View Full Version : I would like some careers advice..
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 03:34 PM
Hi guys. Not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post this but here goes..
I have been following the work of David Icke and others like him for a about 3 years now. I am 24 years old and have been in and out of part-time retail jobs since i left school.
I am more than capable of doing very well at University and so i think with things the way they are, and knowing i hate retail, it would be good to get myself to University. Now i understand that any state education is probably going to be biased, misguided or maybe even just plain bollocks! But i feel i am vigilant enough now to be able to work around that in one way or another.
Anyway i am so confused as to which kind of subject to study, i am into a range of things generally from the sciences and social studies to the humanities of english, history and philosophy.
I am not a materialistic person, i just want a career where i can feel i am doing something of real worth toward helping this planet, and its inhabitants ,to exist with love, truth and freedom.
Any thoughts or suggestions? maybe some examples of what you guys do?
I need something mentally stimulating, working within nature would be nice too. I am interesting in philosophy but is that something i can study at home witout the need for a degree in it? some degree of creativity would be nicetoo but again is that something i can do alone?
thanks
lostwonderer
22-04-2009, 03:48 PM
Sounds abit like me.
Would something artistic interest you?
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 03:53 PM
Sounds abit like me.
Would something artistic interest you?
It would, i play guitar and keyboard a little and would love to give creative writing a go. or even researched factual writing for that matter.
amongst other things
lostwonderer
22-04-2009, 04:04 PM
Well i see you pretty much have a attraction in studies of most fields. A mixture of everything. I guess thats where hard part of the decision lies. What area are you most passionate about?
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 04:08 PM
Well i see you pretty much have a attraction in studies of most fields. A mixture of everything. I guess thats where hard part of the decision lies. What area are you most passionate about?
Not sure really. even having trouble discerning what i am already good at. I feel i can do almost anything with a bit of training so its tough to narrow down the choices. I know i don't want to be stuck in a building al day.
baron von lotsov
22-04-2009, 04:14 PM
Hi guys. Not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post this but here goes..
I have been following the work of David Icke and others like him for a about 3 years now. I am 24 years old and have been in and out of part-time retail jobs since i left school.
I am more than capable of doing very well at University and so i think with things the way they are, and knowing i hate retail, it would be good to get myself to University. Now i understand that any state education is probably going to be biased, misguided or maybe even just plain bollocks! But i feel i am vigilant enough now to be able to work around that in one way or another.
Anyway i am so confused as to which kind of subject to study, i am into a range of things generally from the sciences and social studies to the humanities of english, history and philosophy.
I am not a materialistic person, i just want a career where i can feel i am doing something of real worth toward helping this planet, and its inhabitants ,to exist with love, truth and freedom.
Any thoughts or suggestions? maybe some examples of what you guys do?
I need something mentally stimulating, working within nature would be nice too. I am interesting in philosophy but is that something i can study at home witout the need for a degree in it? some degree of creativity would be nicetoo but again is that something i can do alone?
thanks
Don't do social sciences or things like philosophy if you want to avoid brainwashing. Go for a hard science like physics or do maths. With maths you can go into finance and make a fair bit of cash.
lostwonderer
22-04-2009, 04:22 PM
Don't do social sciences or things like philosophy if you want to avoid brainwashing. Go for a hard science like physics or do maths. With maths you can go into finance and make a fair bit of cash.
What? Since when was all social science subjects associated with brainwashing? I don't see a problem with most of them, they engage in many areas of human importance.
les_paul_robot
22-04-2009, 04:37 PM
There always seems to be civil engineering jobs available. And that is the easiest of the engineering types. A Civil's idea of a precision instrument is a lawnmower.
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 05:21 PM
Neither finance or engineering really appeals to me.
les_paul_robot
22-04-2009, 05:28 PM
What about teaching? Stab proof vests are about £20 on eBay...
lostwonderer
22-04-2009, 06:01 PM
How about Archaeology? It is partially one of the careers that i have always found fascinating and most endearing.
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 06:08 PM
How about Archaeology? It is partially one of the careers that i have always found fascinating and most endearing.
