WHO alert level raised from 5 to 6

[pri01]

http://www.who.int/en/

it's still 5.

[gilly]

This is from Alex Jones live, the WHO is still at phase 5 but there is evidence (allegedly) that the US govt are treating this as phase 6.

Thanks for the update Simplysimon.

[jiffy]

Thank god she is the voice of reason, now Alex is agreeing with her. WTF one minute he is implying doom & gloom then he agrees with her that it is a conspiracy

You couldn't make it up

talk about cover all your bases

[ex sheep]

AJ said that he's had info that its really level 6 not 5, trying to understand him

[qeutey]

AJ said that he's had info that its really level 6 not 5, trying to understand him

It starts by saying this comes from a friend of a friend of doctor in Mexico:


"During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.

- They are advising President Obama to declare an emergency sometime in the next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn’t, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days minimum.

- I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close contact that are the biggest risk.
"

It then goes on to mention certain homeopathic remedies from a certain local pharmacy store.

I wouldn't get excited about this.

[jiffy]

AJ said that he's had info that its really level 6 not 5, trying to understand him

I don't think you will;)

He clearly doesn't believe his own fear mongering, still when the dust settles the so called "awoken" wont remember all his drivel.

Amazing how he picks which "official" statements suit his arguments

[keithm]

Deborah Orr: We need to be inoculated against outbreaks of panic

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/deborah-orr/deborah-orr-we-need-to-be-inoculated-against-outbreaks-of-panic-1676345.html

[simplysimon]

Ok, let's just take a few deep breaths and take a step back.

I guess if my local school governor came to me and showed me some documents that the govt wanted to close the school down because of this flu, I'd be pretty worried. If that was tied in with the deputy PM saying don't travel on buses, trains, tubes or airplanes, I'd then be very, very concerned.

If the above is being used to cover the Chrysler collapse, then it is seriously irresponsible at best.

We have to remember that this flu is a bit closer to AJ than us and that there is no harm in listening to what is going on.

[jiffy]

Ok, let's just take a few deep breaths and take a step back.

I guess if my local school governor came to me and showed me some documents that the govt wanted to close the school down because of this flu, I'd be pretty worried.


My sisters had a document saying the very same thing last winter in the UK, I believe this was sent to all schools in our area.

I treated it the same as this nonsense, in the bin

[phemohilia]

I noticed a few posts regarding colloidal silver in this thread and others on these forums and i would like to link this page that sent a red mist over my face.

http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2159

These are the worst kind of people.

Edit: After looking around some more on the forum i found http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1235


I clicked on both links and I have to say, fuck, every post I read was pathetic to the point of laughing out loud, poor ignorant bastards!! :)

[qeutey]

Iran Press TV worldwide. Is this a comedy show?

[simplysimon]

Iran Press TV worldwide. Is this a comedy show?

Nope, Press TV do some very unbiased reporting. They did some great coverage on the Israel/Palestinian conflict, giving a far more balanced report.

You can find them SKY (CH 516 I think)

[qeutey]

Nope, Press TV do some very unbiased reporting. They did some great coverage on the Israel/Palestinian conflict, giving a far more balanced report.

You can find them SKY (CH 516 I think)

Yep, ok. (thanks) Just tuned in.

[nayan]

Indeed, I couldn't agree more with this. I think we're going to have a lot of people that are going to need our collective awareness of this issue.

People that know nothing of this are going to be terrified. I guess we all get our chance to serve now :)


I really do agree with you, this is the time.

___________________________________________
"I believe that truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality"

[phemohilia]

I tried listening to Alex Jones and actually made it through most of his videos and read and skimmed through a lot of what was on his websites, but alas I just had to give up on him in 2006.

When Intuition/Gut Feeling/Spirit tells you "this one ain't a Keeper" then it's probably best to listen, and that's what I got from AJ. He just didn't set well with me and I moved on.

And I also find it hard to take anyone serious when they mimic pro wrestlers in their delivery of what is possibly "extremely important IF NOT VITAL Information"...... what with the screaming, finger-pointing and spitting into the camera and don't get me started on the cinematic swells of Star Trek-like theme music.....

Aaahhhhhh, God love him, I don't want to speak badly of him, but he's just not for me!!

:)

[kingmonkey]

Aaahhhhhh, God love him, I don't want to speak badly of him, but he's just not for me!!

:)

I'm still waiting to see some evidence of this phase 5 = martial law shit he's been spouting. The rumour's spread like wildfire and not a shred of evidence.

[darkovic]

British army pulling out of Iraq today too. Not all going to Afghanistan.

Quarantine needs to be enforced and they will use troops to do it and they can legally shoot people who breach quarantine. No this is not sci-fi.

Read about COBRA (nice name huh?) the british emergency team that decide who lives and who dies in extreme circumstances, like national triage... they have been meeting this week and not looking happy.

200 ish people have died form the Mexican BS flu and 12500 ish die every year in the UK from influenza. It is a scare story all of this but why? What is their aim? Just to get people scared and stressed, like the Obama fly past of skyscrapers? "Remember 911 you fuckers! Remember how scared you were!" is basically what they were saying with that. Everyone who is uninformed will be very stressed out about now... perfect time for a nice mass psyop... maybe tomorrow on mayday, maybe not. Wait until tomorrow lol

Like I used to say... don't be fat when it goes off. Hope people listened. :)

[phemohilia]

"Don't be fat when it goes off!!"


I have to know, what in the world does that mean???? :confused:

[darkovic]

"Don't be fat when it goes off!!"


I have to know, what in the world does that mean???? :confused:

haha I mean if you are a big fatty who can't even run for a bus then you're gonna be fucked aren't you when things get "hairy".

[phemohilia]

Ahhhh, I see!! hahahaha!!

[tomaton]

I'm still waiting to see some evidence of this phase 5 = martial law shit he's been spouting. The rumour's spread like wildfire and not a shred of evidence.

Here in Mexico, government is declaring a forced cease of economical activity in all the country, from may 1st to may 5th. just basic sectors of the economy will work like communications, banks, supermarkets, transportation and such

not martial law ..... but getting closer to it, imo, every day

[unusual_suspect]

haha i mean if you are a big fatty who can't even run for a bus then you're gonna be fucked aren't you when things get "hairy".

lmfao! :d

[theuselesseater]

I'm still waiting to see some evidence of this phase 5 = martial law shit he's been spouting. The rumour's spread like wildfire and not a shred of evidence.

It depends what you consider "Martial Law".

If by martial law you mean restriction of public gatherings, events etc then in the UK they can do that now (Level 5).

Once (IF) we reach level 6 then they can use part 2 of the civil contingencies act and implemented "EMERGENCY POWERS".

The above two facts are documented in the London pandemic flu response plan (Link below), each UK region has one - Every country likely has one similar linked to the WHO pandemic level scale.

http://www.londonprepared.gov.uk/downloads/londonsplans/london-flu-planV4.pdf

You can read the possible implications of the Civil Contingencies act and the emergency powers on the link below (our very own enabling act).

http://jameshammerton.blogspot.com/2004/10/is-britain-headed-for-dictatorship.html

WHO knows what is in store for us....

TUE - Jason

[trinity v]

I don't suppose anyone on here actually has any real facts on swine flu?

Last I heard there where only 7 actual confirmed deaths from swine flu in Mexico. By confirmed I mean 7 where tests have shown the swine flu was the cause, as opposed to the 200 or so the press are claiming, but are so far only known to be flu related deaths.

All this media hysteria around 200 deaths from a flu outbreak, but none of them actually cross reference this with previous figures on flu deaths in Mexico. Flu kills thousands of people every year, its nothing new, but it does sell papers.

[daniel1987]

The above two facts are documented in the London pandemic flu response plan (Link below), each UK region has one - Every country likely has one similar linked to the WHO pandemic level scale.

http://www.londonprepared.gov.uk/downloads/londonsplans/london-flu-planV4.pdf

On page 89, there's a section entitled "DEALING WITH EXCESS DEATHS." :(

[col_ad74]

It depends what you consider "Martial Law".

If by martial law you mean restriction of public gatherings, events etc then in the UK they can do that now (Level 5).

Once (IF) we reach level 6 then they can use part 2 of the civil contingencies act and implemented "EMERGENCY POWERS".

The above two facts are documented in the London pandemic flu response plan (Link below), each UK region has one - Every country likely has one similar linked to the WHO pandemic level scale.

http://www.londonprepared.gov.uk/downloads/londonsplans/london-flu-planV4.pdf

You can read the possible implications of the Civil Contingencies act and the emergency powers on the link below (our very own enabling act).

http://jameshammerton.blogspot.com/2004/10/is-britain-headed-for-dictatorship.html

WHO knows what is in store for us....

TUE - Jason

more in depth pdf on the WHO phases phase 6 on page 39

WHO global influenza
preparedness plan (http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/influenza/WHO_CDS_CSR_GIP_2005_5.pdf).

Affected countries
1. Implement all relevant elements of national
pandemic plan, including coordination of response
and implementation of specific interventions.
2. Assess and publicize the current and cumulative
national impact.
3. Consider applying emergency powers.

[beldazar]

I don't suppose anyone on here actually has any real facts on swine flu?

Last I heard there where only 7 actual confirmed deaths from swine flu in Mexico. By confirmed I mean 7 where tests have shown the swine flu was the cause, as opposed to the 200 or so the press are claiming, but are so far only known to be flu related deaths.

All this media hysteria around 200 deaths from a flu outbreak, but none of them actually cross reference this with previous figures on flu deaths in Mexico. Flu kills thousands of people every year, its nothing new, but it does sell papers.

Yes I think most people on here read the headlines page.....

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/only-7-swine-flu-deaths-not-152-says-who/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/29/swine-flu-mexico-uk-media1

[beldazar]

lol, level 6 now eh? The worlds gone mad!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[jiffy]

I don't suppose anyone on here actually has any real facts on swine flu?

Last I heard there where only 7 actual confirmed deaths from swine flu in Mexico. By confirmed I mean 7 where tests have shown the swine flu was the cause, as opposed to the 200 or so the press are claiming, but are so far only known to be flu related deaths.

All this media hysteria around 200 deaths from a flu outbreak, but none of them actually cross reference this with previous figures on flu deaths in Mexico. Flu kills thousands of people every year, its nothing new, but it does sell papers.

Nope your bang up to date. well it's a whole 8 dead now:rolleyes:

According to Alex Jones the virus has a 40% 50% clinical attack rate.
So given Mexico City has a populous of some 20 million souls there could/should be 8 to 10 millions casualties.

But hey the MSM is hiding it from us:rolleyes: There is no internet in Mexico no bloggers, no Twitters, no forum users.

Still I will leave the Car crash fantasist to dream;)

[kingmonkey]

lol, level 6 now eh? The worlds gone mad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcY2-H_y69A


Did I just imagine that he spent 11 minutes talking about a document that alleges martial law is implemented, then didn't read anything from it? Did he put the document up on his website yet?

[cornilouse]

people really should stop giving any time to Alex Jones, the man is a useful as blossom goodchild

[beldazar]

yes Im starting to think that.....

[steevo]

people really should stop giving any time to Alex Jones, the man is a useful as blossom goodchild

No one is stopping YOU doing what you want to do. Dont listen to him if you dont want to. I'm happy with that :)
Personally, I listen to his broadcast now and again, but that's up to me isnt it.

[skunksmash]

so whats the big deal with AJ..??

surly with all this hatred there must be some substancial evidence that shows him to be spreading disinformation...??

can i see it..?? :p



:)SK

[jiffy]

so whats the big deal with AJ..??

surly with all this hatred there must be some substancial evidence that shows him to be spreading disinformation...??

can i see it..?? :p
:)SK

Well listen to his last radio broadcast with "OPEN EARS" unlike ppl that only appear to hear what they wish.

I have no agenda towards AJ as I don't to anyone, but years of being a top level trouble shooter I do feel I'm able to stand back and access a situation with clarity and objectivity.

We will have to wait and see as to what extent he is proved to be providing disinformation.

I will say that his show this afternoon was somewhat a joke.....Very theatrical with little evidence and some comments that I can't find that he claims are in the main stream media.

He then appeared to back track when a Dr came on saying it is all a fear mongering scam, which TBH is so obvious it is beyond me that some can't see it.:eek:


According to Alex Jones the virus has a 40% 50% clinical attack rate.
So given Mexico City has a populous of some 20 million souls there could/should be 8 to 10 millions casualties.

But hey the MSM is hiding it from us:rolleyes: There is no internet in Mexico no bloggers, no Twitters, no forum users.


He also implied that Marshall Law was happening and that Level 6 had been called I don't see either coming, like I said we will have to see.

[ap12345]

If David is correct and the elite are not entirely human, will they still be susceptible to the Swine Flu?

[theuselesseater]

He then appeared to back track when a Dr came on saying it is all a fear mongering scam, which TBH is so obvious it is beyond me that some can't see it.

There is no doubt Alex has flip flopped on this since it broke, one minute its a scam the next its the real deal. The fact is he has no clue and is covering all the bases so he can big himself up whatever happens.

I dont we can tell if this virus will turn out to be deadly or not, so to assume it's all a scam could be premature, however we can say that at this stage their is a huge amount of scare mongering and dis-info out going on.

TUE - Jason...fiirmly sitting on the fence:cool:

[decided]

I am not a fan of AJ. He sensationalizes too much. Other than that...well, it's an individual thing. I do however like Jeff Rense while some people don't like him.

Here is a video I find worth watching. Nothing new for most of you but maybe for some folk there is.

Mexican Swine Flu Outbreak 2009: SPECIAL REPORT by Dr Leonard Horowitz - YouTube

[lynfowars]

people really should stop giving any time to Alex Jones, the man is a useful as blossom goodchild

Every time a spook says that sort of thing, 2 people think fck you, and go listen to him.

[ap12345]

I don't understand why some of you are concerned whether or not this person or that person is bad, surely its the message which is the important thing...that and being opposed to the NWO plans for global enslavement murder and general hell on earth...Alex Jones, David Icke whoever are out there waking people up...if you dont like one or the others site or material and think its not accurate you should make your own...

[dude111]

Why would ALEX JONES be threatend,have his website attacked,etc.. IF WHAT HE IS SAYING ISNT TRUE??

Alex Jones is indeed a saviour for all who want to be AWARE of whats going on!!

[ex sheep]

I just wish he wouldn't sensationalise, he made it sound as if it def went to level 6, and it made me look like a prick for reporting that.
But our gripe should not be with him.
People make mistakes, people are too quick to criticise, even I have been called an agent.
But that's AJ.

[simplysimon]

I just wish he wouldn't sensationalise, he made it sound as if it def went to level 6, and it made me look like a prick for reporting that.
But our gripe should not be with him.
People make mistakes, people are too quick to criticise, even I have been called an agent.
But that's AJ.

Yup, we have to learn to dispassionately listen and take on board someone elses opinion. then we have to trust our own instincts as to the truth.

I reckon it's one of the hardest challenges we face because our egos are always telling us that it knows better.

