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zaira
16-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Hi! My name is Zaira, I’m new and I have many questions.
I am familiar with the beliefs of David Icke. I see a lot of truth in what he says but I am one of those people who wonder if he might have gone about it differently.
If David is so right then why is he hurting so much?
Why does he encounter so many obstacles?
How many here believe that we create our own reality from the thoughts we entertain?
Does the quality of our life really depend on the quality of our thoughts?
What works better talking about changing things or taking action to change things?
Is it true that change begins with ourselves?
Forgive me but I am involved in many forums, and one thing never changes - the first post is always the most difficult.
I look forward to meeting and getting to know all of you.
lottie
16-07-2007, 12:44 PM
Morning Zaira- welcome to the forum- im sure you'll enjoy it here!
I dont know the answers to your questions Zaira, but i hope you find them soon! :)
lookfar
16-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Hi Zaira & welcome to the forum :)
I'm afraid that I don't have the answers to your questions either. But I have pondered them also myself. The only conclusion that I came up with is that we're all on our individual life-paths and have to experience different things for different reasons & sometimes without even realising what they are.
Best of luck with your search for the answers & I hope you enjoy it here.
rossus
16-07-2007, 01:25 PM
hello zaira
welcome.
i'll answer some questions for you.If David is so right then why is he hurting so much?
david is not "so right".
the people on this forum do not believe exactly what he believes.
david is a smart man.
he is right about a lot of things, but this does not mean he is right about most things.
be careful what you believe zaira,
because you might fall from one false belief into another,
thinking that this new false belief is the truth.
Why does he encounter so many obstacles?
i'm not sure which obstacles you mean... but david is not a god or something.
it's not like he can transform the obstacles in life in miracles of good.
(i think) every human being on this planet has obstacles.
first there is the physical problem: we have a body that is susceptible to death and disease, and limited by the laws of nature.
then there is the society problem: money, laws, power.
obstacles are a part of life?
How many here believe that we create our own reality from the thoughts we entertain?
if you believe that you are ugly, you will see yourself as ugly in the mirror and you will feel ugly, and perhaps think others are beautiful.
if you believe that you are beautiful, you will see yourself as beautiful in the mirror and feel beautiful, and perhaps think others are ugly.
i think beautiful and ugly are creations of the mind, but in reality beautiful and ugly do not exist.
if you believe that can fly and you jump of a cliff, you will fall to the ground and hit your head hard.
so yes, thoughts do create reality but don't take it too far.
Does the quality of our life really depend on the quality of our thoughts?
of course it does.
if you run around all day worrying about useless things, then you ruin that day by doing that.
What works better talking about changing things or taking action to change things?
first you think about changing things,
then you talk about changing things (if that is what you wish)
then you change things.
thinking about changing, does not change things.
but before you change things it's important that you first think about it so you do not do anything stupid :D
Is it true that change begins with ourselves?
i don't know if that is where it begins,
but just like there a lot of things that need to be "corrected" in the outside world...
a lot of things "inside" also need to be corrected.
many of the mistakes we see in the world, we also make.
greetings
lightbeing
16-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Hi there Zaira,
Good to have another 'unplugged'.
In the end I feel we will all come up with the same answers.........
Anders Lindman
16-07-2007, 01:30 PM
If David is so right then why is he hurting so much?
Hi Zaira,
It is one thing to understand something on an intellectual level. It's another, altogether different thing to understand it emotionally and physically. A deep, deep, deep penetration is needed to dissolve emotional and physical knots. And that takes time. David needs to go deeper into the emotional and physical realm. A similar thing with Ken Wilber, who has an uber-superior intellectual knowledge but recently experienced a heart problem. Intellectual understanding is crucial, but it's only the tip of the iceberg.
garth
16-07-2007, 02:09 PM
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Gidday Zaira, most of the information you seek is contained in this forum. I'd check out the "nature of reality" sub forum for info on LOA etc:D
chattanova
16-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Welcome onboard Zaira, nice to have you here:)
slave
16-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Hi,You are doing important questions. .There are too many people that persist to give their power to others.
Do you think you are not able to find answers alone?
quelyn
16-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Hi,You are doing important questions. .There are too many people that persist to give their power to others.
Do you think you are not able to find answers alone?
I would like to second that thought. Don't ever give your power AWAY. Sometimes when searching for the ultimate turth we go from one teacher to another which is fine, However, in the end of our path, our answers are OURS alone within us.
Peace fellow traveler
tejas
16-07-2007, 09:17 PM
Hey Zaira -
Welcome to the forumn!
The questions you ask are difficult, and I dont think anyone can give definate answers.
I think the main point is to try to be as objective as possible and follow your gut, but also not to trust something too much as you can be misled!
That includes david ickes work! It may all be true, it may not be true, or it may be a mixture of both!
We are all looking for answers, and hopefully well find them one day!
i am all i am
16-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Hi! My name is Zaira, I’m new and I have many questions.
G'day Zaira, welcome to the forum.
I am familiar with the beliefs of David Icke. I see a lot of truth in what he says but I am one of those people who wonder if he might have gone about it differently.
David could have gone about it differently, but the issue is really about yourself, how would you go about it now knowing what you know ???
If David is so right then why is he hurting so much?
Ringht and wrong are paired opposites that will entrap you. David's journey is a progress of perception that is part of his own journey in healing himself, as each of us face our own journey in healing ourselves.
Why does he encounter so many obstacles?
Because many people are afraid to allow another to put forth their perspective and they will attack that other to maintain their own perspective.
