What we can do!

[adbasque]

I started this thread so people can suggest what we can do

I believe we are wasting lot of precious time discussing the obvious, thinking we are aware, but think about it for a sec please.

Are we not being entertained by simply talking day in day out what the NWO is up to next? isn't it a fascination rather than genuine concern?
They are keeping us under their thumb.

We seriously should rise up and take serious calculated action, instead of spending hours and days of blah blah.

IS it stopping their agenda from advancing? no
Are we waiting until the day they unleash their full power on us?
it's not an IF it's a question of time, they will right now they are running drills
we must take this opportunity and rise up.

Most of us been here at least a year, talking, talking, I start to believe that some of us even enjoy it, they can't wait to see what's coming next so they have something new to chew on.

But people this serious, I don't want to find myself in the next 5 years still on David Icke's forum talking S***, while my freedom and liberties are slipping away by the minute.

Time is running out

I would love to hear some suggestions on what we can do and how we can do it.

I know some people are waiting for people like Alex Jones, David Icke, and the others to give a signal or a starting point.
These people can;t do it, because they are known figures, and if they do something like this, that's exactly what the Elite are waiting for, to arrest them and lock them under terrorism act that's already in place.

They are doing their bit to wake up people, it's for all of us to do something about it.
At least in America people are doing something, with Tea parties and so on, what is the rest of the world doing and that includes us British??

we have a priceless gift here, the The internet
And we don't know how long we will have it for!!
Come on!!

[helloperator]

Well it's like losing weight.

For an average thin/ normal wieght person, it might take 10 or 15 years to accumulate all that fat...to get so out of shape that you have to do something...

but when you decide to do something, you're not going to lose that weight in one day. It's gonna take planning, time, effort and dedication


also...I guess most people are happy enough to sit on the couch and eat doritos

[adbasque]

Well it's like losing weight.

For an average thin/ normal wieght person, it might take 10 or 15 years to accumulate all that fat...to get so out of shape that you have to do something...

but when you decide to do something, you're not going to lose that weight in one day. It's gonna take planning, time, effort and dedication


also...I guess most people are happy enough to sit on the couch and eat doritos

I am afraid I have to agree with you, I was being over optimistic
Of course we need time, (which we don't have) planning and yes dedication.

If their plan is working it's not because they are clever, it's because they are dedicated to their (delusional) cause
so in order to beat them we must do the same

But I would welcome any suggestions

[disorder2k8]

start a freeman business
dig up your garden and start growing food in it
print leaflets and hand them out


dont wait for anyone else

[adbasque]

start a freeman business
dig up your garden and start growing food in it
print leaflets and hand them out


dont wait for anyone else

Yes that is what each one of us should be doing, on a personal basis, what I am talking about is what can we do collectively.

And note some people might not have gardens, and to be honest how long is your garden going to feed you?
We must be realistic.

What we need first is to secure and protect our local farmers, we help them so they can help us later.

Instead of buying our food from the Supermarkets we need to get it from our local shops and local butchers, farmers and so on.

And we could for example provide services to each other within the community,

These are the things we can do collectively, as for handing leaflets and sending emails around I have been doing it through work and school sometimes in a local events.

But people really need to get together and discuss these issues, instead of talking about football and if Cheryl cole is pregnant or not.

Yes I agree with you there are things we can do on our own but other things require the community as a whole

[cafetimes1991]

On an individual level: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45167

[zero1]

The best that can be done @ the moment is to help spread good information, stick to the truth of matters as best can be discerned, and try to make ppl understand they don't have to accept a bad deal because supposedly "wiser heads" have decided this is the way it must be. Ignorance, goodness and passion, the three material factors in causality, are the basic functional modes by which ppl are manipulated by their hidden masters. Counter this as best you can by making ppl see they have a choice.