[adbasque]

We are going to level 6 and then marshall Law will start taking place

[skunksmash]

We are going to level 6 and then martial Law will start taking place


is that a prediction or is it happening as i type..??




:)SK

[beldazar]

We are going to level 6 and then martial Law will start taking place

+and what fucking reason will it go to level 6? Im getting seriously pissed off with all this now! :mad:

[zero1]

is that a prediction or is it happening as i type..?

Alex Jones says it's already @ Level 6.

[ex sheep]

Here we go, fasten your seatbelts

EDIT on this thread

[adbasque]

+and what fucking reason will it go to level 6? Im getting seriously pissed off with all this now! :mad:

Ask them not me, because they want to spread fear so they can bring in Marshall law and curfews and so on.

It would be nice if we could talk without the "what F**"
Pissed off with what?

I have been pissed off for the last 25+ years, this is not a new thing.

[snoop]

oh noes a mild flu level 6 pandemic!!!!:rolleyes:

how many out of 6,706,993,000 people have died we all need to chill a little
sorry they)!!!!

[steevo]

I just wish he wouldn't sensationalise, he made it sound as if it def went to level 6, and it made me look like a prick for reporting that.
But our gripe should not be with him.
People make mistakes, people are too quick to criticise, even I have been called an agent.
But that's AJ.

I listened to the last bit of yesterdays broadcast and AJ said "imagine the impact we would have if EVERY listener got someone else to listen to the show too". And then When todays show began he built it up, and it got people excited and maybe they got other people to listen to it too. Now maybe he did that big build up PURPOSELY to get more seeds planted, and it worked I reckon. The planting of the seeds in people's minds is all that matters, and in fact that is all that can be done anyway. So well done AJ, it worked!

I just wanna point out that when I listen to AJ (and David Icke etc) I question everything they say (in my mind). I never take ANYTHING at face value. It's just info to me, I take it or leave it or digest it and look into it further later, they are just seeds of thought (info). I may discuss it on here with the good members of the forum too, but AGAIN I question EVERYTHING that the forum members say, and I hope that they question everything I say, and also question what each of us says. And on top of that, question your OWN thoughts.

[skunksmash]

im listening to AJ now......

ooh he's jumping around.... ''lvl 6, lvl 6'' ''lets do this!!''

''we got our guns'' .....if you pull guns ppl YOU WILL LOOSE

my thoughts go out to all you lot in the states......



:(SK

[adbasque]

There is no doubt Alex has flip flopped on this since it broke, one minute its a scam the next its the real deal. The fact is he has no clue and is covering all the bases so he can big himself up whatever happens.:

That's not fair on him, to be honest, he never said he knew, he was asking around whether it's the real thing, a drill, or simply scare mongering, he never claimed that he has all the answers.

I think some people here are not being fair to AJ, He is a person he doesn't have all the answers.

So far when ever he claims something I search it and in fact it is or was reported or happened.

I can't remember him lying about anything.

I would welcome anyone who can show me where did he lie :) with evidence of course not the "hear say"

Stop hijacking threads and keep focused, so what if AJ is a liar or a phoney?
that doesn't mean everything he says are not happening.

I don't need him or David Ickes to tell me what is really happening, I discovered david ickes back in 94, alex jones a year later, and I was doing my research way before I heard of them.

They are not the only people who are screaming at the NWO.

I think you need to give the man a break, and try and do better instead of criticising.
Although you're all entitled to your views and opinions, and have the right to listen to his broadcast or not.

But keep the focus please right now we need everybody on our side.

[theuselesseater]

If it has or does go to level 6, that is not an indication of the potency of the virus, surley it only represents sustained transmission between people.

You can have a pandemic with a mild virus.

Although I am still sitting on the fence, I have a thought that this virus could be quite lethal, maybe it has a long period before it mutates as it did (apparently in Mexico)

TUE - Jason

[theuselesseater]

That's not fair on him, to be honest, he never said he knew, he was asking around whether it's the real thing, a drill, or simply scare mongering, he never claimed that he has all the answers.

I think some people here are not being fair to AJ, He is a person he doesn't have all the answers.

So far when ever he claims something I search it and in fact it is or was reported or happened.

I can't remember him lying about anything.

I agree with you...

However, the last few days in his shows he has IMHO fgiven the impression he thinks its fake then that its very real...

Not that I am complaining...I like AJ, however research all info I get...

TUE - Jason

[adbasque]

I agree with you...

However, the last few days in his shows he has IMHO fgiven the impression he thinks its fake then that its very real...

Not that I am complaining...I like AJ, however research all info I get...

TUE - Jason

I guess what most people didn't get is his frustration, he hates not having answers, wouldn't you?
so he was like a headless chicken in the last couple of days, i'd say he was a little lost.

But it happens to all of us, add the pressure he wants to keep his audience and spread the word.

Yes I do check everything, and recheck it again, and again, I don't just accept things that I hear the first time around.

Also step away from it all and analyse, who said it, why he (they) said it, who has to gain from it, and why now? etc...

But to bash a man just like that I don't think it's fair, give the man the benefit of the doubt.

He has one habit I don't like, it's when somebody phones up with an information as soon as he starts talking he interrupts them to finish the story himself.

He likes people to think that he knows a great deal, and I think that's wrong, you can't just cut people off like that.

Let them finish what they have to say even if you know about that particular information, just at the end I have heard it or read it somewhere etc..

The other he loses his temper very quickly and he doesn't like criticism, you can be in the spotlights and expect everyone to agree with you lol :D

But I think he just turned the corner

[skunksmash]

i like him....... if for no other reason than him standing in front of that federal building with the big microphone..... THAT WAS GREAT!! :D



:)SK

[adbasque]

If it has or does go to level 6, that is not an indication of the potency of the virus, surley it only represents sustained transmission between people.

You can have a pandemic with a mild virus.

Although I am still sitting on the fence, I have a thought that this virus could be quite lethal, maybe it has a long period before it mutates as it did (apparently in Mexico)

TUE - Jason

What I meant by it's going up to level 6, it's what they are going to do, for the sole purpose to bring in marshall law, they are more interested in marshall law than this virus, once they declare a state of emergency they can do whatever the hell they want.

I know the virus right now is not dangerous, it's all hype, but they have the media, they raise it to level 10 if they want to, but they are trying to make it convincing.

They can even release another virus who would notice? even if this one isn't deadly they do have the one they can kill.

remember they dug out bodies in Alaska from 1918, they kept those bodies, under pretext for studies ;) if you believe that you'll believe anything.

they have deadly viruses ready to be unleashed on us, and who's to say that this one is going away?

But sometimes you say something and all you get is F** this and F** that, this is not a civilised way to communicate.

[celtic isis]

+and what fucking reason will it go to level 6? Im getting seriously pissed off with all this now! :mad:

this is true i have never seen you use the F word before like that haha :D

hugs ;)

[beldazar]

Oh hiya Celtic, yes, I have a right bee in my bonnet at the mo, Ive calmed down a bit...I was so close to exploding an hour ago, I was willing to throw out all the insults ever invented and wasnt at all worried if I got banned forever from this forum :cool: :D

Im cool.....:o

[ex sheep]

Duck everybody

[theuselesseater]

Looking Good - FLU FASHION:rolleyes:

If you don't want it, flaunt it.

As swine flu approaches the pandemic stage, a new fad is going viral: the swine flu fashion mask.

Graphic designers and online retailers are offering swinophobes everywhere the chance to make a fashion statement — even as they ward off the deadly bug.

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_7151_images/0430091215_M_043009_masks5.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html

TUE - Jason

[adbasque]

Oh hiya Celtic, yes, I have a right bee in my bonnet at the mo, Ive calmed down a bit...I was so close to exploding an hour ago, I was willing to throw out all the insults ever invented and wasnt at all worried if I got banned forever from this forum :cool: :D

Im cool.....:o

But why were you P** off?
what did I say that P** you off?

If I said what I said is because I know how they operate, just like we predicted this crisis, and the coming ones, like nuke attacks on some cities.

They started by slipping in little by little, to get people ready, that nukes were stolen from Pakistan by again "Al-Quaeda" in few months time, we will see a series of attacks.

I hope I am wrong, remember that these people do things according to their plan, agenda and dates, dates are very important to them.

So they are not difficult to predict.

[phemohilia]

Speaking of dates being important..... Numbers are as well.....

From 1976 until 2009, that's 33 years.....

Just thought I'd throw that out there!!


;)

[zero1]

Speaking of dates being important..... Numbers are as well.....

From 1976 until 2009, that's 33 years.....

Just thought I'd throw that out there!!



Good cop. ;):cool:

It seems less and less of a coincidence on examination, hm?

Given the religious significance of "pigs"...

[adbasque]

Good cop. ;):cool:

It seems less and less of a coincidence on examination, hm?

Given the religious significance of "pigs"...

Maybe they released the swine flu it's because how they see us
as pigs

Yes dates are very important to them.

[kingmonkey]

Why would ALEX JONES be threatend,have his website attacked,etc.. IF WHAT HE IS SAYING ISNT TRUE??

Alex Jones is indeed a saviour for all who want to be AWARE of whats going on!!


This is my problem with Alex Jones...Firstly, who says he's being threatened? Him.

Secondly, maybe there is a problem with this flu shit. tptb aren't as all knowing as people are making out. I know scientists personally who laugh at me when I even bring up some of the things that get mentioned on here; they don't do it because they're ignorant or programmed; they undertstand these things...Alex Jones is scaring people and proving nothing with his stupid fucking documents and so called "witnesses". I've been waiting all day for a decent piece of evidence from him, all he shows is one email from one person. That one person is nowhere near qualified to judge and make any type of paradigm of what's happenin. The reason tptb might be trying to shut him up is because he's causing panic. I for one agree with them if that's the case; the press are behaving in true right wing Murduch-esque fashion and trying to fuck us all up...Maybe there are people in the gov. who aren't down with this agenda...don't buy into Alex Jones's fear...Give humanity a chance to act by their own free will...Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck the Gov., fuck the press...Let's have some reason on this forum...

I will not back down to anyone on this forum telling me, a) i'm gonna die.

B) we're under martial law (or your country's equivalent.

c) The Illuminati are all powerful and are gonna win...

Fuck it...This flu shit is annoying now...If you all get paranoid, you've already lost...And where the fuck is Icke??? Let's see what he has to say, seeing as it's his forum.

The Illuminati is a group within a group...who's seen Point Break? The Illuminati are surfers! Surfing the endless wave...Their summer is over for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-Fso2EZq8
Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck David Icke, Fuck the CFR, Fuck th Who, Fuck the U.N...HAHA...:D:D:D:D

just a ride - YouTube

[steevo]

Can we get back on topic now please ? :)

[siliconpsychosis]

According to Wiki....

The Pig Olympics are a sporting event organized by and for specially-bred and trained piglets
The 2006 competition was held in Moscow Russia, while in 2005 the Pig Olympics were held in China. The Pig Olympics will next be in 2009 in St Louis.
Events within the competition include pig-racing (over an obstacle course), pig swimming (introduced at the 2006 Pig Olympics), and 'pigball' or 'swineball' which is much like football or soccer.
The piglets in the games are not eaten, instead, they are bred for the next generation of pig-players.....


In ,light of the piglet flu. I wonder if this years Pig Olympics is cancelled.

[gripit]

Speaking of dates being important..... Numbers are as well.....

From 1976 until 2009, that's 33 years.....

Just thought I'd throw that out there!!


;)

:eek::eek:

[noesis]

This is my problem with Alex Jones...Firstly, who says he's being threatened? Him.

Secondly, maybe there is a problem with this flu shit. tptb aren't as all knowing as people are making out. I know scientists personally who laugh at me when I even bring up some of the things that get mentioned on here; they don't do it because they're ignorant or programmed; they undertstand these things...Alex Jones is scaring people and proving nothing with his stupid fucking documents and so called "witnesses". I've been waiting all day for a decent piece of evidence from him, all he shows is one email from one person. That one person is nowhere near qualified to judge and make any type of paradigm of what's happenin. The reason tptb might be trying to shut him up is because he's causing panic. I for one agree with them if that's the case; the press are behaving in true right wing Murduch-esque fashion and trying to fuck us all up...Maybe there are people in the gov. who aren't down with this agenda...don't buy into Alex Jones's fear...Give humanity a chance to act by their own free will...Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck the Gov., fuck the press...Let's have some reason on this forum...

I will not back down to anyone on this forum telling me, a) i'm gonna die.

B) we're under martial law (or your country's equivalent.

c) The Illuminati are all powerful and are gonna win...

Fuck it...This flu shit is annoying now...If you all get paranoid, you've already lost...And where the fuck is Icke??? Let's see what he has to say, seeing as it's his forum.

The Illuminati is a group within a group...who's seen Point Break? The Illuminati are surfers! Surfing the endless wave...Their summer is over for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-Fso2EZq8
Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck David Icke, Fuck the CFR, Fuck th Who, Fuck the U.N...HAHA...:D:D:D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTzNLhxPzjo

I dont have anything against Alex Jones but I had to stop listening to him this week because i was starting to buy into the fear, which i think is something we all need to avoid. I refuse to be afraid because that my friends is exactly what they want. So right now I refuse to wash my hands, i refuse to cover my mouth if i cough and i will kiss many many pigs ... :)

[kingmonkey]

I dont have anything against Alex Jones but I had to stop listening to him this week because i was starting to buy into the fear, which i think is something we all need to avoid. I refuse to be afraid because that my friends is exactly what they want. So right now I refuse to wash my hands, i refuse to cover my mouth if i cough and i will kiss many many pigs ... :)

Alex Jones has been going on about about martial law since fucking Waco and Oklahoma. In about 20 years when the world really is fucked, he'll finally be able to say "I told you so".

[dangermouse]

Alex Jones has been going on about about martial law since fucking Waco and Oklahoma. In about 20 years when the world really is fucked, he'll finally be able to say "I told you so".

and he was right .. little by little peoples freedoms were eroded
as icke calls the totalitarian tiptoe

[realy]

and he was right .. little by little peoples freedoms were eroded
as icke calls the totalitarian tiptoe

theres no way to trust that WHO they are claiming only 7 deaths worldwide from swineflu wtf:o is that about?

[freeple]

Hi peeps, how you all doing this fine day?

I wouldn't be worried about getting this flu, your chances of survival are hugely greater than some of the seasonal diseases that go around!

I've just had a nasty bout of flu or similar, got it 3 weeks ago. Only realised two days ago that my mate just came back from Mexico on his honeymoon at the same time. My lungs were seriously f***ed, and still are a little. I've just rested and tried to eat well and starting to feel much better. No pills, no injections, just rest.

I can see the pandemonium being related to the drug manufacturing companies to be honest, absolute genius, (in a scum of the earth kind of way), way of marketing their stock, nothing sells like fear!
The articles showing Tamiflu sales expectations to rise 500%+ for the 2009 fiscal year were also interesting, glad to see some people devote time to unmasking the news in the quest to appease others' minds.