How many here believe that we create our own reality from the thoughts we entertain?
I believe that thought, word and action are the tools that we use to create our reality.
Does the quality of our life really depend on the quality of our thoughts?
Our life is not dependant upon our thoughts. Our thoughts are merely one aspect that we have that supplies the 'ingredients' that make up our life as we express and experience it.
What works better talking about changing things or taking action to change things?
Within infinity, all things are equal. It is not that one thing is 'better' than another, they are merely different ways of perceiving. Each moment is merely a choice of how you would choose to express yourself and therefore experience yourself.
Is it true that change begins with ourselves?
Yes.
Forgive me but I am involved in many forums, and one thing never changes - the first post is always the most difficult.
I look forward to meeting and getting to know all of you.
Thank you for introducing yourself and I will see you around the forum.
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lemin000
16-07-2007, 11:36 PM
Hi! My name is Zaira, I’m new and I have many questions.
I am familiar with the beliefs of David Icke. I see a lot of truth in what he says but I am one of those people who wonder if he might have gone about it differently.
If David is so right then why is he hurting so much?
Why does he encounter so many obstacles?
How many here believe that we create our own reality from the thoughts we entertain?
Does the quality of our life really depend on the quality of our thoughts?
What works better talking about changing things or taking action to change things?
Is it true that change begins with ourselves?
Forgive me but I am involved in many forums, and one thing never changes - the first post is always the most difficult.
I look forward to meeting and getting to know all of you.
Hi,
Welcome to the forum, the way I see it is that a part of what makes this reality work is the balance in the amount of forces that can be manipulated and those that cannot. You cannot make you dead loved ones come back from the grave and into your life through positive thoughts or wishful thinking, (note: if they actually do come back to life in flesh and bone, run! run like crazy and buy a shotgun!) but you can work on creating a positive first impression on someone whom you feel attracted to, thus increasing the chances of having a reality in which you end up having a boyfriend or a girlfriend.
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People, live with your own discoveries, and try not to hold firm beliefs, especially if you are from a religious background because the only knowledge that can make you grow comes from knowing that you don't know.
slave
16-07-2007, 11:43 PM
I would like to second that thought. Don't ever give your power AWAY. Sometimes when searching for the ultimate turth we go from one teacher to another which is fine, However, in the end of our path, our answers are OURS alone within us.
Peace fellow traveler
I think we have a power. This power is the ability to find ourselves the answers regard our life. If we don't use this quality we lose this quality and we become puppet that wait from external the solution.
I say that you give your power away because only you can knows answers regarding your life. Is arrogant a person that claim to know an answer regarding another person, because my life is not your life. I think at the end of our path if you don't find answers alone you have in your life answers regarding you that are not your answers. The power
of knowledge is a inner power. I can't give this power to another "teacher".
Now I'm adult, When I was a child I needed a theacher but in future we must
do alone or we are eternal childs. Don't you feel a weight over coscience to gives answers to other persons claim to be more evolved.
If someone follow the answers of others, this person will live his life as other persons want, not as you want. I think is terrible, because they have influence ourelves in this way only for make money. (personal opinion).
Clearly, if someone wants to be a puppet of others, is not my problem, I only say: goodluck
Sorry, I'm not used to write in english.
tickles
17-07-2007, 12:05 AM
Welcome to the forums Zaira.
Most of us here are on a similar path of discovery. Looking for answers to the questions we ask.
As David Icke often says, take what you need, leave the rest. That to me means that if he says something that i can understand/ relate to then i take it in. If it makes no sense to me then i leave it be. Its just information.
And thats how i treat the info that is supplied on this forum. If i don't agree, i leave it alone.
Cheers,
Tickles
zaira
17-07-2007, 08:13 AM
Thank you all so very much for such a lovely welcome.
I plan to answer each of you as soon as I get enough time.
auron
17-07-2007, 09:07 AM
Welcome to the forum Zaira! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_15.gif
Enjoy your stay! You will learn many things here!
Infinite Love.
Auron :)
zaira
17-07-2007, 02:31 PM
Tickles,
I too accept only that which rings true to the deepest part of my soul and simply disregard the rest. And because of this I have created a personal philosophy for my life, and it works very well - for me. You're correct when you say it is just information, other people's thoughts, opinions and views of the world and the people in it. We cannot take everything on board therefore we must decide and choose what to believe. And in order to do so we must learn to trust our instincts and our intuition. At times the journey has been long and hard but I am getting there. I look forward to reading more of your posts.
zaira
17-07-2007, 02:40 PM
slave,
I was an abused child, back then I had no power. As a young adult I struggled to do what others expected of me until I almost had a breakdown - perhaps a break through. I worked hard to discovered my power and I work at keeping it and making it and myself stronger than ever. Thank you for reminded me of just how far I have come. I look forward to reading more of your posts.
zaira
17-07-2007, 03:01 PM
lemin000,
It's not so much about getting what we want. I think it is more about getting what we expect. So often after the event we say I knew that would happen. Maybe the time has come for us to expect the very best of everything this world has to offer and know that we deserve it. Yes, it also seems to depend on what we believe we deserve. In that context I believe the quality of our life will depend on the quality of our thoughts.
And to everyone else,
I have chosen to answer some posts individually as a way of giving you, my forum friends, a little insight into where I'm coming from. I am rather overwhelmed by your response to my introduction thread and would once again like to thank you all for such a warm welcome. I look forward to reading more of your posts.