Spongebob Squarepants is Officially F*%$ed UP

[metacomet]

Here in the states we're already hearing commotion over the mind-numbingly awful commercial using Sir Mixalots "Baby Got Back" re-write.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm6d2oy8GRk

When I was 10 years old and younger, (SpongeBob target audience) I did not understand why girl's butts were 'sexy' and I didn't want to.

I couldn't believe it when I saw this commercial for the first time. It's been on dozens of times since. It's on every channel : ALL THE TIME.

I have seen this cause a commotion on a few political talk shows on t.v... they are parading 'offended parents' about just enough to cause a commotion but the commercial remains on the air.

What the fuck are they doing?

Spongebob was a perfectly harmless goofy cartoon when it started... now stuff like this?

Do you know what Spongebob and his friends were doing just a minute ago while my little brother watched?

They went on a fucking PANTY RAID.

THIS IS A SHOW FOR LITTLE KIDS :mad:

[jojo]

my son loves it. i cant stand the noise of it though. its so in your face and brash. i cant be in the same room when its on, even though the jokes can be sometimes funny.

its a bit mind controlly i think.

yeh, the butt thing is sexual alright too! :confused:

[metacomet]

Thanks, jo! Is Nickelodeon big in the U.K.? Disney channel as well?

Women shaking their ass is totally inappropriate...

and like I said, this last episode, Spongebob and his friends were raiding girls drawers for their panties!?! This is fine for college movies but they know what they are doing putting that shit in a children's show.

Slowly pushing the line more and more to sexualize kids brains at an earlier age.

I don't want to stray into the Disney channel just yet but I'd like to point out that every single show on the Disney channel is about young kids (11 to 13) dating and making out. Every single show. They are brainwashing kids to think that sex and dating is the meaning of life.

Nickelodeon as well. There a handful of God-awful (truly shit writing) sitcoms for kids where the young characters are constantly having a crush on one boy or trying to date another boy... it's depressing. Kids have plenty of time to go through this shit in real life once they grow up, but what's happening is they are having this stuff pushed on them before they even have interests in the opposite sex.

Bleh. Suitable for another topic entirely, but I am so ashamed of Spongebob :mad:

http://everydayplaystation.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/spongebob.jpg

http://www.hhdb.com/hip-hop-honeys-video-models/flo_jalin_spongebob_squarepants_.jpg

What happened to you!? THEY GOT TO YOU, DIDN'T THEY! No, Spongebob, NOOOO!! :(

[tracker]

Here in the states we're already hearing commotion over the mind-numbingly awful commercial using Sir Mixalots "Baby Got Back" re-write.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm6d2oy8GRk

When I was 10 years old and younger, (SpongeBob target audience) I did not understand why girl's butts were 'sexy' and I didn't want to.

I couldn't believe it when I saw this commercial for the first time. It's been on dozens of times since. It's on every channel : ALL THE TIME.

I have seen this cause a commotion on a few political talk shows on t.v... they are parading 'offended parents' about just enough to cause a commotion but the commercial remains on the air.

What the fuck are they doing?

Spongebob was a perfectly harmless goofy cartoon when it started... now stuff like this?

Do you know what Spongebob and his friends were doing just a minute ago while my little brother watched?

They went on a fucking PANTY RAID.

THIS IS A SHOW FOR LITTLE KIDS :mad:


because they are all pedos !

child sex pedos .

sex crims !

ie -------------they want sex with kids !

[jojo]

http://www.hhdb.com/hip-hop-honeys-video-models/flo_jalin_spongebob_squarepants_.jpg

What happened to you!? THEY GOT TO YOU, DIDN'T THEY! No, Spongebob, NOOOO!! :(

OMFG! thats crazy!

yes, (sigh) they are sexualising kids. have been doing for girls for years and years in the uk with tart clothes and slaggy dolls. and now, the attack has started on boys.

my son loves sponge bob, but he listens to me about TPTB (i tell him in a way that he can understand tho) i think i will sit with him tomorrow and talk thru a couple of episodes.

thanks for the shout up MC!

[jojo]

aye tracker. your right :(

[tracker]

because they are all pedos !

child sex pedos .

sex crims !

ie -------------they want sex with kids !



it shows in what they do !

[a fine naked fellow]

I think all of you are just a bunch of squares. Pun not intended.

[metacomet]

I think all of you are just a bunch of squares. Pun not intended.

I would think I was being lame and paranoid if I were 12 or so. But now that I'm older and I see little kids watching shows that have sexual innuendo and I just feel creeped out...

[aya_rei]

Just a funny aside to add, not necessarily connected with the idea that Spongebob is a one of the many elite's vehicles - I haven't spent much time with the show to see the implication - but I just read Victoria Beckham will voice act in an episode of it next year.

And another random thing I read: David Bowie also participated in a Spongebob episode.

Thanks for the video clip, btw. I think I'll actually try and catch an episode of this to have something more concrete to contribute to this discussion.

[cafetimes1991]

I liked Spongebob, and would have watched it a lot more if it wasn't in Irish on television here... my favourite moment is when Nosferatu keeps turning off and on the lights.
A but seriously, I haven't really watched it in a long time, and there it probably a hidden agenda.