[fairyelfdog]

First off: don't panic. Secondly: Of course we can beat them! They don't even stand a chance. Think of how you are being used and manipulated in your daily life and then, simply refuse. Tell others to refuse as well. Write to your local newspapers when the truth is being twisted (That is to say, all the time, phew!) Handing out leaflets... good one. I am trying to tell my friends at Intent.com that something is up. I KNOW I am helping people. But most of all, have confidence. We signed up for this, we are all in this together and we can do it! They can't beat their own nature. Stop complaining about the lack of understanding and stop despising people who do not understand yet. Never mock anyone who doesn't have the same image of reality as you do and be supportive to those of us that are trying to adapt to their new understanding. Oh, and practise white magic and go deep inside yourself and realise your true nature. Very important piece. Without that connection, we are still trapped in mind and nothing can change. Love is the only answer. Now and always.

Sara

[wise haven]

I started this thread so people can suggest what we can do

I believe we are wasting lot of precious time discussing the obvious, thinking we are aware, but think about it for a sec please.

Are we not being entertained by simply talking day in day out what the NWO is up to next? isn't it a fascination rather than genuine concern?
They are keeping us under their thumb.

We seriously should rise up and take serious calculated action, instead of spending hours and days of blah blah.

IS it stopping their agenda from advancing? no
Are we waiting until the day they unleash their full power on us?
it's not an IF it's a question of time, they will right now they are running drills
we must take this opportunity and rise up.

Most of us been here at least a year, talking, talking, I start to believe that some of us even enjoy it, they can't wait to see what's coming next so they have something new to chew on.

But people this serious, I don't want to find myself in the next 5 years still on David Icke's forum talking S***, while my freedom and liberties are slipping away by the minute.

Time is running out

I would love to hear some suggestions on what we can do and how we can do it.

I know some people are waiting for people like Alex Jones, David Icke, and the others to give a signal or a starting point.
These people can;t do it, because they are known figures, and if they do something like this, that's exactly what the Elite are waiting for, to arrest them and lock them under terrorism act that's already in place.

They are doing their bit to wake up people, it's for all of us to do something about it.
At least in America people are doing something, with Tea parties and so on, what is the rest of the world doing and that includes us British??

we have a priceless gift here, the The internet
And we don't know how long we will have it for!!
Come on!!

I think one thing is very clear;

The time for talking is over - The time for doing should begin now :)

[skunksmash]

First off: don't panic. Secondly: Of course we can beat them! They don't even stand a chance. Think of how you are being used and manipulated in your daily life and then, simply refuse. Tell others to refuse as well. Write to your local newspapers when the truth is being twisted (That is to say, all the time, phew!) Handing out leaflets... good one. I am trying to tell my friends at Intent.com that something is up. I KNOW I am helping people. But most of all, have confidence. We signed up for this, we are all in this together and we can do it! They can't beat their own nature. Stop complaining about the lack of understanding and stop despising people who do not understand yet. Never mock anyone who doesn't have the same image of reality as you do and be supportive to those of us that are trying to adapt to their new understanding. Oh, and practise white magic and go deep inside yourself and realise your true nature. Very important piece. Without that connection, we are still trapped in mind and nothing can change. Love is the only answer. Now and always.

Sara


nice.....:D

all that post needed was a gripping bit of music & we would of all left our houses by now, to begin the NWO EXTERMINATION!! ;)





:)SK

[kappy0405]

WE NEED A POLITICAL ACTION COMMUNITY/COMMITTEE.

Seriously, everyone who is 100% sure that the NWO is real should be out EVERY WEEKEND spreading this information, and dedicate themselves to stopping the biggest threat humanity has ever faced.

We need a forum or website for the sole purpose of ORGANIZING protests, demonstrations, and meetups. For best organization, it should be split into subgroups according to country, state, and cities.. And most importantly, we need a massive publicity campaign to get people to join us.

[adbasque]

WE NEED A POLITICAL ACTION COMMUNITY/COMMITTEE.

Seriously, everyone who is 100% sure that the NWO is real should be out EVERY WEEKEND spreading this information, and dedicate themselves to stopping the biggest threat humanity has ever faced.

