View Full Version : Britain expels 4 Russian diplomats
freedomiswithinyou
17-07-2007, 03:30 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6901346.stm
The UK is to expel four Russian diplomats in response to Moscow's refusal to extradite the prime suspect in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.
Foreign Secretary David Miliband also said co-operation with Russia on a range of issues was under review.
Prosecutors want Andrei Lugovoi, an ex-KGB officer, to face trial in the UK. He denies involvement.
Moscow condemned the UK's position as "immoral" and said the expulsions would have "serious consequences". [B]
But Prime Minister Gordon Brown said he had "no apologies for the action we have taken" in expelling the diplomats.
Speaking on a visit to Berlin, he said he wanted good relations with Russia but also said people would understand that when a prosecuting authority made it clear what was in the interests of justice and there was no co-operation, "then action has to be taken."
Former KGB agent Mr Litvinenko died of exposure to radioactive polonium-210 in London in November 2006.
The Foreign Office has not named the four Russian diplomats, but the BBC understands they are intelligence officers.
Mr Miliband told MPs Russia was an important ally and the situation was one that Britain had "not sought and does not welcome".
But he said it was necessary to send a "clear and proportionate signal" to Russia, about the seriousness with which Britain regarded the matter.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
A problem-reaction-solution if I ever saw one. Looks like the West and Russia will go to war pretty soon. Obviously we can stop it all now if we want to it's just that most people on this planet are too fucking doped up.
hagbard_celine
17-07-2007, 06:02 PM
Now if I had to build a space defence system to shoot down UFO's, which was enormously expensive, and I cannot tell people what it's really for... how would I go about it? How could I justify the amount of money it cost?
:rolleyes::cool:
december
17-07-2007, 07:45 PM
Now if I had to build a space defence system to shoot down UFO's, which was enormously expensive, and I cannot tell people what it's really for... how would I go about it? How could I justify the amount of money it cost?
:rolleyes::cool:
So, the US actually builds a missile defence system IN POLAND to shoot down UFO? :D
Is that what people in "Great" Britain think? :D
I will copy your post, hagbard_celine...
december
17-07-2007, 09:44 PM
Now if I had to build a space defence system to shoot down UFO's, which was enormously expensive, and I cannot tell people what it's really for... how would I go about it? How could I justify the amount of money it cost?
:rolleyes::cool:
So now we know WHY Russia is protesting deployment of a U.S. missile shield in Europe - IT IS BECAUSE VLADIMIR PUTIN LIKES TO FLY INSIDE THE UFO!
:D :D
http://davidgaw.typepad.com/cuzwesaidso/putin_2Dmissl_small.jpg
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/ufo11.jpg
Putin says missile tests were response to NATO's actions
31/ 05/ 2007
MOSCOW, May 31 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's president said Thursday his country's recent tests of new ballistic missiles and possible withdrawal from an arms control treaty are a direct response to harsh, unreasonable actions by NATO countries.
Speaking at a news conference after meeting with the Greek president in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin said Russia did not initiate the new wave of an international arms race, and condemned the planned deployment of a U.S. missile shield in Europe, and the development of new military bases on the continent.
"There is no need to fear Russia's actions, they are not aggressive... They are aimed at maintaining balance in the world order, and are extremely important for maintaining peace and security globally," Putin said.
Russia conducted successful tests this week of a new ballistic missile with MIRV and a cruise missile allegedly capable of penetrating any operational and future missile defenses.
"We conducted a test of a new strategic ballistic missile with multiple warheads, and of a new cruise missile, and will continue to improve our resources," Putin said.
The president suggested recently that Moscow might suspend its obligations under the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty if talks with NATO countries on its implementation show no visible progress.
No NATO members have yet ratified the re-drafted CFE pact, demanding that Russia first withdraw from Soviet-era bases in Georgia and Moldova under previous agreements.
Russia, concerned over Europe's refusal to ratify the re-drafted version of the accord, and acceptance by certain EU states of U.S. missile shield plans on the continent, proposed on Monday holding an emergency CFE conference in Vienna on June 12-15.
"We are fully observing the provisions of the [CFE] treaty and have pulled out all heavy weaponry from the European part of Russia. We have reduced our armed forces by 300,000 personnel in the past few years, but what about our partners?" Putin said.
"They are inundating eastern Europe with new weapons - a new base in Bulgaria, another base in Romania, a [missile interceptor] site in Poland, a radar in the Czech Republic," the president said. "What are we supposed to do? We cannot just observe all this and continue to keep our obligations under the treaty."
Putin also stressed that the United States unilaterally withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002, paving the way to the deployment of its missile shield in Europe.
"Our American partners have left the ABM Treaty," he said. "We warned them then that we would take measures in response, to maintain the global strategic balance."
The U.S. plans to deploy a missile defense radar in the Czech Republic and 10 interceptor missiles in Poland as part of its European missile shield allegedly against "rogue" states, such as Iran and North Korea.
Since Washington announced the plans earlier this year, Russia has vehemently opposed the deployment, citing its own national security concerns. Some of Russia's top generals hinted that the bases, if opened, could be targeted by Russian missiles.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070531/66418953.html
girthgirl
17-07-2007, 11:35 PM
Why are all the papers showing Putin in military wear like a dictator?
he,s certainly not the villian in my eyes like the press want us to believe..
Im totaly on his side on this one and im from the United Kingdom.
