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synergy777
17-07-2007, 04:47 PM
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2007/170707Brown.htm

Brown backs a European Treaty without referendum

Tony Paterson
London Independent
Tuesday July 17, 2007

Gordon Brown began his first trip abroad since becoming Prime Minister with a pledge to introduce the European Treaty without calling a referendum in Britain.

Mr Brown, who was in Berlin yesterday for dinner with Chancellor Angela Merkel, said it would be possible to make rapid progress on setting a date for the treaty agreed in principle at last month's Brussels summit. "We will not require a referendum on this. It is something that can be worked on closely by Parliament. I think we can make progress quickly on this," he said.

Mr Brown was welcomed at the Berlin chancellery with full military honours by Ms Merkel. However, the two leaders did not indulge in any of the flamboyant gestures employed in the Franco-German relationship. In keeping with their shared upbringing as children of churchmen, Mr Brown and Ms Merkel simply shook hands.

Mr Brown, who met Ms Merkel several times when he was Chancellor, congratulated the German leader on her success in brokering agreements at the recent Brussels and G8 summits. He also credited her with turning round the German economy which he said had contributed to the euro's current strength. He said that Britain would continue to "periodically review" the idea of switching to the euro.

However, the German media underlined Mr Brown's credentials as a eurosceptic. Several commentators pointed out that, as Chancellor, Mr Brown had intervened to prevent Tony Blair's plans to hold a referendum on the euro in Britain.

Mr Brown's presence was being seen as a clear sign that Britain was poised to break with Mr Blair's pro-Iraq war stance. "Brown seems to prefer a certain distance from the US - more out of conviction than populist need," wrote one newspaper.

Other commentators said the combination of a looming British general election and growing public opposition to the Iraq war had put Mr Brown in a position in which he needed European allies "particularly France and Germany" to find a way out of Iraq.

http://infowars.net/articles/july2007/170707EU.htm

EU banks on 'unreadable' treaty

George Jones
London Telegraph
Tuesday July 17, 2007

The revived EU constitution has deliberately been made "unreadable" to help fend off demands for a referendum, according to the former Italian prime minister, Giuliano Amato.

Mr Amato, who is now interior minister in Italy, has been a central figure in all stages of the year-long process of reviving the constitution, heading the 16-strong group of politicians that helped prepare the new EU treaty.

In comments posted on YouTube yesterday he said "EU leaders had decided that the document to be drawn up by an intergovernmental conference should be 'unreadable'.

"If this is the kind of document that the IGC will produce, any prime minister - imagine the UK prime minister - can go to the Commons and say 'Look, you see, it's absolutely unreadable, it's the typical Brussels treaty, nothing new, no need for a referendum'.

"Should you succeed in understanding it there might be some reason for a referendum, because it would mean that there is something new.''

His remarks are embarrassing for Gordon Brown and will be seized on by politicians demanding that Labour should live up to its manifesto commitment at the last election to allow the British people to vote in a referendum on the constitution.

Neil O'Brien, director of the think-tank Open Europe, said: "This is an extraordinary admission from someone who has been close to the negotiations on the EU treaty. The idea of just changing the name of the constitution and pretending that it is just another complex treaty shows a total contempt for voters."

Mr Brown yesterday made a slip when he said he had discussed the EU "constitution" with Bertie Ahern, the Irish prime minister, when they met at Stormont.

His officials quickly sought to explain that Mr Brown had meant to refer to the EU treaty rather than the constitution, which he has insisted is not being brought back in its original form.

Mark Francois, the Conservative Europe spokesman, said the remarks "gave the lie" to attempts by Mr Brown to pass off the revival of the constitution as just a reforming treaty. "Many other European leaders have admitted what the Government failed to tell our people - that this is the old constitution by another name."

Mr Francois said the Labour government should "go back to their pledge and grant the British people a vote in a free and fair referendum".

"Gordon Brown in a Freudian slip referred to the EU constitution yesterday - even our own Prime Minister can no longer keep up the pretence," he said.

Diana Wallace, a Liberal Democrat MEP, said she wanted her party to call for a referendum. In a letter in the Yorkshire Post she wrote: "I, for one, believe that even pro-Europeans should embrace a referendum and I hope and expect that the Liberal Democrats as a whole will call for a vote on the mini or reform treaty, or whatever it is finally called."

She said those who refused such a popular debate and vote did the European cause no good in the longer term.