We need a forum or website for the sole purpose of ORGANIZING protests, demonstrations, and meetups. For best organization, it should be split into subgroups according to country, state, and cities.. And most importantly, we need a massive publicity campaign to get people to join us.

We need a network of websites and forums inter-connected, that speaks with the same voice, because in case you're not aware, few people have already been killed, not long ago, for having websites up.

One here in the UK, another two in the US and not to mention the ones we haven't heard of yet.

[adbasque]

First off: don't panic. Secondly: Of course we can beat them!
Sara

First I am not panicking, It's just we need to act NOW!!
enough talking, time for action, that's all :)
We can beat them only if we are a 150% dedicated and take it seriously
not let ourselves be distracted by anything that's going on.

Keep focused, of course those who don't see the same reality as we do, we should be patients with them, but we must not waste more time in trying to convince them.

The idea is to plant the seed and let it grow, it may take some time with some people and others will quickly realise that it's a serious threat.

It's just I am a little tired of reading the same comments over and over from one thread to another.
But no action.
That's all

[cafetimes1991]

There's so much we can friggin' do, everyone. I went crazy with a marker last Friday, and wrote "infowars.com" everywhere I could in Cork City + I put up like ten stickers which I designed myself.
Whenever you get a bank not, write "davidicke.com" on it or something.
I saw a low down billboard last Friday too, saying "join the revolution", then a link to a website. I drew an arrow from it to "infowars.com" in my writing.
Today I posted off fourteen 9/11 Truth For Dummies leaflets to random people from the phonebook. On Monday I sent off ten.
We can all do something. I'm just some teenager, and I've planted hundred, maybe thousands of "seeds".

[cafetimes1991]

Was at the library today, looking at the UK ID card propaganda leaflets (this is Ireland, very far away from Northern Ireland + I disagree with the whole ID card "proposal" anyways. I asked the rude woman at the desk what they were for, she was busy with another customer (woops). Another told me people just come in and put these leaflets in there. So I just grabbed all of them, and I'm about to bin them (at the internet café right now with my can of Coke).

[mightiswrong]

And note some people might not have gardens, and to be honest how long is your garden going to feed you?
We must be realistic.

What we need first is to secure and protect our local farmers, we help them so they can help us later.

Instead of buying our food from the Supermarkets we need to get it from our local shops and local butchers, farmers and so on.

The economics are such that unless you are quite comfortable buying proper food locally is (currently) prohibitively expensive as compared to the big supermarkets. The other thing is that most gardens are too small. The priority has to be to get everyone a bigger garden coz otherwise your just going to end up going to the supermarket and putting money in the pockets of these people. Bigger gardens will feed forever and we can also solve the water problem which is so important.

Food grown specially in ones garden is capable of curing Man of “any diseases of the flesh whatsoever but also of significantly retarding the aging process, rescuing him from harmful habits, tremendously increasing his mental abilities and giving him a sense of inner peace.”
http://anastasiasgarden.com/library/healinggardens/

This is an approach that can not be contested by anyone. It is not a crime.

[mightiswrong]

Ask any doctor about the importance of fresh food and they will confirm it is important. For many plants fresh means in less than hour or ideally just picked. If we are serious about making a change than why not go for the ideal?

The claims made about this cultivation technique are shown to hold water in the second part of the following video series. Two peoples cucumbers taste and look different are of different shapes, sizes and yields:

Space of Love (part 1 out of 5) - YouTube

Space of Love (part 2 out of 5) - YouTube

[adbasque]

The economics are such that unless you are quite comfortable buying proper food locally is (currently) prohibitively expensive as compared to the big supermarkets. The other thing is that most gardens are too small. The priority has to be to get everyone a bigger garden coz otherwise your just going to end up going to the supermarket and putting money in the pockets of these people. Bigger gardens will feed forever and we can also solve the water problem which is so important.

