Is Hitler Popular?

[adbasque]

Is Hitler really unpopular?

They lead us to believe how evil Hitler really is and how hated by the world, while at the same time they are robbing our noses in it.

Let's take a look at few simple facts here:

If Hitler was that Unpopular as they claim, why did they make the Wolksvagen beetle one of the most popular cars for decades since it's creation and it was one of Hitler's favourite cars?

Why is BMW one of the most expensive cars and also popular?

If you look at the BMW very closely it has that little hitler's moustache
and it was created in his honour.

They love to do things like these, insulting our intelligence.

What's the link between Hitler and Charlie Chaplin, they say Hitler liked Charlie Chaplin as a comedian so he shaved his moustache to look just like him, do you believe that? I certainly don't.


I know that Charlie Chaplin was a womaniser, a racist and pro Zionism, he was a member of the Zionist group in the US, at the turn of the century, just like Walt Disney and many others

[zero1]

by Grant Morrison -

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/New%20Adventures%20of%20Hitler%20Grant%20Morrison% 20Steve%20Yeowell.jpg

Very popular!

[hellosatellites]

No. Hitler is not popular.

And another thing...

Hitler is dead. Dead as a door nail.

Let's move on, shall we.

[adbasque]

No. Hitler is not popular.

And another thing...

Hitler is dead. Dead as a door nail.

Let's move on, shall we.

I am sorry that you don't get it :)

[hellosatellites]

I am sorry that you don't get it :)

Don't be sorry.

Just move on

[cheeb]

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http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/716/smthemaskhh8.gif

:rolleyes:

[adbasque]

Don't be sorry.

Just move on

I have a better idea, if you don't like a thread just move on :)
it's a lot simpler than to tell others to move on, I am not as smart as you, you move on and we will follow you, how about that? :)

[neomagic]

Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator - YouTube

[joe911]

Ive read mein kampf and its was a really interesting read he had alot of good ideas and thoughts that are so relevant to today.
Theres a good article somewhere called the good things hitler did and what he did for germany after britain and france screwed them with the treaty of versailles was pretty amazing.

[adbasque]

Ive read mein kampf and its was a really interesting read he had alot of good ideas and thoughts that are so relevant to today.
Theres a good article somewhere called the good things hitler did and what he did for germany after britain and france screwed them with the treaty of versailles was pretty amazing.

Exactly! many people today believe that Hitler was on of the best things that happened to Germany in centuries.

I know there are a lot of people who still regard him as a hero
but they won't dare express it in public, same for Stalin.

[thetonic]

the way the man has been demonized by the media , you can only make one conclusion

The story of Hitler you are told everyday is a lie

do your own research, start digging deep and what you find will change you I promise

[father ted]

As for a lot of evil that Hitler is known for, should be acredited to others like Churchill, whom in fact inspired the idea and design of the type of concentration camps that was used.

As for his popularity (I think he is indeed a famous figure), you can thank the zionist propaganda machine for that one!

Ps, I have heard from other experienced artists that he was a genuinely good artist.

[adbasque]

As for a lot of evil that Hitler is known for, should be acredited to others like Churchill, whom in fact inspired the idea and design of the type of concentration camps that was used.

As for his popularity (I think he is indeed a famous figure), you can thank the zionist propaganda machine for that one!

Ps, I have heard from other experienced artists that he was a genuinely good artist.

Yes very good painter and writer, just recently his paintings were sold on auctions for thousands of pounds

[steppewar]

Exactly! many people today believe that Hitler was on of the best things that happened to Germany in centuries.

I know there are a lot of people who still regard him as a hero
but they won't dare express it in public, same for Stalin.

You are wrong. I believe that Hitler was a hero and I quite openly express this in public, to my family, friends and anyone really.

I believe there is nothing wrong with openly expressing the achievements of Adolf Hitler.

As far as I am concerned, if anyone is offended by this they can just fuck off.

[orbandsceptre27]

Yeah but he did tend to over-react just a tad...

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[secondsun]

...imo`!... it is important to remember that, once, someone wrote on a wall...

"The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing.

[smoke n mirrors]

I guess the history books of tomorrow will be telling the youth of the day, how amazing Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, George Bush and Barack Obama were and all the wonderful things they achieved for humanity.

History is so full of crap...its up to the individual to seek the truth behind what is presented as historical fact. The winners have the privilege of writing history. I for one would not believe a word our political system reports past, present of future. They are deviant, twisted, mind fing twats. I will however believe every word, we write about our leaders when we are done with them.

[adbasque]

You are wrong. I believe that Hitler was a hero and I quite openly express this in public, to my family, friends and anyone really.

I believe there is nothing wrong with openly expressing the achievements of Adolf Hitler.

As far as I am concerned, if anyone is offended by this they can just fuck off.

lol :D I am not wrong when was the last time you saw anyone for example on TV saying Hitler is a hero? not even in Germany

Of course there are people around the world who think of him as a Hero, to me he is just another politician, they are all the same.

However he is not any worse than Churchil, Roosevelt, Stalin and all of the politicians past present and future ones.

The real machine was behind Hitler he was only following orders.
One small clue, with all his powers if anyone doubts, his army could not cross the white line of the Vatican. ;)

They should give you a clue who is the real boss

[secondsun]

As far as I am concerned, if anyone is offended by this they can just fuck off.

...i think the vast majority of people on this Forum, or in fact the World, might have the same attitude towards you!

[steppewar]

lol :D I am not wrong when was the last time you saw anyone for example on TV saying Hitler is a hero? not even in Germany

Of course there are people around the world who think of him as a Hero, to me he is just another politician, they are all the same.

However he is not any worse than Churchil, Roosevelt, Stalin and all of the politicians past present and future ones.

The real machine was behind Hitler he was only following orders.
One small clue, with all his powers if anyone doubts, his army could not cross the white line of the Vatican. ;)

They should give you a clue who is the real boss

Re your last paragraph. Along with the Vatican, I have always wondered why Hitler never invaded Switzerland, a tiny country in the centre of Europe/3rd Reich.

Must have been something to do with all the dodgy Swiss banks.

I'll admit Hitler made mistakes, but up until late 1941 his actions were leading humanity to a paradise on Earth.

Shame illness and his suspect quack 'doctors' messed him up with all their shite 'medicine'.

[darkman]

it wasnt hitler who was evil it was all the power mad understudys that went in his name , every thing for the fuhrer , it is they who got the media into thiknig hitler was the evil 1, he was just a puppet of war mongering churchill hitler never wanted to invade britan as we have germanic connections here in england ( yes thats rite folks we are of the germanic tribe from celtic times ) and hitler was into finding the history of his country , he also brought germany out a rotten econemy and made the country the best for everything like cars and engineering , he was also funded by bushes great great granded who had bunders banks on wall street
he also didnt invade poland that was a media hype again ( justlike our modern day iraq and afganistanbut do we see bush or blair as evil ?) this so called evil man was only defending his country form the jewsih monetry stystem as he had a banking system like no other and the jew zionist didntlike it as they dint control it thats the real reason we went to war ( sorry triedt to over throw the germany goverment )

[steppewar]

it wasnt hitler who was evil it was all the power mad understudys that went in his name , every thing for the fuhrer , it is they who got the media into thiknig hitler was the evil 1, he was just a puppet of war mongering churchill hitler never wanted to invade britan as we have germanic connections here in england ( yes thats rite folks we are of the germanic tribe from celtic times ) and hitler was into finding the history of his country , he also brought germany out a rotten econemy and made the country the best for everything like cars and engineering , he was also funded by bushes great great granded who had bunders banks on wall street

Good points. It's obvious really, the phrase Anglo-Saxon should be a clue.

Saxony is one of the largest provinces in Germany.

The UK declaring war on Germany in 1939 was an act of utter madness. IMO this was the turning point for Earth on the path to heaven or hell.

Obviously as war was declared we are all now living in hell.

[darkman]

yes your rite didnt they also mix with the angles celtic tribe and norsk tribe to creat the germaina region of europe thus then the angles saxons( anglo saxon = anglia ) invaded the britons of uk and then the normans of northern france so throught out history we have had connection with now what is germany ,this is why y hitler didnt want to invade us becouse of our already connections ( i may be wrong on some bits there tho but i do like celtic hisotry )

[astrochicken]

the way the man has been demonized by the media , you can only make one conclusion

The story of Hitler you are told everyday is a lie

do your own research, start digging deep and what you find will change you I promise

You are wrong. I believe that Hitler was a hero and I quite openly express this in public, to my family, friends and anyone really.

I believe there is nothing wrong with openly expressing the achievements of Adolf Hitler.

As far as I am concerned, if anyone is offended by this they can just fuck off.


This is pretty much the way i see it.
Germany achieved a hell of a lot in a few years due, for the main part, in doing away with the concept of lending cash on interest. This was one of their major accomplishments and no doubt, IMHO, THE justifying reason for demonizing hitler to the gullible public.

Then there's the british royal family, for fucks sake, who changed their name to "Windsor" in 1917.. till then they'd allways been called "Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha").

[anthony65]

Popular? I'm not sure how to categorize the popularity of someone like Adolf Hitler.

Much of the thread has developed into people praising Adolf as a man who put the interests of Germany and the Germans first.

I would say that Adolf Hitler was evil and that he was "chosen" by occultists who believed that this charismatic figure was the man to lead an absolutely evil political / occult movement.

Adolf wasn't alone in being evil. He was surrounded by other evil men and he helped to create a movement that enabled countless pyscopaths to get positions of power in the SS, Gestapo etc. whereupon they used this power to murder, torture and abuse millions of innocent men, women and children.

We can argue about the role of Zionism and the Nazis, we can argue about the role of churchill, Roosevelt etc. but the glorification of evil that is taking place on this thread is a red flag to me.

There has been a development on the forum recently which has seen the wannabe genocidalists, mass murderers, Nazi's calling for precisely the kind of evil that most of us are opposed to.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of opposition to this from most forum members.

Bizarre. :confused:

[airkraft]

Could he not have been a good charismatic man with good intensions, who was seen early on by the evil ptb. He was then unknowingly "helped" into power by them knowing that the german public would take to such a man straight away. Then after a few years, when he had all the german people behind him, he was "influenced" in many ways down the path that the ptb wanted him to take, be it through medication, or other means.

[anthony65]

Could he not have been a good charismatic man with good intensions, who was seen early on by the evil ptb. He was then unknowingly "helped" into power by them knowing that the german public would take to such a man straight away. Then after a few years, when he had all the german people behind him, he was "influenced" in many ways down the path that the ptb wanted him to take, be it through medication, or other means.

It is a possibility. From what I've read, however, I think he "went wrong" at an early age.

Just as the green genocidalists of today, David Attenborough, Jonathan Porrit, etc. may be "good men" who genuinely believe that it is in the interests of the planet to "cull" the population by several billion (I think they're very wrong), it could also be true that many of the men swept away by the currents of Fascism and Communism were initially inspired by "noble" motives.

But when people reach the point where every action is justified by the cause, then they have turned onto the path of evil. At some stage they "sell their souls".

I believe that Adolf was demonically inspired.

To be discussed...

[nofuture]

I often wonder how much the First World War affected his thinking, and psychological state and how much it accounts for what he did afterwards.

[lakkimakki]

yeah Hitler is popular by Naciz:D

[kingmonkey]

Hitler was extremely popular in the early years when he was working to transform the German economy etc. It was just later on when he got "carried away" that his popularity started to subside.

[anthony65]

I often wonder how much the First World War affected his thinking, and psychological state and how much it accounts for what he did afterwards.

Have you read "The Spear of Destiny" by Trevor Ravenscroft?

This book goes into a lot of detail about Adolf's occult interests and connections.

He was already well on the way by the time WW1 broke out.

I'm sure that his WW1 experiences affected his thinking, but they were not a crossroads experience.

[cheeney1]

Hitler was Voted as one of the most influential people Of all Time I Think it was Time Magazine :)

Hitler and Nepoleon Lifes are Very similar

[nofuture]

Hitler was Voted as one of the most influential people Of all Time I Think it was Time Magazine :)

Hitler and Nepoleon Lifes are Very similar

He was Time Man of the Year one time.

[cheeney1]

He was Time Man of the Year one time.

I Think it was 1933 could be wrong :o

[anthony65]

Hitler was Voted as one of the most influential people Of all Time I Think it was Time Magazine :)

Hitler and Nepoleon Lifes are Very similar

Adolf and Boney were both heavily influenced by the occult.

They were both driven by a sense of destiny.

Both tried to get their hands on the Spear of Destiny.

Boney was denied this.

Adolf achieved his dream.

Boney led a military expedition to Egypt.

Adolf authorized the Ahnenerbe to scour the world looking for occult artifacts, including Tibet (remember the Tibetan monks found in Berlin at the end of the war! All committed suicide) (Indian Jones anyone?).

Another good read "The Reich of the Black Sun" by Joseph Farrell.

The Nazi's were evil. They were brutal.

But they were also open to scientific concepts outside of the mainstream.

At the end of the war they were massively ahead in many areas.

Operation Paperclip brought thousands of Nazi's to America where they continued their work in rocket technology, for example, or mind control...

Nazis were influential in the CIA. Joseph Farrell argues that the Atom Bombs droped on Japan used Nazi uranium. Reading "The Reich of the Black Sun" recently made me question a lot of the assumptions I'd rpreviously held about WW2 and the aftermath (right up to today).

As many people here know, but maybe not all, the Nazi's were building flying saucers in the 1940's using anti-gravity technology.

The UFO scares in the late 40's were very likely related to manmade Nazi flying saucer technology.

UFOs at the whitehouse? Nazis in the Antarctic...

Flippin' 'eck...

Loads of interesting stuff...

But don't forget the suffering of the innocents...

Millions of them... :(

[hellosatellites]

It is a possibility. From what I've read, however, I think he "went wrong" at an early age.

To be discussed...