Yeah that is definitely one to consider, it ticks most of the boxes for me i must say. I mean career prospects aren't the best it seems but sod that. I expect the world will be somewhat different to today in a short amount of time anyway. certainly the financial state of the world at least.
baron von lotsov
22-04-2009, 06:22 PM
What? Since when was all social science subjects associated with brainwashing? I don't see a problem with most of them, they engage in many areas of human importance.
The brainwashing was ramped up in the 1960s with subjects like sociology. Now the new sociology is media studies. I have been though all this shit so I'm talking from experience.
chris
22-04-2009, 06:24 PM
Mindrevolution, If I were you I'd be realistic about what you would be able to get into after you've studied.
Imagine spending 4 years studying and then coming out to be in the midst of a depression and only have a philosophy or history degree. It would be a complete waste.
My advice would be to find something which is least likely to get hurt in a depression be pointed in your persuit to get that job or field your after.
bornagain
22-04-2009, 06:41 PM
Lawyer, you could help people in need. Also this includes history and philosophy, this is actually what I am thinking of becoming apart from a ninja :D
~Born Again
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 06:53 PM
The brainwashing was ramped up in the 1960s with subjects like sociology. Now the new sociology is media studies. I have been though all this shit so I'm talking from experience.
So you would avoid sociology?
Mindrevolution, If I were you I'd be realistic about what you would be able to get into after you've studied.
Imagine spending 4 years studying and then coming out to be in the midst of a depression and only have a philosophy or history degree. It would be a complete waste.
My advice would be to find something which is least likely to get hurt in a depression be pointed in your persuit to get that job or field your after.
Thanks, thats not bad advice.
Lawyer, you could help people in need. Also this includes history and philosophy, this is actually what I am thinking of becoming apart from a ninja :D
~Born Again lol yeah Ninja would be cool. I don't know what to make of the law, I don't agree with a lot of laws made and if i thought one of my clients was guilty of something bad i would never try and defend them. The study of law takes longer than your average studies too doesn't it?
tracker
22-04-2009, 06:56 PM
Hi guys. Not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post this but here goes..
I have been following the work of David Icke and others like him for a about 3 years now. I am 24 years old and have been in and out of part-time retail jobs since i left school.
I am more than capable of doing very well at University and so i think with things the way they are, and knowing i hate retail, it would be good to get myself to University. Now i understand that any state education is probably going to be biased, misguided or maybe even just plain bollocks! But i feel i am vigilant enough now to be able to work around that in one way or another.
Anyway i am so confused as to which kind of subject to study, i am into a range of things generally from the sciences and social studies to the humanities of english, history and philosophy.
I am not a materialistic person, i just want a career where i can feel i am doing something of real worth toward helping this planet, and its inhabitants ,to exist with love, truth and freedom.
Any thoughts or suggestions? maybe some examples of what you guys do?
I need something mentally stimulating, working within nature would be nice too. I am interesting in philosophy but is that something i can study at home witout the need for a degree in it? some degree of creativity would be nicetoo but again is that something i can do alone?
thanks
Not being materialistic is a great advantage if you want to start at Uni.
that doesnt need an explination as to why .
the only thing you need to do is give your self a break , not from work , but from thinking about Uni .
why ?
the energy going into thinking of uni , with out knowing what to go for will dwindle your enthusiasm eventually .
a good idea is to just relax at 1st , maybe a week or two .
after this , when relaxing , what you enjoy most will probably surface , ( not such as a career , but as an interest that you may want to look at )
after a while , of looking and researching this interest , hobby / anything you like , it will eventually come clear to you as to whether you actually like it or not .
when you find your self wanting more of the interest , like
saving some dosh to get bits or books , things like that , this will be your inner self showing you what it is you wish to pursue .
it will then be that subject or something connected to it that you should follow , but until then , give your mind some time off waondering what to do , as you will soon find it when your not looking for it .
you'll know whether its you or not because a feeling of exitement and fear will rush you like a steam train .
exitement because its real , fear because its not been you until now and you havent been used to it . we sometimes fear what we are not used too .
exitement and fear , you will feel them both at the same time , but give your self a break for a couple of weeks and just persue an interest that youve always wondered about . after a while , you'll know if you like it or not , and that will be your answer .:cool:
moondancer
22-04-2009, 07:04 PM
Tough one this.. as most of us here just want to sack it all off n drop out the system!