"If we are to have a positive relationship with the EU, we have to be completely transparent about it. We should be discussing the future direction with people and, hopefully, bringing them with us, through the ballot box."

http://www.openeurope.org.uk/

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http://www.realtruth.org/articles/413-tec.html?gclid=CKqj66rqro0CFQ_ilAodsAzBsg

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kooo
17-07-2007, 04:57 PM
Brown is the new Blair.

synergy777
17-07-2007, 05:06 PM
nah blair was brown lite, the man behind usually has the power. alaistair campbell/mandelson ran blair. ed balls is major player watch for him. see the people in the public view are not usually the real power. look at the bilderbergers etc. if you have real power, you don't need public adulation etc, they are beneath you, etc.

titurel
17-07-2007, 08:08 PM
The primary symbol of the Church of Rome is the Iron Cross, as displayed on the robe of Pope Benedict XVI, in the photo below:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9423/popemassfk7.jpg

The Church of Rome is also behind the European Union agenda. Below is a photo of Tony Blair and Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, signing the European Constitution, in Rome, on 29th October, 2004, in front of a Statue of Pope Innocent X, who objected to the end of the 30 Years War in 1648, amongst many other deeds!

Pope Innocent X milked the papacy to provide a huge personal and family fortune, including a Palace on the Piazza Navonna. He also had a lover by the name of Donna Olympia who also extracted immense wealth with her charms.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9531/europeanconstitution1smqa1.jpg

And below is an official EU poster advertising the European Union. Notice that the building featured is none other than the Tower of Babel! The inscription reads, "Europe: Many Tongues, One Voice":

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4391/eupostercu7.jpg

Here is the actual EU Parliament building!:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8884/eurobabeluj3.jpg

And here's the reverse of the 2 Euro coin, depicting a woman riding a beast:

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/2503/2eurocoinoh0.jpg

In Revelation, the Woman ridding the beast is the Church of Rome. The Church of Rome also oversees the EU! Biblical prophecy is being fulfilled here!

I would agree that there is nothing wrong with the intentions of many Catholics but in respect to the Church of Rome, there is a lot wrong with its fabric. For example, the Roman Church was always about establishing a man made government to rule the world. That is diametrically opposed to Christ's vision for many reasons that I'm sure you're aware of.

The Church's agenda is self evident in the way it's conducted itself historically. It knew that it's teachings were never in accord with the Bible, which is why it forbade people to read it, under penalty of the most horrifying death sentences.

Today, the Church of Rome is pursuing the political NWO agenda that is a counterfeit version of the Kingdom that Christ said would come from heaven, not man, as the Church asserts and insists. That is why Revelation describes her as antichrist and a sorceress.

Part of the problem is that those who control the Church need the energy of people to support their agenda, and they need people to give up their energy willingly because most people from which they can garner energy from live in countries that the Roman Church no longer directly rules over and controls. Thus, they have to tell lies and create deceptions in order to get people to give up their energies and the most prone people are those who are good natured... people who refuse to see that man can be that wicked. That's why tricksters often find good-willed people are the easiest people to swindle and con.

I understand that many people who do not accept the Church as part of their lives find churches to be beautiful places but beauty is sometimes used to to entrap people. A person with a beautiful face, for example, can have a very dark heart!

The reason why Churches are built is because people are told that these buildings are "houses of God", but God, according to the book that the Churches profess to build their teachings on, does not live in any building built by human hands:

"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else." - Acts 17:23-25

Shelley Yates was told by the supernatural beings that the tattoo on her arm of a Serpent biting its tail, represents a compact between her and them. The serpent Ouroboros tattoo on her arm also represents duality. The illusion of duality is necessary for the beings to maintain because without the illusion of duality, the matrix prison that they keep mankind trapped in, would be impossible to maintain, and they need to vamp energy from mankind in order to maintain the illusion that keeps mankind trapped. The easiest people to con for their energy are often those who are good-willed, for obvious reasons.

It's true that good intentions are commendable but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. More is required than just good intentions to solve the world's problems. What is required is for mankind to work out how their energy is being syphoned off. God said:

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"

It's interesting that the beings who approached Shelley refused to give her knowledge but only drew on her emotional weaknesses!

cheeb
17-07-2007, 08:18 PM
that coin is a representation of the rape of Europa,
by Zeus,in the form of a bull,
It's a Greek coin,
The tower of Babel thing is interesting,
Didn't know the EU building was like that though.

titurel
17-07-2007, 08:30 PM
All these goddesses of the Mystery Religion civilisations are Mystery Babylon... the woman who rides the poltiical beast, which in this case is the modern European Union project, which is part of the NWO agenda. The Church of Rome is the mistress who rides over other political rulers of the NWO agenda. She is the Woman who sits a queen over the sovereignties of earth. She rides the beast.
Regarding the EU Parliament building... it was clearly built to represent the Tower of Babel!

synergy777
17-07-2007, 08:31 PM
"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else." - Acts 17:23-25

great post titurel, the tower of babel part two

cruise4
18-07-2007, 03:36 AM
No to the EU. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
How about we take out the Thames Barrier and then dinghy into the Houses of parliament. Should slow any response down!