Someone like Alice Miller has done extensive work on the effects of traumatic childhood abuse, and in books such as Breaking Down The Walls Of Silence, and The Untouched Key, she shows how abuse and humiliation suffered in childhood has played a major part in shaping such destructive personalities and dictators/tyrants as Hitler and Stalin, and how they played out their own inner pain and hatred (demons if you will) through projections onto the world stage.

A tough read. Not for the faint of heart ;)

[nofuture]

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/projects/hitler/sources/40s/414-141HitlerTime.jpg

1938

[anthony65]

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/projects/hitler/sources/40s/414-141HitlerTime.jpg

1938



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year#Persons_of_the_Year

Person of the Year (formerly Man of the Year) is an annual issue of the United States newsmagazine Time that features and profiles a man, woman, couple, group, idea, place, or machine that "for better or for worse, ...has done the most to influence the events of the year."[

Some of the Time men of the year…

Joseph Stalin twice!

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Richard Nixon twice!

Ayatollah Komeinei

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Bill Clinton twice!

George W. Bush twice!

Rudolf Giuliani!

Kenny Dalglish twice!

[manxboz]

Hitler had some very good idea's there is no doubting that.
Another good book is called 'Blue Fires' all about the nazi ufo's and occult activity.
But he also got very mad near the end when the powers that be turned on him and let him lose the war. But i don't think he died in 1945

[hellosatellites]

[QUOTE=steppewar;956930]

I'll admit Hitler made mistakes, but up until late 1941 his actions were leading humanity to a paradise on Earth.

QUOTE]

Except for large bits of humanity; jews, romas, gays, blacks, the mentally and physically disabled...
The list of 'unwanted' dehumanized human beings would have gone on and on, until there would be no one left in the world but Hitler himself. Such is the logic of the paranoia that fuels black and white thinking, Us and Them, Right and Wrong etc, it keeps dividing and breaking down into ever smaller units. Just like Hitlers mind broke down in ever narrower and more dysfunctional units. see the movie Untergang for an excellent portrayal of this process.

[hmp_britain]

I have got to say that I don't particularly like this thread. I see people praising Hitler and that scares me a lot.

[anthony65]

I have got to say that I don't particularly like this thread. I see people praising Hitler and that scares me a lot.

Check my post 25!

You are not alone on this!

[ronisron]

A lot of people thought Hitler was a great leader, and a lot of folks around the world thought he was fascinating prior to WWII. The media was very sympathetic towards him for a while. He brought Germany back from WWI into economic prosperity again.... then the wheels came off of that in hurry. It was quite obvious who he represented. Not so much famous and popular, more infamous and notorious.

Chaplin was a dickwad, Volkswagens are great cars, as are BMW's and Porsche's. Hitler was a stooge.

[anthony65]

A lot of people thought Hitler was a great leader, and a lot of folks around the world thought he was fascinating prior to WWII. The media was very sympathetic towards him for a while. He brought Germany back from WWI into economic prosperity again.... then the wheels came off of that in hurry. It was quite obvious who he represented. Not so much famous and popular, more infamous and notorious.

Chaplin was a dickwad, Volkswagens are great cars, as are BMW's and Porsche's. Hitler was a stooge.

Your avatar of Daddy Bush is a reminder of the help the Nazis got from American banks and industry.

Hitler didn't bring the Germans back into prosperity. Western bankers and industrialists did. They caused the poverty and they funded the rebuilding.

Germany has produced brilliant minds by the dozen. Adolf can't take credit for that. He did encourage thinking out of the mainstream science box though! So did the rest of the occult Nazi crew.

Remember the Daddy Bush quote about "If people knew what the Bush family had done they'd string us up on lampposts."?

Prescott Bush and various others helped the Nazi's into power. They were still helping when war was declared and got told off. But apparently they continued to help...

Coincidence that the CIA was Nazi inspired and Daddy Bush ended up boss of the CIA?

NATO = NAZI's. Check the logo...

American (and British) money and technology helped the nazi's to prepare for war...

[adbasque]

it wasnt hitler who was evil it was all the power mad understudys that went in his name , every thing for the fuhrer , it is they who got the media into thiknig hitler was the evil 1, he was just a puppet of war mongering churchill hitler never wanted to invade britan as we have germanic connections here in england ( yes thats rite folks we are of the germanic tribe from celtic times ) and hitler was into finding the history of his country , he also brought germany out a rotten econemy and made the country the best for everything like cars and engineering , he was also funded by bushes great great granded who had bunders banks on wall street
he also didnt invade poland that was a media hype again ( justlike our modern day iraq and afganistanbut do we see bush or blair as evil ?) this so called evil man was only defending his country form the jewsih monetry stystem as he had a banking system like no other and the jew zionist didntlike it as they dint control it thats the real reason we went to war ( sorry triedt to over throw the germany goverment )

Yes indeed,
As I said before in my post, he was no more evil than Churchil, Arial Sharon, Bush, Saddam or any other leader, he was no more no less than a puppet, he is no different than Robert Mugabe, Harry Truman, Hu Jintao, Mamar Kaddafi, Benito Mussolini, Roosvelt, and many many more.

At the same time they wanted to lead us to believe that he was evil, and then at the same time they were praising him, by making everything he did, had or achieved as very popular.

They are playing with our heads, to me he was a puppet no more no less than Bill Clinton or Tony Bl'iar or puppet Brown and Obama.

And the woman who calls herself queen of this country is German, and I am pretty sure if we really dig into her origins we will find she's probably his distant cousin.

It's all propaganda, Hitler never had any intentions of invading Britain, because believe it or not, his orders were coming from this country.

he was drawn into a war where he was persuaded that he will be doing something good for the German people and the West.

The best thing to do is to throw away any element of the so called "history" because it was a lit upon a lie and start from scratch digging for the truth.

Unfortunately millions of innocent died believing a lie so don't fall victims too.


To me the biggest Genocide was committed by Harry Truman, but then the same people who carried out the Nakazaki, 9/11, WW1 WW2 and many other historical events are all the same people.

The same people who ordered Harry Truman to drop the bomb, and started the wars are the same people who carried out the vietnam war, Korean war, and so on.
Don't fall victims of lies, if you do history will judge you, you have no excuse, the information is right in front of you, no excuse for ignorance.

[macmauro]

Will people ever realize that are really the nazi's who still are in charge?

Every time i drop this line everybody laughs, yet you just need to search for the connections/history of the "masters" and look around you, how our society and governments have become.

I think it's so much in our faces: too close to the tree to see the forest?

[anthony65]

Will people ever realize that are really the nazi's who still are in charge?

Every time i drop this line everybody laughs, yet you just need to search for the connections/history of the "masters" and look around you, how our society and governments have become.

I think it's so much in our faces: too close to the tree to see the forest?

Here's a book I read recently that says just that...

Rise of the Fourth Reich: Amazon.co.uk: Jim Marrs: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JZhjLQ%2ByL.@@AMEPARAM@@51JZhjLQ%2ByL

Communism / Fascism/Nazism are like evil twins; supposed to be extremes, but one is International Socialism, the other is National Socialism.

[adbasque]

Will people ever realize that are really the nazi's who still are in charge?

Every time i drop this line everybody laughs, yet you just need to search for the connections/history of the "masters" and look around you, how our society and governments have become.

I think it's so much in our faces: too close to the tree to see the forest?

Yes I am sure by now most people realise who is behind the power, but Nazism, Zionism, Fascism communism are just names of regimes which are all from the same ingredients.

[ronisron]

Your avatar of Daddy Bush is a reminder of the help the Nazis got from American banks and industry.

Hitler didn't bring the Germans back into prosperity. Western bankers and industrialists did. They caused the poverty and they funded the rebuilding.

Germany has produced brilliant minds by the dozen. Adolf can't take credit for that. He did encourage thinking out of the mainstream science box though! So did the rest of the occult Nazi crew.

Remember the Daddy Bush quote about "If people knew what the Bush family had done they'd string us up on lampposts."?

Prescott Bush and various others helped the Nazi's into power. They were still helping when war was declared and got told off. But apparently they continued to help...

Coincidence that the CIA was Nazi inspired and Daddy Bush ended up boss of the CIA?

NATO = NAZI's. Check the logo...

American (and British) money and technology helped the nazi's to prepare for war...

I know all about Prescott Bush, Fritz Thyssen, Brooks-Harriman.... that's not the question. I never said I thought Hitler was a leader, I think he 's a stooge. The question asked in this thread is "Is Hitler popular"? I was suggesting that at the time, he was seen as a great leader for Germany, and that he brought them back from economic ruin, etc. The world media was sympathetic to Hitler up until WWII when the atrocities of the Nazi's were exposed. That's all. Obama is not the leader of the US either, but the media is very sympathetic to him right now, and calls him the leader of the country, even though he isn't. He's also very popular right now, and it seems as though he is the one in charge and calling all the shots. He is not popular, not a leader, nor is he in charge.

Just like Hitler.

My Bush avatar is not there because I like Bush Sr.........

Prescott was not only laundering money for the Nazi's through Brooks Harriman, he was also plotting an assassination of his first cousin, FDR, and an overthrow of the American government, with the American Nazi party to rule in it's place. Internment camps, etc. It failed. He took the LONG way around to taking over the US. His son was involved in the Kennedy assassinations, was head of the CIA, ran for Senate -- lost --, tried to get the Republican nod in 1979 -- lost to Reagan -- but was named running mate. Bush Sr (my avatar) has a friend named John Hinckley, Sr. Best friends, and business partners since the 40's. Hinckley's son, John Jr, was friends with Neil Bush, and the Hinckleys lived less than 5 miles from the Bush's in Texas. John Jr was/is famous (popular?) as the would be assassin of Ronald Reagan.

Once again.... is Hitler popular?? Once again, I say more infamous and notorious.

[eternal_spirit]

Your avatar of Daddy Bush is a reminder of the help the Nazis got from American banks and industry.

Hitler didn't bring the Germans back into prosperity. Western bankers and industrialists did. They caused the poverty and they funded the rebuilding.

Germany has produced brilliant minds by the dozen. Adolf can't take credit for that. He did encourage thinking out of the mainstream science box though! So did the rest of the occult Nazi crew.

Remember the Daddy Bush quote about "If people knew what the Bush family had done they'd string us up on lampposts."?

Prescott Bush and various others helped the Nazi's into power. They were still helping when war was declared and got told off. But apparently they continued to help...

Coincidence that the CIA was Nazi inspired and Daddy Bush ended up boss of the CIA?

NATO = NAZI's. Check the logo...

American (and British) money and technology helped the nazi's to prepare for war...

That's what banks do in times of war fund both sides, one side loses but the banks always win. (Rothschilds Jews owned the Federal Reserve "Bank of England and America at the time)
Hitler had an alternative monetary system not one based on high interest on loans "usury" which would have made Germany none reliant on the Mostly Jewish banking cabals.

For this reason Germany had to be destroyed same as Lincoln and Kennedy was assassinated(it was too much competition and stood in the way of the Jewish Communists and their NWO)

[eternal_spirit]

Coincidence that the CIA was Nazi inspired and Daddy Bush ended up boss of the CIA?



That's incorrect.
This is a common mistake here. The CIA was an offshoot and inspired by branches of British Intelligence (OSS) MI5 etc this had nothing to do with the SS of Germany.

Victor Rothschild was head of MI5 or 6, a double agent for Communism after the War. When officially Communists where no longer allies to USA etc.

Mossad (Israel intelligence) is another Rothschild connection.

[zetetic0void]

"Is Hitler Popular?"


That a question with so many angles.

My opinion is that the neo-nazi racists who cling to some weird vision of Hitler as their savour/leader figure are delusional so I won't bother even mentioning that angle any further.

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From the point of view of our western history, he is very very popular! What I mean is that it is he who is projected by our media history as the "great evil" cause of World War II and the most "Evil man" in world history (that's the projection I see from the media).

We now and then get reminded about Stalin and his killing of countless of his own people but it's Hitler our mass media history projects into our 'cultural mind' as the symbol of "evil". When we hear about the US dropping the world's only atomic boimbs on humans, we are told it was a needed action for the overall benefit (BS!). Total hypocrisy!

What if I said Queen Victoria or any number of countless people in power in the past centuries of our societies were just as bad as Hitler. People who have been brainwashed by our media history will laugh this off as silly (but it is true).


All one has to do is look at the basic fact that North and South America were totally 100% stolen by European powers in a mass terror campaign of murder, violence, torture, forced conversion, domination, breaking of treaties and outright theft to see that Hitler pales in comparison to the history of the European powers and colonies during the centuries leading up to him.


I'm not saying Hitler wasn't behind some horrible history but I'm saying all or most of the Kings and Queens of our nations' pasts aren't any better.

He was essentially used by the wealthy western powers to further their agenda.

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So basically, Hitler is a symbol used by our media history. By using him as a symbol of all 'evil' and the allies of WWII as the knights in shining armour representing good, our cultures are left with a biased media-propagated version of history we all go around believing.


Nobody talking about normally accepted history ever talks about the connection between G.H.W Bush's father Prescott Bush (George Bush jr. grandfather) and Fritz Thyssen and Hitler. I wonder if this is ever mentioned in history class in schools?

Nobody ever mentions Wall Street's financial connections to finance Hitler. There are many other things including transfer of technology which points to the fact that elements with power and wealth in the west sponsored the rise of Hitler and the formation of World War II for their own agenda.

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This interview with Prof. Antony Sutton was very good.


"Wall Street & the rise of Hitler"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCpsq55uic&feature=PlayList&p=ECF845C8077FA2C8&index=0&playnext=1


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So yeah , Hitler is extremely "popular" in our western media history projected world-view to make us see a strict line between "good" and "evil" . That line of division is fabricated so we will see our side as 100% good ... so "our side" can get away with horrible deeds and we won't question.


My post in no way supports Hitler ... I am 100% just saying our nations are historically no better.