If I had my time again I would either be designing houses, be a forest ranger or have my own organic business :D
I would definitely have gone travellin round the world before getting into the rat race too :)
bornagain
22-04-2009, 07:04 PM
lol yeah Ninja would be cool. I don't know what to make of the law, I don't agree with a lot of laws made and if i thought one of my clients was guilty of something bad i would never try and defend them. The study of law takes longer than your average studies too doesn't it?
As long as you have the air of confidence and know how to manipulate laws and people in your favor believe me, you will charm them right into your trap, at least that is how I look at it. It takes uhhh.....four years for bachelors and three years of law school not too bad actually, but yes definitely longer than other careers.
~Born Again
Ian2day
22-04-2009, 07:23 PM
Education is a CON artists paradise.
baron von lotsov
22-04-2009, 07:30 PM
So you would avoid sociology?
Thanks, thats not bad advice.
Yes indeed I would, but I would go much further than that and avoid all arts subjects. I mean anything to do with it, even English or fine art. These communists have well and truly infiltrated all higher education, and at a guess I would say you are more likely to end up suffering from depression and have an awful time. Where I was there is some big tower, and during finals people used to regularly jump off it.
However the subjects that cannot be used for brainwashing are those where there is no possible interpretation factor in it. Maths is well recommended as it will make you intelligent, and you need to be these days. I did physics myself and I’d recommend that, and also chemistry, computing, engineering and so on.
mindrevolution
22-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Yes indeed I would, but I would go much further than that and avoid all arts subjects. I mean anything to do with it, even English or fine art. These communists have well and truly infiltrated all higher education, and at a guess I would say you are more likely to end up suffering from depression and have an awful time. Where I was there is some big tower, and during finals people used to regularly jump off it.
However the subjects that cannot be used for brainwashing are those where there is no possible interpretation factor in it. Maths is well recommended as it will make you intelligent, and you need to be these days. I did physics myself and I’d recommend that, and also chemistry, computing, engineering and so on.
I see. Well Chemistry looks promising. There are going to be a lot of people in my situation, who feel state education is corrupt but also who feel thye should still go to university.
My friends 17 year old Bother is doing A level philosophy amongst other subjects but already he has started using terms like 'cod philosophy' to describe works that don't fit in with the academically accepted view of what philosophy is. Hes in his first year of that still, the term feels a bit elitist to me thats all. an example of the wau education is taught perhaps..
I did come up with a list of things I would like to get from a degree or skills i would like to gain etc
1. I want to learn to cummunicate effectively through writing and speaking.
2. I want a career that will be beneficial to the world as a whole, so something kind of meaningful.
3. I'd like a course where the knowledge can be applied for practical purposes rather than just theory all day and no action. I did Psychology for a bit at A level and too often i was thinking errr ok? so what should we do then knowing that info etc etc.
4. Learning how to argue effectively and how to structure an argument (philosophy?)
5 Another things that would be nice are degrees where i will learn some historical background and something health orientated might be good but not necessary. Also some kind of creativity would be very good (that could mean being creative regarding a scientific experiment for example and not necessarily art based....
:)
mightiswrong
23-04-2009, 12:39 AM
1. I want to learn to cummunicate effectively through writing and speaking.
2. I want a career that will be beneficial to the world as a whole, so something kind of meaningful.
3. I'd like a course where the knowledge can be applied for practical purposes rather than just theory all day and no action. I did Psychology for a bit at A level and too often i was thinking errr ok? so what should we do then knowing that info etc etc.
4. Learning how to argue effectively and how to structure an argument (philosophy?)
5 Another things that would be nice are degrees where i will learn some historical background and something health orientated might be good but not necessary. Also some kind of creativity would be very good (that could mean being creative regarding a scientific experiment for example and not necessarily art based....
:)
I would suggest natural medicine from plants as important knowledge that we are loosing very quickly such that it is an emergency situation to increase knowledge of plant medicine. This naturally ties in with permaculture which is the ideal way to help the world both Man and nature (Man is part of nature). Check out this information http://www.anastasiasgarden.com/library/healinggardens/ and see how you feel about helping cocreate a new civilisation.
baron von lotsov
23-04-2009, 12:56 AM
I see. Well Chemistry looks promising. There are going to be a lot of people in my situation, who feel state education is corrupt but also who feel thye should still go to university.
