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bicycle
23-04-2009, 05:30 PM
AN animal rights extremist accused of bomb attacks on firms with links to Huntingdon Life Sciences has been added to the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists list.

A reward of $250,000 (£172,000) has been offered for information leading to the arrest of vegan Daniel Andreas San Diego (corr.), who has been on the run since 2003.

The 31-year-old is wanted in connection with attacks on biotech companies in the US which had links with the Alconbury-based animal testing facility.

The FBI said San Diego was likely to be armed and should be considered dangerous.

A known associate of the Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (Shac) campaign, he is wanted for his alleged involvement in two Californian attacks of 2003.

No-one died in the attacks, but they caused extensive damage to property.

After each bombing, a notice was placed on the internet by those claiming responsibility calling on businesses to end their association with HLS.

Further violence was threatened if the demands were not met.

Michael Heimbach, assistant director of the FBI’s counter-terrorist division, said: "We will not relent until San Diego is apprehended and his potential for future acts of violence and destruction is eliminated."

In January seven activists were jailed in the UK for running a blackmail campaign against companies linked to HLS.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=410917

cafetimes1991
23-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Hero or villain? I would lean towards calling him a hero.

starling777
23-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Hello.
It's utterly incredible to me that people are so 'human-centric' (there's a better word for it that's based around 'anthropomorphic' but I prefer my term :) I think we will be truly 'awake' and aware of our selves as Infinite Consciousness when we realise that we are one another regardless of our species! The two legged and the four legged, the furred, feathered and the finned, the rooted and the mobile...all are reflections of the same Source and therefore equally worthy of deep respect are they not? Would we wish to see people in concentration camps under Mengele? How can we abhor this but condone it for animals in places like HLS...or KFC or factory farms come to that?

I know that 'fighting' for anything we are in danger of becoming what we oppose and so the best way is to live a life that reflects the change we want to see. We all KNOW this instinctively but its bloody hard work to actaully DO it, to BE it! Violence is repulsive in whatever form but we cannot let other equal beings...other reflections of our one true SELF...suffer can we? Hero, for sure.Liberate with love and strive to dance the dream causing the least suffering possible. With love (this is my first posting!) X

cafetimes1991
23-04-2009, 06:03 PM
Hello.
It's utterly incredible to me that people are so 'human-centric' (there's a better word for it that's based around 'anthropomorphic' but I prefer my term :) I think we will be truly 'awake' and aware of our selves as Infinite Consciousness when we realise that we are one another regardless of our species! The two legged and the four legged, the furred, feathered and the finned, the rooted and the mobile...all are reflections of the same Source and therefore equally worthy of deep respect are they not? Would we wish to see people in concentration camps under Mengele? How can we abhor this but condone it for animals in places like HLS...or KFC or factory farms come to that?

I know that 'fighting' for anything we are in danger of becoming what we oppose and so the best way is to live a life that reflects the change we want to see. We all KNOW this instinctively but its bloody hard work to actaully DO it, to BE it! Violence is repulsive in whatever form but we cannot let other equal beings...other reflections of our one true SELF...suffer can we? Hero, for sure.Liberate with love and strive to dance the dream causing the least suffering possible. With love (this is my first posting!) X

Hey, starling777, welcome to the forum. Good post. :)

sedate_solution
23-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Hello.
It's utterly incredible to me that people are so 'human-centric' (there's a better word for it that's based around 'anthropomorphic' but I prefer my term :) I think we will be truly 'awake' and aware of our selves as Infinite Consciousness when we realise that we are one another regardless of our species! The two legged and the four legged, the furred, feathered and the finned, the rooted and the mobile...all are reflections of the same Source and therefore equally worthy of deep respect are they not? Would we wish to see people in concentration camps under Mengele? How can we abhor this but condone it for animals in places like HLS...or KFC or factory farms come to that?

