Why blame God??.....

[james777]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?

First of all, God is Love! Secondly, God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect. God graciously has given us free-will. We are able to do anything we want and he will never but-in and force us to do anything we don't want to. He is a true Gentlemen!

The only reason that we have negativity in our lives and on our planet is because we have chosen it for ourselves. We are the ones who have decided to turn our backs on the creator. We are the ones who think we know more than we can actually comprehend. We are the ones who empower the dark forces of this realm. It's not God's fault that we do not choose to follow his rules or commands and it's our fault that this world is turning into a shit hole. We gotta stop chuckin the blame on others and stop blaming the 'illuminati' and the 'reps' and all this other bullshit because it's only because of us in the first place. We MUST take responsibility for ourselves, one-by-one and we MUST stop blaming others and we MUST get right with the creator because the blame game is only taking us down.

[king]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?
because it is easier to blame someone else instead of taking responsibility and looking within.


First of all, God is Love! Secondly, God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect. God graciously has given us free-will. We are able to do anything we want and he will never but-in and force us to do anything we don't want to. He is a true Gentlemen!
"he" or "she" or "it" is debatable as we do not even know the form of it, but fact is that we are given immense power by that creative force, yet a very few of us are using it.

The only reason that we have negativity in our lives and on our planet is because we have chosen it for ourselves. We are the ones who have decided to turn our backs on the creator. We are the ones who think we know more than we can actually comprehend. We are the ones who empower the dark forces of this realm. It's not God's fault that we do not choose to follow his rules or commands and it's our fault that this world is turning into a shit hole. We gotta stop chuckin the blame on others and stop blaming the 'illuminati' and the 'reps' and all this other bullshit because it's only because of us in the first place. We MUST take responsibility for ourselves, one-by-one and we MUST stop blaming others and we MUST get right with the creator because the blame game is only taking us down.

i realized this as well and i stopped blaming others for the state of the world.
i know that first i must change my self and that only through changing myself can i change the world.

[barbitone]

I am God.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

I get it.

[zaira]

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[sibe]

erm hi

"God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect" how do you know this to be true? just wondering thats all not been rude or anything, i was always led to believe you make your own choices, sacrifices (not the human one's lol) your own way or path in life so i am my god in that respect, if God created the Universe who created God? who is God's Mother and Father etc where is the starting point, how could God just be? where did he/she manifest from? and why do we think he is male, it used to be mother earth and a tad more feminine at one time but over the years the male role has emerged.

Just thinking out loud i guess ....... peace & respect

[Anders Lindman]

God is like a father figure for many people. And we have been trained to blindly obey MONOPOLY authority. No responsibility, you see. What a relief!

[montag]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?
It's a type of neuroses. Maybe you should it explain to them them that they are God so they can then realize they only have themselves to blame..

[emerald]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?

First of all, God is Love! Secondly, God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect. God graciously has given us free-will. We are able to do anything we want and he will never but-in and force us to do anything we don't want to. He is a true Gentlemen!

The only reason that we have negativity in our lives and on our planet is because we have chosen it for ourselves. We are the ones who have decided to turn our backs on the creator. We are the ones who think we know more than we can actually comprehend. We are the ones who empower the dark forces of this realm. It's not God's fault that we do not choose to follow his rules or commands and it's our fault that this world is turning into a shit hole. We gotta stop chuckin the blame on others and stop blaming the 'illuminati' and the 'reps' and all this other bullshit because it's only because of us in the first place. We MUST take responsibility for ourselves, one-by-one and we MUST stop blaming others and we MUST get right with the creator because the blame game is only taking us down.

Unfortunately u are one of those that even theyd be hit by truth in full face they wouldnt recognize it. Useless to say that what u mentioned as "inventions" (illuminati and reppies) are as damm real as they can be. We dont die in wars, not coz of diseases or accidents, but stupidity and igorance kill us. This world as it is, its our creation, coz we let those in the dark to lead us. U may say we turned our face from God, sure its true, but shouldnt also God be less selective? Since we are His children yet, He treats us more like a step father so to say. We have free will, we make our choices, we take responsibility etc. but this planet is an abatoir. No divine intervention? Even the good ones are left fighting against windmills, dying... What if - as I said in another post on this site - the true God waits for us to set Him free? What if the God that we all know is in fact very different? Ud better connect urself to more lite...ThweI

[i_am]

Hmmm! Can't say I have heard anyone blame God for anything. I have heard many ask, "why does God let this happen? Why does he/she not stop this idiocy?"

