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25-04-2009, 02:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

Propaganda Due [propaˈganda ˈduːe] or P2 was a Masonic lodge operating under the jurisdiction of the Grand Orient of Italy from 1945 to 1976 (when its charter was withdrawn), and a pseudo-Masonic or "black" or "covert" lodge operating illegally (in contravention of Italian laws banning secret lodges, and membership of government officials in secret membership organizations) from 1976 to 1981.

P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli, the collapse of the Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, and the murders of journalist Mino Pecorelli and banker Roberto Calvi. P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michele Sindona's financial empire.[1]

"Propaganda" was originally founded in 1877, in Turin, as "Propaganda Massonica". This lodge was frequented by politicians and government officials from across Italy who were unable to attend their own lodges and included prominent members from the Piedmont nobility. The name was changed to "Propaganda Due" following World War II, when the Grand Orient of Italy numbered its lodges. By the 1960s, however, the lodge was all but moribund, holding few meetings. This original lodge, however, has little to do with the one Gelli established in 1966, two years after becoming a freemason himself

boots
01-05-2009, 12:11 PM
This is a perfect example of freemasonic power that are in the higher ranks of society.

Step out of line and you are murdered.

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boots
08-05-2009, 01:39 PM
I am just reading the book "In Gods Name" by David Yallop.

The financial shenanigans that went on with the Vatican incorporated is very disturbing . There are many factions in the Vatican, it's a big power struggle. But the purpose of it is Money and thought control.