My friends 17 year old Bother is doing A level philosophy amongst other subjects but already he has started using terms like 'cod philosophy' to describe works that don't fit in with the academically accepted view of what philosophy is. Hes in his first year of that still, the term feels a bit elitist to me thats all. an example of the wau education is taught perhaps..
I did come up with a list of things I would like to get from a degree or skills i would like to gain etc
1. I want to learn to cummunicate effectively through writing and speaking.
2. I want a career that will be beneficial to the world as a whole, so something kind of meaningful.
3. I'd like a course where the knowledge can be applied for practical purposes rather than just theory all day and no action. I did Psychology for a bit at A level and too often i was thinking errr ok? so what should we do then knowing that info etc etc.
4. Learning how to argue effectively and how to structure an argument (philosophy?)
5 Another things that would be nice are degrees where i will learn some historical background and something health orientated might be good but not necessary. Also some kind of creativity would be very good (that could mean being creative regarding a scientific experiment for example and not necessarily art based....
:)
Psychology is the biggest load of lies, and I knew someone who took a degree in it and said the same, so keep well clear of that one. Philosophy is a similar kind of mind-fuck and will just leave you confused as hell and will actually be an impediment to getting a job. ‘Communication skills’ is another load of crap and if you want to learn to do that I suggest you go out a bit more and meet some people with a brain.
To do something meaningful sounds awfully wishy-washy and so if I were you I'd focus on what kind of job you want and then figure out what you need for it. A lot of sensible employers will respect a maths degree as one of the top, together with physics because they are difficult subjects by comparison. Engineering is fun because there is a practical side to it if you like building projects and that sort of thing. The sciences do lab work, so you get about one day a week in the lab, which I quite enjoyed. The liquid nitrogen especially! But go for a core subject, whatever you do and then you can get a wide range of jobs. It's all down to what you like doing, and whatever that is you will do much better at it than something you find boring. The brainwashed in my university were nearly all arts degree students, and never do a politics degree unless you fancy joining the Communist Party.
mindrevolution
23-04-2009, 01:03 PM
To do something meaningful sounds awfully wishy-washy .
What i mean by that is that i don't want to do something with my own personal monetary gain in mind. I don't want the aim of my career to be to earn as much as i can so that i can gain material wealth...nicer car, bigger house etc.
Its like i currently work in retail, the aim of that job is to work hard in an absolutely mind numbing setting to try and ensure that a usually already wealthy owner or board of directors can get even more wealthy.
Thanks for all the replies, i am still not sure what to do obviously but this thread has been an eye opener in some respects so far....I am especially surprised by the number of people against doing any of the humanities or social sciences due to brainwashing/ false information. Very interesting.
lostwonderer
23-04-2009, 01:33 PM
Psychology is the biggest load of lies, and I knew someone who took a degree in it and said the same, so keep well clear of that one. Philosophy is a similar kind of mind-fuck and will just leave you confused as hell and will actually be an impediment to getting a job. ‘Communication skills’ is another load of crap and if you want to learn to do that I suggest you go out a bit more and meet some people with a brain.
To do something meaningful sounds awfully wishy-washy and so if I were you I'd focus on what kind of job you want and then figure out what you need for it. A lot of sensible employers will respect a maths degree as one of the top, together with physics because they are difficult subjects by comparison. Engineering is fun because there is a practical side to it if you like building projects and that sort of thing. The sciences do lab work, so you get about one day a week in the lab, which I quite enjoyed. The liquid nitrogen especially! But go for a core subject, whatever you do and then you can get a wide range of jobs. It's all down to what you like doing, and whatever that is you will do much better at it than something you find boring. The brainwashed in my university were nearly all arts degree students, and never do a politics degree unless you fancy joining the Communist Party.
I disagree with you. This whole brainwashing mind-set that you hold seems to be a sweeping generalization. The only way a person gets brainwashed is if they allow themselves to get sucked in and believe a bunch of lies. I studied both, Psychology and Philosophy at A level, believe it or not but they most definitely have many advantages going towards them compared to others.
geewhizz
23-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Hi guys. Not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post this but here goes..
