Eyes Wide Shut - Ritual Theme Backwards

[truthseeker_]

Now, as some of you may or may not know the audio from big ritual scens in eyes wide shut was played backwards.
As I have came to find ouy later on was that on the reversed version of this audio, the ritual is in Romanian!

Does anyone have the any idea at all of why Kubrick choose and Romanian religious chant for this ritual scene?

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k)

[size_of_light]

Does anyone here speak Romanian?

That would be a good place to start.

[cafetimes1991]

This film freaked me out when I was younger. Well, the scene I saw did anyway...

[ianw]

Now, as some of you may or may not know the audio from big ritual scens in eyes wide shut was played backwards.
As I have came to find ouy later on was that on the reversed version of this audio, the ritual is in Romanian!

Does anyone have the any idea at all of why Kubrick choose and Romanian religious chant for this ritual scene?

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k)

Not got a clue.So I checked out the related vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZLPwWt_IM&feature=related

The christmas tree being compared to the triangle and eye jumped out at me.I dont think that subliminal stops there,Its a representation of the pineal gland third eye.Which is often represented by a pine cone.Art work of the pineal often shows a cone shape covered with small eyes.So we have a trianglelar cone bearing tree covered with lights,that we fetch in the house every christmass,because it looks nice.Talk about Eyes wide shut.

[size_of_light]

So we have a trianglelar cone bearing tree covered with lights,that we fetch in the house every christmass,because it looks nice.

And we make a big ceremony out of lifting up a little kid to hang the star at the top of the trianglular tree to make it complete.

[michael christopher]

I love the imagery in that film, however I think the ending is ridiculous. I mean, I guess people would just be happy to know they escaped that crazy nightmare with their lives intact, but honestly, it seems more like a warning to people who are too curious. I know the original ending was different and that it WAS complete before Stanley Kubrick died, but they changed the ending after he died. Does anyone know what the original ending was?

[ianw]

And we make a big ceremony out of lifting up a little kid to hang the star at the top of the trianglular tree to make it complete.

I always thought it a bit odd fetching a tree into the house,I thought I just solved the mystery.Then you put the iceing on the cake so to speak.Is there more to this?tell me what you know:)

[size_of_light]

I always thought it a bit odd fetching a tree into the house,I thought I just solved the mystery.Then you put the iceing on the cake so to speak.Is there more to this?tell me what you know:)

Never really thought about it till you mentioned it.

Come to think of it, does seem a bit odd that Dad and I were compelled to sneak around at night once a year with a chainsaw in the back of the ute looking for suitable trees on the side of the road to murder and steal under the cover of darkness.

[655321]

http://arxidamos.pa-sy-a.gr/2009/04/10/01-00/order_out_of_chaos.jpg

Illuminatus Rex from Eyes Wide Shut:

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/eyes.jpg

The “Rex” in Illuminati Rex, is, of course, a reference to the final degree of the Illuminati - Rex or Man-King (Docetist; Docetengrad). ...

[darketernal]

I discussed the masked ball scene a bit in this thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62023

[cleft_asunder]

Now, as some of you may or may not know the audio from big ritual scens in eyes wide shut was played backwards.
As I have came to find ouy later on was that on the reversed version of this audio, the ritual is in Romanian!

Does anyone have the any idea at all of why Kubrick choose and Romanian religious chant for this ritual scene?

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k)

Well I'm romanian but I don't speak it too well anymore so I can't tell you what the lyrics are. But maybe the language signifies that those in the ritual are possessed by vampires, as Transylvania (Romania) is the home of Dracula. Vampires are a spin-off of demons/reptilians. Hungaria was the home of Elizabeth bathory, who killed over 600 people. She was likely possessed by a demon, or she was a demon.

[hellosatellites]

Well I'm romanian but I don't speak it too well anymore so I can't tell you what the lyrics are. But maybe the language signifies that those in the ritual are possessed by vampires, as Transylvania (Romania) is the home of Dracula. Vampires are a spin-off of demons/reptilians. Hungaria was the home of Elizabeth bathory, who killed over 600 people. She was likely possessed by a demon, or she was a demon.

That makes sense. The link to transylvania, dracula and human sacrifice and the worship of blood/lust.

[cleft_asunder]

This is what one poster writes:

This is the ORIGINAL Romanian language Byzantine Liturgy.
It is IN the movie that the original was played backwards, to demonstrate Satanic opposition to God-Christ.
Extremelly well done symbolically, mystically, content and context wise.
That's why they killed the movie director; he said and showed too much of Satanic rituals...
God rest his soul!

[cleft_asunder]

That makes sense. The link to transylvania, dracula and human sacrifice and the worship of blood/lust.

Yes, I would think so.

[hellosatellites]

When Kubrick died, for some reason the british journalist Jon Ronson was invited to go through his office. Kubrick was totally diligent about research, he left nothing to chance, no detail in his work is a coincidence. Ronsons finds make for a very fascinating ( and entertaining) read in his book Out Of The Ordinary. The chapter is Citizen Kubrick.

[darketernal]

When Kubrick died, for some reason the british journalist Jon Ronson was invited to go through his office. Kubrick was totally diligent about research, he left nothing to chance, no detail in his work is a coincidence. Ronsons finds make for a very fascinating ( and entertaining) read in his book Out Of The Ordinary. The chapter is Citizen Kubrick.

Eyes Wide Shut was a masterpiece. He worked in brotherhood symbolism into every scene, every female actress in the entire movie was bloodline (I cannot speak for the males because I cannot tell as easily), every color, symbol and scene of the movie was carefully selected.

The ritual was only accurate in the first part however, which I broke down in the other thread a bit.

[size_of_light]

Eyes Wide Shut was a masterpiece. He worked in brotherhood symbolism into every scene, every female actress in the entire movie was bloodline

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Back it up...beep...beep...beep....

Bloodline actresses? :eek:

[hellosatellites]

Eyes Wide Shut was a masterpiece. He worked in brotherhood symbolism into every scene, every female actress in the entire movie was bloodline (I cannot speak for the males because I cannot tell as easily), every color, symbol and scene of the movie was carefully selected.

The ritual was only accurate in the first part however, which I broke down in the other thread a bit.

I haven't seen it (the movie), but i trust it is an exercise in near-perfection on the basis of having read about Kubricks work methods. Anal was the word i first wrote in my post, then changed it to diligent. Respect for the dead and all that.

[14april2000]

http://www.youreyeswideshut.com/

[darketernal]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Back it up...beep...beep...beep....

Bloodline actresses? :eek:

Every female in the movie was. Yes.