Former High Level Italian
Illuminati Comes Clean
By Greg Szymanski
ArcticBeacon.com
10-25-6 Leo Zagami, successor to high-level Italian Illuminati figure and former Reagan unofficial Vatican advisor, Licio Gelli, switches sides from evil to good and is warning Americans about coming fascism. Very rarely does a high-level Illuminati 33 degree Freemason come forward with inside information, damaging to the Vatican-controlled and Jesuit-led New World Order. But Leo Zagami, a Sicilian aristocrat and former high-member of the Monte Carlo P2 Lodge, is doing just that, coming forward for the simple reason he could no longer work under the forces of evil who are killing millions around the world. The following message from Zagami, who just left the clutches of the evil Illuminati in June, is printed to show just how high-up in the Illuminati pecking order his black star had risen. It is also printed to protect Zagami's life as he was already arrested, beaten and tortured twice since going public with a web site geared at enlightening America to the threat the Vatican-led Illuminati poses to the American people. In fact, Zagami's information comes from the top of the Illuminati secret files and correspondence since he was even considered in his home country of Italy to be the P2 Masonic successor to the powerful Licio Gelli, who was being slowly moved out of Illuminati active duty because of his age. Zagami only weeks ago went public with his English language web site and last week made his first public appearance on American radio, appearing on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal. Zagami is scheduled to make a second appearance next week, as his top level information has helped to connect the dots between the Vatican, the Jesuits, Freemasonry and their control over the U.S government. Here is his most recent words and it is easy to see why the higher-ups in the Illuminati are listening to his every word and watching his every move very closely: Remember, my dear friend, I was not your ordinary Freemason but a Senior P2 Illuminati in charge of many hidden operations and the supposed successor of illustrious Bro. Licio Gelli. We have to be very careful and then we can free Rome, Sicily and the rest of the world from all this evil Mind Control satanic network of perverts and black magicians. The United States was founded by Freemasons who had a dream of independence, freedom, and truth, so lets see if we can bring them to realize their actual slavery from the evil Illuminati Jesuit game and change their path towards God not Satanism. Father Sebott and others are working against honest Freemasons all over the world so lets do it before is to late and I'm sure we can save a few souls. The deal between the Jesuit and the Freemasons of the Grande Oriente d'Italia (that include P2) was madeofficially in the Parioli district of Rome at "La Casa del dialogo" in 1975 with Padre Caprile and the Italian Grand Master. Present to this event most P2 members and 400 High degree Masons. Brother Maurizio Costanzo known pervert and important manipulator of the Illuminati was there. Costanzo is now in charge of Berlusconi's P2 TV brainwashing programs for the new generations of Italian chickens. My wife recently had a dream last May and after that nothing was the same for me (dreams are very important for Sufi's) God told her that Giorgio Hugo Balestrieri was working with the Anti-Christ himself and I had to stop being a GLADIO P2 Illuminati puppet, because this people will never change even if I took control of the Order and tried to make them understand the true work of the God and the real Illuminati...you will discover I'm a big idealist and I really am trying to save the souls of people over and over again...that's what a genuine man of God does to a fellow Brother in need even at the highest levels of the corrupted Empire of Satan every soul counts. So let's unveil the truth and help humanity being less hypocritical. Let's just tell them we are who the real Puppet Masters are in detail and how it works by fighting the Legion of Satan head on. Everybody in the Italian Masonic circles knows I was the supposed successor of Gelli and the right hand of Ezio Giunchiglia for a long time in the Monte Carlo Lodge and the Universal Unity. So this revelation will be not big news for most High Degree Masons in Italy and making it public is no problem. I also worked with Ezio on the new (Scottish) Rite and we followed after the 33rd Degree. Brother Ezio use to cal it the Rinnovato Rito Scozzese (5 extra degrees made to manipulate the Monte Carlo elite even further) and this was made within the inner circle of the Ordo Illuminatorum Universalis. I was responsible for the revision of the 38th degree called Knight of St. John of the Apocalypse and what is known as the Supreme Council of Transformation, leading to the knowledge of the true Invisible Masters of the 39th degree and last degree of the Monte Carlo illuminati system known as THE INVISIBLE MASTERS. These invisible Masters were chosen only in the high level religious and aristocratic circles and contact with them was forbidden bellow the 38 degree. Why? Because there were real Illuminati and