I wouldn't worry about death too much either people, it comes to us all. All you can do is be ready to grab him by the jaffa's and dance your way onto the next plane if there is one.

Hmm, the afterlife. I have absolutely no idea if there is one, guess i'll find out eventually like we all will. I do find some comfort in the nearest scientific research into such things though, I never knew the human brain wasn't capable of doing the things most people think it can do; (breathe,walk,talk,think at same time), well according to our current means of research anyway. I find this link very interesting if your getting worried, the nearest research we have on the subject of death.

http://www.nderf.org/vonlommel_consciousness.htm

So stop worrying people, death, disease, fear, hate - this world/plane of existence is tough and at times, it can be sh**, just grab hold of life with both hands, enjoy yourselves and dont worry......... be happy...........(breaks into little dance) :D

PS: There's a lot of people contesting some blokes teachings, have you not learnt yet that we are all wrong at least some of the time? I'd listen to yourselves a lot more than anyone else, the human mind is so varied that nothing can ever be perceived as true.... one mans truth is another mans lie.

Peace

[beldazar]

That was a lovely first post Freeple, I can feel your calm presense from here.
Yes I do believe all of this is to force vaccinations and tamiflu, Im certainly not afraid of dying anyway.
Im glad you joined us :)

[jiffy]

This is my problem with Alex Jones...Firstly, who says he's being threatened? Him.

Secondly, maybe there is a problem with this flu shit. tptb aren't as all knowing as people are making out. I know scientists personally who laugh at me when I even bring up some of the things that get mentioned on here; they don't do it because they're ignorant or programmed; they undertstand these things...Alex Jones is scaring people and proving nothing with his stupid fucking documents and so called "witnesses". I've been waiting all day for a decent piece of evidence from him, all he shows is one email from one person. That one person is nowhere near qualified to judge and make any type of paradigm of what's happenin. The reason tptb might be trying to shut him up is because he's causing panic. I for one agree with them if that's the case; the press are behaving in true right wing Murduch-esque fashion and trying to fuck us all up...Maybe there are people in the gov. who aren't down with this agenda...don't buy into Alex Jones's fear...Give humanity a chance to act by their own free will...Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck the Gov., fuck the press...Let's have some reason on this forum...

I will not back down to anyone on this forum telling me, a) i'm gonna die.

B) we're under martial law (or your country's equivalent.

c) The Illuminati are all powerful and are gonna win...

Fuck it...This flu shit is annoying now...If you all get paranoid, you've already lost...And where the fuck is Icke??? Let's see what he has to say, seeing as it's his forum.

The Illuminati is a group within a group...who's seen Point Break? The Illuminati are surfers! Surfing the endless wave...Their summer is over for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-Fso2EZq8
Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck David Icke, Fuck the CFR, Fuck th Who, Fuck the U.N...HAHA...:D:D:D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTzNLhxPzjo

I like this post, 2 much swearing, but it had irony, humor and most of all good old common sense and truth.

You ALL would do well to read this a few times;)

[ex sheep]

Swine flu ?
can pigs really fly ?

A flying pig is a symbol of an impossible event coming to pass. The popular saying "[it will happen] when pigs fly" (or when pigs have wings) is traditionally used to mean that the specified event will never ocur.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2712712392_55b93503b8_b.jpg





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[kingmonkey]

I like this post, 2 much swearing, but it had irony, humor and most of all good old common sense and truth.

You ALL would do well to read this a few times;)

Yes, sorry about the language...I had a few drinks last night...It degenerated into a bit of a rant.

[orderoutofchaos]

Heres a question. Why is it no Muslim countrys have reported any cases of swine flu? Could it be down to tha fact that they dont eat pig? It may just be that they are no diagnosing the illness properly though.

Could Swine flu be transmitted by eating pork?

[ap12345]

Could Swine flu be transmitted by eating pork?

How did it get to Israel then?

By the way, Fox are saying you are are going to go to "quaranteen" i.e. "fema camps" if you refuse the vacine.

[steevo]

Heres a question. Why is it no Muslim countrys have reported any cases of swine flu? Could it be down to tha fact that they dont eat pig? It may just be that they are no diagnosing the illness properly though.

Could Swine flu be transmitted by eating pork?

Maybe that's why they call it swine flu - to make us scared to eat pork. We already have problems with most of our food now (bird flu, foot and mouth, mad cow).

I think that it's simply a bio attack by the PTB (whether real or imagined).

[qasrose]

http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/center_for_disease_control.jpg

The Nwo Card game looks like it's coming true..

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_epidemic.jpg

[itsallundercontrol]

Heres a question. Why is it no Muslim countrys have reported any cases of swine flu? Could it be down to tha fact that they dont eat pig? It may just be that they are no diagnosing the illness properly though.

Could Swine flu be transmitted by eating pork?

Hi orderoutofchaos you raise an interesting point and pose an extremely loaded question......

Its too early to say right now so im going to speculate wildly
If this is in fact a bio attack there is of course the possibility that it is genetically altered to affect only certain racial types lets say for example only latin american/white people if this was the case in my opinion this would signal a false flag attack.

Imagine the fear outrage and anger this would cause if most asian muslims were not affected by the virus more than enough to get the general public right back behind the war on terror.Remember a hell of a lot of muslims are also buying into this bs as well especially the disaffected youth in the west the fact that this seems to be a mix of two human flus bird flu and swine flu yet they are still calling it swine flu COULD also have huge political/religious significance.

There are a growing number of people in this country who feel under threat from islam in there own country and overseas and this scenario would push paranoia into overdrive.....

Anyway its just my own thoughts based on no paticular evidence
wild speculation end.:confused:

[ap12345]

Alex Jones Has Said We Are Really At Level 6 Pandemic

This person is being tested in UK for possible person to person transmission.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/5255835/Swine-flu-first-human-transmission-in-Britain-investigated.html

If he tests positive we will officially be at Level 6 based on the WHO specifications of Person to Person Transmission in two regions...

[darkovic]

It's a bio weapon that targets a gene of Spanish (possibly moorish) origin.

It's spreading in Mexico, the people are "hispanic" due to Spanish colonisation.

If moorish then no wonder Egypt a north african country is killing all it's pigs.

It's also spreading from person to person in Spain.

PNAC... "...advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

They didn't make that up you know...

[darkovic]

How did it get to Israel then?

By the way, Fox are saying you are are going to go to "quaranteen" i.e. "fema camps" if you refuse the vacine.

What? Even IF that was the only way of transmission (VERY unlikely) there are more than Jews and Muslims in Israel you know.

And don't say pork is banned there because I ate a ham and pineapple pizza in Haifa.

[cornilouse]

Israel renames unkosher swine flu
Yakov Litzman
Litzman is one of eight ultra-Orthodox members of the government team

Israeli Health Minister Yakov Litzman has been updating a nervous public on the swine flu epidemic - and he started by renaming it for religious reasons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8021301.stm

[cornilouse]

swine flu not kosher - i nearly pissed myself :D:):D

[ap12345]

What? Even IF that was the only way of transmission (VERY unlikely) there are more than Jews and Muslims in Israel you know.

And don't say pork is banned there because I ate a ham and pineapple pizza in Haifa.

I never said Pork was banned, I was replying to someone who said there were no outbreaks in muslim countries where they don't eat pork, I was just pointing out that there have been outbreaks in Israel where they also (generally) don't eat pork. I don't think its spread through eating pork.

[keithm]

First celebrity comfirmed death from swine flu

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/lhjunkie/kermit-the-frog-is-dead.jpg

[burnttoast]

First celebrity comfirmed death from swine flu

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/lhjunkie/kermit-the-frog-is-dead.jpg

Not surprising....he was known to be intimate with a pig.;)

[gilly]

Oh no, not Kermit - the bastards! :eek:

[steevo]

How can you be humourous at a time like this:rolleyes: You make me sick!















;):D lmao

[darkovic]

I never said Pork was banned,

I never said you did. I merely pre-empted a possible reply based on your other post, which seemed quite silly to me when I read it, so I took you for a silly person. Sorry if I was wrong but...

[qeutey]

Just announced "2 week until vaccine ready" :eek: Yesterday it was 6 months away :rolleyes:

However it will still take time to make large quantities.

[dude111]

How can you be humourous at a time like this:rolleyes: You make me sick! I also fail to see HUMOUR in this horrible matter!

[qeutey]

I also fail to see HUMOUR in this horrible matter!

It's so not funny it makes me pig sick.

[jiffy]

It's so not funny it makes me pig sick.

Don't laugh....

I ran the Swine flu help line....all I got was crackling:D

[qeutey]

Don't laugh....

I ran the Swine flu help line....all I got was crackling:D

Not that one again... what a sowprise.

[nayan]

Just announced "2 week until vaccine ready" :eek: Yesterday it was 6 months away :rolleyes:

However it will still take time to make large quantities.

I will never take any kind of vaccine, or any kind of drug that the gorvenment is supplying, even if my parents say so! Hey, they're known to cure the swine flu, but who knows what that can do to us, imagine the side effects. Come on people, it's from the 'gorvenment', we all know it's a conspiracy.

"I believe that truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality"

[hey_jude]

Originally Posted by qeutey
Just announced "2 week until vaccine ready" Yesterday it was 6 months away

However it will still take time to make large quantities.

Who announced this?

I certainly wouldn't take the vaccine (tamiflu or other), this is so out of proportion!
No death of this "flu" is taken lightly, but it is still a tiny fraction of the world population affected... so why the panic?

[chicheley]

Hi
As of 06.00hrs GMT 1 May update No 7 331 cases worldwide, 9 deaths in
Mexico and 1 death in USA. WHO website.

Chris

[orderoutofchaos]

Apparently WHO officials in Mexico have a backlog of 35,000 samples waiting to be tested, that means there is a potential for 35,000 to be infected. Not saying i believe any of this, just putting the information out there.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCq75QoLBuDo&refer=home

[orderoutofchaos]

A US health monitor has also accused the WHO and CDC of ignoring thier warnings about the flu epidemic.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=93254&sectionid=3510203

Notice the weird picture of crucified Jesus, why thats their i have no idea

[phemohilia]

Not weird at all, the caption to the photo says it's the grave of the first victim to die of the swine flu in Mexico.....

[macmauro]

I'm kind of starting to be worried, why:

-It's absolutely obvious that MSM is lying, just look at the example today when the Scottish Minister told that the result of the human-to-human transmission would probably not be available during the weekend, and minutes after that, Sky had the headline confirming the infection, and the guy on the phone, and ten minutes after a new press conference of the same minister to confirm that - very weird..

-The Scottish couple enter their house totally covered running (why??) with jackets, why? their picture is already public, their PR is (oh no..) Max Clifford??

-Several people has noted: during the press conferences in the tv the reporters (from the studio) interrupt at the crucial moments, in america the main chains dont even show anymore those conferences, yesterday during the EU health commission conference there was one guy saying (i heard it!):when the time comes to cut the power in the power stations, because the employees are ill(or something very similar) the BBC just cut the transmission and move to another subject?

-I'm probably paranoid, but seems to me that all these officials (their body language, their huuum haaa) are in panic?

-If, and that's just an if, this was a distraction, i would expect them to be a little more coordinated, really that's doesn't seems the case to me, i think they have something out of control

-In another forum i read something today:this guy has his brother that work in the Australian( i think it's a state parlament) parlament (he works there, not a polititian ok?) and they have this room that they call the war room, well this guy says that that room was never used from 10 years, and now they are using it, militarys also there, and people very frantic, he ask his boss what? and the boss just told him to go on with his work and don't even think to ask questions

-Don't slame me please, i'm just as worried as you and i'm trying the best that i can to figure out the answers, but i'm considering the possibility that this can be one that TPTB didn't do it, hence their panic...

[ap12345]

Its become clear to me that this is one of two things based on what we have seen from the media and governments.

This is either

A: a total hoax of monumental proportions.

Or

B: Super deadly and being totally censored by the media.

I'm leaning towards the first.

[theuselesseater]

I'm kind of starting to be worried, why:

-It's absolutely obvious that MSM is lying, just look at the example today when the Scottish Minister told that the result of the human-to-human transmission would probably not be available during the weekend, and minutes after that, Sky had the headline confirming the infection, and the guy on the phone, and ten minutes after a new press conference of the same minister to confirm that - very weird..

-The Scottish couple enter their house totally covered running (why??) with jackets, why? their picture is already public, their PR is (oh no..) Max Clifford??

-Several people has noted: during the press conferences in the tv the reporters (from the studio) interrupt at the crucial moments, in america the main chains dont even show anymore those conferences, yesterday during the EU health commission conference there was one guy saying (i heard it!):when the time comes to cut the power in the power stations, because the employees are ill(or something very similar) the BBC just cut the transmission and move to another subject?

-I'm probably paranoid, but seems to me that all these officials (their body language, their huuum haaa) are in panic?

-If, and that's just an if, this was a distraction, i would expect them to be a little more coordinated, really that's doesn't seems the case to me, i think they have something out of control

-In another forum i read something today:this guy has his brother that work in the Australian( i think it's a state parlament) parlament (he works there, not a polititian ok?) and they have this room that they call the war room, well this guy says that that room was never used from 10 years, and now they are using it, militarys also there, and people very frantic, he ask his boss what? and the boss just told him to go on with his work and don't even think to ask questions

-Don't slame me please, i'm just as worried as you and i'm trying the best that i can to figure out the answers, but i'm considering the possibility that this can be one that TPTB didn't do it, hence their panic...

I am almost with ya buddy....

The only thing I disagree with you is that it's not a release on purpose. The lower levels in goverments Health people would not be privy to that info anyway.

I may be completely wrong, but I now am of the opinion that this is a real virus, furthermore I think that we could start to see a lot more deaths from it within the next week.

I would not be at all surprised if WHO officially call it pandemic (level 6) by the end of the weekend TBH.

I should add that the media have hyped it, which is what they always do.

I think a point to remember is that the media are included in flu pandemic plans worldwide to distribute information to the public that they are told to.

Dont just believe everything you hear, check the facts for yourself is the watchword.

TUE - Jason

[dude111]

This is either

A: a total hoax of monumental proportions.

Or

B: Super deadly and being totally censored by the media.

I'm leaning towards the first.I would also say "A"

They are mainly trying to scare the world into this and "The need for a vaccine" that they dont need.... (Its population control and THIS IS VERY SCARY AND WE ALL HAVE TO BE ALERT AND THERE FOR EACH OTHER (ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL "ASLEEP" TO THE EVILNESS))

[agape_force]

My university here in Australia offered flu shots for $10 a few days ago (via e-mail).

[kingmonkey]

My university here in Australia offered flu shots for $10 a few days ago (via e-mail).


Flu shots? They won't even work, they'll be for a different strain. Strange...

[dallas18]

My university here in Australia offered flu shots for $10 a few days ago (via e-mail).

same $19 here in brissy for flu vaccination which they said in their mailout to all students of the swine flu pandemic

[drhemp]

Anyone remember this email from back in 2006?

