Why are WE here .. ?

[thunda]

What are we doing here? Why us? What makes us question and seek answers? Why don't we accept the crap 'out there'? What made us open our eyes and see it for what it is? Why me and you and not 'them'? What happenned to us to open our eyes in such a way?

Was it our childhood? The influences of our parents? Did we avoid TV when we were kid? Didn't gulp down sugar? Avoided vaccinnes?

Or were we just born like this?

Its something I'm mulling over lately and I'd be keen to hear other peoples views .. maybe if there is a common denominator, we can find what 'it' is that makes the difference ..

[herebynightfall]

-i personally avoided vaccines my whole life. just always thought my body was tough enough to cure it self over time. so far so good.

-i've never liked institutionalized education from my first day of school. not sure why. homework seemed pointless. and never was too mind expanding. not that it was my reasoning when i was 4-5 years old. i kinda just went along with life as my parents told me to.

and the reason for us here, not accepting the dull repeating matrix we're deceived into, is that we subconsciously understand our history and that our ancestors we're deceived for generations back. and we naturally take that one step out of the bubble and see the illuminati control from an outsiders perspective

as i regarded in another thread. here it is.

the thing is.
from generation to generation. for the past thousands of years.
people have been born into this world, with hierarchy and outrageous politics.
and since they are born into this world of systematic, and controlled lifestyles,
they believe that it is 'just how the world works, by luck of the draw'

there have always been those, that realize how much more life is than that which we have been experiencing it as in this prison of a system that the illuminati have set up for us over such a long time. and those people try to speak out and awaken the population that don't understand this truth. and tell them that life is just a ride, and that we are free to get on and off when we please and we can change it anytime we want.

but as bill hicks says. we kill those people. HAHAHAHA

we just have to make a choice now between LOVE and fear

the masses only have to know. that history as we are taught, is the true history of our ancestors. but it is only so, because our ancestors followed this system and doctrine that has been put in place to benefit the few at the top of the pyramid, and that is not the best system for us as humans to express our true nature.

love always.

[i am all i am]

{heading}Why are we here ?

To express and experience who we truly are.

What are we doing here?

We are BEING. All thoughts, words and actions that we have chosen have led us perfectly to this moment.

Why us?

Because we made the choice.

What makes us question and seek answers?

Ourselves. We have noticed that what we have been told to be true is not. The societal structure we see as not functional and something that does not sustain life.

Why don't we accept the crap 'out there'?

Because we have been 'in there' and realise that 'out there' is merely our collective projected creation and that it could be different if we so chose it.

What made us open our eyes and see it for what it is?

Once again, ourselves.

Why me and you and not 'them'?

Because 'me and you' have made our choice to, and 'them' have not chosen it yet.

What happenned to us to open our eyes in such a way?

We desired to be truly free.

Was it our childhood? The influences of our parents? Did we avoid TV when we were kid? Didn't gulp down sugar? Avoided vaccinnes?

All of this and more. Everything has come together to add to the totality of our experience and bring us to this moment.

Or were we just born like this?

We are all born like this. It is all our choice as to whether we accept the system or not, and therefore, whether we free ourselves or not.

Its something I'm mulling over lately and I'd be keen to hear other peoples views .. maybe if there is a common denominator, we can find what 'it' is that makes the difference ..

The common denomiator is choice.



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[auron]

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[thunda]

Good answers so far ... keep 'em coming.

You see what I'm getting at tho .. Ok, I am, you say 'choice' .. I agree .. But why did I and yourself make that choice - right down at the lowest deepest level - Yes, the freedom to choose is there in us all right from birth - but why did it flare up in the people here .. ?

I hear your other answers and agree with them .. but I tend to think it goes even deeper than that .. are we just glitches in the Matrix? Or maybe Trojan Horses? Was it fate or random? Have we all been here before through the cycles and we just happen to be further up the ladder than others? Is it a test or a challenge thats been set and we're the 'clever rats in a maze'?

I know I'm looking for the real deep answers that probably have been sought since the year dot .. but hey-ho .. :p

[i am all i am]

Good answers so far ... keep 'em coming.

You see what I'm getting at tho .. Ok, I am, you say 'choice' .. I agree .. But why did I and yourself make that choice - right down at the lowest deepest level - Yes, the freedom to choose is there in us all right from birth - but why did it flare up in the people here .. ?

I hear your other answers and agree with them .. but I tend to think it goes even deeper than that .. are we just glitches in the Matrix? Or maybe Trojan Horses? Was it fate or random? Have we all been here before through the cycles and we just happen to be further up the ladder than others? Is it a test or a challenge thats been set and we're the 'clever rats in a maze'?