But if people are blaming God, it is human nature for people to allocate blame, so why not the all powerful? For many, possibly most, it is easier to blame someone else than taking responsibility for their own actions.

Why is it though, that people only play the blame game when things go pearshaped?

[zaira]

Imagine This....

God is a potato! Sounds funny and even sacrilegious, but its true!

2000 years ago the Roman and Greek empires had as the supreme being in their religious pantheon, Zeus, today the Zeus and all the other Gods of this long gone religion are called 'myths' and in about 2000 years our view of God will most likely have died out and become a 'myth' also. Disney will make a movie about God (like Samson and Hercules).

The point is even if in the future we are worshiping a giant potato as the supreme being/divine creator (God) it will still be the same 'thing' - by any other name a rose will still smell as sweet. And by any other name 'God' will still be as powerful. It is still the same 'Thing' no matter what you call it, or how you envision 'it.

This thing this 'God' is within you. It is within all of us. call it what you will, visualise it anyway you want. Call it 'He' call it 'She' call it 'It'. It makes no difference it is that same thing no matter what name you give it. Even if you say you don't believe in it, it doesn't matter - that won't make it go away. It is a part of you, a part of all of us, a part of the whole. I'm not a religious person, I don't think of 'It' as 'God' but I know it is there cause I can feel it working in me - I ask for what I want and 'It' delivers. It is also known by other labels - The Law Of Attraction, Universal Law, Universal Mind, God, Ghosts, Spirit etc. Labels! Just labels! Call it what you want. It's real!

[peter19]

Why is it though, that people only play the blame game when things go pearshaped?

i reckon because then its not your fault that something went wrong, "i mean i did my best" "its f-ing god i tell you, the half witt" lol. but it is like when people do something good, they want the credit for it and when something what they didnt want to happen, happens it must be divine intervention. we need to look like we are in control.

another thing though is human minds can very very rarely see the big picture so if god/the creativeforce did something now it could appear dreadfull, but maybe next year or in ten it worked out to be the best thing ever. because it would fit in with the big picture possibley.

[tinmenace]

It's James' state of mind tapping him on the shoulder. He wants to blame God for his wicked thoughts. :rolleyes:

[Anders Lindman]

another thing though is human minds can very very rarely see the big picture so if god/the creativeforce did something now it could appear dreadfull, but maybe next year or in ten it worked out to be the best thing ever. because it would fit in with the big picture possibley.

The big picture seems to be a fight between infinite evil and infinite love. I think the love side is the stronger side, but it will continue to be a very messy battle for some time to come. It's like light and darkness. Darkness is very powerful but not very creative and when both darkness and light occupy the same space, light wins.

[i am all i am]

Why Blame God??.....

G'day James777.

When you understand why christians blame Satan, then you will understand why others blame God.



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[i_am]

It's James' state of mind tapping him on the shoulder. He wants to blame God for his wicked thoughts. :rolleyes:

Nah! That was the devil. :p:p

[montag]

The big picture seems to be a fight between infinite evil and infinite love.
Can you see the paradox here, how can something that is infinite have an adversary? They are one and the same, different expressions of the same force.
It's only from our human conditioned perspective that we see good and evil.

[Anders Lindman]

Can you see the paradox here, how can something that is infinite have an adversary? They are one and the same, different expressions of the same force.
It's only from our human conditioned perspective that we see good and evil.

Yes, two sides of the same coin. But the coin is not neutral, not balanced. The coin is called creation.

[peter19]

The big picture seems to be a fight between infinite evil and infinite love. I think the love side is the stronger side, but it will continue to be a very messy battle for some time to come. It's like light and darkness. Darkness is very powerful but not very creative and when both darkness and light occupy the same space, light wins.

also though what i mean is what we percive as evil even just in little things sometimes makes you stronger, makes you into a more loveing person and things alond those lines. so is it really evil?. ill give you an example - you have a NDE or are in some accident of some sort but you come back and you say - love is everything, love and knowledge are the only things of value ect - which some people have said. maybe thats a bad example, but what i mean is evil can bring you to your knees it can make you humble and make you love and forgive people who are suffering because you have been in there shoes, you know how it feels like.

the powers that be i bet have never really had it rough and because of that might not know the hurt and suffering they are doing to people or just dont care about it because they have never been in that situation. so although evil is evil, sometimes it is your greatest thing because it humbles you, makes you stronger, makes you love your naibours ect. without "evil" or challenges would we grow?.

maybe its all a play out of good and evil until we realize who we truely are.