genuine Masters chosen by the dark Illuminati to keep their pyramid credible in the light of suspicions, as a nice front for the show. But also many fake and evil ones like the Jesuits or Archbishop Paul Marcinkus that were the real driving force of the Monte Carlo Lodge and GLADIO...the good side of the INVISIBLE MASTERS were not even aware of their membership in such Lodge and all this evil show for a long time until I arrived and saw what was happening. At that point I decided to punish Satan and his friends for this terrible sin of deception with the help of God...let's see if we can really change things now and bring some light in all this darkness and ignorance but is definitely a risky affair since the Board of Directors and the Illuminati. Marcinkus was called by Ezio the keeper of the Vatican Safe keys...he always use to say "our illustrious Brother of the safe"... P2 is the Vatican and the Vatican is the real mind of GLADIO and I'm probably a dead man as my wife is saying in the last few days but I don't care and will go on. I tell her this is for the good of humanity but she says I'm really risking to much this time. Zagami continued with more details about the higher-levels of Freemasonry, including more details about the influential Monte Carlo Lodge: I said 5 extra degrees and not 6 because the "Invisible Masters" were never really meeting for any ritual work in any Lodge, so no proper ritual was ever created or devised for them as they were just given this position by the Supreme Council of Transformation (another great invention of the Monte Carlo Illuminati) to cover up in reality the dirty work of the usual "not so Invisible Masters" from the Jesuit Order and the Zionist Empire... P2 and GLADIO were very clever in doing this for manipulating the lower structure of their P2 slaves, playing this never ending illuminati game of Gelli and Giunchiglia the two Puppet Masters of the P2 (Worshipful Master and Treasurer). The so called Supreme Council of Transformation (Apocalypse means Transformation by the way...) will say or publish for the rest of the Brethern the following "we have been giving this honorary degree and we visited personally such and such great and illustrious Brother to recognize each other as real Illuminati" In reality the situation was quite different and the only real Invisible Masters I ever saw around there at top level meetings were all dangerous mafiosi and crooks of the Vatican, including: Knights of Malta, Jesuits and Opus Dei... But this was obviously not the official version for our Illuminati followers of the P2 in lower levels, participants of this never ending sick show of fake Illuminati myths created by Licio Gelli and Ezio Giunchiglia. At one time they even came up with a false war with each other to deceive people even more. Ezio to get the attention off the important business of the Monte Carlo Lodge under investigation spread the rumor outside P2 that at the end of the 70's he had broke a chair in the head of our Worshipful Master Licio Gelli...HILLARIOUS BUT TRUE! Really creative people these Puppet Masters and is actually quite fun to see all the sheep under believing every bit of it , poor world of idiots without a God, poor Satanist. The elite of the Monte Carlo Lodge members the Board of Directors if you prefer, meet in a very discreet and secret room given by a very prestigious Hotel in the center of Monte Carlo, and the entrance is located and the end of the entrance hall on you left where you can notice some stairs going up to this particular room. But don't try going upstairs because you might get in serious trouble with the security if you are up for a stunt. This is not a Bohemian Grove American illuminati theatrical affair for political chickens with a couple of perverts of the New World Order to eventually blackmail later. This is always a proper high level meeting of true P2, Don's doing business with USA intelligence, Cosa Nostra, Vatican Jesuits...and more... So I warn you in advance for you own safety don't go in search of the Holy Grail in Monte Carlo if you want to stay alive, because business is business for these people and if you interfere with the Mob you want stay alive as you all know... All other meetings of the Monte Carlo Lodge structure go under the name UNIVERSAL UNITY www.universal-unity.net and they are only made in Monasteries around Italy and France (very handy for a quick confession with a Jesuit friend of your choice) were the recruiting process starts ...go to the Monastery and join the P2! The last meeting of the Monte Carlo board of Directors I went to was on the 1st of June 2006 and the last Universal Unity Gathering I went to the meeting in the Monastery of San Cerbone (near Lucca). The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, The Rectified Scottish Rite, The illuminati Rite of Memphis and Misraim and various other rituals and Rite's of Freemasonry under direct P2/Jesuit control are practiced elsewhere around Italy and France under various Masonic Obedience (apparently all in war with each other...the usual show) but that's all part of the Masonic Theatre not the real thing that's called UNIVERSAL UNITY and the MONTE CARLO LODGE.