I know that 'fighting' for anything we are in danger of becoming what we oppose and so the best way is to live a life that reflects the change we want to see. We all KNOW this instinctively but its bloody hard work to actaully DO it, to BE it! Violence is repulsive in whatever form but we cannot let other equal beings...other reflections of our one true SELF...suffer can we? Hero, for sure.Liberate with love and strive to dance the dream causing the least suffering possible. With love (this is my first posting!) X

A deep reflection on a shallow coast !, great post and welcome to the boards ! :cool:

bob_jones
23-04-2009, 08:06 PM
This mentions Huntindon Life Sciences.

The fact about it is that the People at Sundance Renewables had been bribed by Prince Charles and were attacking me with bio-warfare germs, chemical weapons and telling me they could easily kidnap me, indicating a kidnap plot.

The mention is that one of the voluntary workers of Sundance Renewables is waiting to see if he is going to be charged with conspiracy to blackmail Huntindon Life Sciences and so has on the balance of probabilities been blackmailed by the Police officers that murdered Lady Diana from Dyfed-Powys Police into helping Prince Charles' campaign of bio-warfare terrorism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMABYj6qKbc

The plot to kidnap me seems to have already been threatened to me on this forum:-

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46553

waylander
23-04-2009, 08:14 PM
AN animal rights extremist accused of bomb attacks on firms with links to Huntingdon Life Sciences has been added to the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists list.


Good !

They are all cowardly scum !!!!


Waylander:cool:

waylander
23-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Would we wish to see people in concentration camps under Mengele? How can we abhor this but condone it for animals in places like HLS...or KFC or factory farms come to that?


Bollox :)

If can't see the difference between KFC and Aushwitz you're thick as pig shit:)

Waylander:cool:

element
23-04-2009, 08:24 PM
Animal testing is a horrible practice.

The destruction and damage done to such a business is good and perhaps needed..:(

They asked for it.:cool:

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 08:37 PM
Bollox :)

If you can't see the difference between KFC and Aushwitz you're thick as pig shit:)

Waylander:cool:

Arrhhhh yet another short, enlightening post by waylander. :rolleyes:

If you cant see that all organisms are equal, I suggest that you are what you write.


P.S. I had to add the word you to the quote, because you forgot to write it.

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 08:39 PM
Animal testing is a horrible practice.

The destruction and damage done to such a business is good and perhaps needed..:(

They asked for it.:cool:

I agree, taking out their facilities to conduct torture experiments in such a destrutive manner IMO is "freedom fighting" not terrorism. :):cool:

waylander
23-04-2009, 08:43 PM
If you cant see that all organisms are equal,

If you believe that, you were a waste of education.:)

Humans are far more important than animals. :cool:

Waylander:cool:

P.S. I used the word kindaliggas because you forgot:confused:

boots
23-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Hero or villain? I would lean towards calling him a hero.

Then you align yourself with what you fight.


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boots
23-04-2009, 08:55 PM
Animal testing is a horrible practice.

The destruction and damage done to such a business is good and perhaps needed..:(

They asked for it.:cool:

Yes it is.

How is it good ? What you are advocating is flat out evil and will not change anything in fact it will strengthen he resolve of the animal testing people, with the backing of the FBI.

:rolleyes:

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 08:55 PM
If you believe that, you were a waste of education.:)


LOL, education? That would of been beneficial yes. But I WAS a waste of the indoctrination system as I saw through it from an early age.

Humans are far more important than animals.

From what I have seen of you on this forum waylander, I believe you still are stuck in the indoctrination system and contribute nothing but insensitive, ignorant garbage.

Good Luck awakening from your coma. ;)

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 08:58 PM
Yes it is.

How is it good ? What you are advocating is flat out evil and will not change anything in fact it will strengthen he resolve of the animal testing people, with the backing of the FBI.

:rolleyes:

You do have a point there boots, I'll give you that.

So are you for or against animal testing?

boots
23-04-2009, 08:58 PM
I agree, taking out their facilities to conduct torture experiments in such a destrutive manner IMO is "freedom fighting" not terrorism. :):cool:

Not in the eye's of the law and society in general. There are better ways of changing things. Instead of becoming what you fight.

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boots
23-04-2009, 09:02 PM
You do have a point there boots, I'll give you that.