[a fine naked fellow]

I would think I was being lame and paranoid if I were 12 or so. But now that I'm older and I see little kids watching shows that have sexual innuendo and I just feel creeped out...

Listen this whole premise is flimsily. When did sexuality become a bad thing? The human race is undeniably sensual / sexual. That’s positive and children are a hell of a lot more aware of the world then we give them credit for. The idea that they are little cherubim’s to be shielded from all reality, is bull shit. Do note: I am in no way saying sex with kids is ok. That it is totally intolerable.A Person has to have a major personality distortion or mental flaw to go down that road.

But c’mon this is a stupid ass commercial obviously not meant to be taken seriously. It’s a burger king commercial. But I don’t see anybody complaining about the horse shit they feed our kids, or that their parents buy for them in the form of children’s meals. That we laughingly call food and drink. And what do you expect? The TV to be truthful? sponge bob isn’t exactly educational material. TV is an amusement park, entertainment, and an exercise in mental futility. And I have no sympathy for the parents who use the TV as damn babysitter and complain over the quality “programming” their little urchins receive. Just a thought, but ever consider reading your kids a book?

[vorador]

i never watched spongebob but i did watch the movie once. one of the funniest things that i remember is the "starfish guy" had a crush on the "mermaid" girl and for some reason i forget his pants are briefly down and he quickly and embarrassingly pulls his pants up. then he says to the girl "did you see my underwear?" to which she replies "No" then he pauses and goes "would you like too?"
:D
fucking hilarious. i knew right then and there this was one of "those" cartoon shows that really aren't meant for kids, but are, but shouldn't.

[gilly]

I don't know where you get the idea that Spongebob Squarepants is anything but sheer class! Where else are you going to get gems like, "Cleanliness is next to managerliness"? Answer me that!

[culix]

Spongebob is FULL of subliminals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT8uUFwxf3c

[fromthatshow]

You know what we should be more concerned with is why sexuality is taboo. Why we even wear clothes in the first place (when it's not cold out). Why we close the door when we have sex or take showers. Why completely natural things are taboo. It's fucked man!

[a fine naked fellow]

See I think this is silly. People need to respect sexuality. And honor themselves.
Playin naked and valuing the human form is ok by me, okay not the most popular opinion,
but not only are a lot of you a bunch of squares, a lot of you are scary prudes.

I don't know where you get the idea that Spongebob Squarepants is anything but sheer class! Where else are you going to get gems like, "Cleanliness is next to managerliness"? Answer me that!

There is a person of reason among us!

[acidjazz]

I remember not too long ago watching the show and in the episode squidword was part of a secret society. The society had a temple in the shape of a pyramid..

[aya_rei]

I liked Spongebob, and would have watched it a lot more if it wasn't in Irish on television here... my favourite moment is when Nosferatu keeps turning off and on the lights.
A but seriously, I haven't really watched it in a long time, and there it probably a hidden agenda.

Oh, totally!

When I was younger, I reckon I enjoyed this show quite a bit. To some extent, I might have a resistance to thinking this show might propagate the agenda because of that though :(

Maybe I am not qualified to look at this topic after all. I can't even seem to be able to catch the show when it's on nowadays anyway.

[metacomet]

See I think this is silly. People need to respect sexuality. And honor themselves.

Ok? Respecting sexuality and honoring yourself is fine.

WTF does showing panty-raids and sexual innuendo to children accomplish?


but not only are a lot of you a bunch of squares, a lot of you are scary prudes.

:rolleyes: Oh ok. And you're an open minded progressive person eh?

It's so tiresome observing the lack of critical thinking amongst these kinds of people.

Being progressive and open minded does not mean you have to swallow whatever garbage the media presents us with.

There is no reason to sexualize childrens cartoons or have so many children sitcoms about dating and sex etc.

Unless of course you are desperate to avoid seeming like a 'prude'.


It reminds me so much of one of my friends who joked about going to a gay bar. I said I would never go to a gay bar.

Not because I'm afraid of gays or have anything against it: because I'm not gay.

My friend said what 99% of people say 'Oh you're just afraid of gays.' :rolleyes:

PROGRESSIVIST SOCIALIST BULLSHIT - trying to make other people swallow trends and sexual viewpoints simply to spite moral and ethical boundaries.

Yawn.

And do you see what my point is?

My friend wasn't gay. He had no business being in a gay bar except to seem 'progressive' and get attention and brag about it later .

People DO this kind of thing ALL the time.

Just like this guy waltzes into this thread and calls everyone a prude??? Why?
Think about it.

You have no right calling me a prude because I think it's wrong for kids to watch sexualized stuff.
Just like you have no right calling me 'afraid of gays' if I were to not want to go to a gay bar.

It's all twisted logic to make people feel special about themselves, make them feel 'open minded'.

There's nothing open-minded about doing things just to be progressive.
There's nothing open-minded about accepting GARBAGE in the media just because it seems sexually edgy.

That's called being a TOOL.

[a fine naked fellow]

Sponge bob is not educational material. Sponge bob is not something anybody should be making value judgments on. You are taking sponge bob entirely too seriously. The TV as a whole should not be taken seriously.

WTF does showing panty-raids and sexual innuendo to children accomplish?

Entertainment and distraction for those who want it. And conditioning for the impressionable.

Oh ok. And you're an open minded progressive person eh?