[montag]

Yes, two sides of the same coin. But the coin is not neutral, not balanced. The coin is called creation.
If it's infinite, it can not have sides it is all there is, has and will ever be. Good and evil is a symptom of duality and is another illusion.

Do you believe you are evil when you sit down to eat a Sunday roast?

[Anders Lindman]

If it's infinite, it can not have sides it is all there is, has and will ever be. Good and evil is a symptom of duality and is another illusion.

Do you believe you are evil when you sit down to eat a Sunday roast?

But it can! That's why it's infinite. Infinite sides on all sides!!! :D

There is probably some evil in everything we do, including eating a Sunday roast, but good is overall stronger than evil I think.

[Anders Lindman]

also though what i mean is what we percive as evil even just in little things sometimes makes you stronger, makes you into a more loveing person and things alond those lines. so is it really evil?. ill give you an example - you have a NDE or are in some accident of some sort but you come back and you say - love is everything, love and knowledge are the only things of value ect - which some people have said. maybe thats a bad example, but what i mean is evil can bring you to your knees it can make you humble and make you love and forgive people who are suffering because you have been in there shoes, you know how it feels like.

the powers that be i bet have never really had it rough and because of that might not know the hurt and suffering they are doing to people or just dont care about it because they have never been in that situation. so although evil is evil, sometimes it is your greatest thing because it humbles you, makes you stronger, makes you love your naibours ect. without "evil" or challenges would we grow?.

maybe its all a play out of good and evil until we realize who we truely are.

Yes, I think it is a must to have experienced suffering, or to at least to have suffering thoroughly understood. Suffering is like the dirty soil from which flowers grow. Without the dirty soil, no flower.

[tinmenace]

Yes, I think it is a must to have experienced suffering, or to at least to have suffering thoroughly understood. Suffering is like the dirty soil from which flowers grow. Without the dirty soil, no flower.


I've seen some nasty weeds grow from that same dirty soil. Although some weeds are capable of sprouting flowers occasionally.

[Anders Lindman]

But it can! That's why it's infinite. Infinite sides on all sides!!! :D


I like to clarify this. Reality is not static. What was infinite one minute ago is finite at this moment. What is infinite in this moment will become finite in the next. Reality is creative, cannot be put into a box or any form of definition, because as soon as the definition of reality is perfectly defined, reality has moved into new expressions of itself.

[montag]

but good is overall stronger than evil I think.
Before you talked about infinite good and infinite evil, well how is it then possible for one to be stronger than the other, it is possible for something to be more or less infinite than anything else?

[Anders Lindman]

I've seen some nasty weeds grow from that same dirty soil. Although some weeds are capable of sprouting flowers occasionally.

Beauty is multifaceted. A painting with a sagging weed can be a masterpiece of art. And beauty has several dimensions. For example, a person A can be considered beautiful by most people and another person B not so beautiful. But some people may think person B is more beautiful than person A. So there is both (at least) a general dimension of beauty and also a personal dimension of beauty. And beauty is also dependent on the context. A nuclear power plant will in a general sense not be very beautiful, but from other perspectives it may be considered beautiful. A super-ugly monster will of course be considered ugly by almost everybody, but even the monster has qualities of ugliness-beauty.

[Anders Lindman]

Before you talked about infinite good and infinite evil, well how is it then possible for one to be stronger than the other, it is possible for something to be more or less infinite than anything else?

Yep, reality is a process of creation. Reality blasts forward with relentless power. That power eats infinity for breakfast.

[montag]

Yes, I think it is a must to have experienced suffering, or to at least to have suffering thoroughly understood. Suffering is like the dirty soil from which flowers grow. Without the dirty soil, no flower.
I was thinking about this today, we're told that we chose to come to this world, we choose our parents and the life that we have for the lessons we need to learn or whatever reason.

So then if that statement is true suffering must be well sort after by the incarnating spirits, because nearly all we have on this planet is suffering, unless you happen to be like most of us here, members of the elite 3 or 4% of the planets population that was fortunate enough not to have been born in to the third world and never suffered the horrific effects of pestilence, war or famine. The kind of suffering that most of us could not conceive of, let alone attempt to endure.