Food grown specially in ones garden is capable of curing Man of “any diseases of the flesh whatsoever but also of significantly retarding the aging process, rescuing him from harmful habits, tremendously increasing his mental abilities and giving him a sense of inner peace.”
http://anastasiasgarden.com/library/healinggardens/

This is an approach that can not be contested by anyone. It is not a crime.

Yes, natural food has no equivalent, but we must be realistic, I gew up with land around me when I was younger, I am not worried about working that land.

But just think for a minute, how many people on this planet have a piece of land?
most people live in cities and towns, some places are just concrete.

It's rather amazing if we think back most lands on this planet belonged to people, now almost all lands owned by corporations, rich, "government", to be honest with I don't expect my garden to feed me.

you need at least 1 acre of land in order to survive.

It's ideal to be able to live from the land but it's not as easy as people make it sound.

[mightiswrong]

If your playing snooker and you need to pot the black to win you don't aim for the brown. If you can get 10% of your food from your garden then that will give you a boost in health and you can use the money you save to buy better quality localy produced food but realistically why stop there?

[adbasque]

If your playing snooker and you need to pot the black to win you don't aim for the brown. If you can get 10% of your food from your garden then that will give you a boost in health and you can use the money you save to buy better quality localy produced food but realistically why stop there?

I hear what you're saying, I agree except it's an uphill struggle
I think people should claim back their lands from the big greedy corporates,

Because I am almost certain that most land owners had either their lands ceased away unlawfully, stolen from them.

for those who have land can work on their lands to suvive, and those who don't have land could support their local farmers and produce.

Just banckrupt these big greedy bastards and kick them out of the way, we don't need them.

They are squeezing farmers on one hand and squeezing us (consumers) on the other, and they are in the middle getting richer and fatter.

that's what pisses me off, and if all farmers get together and start like a market where every farmer on the land could sell his produce, they will benefit from it and we will benifit from it too.

We leave the corporations out to dry

[mightiswrong]

I hear what you're saying, I agree except it's an uphill struggle

Not really. It's like cooking dinner for the whole family and doing the washing up too. If you all work together then it is no major task and is fun and enjoyable. Also if you compare with the hassle of going to the supermarket, cueing up at the check out and all the hours of work it takes to earn the money to buy the crap food from them in the first place you quickly realise it is much more relaxing, healing and enjoyable to have a food garden. Once you get things established then the plants do the work for you. Things like fruit & nut trees, berries, mushrooms etc. etc. preety much look after themselves and all you need to do is pick the fruit. Root vegetables will come back year after year provided you leave some of them in place etc. etc.


I think people should claim back their lands from the big greedy corporates,

Yes.



for those who have land can work on their lands to suvive, and those who don't have land could support their local farmers and produce.


As I said it's not really work. It is a pleasure and it puts us in a position to thrive rather than survive.

We leave the corporations out to dry

Yes but that is only a byproduct of our own self interest in having the ideal food, water and living conditions.

[mightiswrong]

The value of each plant planted ten years ago has grown a hundred-fold (and sometimes a thousand-fold), once, moreover, it has reproduced itself many times without the help of man, augmenting his passive income yearly in increasing progression.
Fifth, his motto: "minimum work, maximum effect." Today his domain is a self-sufficient, self-developing system. I cannot parade the amount of his annual income without his consent, but, believe me, it is impressive, as is the general value of his entire domain. He lives off the sale of saplings, plant seeds, fish, crawfish, mushrooms, nuts, fruits, berries, and vegetables, and now seminars as well. What's more he does not trouble himself with gathering the harvest. On the other hand, there are enough people willing to gather wholesome, ecologically pure crops, and in doing so to pay 18 to 20 times more for the products than in the usual commercial network.
http://www.krameterhof.at/en/index.php?id=rueckblick

[smoke n mirrors]

There's so much we can friggin' do, everyone. I went crazy with a marker last Friday, and wrote "infowars.com" everywhere I could in Cork City + I put up like ten stickers which I designed myself.
Whenever you get a bank not, write "davidicke.com" on it or something.
I saw a low down billboard last Friday too, saying "join the revolution", then a link to a website. I drew an arrow from it to "infowars.com" in my writing.
Today I posted off fourteen 9/11 Truth For Dummies leaflets to random people from the phonebook. On Monday I sent off ten.
We can all do something. I'm just some teenager, and I've planted hundred, maybe thousands of "seeds".