[joe911]

found that thing i was talking about:

– Outlawed tobacco use.
– Got Germany out of financial woes.
– Outlawed vivisection (The dissection of, or otherwise experimenting on, a living animal, esp for the purpose of ascertaining or demonstrating some fact in physiology or pathology.)
– Encouraged managed breeding programs for young Germans. (TOO BAD AMERICA DOESN'T DO THIS!!)
– Commissioned Ferdinand Porsche to come up with an economical, low maintenance auto for the common German. That car was the "Volkswagon" ("People's Car") - the VW Beetle.
– Established the Autobahn interstate highway system (which is STILL the best in the world) and all other countries copied his inveltion.
– He actually fought in WWI and was awarded the Iron Cross First Class for his actions.
– Created a fleet of cruise ships for the exclusive use of blue-collar workers.
– Created a 'cable network' for radios. (this was really the first Internet!)
– Under his direction, they were the predecessors of modern aircraft.
– By testing students to see what their strong subjects were such as math, science, or writing, he would be able to direct these students towards success in their given fields. Also not having them waste their time on subjects of no interest to their future.
– Prior to the war's outbreak, he had orchestrated a thriving forestry program of 869.300 employed by the forestry service under the third Reich.
Brought honour back for Germany. (The Versailles treaty and other restrictions on armament and economical aspects brought Germany back to the Dark Ages)
– Exposed the Jews [monopoly tenancies] and gave them a run for their money. Jews were hoarding the money, and they were forming many monopolies, and only doing business only with other Jews. (a RACIST action for JEWS!)
– Gave Europa a huge cultural boost by supporting art and true European values, instead of the upcoming jewish/capitalistic culture.
– Research into the health effects of radiation, asbestos, heavy metals, alcohol and tobacco
– Mandated the production of organic foods and encouraged vegetarianism and natural healing
– Pursued alternative energy instead of oil or nuclear energy, regarded by the Nazis as "Jewish physics". Hitler only began nuclear research "grudgingly" in response to American efforts.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77830&page=2

[eternal_spirit]

Jewish mothers bear heredity: "What results? The mother of President
Roosevelt was a Delano. According to Jewish Law (Schulchan Aruk, Ebenaezer
IV) the woman is the bearer of the heredity. That means: children of a
full-blooded Jewess and a Christian are, according to Jewish Law, Jews. It is probable that the Family Delano kept the Jewish blood clean, and that President Roosevelt, according to Jewish Law, is a blooded Jew even if one assumes that the father of the President was Aryan.

Things most will never hear or read about ALL underlined words are LINKS

WORLD WAR II

The JEWS Declared War - AGAINST Germany!

NOT the Other Way Around!

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.htm

[flickflack]

What's the link between Hitler and Charlie Chaplin, they say Hitler liked Charlie Chaplin as a comedian so he shaved his moustache to look just like him, do you believe that? I certainly don't.



He cut some of his moustache to better fit his face in a gas mask while he served in world war 1.

I have heard that Hitler actually liked a parody that Chaplin was playing of Hitler, but I think it's bollocks.

[size_of_light]

Whether you like Churchill and co. or not, I think you'll still find that Hitler was an A-grade asshole.

Just because George Bush makes you feel angry doesn't mean that Saddam Hussein should make you feel horny.

[adbasque]

That's what banks do in times of war fund both sides, one side loses but the banks always win. (Rothschilds Jews owned the Federal Reserve "Bank of England and America at the time)
Hitler had an alternative monetary system not one based on high interest on loans "usury" which would have made Germany none reliant on the Mostly Jewish banking cabals.

For this reason Germany had to be destroyed same as Lincoln and Kennedy was assassinated(it was too much competition and stood in the way of the Jewish Communists and their NWO)

Yes indeed, they own the game, and they've been doing it for many centuries not just now, and the Rothschilds are the queen's cousins, all of the royal families of Europe are impostors, they are not the real royal families.

They are self pointed, the Queen Elizabeth and the Rothschilds and Prince Philip's family are all one family.

[adbasque]

Whether you like Churchill and co. or not, I think you'll still find that Hitler was an A-grade asshole.

Just because George Bush makes you feel angry doesn't mean that Saddam Hussein should make you feel horny.

All we were saying they are all class A ass*** there's no better or worse.
Churchil is the biggest ass* if you only care to check him out, and Bush
The Bush family didn't start yesterday, how many generations of Saddam do you know killing people?

Who supplied Saddam with weapons to wipe out the kurds, and why did he wipe them out?

Because the CIA and the mossad tried to overthrow him with the help of the kurds, he knew they were trying to assassinate him, I am not condoning what he's done, but for some people they only see evil when it's an Arabe or a Muslim.

No all the leaders are bastards regardless, because of Churchil and his plans and the other two, they tried to divide the world into two parts.

He didn't win the war he was part of it, and the sooner you realise that the better, there's no bad and good people, people around the world want the same thing, to live in peace and enjoy life.

It's these bastards that makes us hate each other.
Wake up you're still half asleep

[adbasque]

He cut some of his moustache to better fit his face in a gas mask while he served in world war 1.

I have heard that Hitler actually liked a parody that Chaplin was playing of Hitler, but I think it's bollocks.

Yes I know

[size_of_light]

– Outlawed tobacco use.
– Got Germany out of financial woes.
– Outlawed vivisection (The dissection of, or otherwise experimenting on, a living animal, esp for the purpose of ascertaining or demonstrating some fact in physiology or pathology.)
– Encouraged managed breeding programs for young Germans. (TOO BAD AMERICA DOESN'T DO THIS!!)
– Commissioned Ferdinand Porsche to come up with an economical, low maintenance auto for the common German. That car was the "Volkswagon" ("People's Car") - the VW Beetle.
– Established the Autobahn interstate highway system (which is STILL the best in the world) and all other countries copied his inveltion.
– He actually fought in WWI and was awarded the Iron Cross First Class for his actions.
– Created a fleet of cruise ships for the exclusive use of blue-collar workers.
– Created a 'cable network' for radios. (this was really the first Internet!)
– Under his direction, they were the predecessors of modern aircraft.
– By testing students to see what their strong subjects were such as math, science, or writing, he would be able to direct these students towards success in their given fields. Also not having them waste their time on subjects of no interest to their future.
– Prior to the war's outbreak, he had orchestrated a thriving forestry program of 869.300 employed by the forestry service under the third Reich.
Brought honour back for Germany. (The Versailles treaty and other restrictions on armament and economical aspects brought Germany back to the Dark Ages)
– Exposed the Jews [monopoly tenancies] and gave them a run for their money. Jews were hoarding the money, and they were forming many monopolies, and only doing business only with other Jews. (a RACIST action for JEWS!)
– Gave Europa a huge cultural boost by supporting art and true European values, instead of the upcoming jewish/capitalistic culture.
– Research into the health effects of radiation, asbestos, heavy metals, alcohol and tobacco
– Mandated the production of organic foods and encouraged vegetarianism and natural healing
– Pursued alternative energy instead of oil or nuclear energy, regarded by the Nazis as "Jewish physics". Hitler only began nuclear research "grudgingly" in response to American efforts.


Think about each and every one of these 'accomplishments'. They're either trite, laughable or sinister.

[adbasque]

Jewish mothers bear heredity: "What results? The mother of President
Roosevelt was a Delano. According to Jewish Law (Schulchan Aruk, Ebenaezer
IV) the woman is the bearer of the heredity. That means: children of a
full-blooded Jewess and a Christian are, according to Jewish Law, Jews. It is probable that the Family Delano kept the Jewish blood clean, and that President Roosevelt, according to Jewish Law, is a blooded Jew even if one assumes that the father of the President was Aryan.

Things most will never hear or read about ALL underlined words are LINKS

WORLD WAR II

The JEWS Declared War - AGAINST Germany!

NOT the Other Way Around!

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.htm

That's true, Jews consider the blood line comes from the mother and the father.
that way anyone who has either of the parents will be a Jew, or at least he/she'll consider themselves as Jews so they won't be hostile to any form Jewism not (judaism)

It's carefully crafted
Note another thing, most Jews hide their true names always use different names very few use their real names.


They all do it, they all take Anglo saxon names.

[size_of_light]

All we were saying they are all class A ass*** there's no better or worse.
Churchil is the biggest ass* if you only care to check him out, and Bush
The Bush family didn't start yesterday, how many generations of Saddam do you know killing people?

Who supplied Saddam with weapons to wipe out the kurds, and why did he wipe them out?

Because the CIA and the mossad tried to overthrow him with the help of the kurds, he knew they were trying to assassinate him, I am not condoning what he's done, but for some people they only see evil when it's an Arabe or a Muslim.

No all the leaders are bastards regardless, because of Churchil and his plans and the other two, they tried to divide the world into two parts.

He didn't win the war he was part of it, and the sooner you realise that the better, there's no bad and good people, people around the world want the same thing, to live in peace and enjoy life.

It's these bastards that makes us hate each other.
Wake up you're still half asleep

I agree with you...just thought you were trying to push the 'Hitler wasn't such a bad guy' barrow, when he clearly was a bad guy...just like the other players involved.

[adbasque]

"Is Hitler Popular?"


That a question with so many angles.

My opinion is that the neo-nazi racists who cling to some weird vision of Hitler as their savour/leader figure are delusional so I won't bother even mentioning that angle any further.

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From the point of view of our western history, he is very very popular! What I mean is that it is he who is projected by our media history as the "great evil" cause of World War II and the most "Evil man" in world history (that's the projection I see from the media).

We now and then get reminded about Stalin and his killing of countless of his own people but it's Hitler our mass media history projects into our 'cultural mind' as the symbol of "evil". When we hear about the US dropping the world's only atomic boimbs on humans, we are told it was a needed action for the overall benefit (BS!). Total hypocrisy!

Exactly, I have said that for me the worst genocide was the dropping of the bomb by Harry (bastard) Truman on Japanese cities.

But Hitler is certainly not the only evil and he won't be the last.
Of course it's hypocrisy, and yet people accepted it, when you think an entire city vaporised in an instant!!!

It's just proves how brainwashed people are, and it's not even politically correct to say what you think and feel, because you will be judged by the people.

You can't even express for example stupid views like "I like the SS" uniforms or the German armie's uniform, they will silence you, they turn you into an unbelievable monster!

I don't support any leader, any politician, any banker any royalty

You are absolutely right! well said

[adbasque]

I agree with you...just thought you were trying to push the 'Hitler wasn't such a bad guy' barrow, when he clearly was a bad guy...just like the other players involved.

No no, Not at all, you misunderstood me, I wasn't saying he was a good guy, but they are all monsters as far as I am concerned.

:)

[adbasque]

found that thing i was talking about:



http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77830&page=2

Wolk = People
Wagen = Car, Carriage, Wagon, and so on
it's still popular today ;) "we must hate hitler" but at the same time we must praise him, that's their hidden message.

That's exactly what I was referring to :)
well done!

[size_of_light]

No no, Not at all, you misunderstood me, I wasn't saying he was a good guy, but they are all monsters as far as I am concerned.

:)

Yeah, role-playing monsters, set up so that 60 years later most of us have still got our heads down focussed on the board trying to figure out who are the goodies and who are the baddies without ever questioning why the hell we're playing this game in the first place.

[bob_jones]

Says it all really!!!

Hitler was gay and so that means Bob Jones is too and so Charles will have to King according to M.I.6.

And this is a confession and proof of what ever they want it to be.

They are Police officers after all!!!


I Never Loved Eva Braun - YouTube

[adbasque]

Says it all really!!!

Hitler was gay and so that means Bob Jones is too and so Charles will have to King according to M.I.6.

And this is a confession and proof of what ever they want it to be.

They are Police officers after all!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5vmfwphQQ

Most of his generals were bisexuals, homosexuals and he is no exception and I tell you something, most leaders have at least experienced homsexuality, it's an ego of strength and domination.

So there's no surprise there.
As for Diana warning Bob, yes but Diana was killed for several reasons.
she was against all of their policies and she discovered that they were nothing but a bunch of psychopaths.

Especially Philip her father in law, she was seeking refuge elsewhere, but she felt they were too powerful, she should have used her influence at least to expose them publically that way, maybe it could've saved her life.

To say something if anything happens to me that means they killed me.
but she kept it secret and these people will get rid of her as soon as possible.

And her children were too young so easy to brainwash them.
Diana's brother knows a hell of a lot but he probably fears for his own life and his family, so he'll probably take it with him to his grave.

They say that Diana's mother was a Rothschild, that's possible too.

Anyway we must stick to the topic of this thread.

[clint_giles]

was is not the main stream media that told hitler was an evil man.

is it not the mainstream media ,that still informs us ALOT that Hitler was an evil man.

is it not the mainstream media that ALWAYS TELL US THE TRUTH?

who owns the mainstream media again?

[hmp_britain]

was is not the main stream media that told hitler was an evil man.

is it not the mainstream media ,that still informs us ALOT that Hitler was an evil man.

is it not the mainstream media that ALWAYS TELL US THE TRUTH?

who owns the mainstream media again?

Hitler was an evil man. There isn't a conspiracy in everything. Wether or not Hitler was the main culprit of WWII is irrelevant. He was still an evil man.

[zero1]

Ahem -

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/images/children/Inge_Terboven_on_Hitler.jpg

Liked children, kind to women...

http://www.mediacircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/obama_poster_hitler.gif

Obama will be remembered for similar historical greatness - but fondly and kindly, or as a murdering butcher?

[adbasque]

Hitler was an evil man. There isn't a conspiracy in everything. Wether or not Hitler was the main culprit of WWII is irrelevant. He was still an evil man.

He was an evil puppet, but not the only evil puppet, he wasn't anymore evil than Bush or Clinton or Saddam

[hmp_britain]

Ahem -

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/images/children/Inge_Terboven_on_Hitler.jpg

Liked children, kind to women...

http://www.mediacircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/obama_poster_hitler.gif

Obama will be remembered for similar historical greatness - but fondly and kindly, or as a murdering butcher?

You are joking right? I'm still not quite used to the humour on here so I can't tell. But you are, right?