zyphus
08-05-2009, 06:24 PM
Zagami? You've been Hoodwinked as the Masons would say..

Even Project Camelot have said they can no longer support his claims, and that is saying something. Especially after promoting "Crystal Child (Aged 26) Jessica Mystic, Modern Day Fairy Godmother'..

Words of wisdom from Jessica

It is interesting how we awaken then forget awake then forget all this reminding and being so astute the patterns programming we can so easily fall back into. The more you pay attention catch wise to how such things work then the more piece/peace of mind one gets. I wrote a few poems about this like brain freeze.

boots
09-05-2009, 10:22 AM
I think they got to old Leo he started coming out with weird shit and ramblings.

That still doesn't detract from the fact that he had inside knowledge of P2.

boots
09-05-2009, 11:57 AM
Zagami? You've been Hoodwinked as the Masons would say..

Even Project Camelot have said they can no longer support his claims, and that is saying something. Especially after promoting "Crystal Child (Aged 26) Jessica Mystic, Modern Day Fairy Godmother'..

Words of wisdom from Jessica

Right O get your teeth into this then.

http://nstarzone.com/POPEY.jpg WHEN THEY KILL A POPE

"The streets are filled with vipers who've lost all ray of hope You know it ain't even safe no more in the palace of the Pope" - Bob Dylan Is everything a conspiracy? No. Just the important stuff. After the long reign of Pope John Paul II, it seemed interesting to recall the circumstances of the his papal succession. Because Luciani Albini, Pope John Paul I, was almost certainly murdered, by an international network of fascists and money launderers, with ties to elements within military and intelligence agencies. (And isn't it just amazing, how often we find that convergence?) He only served 33 days; what could he have done in that short time to deserve death? What kind of Pope was he becoming?
To the second question, there's the suggestion of an answer in this passage from David Yallop's In God's Name: On August 28, 1978, the beginning of his papal revolution was announced. It took the form of a Vatican statement that there was to be no coronation, that the new pope refused to be crowned. There would be no sedia gestatoria, the chair used to carry the pope, no tiara encrusted with emeralds, rubies, sapphires, and diamonds. No ostrich feathers, no six-hour ceremony.... Luciani, who never once used the royal "we," was determined that the royal papacy with its appurtenances of worldly grandeur should be replaced by a Church that resembled the concepts of its founder. The "coronation" became a simple Mass. The spectacle of a pontiff carried in a chair...was supplanted by the sight of a supreme pastor quietly walking up the steps of the altar. With that gesture Luciani abolished a thousand years of history.... The era of the poor Church had officially begun.
That right there would have been enough to make the Vatican's power elite nervous, but surely not enough to seek the Pope's death. Not even his expressed interest in reconsidering the Church's position on birth control would have been enough for that. What was enough, was his intent to overturn the tables of the corrupt Vatican Bank, and purge the Vatican of the P2 Lodge. This is one of those things that make being a "conspiracy theorist" seem entirely superfluous. Just try imagining P2: an elite, ultra-secretive, neo-fascist, Masonic cabal, involved in money laundering, assassination and false-flag terrorism. (The "Strategy of Tension," to discredit Italy's Communist Party. For instance, the engineering of Aldo Moro's kidnapping and murder, and the Bologna train bombing.) P2 counted among its members the future Italian President Silvio Berlusconi, and reputedly boasted honourary members like Henry Kissinger, George HW Bush and arch-neocon, Michael Ledeen. I mentioned P2 last August, with regard to Ledeen's long history with the Italian far right and the linchpin of Italian military intelligence to the Niger "Yellow Cake" forgery. [For more on the significance of P2 to US intelligence and the "Octopus," refer to David Guyatt's excellent articles "Operation Gladio", "Holy Smoke and Mirrors" and "The Money Fountain."]
Licio Gelli was P2's Grandmaster, and can't even be called a neo-fascist. He was Old School: a member of the Italian Black Shirt Brigade which fought for Franco in the Spanish Civil War. During World War II, he spied on partisans in his native Italy for the Nazis, and obtained the SS rank of Oberleutenant. This same Gelli was a honoured guest of George HW Bush after the 1980 inauguration, and there is evidence that Gelli and P2 played a role in the October Surprise; even that Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme was murdered on Gelli's orders because he'd refused to provide Swedish cover for the covert transfer of money and arms. In her October Surprise, Barbara Honegger writes that a P2 informant claimed to her that before Palme's death, Gelli sent a message to former Republican National Committee advisor (and also alleged "honourary" P2 member) Philip Guarino, assuring him that "the Swedish tree will be felled," and to "tell our good friend Bush."
Your head exploding yet? There's more. GHW Bush's reputed code name for October Surprise was "The White Rose," which was also the name of a far-right Cuban exile group with which the CIA's Bush was reportedly engaged during the ramp-up to the Bay of Pigs. Honneger reports that when Italian police uncovered the P2 control cell responsible for terrorism in Italy, they learned that its code name was "The Rose of Twenty." Gelli seems to have had a weakness for the flower. And this may mean nothing, or I know what you did: in 1988, on the 25th anniversary of John F Kennedy's murder, Ted Kennedy marked the occasion in Runnymede England by placing, at the foot of his brother's memorial, a single white rose. Gelli's network financed itself in part by purchasing and plundering banks, thanks to the likes of P2 brothers Michele Sindona and "God's Banker," Roberto Calvi. Mafioso Sindona, in 1968, had become a financial advisor to Pope Paul VI; Calvi was running Banco Ambrosiano; and another P2 member, American Bishop Paul "You can't run the Church on Hail Marys" Marcinkus, who bore the nickname "the Gorilla," was heading the Vatican Bank. For a while, it was a sweet operation.