I have been following the work of David Icke and others like him for a about 3 years now. I am 24 years old and have been in and out of part-time retail jobs since i left school.
I am more than capable of doing very well at University and so i think with things the way they are, and knowing i hate retail, it would be good to get myself to University. Now i understand that any state education is probably going to be biased, misguided or maybe even just plain bollocks! But i feel i am vigilant enough now to be able to work around that in one way or another.
Anyway i am so confused as to which kind of subject to study, i am into a range of things generally from the sciences and social studies to the humanities of english, history and philosophy.
I am not a materialistic person, i just want a career where i can feel i am doing something of real worth toward helping this planet, and its inhabitants ,to exist with love, truth and freedom.
Any thoughts or suggestions? maybe some examples of what you guys do?
I need something mentally stimulating, working within nature would be nice too. I am interesting in philosophy but is that something i can study at home witout the need for a degree in it? some degree of creativity would be nicetoo but again is that something i can do alone?
thanks
Do a degree in Civil Engineering. We will need more civil engineers to help rebuild the 'new' world when the destruction has finished.
les_paul_robot
23-04-2009, 02:53 PM
Do a degree in Civil Engineering. We will need more civil engineers to help rebuild the 'new' world when the destruction has finished.
I suggested that but he had less interest than a current account :D
Engineering covers more aspects than you might think, there's law, languages, human factors, business concepts etc.
Ian2day
23-04-2009, 02:56 PM
I would agree about civil engineering if you want to travel the world and get rich rebuilding a place after we have bombed the fuck out of it. If you want to work with people. You could become an Occupational Therapist. Or failing that how about becoming a careers advisor and working for connections with young people. If musically inclined you could go and do a degree at Bath in various different aspects of performing or producing music.
eric_blair
23-04-2009, 02:56 PM
your lucky if you find any job that you enjoy or find fulfilling,
also remember that what your good at might not be what you enjoy doing
depends what you want from your job, happiness? or money?
some jobs are boring and unfulfilling but pay well, other jobs are exciting and interesting but pay peanuts, depends on your situation and priorities
IMO its all about finding a balance that suits you
;)
mindrevolution
23-04-2009, 03:06 PM
I suggested that but he had less interest than a current account :D
Engineering covers more aspects than you might think, there's law, languages, human factors, business concepts etc.
I will look into civil engineering.
private_eye
23-04-2009, 05:15 PM
I have similar aims to you. I'm starting Social and Political Sciences this year.
I think politics and philosophy is a great balance. If you do a social sciences combined honours you'll be able to choose modules which gives a lot of freedom. Philosophy is a fantastic discipline because it teaches you how to formulate arguments, and also how to analyse and tear apart other people's ..
Follow where your passion is. If I had more training, I'd have loved to do Music.
cafetimes1991
23-04-2009, 05:20 PM
Hi guys. Not sure if this is the right part of the forum to post this but here goes..
I have been following the work of David Icke and others like him for a about 3 years now. I am 24 years old and have been in and out of part-time retail jobs since i left school.
I am more than capable of doing very well at University and so i think with things the way they are, and knowing i hate retail, it would be good to get myself to University. Now i understand that any state education is probably going to be biased, misguided or maybe even just plain bollocks! But i feel i am vigilant enough now to be able to work around that in one way or another.
Anyway i am so confused as to which kind of subject to study, i am into a range of things generally from the sciences and social studies to the humanities of english, history and philosophy.
I am not a materialistic person, i just want a career where i can feel i am doing something of real worth toward helping this planet, and its inhabitants ,to exist with love, truth and freedom.
Any thoughts or suggestions? maybe some examples of what you guys do?
I need something mentally stimulating, working within nature would be nice too. I am interesting in philosophy but is that something i can study at home witout the need for a degree in it? some degree of creativity would be nicetoo but again is that something i can do alone?
thanks
You sound like me. I'm seventeen, and wanted to study medicine, but since reading David Icke's books etc I'm obviously a lot less sure. There seem to be few good, ethical, university courses...
baron von lotsov
23-04-2009, 05:36 PM
What i mean by that is that i don't want to do something with my own personal monetary gain in mind. I don't want the aim of my career to be to earn as much as i can so that i can gain material wealth...nicer car, bigger house etc.
