teignmouth in Devon. It was brilliant and considering I hardly hear any music these days as if I'm not reading/watching/listening for the Truth, I enjoy silence which helps me to 'sort' the info I come across. I've been a 'fan' of Muse since they first appeared 10 or so years ago - my children (1 x teen, 2 over 20 now) enjoyed their music all those years ago with me too.

Here are the lyrics to the first song they did: "Uprising" - and whilst we do need some kind of uprising, imo it must first be within ourselves. If enough of us had an internal uprising or awakening then the 'status quo' would change without any open revolution - WHICH IS DISCUSSED IN THE MP3 BELOW and which plays into the hands of the 'red shield gang' who I believe are the highest 'family' and quite possibly the cause of all of humanities woes - again, imo, of course!:

Muse
Uprising lyrics

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
The transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs
Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
We will never see the truth around

Another promise, another scene, another
A package not to keep us trapped in greed
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take it's toll if you could
Flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
We should never be afraid to die

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/muse/uprising.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elElYLYG-yU

I loved the seaside stage design, in particular the Punch and Judy screen-surrounds - what a lovely idea and what a great concert. I might even buy the CD!

MY ADVICE - FWIW - MAKE YOUR OWN UPRISING AN INTERNAL ONE - similar advice regarding 'revolution' which as said merely plays into 'their' hands here from Jeff Grupp and Bill Deagle. Whatever you think about Bill, he's calmed down a lot over the years and I don't often disagree with him. I wish he'd stop his 'prophisying' though lol!!

Dr. Bill Deagle 09/17/2009 Report:HOUR ONE SPECIAL -- JEFF GRUPP -- MA -- "THE TRUTH MOVEMENT IS BEING USED TO DEMOLITION THE CURRENT ORDER TO BRING ABOUT THEIR ULTIMATE GOALS OF A NEW WORLD ORDER ! Jeffrey Grupp, MA Independent researcher, author, radio host Temporarily retired college instructor Research web site #1: www.AbstractAtom.com Research web site #2: www.Telementation.com Radio Show web site: www.AntimatterRadio.com (4 pm EST Thursdays) Institute web site:

http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_01_09_17.MP3

Back to reality - the washing machine has packed up so am off to the launderette...such is life!

Love to all
Suke
x

coco

19-09-2009, 09:06 PM

sukyspook

21-09-2009, 02:59 PM

Suky, the Lady Gaga link was removed due to copyright violation. I saw it on the MTV site but I really didn't pay close attention to things as you mentioned. Weird chick was my opinion. Anyway, for those who would like to see the video (and I would like to look at it again with a different eye) here is the link:

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/435679/paparazzi-live.jhtml#id=1620605

Hi Coco - yes, censorship is alive and well on the net, as can be seen by the take down of many vids - not that anything to do with Gaga is in any way important except in the context of 'seeing evil at work' - imo, of course. Thank you for posting an alternative. If I find a link to the MTV vid that's not 'policed', I'll post it - but I won't 'bust a gut' as it's too sick to spend too much time on...

Here are the regulars from the many mp3's I've been listening to (as always):

Cloak Shock Talk Sept 17 09

MISGUIDED MEDUSA MONARCHS CONTINUED TO FOMENT A CAULDRIN OF INQUISITIONAL WARS AND REVOLUTIONS

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1617/14261/shock_talk_2009-09s-17.mp3

Sept 17 09 CONSPIRACY CAFE

What are we going to do tonight? We're going to listen to Conspiracy Cafe!‏

http://thatradio.podhoster.com/download/1746/14264/conspiracy_cafe_2009-09s-17.mp3

Sept 19 09 - Gary, The Spaceman, Bell:

TOPIC: H5N1/H1N1

TIME: 2:19:16

SIZE: 23.9 MB

DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?t2mrndzqizd

STREAM LINK: http://www.zshare.net/audio/658486159cad75a8/

This weekend I've been watching, at times, the Project Camelot conference on UStream, the technology at times was great but the more viewers, the more problematic it got until I got fed up with it and gave up.
Ironically, since the age of about 9, I've been interested in UFO's and 'aliens' however, I'm more inclined to believe in inter-dimensional 'entities' than physical-3D ET's these days - I'm certainly no expert! I don't believe that we should simply be waiting for ET's, Jesus or anyone/thing to come and 'save us', first, we have to save our selves. However, I do enjoy listening to Alex Collier in particular as he talks about our taking back responsibility for ourselves and our planet - and timely as always, I came across a Terenece McKenna video this morning which says exactly the same. I also love to listen to Jordan Maxwell, no matter what anyone says about him....

Here's the link to the conference - I'm listening to Jordan on 'The Panel' - the link to Alex's talk is on the right:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2194185

Here's the McKenna vid - his voice sounds even higher-pitched than usual for some reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sg01GLQcBM&NR=1

"Coming soon" (ie tomorrow!): Timmy Rifat! Yay! I wonder what, if anything, he has to say about Derren Brown demonstrating remote viewing this Friday!!

I didn't realise the "G20" were in Pittsburg this week - they're the real "Pittsburg Stealers" eh!