Who the feck is that YES MAN David Milliband??????:eek:
cleopatraxxx
18-07-2007, 12:21 AM
.... :(((
if Humanity didnt like to be ignorant we wouldnt be in this mess of constant wars...
i see WWIII soon, are they playing up predictions? is Planet X so close they have to distract us with bloody pre-war stuff???
all i know is tat whenever anything serious is about to happen, UFO´s news pop-up, yes, like a distraction source... not that i don´t believe in their existence...
whatever,
anyway, on the topic of tensions between GB and Russia, i would like to ask
what does an ordinary russian worker living right now in the UK will have to do in case diplomatic relations get cut and vice-versa for a british citizen living in russia, maybe married to a russian?
i mean, obviously assasinations always existed, on any ground, this is not enough to cut whatever relations between countries!
PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION is obviously at play here and to me it has more to deal with missiles and the North Pole gas resources as well as Middle East control, not to talk about the missile defensive systems that AGAIN envolves not any normal human beeing´s decsions nor wishes. how many people are worried with missiles? who spends nghts thinking baout those? an ordinary baker¿ maybe a traffic policeman? or a school teacher?
Life on this planet sucks to the last degree...
How long the sheeple will be sheeple???????????????
Do sheeple want to open their eyes at all?
whatevere i am writing here...i hope it makes sense...
sad i am for planet Earths inhabitants
peachped
18-07-2007, 01:08 AM
.... :(((
if Humanity didnt like to be ignorant we wouldnt be in this mess of constant wars...
i see WWIII soon, are they playing up predictions? is Planet X so close they have to distract us with bloody pre-war stuff???
all i know is tat whenever anything serious is about to happen, UFO´s news pop-up, yes, like a distraction source... not that i don´t believe in their existence...
whatever,
anyway, on the topic of tensions between GB and Russia, i would like to ask
what does an ordinary russian worker living right now in the UK will have to do in case diplomatic relations get cut and vice-versa for a british citizen living in russia, maybe married to a russian?
i mean, obviously assasinations always existed, on any ground, this is not enough to cut whatever relations between countries!
PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION is obviously at play here and to me it has more to deal with missiles and the North Pole gas resources as well as Middle East control, not to talk about the missile defensive systems that AGAIN envolves not any normal human beeing´s decsions nor wishes. how many people are worried with missiles? who spends nghts thinking baout those? an ordinary baker¿ maybe a traffic policeman? or a school teacher?
Life on this planet sucks to the last degree...
How long the sheeple will be sheeple???????????????
Do sheeple want to open their eyes at all?
whatevere i am writing here...i hope it makes sense...
sad i am for planet Earths inhabitants
A lot of us are thinking the same things I would have thought.
One thing that bothers me is wether Putin is reacting against US agression or is he part of a NWO plot to start WWIII?
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/8/5/3/12623580-12623583-slarge.jpg
hagbard_celine
18-07-2007, 10:15 AM
So now we know WHY Russia is protesting deployment of a U.S. missile shield in Europe - IT IS BECAUSE VLADIMIR PUTIN LIKES TO FLY INSIDE THE UFO!
:D :D
http://davidgaw.typepad.com/cuzwesaidso/putin_2Dmissl_small.jpg
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/ufo11.jpg
I don't doubt that he pops down to Kapustin Yar for a spin every now and again! :D
The missile shield may well have a duel purpose. It's certainly capable of doing exactly what we've been told it's for. But, like its 80's predecessor, Star Wars, it might have another prupose: protecting the Earth against UFO attack. There's evidence that such weapons are already in use in a limited capacity. It serves the interests of both Russia and the West to stir up a political cauldron in order to brew this expensive concoction.
december
19-07-2007, 03:56 AM
Why are all the papers showing Putin in military wear like a dictator?
he,s certainly not the villian in my eyes like the press want us to believe..
Im totaly on his side on this one and im from the United Kingdom.
Who the feck is that YES MAN David Milliband??????:eek:
Girthgirl, I think the Western media still wants to play the Cold War game.... so, they want you to see what they want you to see...
In other words, you see the news from Russia through THEIR eyes...
However, there is defferent Putin, of course....
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/putin.jpg
"Russian President Vladimir Putin executes a throw on a Japanese Judo student during a visit to a Sports Center in Gushikawa, Okinawa, Japan, July 23, 2000. He then allowed himself to be thrown onto the mat. After concluding a final round of talks with other world leaders on global issues, Putin visited the sports center and removed his jacket and shoes for light matches with several Gushikawa students. Putin, 47, told the assembled young Judo fans to persevere with their sport because it brought people together."
http://www.judoinfo.com/announce.htm
Russian President Putin Gets Honorary Black Belt
2001.02.27 17:47:47
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021005/w4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/5160/Putin/judo2.jpg
SEOUL, February 27 (Xinhuanet) -- The head of the International Judo Federation (IJF) Tuesday awarded Russian President Vladimir Putin an honorary seventh grade black belt during his visit to Seoul.
IJF president Park Yong-Sung made the award during a luncheon with South Korean business leaders. Park is also chairman of the Korean Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
Putin, who began judo at the age of 11, has written a book on the sport.
http://202.84.17.11/english/htm/20010227/378780.htm
http://ochevidec.net/pic/story/141/1.jpg
Putin for U.S. President 2008!
http://www.stanislavorlov.com/index.php/2006/11/10/putin-for-us-president-2008/
http://english.eastday.com/eastday/englishedition/node20665/node20668/node22810/node124488/node124489/images/00608185.jpg
peachped
19-07-2007, 04:17 AM
Nice comb over :D
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/putin.jpg