[hmp_britain]

He was an evil puppet, but not the only evil puppet, he wasn't anymore evil than Bush or Clinton or Saddam


i didnt say he was anymore or less evil than anybody. I was just pointing out that just because the media say he was evil, doesn't mean he wasn't.

[clint_giles]

Hitler was an evil man. There isn't a conspiracy in everything. Wether or not Hitler was the main culprit of WWII is irrelevant. He was still an evil man.

did you know him personally?
or are you going by what you have read/been told?

[adbasque]

did you know him personally?
or are you going by what you have read/been told?

Do we need to know him personally to conclude that he was an evil man? lol
come on!

[kblood]

Hitler did some good things for Germany, that is for sure. Still it kind of ruined it sending so many of the germans to their death, and having so many killed in the war.

Also how did he manage to get a country without money up and running so fast? And capable of mass producing such weapons? Tanks made practically on assembly lines I guess. The funding came from bankers, and his ideas cames from the jesuits from what I have read about him.

The book of revelation I think it is, has something about 2/3s of the jews will die in the end of days and then there will be paradise. Seems they are trying to fulfill that revelation. Hitler just didnt know the whole game plan, and thought he had allies in the UK and US. He got butt fucked royally though, so to speak.

His beliefs mirrors the beliefs of the jesuits, and ironically enough the zionists.

[hmp_britain]

did you know him personally?
or are you going by what you have read/been told?

I know the actions that were carried out under his regime are there for all to see. As I say there may well of been forces behind what Hitler was doing, but If I told you to kill somebody you'd never met and swore blindly it was for the greater good, I would sincerely hope you'd have something to say about it!

I ask you, do you know the Rockerfellers and bushes of this world personally??

[diggers_1]

http://www.adolfthegreat.com/

[cheeb]

Alex Jones Does Not Approve Of "Our Adolf"...!!!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1986/dancingadolf.gif

:eek:

[zero1]

You are joking right? I'm still not quite used to the humour on here so I can't tell. But you are, right?

Yes, it was humour. But allthesame, no man in as comically and absurdly evil as Hitler is portrayed by mainstream history. There was a depth to the man, though he did wrong for what he saw as a noble cause.

[hmp_britain]

Yes, it was humour. But allthesame, no man in as comically and absurdly evil as Hitler is portrayed by mainstream history. There was a depth to the man, though he did wrong for what he saw as a noble cause.

Of course but just because you fight for a cause you believe in, does not excuse your actions. I'm sure the the PTB percieve what they are doing to the world is a noble cause from THEIR perspective. It is based on THEIR idioligies. Just as what Hitler did was based on his.

There are quite a few stray dogs in my area that go around shitting on peoples lawns. I could entice them into my back garden with a nice big bowl of pedigree chum, and then but a bullet in their heads. My neighbours and I would be over the moon, no more shit to pick up. To the dogs I would be the most evil man on the planet.

It's all relative.

[cheeb]

There are quite a few stray dogs in my area that go around shitting on peoples lawns. I could entice them into my back garden with a nice big bowl of pedigree chum, and then but a bullet in their heads. My neighbours and I would be over the moon, no more shit to pick up. To the dogs I would be the most evil man on the planet.

It's all relative.

Alternativley,
You Could Take Those Dogs In,
And Then Get In Contact With A Dog Rescue Centre Near You...!!!

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7686/dogb.jpg

How could you??!!!

To whoever owned this dog:
How could you sit in your nice warm house, probably stuffing your mouth with chips and beer, while this poor girl sat outside in the cold without anything to eat???

How you could look in those big soft brown eyes and still neglect and probably abuse her - to the point that she now can't trust any person, and sits in the corner of her cold cage at the shelter and growls even when spoken to with kindness?

I'm guessing that you probably haven't even noticed that she's missing yet - why would you?

You obviously never spent any time with her before.

But I hope you are satisfied... your poor sweet, abused and neglected dog is now being taken care of by other people, but the cold, hard, and very sad fact is that she probably doesn't stand a chance of finding a loving home (like she so needs and deserves) - most people won't take a chance with her - not when she is so fearful and growls...

especially when there are cute fuzzy little puppies, also needing a home, right in the next cage.

More than likely, this girl will end up being euthanized.

The only blessing is that she at least won't be suffering because of you any longer.

Dog Sanctuaries In Your Area...

http://www.animalrescuers.co.uk/html/dogs.html

:mad::mad::mad:

[romas]

Well history is such a debatable thing, I'm not gonna dwell there, but if you look today nazies and hitler is convenient tool, this whole anti-semitism joke is a form of control, I couldn't care less about the race, but it's pretty obvious who Ruper Murdoch(among many others) is and how his corporations lie to the public, what makes you think they haven't done that with history books, those books were written with intent.

Why isn't ukranian genocide being brought up all the time? Are you guys anti-slavian? Uh huh? Why isn't East Timor massacre being brough up on the media, are you guys anti-asian? Why are jews are being brought up over and over again?

This shit is punded into peoples head, some one somewhere is hoping for some sort of reaction.

[hmp_britain]

Alternativley,
You Could Take Those Dogs In,
And Then Get In Contact With A Dog Rescue Centre Near You...!!!



Dog Sanctuaries In Your Area...

http://www.animalrescuers.co.uk/html/dogs.html

:mad::mad::mad:

And thats my point. However i get rid of the dogs MY CAUSE would remain the same. There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. I would be responsible for the action that I would take, wether or not the cause is a noble one.

[adbasque]

Alternativley,
You Could Take Those Dogs In,
And Then Get In Contact With A Dog Rescue Centre Near You...!!!

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7686/dogb.jpg



Dog Sanctuaries In Your Area...

http://www.animalrescuers.co.uk/html/dogs.html

:mad::mad::mad:

What are you doing?
What the dog has to do with the thread? you want to save the dogs go right ahead, why don't you start a thread to save your beloved dog?

I thought here we're trying to save humans, can we stick to the topic please, thank you.

I don't send money to charities they are all scams.
we are on the brink of being exterminated and all you can think of is her big brown eyes?

No wonder we are treated like dogs.

People children are dying from diseases from hunger and all you could think of is a poor dog?

[adbasque]

Well history is such a debatable thing, I'm not gonna dwell there, but if you look today nazies and hitler is convenient tool, this whole anti-semitism joke is a form of control, I couldn't care less about the race, but it's pretty obvious who Ruper Murdoch(among many others) is and how his corporations lie to the public, what makes you think they haven't done that with history books, those books were written with intent.

Why isn't ukranian genocide being brought up all the time? Are you guys anti-slavian? Uh huh? Why isn't East Timor massacre being brough up on the media, are you guys anti-asian? Why are jews are being brought up over and over again?

This shit is punded into peoples head, some one somewhere is hoping for some sort of reaction.

Exactly, many Genocides took place way after the II world war and they are hardly been mentioned, but the Jewish genocide is repeated time and time again without fail.

for the last 60 years, and at school they teach children about the holocaust and nothing else, if you listen to them you'd think only poor Jews died in that war.

You're absolutely correct, and if you dare mention it to people they bombard you with anti-semetic crap

[cheeb]

What are you doing?
What the dog has to do with the thread? you want to save the dogs go right ahead, why don't you start a thread to save your beloved dog?

I thought here we're trying to save humans, can we stick to the topic please, thank you.

I don't send money to charities they are all scams.
we are on the brink of being exterminated and all you can think of is her big brown eyes?

No wonder we are treated like dogs.

People children are dying from diseases from hunger and all you could think of is a poor dog?

I Am Reacting To This Post...

Originally Posted by hmp_britain

There are quite a few stray dogs in my area that go around shitting on peoples lawns. I could entice them into my back garden with a nice big bowl of pedigree chum, and then but a bullet in their heads. My neighbours and I would be over the moon, no more shit to pick up.

It's A Trickle Up Phenonema This Being A Human Being,
I'm Afraid...!!!

If You Treat The Animals Bad,

It Follows That You Have No Empathy Towards Other Sentient Beings...!!!

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6697/hitler1.gif

I'm Sure Hitler Apologists Would Disagree Though...!!!

Remind Me Again What Hitler Did To His Dog Blondie...

In The Bunker At Berlin...!!!

[smoke n mirrors]

What are you doing?
What the dog has to do with the thread? you want to save the dogs go right ahead, why don't you start a thread to save your beloved dog?

I thought here we're trying to save humans, can we stick to the topic please, thank you.

I don't send money to charities they are all scams.
we are on the brink of being exterminated and all you can think of is her big brown eyes?

No wonder we are treated like dogs.

People children are dying from diseases from hunger and all you could think of is a poor dog?

I think you have missed the point of that section...its an analogy and it is on topic.

Frankly if your human nature, does not extend to all living things we are in deep dogs doo doo's. If you can't treat a dog with the respect it deserves, why would I assume you would treat me any better?

All things big or small are basically here for the same things...we are all just trying to see each new day.

[hmp_britain]

My word. I wish i'd never mentioned the bloody dog!

I was merely using it as an analogy. Somebody said Hitler was fighting for a cause that he thought was a noble one, so maybe we wrongly brand him as evil.

All i was doing was suggesting that the same scenario could apply in my case wth stray dogs. KILLING THEM WOULD STILL BE EVIL, even if MY CAUSE was a noble one.

Clearly a very bad analogy! I apologise!

[cheeb]

I think you have missed the point of that section...its an analogy and it is on topic.

Frankly if your human nature, does not extend to all living things we are in deep dogs doo doo's. If you can't treat a dog with the respect it deserves, why would I assume you would treat me any better?

All things big or small are basically here for the same things...we are all just trying to see each new day.

Too Right...!!!

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7356/hitlerandblondie1.jpg
HITLER WITH BLONDIE

Blondi's death

Before Hitler committed suicide on April 30, 1945, he ordered physician Werner Haase to test a cyanide capsule on Blondi.

The capsule killed her.

According to a report commissioned by Stalin and based on eye witness accounts, Hitler's dog-handler, a Sergeant Fritz Tornow, took Blondi's pups from the arms of the Goebbels children, who had been playing with them, and shot them in the garden of the bunker.

He then killed Eva Braun's two dogs and his own dachshund by lethal injection.

Tornow was later captured by the Allies.

Hitler's nurse, Erna Flegel, said in 2005 that Blondi's death had affected the people in the bunker more than Eva Braun's suicide had.

When the battle of Berlin fizzled out, the dog was exhumed and photographed by the Soviets.

In In Hitler's Bunker: A Boy Soldier's Eyewitness Account of the Führer's Last Days, Armin D. Lehmann elaborated on Blondi's death.

“ That afternoon Hitler summoned Professor Werner Haase from the emergency hospital to the bunker to stage a dress rehearsal of his own suicide.

Hitler no longer trusted the SS and he wanted an assurance that the poison capsules he had been provided with by the SS doctor Ludwig Stumpfegger actually worked.

The guinea pig chosen for this experiment was his beloved Alsatian Blondi.

The dog was led into the toilets off the waiting-room at the foot of the steps to the upper bunker by Hitler's dog attendant Sergeant Fritz Tornow.

Inside, Tornow forced Blondi's jaws open and crushed the capsule with pliers as Haase watched.

The dog collapsed on the ground instantly and didn't move.

Tornow was visibly upset.

Hitler couldn't bear to watch the scene himself.

However, he entered the room shortly afterwards and, seeing the results for himself, departed without saying a word.

Tornow was further mortified to be given the task of shooting Blondi's four young puppies.

The Goebbels children were understandably upset when their sprightly little playthings were wrenched from them.

Tornow took them up to the Chancellery Garden where they were put to death along with several other pets of the bunker inmates.

He Was A Fucking Monster...!!!

Do You Want Me To Elaborate What The Psychopath Did To The Goebells Children Too...!!!

:mad::mad::mad:

[adbasque]

I Am Reacting To This Post...



It's A Trickle Up Phenonema This Being A Human Being,
I'm Afraid...!!!

If You Treat The Animals Bad,

It Follows That You Have No Empathy Towards Other Sentient Beings...!!!

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6697/hitler1.gif

I'm Sure Hitler Apologists Would Disagree Though...!!!

Remind Me Again What Hitler Did To His Dog Blondie...

In The Bunker At Berlin...!!!

I have pets I care about all living things, but this society makes me sick they are turning into animals themselves.

Yes if it's a choice of saving a human being, a child or a dog I won't hesitate that's what I am trying to say.
and all of these charities BS are big scam.
we are human some of us do care some others don't care
and I can show a serial killer who loves his dog but he kills people like nothing
so it has nothing to do with empathy.
I just didn't want to go off topic that's all :)

[cheeb]

My word. I wish i'd never mentioned the bloody dog!


Clearly a very bad analogy! I apologise!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/WolfieSara/holmescat1.jpg

Yep, Bad Analogy...!!!

Enjoy The Forum Though...!!!

And Remember...

It's Just A Ride...!!!

:)

[adbasque]

If you can't treat a dog with the respect it deserves, why would I assume you would treat me any better?

All things big or small are basically here for the same things...we are all just trying to see each new day.

It doesn't mean anything, what makes you think if I treat a dog with respect I will automatically treat you with respect?

I can show you hundreds of killers, let's start with G W Bush he loves his dogs, Clinton, Churchil, did they care about human life? No

And to assume that I don't respect or love animals you're taking it a little too far, you see without realising we are falling in the political correctness, because the whole damn society is turned upside down.

I grew up with dogs and cats I have two cats in my house, but in no way I will put them before any human being.

I love them but if I have to make a choice who to save a dog or a child I think you know the answer to this one :)

[adbasque]

My word. I wish i'd never mentioned the bloody dog!

I was merely using it as an analogy. Somebody said Hitler was fighting for a cause that he thought was a noble one, so maybe we wrongly brand him as evil.

All i was doing was suggesting that the same scenario could apply in my case wth stray dogs. KILLING THEM WOULD STILL BE EVIL, even if MY CAUSE was a noble one.

Clearly a very bad analogy! I apologise!

