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chris
17-07-2007, 01:15 AM
Anyone know any good PC drum beat generators, I need to make very precise drum measurements...Any recommendations?

:cool:

21_12_2012
17-07-2007, 02:16 AM
Fruity Loops is what i use for drum beat/breakbeat creation.

I don't know how much experience you have with computer-based music.

www.flstudio.com

ashyr
17-07-2007, 03:37 AM
fruity loops is shit imo its for loops.

FRUITY LOOPS

get qbase.
or if your on 98 or any dos platfor old FAST TRACKER 2.08 was really good.

reptilianshapeshifter
17-07-2007, 10:45 AM
if you want a fast tracker clone then mad tracker should suffice for windows.

fruityloops is pretty good for making drum beats. I don't see how it's only a loop program when it supports patterns, tracks and dynamic track sizes.

cubase would be overkill and you would need to aquire a drum sampler and load it with samples as well as learn how to use it all. it's what i use to create all my drums though, but then i again i am pro :D

21_12_2012
17-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Many professionals use fruity loops...myself included !

It offers excellent control and 'fine tuning' tweakability that other software doesn't.

I also use cubase (since 1992) for sequencing the finished product...but I've found fruity loops unbeatable for breakbeats and some of the shorter stuff.

Then again, it all depends on the quality of the samples you're using.

Cubase would be far too advanced for Chris if he is a beginner and just wants to do drums.

fruity loops is shit imo its for loops

You've obviously not actually used this program properly then !

ashyr
22-07-2007, 02:25 PM
and u call yourself proffesional?
lol

ok go the superb functionality of beat placement vs in and out time. oh wait you can play with that push pull bullshit. its all a cawk.
also the resolution of placements are a crock. u cant have anything between the beat unles u make the whole pattern gigantic and up the tempo. its rediculous

oh wait you guys arnt drummers or in effect really musicians are you?
you just like LOOPS and SAMPLES>

making that mad techno?
yeah use FL.

death to the dj.
remove there skin.

21_12_2012
22-07-2007, 03:03 PM
I LOVE YOU
and u call yourself proffesional?
lol

lol actually ..yes !

making that mad techno?
yeah use FL.

death to the dj.
remove there skin.

Whatever !

Anyway..here's just a few links to prove that professionals actually do use fruity loops...extensively...let me know if you want any more links..there's millions out there...lol

http://www.the-gas-station.com/messages.cfm?type=normal&thread_id=62564&lastdays=999&
http://www.electronicmusicsoftware.com/
http://www.sonicstate.com/digital/comments.cfm?modelid=1344&srow

THANK YOU !

ashyr
22-07-2007, 04:00 PM
ill repeat myself one more time,


TECHNO and all that shitty ELECTRONIC MUSIC. its not music,
so therefore dont mistake it for talent. also there is no musicianship. so there.\
hey lets have a jam. lets create something, oh wait nah hes gotta load up his loops and samples.
hey dave let him sample your E CHORD again. sweet. ok here we go. oh wait no that guy who claims hes the center of the show with his twiddle nobs and fiddle rip off record nonsense is out of sync. hey mate can u start again? doesnt work. !

its pale imitations and cheap nock offs of the next thing feeding parasitically on the real MUSICIANS.

eternal_spirit
22-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Anyone know any good PC drum beat generators, I need to make very precise drum measurements...Any recommendations?

:cool:

Try Acoustica Beatcraft, a friend of mine who is a drummer lol installed it on my computer for me but I never use it.
As far as I know it's basically a programme that does drum beats etc.

21_12_2012
22-07-2007, 04:38 PM
I LOVE YOU
ill repeat myself one more time,


TECHNO and all that shitty ELECTRONIC MUSIC. its not music,
so therefore dont mistake it for talent. also there is no musicianship. so there.\
hey lets have a jam. lets create something, oh wait nah hes gotta load up his loops and samples.
hey dave let him sample your E CHORD again. sweet. ok here we go. oh wait no that guy who claims hes the center of the show with his twiddle nobs and fiddle rip off record nonsense is out of sync. hey mate can u start again? doesnt work. !

its pale imitations and cheap nock offs of the next thing feeding parasitically on the real MUSICIANS.

Maybe he wanted to create techno-related drums !

THANK YOU

crowd control
22-07-2007, 04:51 PM
abelton is class

ashyr
22-07-2007, 05:03 PM
well if thats the case and he wnted to make techno drum loops.

the thread would be titled "Drum Loop Program"

drum beat generator says to me he wants to generate that of a drummer with total exempt for a drummer.

hey do what you want. dont let me stop you!

deca
22-07-2007, 05:08 PM
free one`s

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/

http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/

barbitone
23-07-2007, 12:51 AM
*double post*

barbitone
23-07-2007, 12:52 AM
I thought you were cool Ashyr. Lost some serious respect from me in this thread....... It's not your opinion so much as your attitude. Childish. I've heard it all before.