Subject: BIRD FLU - US PROPAGANDA!

"Bird Flu"

Do you know that 'bird flu' was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?

Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?

Do you know that it was the Americans who alerted us to the efficacy of the human antiviral TAMIFLU as a preventative.

Do you know that TAMIFLU barely alleviates some symptoms of the common flu?

Do you know that its efficacy against the common flu is questioned by a great part of the scientific community?

Do you know that against a SUPPOSED mutant virus such as H5N1, TAMIFLU barely alleviates the illness?

Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?

Do you know who markets TAMIFLU?

ROCHE LABORATORIES.

Do you know who bought the patent for TAMIFLU from ROCHE LABORATORIES in 1996?

GILEAD SCIENCES INC.

Do you know who was the then president of GILEAD SCIENCES INC. and remains a major shareholder?

DONALD RUMSFELD, the present Secretary of Defence of the USA.

Do you know that the base of TAMIFLU is crushed aniseed?

Do you know who controls 90% of the world's production of this tree?

ROCHE.

Do you know that sales of TAMIFLU were over $254 million in 2004 and more than $1000 million in 2005?

Do you know how many more millions ROCHE can earn in the coming months if the business of fear continues?

So the summary of the story is as follows:

Bush's friends decide that the medicine TAMIFLU is the solution for a pandemic that has not yet occurred and that has caused a hundred deaths worldwide in 9 years.

This medicine doesn't so much as cure the common flu.

In normal conditions the virus does not affect humans.

Rumsfeld sells the patent for TAMIFLU to ROCHE for which they pay him a fortune. Roche acquires 90% of the global production of crushed aniseed, the base for the antivirus.

The governments of the entire world threaten a pandemic and then buy industrial quantities of the product from Roche.

So we end up paying for medicine while Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush get richer, thank the RED STATES!

http://www.canedintotnes.co.uk/images/twr/674-swine-flu-sm.jpg

[dangermouse]

Anyone remember this email from back in 2006?



http://www.canedintotnes.co.uk/images/twr/674-swine-flu-sm.jpg

lol :D

[orderoutofchaos]

I pulled the off the the Abovetopsecret site.

confirms 141 cases of swine flu in 19 states in U.S., according to the agency's Web site. Quote

28 April there were 99 confirmed cases
29 April there were 154 confirmed cases
Yesterday 30 April there were 212 confirmed cases.
Today 1 May there are 478 confirmed cases
Source:
www.news.bbc.co.uk

EXPONENTIAL GROWTH:
99 to 154 (growth 1.55)
154 to 212 (growth 1.376)
212 to 478(growth 2.254)
Lets assume that growth remains constant at an average of those growth figures (1.822)
That means 2 May expected confirmed cases will be 871
3 May 1566
4 May 2850
5 May 5187
6 May 9440
7 May 17,180
8 May 31,267
9 May 56,907
10 May 103,570
I'll let you do the rest of the math
for later periods.

This is an exponential growth rate - as are most disease spreads until the disease wanes or until the population is immune or dead.
No, this isn't WWIII nuclear war type doom where its all over in 3 hours. No not even a 9-11 terrorist attack, over in about a day.

Pandemics and Epidemics start off slowly, and gain momentum and speed as time progresses.

By May tenth over one hundred thousand cases (based on confirmed cases only) can be expected. If this is a non stop 100% communicable disease, then by 20 May we could be looking at 41,300,109 cases in the US alone! Yes you read that correctly 41 million.

Do the math.

[cafetimes1991]

Ouch. Good post, orderoutofchaos. Must remember to visit ats again also.
And 500 posts for you! Woo!

[cafetimes1991]

http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/comics/00000263.png

[cafetimes1991]

I pulled the off the the Abovetopsecret site.

confirms 141 cases of swine flu in 19 states in U.S., according to the agency's Web site. Quote

28 April there were 99 confirmed cases
29 April there were 154 confirmed cases
Yesterday 30 April there were 212 confirmed cases.
Today 1 May there are 478 confirmed cases
Source:
www.news.bbc.co.uk

EXPONENTIAL GROWTH:
99 to 154 (growth 1.55)
154 to 212 (growth 1.376)
212 to 478(growth 2.254)
Lets assume that growth remains constant at an average of those growth figures (1.822)
That means 2 May expected confirmed cases will be 871
3 May 1566
4 May 2850
5 May 5187
6 May 9440
7 May 17,180
8 May 31,267
9 May 56,907
10 May 103,570
I'll let you do the rest of the math
for later periods.

This is an exponential growth rate - as are most disease spreads until the disease wanes or until the population is immune or dead.
No, this isn't WWIII nuclear war type doom where its all over in 3 hours. No not even a 9-11 terrorist attack, over in about a day.

Pandemics and Epidemics start off slowly, and gain momentum and speed as time progresses.

By May tenth over one hundred thousand cases (based on confirmed cases only) can be expected. If this is a non stop 100% communicable disease, then by 20 May we could be looking at 41,300,109 cases in the US alone! Yes you read that correctly 41 million.

Do the math.


Here's the rest of that abovetopsecret thread: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread459892/pg1

[jiffy]

I pulled the off the the Abovetopsecret site.

confirms 141 cases of swine flu in 19 states in U.S., according to the agency's Web site. Quote

28 April there were 99 confirmed cases
29 April there were 154 confirmed cases
Yesterday 30 April there were 212 confirmed cases.
Today 1 May there are 478 confirmed cases
Source:
www.news.bbc.co.uk

EXPONENTIAL GROWTH:
99 to 154 (growth 1.55)
154 to 212 (growth 1.376)
212 to 478(growth 2.254)
Lets assume that growth remains constant at an average of those growth figures (1.822)
That means 2 May expected confirmed cases will be 871
3 May 1566
4 May 2850
5 May 5187
6 May 9440
7 May 17,180
8 May 31,267
9 May 56,907
10 May 103,570
I'll let you do the rest of the math
for later periods.

This is an exponential growth rate - as are most disease spreads until the disease wanes or until the population is immune or dead.
No, this isn't WWIII nuclear war type doom where its all over in 3 hours. No not even a 9-11 terrorist attack, over in about a day.

Pandemics and Epidemics start off slowly, and gain momentum and speed as time progresses.

By May tenth over one hundred thousand cases (based on confirmed cases only) can be expected. If this is a non stop 100% communicable disease, then by 20 May we could be looking at 41,300,109 cases in the US alone! Yes you read that correctly 41 million.

Do the math.


More fear mongering bolloxs....do the maths:rolleyes:

Yeah so no virus in history has ever had 100% clinical attack rate!!!!!

If this pratt wants to do the "math" then I would suggest he take note that the out brake started in the most densely populated city in the world, with a populous of over 20 millions, it has had the virus for over a week now and how many people have been confirmed in that time.

This is no more then a Seasonal Flu and will die out because of it's weak strain and warmer weather.

I have to say it is all getting rather boring now......still some people have a car crash mentality......which I personally find rather sick:mad:

[orderoutofchaos]

More fear mongering bolloxs....do the maths:rolleyes:

Yeah so no virus in history has ever had 100% clinical attack rate!!!!!

If this pratt wants to do the "math" then I would suggest he take note that the out brake started in the most densely populated city in the world, with a populous of over 20 millions, it has had the virus for over a week now and how many people have been confirmed in that time.

This is no more then a Seasonal Flu and will die out because of it's weak strain and warmer weather.

I have to say it is all getting rather boring now......still some people have a car crash mentality......which I personally find rather sick:mad:

I wouldnt become too complacent. His figures are genuine, pandemics start off slow, as did the 1918 pandemic. Dont forget there is a huge number of backlogged cases, 300 in the UK alone

[jiffy]

I wouldnt become too complacent. His figures are genuine, pandemics start off slow, as did the 1918 pandemic.


Erm there not genuine, you can't have 100% clinical attack rate, if you look at the DNA makeup of this virus it is nothing like "Spanish flu" hence why the guy that caught it is on TV tonight talking to the camera perfectly fine.

Christ I have had a cold make me feel like shit longer then that guy!:rolleyes:

[orderoutofchaos]

Erm there not genuine, you can't have 100% clinical attack rate, if you look at the DNA makeup of this virus it is nothing like "Spanish flu" hence why the guy that caught it is on TV tonight talking to the camera perfectly fine.

Christ I have had a cold make me feel like shit longer then that guy!:rolleyes:

These projections are realistic :

EXPONENTIAL GROWTH:
99 to 154 (growth 1.55)
154 to 212 (growth 1.376)
212 to 478(growth 2.254)
Lets assume that growth remains constant at an average of those growth figures (1.822)
That means 2 May expected confirmed cases will be 871
3 May 1566
4 May 2850
5 May 5187
6 May 9440
7 May 17,180
8 May 31,267
9 May 56,907
10 May 103,570
I'll let you do the rest of the math
for later periods.

[orderoutofchaos]

Erm there not genuine, you can't have 100% clinical attack rate, if you look at the DNA makeup of this virus it is nothing like "Spanish flu" hence why the guy that caught it is on TV tonight talking to the camera perfectly fine.

Christ I have had a cold make me feel like shit longer then that guy!:rolleyes:

Only 2% of those who contracted it, died from the Spanish flu.

[jiffy]

These projections are realistic :

EXPONENTIAL GROWTH:
99 to 154 (growth 1.55)
154 to 212 (growth 1.376)
212 to 478(growth 2.254)
Lets assume that growth remains constant at an average of those growth figures (1.822)
That means 2 May expected confirmed cases will be 871
3 May 1566
4 May 2850
5 May 5187
6 May 9440
7 May 17,180
8 May 31,267
9 May 56,907
10 May 103,570
I'll let you do the rest of the math
for later periods.


If this is a non stop 100% communicable disease,
[/B]


Yeah so no virus in history has ever had 100% clinical attack rate!!!!!

[jiffy]

Only 2% of those who contracted it, died from the Spanish flu.


It also had 20% clinical attack rate, which this has nowhere near that, it makeup just isn't as viral. This has been confirmed in Main stream medical papers.

No matter how hard you try to car crash it....it all over, pull ya pants up;)

[jiffy]

Anyway arguing about how many people contract it is of no consequence, it is the mortality rate that matters.
That can't be argued. It is as low as any seasonal flu. In fact watching the guy on TV I would say it is less potent than seasonal flu.

Monday, High Temperature, fever
Tuesday, Saw throat
Wednesday, Runny nose
Thursday, Runny nose
Friday fine

Hardly life threatening, to able bodied well people:rolleyes:

[pdcdp]

those projections were quite thoroughly disproved on the original ATS thread (as i remember...)

why keep pushing it? your numbers are already way over any reported elsewhere, not that they're to be trusted either way anyway....

[kingmonkey]

Anyway arguing about how many people contract it is of no consequence, it is the mortality rate that matters.
That can't be argued. It is as low as any seasonal flu. In fact watching the guy on TV I would say it is less potent than seasonal flu.




I'd go a step further and say it's lower that seasonal flu mortality rates...But by all means, carry on living in fear and listening to Alex Jones etc.

So much for the de-population scam...It's either not happenin' or it's a big fat http://www.changetowin.org/connect/images/fail.jpg

[orderoutofchaos]

Yeah so no virus in history has ever had 100% clinical attack rate!!!!!
I agree with that, the rest is accurrate

[orderoutofchaos]

Anyway arguing about how many people contract it is of no consequence, it is the mortality rate that matters.
That can't be argued. It is as low as any seasonal flu. In fact watching the guy on TV I would say it is less potent than seasonal flu.

Monday, High Temperature, fever
Tuesday, Saw throat
Wednesday, Runny nose
Thursday, Runny nose
Friday fine

Hardly life threatening, to able bodied well people:rolleyes:

You dont get it. It may not be potent now, but this strain will continue to change, it could change into a more dangerous strain. No one really knows what this virus is doing at the moment.

BTW, it is life threatening, 19 deaths so far. I am not trying to spin this up but we cant be complacent we must not let our own suspicions about its origin and purpose get in the way.

The fact is that we dont know enough about this as to be so confident in our assumptions.

[lordzoma]

Not surprising....he was known to be intimate with a pig.;)

Funniest joke of the month.

[skunksmash]

Thanks for the invite anyone else want to go for the ride.:D
I will join later today when I have more time :D

well.... i have to thank ''EX-SHEEP'' for coming over to my vista forums & giving the sheep what for......great post mate :D:D, keep it up.....


just to give you all an idea of how anal they are ....a poll was started there

''who believes in the Illuminati & one world government''

6 for yes...

11,639 for no.....

:rolleyes:



:)SK

[ex sheep]

well.... i have to thank ''EX-SHEEP'' for coming over to my vista forums & giving the sheep what for......great post mate :D:D, keep it up.....


just to give you all an idea of how anal they are ....a poll was started there

''who believes in the Illuminati & one world government''

6 for yes...

11,639 for no.....

:rolleyes:



:)SK

Yes its a busy forum, and there were only 5 votes before I added mine:eek:

but something has just hit me,

We are always wondering what we can do to give people an alternative view,

and we should be doing what your doing skunksmash, posting information on other forums, you are helping the cause :cool:
We all like posting here, why not do it on other forums ;)

[ownoiz]

We all like posting here, why not do it on other forums ;)

Great idea in theory...im all for it because lets face it, most of us here are already sold...

So we should all be doing this if possible...

But unfortunately, many other forums with a lot of potential will ultimately not allow you to post anything that question MSM / MSM programming, Financial reserves/Money as Debt/Bankers, false flags, cover ups, psy ops, representative 2 party "democracys" etc

Moderators often delete posts and or ban you...under the guise of "off topic" or "off topic rant" ...other users will complain to mods, or the mods are freakmasons, or both, or high levels of denial, or the forum may have sponsers who are attempting to sell us crap we dont need, so get pissed and complain.

But when you find a forum where you can "get away with it" ...have the time to defend against trolls and are thick skinned, as many will label you http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.ls1tech.com/get/forums/images/smilies2/crazy.gif...and it can get to you sometimes...then let it rip people...start off slow and sneaky...plant some seeds with a comment and link here and there and dont force...

I was showed one forum where someone i know (with the unexpected help of a little backup from closet truthers members) turned the whole place into a rockefeller, rothschild and GE conversations...with lots of humor to plant a more serious seed...before being banned of course... but im sure they sent quite a few peeps on the beginning of their journey...

Anyway now im getting into http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.ls1tech.com/get/forums/images/smilies3/offtopic.gif

So, anyway, back OT...who here has had their Tamiflu http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.ls1tech.com/get/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_chug.gif

Oh and Mexicos power people...thats what you get for not fully supporting the US "war on drugs" ...touristes no more...bit like India...there i go ranting jibberish again http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.ls1tech.com/get/forums/images/smilies2/crazy.gif

So many reasons...they always know how to kill a dozen birds with one stone...or is that pigs...pigs flying backwards...
.
__________________
"Mall people they come and go, small people they just dont know" - Anna Faris

[smoke n mirrors]

There is always merit in planting seeds. We really need to bring some organisation to the game. We need a list on here of Primary Target sites over a period of time members from here could join...only make a few regular looking post at random at first.