Nice work.

Icke was right visit davidicke.com on notes nice thinking, use their weapon of choice against them. Sweet! I will sow a few seeds.

You could start a thread, and see how many Icke cash awareness voucher readers visit. We should all get aboard.

[christophera]

I started this thread so people can suggest what we can do

we have a priceless gift here, the The internet
And we don't know how long we will have it for!!
Come on!!

9-11 was it, but fair use of evidence with discretion and reason is not respected, even in the 9-11 forum here, so the greatest issue respected by all, no matter what side of the fence, is not something we can do.

DARPA financed the web because they knew they could use it to mislead the masses and that meaningful agreements between people hundreds or thousands of miles apart are meaningless.

So, ....... here we are. I know exactly what to do and have been doing it for going on 8 years, (http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html) but the psyops misleading the 9-11 truth movement is too dense and people are conditioned by media, tv society etc, to be more responsive to social fears than facts and logic.

Now the society is fractured in a general fear state.

[mightiswrong]

I've said it before but 9/11 is a very insignificant conspiracy as compared to the banking conspiracy but even the banking conspiracy is like a drop in the ocean when compared to the conspiracy to convince people that 'self-sufficiency' is for 'peasants' and labeling it 'subsistence farming' and suggesting it is 'hard work' and a 'struggle' to 'survive' when in reality it is the technocratic system that generates hard work, ill health, social collapse, poverty, malnutrition, starvation, war and genocide that can and is easily and quickly stopped by planting family food gardens.

[diamondgeezer]

when in reality the technocratic system generates hard work, ill health, social collapse, poverty, malnutrition, starvation, war and genocide

Indeed. But lets get it right...'technocratic system' really = capitalism...

[christophera]

Indeed. But lets get it right..." system' really = capitalism...

I would agree. However, such would be labeling and the issues are really spiritual. As people we've allowed ourselves to become alienated from our fellow citizen by media and now it is very difficult, if even impossible to get cooperations working.
Beyond spiritual, it becomes deeply psychological, particuarly if one seeks to find away out without the designed result the manipulating ptb have in mind.

Or, what agreement could you and I make right here and now that could mean one one millionth more than a rats ass. Now, .......... if there was an entity, some sort of spiritual authority witnessing, that we and many others respected, who came forward at appropriate moments to show approval of what works, that would help to simply examine the function of what we've labeled "'technocratic" and "capitolism" and where such concepts can be appropriately practiced rather that being placed in leadership positions automatically.

[mightiswrong]

Capital can and is invested in creation rather than destruction and as such is a powerful tool at our disposal for the creation of a civilised civilisation. That is why I said technocratic system rather than capitalism.

[diamondgeezer]

Capital can and is invested in creation rather than destruction and as such is a powerful tool at our disposal for the creation of a civilised civilisation. That is why I said technocratic system rather than capitalism.

No, capitalism is both creation and destruction...that is its essence.

Look at how it works..constant consumerism..there always has to be a market, there always has to be the raw materials to fuel that market (unsustainable & globally destructive raw materials as things stand now). Capitalism always means boom & bust..haves and have-nots..its the nature of the beast..

And what happens when the shit really hits the fan, like it is doing now? ;)We have a war, always gets things back on track economically...

[mightiswrong]

No, capitalism is both creation and destruction...that is its essence.


Capital is neither destructive nor creative. It is Man that is either destructive or creative. There is no point in trying to whitewash what I said.

I didn't say capitalism. I said technocratic system.