Damn straight I am.

[gilly]

If you don't think that little kids have a sense of humour that's tickled by slightly taboo subjects, like underwear, I have to disagree with you. And I see nothing wrong with it, so long as it doesn't get too out of hand.

My lad loves watching Spongebob, & I occassionally laugh out loud along with him at it. It's humorous and inventive, imo, nothing more.

Stop picking on Spongebob!

[unusual_suspect]

If you don't think that little kids have a sense of humour that's tickled by slightly taboo subjects, like underwear, I have to disagree with you. And I see nothing wrong with it, so long as it doesn't get too out of hand.

My lad loves watching Spongebob, & I occassionally laugh out loud along with him at it. It's humorous and inventive, imo, nothing more.

Stop picking on Spongebob!

I actually think Spongebob is really funny, I watch it with my son and I reckon that the innuedos are slipped in there for the benefit of all the parents that will be watching. The Simpsons does the same thing.

[armoured_amazon]

Sponge bob is not educational material. Sponge bob is not something anybody should be making value judgments on. You are taking sponge bob entirely too seriously. The TV as a whole should not be taken seriously.

Entertainment and distraction for those who want it. And conditioning for the impressionable.

Damn straight I am.

Probably one of the most idiotic things I've read on this forum. TV's the biggest medium used to condition people. Dayum. Fracken stupid.

[unusual_suspect]

Spongebob is no where near as vile as iCarly or Hannah Montanna, they are 2 prime examples of some of the most repugnant filth I have ever had the misfortune to see on TV.

[leviathanstaar]

How, how how how how.

How in the hell do the the natural things we "should" not be bothered by in sexuality end up pertaining to children?

Do you know why it has to be all weird now over kids? And nakedness?
And sexuality? And all the other things being mentioned here as the way it should be.

Because of crossing the lines. With shit like this.
All the things would normally not be a problem or an issue to create us "prudes".

As far as sponge Bob on the whole goes I wont pretend to know, not a fan......

What I do know, is ten year olds DO NOT need constant bombardment by adult situations and sexual inuendo.
And it IS a big deal if that's occuring.

I beleive spongbob being something that multiple age groups enjoy helps them blur that line.

[metacomet]

If you don't think that little kids have a sense of humour that's tickled by slightly taboo subjects, like underwear, I have to disagree with you.

Women shaking their ass? Have you seen the original music video for 'I Like Big Butts'?

I don't see how kids find this funny. My little brother stares at this in confusion when it comes on. He seems more confused about what spongebob and patrick are doing mixed in with women shaking their thighs in his face...

As a little kid, you don't get sexual innuendo (unless you had a sad childhood). You know there's something cheeky being said or done for adults, but you don't understand it...

I don't know... I think it's sad that people don't understand what's going on here. I'm not some fucking posterboy, I can tell you that much. I just want my fucking brother to grow up in a world slightly less perverted than I did.

[metacomet]

Spongebob is no where near as vile as iCarly or Hannah Montanna, they are 2 prime examples of some of the most repugnant filth I have ever had the misfortune to see on TV.

Both of those shows are about girls chasing random boys and fighting over tedious shit. I don't see more of it than I would walking through the living room bu the fact that my little brother has to watch that shit programming instead of something actually fun or engaging.

Are we allowed to swear on this site? :p

[a fine naked fellow]

If you don't think that little kids have a sense of humour that's tickled by slightly taboo subjects, like underwear, I have to disagree with you. And I see nothing wrong with it, so long as it doesn't get too out of hand.

My lad loves watching Spongebob, & I occassionally laugh out loud along with him at it. It's humorous and inventive, imo, nothing more.

Stop picking on Spongebob!

Gilly can you tell me why reason is so rare occurring hereabouts? Its goddamn depressing. People act like sponge bob is the damn devil and expect it to be a white angel.

If anybody is offended by sponge bob then I suggest you watch the teletubbies.

[a fine naked fellow]

Perception: TV and Media is only to blame for all our ills. ( and not parental delinquency)
Reality: Our children live up to or down to our expectations of them.

Now this part will blow you guys minds:

If you don’t like the TV …(drum roll) …………………don’t turn it on or watch it.

. TV's the biggest medium used to condition people. Dayum. Fracken stupid.

Which is why it is not to be taken seriously, its a joke.

[dslexic]

I agree that sex shouldnt be taboo, but there is something more ominous going on here behind the scenes. There is a sexual agenda being pressed on kids. Music, MTV, cartoons. DISNEY. Just google disney porn and you can find a pic of stanley kubricks masked sex slaves in chippendales resue rangers, a preist with a hardon and phallic temples in the little mermaid, and the word sex in the clouds on the lion kin to name a few. WHy? is it wrong for kids to learn about sex? Im not sayin that, But for it to be subliminally implanted there thats dif. What is the point? I have a few ideas. Charly manson admits that he used a combination of sex and LSD to program his cult. Studies show that after 6-8 hours of str8 tv the brain is in a trancelike state which could take the role of the altered consciousness that lsd played with manson. Maybe the mind is hardwired to stay interested in sex even when in sleeplike states. Maybe its how they keep you interested in only the programming while it hypnotises you. Maybe they want to Steal the innocence of children by activating their sexuality at a early age befor the mind is able to comprehend the complex emotions that come with love. OR maybe someone behind the scenes is wetting his pants at the chance to anger god. who knows all i know is its something.