Yes I understood what you were trying to say mate don't worry about it, I just didn't want the thread to turn into a dog rescue operation lol

You made the point and it was a good point,


All i was doing was suggesting that the same scenario could apply in my case wth stray dogs. KILLING THEM WOULD STILL BE EVIL, even if MY CAUSE was a noble one.

You're absolutely right, anyone can find excuses to carry out his/her evil doing.
Sometimes they even believe their own delusional minds

I fully agree with the analogy :)
Please don't take it personally

In my case it's not the dogs that I have a problem with is this society, millions of innocent children are dying every day from starvation, diseases in the 21st century, and all you see on TV is give £3 a week for RSPCA, I am sorry if I could give money I will be giving it to the children first.

That's how I think if it displeases others sorry

[cheeb]

Did You Ever Watch The Nazi Propaganda Film...

The Eternal Jew...???

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The Nazis often portrayed Jews and other 'subhumans' in their propaganda machine as mice or rats crawling in and out of sewers.

Rats tend to be sneaky, dirty, and uncourteous, often adopting habits and thought as dirty as their environment, and the Nazis thought of Jews the same way.

They were thus 'vermin' to be hunted down and exterminated.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x173/freak_of_the--internet/pinky_brain.jpg

This Is A Bit Subliminal Then Ain't It...???

:eek:

[lewi]

Kids are taught in school about Hitler and they allways seem to admire him and talk about him like he was a great man and this shocks me :eek:

[hmp_britain]

adbasque

I know you knew what I was on about. i was actually replying to the person that got so very offended by my analogy!

I found it quite staggering that somebody could take what i was saying so out of context!

Of course I wouldn't harm a dog for taking a shit on my lawn! I don't like it, but I don't think it warrants a death sentence :D

[ingram0009]

Is Hitler really unpopular?

They lead us to believe how evil Hitler really is and how hated by the world, while at the same time they are robbing our noses in it.

Hitler rode standing up in the back of an open top convertible car.
I would like to see any of the current leaders of the free world do the same.

The way the press attack the Nazi's is a big clue that they were the 'good guys'. Other wise why would they bother?

[cheeney1]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. :cool:

[bowtiedaddy]

Is Hitler really unpopular?

They lead us to believe how evil Hitler really is and how hated by the world, while at the same time they are robbing our noses in it.
Hitler was evil.... but.. he was set up and betrayed, used for his madness, and then thrown out once they had cause the chaos to destroy Europe laying the groundwork they would need for a European Union years later. Hitler was the problem in the problem reaction solution model.


Let's take a look at few simple facts here:

If Hitler was that Unpopular as they claim, why did they make the Wolksvagen beetle one of the most popular cars for decades since it's creation and it was one of Hitler's favourite cars?
He wasn't unpopular. That's how he got away with doing the shit he did. The idiot masses fell for his cult of personality while a minority of educated people watched in horror and protested the tyranny (sound familliar?)

Easy answer: Becuase the people in charge are all Nazis. Whatever advertizing suggestion is spewed at people will becomed the sort of engineered concent they need to create "public opinion".


Why is BMW one of the most expensive cars and also popular?
Marketing.. they aren't the most expensive or most popular though... at least not over here. They were pretty popular in the 90s, if I remember correctly. I see a lot of Mercedes, Jags and Hot Rods and all of the Japanese brands in the upper scale market these days. Mostly a bunch of stupid hippies, and wannabe "california" types driving those fucking things around.


If you look at the BMW very closely it has that little hitler's moustache
and it was created in his honour.
That's pretty typical in a dictatorship. Leader worship is exactly the sort of thing you'll find in that kind of system. You create a dictator via marketing. The dictator is a brand for the product, which is... the New World Order. It's always the same product, just marketed with different brands, and PR campaigns.


They love to do things like these, insulting our intelligence.
How so?


What's the link between Hitler and Charlie Chaplin, they say Hitler liked Charlie Chaplin as a comedian so he shaved his moustache to look just like him, do you believe that? I certainly don't.
Hitler was a big film buff. He did actually like Chaplin a lot. He offered Chaplin to perform in Germany despite his Jewish blood. It's pretty obvious that Chaplin didn't like Hitler very much, as he made a movie taking the ever loving piss out of the third reich before it was fashionable to hate Hitler (they quite liked him at that time: ever wonder why "The Great Dictator" never became that popular and Chaplin was virtually destroyed later in his career?)

I know that Charlie Chaplin was a womaniser, a racist and pro Zionism, he was a member of the Zionist group in the US, at the turn of the century, just like Walt Disney and many others
Where do you get your information from? He was a womanizer? Yeah? Just like pretty much anyone in the entertaiment industry? Even women themselves? There are plenty of Zionists who are pretty misled, and quite innocent in their delusions, much like the mindless idiots grand standing behind a flag. How was he racist? (I haven't seen that myself). Trying to demonize people in the entertainment industry is way too easy. We're all a bunch of nut bars. It's a prerequisite.

[nambo]

Dont you know Hitler started World War 2!

At least that is what they tell us.

My family where Prussian, after world war 1 they had thier country taken from them and given to Poland.

As ethnic Germans living in what now became a hostile country to them they had to flee for thier lives leaving all thier belongings.

They where the lucky ones, Jewish communism incited horrific massacures against even Prussian babies, http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

If another country started doing this to ex-pat British, and our Prime Minister used force to rescue them, would you consider him one of the worst monsters of history?

Despite this, Hitler had tried for peace with Poland.

The man who started World War 2 was the German hating Jew, Winston Churchill, using the above as an excuse to destroy yet another country that stood in the way of the International bankers dictatorship, and to seal the end of the British Empire, which incidentally Hitler wanted us to keep.

[anthony65]

Dont you know Hitler started World War 2!

At least that is what they tell us.

My family where Prussian, after world war 1 they had thier country taken from them and given to Poland.

As ethnic Germans living in what now became a hostile country to them they had to flee for thier lives leaving all thier belongings.

They where the lucky ones, Jewish communism incited horrific massacures against even Prussian babies, http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

If another country started doing this to ex-pat British, and our Prime Minister used force to rescue them, would you consider him one of the worst monsters of history?

Despite this, Hitler had tried for peace with Poland.

The man who started World War 2 was the German hating Jew, Winston Churchill, using the above as an excuse to destroy yet another country that stood in the way of the International bankers dictatorship, and to seal the end of the British Empire, which incidentally Hitler wanted us to keep.

:eek:

Hitler wanted peace with Poland.... :confused:

Fucking hell there is some big scale revisionist history bullshit going on in this thread....

What next?

Saint Adolf?

We can discuss all of the crimes committed by the various parties and the suffering of millions of innocents, but this whitewashing of Saint Adolf and the Nazi's is getting ridiculous...

[bowtiedaddy]

Dont you know Hitler started World War 2!

At least that is what they tell us.

My family where Prussian, after world war 1 they had thier country taken from them and given to Poland.

As ethnic Germans living in what now became a hostile country to them they had to flee for thier lives leaving all thier belongings.

They where the lucky ones, Jewish communism incited horrific massacures against even Prussian babies, http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

If another country started doing this to ex-pat British, and our Prime Minister used force to rescue them, would you consider him one of the worst monsters of history?

Despite this, Hitler had tried for peace with Poland.

The man who started World War 2 was the German hating Jew, Winston Churchill, using the above as an excuse to destroy yet another country that stood in the way of the International bankers dictatorship, and to seal the end of the British Empire, which incidentally Hitler wanted us to keep.

The bankers started WW2. Hitler was a son of a bitch, but he was a tool. His purpose was that he was put in power in order to destroy Europe, in order to provide the pretext to bring in the European Union. I'm not sure what would have happened to him if he hadn't killed himself. He was kind of the Saddam of his time. He thought he was in bed with the elites, they bankrolled him... gave him weapons... let him act like a tyrant, and then used him as a tool to bring in the war machine to (rightfully) take him out. The same tactic over and over.

[bowtiedaddy]

:eek:

Hitler wanted peace with Poland.... :confused:

Fucking hell there is some big scale revisionist history bullshit going on in this thread....

What next?

Saint Adolf?

We can discuss all of the crimes committed by the various parties and the suffering of millions of innocents, but this whitewashing of Saint Adolf and the Nazi's is getting ridiculous...

No kidding. It's not always black or white.

[nofuture]

I heard they have Nazi themed cafes and stuff in the far East and Asian sub-continent, obviously the taboo about Hitler is not as intense as it is here.
http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hitlers-cross.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

.

My family where Prussian, after world war 1 they had thier country taken from them and given to Poland.

As ethnic Germans living in what now became a hostile country to them they had to flee for thier lives leaving all thier belongings.

They where the lucky ones, Jewish communism incited horrific massacures against even Prussian babies, http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

If another country started doing this to ex-pat British, and our Prime Minister used force to rescue them, would you consider him one of the worst monsters of history?

Despite this, Hitler had tried for peace with Poland.

The man who started World War 2 was the German hating Jew, Winston Churchill, using the above as an excuse to destroy yet another country that stood in the way of the International bankers dictatorship, and to seal the end of the British Empire, which incidentally Hitler wanted us to keep.

Yes this is true. Germany got ripped off big time lost most of it's land, including land they needed as trade
routes (Danzig corridor Poland in particular. Poland invaded Germany first.Other economic sanctions where taken (German goods and trade where banned/boycotted in America)

If you don't believe Iraq started the wars against USA and the stories about Iraq/muslims, then you should be able to consider what you read about Germany starting the war with Poland etc are lies.

I had family on both sides during the war.

[eternal_spirit]

:eek:



Fucking hell there is some big scale revisionist history bullshit going on in this thread....

What next?

Saint Adolf?

We can discuss all of the crimes committed by the various parties and the suffering of millions of innocents, but this whitewashing of Saint Adolf and the Nazi's is getting ridiculous...

Hope you read my links in previous post, and the link from nambo (I doubt you have)

Only have to look at the amount of Jews involved at top levels in Government Military etc, once you know this it should be your wake up call to discover that you've believed one of the biggest pile of lies ever about the German people, who are still scapegoated.

I could link to endless articles but I've had enough for now.

[eternal_spirit]

You can rant on for years about (there's no bad Muslims no suicide bombers etc) But there is. And you won't get labeled a Muslim fundamentalist Jihadist etc etc.

Disagree with the official lies about Germans and you soon get labeled a Nazi etc etc.

[anthony65]

Yes this is true. Germany got ripped off big time lost most of it's land, including land they needed as trade
routes (Danzig corridor Poland in particular. Poland invaded Germany first.Other economic sanctions where taken (German goods and trade where banned/boycotted in America)

If you don't believe Iraq started the wars against USA and the stories about Iraq/muslims, then you should be able to consider what you read about Germany starting the war with Poland etc are lies.

I had family on both sides during the war.

Poland invaded Germany first :eek:

There it is again... :eek:

Poland invaded Germany first :eek:

It just doesn't get any more convincing...

Poland invaded Germany first...

Nope...

Still bullshit... :(

Your mix of truth with propaganda is bizarre.

I am willing to investigate what really happened in WW2, but to state that Poland invaded Germany is ridiculous beyond belief...

[anthony65]

You can rant on for years about (there's no bad Muslims no suicide bombers etc) But there is. And you won't get labeled a Muslim fundamentalist Jihadist etc etc.

Disagree with the official lies about Germans and you soon get labeled a Nazi etc etc.

I wouldn't label anyone a Nazi for questioning what happened during WW2, but there is a line to be drawn between questioning what happened and whitewashing the terrible crimes committed by the Nazis.

Terrible crimes also committed by Russians? Yes

British? Yes

Americans? Yes

etc. etc.

Do you accept that the Nazis murdered millions?

[eternal_spirit]

Read the articles man ffs! (this is my last post on the topic)

[anthony65]

Read the articles man ffs! (this is my last post on the topic)

Keep your hair on...!

Typical Nazi. :rolleyes:

No patience...

You shouldn't have invaded Russia before finishing off Britain you know... ;)

[hmp_britain]

I don't believe the initial article is about who was really behind WWII.

We could have an entirely different thread on that subject.

Which ever way you slice it, Hitler was an evil person. He was willing to kill others for his own gains and that doesn't rest well with me. Or the most of the world apparantly :D

[father ted]

:eek:

Hitler wanted peace with Poland.... :confused:


... at first, but churchill made the first moves somewhere in Poland/Prussia I believe, so hitler retaliated.

Don't believe everything that they teach you at school, whenever you talk to people who lived around the time of something like that, you find you get a different story. I would take their word over the school teachers' or history channel.

[anthony65]

I don't believe the initial article is about who was really behind WWII.

We could have an entirely different thread on that subject.

Which ever way you slice it, Hitler was an evil person. He was willing to kill others for his own gains and that doesn't rest well with me. Or the most of the world apparantly :D

People post a couple of photos of Adolf with dogs and children and suddenly he's a misunderstood Saint. :rolleyes:

** I always remember the photo of him patting the boy's head before he sent him to his death against the Russians while the top level Nazis were planning their escapes to South America.

And when did Adolf and his boys start murdering people?

They were already killing political opponents in the early 20's.

** I'm not taking sides by the way, the Communists are the evil twins of the National Socialists.

How did Adolf treat his own?

Remember Ernst Röhm?

Ernst Röhm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many SA men were murdered by Adolf's SS butchers in 1934?

Victims of the Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

** I read the article in the Judicial site, but I was unable to get any confirmation of the figures given anywhere else (except for Stormfront and other Nazi sites, which I'm not going to visit).

The Bromberg massacre took place 2 days after the war started. The figures vary dramatically from the Judicial site and wikipedia (I'm not sticking up for wikipedia by the way).

I am sickened and appalled by the murder of innocents on all sides, but I am not going to sit back and read Nazi Propaganda of the lowest order being peddled as "truth" here on the forum.

[anthony65]

... at first, but churchill made the first moves somewhere in Poland/Prussia I believe, so hitler retaliated.

Don't believe everything that they teach you at school, whenever you talk to people who lived around the time of something like that, you find you get a different story. I would take their word over the school teachers' or history channel.