[darketernal]

I haven't seen it (the movie), but i trust it is an exercise in near-perfection on the basis of having read about Kubricks work methods. Anal was the word i first wrote in my post, then changed it to diligent. Respect for the dead and all that.

I have an HD torrent of it.

[14april2000]

Every female in the movie was. Yes.

Was every actresses in every scene Bloodline?

[darketernal]

Was every actresses in every scene Bloodline?

I answered yes to this already. I have a talent for picking them out across a room... its in my genetics to do so.

[size_of_light]

Every female in the movie was. Yes.

Nicole Kidman? Leelee Sobieski? And all those other minor roles (no idea who they were)?

How do you know this DE?

Particularly interested in what you know about Nicole Kidman since I consider her grotesquely-tightening face a demonic work in progress.

[hellosatellites]

I have an HD torrent of it.

The movie, or respect for the dead?

[darketernal]

Nicole Kidman? Leelee Sobieski? And all those other minor roles (no idea who they were)?

How do you know this DE?

Particularly interested in what you know about Nicole Kidman since I consider her grotesquely-tightening face a demonic work in progress.

I already answered it. I can sense females with these genetics, for me it is something I just know instinctively most of the time.

The movie, or respect for the dead?

The movie.

[14april2000]

I answered yes to this already. I have a talent for picking them out across a room... its in my genetics to do so.

Fullblood bloodlines?

Is Tom Cruise also bloodline? if yes is he Fullblood? He was marry to Nicole Kidman and he has children with he - i mean Bloodlines only marry bloodlines because they have to keep there dna unbroken.

[darketernal]

Fullblood bloodlines?

Is Tom Cruise also bloodline? if yes is he Fullblood? He was marry to Nicole Kidman and he has children with he - i mean Bloodlines only marry bloodlines because they have to keep there dna unbroken.

No some of them were from deluted lines, but they all carried some of the genetics. I do not know if Tom Cruise is for certain, but it would be logical that he is. Nicole clearly is, and has very strong genetics. Yummy.

[jojo]

I already answered it. I can sense females with these genetics, for me it is something I just know instinctively most of the time.


I now what you mean, Kubricks women have a certain look about them. not just slim, but a very specific air or grace.... if you know what I mean.

[jorjel]

I know what is says. It is a passage from an orthodox funeral service. I`m from Romania. It`s freaky. I mean it.

[14april2000]

No some of them were from deluted lines, but they all carried some of the genetics. I do not know if Tom Cruise is for certain, but it would be logical that he is. Nicole clearly is, and has very strong genetics. Yummy.

I heard yestoday that he is not bloodline at all - but that don`t make much sense to me at all.

Cot you spot bloodlines from photos i have of my friends and people i socialize with?

[darketernal]

I heard yestoday that he is not bloodline at all - but that don`t make much sense to me at all.

Cot you spot bloodlines from photos i have of my friends and people i socialize with?

Probably the females, however this is not something I prefer to sit around and do. It has less importance than you might think, in your day to day life. This sort of thing can quickly reak of a witch-hunt mentality. ;)

[14april2000]

Probably the females, however this is not something I prefer to sit around and do. It has less importance than you might think, in your day to day life. This sort of thing can quickly reak of a witch-hunt mentality. ;)

I have no to wish to start a witch-hunt on any person i know just because they
have Royal Lineage. Regardless of there family background - they will still be my friends and i will still socialize with them.

[jorjel]

OK, here the romanian text:"Zisa Domnul catre ucenicii sai...Porunca noua dau voua...Domnului sa ne rugam pentru mila, viata, pacea, sanatatea, mantuirea, cercetarea, lasarea si iertarea pacatelor robilor lui Dumnezeu. Inchinatori, miluitori si binefacatori ai sfantului lacasului acestuia. "

and now i will try to translate :

"The Lord said to His discoples... New order I give you...Let`s pray for the mercy, life, peace, healthy, redemption and sin forgiveness of God`s slaves. Worshipers, mercyfull and benefactors of this holly sanctuary"

I hope it`s ok.

Cheers

[hunter77]

No some of them were from deluted lines, but they all carried some of the genetics. I do not know if Tom Cruise is for certain, but it would be logical that he is. Nicole clearly is, and has very strong genetics. Yummy.

doesn't tom cruise share the same blood line as bashful, doc, dopey, sleepy, sneezy,happy and grumpy:p:D

[darketernal]

doesn't tom cruise share the same blood line as bashful, doc, dopey, sleepy, sneezy,happy and grumpy:p:D

:confused: ??? hunter, you lost me on this one. Care to explain?

[hunter77]

:confused: ??? hunter, you lost me on this one. Care to explain?

the severn dwarfs:D ( on the account he's a short arse):D or perhaps an umpa lumpa

[hellosatellites]

OK, here the romanian text:"Zisa Domnul catre ucenicii sai...Porunca noua dau voua...Domnului sa ne rugam pentru mila, viata, pacea, sanatatea, mantuirea, cercetarea, lasarea si iertarea pacatelor robilor lui Dumnezeu. Inchinatori, miluitori si binefacatori ai sfantului lacasului acestuia. "

and now i will try to translate :

"The Lord said to His discoples... New order I give you...Let`s pray for the mercy, life, peace, healthy, redemption and sin forgiveness of God`s slaves. Worshipers, mercyfull and benefactors of this holly sanctuary"

I hope it`s ok

Cheers

Well done. It's very interesting

Do you know if this ritual - and this wording - is what is normally used in funerals in romania?

cheers :)

[lightgiver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk-BT1PGJbQ

Romanian Chant (In the movie, it is played backwards. Here are the normal version, backwards version and translation)

Normal Version

Zisa Domnului catre ucenicii sai...Porunca noua dau voua...Domnului sa ne rugam pentru mila, viata, pacea, sanatatea, mantuirea, cercetarea, lasarea si iertarea pacatelor robilor lui Dumnezeu. Inchinatori, miluitori si binefacatori ai sfantului lacasului acestuia.

Backwards Version

Auov uad auon acnurop ias iicinecu ertac iulunmod asiz... Aiutseca iulusacal iulutnafs ia irotacafenib is irotiulim irotanihcni.
Uezenmud iul rolibor roletacap aeratrei is aerasal aeratecrec aeriutnam aetatanas aecap ataiv alim urtnep magur en as iulunmod. Auov uad auon acnurop ias iicinecu ertac iulunmod asiz...