[mariag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm6d2oy8GRk


GROSS

[a fine naked fellow]

Dslexic,

There is no question that anything on the tube is riddled with subliminal messages. But subliminal messages are not unique to children’s programming. Primary messages are: SEX, KILL, DIE, HATE. People who over react however are getting the cart before the horse on this one.

The TV creates a dream like atmosphere in the mind, and the mind can be manipulated - if it confuses fantasy with reality. But the mind is not without its own order, reason, and protection. A healthy active mind positively discerns the elements of logic and right and wrong action in any situation. Children are not blank states being written on by the television masters. Children come preloaded and prepackaged as it were, for growth and development. Fulfillment is built in the genetics. Sexuality is innate in our species since day one, and children naturally enjoy themselves and tv is not a powerful enough entity to distort the process of growth and maturity. But parental abuse and neglect is.

Parents who plant the children in front of endless movies and shows like little mushrooms are to blame. They must be responsible. I have seen parents take toddlers to movie houses and strap their babies in. The most important teacher-babysitter is the tube. That is neglect. It is no wonder then that children’s shows now own them. The parents have neglected to provide the necessary frame work.

Consider that, even with all the violent imagery, not all tv/ film watchers are killers.With all the sexual imagery not all men and women are sex perverts. Consider that logic is universal and that most are not motivated to do willful harm. Although I agree that there could be healthier alternatives, they are not likely to happen. And imagery alone does not “sexualize” children as some have put it here. But sexual abuse does. If you make a study of this, the children who act out, are acting out because of some kind of abuse in the home.

[noewhan]

Blame the writers not the charter.

TV is a mess. There is that other medium called the internet, which has too much porn, and might ultimately be the excuse 'they' have been looking for to censor it.

Which is even worse, because it will still be on TV. Just all subliminal.

Then again... I'm sure that this kind of thing has been going on for a long time, and ultimately there will be something in the child's life which sparks their 'desires'. And no parent can easily avoid that.

[metacomet]

Which is why it is not to be taken seriously, its a joke.

What's a joke is that you're in here telling us to shut our mouths and 'stop being prudes' etc. You just barely acknowledged that T.V. is a mind-control device yet you say it's 'just a joke'? GTFO here. You are arguing from the same vapid, shallow viewpoint I already addressed.

I'm 22 fucking years old. I know what sexuality is and I'm not afraid of it. People like yourself are so desperate to seem a certain way that you think sexuality in any form or any venue should be acceptable.

I don't think it's cool that my little brother has his favorite television characters mixed in with sexuality.

I don't think it's cool that my little brother has TEEN SITCOMS about dating and sex pushed in his face when he just wants to watch cartoons.

It's not my job to turn the t.v. off or monitor his television and for you to suggest that people simply not watch t.v. is not some awesome revelation that we've never thought of, understand?

You're just missing the point entirely and even if you get the point you sure as hell don't want to acknowledge it :rolleyes: Got anything else?

[metacomet]

I agree that sex shouldnt be taboo, but there is something more ominous going on here behind the scenes. There is a sexual agenda being pressed on kids. Music, MTV, cartoons. DISNEY.

It's really that simple.

What blows my mind is how simple minded people constantly stand up for gigantic media coorporations and say 'Oh it's just ______ or _____... lighten up.'

:rolleyes: Some people think to be offended about anything means you are a prude. These are the people who have been systematically bred to NOT THINK. They are everywhere and I'm not one of them... glad some of you in here aren't either.

[metacomet]

Children are not blank states being written on by the television masters.

That's bullshit, friend. Children are blank slates and we all learn from what we see as children. Some people (perhaps yourself) grow up and imagine themselves to be have been above the influence etc.

Carry on with your endless apologies for the media business. I've said all I can.

[a fine naked fellow]

I never said that you are prudes who need to shut up or be coerced and be censored. I said you are a bunch of squares, prudes and goofballs who do not listen to reason and that you spawn little goofballs worse then you. Kids are intrepid and cruel. Have you seen the herd mentality in the schools lately? Its not exactly a gentle environment. Children, like all men and women whom they become, incarnate in with their own thoughts and history and personality flavors built in. It takes a hell of a lot more then dancing images to influence that infinite consciousness.

Stop expecting the TV to be a mentor. (its a joke) Does your brother realize that the sponge bob character is a character? Then what is the fucking problem?! I don’t know your brother but I can guess that unless he is a goofball like you, he will rely on something called personal integrity and not be warped by the horror that is sponge bob.

Consider allowing your brother to make up his own mind about what he sees and not bitching about things you don’t agree with. Is your brother offended by what he sees in sponge bob? Then why do you have your panties in a knot? He probably understands it’s a silly show to be laughed at and not a philosophy to base his life around.

[metacomet]

Listen goofball, I never said that you are prudes who need to shut up or be coerced and be censored. I said you are a bunch of squares, prudes and goofballs who do not listen to reason

I don't listen to reason?

You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

Kids are intrepid and cruel.

What kind of kids do you know?

I know kids, I've worked with them. At the ages I am concerned about (4-7) they are not cruel or intrepid. They're absolutely impressionable and innocent creatures.