All tools including money can and are being used for creation.

[cafetimes1991]

Nice work.

Icke was right visit davidicke.com on notes nice thinking, use their weapon of choice against them. Sweet! I will sow a few seeds.

You could start a thread, and see how many Icke cash awareness voucher readers visit. We should all get aboard.

Thanks, smoke n mirrors.
Absolutely, go sow a few seeds. It's quick and many people will read what you've written on the note. We must write on notes all we can before we become a cashless society :eek: )
A thread to see how many became members of this forum, because they saw a link on a bank note, you mean? I think it would quickly become lost amongst all the other threads. I often wonder what affect my leaflets and other activities have had though. I distributed 9/11 ones at my local council building last year, one person I found out thought about ringing my school to complain. They obviously didn't even read the leaflet. Jeez.

[diamondgeezer]

Capital is neither destructive nor creative. It is Man that is either destructive or creative. There is no point in trying to whitewash what I said.


Its both destructive & creative, inarguably. How do you conclude that I'm trying to 'whitewash' what you said..?


I didn't say capitalism. I said technocratic system.

;)Same difference mate.

[gilly]

Stop dithering about, and get some faith in yourselves - that poll should be on 100% "I know we can!" :)

[mightiswrong]

Its both destructive & creative, inarguably. How do you conclude that I'm trying to 'whitewash' what you said..?




;)Same difference mate.


No it's completely different. Once again you are trying to whitewash what I said. Inarguably capital can only be directed by people. It does not choose where to be invested on it's own.

[smoke n mirrors]

Thanks, smoke n mirrors.
Absolutely, go sow a few seeds. It's quick and many people will read what you've written on the note. We must write on notes all we can before we become a cashless society :eek: )

Unfortunately we have a mainly brainless society, so the cashless one is inevitable! People just can't or won't see what the issue is with being cashless. They think its a great idea to have your personal communicator, wallet and tracking system all in one device. Agreed we need to make the most of it while we can!

A thread to see how many became members of this forum, because they saw a link on a bank note, you mean? I think it would quickly become lost amongst all the other threads. I often wonder what affect my leaflets and other activities have had though.

If you start a campaign and we join in maybe the mods would sticky it for you. From what I have been hearing from folks over there...things are not going so well. I imagine you're having an effect and every little helps!

I distributed 9/11 ones at my local council building last year, one person I found out thought about ringing my school to complain. They obviously didn't even read the leaflet. Jeez.

If they worked out which school you go to, maybe you need to be a little more covert, when on one of your missions. Someone will have read your leaflet, so your objective was achieved.

Good luck and take it easy out there,

PS. I hope your Icke was right cash awareness campaign gets taken up. Maybe we should put DON'T visit davidicke.com (wet paint effect). Also don't write it in bold black ink, try and make it more subtle/subliminal. Intrigue is far more tempting than a smack in the face...when people feel like they have discovered something, it will be far more enticing.


Just a thought.

[cafetimes1991]

Maybe we should put DON'T visit davidicke.com (wet paint effect). Also don't write it in bold black ink, try and make it more subtle/subliminal.

Haha. I like it. Like that German conspiracy guy's book that says "Don't touch this book!". From now on I'm going to write "don't visit davidicke.com".
I'm not sure how to make my message look more subtle/subliminal though. Like seemingly hiding it on the note?

http://www.bundesbank.de/bargeld/images/banknoten/5euro_rs_709x364.jpg

[fairyelfdog]

I think one thing is very clear;

The time for talking is over - The time for doing should begin now :)

Talking is doing. Words are magic. Spread the understanding and refuse to cooperate!

[fairyelfdog]

nice.....:D

all that post needed was a gripping bit of music & we would of all left our houses by now, to begin the NWO EXTERMINATION!! ;)





:)SK
Thank you, Skunksmash. Nice sense of humour you have there.