Never mention reptiles, Illuminati, Freemasons etc in your posts just use Them, They or TPTB and government etc. Let them discover for themselves what these entities are. Telling someone what to think will never, have the power self determination.

We need to up our game!

When a major issue is happening, we need a focused argument that is marginal but clearly plants a seed of doubt.

We should avoid, getting drawn into arguments and just continually drip hints for people to pick up on.

We need links to information that explain in simple general terms, what the underlying NWO agenda truly is. Avoiding all the numbers, satanic and religious over tones. This stuff freaks people out and empowers them to label you a NUT JOB! The only winners are TPTB.

There are lots of people on the verge of waking up and we really need to capitalize on it. It wont last forever!

My two pennies.

PS its a great idea skunksmash and ex sheep why not add it to the "what can we do" thread.

[drhemp]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SWINE FLU!

IT IS THE FLU. End of. Normal flu.

Every year 60K to 100K people die of pneumonia. Now some of these people are marked as pig flu. They just do it to raise panic, sway attention and purchase "vaccines".

The virus is just a mutation of the flu virus. So whats the big deal? There are new strains every year, it mutates by itself, it's totally normal, but every X years they mark it as "potentially deadly".

Pigs and humans are different biologically. A virus from pigs to humans is totally impossible. Just like from bird to human or from bird to pig.

All that has happened here is that the US govt picked once more a random country and a random animal to sway peoples attention then they picked one of the newer strains of the common "Fuckingitish Fluitis" and they marked it as deadly, even though its not.

They didn't have to release the disease, it was already there and it's COMMON FLU. People DIE of common flu, but they aren't in the news.

There are new strains every year, perhaps every month.

Say 1 billion people are infected with flu every season. 1/100 of those people might get pneumonia and some of them might die. Here is the pandemic. It's flu, normal standard flu. Normally these people are just for the surveys, now they are for the survey and the news as well.

They do this for many reasons, such as to sell Tamiflu that will expire in 3 months and sway attention from the investigations towards Bush that started 1 month ago. They are covering it up. It's a pandemic like standard flu is. The only people who will die of it are the people that would die of normal pneumonia.

All Tamiflu will do is stimulate the immune reaction against general influenza viruses (and weakening your own immune system), maybe consider taking it if you get the flu when you are over 90?

Did anyone get the flu last winter? That could have been the terrible killer flu. It's normal flu, once people have the antibodies for it, it will not affect anyone.

2 things that you can sell to make money are power and beauty and one thing to take the money from people with force is death.

SO DON'T PANIC, IT'S NORMAL FLU!

http://www.canedintotnes.co.uk/images/chris/swine_flu_dick_cheney.jpg

[tyler]

You are on the right track, Doctor!

It's the vaccines they want to push. Soon they will be mandatory and then they can kill us all off like they did with aids in Africa.
Don't accept a vaccine and don't have your daughters vaccinated with gardasil. Teach them some morality instead.

They don't want everybody catching diseases. Their own people can catch air borne infections and they don't want that. Let's see how many police and politicians are vaccinated. Blair still hasn't told us if his children received MMR.
They still need key workers for power, sewage, police, army,etc.

They will use vaccines to reduce the population.

[white horse]

There is always merit in planting seeds. We really need to bring some organisation to the game. We need a list on here of Primary Target sites over a period of time members from here could join...only make a few regular looking post at random at first.

Never mention reptiles, Illuminati, Freemasons etc in your posts just use Them, They or TPTB and government etc. Let them discover for themselves what these entities are. Telling someone what to think will never, have the power self determination.

We need to up our game!

When a major issue is happening, we need a focused argument that is marginal but clearly plants a seed of doubt.

We should avoid, getting drawn into arguments and just continually drip hints for people to pick up on.

We need links to information that explain in simple general terms, what the underlying NWO agenda truly is. Avoiding all the numbers, satanic and religious over tones. This stuff freaks people out and empowers them to label you a NUT JOB! The only winners are TPTB.

There are lots of people on the verge of waking up and we really need to capitalize on it. It wont last forever!

My two pennies.

PS its a great idea skunksmash and ex sheep why not add it to the "what can we do" thread.

Tech forums I think are a good ground, as they tend to have a lot of people who are more independant thinking, and also lots of kids. (As opposed to for instance a Britains Got Talent Forum, or the Daily Mail forum where you will not have much sucess! )

Hey smoke n mirros - liking the posts. Why don't some of us go to tech forums with this kind of thing and try to get it spread and also get further technical help and advice on it?

Its all in the preparation. Download ubuntu server or wamp or xamp.

Set your wireless up for open public access no security and hang your arse in the breeze.

Create a new partition and install whats requires and then boot up your personal web server. You could always use some old machine for the server.

Get a copy of joomla from joomla.org to build a website easy way to go. Very little knowledge required for an out of the box installation.

Add the info you have to your site bingo, a public access infrastructure is born.

Obviously take security measures to protect private data as well as your site!

xamp and wamp need to be opened for public access (put online) blar blar.

I'm no tech guy so hopefully one of the techs, on here can explain better than me, if people want to know more.

[skunksmash]

here's another tech forum im a member of...... ive also been trying to spread what i believes happening over here, ive been infracted here after getting into a debate with a mod about quantum theory & the possibility of stargates....

he has even deleted some of my posts from the ''flu'' threads as i supplied compelling DATA from here & they just have no comeback except...''stop or be banned'' but tbh getting banned should be the least of our worries.... ;)

so sign up & help me out.....:D, the irony is a lot of the members would like to hear more i reckon....

here's the ''flu'' thread... (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/499566-pandemic-what-would-happen-next.html)

& global warming.. (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/498944-global-warming.html)

& ''do you think they have cures'' (http://www.overclock.net/rants-raves/500077-do-you-think-there-cures.html)

i think ive posted in all of these, & been very alone....lol, jump in & spread the word.....




:)SK

[jiffy]

I agree with that, the rest is accurrate


Erm you don't appear to understand the very figure you are peddling. The figures quoted are based on 100% clinical uptake
HIS OWN WORDS

As for it mutating to a more dangerous virus, this isn't possible to ever mutate on it's own to a "Spanish flu" type virus as it's core structure is completely different.

I would suggest you read Medical material NOT MEDIA NONSENSE, RATHER LIKE GLOBAL WARMING< READ THE SCIENCE NOT THE PROPAGANDA!!!!

[white horse]

here's another tech forum im a member of...... ive also been trying to spread what i believes happening over here, ive been infracted here after getting into a debate with a mod about quantum theory & the possibility of stargates....

he has even deleted some of my posts from the ''flu'' threads as i supplied compelling DATA from here & they just have no comeback except...''stop or be banned'' but tbh getting banned should be the least of our worries.... ;)

so sign up & help me out.....:D, the irony is a lot of the members would like to hear more i reckon....

here's the ''flu'' thread... (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/499566-pandemic-what-would-happen-next.html)

& global warming.. (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/498944-global-warming.html)

& ''do you think they have cures'' (http://www.overclock.net/rants-raves/500077-do-you-think-there-cures.html)

i think ive posted in all of these, & been very alone....lol, jump in & spread the word.....




:)SK

just joined up... :cool:

[smoke n mirrors]

just joined up... :cool:

On my way.

Just one thing...if you click on the link in the davidicke.com posts, the logs on the site server, you visit will show the host you came from.

In my opinion, it would be better to cut and paste the link in to your browser, that way no host is given when you land on the site. ;)

PS Thanks for the encouragement white horse. (Nice Arab by the way)

[chicheley]

Outbrek in a school in london, closed for seven days, so where are the pupils going over these days, stay at home? think not. I expect they will be out and about visiting shops and supermarkets, friends from other schools! It didn't say on the BBC news that the parents had been advised to keep them indoors.

I tried to telephone my local health authority to find out what I should do in the event of an outbreak in my area, I couldn't get through ,all I got was crackling.

[itsallundercontrol]

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/15/6/pdfs/08-1196.pdf

Some good 'official' info and links here

[weareinfinitelove]

gosh, i fly back to texas via heathrow in 2weeks to rejoin my cruise-ship where i work as a dancer. We usually dock in mexico every friday but have changed the itinary for the time being.
It seems stupid to jump into a contained vessel, and mix myself with a few thousand texans on a weekly basis whilst this is going on...
hmm

[jiffy]

gosh, i fly back to texas via heathrow in 2weeks to rejoin my cruise-ship where i work as a dancer. We usually dock in mexico every friday but have changed the itinary for the time being.
It seems stupid to jump into a contained vessel, and mix myself with a few thousand texans on a weekly basis whilst this is going on...
hmm

Argggggg a ship full of Texan's........I would see Swine flu as a release ;)

Looking at the guy that caught it here (UK), you have nothing to fear. he was speaking to the camera's as you and I would after 6 days:D

You are fit as you dance, eat well, love, be happy, and don't worry, trust me you will stay healthy;)

[ap12345]

gosh, i fly back to texas via heathrow in 2weeks to rejoin my cruise-ship where i work as a dancer. We usually dock in mexico every friday but have changed the itinary for the time being.
It seems stupid to jump into a contained vessel, and mix myself with a few thousand texans on a weekly basis whilst this is going on...
hmm

I wouldn't worry, its all a big hoax, the MSM have admitted its no different than standard flu. They will be raising pandemic alert levels to level 5 and 6 for every outbreak of the common cold soon.

Its just a new version of the terrorism fear mongering, now we have destroyed that weapon they used by exposing 911.

I can't believe i bought into their propaganda campaign by buying into the fear...

[jiffy]

Swine flu 'in decline' in Mexico


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8031761.stm


Swine flu in Mexico, the epicentre of the world outbreak, has peaked, the Mexican health minister has said.

Jose Angel Cordova said the virus, blamed for at least 19 deaths in Mexico, appeared to have peaked between 23-28 April.

"The evolution of the epidemic is now in its declining phase," Mr Cordova told a news conference.

World Health Organization officials said authorities should remain vigilant as the virus could return.

Asked about Mr Cordova's comments, WHO official Gregory Hartl said the current "round of activity" could have peaked.

But he added: "We cannot lower our guard. There is a high possibility that this virus will come back, especially in colder periods."

'Pork safe'

The WHO says it has found swine flu in 787 people in 17 countries, while collated national figures give a tally of more than 800.

Person-to-person transmission has been confirmed in six countries.

In Mexico, just over 100 people are thought to have died from the virus, though only 19 cases have been confirmed.

The first cases surfaced at the end of the northern hemisphere's winter flu season, and experts fear that infections could accelerate in the autumn.

WHO food safety scientist Peter Ben Embarek said increased surveillance was necessary after the virus was found to have infected pigs in Canada.

But he said there was no recommendation to cull animals, and pork remained safe to eat.

"From a consumer point of view there is no risk from consuming cooked pork products," he said.

The herd of pigs in the western Canadian province of Alberta was apparently infected by a farm worker who recently returned from Mexico.

Mr Ben Embarek said the infection of the pigs was not a surprise and that both the animals and the worker were recovering.

In Egypt, the government moved to cull all the country's pigs following the swine flu outbreak.

There have been no cases of swine flu in Egypt, and the decision triggered protests from Coptic Christian pig farmers.

Meanwhile the US Centers of Disease Control and Prevention said the number of confirmed cases in the United States had risen from 160 to 226.

US health officials interviewed on Sunday TV talk shows said the flu outbreak appeared not to be as dangerous as they initially thought.

[drhemp]

Swine flu 'in decline' in Mexico

In Egypt, the government moved to cull all the country's pigs following the swine flu outbreak.

FFS a virus CANNOT be transmitted from pig to human!

When will these lies end?

[white horse]

FFS a virus CANNOT be transmitted from pig to human!


Unless it's engineered to do so?

[burnttoast]

US health officials interviewed on Sunday TV talk shows said the flu outbreak appeared not to be as dangerous as they initially thought.

Oh look here....they seemed to have made a mistake then?...I'm sure heads will roll en masse as a result of the panic spread through their errors eh?...yeah right.

And these are the same idiots the "sheople" will gladly roll up the sleeves of their children arms, only to have aborted fetus parts and mercury jammed into, no questions asked.....feel like I'm in a bad episode of the "Twilight Zone" when reading shite like this..honest to Christ.

[drhemp]

Unless it's engineered to do so?

There's no need to engineer it, as the sheeple are gullible enough to believe an outbreak of normal flu is swine flu and the compliant media are more than willing to perpetrate this lie without question.

What can happen is that on 100 million copies of the virus 1 or 2 could in theory pair up with human cells.

This is an outbreak of normal flu. There is no such thing as swine flu.

[pri01]

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/updates/en/index.html

I don't know if there is a definate pattern with the numbers published, but they don't make sense to me. Surely, spread of any illness would be more rapid than is shown here?

Update Number) (Numbers Reported) Countries Affected:
11) (787) 17
10) (658) 16
9) (615) 15
8.1) (367) 13
7) (331) 11
6) (257) 11
5) (148) 9
4) (64) 7
3) (40) 4
2) (20) 2

The biggest leap in numbers reported appear to be between update number 8.1 and update 9

[white horse]

Hmmmm... dunno... got a bad feeling about this.

Although I don't think Swine flu is 'the one', I think we will see a biggy in a couple of year's time; however Swine FLu may be a dry run to see how a city behaves during martial law lock down and copes with a real emergency; possibly copes with large numbers of dead.

It will probably die down for a bit, then I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it take off rapidly again...

[keithm]

Combined HIV(AIDS)/H1N1 flu? From Reuters!
Quote

Now this is some scary stuff. An airborne version of AIDS? I can't think of more doom than this.

[link to www.alertnet.org]

HIV patients at higher risk from flu, WHO says
02 May 2009 11:53:21 GMT
* WHO fears complications if HIV and H1N1 viruses combine
By Laura MacInnis

GENEVA, May 2 (Reuters) - People with HIV are at high risk from the new flu strain that the World Health Organisation said is on the verge of a pandemic, the WHO said on Saturday.

The United Nations agency said people with immunodeficiency diseases -- including the AIDS virus -- will most likely be vulnerable to health complications from the H1N1 strain, as they are from regular seasonal flu, which kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people a year.

HIV and the new flu strain could also mix together in a dangerous way, as has occurred with HIV and tuberculosis, the WHO said in guidance for health workers on its website.


"Although there are inadequate data to predict the impact of a possible human influenza pandemic on HIV-affected populations, interactions between HIV/AIDS and A(H1N1) influenza could be significant," it said.

"HIV-infected persons should be considered as a high risk and a priority population for preventive and therapeutic strategies against influenza including emerging influenza A(H1N1) virus infection," it said.

The virus widely known as "swine flu" has been most severe in Mexico, where government authorities say it has killed more than 100 people, and caused more mild symptoms as it spread around the world to countries including the United States, Austria, Israel, New Zealand and South Korea.