Its like i currently work in retail, the aim of that job is to work hard in an absolutely mind numbing setting to try and ensure that a usually already wealthy owner or board of directors can get even more wealthy.
Thanks for all the replies, i am still not sure what to do obviously but this thread has been an eye opener in some respects so far....I am especially surprised by the number of people against doing any of the humanities or social sciences due to brainwashing/ false information. Very interesting.
I just don't want to see anyone get fucked up in a similar way to how I did, and the people around me. OK my course was alright, but the brainwashing was rife. I must have known about 300 students when I was at university and spent hours discussing what they did and what they thought, and so I have an understanding of many different courses. Once they have you on the 'I want to do something meaningful' tip then the next stage will be for them to redefine what is meaningful, and then the net closes in.
baron von lotsov
23-04-2009, 05:42 PM
I disagree with you. This whole brainwashing mind-set that you hold seems to be a sweeping generalization. The only way a person gets brainwashed is if they allow themselves to get sucked in and believe a bunch of lies. I studied both, Psychology and Philosophy at A level, believe it or not but they most definitely have many advantages going towards them compared to others.
My girlfriend at the time did psychology and philosophy as a double degree at Oxford and then a PhD in psychology. After that she went to work in Greoble in France in a military contractor job because she could not get a job in England. After that she freaked out and ended up working in a care home in Bristol. Something she saw while working at the military place freaked her out so badly she packed the whole thing in. However I think she was under the official secrets act and so we still don't know what it was.
size_of_light
23-04-2009, 06:01 PM
However I think she was under the official secrets act and so we still don't know what it was.
C'mon...find out what it was and let us all know.
Use your 'baron powers of persuasion'.
baron von lotsov
23-04-2009, 06:17 PM
C'mon...find out what it was and let us all know.
Use your 'baron powers of persuasion'.
I'm not in touch with her anymore, as this was 20 years ago. Mind you I did track her down on the Internet recently and it seems she never did go back to it, and still works in some pretty bland job. The really odd thing was she was leftwing and used to give me hassle about my family reading the Telegraph, and I used to say, “Can you really imagine Michael Foot running Britain? Her reply was "Well you don't have to be all blue, why not at least try and be a bit more purple?" I stuck to my guns though, like a man.
Ian2day
23-04-2009, 07:48 PM
If I was you, right now I would say fuck it, take out a big fuck off loan and go arround the world seeing what it had to offer me. Education will still be there if you ever come back here. See what the world has to offer as it may be better than staying here.
mindrevolution
23-04-2009, 08:05 PM
If I was you, right now I would say fuck it, take out a big fuck off loan and go arround the world seeing what it had to offer me. Education will still be there if you ever come back here. See what the world has to offer as it may be better than staying here.
Thats one reason i want to go. To get away, be somewhere new. I was hoping to take advantage of any trips or years abroad that some universities do.
I can kind of see some of the world and gain a qualification too, oh and also i can meet loads of new people etc
bobhodge
23-04-2009, 08:30 PM
Thats one reason i want to go. To get away, be somewhere new. I was hoping to take advantage of any trips or years abroad that some universities do.
I can kind of see some of the world and gain a qualification too, oh and also i can meet loads of new people etc
university is a joke. its like a daycare center for premature adults. most people go there just to get drunk and party. learning is secondary to having a good time. maybe thats what you are looking for. you will need to go to a pretty top notch school and get good grades in an in-demand field if you want your degree to have any value. there will be thousands of graduates flooding the market this year in a very bad economy.
mindrevolution
23-04-2009, 08:50 PM
university is a joke. its like a daycare center for premature adults. most people go there just to get drunk and party. learning is secondary to having a good time. maybe thats what you are looking for. you will need to go to a pretty top notch school and get good grades in an in-demand field if you want your degree to have any value. there will be thousands of graduates flooding the market this year in a very bad economy.