So are you for or against animal testing?

You bet I am. It's horrible and it doesn't do anything but keep corporations viable and killing humans with chemicals.

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element
23-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Yes it is.

How is it good ? What you are advocating is flat out evil and will not change anything in fact it will strengthen he resolve of the animal testing people, with the backing of the FBI.

:rolleyes:
No it isn't ''evil''..

Some things are better to be put asleep:cool:,
these kind of businesses are just one example.

I don't like violence, I can't even kill a insect without feeling bad.

Animal torture is flat out evil.:rolleyes:

waylander
23-04-2009, 09:05 PM
From what I have seen of you on this forum waylander, I believe you still are stuck in the indoctrination system and contribute nothing but insensitive, ignorant garbage.

;)

Shucks Hunny you do love me :):):)

Waylander:cool:

P.S. If classing Humans as more important than animals make me ignorant and insensitive,,I'm glad I'am:cool:;):)

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 09:06 PM
You bet I am. It's horrible and it doesn't do anything but keep corporations viable and killing humans with chemicals.

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So I'd be correct in thinking you use absolutely no products tested on animals then? That is if you practice what you preach of non-compliance of course. :)

boots
23-04-2009, 09:10 PM
No it isn't ''evil''..

Some things are better to be put asleep:cool:,
these kind of businesses are just one example.

I don't like violence, I can't even kill a insect without feeling bad.

Animal torture is flat out evil.:rolleyes:

You dont like violence? Yet you do agree with the way it is done and applaud it.


Double standards.

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boots
23-04-2009, 09:15 PM
So I'd be correct in thinking you use absolutely no products tested on animals then? That is if you practice what you preach of non-compliance of course. :)

No I dont use any deodorant are any Pharmaceuticals and only use natural soap with no additives. I cant say everything because sometimes it boil's down to how much is left in my pay packet at the end of the week and what I can afford.

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element
23-04-2009, 09:20 PM
You dont like violence? Yet you do agree with the way it is done and applaud it.


Double standards.

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Blablabla...keep focusing on me and justify all of this.

''No-one died in the attacks, but they caused extensive damage to property.''

GJ imo.. let the business knows what it stands for. It's a violent business so obviously that's what it will attract..haha.

Ian2day
23-04-2009, 09:23 PM
Has nothing more than my uptmost respect. I dont have what it takes to stand up for my beliefs like this person has.

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 09:24 PM
No I dont use any deodorant are any Pharmaceuticals and only use natural soap with no additives. I cant say everything because sometimes it boil's down to how much is left in my pay packet at the end of the week and what I can afford.

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These companies are very sneaky, just because a product is labeled "natural" it can still contain animal ingredients or ingredients that were tested on animals.

The same with the new EU laws that ban compaines from conducting animal testing for cosmetics - it doesnt stop them including ingredients in their products that may have been tested elsewhere.

So its important to know what really is in the toiletries you're buying.

This thread may be of use to you and others:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61745

boots
23-04-2009, 09:40 PM
These companies are very sneaky, just because a product is labeled "natural" it can still contain animal ingredients or ingredients that were tested on animals.

The same with the new EU laws that ban compaines from conducting animal testing for cosmetics - it doesnt stop them including ingredients in their products that may have been tested elsewhere.

So its important to know what really is in the toiletries you're buying.

This thread may be of use to you and others:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61745

Yeah it's a good thread.

The soap I use is Velvet a very old Australian company and cheap too. dont know about the shampoo.

All corporation suck even the good one's because they are polluting with their industrial waste.

So what would be your solution to a company like this one? (animal testing)

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cleopatraxxx
23-04-2009, 09:41 PM
Shucks Hunny you do love me :):):)

Waylander:cool:

P.S. If classing Humans as more important than animals make me ignorant and insensitive,,I'm glad I'am:cool:;):)

some humans are less humane than animals.

As EINSTEINS SAID: "everything is relative"

killing is as bad as living in hate.

all prphets and clever man/woman always advised to live in LOVE bringing PEACE into our surroundings. If some humans need to be taught a lesson to stop execusions and merciless killings of animals or humans, then be it. sometimes that is the only way.