Pray from India

Parithranaya Saadhunam Vinashaya cha dushkrithaam Dharmasamsthabanarth aya Sambhavami yuge yuge

Translation

And God told to his apprentices...I gave you a command...to pray to the Lord for the mercy, life, peace, health, salvation, the search, the leave and the forgiveness of the sins of God's children. The ones that pray, they have mercy and they take good care of this holy place.

When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do.

William blake.

[cleft_asunder]

Eyes Wide Shut was a masterpiece. He worked in brotherhood symbolism into every scene, every female actress in the entire movie was bloodline (I cannot speak for the males because I cannot tell as easily), every color, symbol and scene of the movie was carefully selected.

The ritual was only accurate in the first part however, which I broke down in the other thread a bit.

I don't get it. Was Kubrick bloodline, or did he discover the conspiracy and was then silenced for revealing too much to the world through this movie?

[darketernal]

I don't get it. Was Kubrick bloodline, or did he discover the conspiracy and was then silenced for revealing too much to the world through this movie?

He was bloodline. He was sacrificed for breaking his oaths, and saying things in the movie he should not have. It was not showing part of a ritual, as this was fairly tame and just the first part of one... it was for telling people to open their eyes to everything that goes on around them and just out of sight... and for saying who attends such rituals. I believe he would still be alive today if he had not included the dialog with the men talking over the pool table near the end.

[jorjel]

Well, theese words, this ritual is very used in orthodox ritual also in funeral, and every sunday in the most important ceremony, the Lithurgy. I also wonder why kubrik has chosen theese words. Very interesting.

[lightgiver]

You reckoned DE in another post you did not know because it was just a movie:confused:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62023&page=13

Post 126 What are the goals of that particular ritual? I don't know, its a movie,

all the info you are mentioning can be found on the web.

[cleft_asunder]

OK, here the romanian text:"Zisa Domnul catre ucenicii sai...Porunca noua dau voua...Domnului sa ne rugam pentru mila, viata, pacea, sanatatea, mantuirea, cercetarea, lasarea si iertarea pacatelor robilor lui Dumnezeu. Inchinatori, miluitori si binefacatori ai sfantului lacasului acestuia. "

and now i will try to translate :

"The Lord said to His discoples... New order I give you...Let`s pray for the mercy, life, peace, healthy, redemption and sin forgiveness of God`s slaves. Worshipers, mercyfull and benefactors of this holly sanctuary"

I hope it`s ok.

Cheers

Thanks mate.

[lightgiver]

Thanks mate.

You can get it of u tube mate. check post 39.

[hellosatellites]

Well, theese words, this ritual is very used in orthodox ritual also in funeral, and every sunday in the most important ceremony, the Lithurgy. I also wonder why kubrik has chosen theese words. Very interesting.

It really is very interesting. Do the church goers take part in this ritual...? What actually takes place during the reciting of the words?

You don't mind being our official romanian religious rituals expert for a bit do you :)

[darketernal]

You reckoned DE in another post you did not know because it was just a movie:confused:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62023&page=13

Post 126 What are the goals of that particular ritual? I don't know, its a movie,

all the info you are mentioning can be found on the web.


Fair enough, there are a lot of other people who know what I do about these subjects, so it is no surprise that similar info is on the web.

The reason I said in the other thread that the purpose cannt be known of the ritual in the movie was because it was in a hollywood movie, and the entire ritual, and the focus of the ritual was not shown. This is just like when in a movie you see someone at an atm machine pulling out $1000 cash (again a form of energy) and you are told nothing of what he plans on doing with the money previously and it does not come back up in the story, it is only speculation what he might have done with it, especially considering it was part of a movie and not a real cash withdrawl.

There simply is no way to know based on what was shown in the ritual to draw clues as to what it was used for, other than trying to calculate some date based on the pattern he selected the women in, however if you notice in different clips from around the room they change positions around the room a couple times, which would make even doing that a nightmare, and numerology and astrology are not my strong points. ;)

[jorjel]

It really is very interesting. Do the church goers take part in this ritual...? What actually takes place during the reciting of the words?

You don't mind being our official romanian religious rituals expert for a bit do you :)

Well, actually there is no problem. In fact, I know a little bit about orthodox ritual. Especially in this part of ritual, nothing very important is happening. Theese words are part of ectenia, a repetitive chant during the lithurgy, where all the people are asking God for peace, love, mercy. This is why I`m curious why Kubrik has chosen theese specific words for the ritual in the movie.

[lightgiver]

Fair enough, there are a lot of other people who know what I do about these subjects, so it is no surprise that similar info is on the web.

The reason I said in the other thread that the purpose cannt be known of the ritual in the movie was because it was in a hollywood movie, and the entire ritual, and the focus of the ritual was not shown. This is just like when in a movie you see someone at an atm machine pulling out $1000 cash (again a form of energy) and you are told nothing of what he plans on doing with the money previously and it does not come back up in the story, it is only speculation what he might have done with it, especially considering it was part of a movie and not a real cash withdrawl.

There simply is no way to know based on what was shown in the ritual to draw clues as to what it was used for, other than trying to calculate some date based on the pattern he selected the women in, however if you notice in different clips from around the room they change positions around the room a couple times, which would make even doing that a nightmare, and numerology and astrology are not my strong points. ;)

But if you have taken part in these rituels they should be your strong point,should they not?

and if kubrick was killed or taken out because of this movie,then that proves it is a lot more than just a movie.

Your cash analogy is a bit confusing BTW.

[cleft_asunder]

Well, actually there is no problem. In fact, I know a little bit about orthodox ritual. Especially in this part of ritual, nothing very important is happening. Theese words are part of ectenia, a repetitive chant during the lithurgy, where all the people are asking God for peace, love, mercy. This is why I`m curious why Kubrik has chosen theese specific words for the ritual in the movie.

Yes but it was played backwards, representing the opposite of those things. The equivelant of wearing the cross upside down.

[lightgiver]

Well, actually there is no problem. In fact, I know a little bit about orthodox ritual. Especially in this part of ritual, nothing very important is happening. Theese words are part of ectenia, a repetitive chant during the lithurgy, where all the people are asking God for peace, love, mercy. This is why I`m curious why Kubrik has chosen theese specific words for the ritual in the movie.

a comment from u tube,

Romanian. It's a prayer played backwards, thus referring to the inversion of symbols, which is typical of Satanism.

[jorjel]

Yes but it was played backwards, representing the opposite of those things. The equivelant of wearing the cross upside down.

I think it`s all about the opposite of mercy, peace, love, salvation.