As cardinal of Venice, Albini had butted heads with the bankers. As Pope, he could finally do something more. Most revelatory, he became privy to the secret list of Freemasons in the Vatican. For the first time, he learned of P2's penetration of the Church. If the information was authentic, then it meant Luciani was virtually surrouded by Masons.... The secretary of state, Cardinal Villot, Masonic name Jeanni, lodge number 041/3, enrolled in a Zurich lodge on August 6, 1966. The foreign minister, Monsignor Agnostino Casaroli. The cardinal vicar of Rome, Ugo Poletti. Cardinal Baggio. Bishop Paul Marcinkus and Monsignor Donato de Bonis of the Vatican Bank. The disconcerted pope read a list that seemed like a Who's Who of Vatican City.
Here's a good summation of what happened next: With his bright intelligence and naive fearlessness, John Paul I penetrated to the heart of this maze of corruption within weeks of his coronation. On the evening of September 28, 1978, he called Cardinal Villot, the leader of the powerful Curia, to his private study to discuss certain changes that the Pope proposed to make public the next day.... Among those whose "resignations" would be accepted by the Pontiff the following day were the head of the Vatican Bank, and several members of the Curia who were implicated in the activities of Sindona and P2, and Villot himself. Moreover, Villot was told that John Paul I would also announce plans for a meeting on October 24 with an American delegation to discuss a reconsideration of the Church's position on birth control. When Pope John Paul I retired to his bedroom on the evening of September 28, clutching the paperwork that would expose the Vatican's financial dealings with the Mafia and purge the Curia of those responsible, a number of very ruthless individuals had a great interest in seeing to it that he would never awaken to issue these directives.
When the Pope's housekeeper knocked at his door at 4:30 a.m., she heard no response. Leaving a cup of coffee, she returned fifteen minutes later to find the Pope still not stirring. She entered the bed chamber and gasped when she saw the Pope propped up in bed, still holding papers from the night before, his face contorted in a grimace. On the night table beside him lay an opened bottle of Effortil, a medication for his low blood pressure. The housekeeper immediately notified Cardinal Villot, whose first response to the news was to summon the papal morticians even before verifying the death himself or calling the Vatican physician to examine the body. Villot arrived in the Pope's room at 5:00 a.m. and gathered the crucial papers, the Effortil bottle, and several personal items which were soiled with vomit. None of these articles were ever seen again.
Although the Vatican claimed that its house physician had determined myocardial infarction as the cause of death, to this day no death certificate for Pope John Paul I has been made public. Although Italian law requires a waiting period of at least 24 hours before a body may be embalmed, Cardinal Villot had the body of Albino Luciani prepared for within 12 hours of his death. Although the Vatican refused to allow an autopsy on the basis of an alleged prohibition against it in canon law, the Italian press verified that an autopsy had in fact been performed on one of the Pope's predecessors, Pius VIII. Although the conventional procedure for embalming a body requires that the blood first be drained and certain internal organs removed, neither blood nor tissue was removed from the corpse; hence, none was available to assay for the presence of poison.
This material can lead to despair. If they can whack the Pope, and get away with it, what hope do we have? I don't find it consoling to know of what they're capable; that they are, as Dylan sang in another song, "bound and determined to destroy all the gentle." That's not about justice. That's about being forewarned, and forearmed. And these days, that's almost as important as justice. But it is a consolation of sorts to remember that these people are flesh, just as we are. Gelli is still alive, but since his extradition from France in 1998, he has been serving a 12-year sentence for his role in the Banco Ambrosiano affair. Marcinkus received Vatican immunity from Pope John Paul II, when it became apparent Italian authorities intended to prosecute him for his criminal stewardship of the Vatican Bank, and eventually left Rome for Sun City, Arizona. (A fascinating glimpse of Marcinkus today, here.) Sindona died in prison drinking poison coffee, possibly the same administered to the Pope. Calvi, after his string played out, met a peculiarly Masonic fate, hanging from a rope beneath London's Blackfriar's Bridge, his hands tied behind his back and 12 pounds of bricks stuffed in his pockets. (Naturally, originally deemed a "suicide.")
Our advantage is that there are more of us than there are of them. Our greatest disadvantage: most of us still can't admit there is a them.

zyphus
09-05-2009, 03:23 PM
I think they got to old Leo he started coming out with weird shit and ramblings.

That still doesn't detract from the fact that he had inside knowledge of P2.

That doesn't seem in doubt, it's just the agenda behind it all..