Although the outbreak remains tiny in scale compared to other epidemics such as malaria, hepatitis, and meningitis, the WHO has raised its pandemic alert level to 5 out of 6 due to its rapid spread as well as the possibility that the flu could cause more devastation in poor and disease-prone communities.

Countries with high rates of HIV -- most of which are in Africa -- should work to ensure that vulnerable people get the drugs they need to fight off the flu infection, the WHO said.

Antiviral medicines such as Tamiflu and Relenza decrease the duration of virus excretion and the severity of illness when used for treatment of ill patients, and may also prevent illness when used for prophylaxis.

"Patients at higher risk for complications of influenza including those with HIV infection should be among those prioritised for antiviral treatment with oseltamivir or zanamivir which shortens illness duration and severity in seasonal influenza," the WHO guidance read.

It is best if people infected with the flu strain start to take the antivirals within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms, according to the WHO. There are no known problems with taking those drugs alongside the anti-retrovirals that HIV patients take to suppress their virus.

According to WHO estimates, there are 33 million people infected with immune-weakening HIV worldwide.

[unusual_suspect]

Combined HIV(AIDS)/H1N1 flu? From Reuters!
Quote

Now this is some scary stuff. An airborne version of AIDS? I can't think of more doom than this.

[link to www.alertnet.org]

HIV patients at higher risk from flu, WHO says
02 May 2009 11:53:21 GMT
* WHO fears complications if HIV and H1N1 viruses combine
By Laura MacInnis

GENEVA, May 2 (Reuters) - People with HIV are at high risk from the new flu strain that the World Health Organisation said is on the verge of a pandemic, the WHO said on Saturday.

The United Nations agency said people with immunodeficiency diseases -- including the AIDS virus -- will most likely be vulnerable to health complications from the H1N1 strain, as they are from regular seasonal flu, which kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people a year.

HIV and the new flu strain could also mix together in a dangerous way, as has occurred with HIV and tuberculosis, the WHO said in guidance for health workers on its website.


"Although there are inadequate data to predict the impact of a possible human influenza pandemic on HIV-affected populations, interactions between HIV/AIDS and A(H1N1) influenza could be significant," it said.

"HIV-infected persons should be considered as a high risk and a priority population for preventive and therapeutic strategies against influenza including emerging influenza A(H1N1) virus infection," it said.

The virus widely known as "swine flu" has been most severe in Mexico, where government authorities say it has killed more than 100 people, and caused more mild symptoms as it spread around the world to countries including the United States, Austria, Israel, New Zealand and South Korea.

Although the outbreak remains tiny in scale compared to other epidemics such as malaria, hepatitis, and meningitis, the WHO has raised its pandemic alert level to 5 out of 6 due to its rapid spread as well as the possibility that the flu could cause more devastation in poor and disease-prone communities.

Countries with high rates of HIV -- most of which are in Africa -- should work to ensure that vulnerable people get the drugs they need to fight off the flu infection, the WHO said.

Antiviral medicines such as Tamiflu and Relenza decrease the duration of virus excretion and the severity of illness when used for treatment of ill patients, and may also prevent illness when used for prophylaxis.

"Patients at higher risk for complications of influenza including those with HIV infection should be among those prioritised for antiviral treatment with oseltamivir or zanamivir which shortens illness duration and severity in seasonal influenza," the WHO guidance read.

It is best if people infected with the flu strain start to take the antivirals within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms, according to the WHO. There are no known problems with taking those drugs alongside the anti-retrovirals that HIV patients take to suppress their virus.

According to WHO estimates, there are 33 million people infected with immune-weakening HIV worldwide.

Thanks for posting that, it's an interesting article. That would be quite a curve ball.

[darkovic]

Of course it could be a 2-stage thing so everyone thinks it's nothing, drops their guard because it's "just the flu" then the mass fatalities kick in after a couple f months incubation and spreading.

Maybe not, but possible. If you made a bio weapon what better way than to make people think it's nothing during the infection/spreading stage of the attack?

[darkovic]

No symptoms would be better, but some are bound to have some and they could be the few who they say are infected... when in reality most of us are already and they're the minority who's bodies fought it early.

There's probably plague and counter plague being played out over and over again on us. Someone releases one that will kill most of us and someone else releases another virus that kills the previous virus off.

[herushura]

The Killing of Pigs in egypt sounds very familier indeed, the 5th plague of Egypt was the death of livestock.

May is the 5th month thus the start of the death of pigs in egpyt

[felakuti]

The Killing of Pigs in egypt sounds very familier indeed, the 5th plague of Egypt was the death of livestock.

May is the 5th month thus the start of the death of pigs in egpyt

I always knew there was more to the Egyptian killing of pigs thing.

Probably some sort of sacrifice..

[pri01]

The Killing of Pigs in egypt sounds very familier indeed, the 5th plague of Egypt was the death of livestock.

May is the 5th month thus the start of the death of pigs in egpyt

Excellent observation. You make a very good point and have highlighted my awareness in looking to the bible as a resource to predict events today. Alternatively, numbers (again a biblical chapter) play a big part in events and as such, isn't the number 5 associated with death?

[celtic isis]

There's no need to engineer it, as the sheeple are gullible enough to believe an outbreak of normal flu is swine flu and the compliant media are more than willing to perpetrate this lie without question.

:) This is why i love this forum, where else would you read this? Totally it.




This is an outbreak of normal flu. There is no such thing as swine flu.


This is what french mainstream news etc is saying too! except for the second part of course ;)

flu or no flu that is the question lol from what i saw today of people they're not bothered!

[ferd]

No symptoms would be better, but some are bound to have some and they could be the few who they say are infected... when in reality most of us are already and they're the minority who's bodies fought it early.

There's probably plague and counter plague being played out over and over again on us. Someone releases one that will kill most of us and someone else releases another virus that kills the previous virus off.

MEEZ think yooz might be on the right track Darkozic but meez think this might all be SMOKESCREEN for WHO to put themselves in yooz kitchen table

[drhemp]

Did you all get your Government scaremongering propaganda leaflet on swine flu in the post this morning?

[cleopatraxxx]

Did you all get your Government scaremongering propaganda leaflet on swine flu in the post this morning?

not yet. i am in Bradford

do you want to scan it and post it for us to view it please?

CHEERS

Cleo

[drhemp]

not yet. i am in Bradford

do you want to scan it and post it for us to view it please?

CHEERS

Cleo

It's 10 pages long, I'm well too lazy to do that, you'll just have to wait until you get yours through the door.

[adbasque]

Did you all get your Government scaremongering propaganda leaflet on swine flu in the post this morning?

Well they said every house hold will get one of those leaflets
yes it's nothing but scaremongering, I have even a bigger suspicion

how do we know that those same leaflets are not infected ;)

I thought about this a lot!!

when it comes through the post I will use gloves to put it in the bin outside, yes I am paranoid, it never killed me until now lol :D

[cleopatraxxx]

It's 10 pages long, I'm well too lazy to do that, you'll just have to wait until you get yours through the door.

TEN PAGES?????
wow, that is a lot!
LOL
they do need to sound really convincing! HAHAHAHA

[drhemp]

Big Pharma's FEAR Campaign has been successful. The whole world is now officially panicked and ready for their solution - a swine flu vaccine. They got exactly what they were hoping to accomplish from this falsely generated crisis. 600 million vaccines are expected to be ready for this country alone by the fall. I would suspect based on that timeline that the New World Order is ready to go into high gear around the end of this year. That's just in time for their long stated goal of merging America into a North American Union by 2010 under the control of global handlers. People need to wake up and start connecting the dots. A fabricated health emergency is the excuse they will use to try and take over the country.

"We think 600 million doses is achievable in a six-month time frame" from that northern autumn start, Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Craig Vanderwagen told lawmakers on Thursday.

Source: http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/09460612305/article

[cleopatraxxx]

i have info regarding the schools here in the UK closing soon and the teachers have already been instructed that they will be sending the homework to their students by e-mail...:mad:

also the NHS is not allowing anybody into their facilities (example: to give birth) with more than only your pair of socks, the notes for of the patients history and only one person can visit, all this due to the fear of the flu...:mad:

isn't that "fabulous"?!?! bastards...
could it be that AFTER MASS FORCED VACCINATIONs Project's Blue Beam "alien invasion"will be perpetrated on the public all over the world????

And with the vaccines in the body people will become become more prone to suicide or passive or histeric or paranoic ??!?!?!

This altogether will make it easy to bring in MARTIAL LAW....

not to mention that the plan of these idiots to make out of school military facilities where they will also give military training to schoolkids .... isn't that so convenient for the Illuminati=a.k.a. the Selected ELITE...

of course paralel to this a total economic collapse, the NEW WORLD CURRENCY with it's NEW WORLD ORDER of a TOTAL FASCIST regime?!?!
the dream of Pinochet, Hitler, Stalin and all these present suckers we have in power all over the planet!!!!

if no one sees what is hapenning, then i am sure we are all doomed. and i mean ALL of US... and you know what? i am personally not affraid, i will die before they get me...:eek:

good weekend, since the moon is so beautifukl, full high up in the night sky.

Cleo ................. :(

[cleopatraxxx]

Did you all get your Government scaremongering propaganda leaflet on swine flu in the post this morning?

I DID GET IT TODAY!
WHAT A DISGRACE.. THEY EVEN SAY IN THE LEAFLET THAT THERE IS NOT YET A VACCINATION AGAINST THIS, AND THAT ONE TO BE DEVELOPED COULD TAKE MONTHS. extract:
(Note: UNDERLINED is what i find really denouncing of their involvement to depopulate as well as numerology involved here for all those who are aware. it made me go MAD :mad: when i read this leaflet!!!!)

"WHAT HAVE THE UK GOVERNMENTS BEEN DOING TO PREPARE?
we have been planning for a flu pandemic for a number of years, and the UK plan has been identified as one of the best by the World H Org.

while this current situation is serious, there's good reason for us to be confident that we can deal with it. thanks to the work of scientists who have studied previous pandemincs, we know more now about treatments and how to stop the virus spreading than ever before.

we have a good stockpile of antivirul drugs (including TAMIFLU AND RELENZA)-enough to treat more than 33 million people (half the UK population), and we are planning to increase this.

Antiviral drugs are not a cure, but they help you to recover if taken within 48hrs of symptoms developing by:

-relieving some of the symptoms
-reducing the leght of time you are ill by around a day
-reducing the potential for serious complications, such as pneumonia
"

[cleopatraxxx]

another thing that just stroke my mind:

how convenient it is to anonunce this coming pandemic in spring. So many people are allergic to polen, dusts etc... meaning more than ever COUGHS, no to mention the spraying with chemtrails which is already bad enough and has contributed hugely for the exponential rise in pulmonary viral "unexplained" diseases! The manipualtion of the weather temperatures with chemtrails from mild back to the very low cold temperatures affects immediately people who are out there without their coats, etc..
they are mental perverts these bastards who are doing this to us!

there is no FLU! the sympotms described in the leaflet are IN THE LAST PAGE OF THE IT :
"WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS?
Some of the symptoms are the sudden onset of fever, cough or shortness of breath. Other symptoms can include headache, sore throat, tiredness, aching muscles, chills, sneezing, runny nose or loss of apetite"

FFS!!!!!!, i am always tired because i do a lot physically. i get from time to time a runy nose when i get out into the garden without a coat on, i sneeze when i get back into the house due to the immediate difference in temperatures. i have headache after i stare for too long at the laptop, i also might get a sore throat from time to time due to the sudden changes in temperatures and abit of a prolongated exposure to the cold without a proper coat on. i easily loos my apetite, specially after reading leaflets like this one from the NHS!!!!!!!:mad: i had shortness of breath last year when i had pleurisy. after it was treated and gone, i still have effects of it because my diafragm has been damaged by pleurisy. right now i have a slight fever due to a urinary tract infection... never i was so ill as i have become here in the UK! :eekk:

SO tell me, how do any of these sympotms prove there is a swine flu at all?!?!?!?!?!?!
i bet there will be a wine flu after they infect everyone with the virus through "antiviral drugs" like Tamiflu and RELENZA!!!!! DON'T DOUBT ABOUT IT :mad: iT HAS BEEN SPECIALLY DESIGNED TO DEPOPULATE US, AND THROUGHT FEAR THEY WILL GET MANY BEGGIN FOR THE VACCINE. BASTARDS

just MAD :mad:

[kanz]

Feeling quite worried now. Do you think this could really be a depopulation stunt? Or just mass vaccination? Or both?

If anything mass vaccination's imo, imho this is just a test to see how people will react , or how easy they will be lead to the slaughter so to say.

[moondancer]

I work in the tourist industry.. I had a meeting with someone today who had been in another meeting with health n safety bods and they have been told oink flu is rife, outbreaks every day and the media have got bored and stopped reporting on it

Wonder who is lying? I've wondered if its our company, being over protective of the situation.. but distruption costs big bucks...that just wouldnt happen

[cleopatraxxx]

I work in the tourist industry.. I had a meeting with someone today who had been in another meeting with health n safety bods and they have been told oink flu is rife, outbreaks every day and the media have got bored and stopped reporting on it

Wonder who is lying? I've wondered if its our company, being over protective of the situation.. but distruption costs big bucks...that just wouldnt happen

sorry moondancer, i didnt understand your line of thought.
correct me if i am wrong: u think that there is a FLU OUTBREAK? based on the fact that the bosses comented something on the issue and the media not being reporting it?

just to make sure.

i say: time will tell, but personally i don't belive in this Swine bullshit because rthe sympotoms they describe...honestly....all present flus are alwayas a new srtrain and dcotros don't know anymore which of the newest will be more effective...all is profit. doctors become puzzled, manipulated, and the Pharma profits! sick of it!
i think there will be no Swine influenza as their was no Bird flu one.
this crap that the flu is BIRD-PIG-HUMAN muteted is ridiculous.

[moondancer]

sorry moondancer, i didnt understand your line of thought.
correct me if i am wrong: u think that there is a FLU OUTBREAK? based on the fact that the bosses comented something on the issue and the media not being reporting it?

just to make sure.

i say: time will tell, but personally i don't belive in this Swine bullshit because rthe sympotoms they describe...honestly....all present flus are alwayas a new srtrain and dcotros don't know anymore which of the newest will be more effective...all is profit. doctors become puzzled, manipulated, and the Pharma profits! sick of it!
i think there will be no Swine influenza as their was no Bird flu one.
this crap that the flu is BIRD-PIG-HUMAN muteted is ridiculous.

Hiya lovely :)

I really dont know what I think :D Maybe its nowt like you say to cash in, or to raise fear levels, experiment to see how people react, embedding / programming of our minds, bring in vaccines, lying dormant ready to explode.. Dunno! Something is dodge about it.. the fact they made so much of it..but who knows which agenda it is.