[lightgiver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj7Hw6OnbH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZU0w4A5i4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HldZ_AAliE

cloud cuckoo land is coming to mind on here with some.

and I have had to edit these vids 4 times???

[cleft_asunder]

I think it`s all about the opposite of mercy, peace, love, salvation.

Well that's what I said.

[jorjel]

My curiosity is about Kubrik connection with orthodox rituals. He could simply choose some catholic ritual, or protestant. But why orthodox? This is my big question. The byzantine rituals are very profound, very deep. I`m thinking about some connection between the elite and orthodox church?

[14april2000]

He was bloodline. He was sacrificed for breaking his oaths, and saying things in the movie he should not have. It was not showing part of a ritual, as this was fairly tame and just the first part of one... it was for telling people to open their eyes to everything that goes on around them and just out of sight... and for saying who attends such rituals. I believe he would still be alive today if he had not included the dialog with the men talking over the pool table near the end.

So why does Time Warner the biggest brotherhod motion picture studio in the world produced his movie - if they don`t want people to know who attends such rituals? That don`t make any sense to me - they had to know that dialog was included in his movie?

Maybe the sacrificing of him was plan befor he was born or at least since he was born - like they did with Princesses Diana?

[hellosatellites]

My curiosity is about Kubrik connection with orthodox rituals. He could simply choose some catholic ritual, or protestant. But why orthodox? This is my big question. The byzantine rituals are very profound, very deep. I`m thinking about some connection between the elite and orthodox church?

Istanbul now....Constantinople then.
Links to Rome.
Also via Byzantium/Greece, links to the ancient Egypt.

Need to retire...look forward to returning to this thread and see where it goes.

[darketernal]

But if you have taken part in these rituels they should be your strong point,should they not?

and if kubrick was killed or taken out because of this movie,then that proves it is a lot more than just a movie.

Your cash analogy is a bit confusing BTW.

What is confusing about it? Cash is a representatin of energy, granted it only has the meaning we give it, but it represent energy. It can purchase products, services etc of a wide variety.

The ritual shown there is very generic, and the opening sequince of to other rituals, to focus energy into a purpose. We are not shown the entire ritual in the movie, and given no clues as to the purpose, therefore anyone other than Stanley Kubric, who is dead and cannot speak, who tells you they know the purpose of the ritual in the movie and what the energy was used for, is not being honest with you. There is no way to determine that from what was shown.

[darketernal]

So why does Time Warner the biggest brotherhod motion picture studio in the world produced his movie - if they don`t want people to know who attends such rituals? That don`t make any sense to me - they had to know that dialog was included in his movie?

Maybe the sacrificing of him was plan befor he was born or at least since he was born - like they did with Princesses Diana?

You make the assumption there is only one faction within the system, no infighting, assassinations based on the finer points of the violation of rules. Now everyone who works for a movie studio involved with the production of it is "Illuminati" or in the know. Parts of scripts could be written with the impression permissions had been granted to release information until a movie actually on the final reel. It could be as simple as he did not YET have permission to release something in a movie and did so while it was still be debated, or another faction within the brotherhood took offense, or a single powerful individual did... and used this is a basis to kill him without reprecussion.

Those within this system kill each other all the time, and as long as it is done so within the rules and traditions, it is acceptable. Often those rules allow someone to actually comit the offense that will get them killed prior to taking action against them if their status or value is high enough. Everything is done within the confines of ritual, tradition and rules.

[lightgiver]

What is confusing about it? Cash is a representatin of energy, granted it only has the meaning we give it, but it represent energy. It can purchase products, services etc of a wide variety.

The ritual shown there is very generic, and the opening sequince of to other rituals, to focus energy into a purpose. We are not shown the entire ritual in the movie, and given no clues as to the purpose, therefore anyone other than Stanley Kubric, who is dead and cannot speak, who tells you they know the purpose of the ritual in the movie and what the energy was used for, is not being honest with you. There is no way to determine that from what was shown.

You brought money and cash machines into the equation,we are all aware of moneys power.

I was asking of your experience,seeing you said you have attended.

You and a few others on here appear to dodge lots of questions in my book,just trying to find out peoples authenticity in a world of conspiracy's and Psych ops.

[lightgiver]

My curiosity is about Kubrik connection with orthodox rituals. He could simply choose some catholic ritual, or protestant. But why orthodox? This is my big question. The byzantine rituals are very profound, very deep. I`m thinking about some connection between the elite and orthodox church?

Rituals of Royalty: Power and Ceremonial in Traditional Societies

http://books.google.fr/books?id=foaituObjPQC&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=byzantine+rituals&source=bl&ots=QFrj0iN0SH&sig=HvIsfEkdv-DpoV4u25qbDs9MqtU&hl=en&ei=2NL0Sd_cJ8SgjAei0s3ODA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA113,M1

http://books.google.fr/books?id=foaituObjPQC&pg=PA20&dq=byzantine+rituals&hl=en&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=0_0#PPA23,M1

[14april2000]

You make the assumption there is only one faction within the system, no infighting, assassinations based on the finer points of the violation of rules. Now everyone who works for a movie studio involved with the production of it is "Illuminati" or in the know. Parts of scripts could be written with the impression permissions had been granted to release information until a movie actually on the final reel. It could be as simple as he did not YET have permission to release something in a movie and did so while it was still be debated, or another faction within the brotherhood took offense, or a single powerful individual did... and used this is a basis to kill him without reprecussion.

Those within this system kill each other all the time, and as long as it is done so within the rules and traditions, it is acceptable. Often those rules allow someone to actually comit the offense that will get them killed prior to taking action against them if their status or value is high enough. Everything is done within the confines of ritual, tradition and rules.

I see, what you say sound like his movie was not a threat to there agenda of complete global control. But rather how the masons act when one of there member expose masonic secrets? Very much like what svali has said in he interviews.

[guuna]

Eyes Wide Shut was a masterpiece. He worked in brotherhood symbolism into every scene, every female actress in the entire movie was bloodline (I cannot speak for the males because I cannot tell as easily), every color, symbol and scene of the movie was carefully selected.

The ritual was only accurate in the first part however, which I broke down in the other thread a bit.

It's incrediable. 10 years ago when this movie was released it got a roasting from the critics, but now it's being hailed as a masterpiece.

Just like all Kubrick movies, they get better with age.

[opulentview]

some of the imagery in that film is gorgeous. *spoiler* when Tom Cruise gets 'outed' in front of everyone is probably one of the most intense scenes in movie history -- with no special effects needed to create the moment.