The reason you say things like this and the reason you think this is a non-issue is because you do not have the comprehension necessary for evaluating the minds of little children and the content they watch.

I will repeat myself again to save a whole lot of time for myself:

The reason you think this is a non-issue is because you do not have the comprehension necessary for evaluating the minds of little children and the content they watch.


Consider allowing your brother to make up his own mind about what he sees and not bitching about things

Hilarious. So now little children should be the judges eh?

*shakes head in disbelief*

And you think he understands what sexual innuendo really is at an age where he's just learning to read?

This is an uphill battle, arguing with people like yourself. Catch a fucking clue.

[a fine naked fellow]

I did not know the kid is just learning to read, then why are you or whoever it is, planting him in front of the tv? Kids used to play out side and watch birds.


The reason you think this is a non-issue is because you do not have the comprehension necessary for evaluating the minds of little children and the content they watch.


Babies should be taught by parents and not by tv shows. Little children should play and learn according to their measure. Why are you allowing the tv to take on a mentor role for someone so young?! The tv is for distraction only and not for raising babies.

[ I wonder if it not also ironic to others that this 22 year old is more conservative in opinion then some of the adults with families who posted. But then, people do mature in time.]

[thetonic]

. Children, like all men and women whom they become, incarnate in with their own thoughts and history and personality flavors built in.


This is just simply not true. You are born a fairly clean slate and mommy & daddy + society do most of the programming of your ego / character...

There are certain things in your subconscious , certain templates that are there, but they need to be activated externally

The illuminati know all about the conscious / subconscious mind and they use this knowledge detrimentally against humanity. You were programmed just as I was to think a certain way, behave a certain way, respond to sexual stimulus in a certain way. Dont think for a second that you are your own creation.

[metacomet]

This is just simply not true. You are born a fairly clean slate and mommy & daddy + society do most of the programming of your ego / character...


Exactly what I think as well.

'fine naked fellow' is just sitting on the outside looking in as far as I'm concerned.

It's quite obvious the dude has never been around little children or watched them grow up... probably for the best.

You were programmed just as I was to think a certain way, behave a certain way, respond to sexual stimulus in a certain way. Dont think for a second that you are your own creation.

I'm pretty sure naked fellow is one of those types who thinks they are above influence, like I said earlier in the thread.

One of those people who calls children 'mean spirited' etc. because he was picked on as a child :rolleyes: As a result he finds it impossible to realize that all children are innocent and impressionable. Not just the ones who didn't kick sand at him on the playground.

[jonny78]

Exactly what I think as well.

'fine naked fellow' is just sitting on the outside looking in as far as I'm concerned.

It's quite obvious the dude has never been around little children or watched them grow up... probably for the best.



I'm pretty sure naked fellow is one of those types who thinks they are above influence, like I said earlier in the thread.

One of those people who calls children 'mean spirited' etc. because he was picked on as a child :rolleyes: As a result he finds it impossible to realize that all children are innocent and impressionable. Not just the ones who didn't kick sand at him on the playground.

Interesting observations Metacomet.

Plus, I wonder where this naked guy thinks all these "mean spirited" and other maladjusted types come from. You think perhaps from the constant bombardment of negative mind control and programming? Nah. C'mon get over yourselves, enjoy, and ah, don't mind the elephant over there...please.

[montag]

This thread is getting a little personal guys, can we please pull it back a notch and discuss this without the insults..

Cheers!

[a fine naked fellow]

The illuminati know all about the conscious / subconscious mind and they use this knowledge detrimentally against humanity. You were programmed just as I was to think a certain way, behave a certain way, respond to sexual stimulus in a certain way. Dont think for a second that you are your own creation.

And I am so audacious that I believe I create my reality and form my experience. Or that I am responsible for my own actions, and I don’t go blaming the hype. How retarded of me. And how equally audacious that I happen to believe in reincarnation and the eternal spirit. And so equally foolish that I think that the human brain is so dynamic and complex that even now nothing equals it, or the mind is greater still and without limits. That freedom is the nature of a man. No, the Tv really is to blame for all our ills, we are really just that flakey. Monkey see monkey do.(sarcasm)


One of those people who calls children 'mean spirited' etc. because he was picked on as a child As a result he finds it impossible to realize that all children are innocent and impressionable. Not just the ones who didn't kick sand at him on the playground.

Lets explore this idea, when I was a child and new to an area a bunch of older kids were going to hang me, as I was the wrong race. One of them even knew how to tie and damn noose. Needless to say it never came to that but I got the shit kicked out of me and they stole my shirt. ( they almost stole my pants)

Okay now these innocent little cherubim’s acted out so because they saw it in a film? Or is it more rational that racism is taught to a child, and that action is distorted through abuse, usually in the home? Nope it was the film! (sarcasm)

2 montag: sorry mate! I just really really like arguing.