C

boots
23-04-2009, 09:47 PM
Blablabla...keep focusing on me and justify all of this.

''No-one died in the attacks, but they caused extensive damage to property.''

GJ imo.. let the business knows what it stands for. It's a violent business so obviously that's what it will attract..haha.

Huh:confused: Dont feel to paranoid mate.

Yep that's what it will attract and you feed it with your energy of compliance. So what's your solution?

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waylander
23-04-2009, 09:50 PM
all prphets and clever man/woman always advised to live in LOVE bringing PEACE into our surroundings. If some humans need to be taught a lesson to stop execusions and merciless killings of animals or humans, then be it. sometimes that is the only way.

C

So to teach people to live in love bringing peace unto their surroundings,
you propose blowing the shit out of them with a bomb:confused:

Bit of a mixed message their. Hardly humane.

I have killed many animals, I have hated non, I have the utmost respect for them.

Waylander:cool:

infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 10:21 PM
Yeah it's a good thread.

The soap I use is Velvet a very old Australian company and cheap too. dont know about the shampoo.

All corporation suck even the good one's because they are polluting with their industrial waste.

So what would be your solution to a company like this one? (animal testing)

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A company that is Vegan society registered or HCS (Humane Cosmetics Standard) and/or HHPS (Humane Household Products Standard) registered. Or linked with similar Ethical assosiations.

Steer clear of the Body Shop as they were bought by L'Oreal, a giant in animal experimentation.

As for a particular company for an Australian consumer, I dunno, but there are loads companies that will ship internationally.

http://www.gocrueltyfree.org/companies.php

boots
23-04-2009, 10:35 PM
:cool:

Thanks for the info.

What would be your solution infin8_possibility to stopping a company like this?

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infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 11:04 PM
:cool:

Thanks for the info.

What would be your solution infin8_possibility to stopping a company like this?

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The simplist method, a mass boycott of their products - hit 'em where it hurts; their profit margin. If they have no cash, then they cant afford to pay "scientists" (executers) in labs to sadistically torture innocent animals in the name of "science."

But mass boycotts of vanity companies like L'Oreal are unlikely as most people, mainly the "plastics" of society are too ignorant or plain don't give a fuck to jump on the bandwagon.

So I think these issues need more exposure. And unfortunately its the more destrutive methods that make the MSM headlines and bring the reality of the situation into the forefront of peoples minds. More information needs flooding into the public arena, which organisations like PETA, BUAV and others strive for. Then if enough people are educated, boycotts will be a piece of piss and the house of needles will fall.

Although I have to say, I don't frown upon groups like the Animal Liberation Front as they save thousands of animals from cruel science.

boots
23-04-2009, 11:28 PM
The simplist method, a mass boycott of their products - hit 'em where it hurts; their profit margin. If they have no cash, then they cant afford to pay "scientists" (executers) in labs to sadistically torture innocent animals in the name of "science."

But mass boycotts of vanity companies like L'Oreal are unlikely as most people, mainly the "plastics" of society are too ignorant or plain don't give a fuck to jump on the bandwagon.

So I think these issues need more exposure. And unfortunately its the more destrutive methods that make the MSM headlines and bring the reality of the situation into the forefront of peoples minds. More information needs flooding into the public arena, which organisations like PETA, BUAV and others strive for. Then if enough people are educated, boycotts will be a piece of piss and the house of needles will fall.

Although I have to say, I don't frown upon groups like the Animal Liberation Front as they save thousands of animals from cruel science.


That's way you would have to make people aware. L'Oreal would be an good target as they are a big corporation. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

I think it has to be more of a ground swell movement. without the destructive methods as that would only put people off and leaves the movement open for ridicule.


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infin8_possibility
23-04-2009, 11:51 PM
I think it has to be more of a ground swell movement. without the destructive methods as that would only put people off and leaves the movement open for ridicule.


Yes, but some animal liberations and destruction of facilities can serve a purpose so long as no one gets hurt.