[tootrue]

Now, as some of you may or may not know the audio from big ritual scens in eyes wide shut was played backwards.
As I have came to find ouy later on was that on the reversed version of this audio, the ritual is in Romanian!

Does anyone have the any idea at all of why Kubrick choose and Romanian religious chant for this ritual scene?

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k)

Romanian christian-orthodox chanting!?
I did notice it sounded backwards (in the movie) - I saw live church service, during my trip to Romania

No coincidence that it sounds like masonic chanting, as orthodox christianity came before protestant, and probably stems directly from the Church of Babylon

kinda like the melody, though :)
---------------------------

Hey, and look at the masks worn in the movie - they look like the the reptoids decribed by Credo Mutwa and others - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNzuF33tZo&NR=1

[limelady]

Fullblood bloodlines?

Is Tom Cruise also bloodline? if yes is he Fullblood? He was marry to Nicole Kidman and he has children with he - i mean Bloodlines only marry bloodlines because they have to keep there dna unbroken.


I'm not sure about Tom Cruise being bloodline....he may well be, but the children he parented with Nicole Kidman were not their own genetic children.....Cruise and Kidman adopted those children.

Now for a bit of goss from times gone by....not because I'm a Hollywood gossip type, but because I've always had a keen interest in the shenanigans known as Scientology which is being promoted by some very high-profile celebrities. Scientology was started by L Ron Hubbard who rumoured to be an adept occultist with ties to rocket scientist Jack Parsons and the famous occultist Aleister Crowley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons


Anyway....prior to being married to Kidman, Cruise was married to another actress Mimi Rogers (http://www.nndb.com/people/203/000024131/). She was a bit older than Cruise and Hollywood rumour had it (at that time) that Rogers was desperate to have children and Cruise was sterile, so their attempts to get her pregnant were futile, the pressure of which lead to their eventual marriage split. Whether or not any of this is true is anyone's guess (its Hollywood after all folks), but what is true is that it was Rogers who first introduced Cruise (who is dyslexic) to Scientology. Also true, like Kidman who went on to marry Keith Urban and have a child with him, Rogers went on to successfully become pregnant (she has two children) with her next husband.

Would be interesting if DE could run his eyes over Mimi Rogers to see if she (in his opinion) has bloodline genes.

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/432/245/21/9d15_1.JPG

The rumours persisted for many years that Cruise was either a closet homosexual or sterile (the ex-wives won't talk about any of this, even many years later), and that his fast-track marriage to Katie Holmes and her immediate pregnancy was all a sham set up by Scientology to prove one of their most famous spokes-persons was neither sterile or homosexual......the rumours were rife at that time and this was not a look Scientology wanted for their movement, so they went into 'damage control'. There were similar rumours about John Travolta's sexual preferences way back, and that he was sent away to have his homosexual bias successfully programmed out of him by Scientology prior to his marriage to Kelly Preston. It seems the wholesome 'family' image is preferred as presented by Travolta, and now Cruise.......but the latter sure seems to still be having difficulties keeping his present wife happy, with many rumours Katie Holmes is suffering depression that won't lift.

So is Cruise bloodline? Who knows.....maybe he was neither shooting blanks or gay, but was just saving his very special 'bloodline' genes for a genetically perfect wife to bring forth his precious spawn. ;)

Now back on track......:)

[illuminati downfall]

Now, as some of you may or may not know the audio from big ritual scens in eyes wide shut was played backwards.
As I have came to find ouy later on was that on the reversed version of this audio, the ritual is in Romanian!

Does anyone have the any idea at all of why Kubrick choose and Romanian religious chant for this ritual scene?

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiFNPyRUE3k)


:eek: That is an odd sounding song/chant whether backward or forward IMO. Am I the only one here who actually finds it mildly creepy?

[limelady]

:eek: That is an odd sounding song/chant whether backward of forward IMO. Am I the only one here who actually finds it mildly creepy?

No you are NOT the only one ID......I find it very creepy!

Joselyn Pook wrote the creepy music for the Eyes Wide Shut movie.

Here is her site
http://www.jocelynpook.com


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a2b4_jocelyn-pook-masked-ball_music

[zaphael33]

Originally Posted by tootrue
Hey, and look at the masks worn in the movie - they look like the the reptoids decribed by Credo Mutwa and others - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNzuF33tZo&NR=1

about the masks...here is one, standing as a monument in the new town of Milton Keynes, I think is in Buckinghamshire, UK...
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1995/mk2b.jpg

here is the same mask from the movie:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8331/eyes2s.jpg

more about it, from this source:
http://www.ellisctaylor.com/eyeswideshut.html

[boots]

Would be interesting if DE could run his eyes over Mimi Rogers to see if she (in his opinion) has bloodline genes.

Now back on track......:)

Yeah, could you check it out DE. Thanks.


Oh another thing. Were there any masonic symbols in there and what is their relationship to Hollywood?

.

[darketernal]

Yeah, could you check it out DE. Thanks.


Oh another thing. Were there any masonic symbols in there and what is their relationship to Hollywood?

.


It is all in the eyes Boots...
http://www.popentertainment.com/MimiRogers.jpg

I'm going with a yes on this one.

The entire movie is full of Masonic symbolism, as well as a wide varity of occult symbolism. Just sit down and watch it all the way through and you will pick a lot of it out.

[stewart edwards]

You make the assumption there is only one faction within the system, no infighting, assassinations based on the finer points of the violation of rules. Now everyone who works for a movie studio involved with the production of it is "Illuminati" or in the know. Parts of scripts could be written with the impression permissions had been granted to release information until a movie actually on the final reel. It could be as simple as he did not YET have permission to release something in a movie and did so while it was still be debated, or another faction within the brotherhood took offense, or a single powerful individual did... and used this is a basis to kill him without reprecussion.

Those within this system kill each other all the time, and as long as it is done so within the rules and traditions, it is acceptable. Often those rules allow someone to actually comit the offense that will get them killed prior to taking action against them if their status or value is high enough. Everything is done within the confines of ritual, tradition and rules.So how does the "system" cope with someone like me who finds things out on his own then helps others find it as well? Who is sometimes able to cut through the forest and see problems and the solutions thereto that are hidden from those living within the forest? And this does cut deep into what some here would call the "elite". I am well aware, that certianly in the masonic world I talk about things that some would prefer not to recognise. And with those old crystals, that must ruffle a few feathers.

It would be possible to argue a case that there are those who have helped me unknowingly and those who have hurt me and broken me in life. But equally you can look at these as learning experiences equipping me with new skills. And when you boil it all down most powers that be (even the egotistical ones who play the system to its detriment) often do do a lot of good work in society.