I don't believe all they taught me at school or on the media channel...

But I also don't believe what some of the Nazi apologists are posting on the forum...

** I've lived in Germany for 12 years and I've spoken to several old men who served in Russia or as boy soldiers on the western front.

I've heard their accounts of atrocities committed against the Germans.

But that doesn't cancel out the atrocities committed by the Germans.

[omnit]

This is the kind of thread that makes me detest the 'human race' in general!

It seems that almost all people are corruptable, to think there are any 'good' or 'bad' sides in any war, its just astonishing and worrying, the truth is that if you are willing to kill a fellow human being for any reason, then you are to an extent evil!

Its hard to see a light at the end for humanity, I seek sanity within, as its the only place I know that it exists for sure!

I really feal for the sanity of the world, it seems to me that an end is iminant, but an end to what? and a begining to what? I dont know for sure, I just know we are in a transition, I just hope its a positive one?

[nambo]

Can I point out Iam not a Nazi and wouldnt want Hitler to be made a saint.
Iam against all Totalitarian socialist world orders.

What I do object to though are lies and slanders delivered by the very elite this forum claims to mistrust, being upheld as truth and thereby helping to mantain the lie that benifits our oppressors.

I wonder if the same people who belive that the Germans where so evil and Churchill was our saviour are the same people who belive that Muslims are evil and a threat to our way of life and that war in the middle east is a just requirement?

Or maybe you have realised that you have been decieved into war with Iraq but deep routed pride in Britains moral victory in WW2 is not something you can relinquish so easily?

My family where there in Poland, ethnic Germans where being persecuted, and long before Hitler came on the scene, it was in the early 20s we had to flee to Germany, this isnt some "bullshit" read on some Nazi sypatisers site, this is my family history that you dont want to belive because it spoils your manufactured world view.

Was Hitler a monster for rebuilding the German nation that was destroyed after the first war?, maybe?
But how about taking a look at Churchill who declaired in 1933 that Germany must be destroyed at all costs, who started the modern practice of purposefully killing innocent women and children in war whereas previously the Nazis had only bombed homes by accident when targeting military targets.
Or Churchills desires to develop anthrax to kill every German man woman and child, only prevented by saner forces in parliament.
What about Dresdon, look up the reasons and results for that, the Mustangs flying out the next morning to kill any of the survivors, mainly nurses by the river.

All world leaders are bad, thats why they get the job, but by picking on one, you glorify another, whereas the truth is its all a lie to decive you. Stop blindly defending our eniemies.

[anthony65]

Can I point out Iam not a Nazi and wouldnt want Hitler to be made a saint.
Iam against all Totalitarian socialist world orders.

What I do object to though are lies and slanders delivered by the very elite this forum claims to mistrust, being upheld as truth and thereby helping to mantain the lie that benifits our oppressors.

I wonder if the same people who belive that the Germans where so evil and Churchill was our saviour are the same people who belive that Muslims are evil and a threat to our way of life and that war in the middle east is a just requirement?

Or maybe you have realised that you have been decieved into war with Iraq but deep routed pride in Britains moral victory in WW2 is not something you can relinquish so easily?

My family where there in Poland, ethnic Germans where being persecuted, and long before Hitler came on the scene, it was in the early 20s we had to flee to Germany, this isnt some "bullshit" read on some Nazi sypatisers site, this is my family history that you dont want to belive because it spoils your manufactured world view.

Was Hitler a monster for rebuilding the German nation that was destroyed after the first war?, maybe?
But how about taking a look at Churchill who declaired in 1933 that Germany must be destroyed at all costs, who started the modern practice of purposefully killing innocent women and children in war whereas previously the Nazis had only bombed homes by accident when targeting military targets.
Or Churchills desires to develop anthrax to kill every German man woman and child, only prevented by saner forces in parliament.
What about Dresdon, look up the reasons and results for that, the Mustangs flying out the next morning to kill any of the survivors, mainly nurses by the river.

All world leaders are bad, thats why they get the job, but by picking on one, you glorify another, whereas the truth is its all a lie to decive you. Stop blindly defending our eniemies.

Hello Nambo!

Firstly, I don't reject the experiences of your family, although I do question the accounts of pre-war history given by some sites that clearly have a pro-Nazi agenda.

I am not here to take sides!

Some of your other arguments are typical of the crap that has been posted on the thread. You still seem to be whitewashing the Nazis and exaggerrating Churchill/British crimes (although I don't dispute that there were British crimes.

Britain started civilian bombing of Germany...?

Yes.

But what about Guernica? Rotterdam? Warsaw? Belgrade?

Or the Italians in Abyssinnia?

Or the British in Iraq?

Dresden? Terrible. Unnecessary. Read Patton's memoirs.

Was Hitler a monster for rebuilding the German nation that was destroyed after the first war?, maybe?

Now there's a loaded question if ever I saw one!

Was Churchill a monster for defending Britain in her hour of need?

Was Stalin a monster for....

etc.

If you contradict the Nazi's weren't so bad after all line then you are accused of being pro-Churchill, pro mainstream, pro-establishment...

No! No! No! I will condemn any tyrannical murderer and their murderous regimes.

Winston Churchill: Remember his quote about the Boer women and children?

All world leaders are bad, thats why they get the job, but by picking on one, you glorify another, whereas the truth is its all a lie to decive you. Stop blindly defending our eniemies.

This thread is about Hitler. What do you expect?

Start another thread about Stalin, Churchill, Harry Truman, Roosevelt, etc. etc. and I will condemn them too where I feel appropriate.

[void]

It's funny that in their rejection of the usually accepted history of events, people then adopt a new accepted history of events that fits their theory. Just as many taught the former cannot always confirm what they've been told or go around spouting off things as 'fact', so to do the folks who adopt the alternative history and go around spouting it off as fact to others, without having possibly been able to get access to all the documents and places needed to know either way. In short, nobody knows (even if they think they do). Even Icke's alternative history of the world is just something that many adopt and go around spouting as fact, after hearing it. You're all just as bad as each other.

[mentalogirl]

let's see what cats think:

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl


:D

[adbasque]

I wouldn't label anyone a Nazi for questioning what happened during WW2, but there is a line to be drawn between questioning what happened and whitewashing the terrible crimes committed by the Nazis.

Terrible crimes also committed by Russians? Yes

British? Yes

Americans? Yes

etc. etc.

Do you accept that the Nazis murdered millions?

British Yes
Americans Yes
Nazis Yes

All of the above are from the same source with different names

[joe911]

let's see what cats think:

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl


:D

haha lol those kitlers are so funny

http://s3.amazonaws.com/bloghoax/kitler.jpg

[father ted]

http://e-forwards.com/wp-content/uploads/hitler-took-my-seat.jpg

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/Hitler-drug-free.jpg

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/hitler-demotivational-poster.jpg

http://www.omgenius.com/images/google-hitler.gif

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1125/4958ym0.jpg

[romas]

:eek:

Hitler wanted peace with Poland.... :confused:

Fucking hell there is some big scale revisionist history bullshit going on in this thread....

What next?




Well one thing to consider if you believe these hardcore "illuminata" exist, they certainly predate the time when the books you've been learning from were designed and printed. Remember books are not word of GOD.
I mean look around you, mainstream politics today is history tomorrow, if nothing comes up your grandchildren will learn that 19 "islamists" from Afghanistan and Iraq
"attacked" the most protected country in the world, movies will be made to further imbed into consciousness the image of fiction as reality.

This is just pure logical nuts and bolts conspiracy, I've not mentioned any ancient civilizations that might have started this clusterfuck or even extra-terrestrial forces(be is demons or aliens or spaghetti monster).

[romas]

It's funny that in their rejection of the usually accepted history of events, people then adopt a new accepted history of events that fits their theory. Just as many taught the former cannot always confirm what they've been told or go around spouting off things as 'fact', so to do the folks who adopt the alternative history and go around spouting it off as fact to others, without having possibly been able to get access to all the documents and places needed to know either way. In short, nobody knows (even if they think they do). Even Icke's alternative history of the world is just something that many adopt and go around spouting as fact, after hearing it. You're all just as bad as each other.



Maybe it has to do with a need of certainty, you know the Aristotelian semantics, black or white, one way or the other. And inherit belief that I am on the side of light, thus my side is "good" etc. etc.

[adbasque]

Re your last paragraph.
Shame illness and his suspect quack 'doctors' messed him up with all their shite 'medicine'.

That is true, he was taking an awful lot of drugs, his doctor was messking him up, he became very irritable, he had all sorts of illnesses, he had IBS (irritable bowel syndrom) I think he was even Diabetes.

He was physically completely messed up and the head followed shortly after.

Anyone could easily turn into a monster, I am almost certain that his doctor knew exactly what he was prescribing..

To completely alter his natural ability turning him into a real monster.
They did it to soldiers in the II world war, especially the Vietnam war.

Not to mention all his advisors so he was influenced by many things.

[zetetic0void]

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/Hitler-drug-free.jpg




There are people who still believe Hitler really was vegetarian ... information I have read points to him not being one. I have read that his favourite dish was stuffed squab (baby pigieon!). I have heard that his doctor often prescribed a limited diet because of his ailments and he may have been playing on the whole Ghandi popularization of being vegetarian (as well as having no vices) early on or in the media.

There is some information suggesting he wished to mostly have a vegetarian doet at times and some people attribute this mostly to the belief that meat caused canver. His mother had died of cancer when he was younger and from what I've read (ie, the doctor said that he had never seen someone so distraight as young Hitler was at the death of his mother) he might have had a strong psychological feeling against meat due to this.

Even so, I have read he liked cured meats and stuffed pigeon... which aren't vegetables ;-)

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As a vegan *AND* also an artist (painter), I feel I must point this out as it is often used as a tool against vegetarians.

[zetetic0void]

The cat's that look like Hitler site is kind of amusing ... some of the hate mail is pretty interesting too LOL

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigboardbest.pl?30:2

[anthony65]

There are people who still believe Hitler really was vegetarian ... information I have read points to him not being one. I have read that his favourite dish was stuffed squab (baby pigieon!). I have heard that his doctor often prescribed a limited diet because of his ailments and he may have been playing on the whole Ghandi popularization of being vegetarian (as well as having no vices) early on or in the media.

There is some information suggesting he wished to mostly have a vegetarian doet at times and some people attribute this mostly to the belief that meat caused canver. His mother had died of cancer when he was younger and from what I've read (ie, the doctor said that he had never seen someone so distraight as young Hitler was at the death of his mother) he might have had a strong psychological feeling against meat due to this.

Even so, I have read he liked cured meats and stuffed pigeon... which aren't vegetables ;-)

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As a vegan *AND* also an artist (painter), I feel I must point this out as it is often used as a tool against vegetarians.

I'd imagine that his vegetarianism was related to his very strong occult interests.

[cheeney1]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. :)

[runciter]

House Passes Hate Crime Bill - Jewish Groups Rejoice

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/22644/48/

the old testament and the talmud will be banned soon http://bravellir.com/gallery/d/6892-1/whistling.gif

[anthony65]

I'd imagine that his vegetarianism was related to his very strong occult interests.

I wasn't saying that vegetarianism is bad by the way! :)

Here is an article from Illuminati News that provides a good introduction to the subject of Adolf, the Nazis (Thule Society) and the occult.

The article recommends reading The Spear of Destiny by Trevor Ravenscroft. I would also recommend this book!

http://www.illuminati-news.com/hitler-occult.htm

[eternal_spirit]

House Passes Hate Crime Bill - Jewish Groups Rejoice

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/22644/48/

the old testament and the talmud will be banned soon http://bravellir.com/gallery/d/6892-1/whistling.gif

Haha and here is the reason why Jews are supremacists. Hitler was responding to racist Jews. He also closed down Masonic Lodges and hated Freemasons (many who where Jews, like the banking Cabals, including exclusively Jewish lodges.

PS guess these new laws will still allow Jews and others who make up lies about Germanic people to continue (they wanna bad mouth others and stifle others free speach) How hypocritical.

[anthony65]

Haha and here is the reason why Jews are supremacists. Hitler was responding to racist Jews. He also closed down Masonic Lodges and hated Freemasons (many who where Jews, like the banking Cabals, including exclusively Jewish lodges.

Did he close down all the lodges?

Were there freemasons amongst the Nazis and their supporters?

[eternal_spirit]

I wasn't saying that vegetarianism is bad by the way! :)

Here is an article from Illuminati News that provides a good introduction to the subject of Adolf, the Nazis (Thule Society) and the occult.

The article recommends reading The Spear of Destiny by Trevor Ravenscroft. I would also recommend this book!

http://www.illuminati-news.com/hitler-occult.htm

If he was veggie then I don't think he'd wanna wash with soap made from dead jews. :rolleyes: Weird that people believe such bullshit yet deny the Jewish blood libel and the Protocols till the cows come home.

Yes read all that before Ant.

Also read Hitler said Christianity and Jesus was made up lies by Jews (meaning he never thought Jesus was real) Which questions the validity of the Spear somewhat. Think it was Frank Herbert also wrote a book called the spear of destiny (he was a sort of horror fiction author) ok read.

Most if not all storys about the Nazis have more than one version which usually contradicts each version. The more you read up on them the more you'll realise this.

He who decodes the mysteries of the spear will rule the world lmao (sounds like a script off Superman)

[eternal_spirit]

It's a common theme in war for museums/artifacts etc to be looted (for money) but also for research which would include occult items. (hence the spear etc)
Wonder who brought all those Obelisks to the UK and USA (couldn't be the Jews could it?)

[eternal_spirit]

Did he close down all the lodges?

Were there freemasons amongst the Nazis and their supporters?
Depends who's version/story you read or believe. (I've heard the one some lodges may have been kept open)

My point was many Lodges and Masons where Jewish Hitler knew this was an important part of how the Jewish supremacists operated (in it for themselves, they hold allegiance to one another based on race/religion at the expense of the German Gentiles) If any other group of people operated like that in any country, the other people/races would soon rebel.