I know where you are coming from. But it seems to me the choices are, go to uni and have fun (ie fucking around and partying) and some out of it all with a degree, albeit in an over saturated market. or don't go to uni, have no degree and either have a shitty retail job or nothing at all.
it is a predicament for me though, i have put off going to uni for years, partly because of my attitude towards and it and the stereotypical student that does exist!
i am 24 and am into stuff relating to what David Icke is all about, hopefully that will give me the edge nad allow me to really use my university and my chosen degree.
zanwaan
23-04-2009, 08:54 PM
I would suggest labour. I am a furniture mover and a musician myself and enjoy working because it's demanding on the body and not the mind. Work is Work, and it pays well too. Also if you live neer any populated area, warehouses are a good place for hard labour.
I know it sounds daunting but at the end of the day you know the work is done, your mind will be at ease and the music will flow. Plus you get into great shape:)
bobhodge
23-04-2009, 09:28 PM
I know where you are coming from. But it seems to me the choices are, go to uni and have fun (ie fucking around and partying) and some out of it all with a degree, albeit in an over saturated market. or don't go to uni, have no degree and either have a shitty retail job or nothing at all.
it is a predicament for me though, i have put off going to uni for years, partly because of my attitude towards and it and the stereotypical student that does exist!
i am 24 and am into stuff relating to what David Icke is all about, hopefully that will give me the edge nad allow me to really use my university and my chosen degree.
you are right, if you dont go to uni you will be a grunt working dead ends jobs all your life. if u dont feel like going to university, people will always be dying so maybe a funeral director is good. if you want to get to the upper crust of the middle class then try an accountant, dentist, doctor, solicitor, actuary. these jobs are somewhat recession proof. civil engineer demand varies on the economy. but every job sucks.....as long as you work for someone else you will be on the wrong side of the labor equation. as we are moving towards global fascism, workers will receive less and less and be expected to put in more and more.
shadowangel
23-04-2009, 09:43 PM
Vet?
you'll get good job satisfaction, you'll never be out of a job.... u can travel the world and expand your studies into 'endangered spieces'.... u can help (with knowledge) in regards to animals 'rescued' from labs and stuff...
i think science and mathematics are good ones if you can handle them....
good luck
Lawyer, you could help people in need. Also this includes history and philosophy, this is actually what I am thinking of becoming apart from a ninja :D
~Born Again
No offense to that suggestion - a very good one but the market is incredibly saturated.
What about medical? Doesn't have to be clinical (touching the patients), could be administrative - think baby boomers, the post WWII ones, they're not getting any younger and they're living longer than their predecessors.
How about imaging? There are many different types of imaging. I knew a lady who did mammograms - made a fine living. Of course, if you are a male this could be a detriment as ladies prefer a female imager but there are many different types of imaging.
Of course, I guess it could be said that in certain markets imaging is pretty much locked up but the gerontology end is expanding exponentially with the population's aging. You would be playing a significant role in helping people.
Surgical prep just came to mind as well.
mindrevolution
24-04-2009, 12:13 AM
Thanks for all the replies, wish i had this kind of careers advice when i first left school :)
moondancer
24-04-2009, 01:08 AM
I did a few years in the ambulance service.. that was a good job.. felt you were doing something worthwhile anyway
Good luck in what you decide.. keep us posted
(still think you should go off n back pack round the world though ;))
:) x
mindrevolution
24-04-2009, 06:32 PM
Would anyone else like to give their thoughts?
lostwonderer
24-04-2009, 06:47 PM
Have you thought about travelling around for a while? It may be beneficial in enabling you to figure out exactly what type of career you want.
mindrevolution
26-04-2009, 11:14 PM
I don't have the money to do that, nor do i feel i have the time. I am 24 and would like to get some kind of career on the way. I have very little in the way of savings.
les_paul_robot
26-04-2009, 11:44 PM
you are right, if you dont go to uni you will be a grunt working dead ends jobs all your life.
I disagree!!! Most self-made millionaires did not go to university. If you have the drive to do anything well you can excel and be your own boss.
I remember a teacher telling us about one of the famous scientists, can't remember who exactly, maybe Robert Hook or someone like that, who went to Cambridge. When it came round to exam time he told his tutors that he didn't want to do them because for him uni was just for learning about subjects and the piece of paper at the end was meaningless. I tried to view studying my degree in this way.
mindrevolution
26-05-2009, 02:17 PM
hi, any fresh ideas?
cafetimes1991
26-05-2009, 02:57 PM
I seriously plan on doing what this guy does when I'm older. Check it out!
http://www.hobotraveler.com/