Just wait until the "elite" realise that I am not only their boss but that I am going to have my chair back.;).

Not knowing the rules, I must have broken countless rules over the years as I have found my own way, then proded and poked, knocked heads and been a pain in the proverbial.

So what do you think Darketernal?

[luciferhorus]

Now for a bit of goss from times gone by....not because I'm a Hollywood gossip type, but because I've always had a keen interest in the shenanigans known as Scientology which is being promoted by some very high-profile celebrities. Scientology was started by L Ron Hubbard who rumoured to be an adept occultist with ties to rocket scientist Jack Parsons and the famous occultist Aleister Crowley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons




We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive,
We do not forget.
Expect us.......Project Chanology


http://www.p2pnet.net/images/tc3.jpg

On Anti-Scientology

Lucifer 2009
No mercy on they who deserve none.

The Defenders of Scientology appear to permeate the Internet and can be found attempting to defend their cult on anti-Scientology blogs and groups and on Usenet etc.

The following is my standard response on Scientology.


Hubbard was a member of Crowley's 'Ordo Templi Orientis' chapter in Los Angeles for a few months. It was Crowley who was anti-psychiatry; Hubbard picked up on this and this became one of the main selling points of his multi-million dollar cult. For the 60% of adult Americans who suffer from depression (unhappiness), Valium and other prescription drugs are pushed by psychiatrists who get a commission on sales from the multi billion dollar drug industry. Clearly both psychiatrists ‘and’ the Church of Scientology are competing for market-share in the happiness business; both are ‘scams.’

Hubbard was a businessman and a charlatan. Church of Scientology members consider Hubbard to have been the 'Great Soul,' and they always try to exploit the Crowley connection (they consider Thelemites to be potential recruits); frankly there was none.

Scientologists can only read Hubbard's secret OT III document, after handing over often 10's of thousands of dollars and enduring endless hypnosis sessions and personal confessions (the contents of which are often used to blackmail them if they ever leave the church), however rather than posting Hubbard's infantile OT III nonsense here, what follows is a short summary by RAGE, the moderator of the Myspace anti-Scientology group.

If you are a Scientology customer / cutlist and you have not read Hubbard's OT III document, please do not read what follows, it is forbidden to you (you have not handed over enough money yet) since only select Scientologists can know this information.

However if you are willing to read it, I'd welcome your comments. Alternatively there are numerous response to this on RAGE's group and comment on it over there, if you can stand the ridicule of your ridiculous church and your brainless guru.

I have a hard drive full of Hubbard's other infantile bullshit which I could post here if you would like to discuss this issue.


To be truly free to love and hate according to one’s will, one cannot be a slave, since the slave is told what to think by a master (programmer / hypnotist / auditer) while having an E-Meter attached to her head. The mantra of Scientology is ‘Do What Thou Art Told by thine auditor is the whole of the Law’ Be a good hypnotised cultist.

Love and Light

Lux.

http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif

________________

http://spstrangio.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/cruise_nazi_xenu.jpg


I'm going to tell you a story. Are you sitting comfortably? Right, then I'll begin.

Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack.


Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan.


Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers).



These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed.


The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper).


After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting".


When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies.


As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today.


That is the end of the story. And so today everyone is full of these clusters of souls called "body thetans". And if we are to be a free soul then we have to remove all these "body thetans" and pay lots of money to do so. And the only reason people believe in God and Christ was because it was in the film their body thetans saw 75 million years ago.


Well what did you think of that story?


What? You thought it was a stupid story?


Well so do we. However, this story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology.* If people knew about this story then most people would never get involved in it. This story is told to you when you reach one of their secret levels called OT III. After that you are supposed to telepathically communicate with these body thetans to make them go away. You have to pay a lot of money to get to this level and do this (or you have to work very hard for the organisation on extremely low pay for many years).


We are telling you this story as a warning. If you become involved with Scientology then we would like you to do so with your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains.


Most of the Scientologists who work in their Dianetics* centres and so called "Churches" of Scientology do not know this story since they are not allowed to hear it until they reach the secret "upper" levels of Scientology. It may take them many years before they reach this level if they ever do. The ones who do know it are forced to keep it a secret and not tell it to those people who are joining Scientology.

Part of the first page of the secret OT III document in L. Ron Hubbard's own handwriting



Now, don't forget... This is a much nicer, spelling corrected, grammar included, type version of the story. The original is almost unintelligable. The handwriting is astonishing, and the story is in bits and pieces where L Ron Hubbard drifted in and out of his serious delusions brought on by the mass use of drugs and drinking. So, you have read this and now you know their big secret. Don't let us put you off joining though

More of this story in detail with references and hyperlinks on:

http://www.scientomogy.com/xenu.com.php






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJlZ_f1594

Scientology: Panorama Investigates (BBC).


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-190410476060429284&ei=dNn1SZLBHpnM2wLAk5WQDQ&q=Scientology+48+hours+&hl=en


Anti-Scientology activism

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive,
We do not forget.
Expect us.


http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/460/1201116421097ig4.jpg

'Anonymous' is a loosely affiliated group of dedicated people from all walks of life, and all over the world, connected only by the common goal of exposing the corrupt and abusive practices of organized Scientology. To further their goal, the web-based activists have held monthly protests and rallies worldwide, with the intent of bringing Scientology abuses to the public domain and urging politicians to take action.
The past year of activism has led to 'Anonymous' being accused of an endless number of crimes, acts of retaliation and other malicious tactics employed by the Church of Scientology. Despite this harassment, 'Anonymous' continues to provide and freely distribute information relevant to the interests of the public, regardless of numerous attempts by Scientology to silence their criticism. The cause has been taken up by thousands worldwide, and continues to draw new members daily.
Anyone interested in learning more about why 'Anonymous' opposes Scientology, or participating in activism themselves, are encouraged to visit http://anonstillalive.com. The website provides a list of active Anonymous cells in existence, as well as their local websites, activities, and people to contact. Information on the upcoming Saturday protests is also readily available.

For additional information on the Project Chanology campaign please visit:
WhyWeProtest Forums - http://www.whyweprotest.net
Chanology Portal - http://www.chanologyportal.com

[truthseeker_]

http://arxidamos.pa-sy-a.gr/2009/04/10/01-00/order_out_of_chaos.jpg

Illuminatus Rex from Eyes Wide Shut:

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/eyes.jpg

The “Rex” in Illuminati Rex, is, of course, a reference to the final degree of the Illuminati - Rex or Man-King (Docetist; Docetengrad). ...