I know I'm looking for the real deep answers that probably have been sought since the year dot .. but hey-ho .. :p

G'day Thunda.

I asked myself these questions about 8 years ago now...well, at other times throughout this incarnation as well, but without the same focus and intent to answer them.

There are many possiblities...well, infinite actually...as to the reasons why each of us has made our choice. For instance, we could be a group of souls that has decided to incarnate together to heal the human species so that it doesn't become extinct.

I came to the conclusion that it only really matters what I am here for. It then becomes my choice as to what I am BEING that creates my doing, not the other way around.

Maybe that is the key as to why we have made our choice. Doing didn't create what we would like to BE and we decided to BE so that we could create our doing.



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[thunda]

I've been asking them all my life - I think I had my first 'wake up' thought when I was about 6 (30 year ago now) .. pretty far out for a young kid when he should be playing with Action Men .. lol .. 'should be'.

Its from that point that I set out on the journey thats led me to this point today .. On the way I've experienced some wild and wonderful things on this path and met some amazing people - many of whom who've looked me in the eyes and said some crazy things that they have sensed from me (psychics, mediums, 'enlightened' souls etc), been pretty embarrassing at times to be truthful when I've been looked at and told "you .. you've got 'it'" .. "but you" talking to the person next to me "your just a dullard" .. yet when i've asked why / how - they just shrug their shoulders and claim they "can't see why" or "not being shown why" ..

Why dammit, why!!?!?! What marks me and others I've come across here and elsewhere to be 'different' like that?

Yes - on one hand, we should just accept it and 'do' as you say .. but knowing why would be soooooo helpful!

[fullfathomfive]

With the explosion in human population there are more and more of us asking questions. With this comes more and more knowledge. It's difficult to put into words but I'm trying to more or less say that the more questions we ask, the more answers we are likely to find.

Conversely, there are more people who don't ask questions, which is why we sometimes feel lonely. I dislike the word 'sheeple' as we are all human, with the potential that goes with it. I don't wish to be elitist in any way as I feel this leads to hubris and ignorance.

I'm sometimes overwhelmed by my wish to help people, then I realise I'm just pandering to my own ego. But then what else do I have? For all intents and purposes, I'm in this body for the long haul. I'd love to be able to change reality, let alone my own. But I'm not god. I can influence things, but create?

Perhaps. I'm probably the first person to put these letters in this order. But so what?

What was the question again? I need a lay down.

[i am all i am]

I've been asking them all my life - I think I had my first 'wake up' thought when I was about 6 (30 year ago now) .. pretty far out for a young kid when he should be playing with Action Men .. lol .. 'should be'.

Its from that point that I set out on the journey thats led me to this point today .. On the way I've experienced some wild and wonderful things on this path and met some amazing people - many of whom who've looked me in the eyes and said some crazy things that they have sensed from me (psychics, mediums, 'enlightened' souls etc), been pretty embarrassing at times to be truthful when I've been looked at and told "you .. you've got 'it'" .. "but you" talking to the person next to me "your just a dullard" .. yet when i've asked why / how - they just shrug their shoulders and claim they "can't see why" or "not being shown why" ..

Why dammit, why!!?!?! What marks me and others I've come across here and elsewhere to be 'different' like that?

Yes - on one hand, we should just accept it and 'do' as you say .. but knowing why would be soooooo helpful!

G'day Thunda.

I can totally relate with you on this. 8.5 years ago I chose to break the three fused vertevrae that were from a childhood condition. It was one way to heal it, and it also gave me the opportunity to slow down and contemplate my situation and all the thoughts that I have had throughout my life. This is when I chose to re-educate myself and rid myself of the last vestiges of the indoctrination that we all go through.

Since then, I have had people saying similar things to me that you have mentioned. I've had people see things and say things, but when you question them, they give similar responses to what you have received. Personally, I don't visualise, not even when tripping, or dream. So it would be great if someone that did could offer a bit more as to what they see and sense.

I believe that we all have the same potential/abilities. Possibly, we express different aspects of them so that we can come together to bring them forth within each other, and not rely upon one individual to lead the way. As we progress though, this will become clearer as each of us opens up to our infinite potential, and we vibrate at the frequency that will allow us to more fully comprehend this.



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[cruise4]

An Independant Spirit... our spirit isn't easily broken... survivors in the face of adversity... strong belief in ourselves... don't take things at face value... suspicious of authority... a belief in true justice... empathy to notice crimes.

We are our own authority... thats sums it up I reckon.