[tinmenace]

Beauty is multifaceted. A painting with a sagging weed can be a masterpiece of art. And beauty has several dimensions. For example, a person A can be considered beautiful by most people and another person B not so beautiful. But some people may think person B is more beautiful than person A. So there is both (at least) a general dimension of beauty and also a personal dimension of beauty. And beauty is also dependent on the context. A nuclear power plant will in a general sense not be very beautiful, but from other perspectives it may be considered beautiful. A super-ugly monster will of course be considered ugly by almost everybody, but even the monster has qualities of ugliness-beauty.


Wow, ok. A little complicated for me ..person A, person B... but yes, to each their own. :)

[Anders Lindman]

I was thinking about this today, we're told that we chose to come to this world, we choose our parents and the life that we have for the lessons we need to learn or whatever reason.

So then if that statement is true suffering must be well sort after by the incarnating spirits, because nearly all we have on this planet is suffering, unless you happen to be like most of us here, members of the elite 3 or 4% of the planets population that was fortunate enough not to have been born in to the third world and never suffered the horrific effects of pestilence, war or famine. The kind of suffering that most of us could not conceive of, let alone attempt to endure.

I think we as humanity are still very 'young', and we have not yet grown out of the soil of suffering. The good thing that gives me hope is that evolutions seems to be exponential. It took 100.000 years for humanity to invent fire. Agriculture was discovered 10.000 years ago. The industrial revolution started some hundred years ago. The information age is only a couple of decades old. And the iPhone only hit the market very recently! :)

[james777]

erm hi

"God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect" how do you know this to be true? just wondering thats all not been rude or anything, i was always led to believe you make your own choices, sacrifices (not the human one's lol) your own way or path in life so i am my god in that respect, if God created the Universe who created God? who is God's Mother and Father etc where is the starting point, how could God just be? where did he/she manifest from? and why do we think he is male, it used to be mother earth and a tad more feminine at one time but over the years the male role has emerged.

Just thinking out loud i guess ....... peace & respect

Well, as far as I believe, God does not adhere to our cycle of evolution/creation. God 'IS'. He is the very substance of Conscience, Energy, Life....ect....He does not need a mother or a father, he only invented that type of system for our purposes as humans. You can refer to God in any Gender you'd like, but he always refers himself as masculine. He is probally not male nor female, but the embodiment of life.

It's James' state of mind tapping him on the shoulder. He wants to blame God for his wicked thoughts. :rolleyes:
Nope, sorry, you got me all wrong, again....


G'day James777.

When you understand why christians blame Satan, then you will understand why others blame God.

This is what I don't understand. What are you even talking about here. What christians blame Satan for anything? How can we place blame on an entity that has no power or authority over us. We're in control! He only possesses the power we allow him to have.

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I think we as humanity are still very 'young', and we have not yet grown out of the soil of suffering. The good thing that gives me hope is that evolutions seems to be exponential. It took 100.000 years for humanity to invent fire. Agriculture was discovered 10.000 years ago. The industrial revolution started some hundred years ago. The information age is only a couple of decades old. And the iPhone only hit the market very recently! :)

You make some goos points, but where do you base your history from? Is it the 'Illuminati' version? Our history is tainted and we will never know the truth. Humans have been burying the truth so long that it's impossible to find our true history.......

[zaira]

Anders Lindman,

"The big picture seems to be a fight between infinite evil and infinite love. I think the love side is the stronger side, but it will continue to be a very messy battle for some time to come. It's like light and darkness. Darkness is very powerful but not very creative and when both darkness and light occupy the same space, light wins."


If I understand you correctly, it's not so much to do with a fight between infinite evil and infinite love - one versus the other. I believe that when we finally 'get it', it will be more about realising that we can't have one without the other. In all things it is the balance we should seek.

The powers that be may not necessarily need to be got rid of. If by some miracle we were able to convince them to seek to balance the power it may be all that is really needed.

Think balance of power.

[mada88]

oh yes the thing with no name is called god oh yes quite quite. God is a dog and add an extra o it becomes good. God is a word like so many others words can not be used for such matters as naming the creative force (even thats daft)

"God smod I want my monkey man!" - Bart Simpson

[positive terror]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?

First of all, God is Love! Secondly, God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect. God graciously has given us free-will. We are able to do anything we want and he will never but-in and force us to do anything we don't want to. He is a true Gentlemen!