No such thing as bad publicity. Does it not plants seeds into peoples minds regarding animal testing?

waylander
24-04-2009, 12:11 AM
Yes, but some animal liberations and destruction of facilities can serve a purpose so long as no one gets hurt.

Some animal liberartions ,,such as Mink caused more habitat damage and destruction of indiginous species than several thousand years of man. They wiped out Swans, Otters and fish stock. Having no natural preditors they became the top of the food chain and devastated local wild life. The thick twats that do this should be locked up.

No such thing as bad publicity.Paul Gadd may disagree.



Waylander:cool:

infin8_possibility
24-04-2009, 12:24 AM
Don't add to my quotes waylander as people may get the impression I wrote it, thats not cool. You also posted a passage of writing, but with no link.

And anyway, where do you think these labs get the wild animals from??? They kidnap them from their own habitat. If mink live in the wild, and if they have no natural predators then it makes no difference if they then get liberated back into that habitat...

Hopefully the resident forum zoologist will clear that up.

And whoever this Paul Gadd is, he sounds like a total shill.

waylander
24-04-2009, 12:32 AM
Don't add to my quotes waylander as people may get the impression I wrote it, thats not cool. You also posted a passage of writing, but with no link.

And anyway, where do you think these labs get the wild animals from??? They kidnap them from their own habitat. If mink live in the wild, and they have no natural predators then it makes no difference if they then get liberated back into that habitat...

Hopefully the resident forum zoologist will clear that up.

I havent added to your quote. The red writing is my reply. Simple innit:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Mink don't live in the wild in this country. Hence why they totally wipe out the wild life when some thick dipshit "liberates" them.

The fact they they have no natural predators is not a good thing, its a very bad thing. natural predation is natures way of keeping a balance.:rolleyes:


What passage of writing needs a link:confused:

Waylander:cool:

waylander
24-04-2009, 12:33 AM
And whoever this Paul Gadd is, he sounds like a total shill.

Gary Glitter.

Waylander:cool:

infin8_possibility
24-04-2009, 01:01 AM
I havent added to your quote. The red writing is my reply.

Well dont write it in the quote box then.

Mink don't live in the wild in this country.

I assume you mean the UK. Wrong, there are two living species of mink; the American Mink and the European Mink. Releasing Ameican Mink onto European land, Im all for that compared with the alternative. And anyway, they dont "wipe out" wildlife like Gary Glitter - than man you decided to quote from says. They hunt just like most other wild animals do, they eat fish and other aquatic life, small mammals (rabbits especially), and birds, particularly water fowl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mink

The fact they they have no natural predators is not a good thing, its a very bad thing. natural predation is natures way of keeping a balance.

Wrong again, Great Horned Owls, bobcat and fox are the natural predators of mink.

Its a good job Rixxmixxhell isnt on tonight, cause he would of absolutely destroyed you.

Enjoy your coma... ;)

waylander
24-04-2009, 01:09 AM
Well dont write it in the quote box then.

Okay I'll try not to :rolleyes:

I assume you mean the UK. Wrong, there are two living species of mink; the American Mink and the European Mink. Releasing Ameican Mink onto European land, Im all for that compared with the alternative. And anyway, they dont "wipe out" wildlife like Gary Glitter - than man you decided to quoteWhere did I try to quote from him :confused: show me! from says. They hunt just like most other wild animals do, they eat fish and other aquatic life, small mammals (rabbits especially), and birds, particularly water fowl.



Wrong again, Great Horned Owls, bobcat and fox are the natural predators of mink.Yes and it good sport hunting them with dogs;):)

Its a good job Rixxmixxel isnt on tonight, cause he would of absolutely destroyed you.Boo Hoo:p

Enjoy your coma... ;)It was a madras actually

Waylander:cool:

infin8_possibility
24-04-2009, 01:29 AM
Where did I try to quote from him show me!

Well seeing as though you initially posted no source for the paragraph of information but added the name Paul Gadd at the bottom, it was hard to distinguish who had said it. I wasnt aware Paul Gadd was Gary Glitter till you mentioned it.