[thetonic]

And I am so audacious that I believe I create my reality and form my experience. Or that I am responsible for my own actions, and I don’t go blaming the hype. How retarded of me. And how equally audacious that I happen to believe in reincarnation and the eternal spirit. And so equally foolish that I think that the human brain is so dynamic and complex that even now nothing equals it, or the mind is greater still and without limits. That freedom is the nature of a man. No, the Tv really is to blame for all our ills, we are really just that flakey. Monkey see monkey do.(sarcasm)

You can be audacious all you like, it makes little difference to me or to the ones who programmed your 'audaciousness'

Lets explore this idea, when I was a child and new to an area a bunch of older kids were going to hang me, as I was the wrong race. One of them even knew how to tie and damn noose. Needless to say it never came to that but I got the shit kicked out of me and they stole my shirt. ( they almost stole my pants)

I suppose youre trying to say here that these kids already knew how to be racist and how to make a noose from birth? Because they were racists in their prior existance?...

I dont think youve given much thought to these concepts

Okay now these innocent little cherubim’s acted out so because they saw it in a film? Or is it more rational that racism is taught to a child, and that action is distorted through abuse, usually in the home? Nope it was the film! (sarcasm)


And here you are trying to say that films , magazines , television , school, church has no influece on a persons reality or character?

yes, very audacious of you ... keep thinking that way, they love it

[a fine naked fellow]

You have not only failed to understand my argument you have failed to read correctly I what I wrote. I also suspect you do not understand sarcasm.

[a fine naked fellow]

Let me put it this way. All of this is like fat people blaming McDonalds/ burger king / fast food chains for making them fat. No one is arguing that the media isn’t fundamentally flawed and biased. But you keep putting the cart before the horse on this one.

Burger king didn’t make you fat. You have to invest time, energy and effort and be incredibly consistent in driving to the place and stuffing your mouth holes with fatty food everyday of the week. And even then you must be incredibly complacent and misinformed for the transformation to takes place and you become a fatso.

The media is not the boogie man, in order for its manipulation to work you must lend your self to it. ( or you must lend your children to it) The media doesn’t make people lemmings, people are lemmings and therefore there is media. You must be incredibly consent and dedicatedly plant yourself in front of it day after day, night after night. You then complain the media is influencing you. That’s like our fatty complaining that burger king is making him fat.

Symbolism / subliminal are a reinforcement and not a cause. In order for the media to effect you, you must give your minds away into its keeping. And not question or exercise independent thought. We are all responsible for the content and direction of our own lives. We are responsible for checking out and exploring the information we receive. If you fail to take that responsibility you really are to blame. Or you will continue to play the victim, that you are a pawn in some else’s game easily influenced, easily led. And you will always point the finger away from yourself to the latest boogie man.

[metacomet]

The media is not the boogie man, in order for its manipulation to work you must lend your self to it.

Fellow, you are clueless.

The topic is about a children's show. Children shouldn't be raised on television - we all know this. You are setting up your own strawmen to take easy punches.

Children do not 'lend themself' to manipulation, they are by nature easily manipulated and take in anything they see. If you understood this you wouldn't have wasted so much text thus far arguing for how children should be responsible for their own viewing etc.

Adults themselves are easily persuaded by outside influence and to not admit this just makes you seem arrogant.

I recommend going back to the argument that we're all just prudes.

[a fine naked fellow]

As simply as possible: If parents a dumb enough to believe in child programming and they give their children up to it. They deserve what they get, and were instrumental in creating it.

[kidsarocker]

Dslexic,

There is no question that anything on the tube is riddled with subliminal messages. But subliminal messages are not unique to children’s programming. Primary messages are: SEX, KILL, DIE, HATE. People who over react however are getting the cart before the horse on this one.

The TV creates a dream like atmosphere in the mind, and the mind can be manipulated - if it confuses fantasy with reality. But the mind is not without its own order, reason, and protection. A healthy active mind positively discerns the elements of logic and right and wrong action in any situation. Children are not blank states being written on by the television masters. Children come preloaded and prepackaged as it were, for growth and development. Fulfillment is built in the genetics. Sexuality is innate in our species since day one, and children naturally enjoy themselves and tv is not a powerful enough entity to distort the process of growth and maturity. But parental abuse and neglect is.

Parents who plant the children in front of endless movies and shows like little mushrooms are to blame. They must be responsible. I have seen parents take toddlers to movie houses and strap their babies in. The most important teacher-babysitter is the tube. That is neglect. It is no wonder then that children’s shows now own them. The parents have neglected to provide the necessary frame work.

Consider that, even with all the violent imagery, not all tv/ film watchers are killers.With all the sexual imagery not all men and women are sex perverts. Consider that logic is universal and that most are not motivated to do willful harm. Although I agree that there could be healthier alternatives, they are not likely to happen. And imagery alone does not “sexualize” children as some have put it here. But sexual abuse does. If you make a study of this, the children who act out, are acting out because of some kind of abuse in the home.

I disagree with you there. You just need to look at the rise of teenage pregnancies

[kidsarocker]

I never said that you are prudes who need to shut up or be coerced and be censored. I said you are a bunch of squares, prudes and goofballs who do not listen to reason and that you spawn little goofballs worse then you. Kids are intrepid and cruel. Have you seen the herd mentality in the schools lately? Its not exactly a gentle environment. Children, like all men and women whom they become, incarnate in with their own thoughts and history and personality flavors built in. It takes a hell of a lot more then dancing images to influence that infinite consciousness.

Stop expecting the TV to be a mentor. (its a joke) Does your brother realize that the sponge bob character is a character? Then what is the fucking problem?! I don’t know your brother but I can guess that unless he is a goofball like you, he will rely on something called personal integrity and not be warped by the horror that is sponge bob.