The only reason that we have negativity in our lives and on our planet is because we have chosen it for ourselves. We are the ones who have decided to turn our backs on the creator. We are the ones who think we know more than we can actually comprehend. We are the ones who empower the dark forces of this realm. It's not God's fault that we do not choose to follow his rules or commands and it's our fault that this world is turning into a shit hole. We gotta stop chuckin the blame on others and stop blaming the 'illuminati' and the 'reps' and all this other bullshit because it's only because of us in the first place. We MUST take responsibility for ourselves, one-by-one and we MUST stop blaming others and we MUST get right with the creator because the blame game is only taking us down.

WISE!!, IM WITH YOU WITH ALL MY HEART,

One of the best comments that have read never, seems that was me who wrote it !!!

[thomascovenant]

why blame god?

why blame anyone?

what is "blame"?

[earthseed]

Cause I'm bored.
No really just because someone isn't into religion which is just mind control doesn't mean they blame god/source/one/higher self. But, religious people don't know the difference. It's either their way or no way. I'm so glad you can't burn me at the stake anymore though.

[thomascovenant]

its just externalising responsibility.even if EVERY conspiracy theory is true, responsibility for the human race will always lie with the human race.

or something

[fccool]

I've recently had discussions with people in my community, people I see on a daily basis, people here and just people in general. I've found a pattern of blame forming and it seems at the core of it all, most people blame God for their problems, downfalls and mis-haps. Why is this?

First of all, God is Love! Secondly, God created everything we know, our universe, our bodies our souls our conscience...ect. God graciously has given us free-will. We are able to do anything we want and he will never but-in and force us to do anything we don't want to. He is a true Gentlemen!

The only reason that we have negativity in our lives and on our planet is because we have chosen it for ourselves. We are the ones who have decided to turn our backs on the creator. We are the ones who think we know more than we can actually comprehend. We are the ones who empower the dark forces of this realm. It's not God's fault that we do not choose to follow his rules or commands and it's our fault that this world is turning into a shit hole. We gotta stop chuckin the blame on others and stop blaming the 'illuminati' and the 'reps' and all this other bullshit because it's only because of us in the first place. We MUST take responsibility for ourselves, one-by-one and we MUST stop blaming others and we MUST get right with the creator because the blame game is only taking us down.


:) There's more to their view as you think. We are told that our purpose is a pursuit of hapiness. Unfortunatly pursuit of hapiness is the same concept as the "War on Terror". It's hard to pursue abstract feelings. Hapiness is all that... something that you feel when you get what you want. And since we all constantly want... we can never be happy... unless we stop wanting.
People scream about having choice and control over their lives, yet they did not choose to be born. They did not choose anything up to the age of 7. Their parents decide 90% of their decisions for them. They feed them, tell them what is right and what is wrong and instill a certain qualities in them which they think is theirs. Afterwards they have friends and their friends take over and teach them their view of right and wrong. Then the government factors in and tells you what's right and wrong legally. So from cradle to grave it's a giant Truman Show movie. And those who break out are the ones who are not allowed to be in this movie. Whatever limited choices they are left with they give up and let somebody else make it for them.

I though about some of my friend's lives and why they don't care about certain issues and it dawned on me. Their schedule is :

There's 168 hrs in a week. They work 40++ hr jobs. That's 128 hrs left. They spend 2 hrs a day driving to and from their jobs + other driving around. 114 hrs left. They spend 40hrs a week sleeping. 74 hrs left. They spend 1 hr in the morning to prepare to go to their jobs. 69 hrs left. Eating about 2 hours a day. Taking care of their houses about 7+- hrs a week. So they got48 hrs left to themselves a week. And they spend it on shopping and entertainment.

If you bring up anything of long run significance they will just keep silent because they won't know what the hell you are talking about. It takes time to understand how world really works, and they don't care about understanding. All they care about that it works, and if it does not then they have to find somebody to blame for it.

++ There are impossible standards being imposed on them by society... All of these are lies to begin with, but they are accepted "norms". Some of these are immensely ludicrous... like

match you clothes, wear suit and tie to work, have a good credit, have a supermodel body, live in decent house and drive a nice car, ... and the wost idea in the world.... you deserve all of the above.

So, the sooner we understand that we don't desrve anything other than what we make happen with our brain and hands... the better off we will be.