Yes and it good sport hunting them with dogs

Well I disrespect you for that.

Anyway, things are getting off topic, Im no longer prepared to discuss these matters with someone who obviously doesnt give a shit about animal welfare. And I dont want to contribute to putting this thread into the rant room.

Peace.

waylander
24-04-2009, 01:42 AM
with someone who obviously doesnt give a shit about animal welfare. .

Do you ever get tired of being wrong :rolleyes:

That is so far from the truth. You have blinkered views:(:(

Waylander:cool:

bob_jones
24-04-2009, 10:14 AM
1. Whatever goes on two legs is an enemy.
2. Whatever goes on four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
3. No animal shall wear clothes.
4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5. No animal shal drink alcohol.
6. No animal shal kill another animal.
7. All animals are equal.

My mate says that Noam Chompski says that if the pigs overthown Mr.Jones in a revolution then a terrible dictaorship will come to the UK.

This is my warning to you commrades.:eek:

lostinstrangeworld
24-04-2009, 10:19 AM
This mentions Huntindon Life Sciences.

The fact about it is that the People at Sundance Renewables had been bribed by Prince Charles and were attacking me with bio-warfare germs, chemical weapons and telling me they could easily kidnap me, indicating a kidnap plot.

The mention is that one of the voluntary workers of Sundance Renewables is waiting to see if he is going to be charged with conspiracy to blackmail Huntindon Life Sciences and so has on the balance of probabilities been blackmailed by the Police officers that murdered Lady Diana from Dyfed-Powys Police into helping Prince Charles' campaign of bio-warfare terrorism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMABYj6qKbc

The plot to kidnap me seems to have already been threatened to me on this forum:-

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46553

I can believe this.

A lady I knew well received threats from HLS too.

bob_jones
24-04-2009, 01:57 PM
I can believe this.

A lady I knew well received threats from HLS too.

The thing is, its fasion.
The pigs have been accusing mme of blackmail for years but try not to get caught at it by me.
They tried to say I was blackmailing Nipa Laboratories.
Inspector Siddal went to poody when he told me that what I was doing could be against the law because he had had the Daily Mail and a lot of papers on the phone way back in Spring 1999.
I asked him what law was that and he said "Demanding money with menaces" I asked him to expain what the menaces are and he couldn't do it and so I had to explain to him that he couldn't explain what the menaces are without telling the truth.
Another time DC Rowlands asked me if I fancied "Coming up this way" to talk to them about it and they refused to pay for fuel costs.
He ended up telling me I could sue Nipa Laboratories for deformation of character.
I agree.
But by this time Tony Blair was on the make to change the law "to say" I'm a psychopath and so all Cherie's friends in the justice departments (Lord Charceloor, DPP etc) have wanted a blackmailer ever since.
But Siddal was allowed to head-but me in Le Caprice and bribe the "Beast of Betws Y Coed" to knife me and bury me in the woods and be part of the attack on Dunfirmline with bio-warfare germs for voting out the labour Party in a bye-election and play one of the actors in the multi-media film of the London bombers having a group hug. That was only put out because I was talking to the opposition and laughing about the silly story they made up about the London bombers going white water rafting with Gethin in Bala.
And now they use the threat of prosecution for blackmail to blackmail someone into bio-warfare terrorism.
Typical!!
7. SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS (OINK OINK)

mountain
24-04-2009, 05:51 PM
Its a good job Rixxmixxhell isnt on tonight, cause he would of absolutely destroyed you.

Enjoy your coma... ;)

:D Yes Rixx is the our certified animal expert, I am with you on that one 8... :D

bob_jones
25-04-2009, 12:59 AM
Always be careful of people that use good causes to do bad things.

The ends justify the means.

The needs of the many outway the needs of the few.

You hear it from evil dooers throught history and New Labour - New World Order etc,

So it goes for animal rights too.

bob_jones
29-04-2009, 11:59 PM
All animals are equal.

Join the pigs and quaks to overthrow Mr. Jones in a revolution today!!!

(By order of the management Napoleon and Snowball)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MvzkMbohQ&NR=1