Consider allowing your brother to make up his own mind about what he sees and not bitching about things you don’t agree with. Is your brother offended by what he sees in sponge bob? Then why do you have your panties in a knot? He probably understands it’s a silly show to be laughed at and not a philosophy to base his life around.

It is not what he sees with his conscious, subliminals attack the subconscious


Psychological Warfare - http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1035441137419

[kidsarocker]

Let me put it this way. All of this is like fat people blaming McDonalds/ burger king / fast food chains for making them fat. No one is arguing that the media isn’t fundamentally flawed and biased. But you keep putting the cart before the horse on this one.

Burger king didn’t make you fat. You have to invest time, energy and effort and be incredibly consistent in driving to the place and stuffing your mouth holes with fatty food everyday of the week. And even then you must be incredibly complacent and misinformed for the transformation to takes place and you become a fatso.

The media is not the boogie man, in order for its manipulation to work you must lend your self to it. ( or you must lend your children to it) The media doesn’t make people lemmings, people are lemmings and therefore there is media. You must be incredibly consent and dedicatedly plant yourself in front of it day after day, night after night. You then complain the media is influencing you. That’s like our fatty complaining that burger king is making him fat.

Symbolism / subliminal are a reinforcement and not a cause. In order for the media to effect you, you must give your minds away into its keeping. And not question or exercise independent thought. We are all responsible for the content and direction of our own lives. We are responsible for checking out and exploring the information we receive. If you fail to take that responsibility you really are to blame. Or you will continue to play the victim, that you are a pawn in some else’s game easily influenced, easily led. And you will always point the finger away from yourself to the latest boogie man.

The best post you have written. It is all about how you control your life the Illuminati don't, they only show you the door, it is you who goes through it to buy the new gizmo's, the latest fashion, the latest make up, the latest bling -nothing but fake. It is about self control, to avoid temptation. Satan wants your soul but he can't take it from you, you have to submit to his sales pitch. You need to stop feeding your body and feed your soul

[noewhan]

Kids toys too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3uxeI_sB4

Check out his review on the Spongebob toys lulz.

[justnotsure]

The best post you have written. It is all about how you control your life the Illuminati don't, they only show you the door, it is you who goes through it to buy the new gizmo's, the latest fashion, the latest make up, the latest bling -nothing but fake. It is about self control, to avoid temptation. Satan wants your soul but he can't take it from you, you have to submit to his sales pitch. You need to stop feeding your body and feed your soul

Whilst I agree with this the constant intrusion of these sort of programmes/advertising/general media type stuff into our lives is creating a normality for the children today that is highly sexualised, image oriented, brash,rude and inconsiderate. I do not watch eastenders but when I am unlucky to catch it I cannot believe how people talk to each other and treat each other.My children have never been allowed to watch it. A friend and I have have just banned our kids from watching Drake and Josh and Hannah Montana because they were talking to us and each other horribly - copying the mannerisms in the programme.

I say bring back Pollyanna, Poldark and stuff like that.

[metacomet]

Kids toys too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3uxeI_sB4

Check out his review on the Spongebob toys lulz.

That's awesome :p

A friend and I have have just banned our kids from watching Drake and Josh and Hannah Montana because they were talking to us and each other horribly - copying the mannerisms in the programme.


Yeah I've seen Drake and Josh and Hannah Montana... absolute garbage.

More programming that is all about dating etc... it's honestly not funny. It's worse than the average sitcom but because it's teenagers it gets the attention of little kids who look up to teenagers...

my little brother has been saying "oh my god" like a teenage girl for over 2 months now and it's almost impossible to get him to stop because he heard these moron teenagers on t.v. say it a thousand times already.

[runciter]

When did sexuality become a bad thing?


when adults started to sexually exploit children.

[withoutwax]

http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=6110&title=The_Industry_Part_27&ref=Pimpb1420

[metacomet]

when adults started to sexually exploit children.

I find it unbelievable that an adult would ask something like 'why is sexuality a bad thing'? When we're talking about children.

It frightens me how low the social IQ for some adults is concerning children. Absolutely no common sense whatsoever.

[miracles]

I would think I was being lame and paranoid if I were 12 or so. But now that I'm older and I see little kids watching shows that have sexual innuendo and I just feel creeped out...


Dude, did it effect you when you where young watching it? No!

Its not that bad...this particular video.

[element]

And I am so audacious that I believe I create my reality and form my experience. Or that I am responsible for my own actions, and I don’t go blaming the hype. How retarded of me. And how equally audacious that I happen to believe in reincarnation and the eternal spirit. And so equally foolish that I think that the human brain is so dynamic and complex that even now nothing equals it, or the mind is greater still and without limits. That freedom is the nature of a man. No, the Tv really is to blame for all our ills, we are really just that flakey. Monkey see monkey do.(sarcasm)
Young children are innocent and ripe to be programmed. They might have the memory of pre-birth stored in their subconscious, but when they come to this world, they are programmed from the outside.
Most of adults can't take responsibility either, most people are all lambs to the slaughter buying into the perverted sexualisation agenda of society.

[element]

Lots of focus on butts.
Training the new generations to accept unethical food business.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong...:rolleyes:

It's only innocent to the untrained eye.