[smoke n mirrors]

Haha. I like it. Like that German conspiracy guy's book that says "Don't touch this book!". From now on I'm going to write "don't visit davidicke.com".
I'm not sure how to make my message look more subtle/subliminal though. Like seemingly hiding it on the note?

http://www.bundesbank.de/bargeld/images/banknoten/5euro_rs_709x364.jpg

You could try this. Maybe some of the artists, on here could come up with some thing more creative. One for each countries bank notes. I'm sure they could do some funky stuff!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=381&pictureid=3558

I have sorted all my seed notes out and will be sowing them shortly. If anyone finds one in the wild post in here. Thanks

[adbasque]

I've said it before but 9/11 is a very insignificant conspiracy as compared to the banking conspiracy but even the banking conspiracy is like a drop in the ocean when compared to the conspiracy to convince people that 'self-sufficiency' is for 'peasants' and labeling it 'subsistence farming' and suggesting it is 'hard work' and a 'struggle' to 'survive' when in reality it is the technocratic system that generates hard work, ill health, social collapse, poverty, malnutrition, starvation, war and genocide that can and is easily and quickly stopped by planting family food gardens.

I totally agree with you, definitely

I tell you what really goes on in people's minds, and it's been induced, some people see agriculture as "dumb" in their subconcious they think only simple minded people who work their land.

As it's been portrayed as hard work, which is not the case especially with the modern technology, we have all the tools to work our lands and have time to enjoy life

And as you said, it's enjoyable, how I know? I have done it since I was 8 or ten years old.

Ok I used to spend my summer holidays with my grand dad, and for those who don't know it, it is very therapeutic to work the land.

Yes they are telling us it's hard work, it's difficult and so on, to put people off and make them sell their lands to the big greedy corporations, and it's not just to sell them the land.
The worry is they use that land, to sell us a genetically modified produce, poison us with chemicals, insecticides, and no wonders why more and more people are dying young and from cancer.

our food is poisoned, our waters are poisoned, the only way to survive now is to turn back to basics, and what a better way to look after this planet?

Well we have the choice what we need is the will, and above all we need to be responsible

[bluehorseman]

:cool:Yes I thought about this today a bit. We will topple them, I think that they are already on the downward slide.

They initiated a collapse of the economy starting from a philosophical viewpoint sold to the first world populace that we could all be as rich as them, showing us how to reinvest equity to create wealth and greed etc - this imo has failed and as a result I think there have been a few casualties in their own ranks so...
They have introduced a pandemic to do with pigs and this, I predict, wont work and it seems a bit rushed sort of like plan b type of thing - much like the earthquakes and flybys over nyc etc. Who knows what next but whatever it is the world has shown amazing resilience to their efforts (if you are of the opinion that they rule and control just about everything.)

To hit back...mmm

1. Form a coalition of like minded groups over all national borders based off a consensus of ideas.
2. Repesentatives from all these nations meet to form above said consensus, form a treaty. Perhaps this coalition monitors U.N, Amnesty int, Greenpeace, Fox tv, Bilderberg etc to become a international watchdog for truth and transparency in these organisations initially.
3. Local members pool resources for the cause to send representatives to meetings; introduce a tithe. Funds sought from wealthy individuals and investing advice used to grow money for working capital.
4. Create a international safe haven that is guaranteed nwo/illuminati free to be a base.
5. Make the world peaceful.

Just an idea, but worth considering.:cool:

[christophera]

Stop dithering about, and get some faith in yourselves - that poll should be on 100% "I know we can!" :)

I do too, if only there was a we.


Corporatisim and the dumbing down of America have conspired to create as many differences as possible

http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827

The psyops creates and active campaign of misinformation and misleading with obvious efforts to prevent any leadership no matter where one goes.

We will prevail in crisis management by creating default unity.

For example, simple irony in humor, we only laugh at what we understand.

The Job (Official Award WinningShort Film) - YouTube

[vladmir]

Dont wait for anyone else
Word.