I happen to be a producer of Electronic music and I use Fruityloops. I've used it for about 6 years. The best set-up for my style is Cubase with Fruity wired through it using Re-wire.

Cubase is better for recording and instrument based music. Fruity is better for pattern\sample based music.

21_12_2012
23-07-2007, 12:56 AM
I thought you were cool Ashyr. Lost some serious respect from me in this thread....... It's not your opinion so much as your attitude. Childish. I've heard it all before.

I happen to be a producer of Electronic music and I use Fruityloops. I've used it for about 6 years. The best set-up for my style is Cubase with Fruity wired through it using Re-wire.

Cubase is better for recording and instrument based music. Fruity is better for pattern\sample based music.

Well said !

I don't think Ashyr has actually ever used fruity loops...or not properly.

ashyr
23-07-2007, 01:14 AM
ahahhah considering i have producer 6 version installed right now. and ive used it alot. you would think me being a musician of almost 10 years would just avoid it. its a very powerful peice of software.
nah i dont wanna go there this is nuts. lol return the attitude aye?
and as for the respect vs attitude thing lol. your into techno arnt you? oh thats right your right in there makin the stuff. I happen to be a producer of Electronic music and I use Fruityloops.

"Truths initial comotion is always in direct proportion as to how well the lie was believed"

TECNHO JUST SUX

ok.

i dont mind that techno without lyrics. just more like ritual music. most techno is pathetic and has a mundane message "OHH BABY"

also where is the main site for all this you say.. ohthats right "THE BEDROOM" ha!!!!!

let me ask. do you play an instrument?

21_12_2012
23-07-2007, 01:29 AM
I LOVE YOU !


There's me thinking this was a thread to help Chris find some good drumbeat software ! And not some argument about hating music ! Never mind !

THANK YOU !

ashyr
23-07-2007, 02:03 AM
well hey this guy is now spoilt for choice. =D


"Chris" that is

eternal_spirit
23-07-2007, 03:01 AM
dum did e dum did de dum did de dum goes the sound of the sampled electronic drum. :D BTW put it in a search on this site you may get a freeware version www.download.com

cleft_asunder
23-07-2007, 03:51 AM
ahahhah considering i have producer 6 version installed right now. and ive used it alot. you would think me being a musician of almost 10 years would just avoid it. its a very powerful peice of software.
nah i dont wanna go there this is nuts. lol return the attitude aye?
and as for the respect vs attitude thing lol. your into techno arnt you? oh thats right your right in there makin the stuff.

"Truths initial comotion is always in direct proportion as to how well the lie was believed"

TECNHO JUST SUX

ok.

i dont mind that techno without lyrics. just more like ritual music. most techno is pathetic and has a mundane message "OHH BABY"

also where is the main site for all this you say.. ohthats right "THE BEDROOM" ha!!!!!

let me ask. do you play an instrument?

Ummm, apparently 10 years wasn't enough time for you to figure out what techno music is about. Well you certainly figured out what it's not about: "Ohh baby." That is a tiny portion of what's out there. A lot of vocal trance is related to the spirit, and the lyrics tend to be very positive. Sorry if you hate it so much, but you're missing the point: it's sounds fucking good. And I'm not convinced that it takes no skill.

cleft_asunder
23-07-2007, 03:53 AM
I LOVE YOU !


There's me thinking this was a thread to help Chris find some good drumbeat software ! And not some argument about hating music ! Never mind !

THANK YOU !

I guess he hate's electronic music in general. Man, the world would be a lot worse withough my ambient electronic space music.

truthseeker1980
23-07-2007, 05:56 PM
I agree with you Cleft.

Hardcore/techno/trance/hard house all use euphoric uplifting beats and messages. Alot of the tunes touch on spirituality, NWO, power to the people, higher states of conciousness(not necessarily drug enduced) and many of the topics we discuss on here. Any mainstream music would never touch any of these topics. I am currently working on same very interesting enlightening tunes which will get the truth message across to alot of people.

I make dance music on Fruity Loops too, the FLstudio 4 has many features. Anyway Ashyr dance music is music, just because no-one has written it or played an instrument doesn't mean there is no skill involved.

The beats may be sampled, but you could aslo be pedantic and say that you are sampling your guitar string or piano string when recording live music. Technically it is playing an instrument anyway, the PC, it doubles up as whatever you want it to.