As for what I posted.. just thought it interesting that the MSM seem to have eased back on the reporting (well, the bit I ever see anyway?) but the message at work is - still very much a high risk (I dont mean within our offices...we take people all over the world)

Thinking about it, if this or anything like this cracked off in the future, we carry about 170k passengers at any one time..to a different place nearly everyday... we could be like virus express :eek::p

[white horse]

I work in the tourist industry.. I had a meeting with someone today who had been in another meeting with health n safety bods and they have been told oink flu is rife, outbreaks every day and the media have got bored and stopped reporting on it

Wonder who is lying? I've wondered if its our company, being over protective of the situation.. but distruption costs big bucks...that just wouldnt happen

Don't forget large companies are part of the 'system'.

This is how it works; Departments will take their queue from HR - HR in every company can lay down the law. HR are given that law from central government.

It's easy. One single point of entry/control.

Thell HR departments how to deal with something and they will make it company policy.

This is exactly how Y2K was handled, but that was thru IT depts not HR depts. We were given 'official' governmtent releases about Y2K and the advice to follow.

Same with lab-flu. Your HR dept will be in direct contact with govt departments and taking their instructions from them.

All part of the elite's web of control!

[moondancer]

Don't forget large companies are part of the 'system'.

This is how it works; Departments will take their queue from HR - HR in every company can lay down the law. HR are given that law from central government.

It's easy. One single point of entry/control.

Thell HR departments how to deal with something and they will make it company policy.

This is exactly how Y2K was handled, but that was thru IT depts not HR depts. We were given 'official' governmtent releases about Y2K and the advice to follow.

Same with lab-flu. Your HR dept will be in direct contact with govt departments and taking their instructions from them.

All part of the elite's web of control!

yep.. and of course they control how and what is reported on.. So, they are giving this message to HR / health n safety departments.. but playing it down in MSM (well, I think.. I only skim read papers on line and dont watch the news) :confused: I dont see the point in that..

[white horse]

yep.. and of course they control how and what is reported on.. So, they are giving this message to HR / health n safety departments.. but playing it down in MSM (well, I think.. I only skim read papers on line and dont watch the news) :confused: I dont see the point in that..

Psychology?

[simplysimon]

No idea how much faith to put in this article on Infowars (http://www.prisonplanet.com/flu-doctor-who-to-declare-phase-6-on-swine-flu.html), but essentially the new cases in Scotland today could increase the WHO alert level to 6.

Original Article (http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05140902/Swine_H1N1_Scotland_6l.html)


Unlinked cases of transmission outside North America may trigger announcement

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, May 15, 2009

The website of a US based influenza expert has suggested that the World Health Organisation will soon declare a level six swine flu alert, following new and unlinked cases of transmission in Scotland



Has the roller coaster just gone over the brink?

[lordzoma]

Influenza A(H1N1) - update 30

16 May 2009 -- As of 07:00 GMT, 16 May 2009, 36 countries have officially reported 8451 cases of influenza A(H1N1) infection.

Mexico has reported 2895 laboratory confirmed human cases of infection, including 66 deaths. The United States has reported 4714 laboratory confirmed human cases, including four deaths. Canada has reported 496 laboratory confirmed human cases, including one death. Costa Rica has reported nine laboratory confirmed human cases, including one death.

The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Argentina (1), Australia (1), Austria (1), Belgium (2), Brazil (8), China (4), Colombia (11), Cuba (3), Denmark (1), Ecuador (1), El Salvador (4), Finland (2), France (14), Germany (14), Guatemala (3), Ireland (1), Israel (7), Italy (9), Japan (4), Netherlands (3), New Zealand (9), Norway (2), Panama (43), Peru (1), Poland (1), Portugal (1), Republic of Korea (3), Spain (100), Sweden (2), Switzerland (1), Thailand (2), and the United Kingdom (78).

WHO is not recommending travel restrictions related to the outbreak of the influenza A(H1N1) virus.

Individuals who are ill should delay travel plans and returning travelers who fall ill should seek appropriate medical care. These recommendations are prudent measures which can limit the spread of many communicable diseases, including influenza.

Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO web site on a regular basis.

[indigo28]

Me too this is not good at all. I am reflecting on what to do?
"problem-reaction-solution" as David says.
swine flu-something must be done-mandatory (contaminated?) vaccinations in future?

remember what they didn't do during the plague? They didn't wash their hands, bathe regularly, eat healthy as possible, and get physical activity, and use common sense in avoiding those who are confirmed ill. That's all. Use Reason, common sense, and logic to fight back. We are the "thinking animal" after all. Of course your own intuition is the ultimate guide so the best you can do is listen to your heart; not the TV.

[paolo]

Just a mark off a pandemic? This is increasing in spread and severity.
It shouldn't be happening in the Northern hemisphere at this time of year
It seems to be on its trajectory of becoming much more virulent in the autumn
The homeopathic immunisation becomes more important for those wanting to avoid this and the mainstream vaccination and treatment

[adbasque]

Just a mark off a pandemic? This is increasing in spread and severity.
It shouldn't be happening in the Northern hemisphere at this time of year
It seems to be on its trajectory of becoming much more virulent in the autumn
The homeopathic immunisation becomes more important for those wanting to avoid this and the mainstream vaccination and treatment

No it hasn't gone away, they are just waiting to see how many will run for the vaccin, their goal is the vaccin, to vaccinate as many as possible, if people are reluctant, they'll release it again and we'll have it 24hrs a day on our tv screens.

Or even a mandatory vaccin, they'll start with children, if you want your child to go to school he needs to be vaccinated, and if you say no, there's another law that will force parents to send their kids to school.


They won't let you educate them at home, you're not qualified to educate them :)

[skunksmash]

ive started to see....''get your animals vaccinated'' ads on TV, next will be...''get your childeren vaccinated''..... it makes me giggle when i see this attempt at manipulating the public... :rolleyes:




:)SK

[beldazar]

ive started to see....''get your animals vaccinated'' ads on TV, next will be...''get your childeren vaccinated''..... it makes me giggle when i see this attempt at manipulating the public... :rolleyes:




:)SK

Bloody Nora! I miss all this not having a telly.

It could well backfire on them, anyone with half a brain is going to see through this....surely?

[white horse]

Bloody Nora! I miss all this not having a telly.

It could well backfire on them, anyone with half a brain is going to see through this....surely?

Good words Beldazar - however what you forget is the TV is their greatest weapon;

Anyone with half a brain will have that half a brain turned off whil watching TV - that's a physical reality that you can do nothing about. TV signals act on the same frequency as your brain's alpha patterns and all information gathered by TV bypasses the critical centres of the brain and goes direectly into the register as FACT and TRUTH without you realising it and without you critically analyzing the information.

They have know this effect since the 50s and use it to control us.

[strengthofknowledge]

level 6 now...
:o

[nosferatu_dj]

who level 6 pandemic, to last 2 or more years! announced 12th june 2009

a-pac meating for today 12th june 2009.

it has been said that the level 6 pandemic could last for over 2 years WTF?!?!?!

and it is mutating!!!

who swine flu level 6 pandemic, to last 2 or more years announced 12th june 2009 - YouTube

[nosferatu_dj]

swine flu vaccine ready soon? 12 june a-pac

a-pac cdc fema question time. question when will the vaccine be ready??

swine flu vaccine ready soon? 12 june a-pac WHO - YouTube

[steppewar]

Load of overhyped shit this swine flu. Bet less than 1% of the UK get it and 99% of them will get no more than a mild sniffle.

More scaremongering to make everyone accept compulsory vaccination, and all that entails, probably including an injected mind/body controlling microchip.

[nosferatu_dj]

Load of overhyped shit this swine flu. Bet less than 1% of the UK get it and 99% of them will get no more than a mild sniffle.

More scaremongering to make everyone accept compulsory vaccination, and all that entails, probably including an injected mind/body controlling microchip.

i do agree with u on this.. and also to bring in martial law....

i live in victoria australia and it was just anounced out of the 13,000 cases report in australia. 1011 are in victoria... this was on a-pec tv i watch this to keep upto date on some things.

[tracker]

Load of overhyped shit this swine flu. Bet less than 1% of the UK get it and 99% of them will get no more than a mild sniffle.

More scaremongering to make everyone accept compulsory vaccination, and all that entails, probably including an injected mind/body controlling microchip.


well done steppewar .

this is all hype !

the ITN news at ten last night even ADMITTED that anual flu courses over 1000 deaths each year and this has only coursed 100 .

SO WHY ALL THE BLOODY HYPE THEN ?

as you said steppewar --------------more scaremongering .




:cool:

[cor9]

1000? An avarage flu kills over a million people worldwide if I'm correct. This has only killed about a couple of hundred. If you think about it, it's bearly possible for a flu to kill so few people. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even excist. And then after the 'vaccins', people start getting ill. Watch.

[pri01]

Load of overhyped shit this swine flu. Bet less than 1% of the UK get it and 99% of them will get no more than a mild sniffle.

More scaremongering to make everyone accept compulsory vaccination, and all that entails, probably including an injected mind/body controlling microchip.


That's right, they create the fear and then present the solution, a vaccination that will save lives. More like kill people I suspect, so I will avoid the vaccine thanks and take my chances. I very much doubt this virus or any virus for that matter exists.

[gilly]

This excessive coverage is just fear-mongering, but their motive for overhyping it is genuinely frightening imo - they're not doing it for nothing.

I believe it's not only to push ahead with the enforced vaccinations, but also, they want as much fuss made about any flu-deaths as possible, so that when people start dropping from the vaccine itself, it can be presented that it's the flu that's the killer, & people just didn't get their shots in time. Otherwise, when the 1st few go down, people's suspicions about the vaccinations themselves would be sufficiently aroused to present a problem with the roll-out.

[raven200]

level 6 now...
:o

I think this is going to be something far more serious that it is being made out to be.

I also feel that the number of deaths are possibly incorrect and that the actual numbers maybe much more higher. Initially in Mexico when a few thousand people had it they said there were 152 deaths, and then all of a sudden that number was dropped to 4?

What they are trying to avoid is panick, the elite have there bunkers sorted already and also the medication so they are not worried.

People who should worry are the norms like us, we are possibly in line to be eradicated to reduce population.

Now the other possible thought is that we are in the midst of biological warfare.

China last year reported new virulent viruses causing havoc among the community and then it strange to see a few months later American end of the world has it own infectious virus.

Whatever it maybe I think we need to realise we are not very important in all of this.

On the radio they were saying that now the WHO have put the alert to level 6, which means that governments don't have to give vaccination to all infected, now thats worrying. I mean what is this alert system about then, if it's level 6 then that means save the elite???

Also in australisa where there are huge increases, I heard on the radio a lady saying that they are charging $100 dollars to test if you are infected??

I mean this event is a money making machine for the elite and at the same time reducing world population, whilst these elites sit cosly in there protected shelters!!!

[yozhik]

Two years?

Wow ... what a coincidence.

Isn't that about the same length of time required by the Bush administration to really crank up the cogs in the Homeland Security juggernaut?

The WHO pandemic (cough) will be used in EXACTLY the same manner as 9/11 was used, to usher in a wave of human rights breaching, police state founding, draconian "laws", masquerading as National Security measures and for the "benefit and safety of our citizens".

They must be incredibly desperate and/or focused to see all of the NWO foundations in place by 2012.

[jesuitsdidit]

it has been said that the level 6 pandemic could last for over 2 years WTF?!?!?!

oh yeah

they arent messing around..

[leviathanstaar]

Do you think people will be smart enough to understand that unvaccinated people are no danger to them?

ie what would be the point of the vaccine if people could still transmit you the virus?

I am going to bet they are not.

I wont be getting one.

[size_of_light]

It's getting surreal watching these diabolical cunts like Margaret Chan who at some point in their lives must have consciously chosen to dedicate themselves professionally to the poisoning and enslavement of the entire human race.

There is a greater cosmic justice, and no horror the elite can threaten them with in this lifetime could ever possibly compare to the agony of the furnaces that will await them all in the next world if they choose to continue working towards carrying out this evil agenda against their fellow man.

The ball's in their court.

[bagatell]

They must be incredibly desperate

yep :D

[john connor]

well that was quick wasnt it???

Swiss pharmaceuticals company Novartis said it has successfully produced a first batch of swine flu vaccine weeks ahead of expectations.

The vaccine was made in cells, rather than grown in eggs as is usually the case with vaccines, the company said

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/107033/Novartis-produces-H1N1-vaccine

I suggest we do a bit of research on this Novartis comp

[jesuitsdidit]

The U.S. military says it has confirmed four more cases of swine flu among troops in Germany, for a total of six.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h_Q9wnMexKrvRhakg5bqgpTr7MtAD98NR7D82


US military: 4 more swine flu cases in Germany

1 day ago

BERLIN (AP) — The U.S. military says it has confirmed four more cases of swine flu among troops in Germany, for a total of six.

Military spokesman Steve Davis says the four patients — two Navy and two Air Force personnel — were diagnosed with swine flu while at the military's medical center in Landstuhl for other medical treatments.

Davis says in a statement Wednesday that the four began showing flu-like symptoms on May 27 while sharing a hospital area with two Army soldiers who also have swine flu.

One of the Navy sailors was recently in Italy but the others have not been outside Germany.

The six patients were moved to another building before President Barack Obama visited the hospital on Friday. No other patients have exhibited symptoms.

[jesuitsdidit]

India will urge the countries affected by the H1N1 flu, including the United States whose universities are already on summer vacation, to screen all the out-bound passengers to India to prevent the deadly virus from spreading here, a senior Indian government official said Wednesday.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/10/content_11521372.htm


India urges A/H1N1 flu affected countries to screen outbound passengers
www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-10 19:24:45

NEW DELHI, June 10 (Xinhua) -- India will urge the countries affected by the H1N1 flu, including the United States whose universities are already on summer vacation, to screen all the out-bound passengers to India to prevent the deadly virus from spreading here, a senior Indian government official said Wednesday.

"The Indian Health Ministry has written a letter to the Indian External Affairs Ministry to take up the issue of screening with all the swine-flu affected countries so that the passengers, mostly students, returning to India on vacation be screened of theH1N1 virus. The Health Ministry cannot take up the issue with foreign countries directly due to protocol reasons," the official said, seeking anonymity.

The letter by Indian Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad to Indian External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna states: "We expect a substantial inflow of our students returning from vacation from affected countries. In this view you are requested to take up the matter with the governments of affected countries to do screening of out-bound passengers at their airports."

Special Report: World Tackles A/H1N1 Flu

[gilly]

In a further effort to avoid a plague of Swine flu threads spreading across the forum uncontrollably, I'm going to merge this! :D

[yozhik]

well that was quick wasnt it???

Swiss pharmaceuticals company Novartis said it has successfully produced a first batch of swine flu vaccine weeks ahead of expectations.

The vaccine was made in cells, rather than grown in eggs as is usually the case with vaccines, the company said

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/107033/Novartis-produces-H1N1-vaccine

I suggest we do a bit of research on this Novartis comp

Amazing ... given it takes 4 to 6 months for vaccines to be produced.

Or 3 months, if your company name is Baxter, with a new revolutionary techno speedy uppy thingy. Oh ... and you don't mind the odd mistake of AIDS in your vaccines or Avian Flu in your vaccines ... just a silly little Baxter production accident of course ... nothing intentional ... sorry about that.