WOW Great find there!

Thank everybody for the posts.

This movie is very interesting indeed, haunting as well with all of the symbolism.

I have the two disc edition where in the second disc where they interview family and cast no one speaks about any of this. They only speak about is him, his dedication for movies and that he has passed away.

I would sure love to hear his own explenation on why he put all of this symbolism in the movie.

Another thing that vas interesting on the second disc is the fact that Kubrik and Steven Speilberg spent a lot of time on the phone exchanging ideas and information.

[romas]

Heh for some reason I love Masked Ball - Jocelyn Pook either forward or backwards, it is indeed more akward when played backwards. The youtube clip with W. Blakes paintings and the chanting was certainly impressive.


I believe the masks come from European elite parties, you can still experience the tradition in Venice carnival/mask ball.

http://mythicworldtours.com/italy/venice/mascheranda.php

http://www.visit-venice-italy.com/history_of_the_carnival_in_venice_masks_pleasures. htm

Some bit more extreme versions :)

http://rlv.zcache.com/carnivale_mask_venice_italy_souvenir_stand_card-p137682583189082076tra8_210.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PTGPOD/552792.jpg

http://www.deliciousitaly.com/backend/UserFiles/Image/veneto/venice_mask_costume.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IBdxK3sPo4Q/SFzN6YH5NsI/AAAAAAAAAfs/XGUjDBenXR0/s320/MASK-504-08638.jpg

[stewart edwards]

Must confess that this thread had me ordering it. It has been a while since I watched it. Darn good film and that is all that really matters, though I suspect that I will now be counting xmas trees!!

[truthseeker_]

Must confess that this thread had me ordering it. It has been a while since I watched it. Darn good film and that is all that really matters, though I suspect that I will now be counting xmas trees!!

When I first heard the reversed audio on youtube it was removed a couple of days later and could not be found.

As this is the most astonashing thing I have seen since I started reading "conspiracy" information, I needed to make sure that I had the DVD, in any wild case of not being able to get a hold of it in the future.

There are not many movies at all that I can watch more than one time. This movie is certanly an exception.

[boots]

It is all in the eyes Boots...
http://www.popentertainment.com/MimiRogers.jpg

I'm going with a yes on this one.

The entire movie is full of Masonic symbolism, as well as a wide varity of occult symbolism. Just sit down and watch it all the way through and you will pick a lot of it out.

I haven't watched the movie, as a matter of fact I hardly watch any hollywood movies, Crickey I dont even know what Star Wars is about :o

I will hire the DVD of Eye's wide shut as it sounds interesting.

So the old analogy "the eye's are the windows of the soul" really rings true.

Just of the top of your head, are there any actresses that aren't bloodline? And what about Jennifer Love Hewitt??


Thanks.

[limelady]

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive,
We do not forget.
Expect us.......Project Chanology




The Defenders of Scientology appear to permeate the Internet and can be found attempting to defend their cult on anti-Scientology blogs and groups and on Usenet etc.



Hi luciferhorus!

The subject of Scientology and the information you present deserves its own thread....there is so much to this topic!

Would you like to start a thread in this same sub-section? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested. :)

[boots]

I second that.
It was a very interesting read luciferhorus.

It reminded me of a lyric from Frank Zappa's "Joes Garage"

He say's " Pay a lot of money to the church of apllyintolgoy."

.

[lightgiver]

WOW Great find there!

Thank everybody for the posts.

This movie is very interesting indeed, haunting as well with all of the symbolism.

I have the two disc edition where in the second disc where they interview family and cast no one speaks about any of this. They only speak about is him, his dedication for movies and that he has passed away.

I would sure love to hear his own explenation on why he put all of this symbolism in the movie.

Another thing that vas interesting on the second disc is the fact that Kubrik and Steven Speilberg spent a lot of time on the phone exchanging ideas and information.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=386

Have you ever heard of the Olympians and not of the athlete type;)

here is the vid again just in case you missed it on previous post before it disappears again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj7Hw6OnbH8

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5560/51eswh9bqlss500.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51eswh9bqlss500.jpg)
P.M.C.V. (per me caeci vident : through me the blind see), was cast or hand-graved as a jewel to be worn by Minervals.

try reading this.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/01jan/RICR-090118.php

[tootrue]

about the masks...here is one, standing as a monument in the new town of Milton Keynes, I think is in Buckinghamshire, UK...
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1995/mk2b.jpg

here is the same mask from the movie:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8331/eyes2s.jpg

more about it, from this source:
http://www.ellisctaylor.com/eyeswideshut.html

thats interesting
thanx

[tootrue]

It is all in the eyes Boots...
http://www.popentertainment.com/MimiRogers.jpg

I'm going with a yes on this one.

The entire movie is full of Masonic symbolism, as well as a wide varity of occult symbolism. Just sit down and watch it all the way through and you will pick a lot of it out.

Sorry, who's that woman
I'm not convinced that there's something strange about her eyes
I've seen "worse"-looking eyes :)

[delamo1999]

Hi luciferhorus!

The subject of Scientology and the information you present deserves its own thread....there is so much to this topic!

Would you like to start a thread in this same sub-section? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested. :)



Me too. I would also like to read more about what is involved with scientology.

[darketernal]

Sorry, who's that woman
I'm not convinced that there's something strange about her eyes
I've seen "worse"-looking eyes :)

Why would you notice something about her eyes, unless you carried genetics and programing that would allow you to? :confused:

[limelady]

Me too. I would also like to read more about what is involved with scientology.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63247

Thanks luciferhorus! :)

[delamo1999]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63247

Thanks luciferhorus! :)


Thanks Limelady.

Off topic. By the way I just love your avatar!!!!

[limelady]

Thanks Limelady.

Off topic. By the way I just love your avatar!!!!

Thanks delamo....yes its a cuttie isn't it?

That one was kindly sent to me by a forum member. :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=2436&dateline=1240568349

Ahemmm....now back on topic or I'll have to give myself a thread reminder. :p

[lightgiver]

Why is it called Illuminati?

Illumination from the Angel of Light which becomes illuminated with your enlightenment.

The worship of the Bearer of Light (Horus)

Truly, Lucifer and his great worldwide deception!

The target of the Illuminati for hundreds of years has been to:

* One world leader (false-Christ)


* One world government (Beast)


* One world church or religion backed by the Kabbalist, WCC and the Vatican, New age movement (Whore of Babylon)


* Destroy mainstream religion, especially Christianity (Behead the saints)


* Control all human activity (One world order)


* Depopulate (Destroy wonderfully)


* Collapse world economy (A measure of wheat for a penny)


* Cash-less system (no man might buy or sell without the Mark of His name)


Matt 10:16

Therefore I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves; Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

It appears quite a few on here are advocating the Illuminatis plan,without knowing,or do they?