You can also sample whatever you like, i don't know why you are hell bent on thinking that we only sample other peoples work. You can sample a burp, your fingers hitting the table and make a tune with the beats, so there is skill involved.

supertzar
23-07-2007, 06:13 PM
What exactly are you doing in regards to "precise drum measurements?"

eternal_spirit
23-07-2007, 06:21 PM
ashyr has got the balls to say what he thinks lol. I'm not going to diss you guys for doing what you enjoy doing and you're committed to it. Each to their own.

Having played guitar for over 25 years and to come up with original sounds, unlike anyone else takes alot of practice, dedication, patience not many people appreciate it, it's a different ball game and not what people expect to hear they say My (music has no drums, singing or drum machines lol) So it can be disheartening to see others sample and compose sounds on a computer so easily lol, I think that's partly were ashyr is coming from.

Maybe he should post some of his music we might like it. :D

21_12_2012
23-07-2007, 06:26 PM
I LOVE YOU
I guess he hate's electronic music in general. Man, the world would be a lot worse withough my ambient electronic space music.

He does hate electronic music in general....and the people who make it...me included ! Like i care !

Contrary to what people think...making a decent sounding club track, that actually works on the dancefloor, is not easy at all...in fact it takes a lot of hard work, time and effort...just to dispell any rumours that it's 'easy'.

I also create classical symphonies...and a wide range of music....most people think you are just a 'techno-head' if you make techno-type music...another myth !

Also i play the synthesizer, and acoustic guitar, and have played keyboards/synths for 20 years...so..its not all about 'sitting at a pc in your bedroom' LOL

Go to any nightclub in the UK/europe at the weekend, and all you'll hear is electronic music, and all you'll see is people dancing to it having a good time...

It's popularity speaks volumes...a world away from dark satanic metal music, which basically benefits nobody, if anything it assists the NWO.

THANK YOU !!

ashyr
24-07-2007, 05:32 AM
"What exactly are you doing in regards to "precise drum measurements?""

im glad someone asked.
basically increasing the lenght of the pattern or sequence. to its maximum and then putting up the TEMPO so far that you actually have a higher resolution time measurement scale. u can put the beat i so many more places now. hope that helps. its one of the things i cant get past with electronic drumming.

also to those peoplewho think im attacking them personaly.

as i have said time and time again.
the people who make "PLAYNIG OTHER PEOPLES SONGS" ripping splicing over dubbin all that crap to make what they call music is the real DJ i hate. not the people as PEOPLE but the cardboard cut out of them that is there TASK or MODE / JOB .

people who write symphony's shit my hat off to you.
people who play instruments. even more hat,
people who fiddle with buttons and cut n copy n paste much like many people do on these forums, are the DJ the JOCK(ey) that must be exterminate from this realm of MUSIC. its ruining it'

hope you all know what im saying....

supertzar
24-07-2007, 06:17 AM
A MIDI sequencer like Cubase or Logic will give you maximum control over placement of notes. You can go into a grid of 32nd notes, 64th, 128th etc. Plus use triplets and odd time signatures and anything else you might want to do. You can move notes around so they are not on the grid, too.

If you have a drum machine and you like the sound of that, you can trigger the sounds of the drum machine with the sequencer. Or you can use a software sampler/playback device such as Reason or just use the sampler that comes with the sequencer. The sounds are not in the sequencer, but whatever the sequencer is triggering, be it hardware or software.

ashyr
25-07-2007, 09:55 AM
yep. i like the idea. using miny drum mic clips thru a sequencer. and having them used as triggers when im playing the drums. sounds so brutal on a 1-2k P.A
biggest PA i have played thru would have been about 34-35k. when my band opened for pantera. even then we were turned down to 70% of capacity.

gotta laugh at it though makes me smile when im having a epilepti fit on the drums and the samples etc are all the same all the time u can kinda make a bad sound. u just play some hardout technical biltz beats and its right there going with ya. lol

beat generator
05-10-2010, 05:42 PM
Hello,

In answer to your question, I have found a site that has a Multi-track Music Sequencer with Thousands of sounds including (all of the drum sounds you'll ever need) plus, there's a Free Download of Dj software to boot. Take a Look!
Online Beat Generator (http://www.mafoca.com)

Note: I don't know how long this will last, but it's there now!

deca
05-10-2010, 06:28 PM
heres a free basic one

http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/
HammerHead is a simple TR-909-like drum computer program aiming at the dance-scene. You can use it to create perfect Techno loops, Jungle patterns or House beats, but it's also suitable for Hip Hop, Triphop, Rap, Industrial and almost any other music you can think of.

HammerHead features six separate channels, 29 built-in drum sounds, six complete breakbeats and the possibility to import six samples of your own. You can save your patterns to completely noise-free CD-quality wave files to use them with your sampler, tracker or sequencer program.