[arty2000]

Load of overhyped shit this swine flu. Bet less than 1% of the UK get it and 99% of them will get no more than a mild sniffle.

More scaremongering to make everyone accept compulsory vaccination, and all that entails, probably including an injected mind/body controlling microchip.

spot on:)

[arty2000]

Two years?

Wow ... what a coincidence.

Isn't that about the same length of time required by the Bush administration to really crank up the cogs in the Homeland Security juggernaut?

The WHO pandemic (cough) will be used in EXACTLY the same manner as 9/11 was used, to usher in a wave of human rights breaching, police state founding, draconian "laws", masquerading as National Security measures and for the "benefit and safety of our citizens".

They must be incredibly desperate and/or focused to see all of the NWO foundations in place by 2012.

oops you mean Obama..oops same thing;)

[rhiannon]

It was on BBC london news on the radio that the UK government are 'considering' making vaccination mandatory....

.... DOT + DOT = mandatory swine flu vaccination.

However, if we re-assert out common law rights and re claim ownership of our bodies- we cannot get in 'trouble' for refusing. If we are playing by their rules and obeying their statutes, we will lose. We need to step out of the game.

... Look up the research of Robert Menard, John Harris and Veronica Chapman. If we are free sovereigns under common law they can't make us take the jab.

[john connor]

Novartis has successfully completed production of the first batch of the Influenza A(H1N1) vaccine using the wild virus strain. We are also close to completing manufacture of the first vaccine batch using the reassortant seed — the modified virus provided by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to vaccine manufacturers in May — at our state of the art cell-culture production facility in Marburg, Germany. Based on the success with the wild type strain production, Novartis expects to be able to achieve rapid manufacture and scale up of A(H1N1) vaccine production using cell-based and the reassortant seed.

We are using both cell-based vaccine production in Marburg, which is faster, and our egg-based manufacturing in Liverpool, UK and Siena, Italy to increase the likelihood of the greatest possible supply.

Novartis continues to work alongside the World Health Organization (WHO), US CDC, Pan American Health Organizations (PAHO), and other government agencies worldwide, as well as the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers and Associations (IFPMA) on developing a strong and effective response to the A(H1N1) flu pandemic.

http://www.novartis.com/newsroom/swine-flu/

one of their other companies is SANDOZ

Nice pyramid in their logo:rolleyes:

You have just entered the world of Sandoz - a healthy decision. Sandoz is a global leader in the rapidly growing generics industry, present in more than 130 countries.

http://www.sandoz.com/site/en/index.shtml

oh and this off of wiki

In January 2009 the United States Department of Health & Human Services awarded Novartis a $486 million contract for construction of the first US plant to produce cell-based influenza vaccine, to be located in Holly Springs, North Carolina. The stated goal of this program is the capability of producing 150,000,000 doses of pandemic vaccine within six months of declaring a flu pandemic.[13]

[jesuitsdidit]

It was on BBC london news on the radio that the UK government are 'considering' making vaccination mandatory....

erm
do we hav any more info on this pls??

[cornilouse]

i still dont see how it can be made compulsory, is a soldier really going to shoot a citizen for not taking a vaccine


there is no way i am taking any untested drug..

[nosferatu_dj]

i still dont see how it can be made compulsory, is a soldier really going to shoot a citizen for not taking a vaccine


there is no way i am taking any untested drug..

who level 6 pandemic, to last 2 or more years! announced 12th june 2009
a-pac meating for today 12th june 2009.
it has been said that the level 6 pandemic could last for over 2 years WTF?!?!?!
and it is mutating!!!

WAKE UP!!!! u think that in the 2 years or LONGER! that the level 6 pandemic status would have been enugh to say to u, ( take the vaccine or else!! )

do u realy think they are going to say that they lvl6 pandemic is going to stay around for over 2 years and not be prepared to FORCE people to take the vaccine and everything else they want the people to do.....
do u honestly think they will ASK u to "please take the vaccine" if u refuse?

they want to contain the "flu" welcome to the new world wide CAMP!


who swine flu level 6 pandemic, to last 2 or more years announced 12th june 2009 - YouTube

[yozhik]

they want to contain the "flu" welcome to the new world wide CAMP!




They want to contain the Swine Flu???
So why did they MAKE it?

Six years of painstaking laboratory work, resurrecting the Spanish Flu from a corpse and restructuring the DNA ... intentionally breathing life into an EXTINCT pandemic ... and you think they want to CONTAIN it ????

Seems to me if they wanted to contain it, they would have left the fucking thing extinct :mad:

[d4rk3v1l]

http://crossid.innovya.com/files/images/crossid-diagram.png

The CrossID patent is a chip-less liquid RFID made of a collection of chemical pigments that are mixed in a certain way. This mixture enables the tag to be associated with target in visible or invisible modes. Under proper physical conditions CrossID will start to function as a unique binary ID. This unique ID contains printable ink only, without the need for electronic parts, chips or any other electric circuits on it. CrossID as it results from those mixtures of pigments, can actually represent an endless diversity of unique printable IDs. Both a different behavior and a different structure of those stain pigments create a unique ID.

Monitored binary indications received by versatile output signals, are captured by remote sensors, creating a spatial picture of a specific ID source. Those sensors are built to avoid collisions between multiple targets located in defined areas.

So much attention has been devoted to digital documents that now hard copies are the "weak links” in the security chain. New technologies have always been of interest to mankind, for the potential of both increasing the quality of service and of improving the efficiency of operations. The fast pace of technological development and breakthroughs makes foresight difficult, but the technology revolution seems globally significant and quite likely. The revolution of information availability and utilization will continue to profoundly affect the world in all dimensions. Smart materials, agile manufacturing, and nanotechnology will change the way we produce devices while expanding their capabilities, if barriers to their development are resolved in time.

CrossID addresses the ability to provide printable (liquid) automatic identification technology similar in application to Bar Code technology, but using radio frequency and resonances signals instead of optical signals. First there was a revolution in computers, and then there was a revolution in networking. The next revolution will be in communication materials. The CrossID goal is to become the most common printable ID (Remote Readable ID) method worldwide that can be placed on money bills, papers, folios, wrappers and other objects. It will provide invisible and inexpensive tags (less then 0.1 cent) in any quantity, immune to radiation and high temperatures, and be part of ordinary products manufactured in the same way as is barcode. CrossID can be read from the distance without the conventional visibility or line of sight limitations.

[frontline]

its bollocks the whole thing , uk goverment have not started any screening in public places, nor have they supplied masks nor, do they have hand wash sinks at every local place the media and certain places benefit from a crisis like this

[d4rk3v1l]

The “CrossID” principle:
A Sawdust or liquid (Ink) of refined materials is mixed in a certain way. Under proper physical condition, each element of the pigments mixture will get affected from that phenomenon trigger. All together reaction effects function as a unique readable binary ID. This unique mixture involves only materials (pigments) combination, without electronic parts or chip or any other electric circuit in it. The effected materials (pigments) have an exchangeable binary format. This said integrated combination caused by this said phenomenon reflex effect, appellation as "CrossID".

The innovative technology ensures that CrossID tags have the following benefits:

* Non expensive
* Easily attached to targets
* Unlimited life time
* Does not need power (batteries)
* Environment-friendly
* Visible or Invisible upon demand
* Allows endless binary combinations

CrossID reading system has the following advantages:

* No line of sight needed
* Distant reading
* Multiple tags simultaneous reading
* Penetrating reading of hidden tags. (Except Faraday Cage situation)

CrossID special pigments are attached to the target or its packaging by means of standard printing. CrossID pigments are added to the ink, which acts as a carrier.

There is no need in special printers. Each combination of the different pigments represents a different ID. There could be as many as 2n different IDs, i.e. technologically unlimited.

Background
Automatic identification may be effected in different ways including many bar codes, identification tags and may be used to identify articles and personnel. Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) is an automatic identification technology similar in application to bar code technology, but uses radio frequency instead of optical signals. An RFID system consists of two major components — a reader and a tag or card. They work together to provide the end user with a non-contact solution to uniquely identify people, animals or objects. The reader performs several functions, one of which is to produce a low-level radio frequency magnetic field that serves as a “carrier” of power from the reader to the RFID tag.

A passive RFID tag contains an antenna and an integrated circuit (IC). The IC requires only a minimal amount of electrical power to function. The antenna in the tag provides a means for gathering the energy present in the magnetic field produced by the reader, and converts it to an electrical signal for use by the IC. When a tag is brought into the magnetic field produced by the reader, the recovered energy powers the IC, and an electromagnetic signal modulated with data in the memory is transmitted by the tag’s antenna. The electromagnetic signal transmitted from the tag is recovered by an antenna within the reader, and converted back into an electrical form. The reader contains a sensitive receiving system that is designed to detect and process the weak tag signal, demodulating the original data stored in the tag memory.

As opposed to passive tags, active tags contain a miniature battery that provides the operating power for the IC. When interrogated by the reader, the IC broadcasts a signal that identifies itself to sensitive reader detection and data transmission circuits. This allows the tag to begin sending its data at a considerably greater distance from the reader than its passive counterpart. Additionally, an active tag uses battery energy to produce a much stronger electromagnetic response signal. All of these results in a significantly greater read range than a passive tag.

Many present and upcoming applications require the ability to automatically identify objects from a distance. RFID provides this requirement to some degree and has the benefit that line-of-sight between the reader and tag is not required. This is distinct from optical recognition techniques, such as barcode, that require the optical reader to be in line of sight from the identified object. Most optical reading techniques also require a directional decoding of the identifying code, giving rise to start and stop bits being part of the code. In a conventional, linear bar code, the order in which the bars appear is critical and changing the order results in a different code. The same is applicable also to RFID tags, where typically reflectors in the tag are used to modulate the RF signal, such that the presence or absence of reflectors affects the resulting code that is returned by the tag.

http://www.crossid.com/technology.php

[d4rk3v1l]

Did I mention that CrossID is an Israeli company? It is.

[dangermouse]

Do you think people will be smart enough to understand that unvaccinated people are no danger to them?

ie what would be the point of the vaccine if people could still transmit you the virus?

I am going to bet they are not.

I wont be getting one.

Devils advocate answer: Because you could catch the flu and it could mutate in you into a deadlier virus that would be resistant to the current vaccine
^^

[dude111]

I also feel that the number of deaths are possibly incorrect and that the actual numbers maybe much more higher.Yes well seeng as this was a PLANNED RELEASE,i can understand your statement QUITE WELL!!!

We all have to be on the alert!

[nosferatu_dj]

They want to contain the Swine Flu???
So why did they MAKE it?

Six years of painstaking laboratory work, resurrecting the Spanish Flu from a corpse and restructuring the DNA ... intentionally breathing life into an EXTINCT pandemic ... and you think they want to CONTAIN it ????

Seems to me if they wanted to contain it, they would have left the fucking thing extinct :mad:

PLEASE! say u where being sarcastic when u said that....

umm HELLO SHEEPLE,, WAKE UP!!!!
like they have said " they are keeping the level 6 pandemic for over 2 years "
in other words they know they cannot contain it!... it is so they have a way to bring in martial law and all the rest of there plans to controll the world.

think about it.. CONTAIN THE FLU = CONTAIN THE PEOPLE.

do u realy expect them to just say " we are going world wide, forceing people to take the vaccine. and if they dont take it they are a threat to anyone that is not infected "
" this pandemic is to last over 2 years and we will not stop untill it is wiped out.. if that means killing the people that refuse to take the vaccine then so be it "

WAKE UP!! the WHO, CDC and all that have said that this is to last more then 2 years..... what more of a warning do u need????

[nosferatu_dj]

it is the nazi, jew, hitler thing all over.....

all he had to do was convince people that jews where the threat, evil, and so on.. i can remmember something about how one of the ways he got people to hate jews, to call the police when they knew of where any jews was hideing and so on.
what he did was make out that the jew was some kind of virus that had to be wiped out..

do u not think this is the same???

[bagatell]

However, if we re-assert out common law rights and re claim ownership of our bodies- we cannot get in 'trouble' for refusing.

Do you have step by step guidelines for doing this? The Freeman stuff sounds great in theory but I suspect THEY wont be sending legal council round with the goons that do the dirty work anyway.

[drhemp]

I've merged the WHO swine flu level 5 & 6 threads together and updated the title to level 6.

[adbasque]

This is not good, not good at all. A pandemic is inevitable now. we just have to hope its not a bad one. I have not a clue what to do about my family, work etc. I feel i should be moving out to the mountains or something.

Not really, they are trying to push it to then force martial law on us, watch and see.
in order for them to implement the new world order they have to do

Create a reason for a martial law
Nuclear war
Pandemic
Civil Unres

The latter has to be coordinated in every single country, which is more difficult to do.
So they'll go for the first two.
But a nuclear war is crucial for them, in order to bring in the nwo, reduce population, introduce one world currency (cashless), while the war is on, more laws will be introduced people will be in a state of panic and distress they wouldn't necessarily pay any attention to the laws, all they wish is for the war to end.

Pandemic will kill the vaccin will kill even more, so they get what they want in the end.
We should burn all the bloody labs, stick the so called scientists in jail shut down the drug companies.
.

[dude111]

I've merged the WHO swine flu level 5 & 6 threads together and updated the title to level 6.Thank you my friend :)

[nosferatu_dj]

I've merged the WHO swine flu level 5 & 6 threads together and updated the title to level 6.

WHY????

that did not make it any better.. if anything if u want ot keep them merged u should name the post.. " WHO alert level raised from 5 to 6 "

coz if someone was to read the topic from page one,, all they see is level 5 alert.

[drhemp]

WHY????

that did not make it any better.. if anything if u want ot keep them merged u should name the post.. " WHO alert level raised from 5 to 6 "

coz if someone was to read the topic from page one,, all they see is level 5 alert.

OK, fair enough, we're always open to suggestions. Done.

[celtic isis]

It's still at 5 in France...

please flu hang on at level 5 here just until i've been to the concert of a lifetime lol

:(:eek: i'm fucking scared! don't care about dying just don't want to miss the concert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[nosferatu_dj]

OK, fair enough, we're always open to suggestions. Done.

thank you :D

it is still 5 in france? not for long :(

[cleopatraxxx]

Not really, they are trying to push it to then force martial law on us, watch and see.
in order for them to implement the new world order they have to do

Create a reason for a martial law
Nuclear war
Pandemic
Civil Unres

The latter has to be coordinated in every single country, which is more difficult to do.
So they'll go for the first two.
But a nuclear war is crucial for them, in order to bring in the nwo, reduce population, introduce one world currency (cashless), while the war is on, more laws will be introduced people will be in a state of panic and distress they wouldn't necessarily pay any attention to the laws, all they wish is for the war to end.

Pandemic will kill the vaccin will kill even more, so they get what they want in the end.
We should burn all the bloody labs, stick the so called scientists in jail shut down the drug companies.
.

yes, just watch this YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[johan niklasson]

www.theflucase.com