[eternal_spirit]

Germany knew about
The Talmud
Jewish roots/influences of Freemasonry
Jewish banking cabals (usury) Germans had their own plans for a better monetary system that would benefit Germany and any other countries who wanted a better more fair system, that benefitted the people not the bankers. (In part like Kennedy and Lincoln planned, Government money not FR etc)
The Kol Nidre (all oaths and deals etc made by Jews with none Jews (gentiles) are on a certain date once a year made void/broken oaths vows deals etc! Jews hold allegiance/loyalty to each other (be it business deals/custom or whatever) and will rip off and lie to gentiles that's what it meant. The Kol Nidre oath used to be taken and spoken in synagogues.


After world war 1 Germany had most of it's land taken away and much was given over to enemies from that war.

Versailles treaty - the Jewish hands and influence Re - Danzig Corridor and Poland previous posts.

The Protocols of Zion
The Jewish roots of Communism being (Germanys and most of the planets worst enemy)

[jack5]

Is Hitler really unpopular?

They lead us to believe how evil Hitler really is and how hated by the world, while at the same time they are robbing our noses in it.

Let's take a look at few simple facts here:

If Hitler was that Unpopular as they claim, why did they make the Wolksvagen beetle one of the most popular cars for decades since it's creation and it was one of Hitler's favourite cars?

Why is BMW one of the most expensive cars and also popular?

If you look at the BMW very closely it has that little hitler's moustache
and it was created in his honour.

They love to do things like these, insulting our intelligence.

What's the link between Hitler and Charlie Chaplin, they say Hitler liked Charlie Chaplin as a comedian so he shaved his moustache to look just like him, do you believe that? I certainly don't.


I know that Charlie Chaplin was a womaniser, a racist and pro Zionism, he was a member of the Zionist group in the US, at the turn of the century, just like Walt Disney and many others

Is this for real!

[bowtiedaddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxM5IBLeU4 :)

That's one of my favourite ones of all time. :D hahaha

[bowtiedaddy]

There are people who still believe Hitler really was vegetarian ... information I have read points to him not being one. I have read that his favourite dish was stuffed squab (baby pigieon!). I have heard that his doctor often prescribed a limited diet because of his ailments and he may have been playing on the whole Ghandi popularization of being vegetarian (as well as having no vices) early on or in the media.

There is some information suggesting he wished to mostly have a vegetarian doet at times and some people attribute this mostly to the belief that meat caused canver. His mother had died of cancer when he was younger and from what I've read (ie, the doctor said that he had never seen someone so distraight as young Hitler was at the death of his mother) he might have had a strong psychological feeling against meat due to this.

Even so, I have read he liked cured meats and stuffed pigeon... which aren't vegetables ;-)

---------
As a vegan *AND* also an artist (painter), I feel I must point this out as it is often used as a tool against vegetarians.

He wasn't exactly any of that. He shot heroin, smoked, drank, etc..

Every dictator has their mythical hero story and the real story (idiot thugs).

[runciter]

Depends who's version/story you read or believe. (I've heard the one some lodges may have been kept open)

My point was many Lodges and Masons where Jewish Hitler knew this was an important part of how the Jewish supremacists operated (in it for themselves, they hold allegiance to one another based on race/religion at the expense of the German Gentiles) If any other group of people operated like that in any country, the other people/races would soon rebel.

but wasn't the nazi movement a creation of some occultist groups? i suppose these groups were controlled by the sabbatean illuminati, and the whole thing was orchestrated to develop their long-term globalist plan... another goal was to neutralize in advance non-zionist thinking.

[bowtiedaddy]

Dont you know Hitler started World War 2!

At least that is what they tell us.

My family where Prussian, after world war 1 they had thier country taken from them and given to Poland.

As ethnic Germans living in what now became a hostile country to them they had to flee for thier lives leaving all thier belongings.

They where the lucky ones, Jewish communism incited horrific massacures against even Prussian babies, http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

If another country started doing this to ex-pat British, and our Prime Minister used force to rescue them, would you consider him one of the worst monsters of history?

Despite this, Hitler had tried for peace with Poland.

The man who started World War 2 was the German hating Jew, Winston Churchill, using the above as an excuse to destroy yet another country that stood in the way of the International bankers dictatorship, and to seal the end of the British Empire, which incidentally Hitler wanted us to keep.

Wrong. It was the international bankers. Winston Churchill was put into power by the Rothschild banking family: The same guys who put Hitler in power.

You're an idiot if you think Hitler was a peace loving man, though. For example: there are some countries that don't like the globalists, but that doesn't mean they are great peaceful systems either.

Hitler was put into power because he was a tyrant. They knew he was a tyrant, and they wanted him to destabalize Europe. They befreinded him, put him into power, armed Germany, and then funded both sides of the war, after deciding that Russia would make a better puppet and allowing Germany to fall on it's face.

People need to realize that world political strategy is not as simple as that. It's not just a good vs evil, us vs them scenario. Sometimes it's evil vs evil with all of the innocent civilians being slaughtered for the agenda of the tyrants.

Germany pre Hitler WAS an enemy to the globalist bankers. Hitler was the Obama of his day.

[cheeney1]

Hitler gets Banned From Warcraft :D

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[eternal_spirit]

but wasn't the nazi movement a creation of some occultist groups? i suppose these groups were controlled by the sabbatean illuminati, and the whole thing was orchestrated to develop their long-term globalist plan... another goal was to neutralize in advance non-zionist thinking.

Maybe or it was just a political movement (National socialist) formed in reaction to hundreds of years of wars and invasions. And getting a bum deal (done out of their own land after all these wars)

The History of those lands/wars is insanely complicated. (and that's before the two world wars)

[cheeney1]

Little Adolf Hitler - YouTube

[runciter]

Maybe or it was just a political movement (National socialist) formed in reaction to hundreds of years of wars and invasions. And getting a bum deal (done out of their own land after all these wars)

The History of those lands/wars is insanely complicated.

no, i don't think it was a "spontaneous" political movement.

i'm surprised that you can consider it a genuine expression of human ideals.

[bowtiedaddy]

Maybe or it was just a political movement (National socialist) formed in reaction to hundreds of years of wars and invasions. And getting a bum deal (done out of their own land after all these wars)

The History of those lands/wars is insanely complicated. (and that's before the two world wars)

It's a bit like the Russian revolution, eh? Controlled oposition co-opting the real patriots fighting against the real tyrants and offering their "solution" bank rolled by the same people. They are successful because most people don't know who the real people in power are, so they rally against the patsies while the real rulers live it up behind the scenes and take everything they have. There is nothing new under the sun.

Kind of funny. Adolf Hitler's second book being called "new world order". It's no different than Obama pretending he's against the tyrants and then as soon as gaining power, doing everything they do. Political rhetoric never changes. It's been how people have been put into tyrannical governments for thousands of years, and people don't tend to wise up to it for some reason.

[runciter]

He wasn't exactly any of that. He shot heroin, smoked, drank, etc..

Every dictator has their mythical hero story and the real story (idiot thugs).

i think he was also a pedo, i've read that he molested wagner's grandson.

the consequences of tavistockian trauma-based mind control? yes, probably.

[runciter]

Wrong. It was the international bankers. Winston Churchill was put into power by the Rothschild banking family: The same guys who put Hitler in power.

You're an idiot if you think Hitler was a peace loving man, though. For example: there are some countries that don't like the globalists, but that doesn't mean they are great peaceful systems either.

Hitler was put into power because he was a tyrant. They knew he was a tyrant, and they wanted him to destabalize Europe. They befreinded him, put him into power, armed Germany, and then funded both sides of the war, after deciding that Russia would make a better puppet and allowing Germany to fall on it's face.

People need to realize that world political strategy is not as simple as that. It's not just a good vs evil, us vs them scenario. Sometimes it's evil vs evil with all of the innocent civilians being slaughtered for the agenda of the tyrants.

Germany pre Hitler WAS an enemy to the globalist bankers. Hitler was the Obama of his day.

they always control both sides.

[bowtiedaddy]

no, i don't think it was a "spontaneous" political movement.

i'm surprised that you can consider it a genuine expression of human ideals.

No kidding. Anyone with a bit of reserch can discover that it was a controlled oposition banker takeover of Germany. It parallels current politics to a surprising degree. They were eroding Germany's freedoms until it got to a point where they were able to make their move, they brought in some "heroic" figure after bankrupting the country and sending it into chaos, and furthered their agenda, while profiteering off of both sides of the war and playing countries off of each other like pieces on a chess board.

Hitler was a raving loon who was chosen for that exact purpose... to be a raving loon boogeyman. Saddam was funded for that reason, as well as all of these other tyrants. Does it mean they aren't tyrants? Hell no. Does is mean that we aren't also tyrants? Also, hell no. It's a big game to these fuckers. As soon as people wake up to that reality, we can take our world back... unless the Eugenicists have killed all of us beforehand.

[runciter]

It's a bit like the Russian revolution, eh? Controlled oposition co-opting the real patriots fighting against the real tyrants and offering their "solution" bank rolled by the same people. They are successful because most people don't know who the real people in power are, so they rally against the patsies while the real rulers live it up behind the scenes and take everything they have. There is nothing new under the sun.

Kind of funny. Adolf Hitler's second book being called "new world order". It's no different than Obama pretending he's against the tyrants and then as soon as gaining power, doing everything they do. Political rhetoric never changes. It's been how people have been put into tyrannical governments for thousands of years, and people don't tend to wise up to it for some reason.

another excellent post :)

[bowtiedaddy]

i think he was also a pedo, i've read that he molested wagner's grandson.

the consequences of tavistockian trauma-based mind control? yes, probably.

He was bisexual as well. He had a love affair with a male childhood friend of his. When his friend decided to go more towards hetero and marry a woman, he flew into a fit of rage (even physically attacking the guy) and had a nervous breakdown which people who were friends at the time say he never seemed to get over completely.

He was a very insecure fucked up person in reality with a lot of mental problems. His family had a history of mental issues. He was probably related to European aristocracy (all of the inbreeding and all), and wasn't even a legitamite child. His surname wasn't even Hitler.

[bowtiedaddy]

the consequences of tavistockian trauma-based mind control? yes, probably.

Probably. He fits all of the classic traits.

He was a homeless man, living in a halfway house, with a trouble youth, a history of parental abuse (his "stepfather"), etc...

[runciter]

Did Adolph Hitler Have Two Fathers?

By Clifford Shack

According to the evidence presented in the latest research that has been posted on the Internet in recent years, Adolph Hitler's father, Alois Hitler was the illegitimate son of Baron Salomon Meyer Rothschild, head of the Vienna branch of the famous bank.

It is known that Viennese police regularly hushed-up Rothschild's abuses with regard to the women in his employ. Before the Nazis assassinated him, Austrian Chancellor Dollfuss managed to uncover the records that proved that Hitler's grandmother, Anna Maria Schicklgruber, was a servant in Rothschild's Vienna mansion. Her employment was terminated when she became pregnant, presumably through Baron Rothschild. She returned to her home to Spital, Austria where she gave birth to her son, Alois Schicklgruber. Alois later changed his name to Hitler presumably to hide his origins.

Alois would marry Klara Polzl and go on to father Adolph Hitler or so the story goes.

One researcher disagrees with this version of Hitler's origin. One researcher is witness to evidence which sheds new light on the identity of Hitler's biological father. Author, Rabbi and Dayan (Judge), Marvin S. Antelman, had received testimony during a court case in which he presided that Hitler's biological father was not Alois Hitler. Antelman, author of "To Eliminate the Opiate, Volumes I & II", had learned through testimony, that Alois Hitler was not Adolph Hitler's father - but stepfather.

According to "To Eliminate the Opiate, Volume II", Hitler's parents, were both connected to the Frankist/Sabbatian movement based upon the teachings of Jacob Frank and Shabbatai Tzvi, both considered false Messiahs by mainstream Judaism. Hitler's parents, according to Antelman, had participated in at least one of the movement's ceremonies. A ceremony that involved sex among its members. The ceremony occurred on a holiday known as Tisha B'Av or the ninth day of the month of Av.

In Judaism, "Tisha B'Av" is the darkest day on the Jewish calendar, commemorating the destruction of the First and Second Temples. The solemn day is observed by Jews as a day of fasting and prayer. However Frankists celebrated the day with joy and sex. The ninth of Av was the birthday of the movements founder Shabbetai Tzvi.

(According to the Talmud, the Messiah would be born on Tisha B'Av.)

Shabbetai Tzvi was thought to be the Messiah by the majority of the Jewish world in the seventeenth century. His popularity lasted about 18 years. The Frankist Sect, which was rooted in the messianic mission of Shabbetai Zvi (despite his conversion to Islam), celebrates the day of his birth with sex rituals involving incest and adultery.

According to Rabbi Antelman, Adolph Hitler was conceived, in Vienna, during a Frankist celebration of the Ninth of Av, which took place on July 20th, 1888. Adolph Hitler was born 9 months later on April 20th, 1889. According to Antelman, Adolph Hitler's biological father participated in that ceremony of July 20th. Antelman identifies him as a wealthy "Hungarian" Jew who was born in 1861 and died on September 21, 1928. According to Rabbi Antelman the man died in New York City and his first name was Abraham.

Upon hearing the testimony, given under oath, Rabbi Antelman made a commitment not to reveal the family name of Hitler's biological father so as to prevent his descendants any embarrassment especially since one of Abraham X's descendents had become quite prominent within the American Orthodox Jewish community.

It was Hitler's step-father's biological father's relatives that secured Hitler the pivotal role he would play on the world stage. Revealing Abraham X's identity would accomplish nothing to our understanding of who Hitler was and how did he manage to wreak the havoc that he did. His Rothschild connection explains everything to one wise in the methods and goals of the Shabbatean/Frankist core of the Masonic Illuminati.

http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/hitlers2fathers.html

[bowtiedaddy]

I am 99% convinced that that was his real father. It is proven that Alois Hitler wasn't his real father, anyway. His "sister" was really his mother. It's kind of a weird situation actually. He would have been a prime candidate for the Jerry Springer show.

[bowtiedaddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxM5IBLeU4 :)

"Bimler's" decorations on his collar are middle fingers. I just noticed that for the first time hahaha.

[eternal_spirit]

He was bisexual as well. He had a love affair with a male childhood friend of his. When his friend decided to go more towards hetero and marry a woman, he flew into a fit of rage (even physically attacking the guy) and had a nervous breakdown which people who were friends at the time say he never seemed to get over completely.

He was a very insecure fucked up person in reality with a lot of mental problems. His family had a history of mental issues. He was probably related to European aristocracy (all of the inbreeding and all), and wasn't even a legitamite child. His surname wasn't even Hitler.

Oh man you where making sense in the previous post.
Wanna here another version? That's prob just as ridiculous

Hitler when a boy was approached by Jewish peados, it was supposedly a common theme - Rich Jewish men using poor gentile Germans as rent boys.

The whole sex scene of Berlin was set up and run by Jews. (that's the basics fuck knows if it's true) can't remember the rest of the story.

Maybe you're onto something about the inbreeding - There's the one about Hitler was son of a Rotshchild.
Anyway I don't know if there's much point to it all (the Jew v German thing) who was worse etc who is in power and the head of the NWO now etc etc.


I'm slowly recovering from Jewphobia (after reading so much about them) and have tired to stay away from these debates lately. But the amount of bullshit said about Nazis/Germans I end up getting involved again ffs.

I think you may feel the same about some of the things said about Jews.

I'd suggest to the Germanphobic people here who think the Germans/Nazis where the most evil thing since Satan. To also pull their heads out their ass.

[eternal_spirit]

i think he was also a pedo, i've read that he molested wagner's grandson.

the consequences of tavistockian trauma-based mind control? yes, probably.

Mind control check this (of course the Masons phoo phooed it)

Soulja posted this on the last page of the link (Jahbulon thread) It's a quote but he never left a link, so don't know where it came from

Quote:
Quote:
The most 'secret name' of Royal Arch Freemasonry was:

JAHBULON

This manufactured name was a mixture of the different gods that they worshipped. The unholy trinity and worship of Satan. They had used Jewish/Arabic mysticism to research mind control.

See Egyptian Book of the Dead - also the Lesser Key of Solomon, although this book is a fake in terms of 'magic'. It was produced solely as a mind control manual and not for any other purpose i.e. the symbols are used to call up different 'alters' of mind control slaves.

They also experimented with 'time travel' i.e. the disembodied mind can be released from the constraints of time and space, under certain terrible conditions, to produce remote viewers.

What is the new 'password' of Royal Arch Freemasonry?

ALRAHYAH

Why have they changed it?

The first one got outed on the net years ago. It had been used to mainly recruit and train Judaeo-Christian mind control slaves.

The second one is specifically tailored to recruit and train Muslim mind control slaves. Therefore, appropriately enough, it begins with 'AL'.

[anthony65]

Depends who's version/story you read or believe. (I've heard the one some lodges may have been kept open)

My point was many Lodges and Masons where Jewish Hitler knew this was an important part of how the Jewish supremacists operated (in it for themselves, they hold allegiance to one another based on race/religion at the expense of the German Gentiles) If any other group of people operated like that in any country, the other people/races would soon rebel.

I'm completely open on this one...

I always assumed that the Nazis would have knocked off only particular lodges / masons, because I'm sure that the big German industrialists would have inlcuded high ranking masons.

Internal masonic feuds perhaps?

Maybe they're not just one happy brotherhood?

P2 in Italy for example...

[bowtiedaddy]

Oh man you where making sense in the previous post. I allready know your pro hitler anti jew bias... so I am approaching it with that in mind (I am partially an ethnic Jew(Sephardic)-not religiously- I'm also Cherokee native and a couple of other things).

Wanna here another version? That's prob just as ridiculousI'm willing to listen to anything. Whether it's actually able to be backed up by facts or not it another thing.

Hitler when a boy was approached by Jewish peados, it was supposedly a common theme - Rich Jewish men using poor gentile Germans as rent boys.
That's not actually true. He was abused by his stepfather Alois Hitler. He hated his father because of it, and didn't even end up going to his funeral. I believe he attended an opera in Vienna the date of his father's funeral out of spite for him. He did love his mother, however, which had posed as his sister for most of his life. He even wrote about this stuff in his own memoirs... so unless he was totally schizophrenic, I'd be willing to believe that was the case.


The whole sex scene of Berlin was set up and run by Jews. (that's the basics fuck knows if it's true) can't remember the rest of the story. That sounds like a load of crock to me. Just like all of the arabs are suicide bombers? Come on.


Maybe you're onto something about the inbreeding - There's the one about Hitler was son of a Rotshchild.
I believe he probably was. There is no proof who his real father was, but the Rothschild theory seems pretty likely to me. The Rothschild fuckers were notorious for that sort of thing. It is proven that Alois Hitler was not his real father, however.

Anyway I don't know if there's much point to it all (the Jew v German thing) who was worse etc who is in power and the head of the NWO now etc etc.

Well, no ethic or religious group is really the head of the NWO.. The NWO is just a power grab for a group of particularly greedy and power hungry people. Power is their religion, elite is their race. That's all there is to that. Some are Jewish, some are German, some are Asian, some are even African. They have one allegiance, and that is to "the plan". They have no religon other than the illuminist religion. You can find traces of that sort of thing is pretty much any of the modern religions. They work by infiltrating and all religions have been infiltrated to some point.


I'm slowly recovering from Jewphobia (after reading so much about them) and have tired to stay away from these debates lately. But the amount of bullshit said about Nazis/Germans I end up getting involved again ffs. Good. I'm glad to hear that. It's a common misconception, that just like any of these "race/religion" did it theories, are perpetrated by the NWO themselves. I also agree that many Nazis and Germans were compartmentalized. They do the same things now. There are a lot of people who are currently waking up who were previously being used as tools of the NWO. I'm sure it was no different then. I've talked to some older German immigrants and they all have the same thing to say. They were so deceived. They didn't know anything was going wrong at the time. They were just told that there was a threat to their freedom and that measures needed to be taken to protect them. It's the same thing they do these days.. without even deviating (just changing the boogeymen... the Jews were the Bin Laden of the day).


I think you may feel the same about some of the things said about Jews. Against any group. I just don't think that people should be divided like that. We are all really the same.


I'd suggest to the Germanphobic people here who think the Germans/Nazis where the most evil thing since Satan. To also pull their heads out their ass. Agreed. I've been very good friends with older German immigrants who lived through Hitler. Most people who lived through that had no idea what was going on. Even those who did were either afraid to speak up, or were dealt with. There were a lot of anti-Hitler protesters even of the most "Germanic" origin that were put into camps because of it. Hitler killed (probably) something like 6 million Jews, but his body count was AT LEAST double that if not towards the 20 million mark. I do think that it should be known that Jews weren't the only ones he had killed, but as far as these people trying to pretend that it didn't happen or was exaggerated, are just being naieve. If anything, it has been understated. People like that have no idea how bad tyrannical governments really are. Look at Mao. He made Hitler look like a lamb.

[anthony65]

It's a bit like the Russian revolution, eh? Controlled oposition co-opting the real patriots fighting against the real tyrants and offering their "solution" bank rolled by the same people. They are successful because most people don't know who the real people in power are, so they rally against the patsies while the real rulers live it up behind the scenes and take everything they have. There is nothing new under the sun.

Kind of funny. Adolf Hitler's second book being called "new world order". It's no different than Obama pretending he's against the tyrants and then as soon as gaining power, doing everything they do. Political rhetoric never changes. It's been how people have been put into tyrannical governments for thousands of years, and people don't tend to wise up to it for some reason.

Puppets on a string...

[bowtiedaddy]

Puppets on a string...

Precisely. People need to see where the real power lies.

[adbasque]

Wrong. It was the international bankers. Winston Churchill was put into power by the Rothschild banking family: The same guys who put Hitler in power.

You're an idiot if you think Hitler was a peace loving man, though. For example: there are some countries that don't like the globalists, but that doesn't mean they are great peaceful systems either.

Lol I agree, you'd think after all this time some people will grasp it, but obviously not.

Sad

[void]

I'd imagine that his vegetarianism was related to his very strong occult interests.

Nah, Hitler was probably just trying to follow another vegetarianism wannabe, Richard Wagner, who wanted to be vegetarian because of his interest in the writings of Arthur Schopenhauer who adopted certain Oriental ideas into his writings. Oriental as in Vedanta and Buddhist, rather than anything particularly sisnister occult. I don't know if Schopenhauer managed to pull vegetarianism off or not, but Wagner failed after attempting to. Vegeterianism at the time of Wagner was being viewed in that era as fashionable and interesting, but it seems few could stay with it.

[eternal_spirit]

And or either (usual with Hitler lol)

Hinduism/Buddhism (Swastika) vegetarianism

[anthony65]

Nah, Hitler was probably just trying to follow another vegetarianism wannabe, Richard Wagner, who wanted to be vegetarian because of his interest in the writings of Arthur Schopenhauer who adopted certain Oriental ideas into his writings. Oriental as in Vedanta and Buddhist, rather than anything particularly sisnister occult. I don't know if Schopenhauer managed to pull vegetarianism off or not, but Wagner failed after attempting to. Vegeterianism at the time of Wagner was being viewed in that era as fashionable and interesting, but it seems few could stay with it.

I wouldn't dismiss it so easily...

A search for vegetarianism occult in google gets you a theosophy site...

http://www.singaporelodge.org/medveg.htm

Theosophy was mentioned in the Illuminati News link I posted earlier in this thread.

Madame Blavatksy opened up a new esoteric can of worms.

Don't you take the occult aspect of the Nazi's seriously?

They certainly did!

[eternal_spirit]

Interesting thread about Blavatsky/Hitler etc
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56065

[eternal_spirit]

Some say Hitler was going to replace the Bible in schools with his own book Mein Kamph :D

[anthony65]

Interesting thread about Blavatsky/Hitler etc
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56065

Thanks! :)

[eternal_spirit]

Interesting thread about Blavatsky/Hitler etc
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56065

quote Blavatsky
Occult philosophy teaches that even now, under our very eyes, the new Race and Races are preparing to be formed, and that it is in America that the transformation will take place, and has already silently commenced. Pure Anglo-Saxons hardly three hundred years ago, the Americans of the United States have already become a nation apart, and, owing to a strong admixture of various nationalities and inter-marriage, almost a race sui generis, not only mentally, but also physically...Thus the Americans have become in only three centuries a “primary race,” pro tem., before becoming a race apart, and strongly separated from all other now existing races. They are, in short, the germs of the Sixth sub-race, and in some few hundred years more, will become most decidedly the pioneers of that race which must succeed to the present European or fifth sub-race, in all its new characteristics. (Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-25.htm )

end quote

She sees it as a mixing of different races (the new man/human)

Lobsang Rampa (Buddhist Lama) also wrote that the new man/race will be known as the race of TAN (which he also says relates to their skin colour) which will be neither white nor black but something inbetween.

Theosophy/Blavatsky etc where influenced also by Buddhism. The whole caste system thing is Hinduism.

[devanshoom]

the way the man has been demonized by the media , you can only make one conclusion

The story of Hitler you are told everyday is a lie

do your own research, start digging deep and what you find will change you I promise

i have no idea about hitler...i just know i dont like the way he rants on stage......looks off his fucking head to me

[flickflack]

Some say Hitler was going to replace the Bible in schools with his own book Mein Kamph :D

There is actually some truth to that. Hitler believed that his political manifesto was more important for the German people than the Gospels.

[cafetimes1991]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4

I love that video. :)

[void]

I wouldn't dismiss it so easily...

A search for vegetarianism occult in google gets you a theosophy site...

Well, yes it would if you put in "Vegetarianism occult" into a search engine :o

I've not eaten meat 10 years, and I don't use that for occult reasons.

Non meat diet is mostly something born in Jainism, which then influenced the once meat eating Hinduism later on, which then became an 'ideal' in Tibetan Buddhism (I say an ideal because meat and animal products played quite a large part in the diet even in old Tibet, with them using Muslims to slaughter animals on the outskirts of citys and towns, to dodge the tricky issue of Karmic collection, just like the more secular Muslims drink beer and says it's ok because the Hadiths were referring to Wine being sinful). Non meat diet is often used in 'path's (Yogic, etc), but is a bit of a distraction in itself when all that becomes something to revolve around. Realization has occured in people who ate red meat all their life, because body/mind has very little to do with realization at the end of the day. Just, a non meat diet appears to settle energy and mental aspects more than a largely meat diet. Tibetan Buddhism certainly is more Occult-ish than other forms of Buddhism, due to the major influence of Shamanic Bon in the region on its final expression. But if Hitler felt that Wagner adopting Schopenhauer's adoption of Buddhist ideas was related to Tibetan Buddhism, I don't think so. Ideas that Schopenhauer adopted from Buddhism really don't fit the esoteric Tibetan type of Buddhism, nor did his ideas lean at all towards the triumph of the will and earthly conquest thrust of the Nazis. Nor did Wagner's later operas, which Nazis like Goebbles tried to surpress the existence of, for this very reason.

Dem nazis were a muddled lot, and appear to have misread a lot of people.

Madame Blavatksy opened up a new esoteric can of worms.

Indeed. I wouldn't dispute that. :)

Don't you take the occult aspect of the Nazi's seriously?

I do, but more on Himmler's side really. The 1930s Tibet expeditions, etc.
Himmler was the occult nut in the Nazis,if you ask me. Rather than Hitler.

[adbasque]

I do, but more on Himmler's side really. The 1930s Tibet expeditions, etc.
Himmler was the occult nut in the Nazis,if you ask me. Rather than Hitler.

Yes HImmler was the engine behind the Nazi machine, his role was similar to Dick Cheney's
I am sure he was higher in the Elite's hierarchy just like Cheney is today