Do not be deceived.

Matthew 24:4

Take heed that no man deceive you.

[guardia]

hi, there!
I am from Romania , too.
I consider Eyes Wide Shut, one of the most interesting films ever made, full of symbols and ocult semnifications.
Yes, it's possible that the meaning of a reversed incantation from a bizantin ritual to be a satanic one.
p.s.
cheers, jorjel! :)

[romas]

Why the hell do people think we give a shit about your judeo-christian verses? Go post your religious bs somewhere where its relevant.

[tootrue]

Why would you notice something about her eyes, unless you carried genetics and programing that would allow you to? :confused:

sorry I might have misunderstood you
I thought you were making a coment about her eyes
I can see her eyes have some light in them
I've seen eyes with no light at all :) That's all that I meant, darketernal

[lightgiver]

Why the hell do people think we give a shit about your judeo-christian verses? Go post your religious bs somewhere where its relevant.

you appear awake:eek::D:D real bliss eh.

what makes you think anyone gives a damn about your words?

Take your BS self opinionated views elsewhere.

this forum is for everyone not just a few deluded religion haters.

I see you dismiss all the other posts though,typical.

Earth is the prettiest mental asylum on this side of the galaxy.

Yes you are right about that ,and you are a patient in it.

[romas]

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged.
For with the judgment you make you will be judged,
and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
(Matthew 7:1-2)




Oh wait you don't follow any of these, you just want other people to do that.

[lightgiver]

Oh wait you don't follow any of these, you just want other people to do that.

I am returning your insults as I have no need of them.

It appears another who can give them but not receive them,and BTW your post had nothing to do with the subject matter.
Mine did,even though it contained a little religion quote.

The very thing the Illuminate want to destroy.

[romas]

Lightheaded aren't we Lightgiver, where exactly were my insults on your persona?

[lightgiver]

Lightheaded aren't we Lightgiver, where exactly were my insults on your persona?

Obviously your memory is vague check out your post,91.

I will just print it here.

quote, romas,
Why the hell do people think we give a shit about YOUR judeo-christian verses? Go post your religious bs somewhere where its relevant.
unquote.

Yes very awake.:( no need for that,would you speak to D Icke like that.

I feel certain individuals just come on this forum to vent their anger at fellow members.

No wonder we are up the creek.

[limelady]

Please people, don't let this thread deteriorate.

When used as an example, religious texts/quotes are an acceptable (and indeed at times maybe even necessary) part of researching topics of this nature.


Thankyou. :)

[corivss]

The music that is being played during this scene is extremely creepy and was written and performed by Jocelyn Pook, and the selection was originally titled “Backwards Priests.” For this film, it was renamed “Masked Ball.” This selection can be found on the film soundtrack, as well as her album titled “Deluge” (or alternately “Flood”). It is positively haunting, and creates some unforgettable tension. The chanting is in reverse, and is of a Romanian priest giving a mass in Latin. The first voice is deep and bellicose, and is obviously the voice of a high-priest, as it invokes a seriousness that was rather disturbing upon first hearing this combined with the sights in the film itself.

The following quotes are actually Latin translated first into Italian, and then, into English.

A rough translation of the chanting is as follows:

“The High Priest bids Gloria to all apprentices . . .”

As the ritual progresses, a second reversed voice can be heard. The second voice is higher-pitched than the first, and is vibrated with a hurried cadence. This is after the hooded participants of the ritual are revealed to be beautiful young women. The rough translation of this second voice is as follows:

“. . . for our naked shepherdesses, for the compassion,
the life, the peace, the good health, the absolution,
and the control of the departed ones, and for the
forgiveness of the sins of the slaves of God, the
siblings of its Saint church . . .”



Only four days after Kubrick turned in the final cut of EWS to Warner Brothers, he was ‘found’ dead by his wife. He had no heart trouble, and wasn’t ill before his sudden and shockingly unexpected death. Perhaps a clue into the nature of his death is the fact that it occurred precisely 666 days prior to the first day of the year in which his most famous film occurs --- 2001: A Space Odyssey. Everyone was shocked by his death, and this group includes all who were working on EWS, and his family, as well. Even though the official report was that he died of a heart attack, his wife did not accept the explanation. Stanley had not been ill, or even in seemingly bad health.




This link breaks down most of the symbolism in the movie. It also touches on Kubrick's death etc. Great information and well done.

Source:
http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/2006/03/eyes-wide-shut-occult-symbolism.html

[truthseeker_]

.....haunting, and creates some unforgettable tension. The chanting is in reverse, and is of a Romanian priest giving a mass in Latin.


I know for a 100% fact that the words are not in Latin but in Romanian.

[corivss]

I know for a 100% fact that the words are not in Latin but in Romanian.

whatever, either way my link rocks ;)

[stewart edwards]

Watched the film again, and to be perfectly honest, after reading everything on here, I was a bit disappointed. Plenty of Titties which is always nice but it was all a bit too slow/long. Yes the movies does contain important messages eg the "now we are awake" at the end, and how you never know when helping someone will karmatically repay itself (and equally you never know when being rude, unhelpful etc will repay itself back to you), and it illustrated well how easy it is to err in life, how easy it is for power to overwhelm societies etc, but I just felt that it lacked something. I am just not sure what that something was. Perhaps I have just become too indoctrinated by the fast action films.

The film may be full of supposed esoteric symbolism, but quite frankly while symbolism can guide, direct and indeed control through group dynamics, real esoteric knowledge and awareness comes form your heart.

To me the main message of the film was a valuable exploration of oneself.

[decim]

EWS

EVVES

Pax Romano say the shepherds.

[consciousness]

I saw this movie for the first time ever tonight and was amazed by the masonic/illuminati type ritual with the orgies, with the masks, music. All eerie which is exactly how it is, of course. The elite love sex, and get hookers all the time. And Nick Nightingale being blind folded, was a very nice touch. Well done Stanley Kubrick, you certainly did some fine work on revealing something. I had to smile when Victor said to Bill "If i tell you their names, you won't sleep at night"

And it also brings home the notion that people who you know closest can be involved in those types of things.

I will definetly remember this movie for a while.

[stewart edwards]

amazed by the masonic/illuminati type ritual with the orgies,Is that a membership queue forming around Great Queen Street?