[miracles]

Lots of focus on butts.
Training the new generations to accept unethical food business.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong...:rolleyes:

It's only innocent to the untrained eye.

Butts = food - how so, what subliminal am I missing - it looked like focusig on square pants - It's a bit raunchgy but I wouldnt sau sexually suggestive or pornographic or paediphilic in any way. And umm do kidds have a trained eye?

seen the hidden message in the 2012 olympic logo thread? - now thats worth talking about....

[metacomet]

Dude, did it effect you when you where young watching it? No!

Its not that bad...this particular video.

Are you kidding me?

Is this really miracles talking?

Yes, watching girls portrayed as sex objects did affect me and everyone else when we were 12 years old.

I'm honestly not surprised to see so many sexually repressed males in here afraid to admit that there might be ways to activate a childs sexual centers :rolleyes: .

If you don't have the courage to admit that you yourselves were vulnerable to suggestion as children there's no way for me to expect you to admit that it happens to other kids.

And I hate to be rude but that is ignorance on a scary level.

[miracles]

Are you kidding me?

Is this really miracles talking?

Yes, watching girls portrayed as sex objects did affect me and everyone else when we were 12 years old.

I'm honestly not surprised to see so many sexually repressed males in here afraid to admit that there might be ways to activate a childs sexual centers :rolleyes: .

If you don't have the courage to admit that you yourselves were vulnerable to suggestion as children there's no way for me to expect you to admit that it happens to other kids.

And I hate to be rude but that is ignorance on a scary level.

But didnt you say that at 10 years old you weren't worried about the shape of a girls ass?

Im not sure if this particuar video is a subliminal message of sex to young kidds, the fact is parents let them watch the real thing on MTV which is a lot more harmful than a 30 second ad which parodies the real thing. Which is why Im not really sure why you see this particular clip as so abhorent. Having said that I know where your coming from and I agree 100% with the topic.

My first exposure to soft porn was as a result if disgarded center folds left in a crumpled heap at the bottom of the school yard. I was 10 or 11, also my mate next door was the same age, his old man had a collection of playboys and penthouses that stretched to the bloody roof hidden not so discreetly in his father bedroom cupboard. I got in big trouble for looking at them by my dad.

It's a fallen world, the best all wecan do is love and protect our children as best we can. No TV in the house is a start. But ultimately we can not shield them from reality for ever. This bothers me concerns me an ultimatey pisses me off no end. In a way Im glad I have a son, because I would be a lot more worried about how to protect a daughter from this shit.

[element]

Butts = food - how so, what subliminal am I missing - it looked like focusig on square pants - It's a bit raunchgy but I wouldnt sau sexually suggestive or pornographic or paediphilic in any way. And umm do kidds have a trained eye?

No, I'm not saying the butts are food..:D
See it like this, if young children accept all this butt commercials as normal, the young girls might want to dress like that too, and this attracts peadophiles.

[meksar]

They want to subliminally and openly program kids to accept sodomy as normal, there are many reasons they sodomize children, the most common one is trauma based mind control(many serial killers and psychopaths were sodomized and abused). You will of course have most homosexuals deny there is a such agenda, but would a Kids TV channel that has David Mayer Rothschild pushing his family's nonsense promote homosexuality?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--W5SB_4OIE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwFUVs5ev00

[miracles]

No, I'm not saying the butts are food..:D
See it like this, if young children accept all this butt commercials as normal, the young girls might want to dress like that too, and this attracts peadophiles.

I see what you mean.:D Its a worry that parents let there little girls wear very revealing clothes, the shops are selling them to 9 year olds, its out of order.

[miracles]

They want to subliminally and openly program kids to accept sodomy as normal, there are many reasons they sodomize children, the most common one is trauma based mind control(many serial killers and psychopaths were sodomized and abused). You will of course have most homosexuals deny there is a such agenda, but would a Kids TV channel that has David Mayer Rothschild pushing his family's nonsense promote homosexuality?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--W5SB_4OIE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwFUVs5ev00


He said E-perm not eat sperm. E- perm is an new illuminati business where by you can get you hair permed online.

Come on! Thats digging a bit deep for a conspiricay isnt it - good lord.

[strengthofknowledge]

Spongebob is very weird. They promote strange things, like homosexuality. They promoted that BIG TIME on the episode where Patrick and Spongebob are married...fucking werid.....I cant believe anyone is on the same side as the sick minded fools who make this shit go on every TV in every home brainwashing children...sick fucks...

[strengthofknowledge]

If anyone is aware of the brainwashing going on inside your television i suggest you turn it off....get the cable cut off.... I actually removed the TV from my home. Its obsolete now. Many common people cant picture there home without a Television which is Horrible because thats there MAIN weapon for mind control i mean....its in EVERY home...think of 1 house youve been to without a TV..probably cant can you? unless its an empty house... All im saying is theres no excuse to still be taking part in Illuminati ways when we Know there ways... Waking up if the first part, taking action is the next.

[starstuff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O6QE20TXCI

Perhaps I'm a prude but when I first saw that ad I was shocked. The Spongebob one just seems like more of the same to me.

[nihil]

I didn't believe that could be something as bad as Bibleman's Fight for Good, Fight for Faith .

Sadly, I found it on the first post .

Nice thread .