[smoke n mirrors]

cafetimes1991,

Have you got a name for the campaign? If not maybe someone here can dream one up. Something like Money 4 Minds or Bucks 4 Schmucks blar blar.

Sowed a few this morning.

[christophera]

:cool:Yes I thought about this today a bit. We will topple them, I think that they are already on the downward slide.

They initiated a collapse of the economy starting from a philosophical viewpoint sold to the first world populace that we could all be as rich as them, showing us how to reinvest equity to create wealth and greed etc - this imo has failed and as a result I think there have been a few casualties in their own ranks so...
They have introduced a pandemic to do with pigs and this, I predict, wont work and it seems a bit rushed sort of like plan b type of thing - much like the earthquakes and flybys over nyc etc. Who knows what next but whatever it is the world has shown amazing resilience to their efforts (if you are of the opinion that they rule and control just about everything.)

To hit back...mmm

1. Form a coalition of like minded groups over all national borders based off a consensus of ideas.
2. Repesentatives from all these nations meet to form above said consensus, form a treaty. Perhaps this coalition monitors U.N, Amnesty int, Greenpeace, Fox tv, Bilderberg etc to become a international watchdog for truth and transparency in these organisations initially.
3. Local members pool resources for the cause to send representatives to meetings; introduce a tithe. Funds sought from wealthy individuals and investing advice used to grow money for working capital.
4. Create a international safe haven that is guaranteed nwo/illuminati free to be a base.
5. Make the world peaceful.

Just an idea, but worth considering.:cool:

Good post!

On #4, how is the guarantee certified?

[bluehorseman]

Hi Christophera - How to make a safe haven - not quite sure on details.

I think start with a farm, then a village, then an area like a valley, then a town. Start with some land to make the buildings for the base and work from there.

Put the flag in the ground first and go from there.

Vet all people who come into the inner sanctum much like the opposition do; make it hard to infiltrate using counter security methods and surround it in orgonite.

There thats the start....:)

[christophera]

Hi Christophera - How to make a safe haven - not quite sure on details.

I think start with a farm, then a village, then an area like a valley, then a town. Start with some land to make the buildings for the base and work from there.

Put the flag in the ground first and go from there.

Vet all people who come into the inner sanctum much like the opposition do; make it hard to infiltrate using counter security methods and surround it in orgonite.

There thats the start....:)

Yup, the material one. Logical quality methods. However, the intentional one might likely be much harder to establish. If we had a method to take a persons cognitively found intention and be sure it was also unconsciously dominant, we could go forward as a unit of purity.

This might have a lot more applications than healing.

http://algoxy.com/psych/thetreatment.html

[bluehorseman]

:)I'm being a bit fascitious here christophera but from your link do you suggest we bomb everyone with nitrous oxide then while they are in a hypnotic catatonic state issue directives to their subconcious minds to make them change their behaviours? This indeed would be a cunning way to make sure all conciousness' (conciousnae?) were on the same playing field and working together for sure but wouldn't there be a few ethical considerations to mull around a bit? Please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick here.
I very much like the sounds of the treatment from the link I would like to know what plans you had for it...:)

[diamondgeezer]

No it's completely different. Once again you are trying to whitewash what I said. Inarguably capital can only be directed by people. It does not choose where to be invested on it's own.

Why are you trying to establish 'capital' or 'capitalism' as some sort of entity of its own? Of course it can only be directed by people...people created it, as a system..

I'm not trying to 'whitewash' what you said: I'm simply telling you that you are wrong. Capitalism is destructive..destruction of the rainforests, depletion (eventually) of natural recources, gas oil etc =CAPITALISM. And eventually, if we don't change our ways/SYSTEM, it'll be the destruction of US! Fact.

It doesn't have to be this way...mankind lived in harmony with his environment (still does in some places) before global industrialisation (capitalism) came along. Perhaps we actually need nature to step in with a global pandemic to save us from ourselves before its to late eh:rolleyes:bring on the pig flu lol..