What if nothing happens in 2012?

[flossy]

...how silly would you feel?
Just wondering what if......

[ownedtbh]

i dont believe in the 2012 stuff anyway. but i do think the world is going to be a very different place by then.

[bornagain]

hahahahaha will most likely get wasted as usual. :D



~Born Again

[rossus]

not any more silly than i do now,
because i don't really believe in 2012.

[beldazar]

To be honest, I was hoping that something would happen but Ive had my doubts for quite a while now. It seems to have been created by the Mayans and they were apparently ruled by the reps.
Because the reps dont live in 'time' as we do, it could have been a set-up to bring forth a massive disappointment.
This could have a detrimental effect on the vibrations of the planet and brig forth something nasty :(

[void]

What if nothing happens in 2012?

If will certainly be very dissapointing for those folks who are either expecting to be magically transported into some new age of bliss and light, or expected some almighty crash of the system and chaos to occur so they can embark on a kind of mad max life style. Which is why it's best to not focus on this date, and just be now making the best of our lives right in this very moment.

[watson_k]

If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Some people will have a wounded ego. Some will come up with another date. Some will think evil aliens did 'something' to stop it.

It depends on what you expect to happen in 2012.

[rossus]

my logic mind asks itself,

if the universe is conscious of itself,
and if the future upgrade in human consciousness could be predicted a long time ago...

then why does the universe wait so long?
because the upgrade is so extremely necessary.

so many living beings, humans and animals are suffering,
because of the way the illuminati rulers play the masses...

why didn't it end all this suffering a long time ago?



there's so much emotional and physical torture going on on this planet,
that i find it hard to believe there is a conscious god or a conscious universe.

earth as it is right now looks too bad to be completely ruled by a good god,
and too good to be complete ruled by a devil.



if there is an energetic phenemon coupled with the time ~2012,
then i guess this energy would probably be neutral in itself, and can be used for good or for bad.





that's just my logic mind thinking though,
the logic mind is a very useful tool which i try to use as skillfully as possible,
but i do understand i'm limited in my understanding...

and for all i know: i know nothing at all.

[steevo]

Was it David Icke who recently said that 2012 could be being used as a means of making the people look to the future (ie 2012) as a sort of salvation date, when really the people should be acting NOW. Ie he was saying that 2012 was being used to convince people NOT to act.

[les_paul_robot]

Or, if nothing happens Dec 2012, then that might mean you've been left behind

[darketernal]

As I currently believe 2012 is a psyop I am not expecting any type of real miracles or massive changes, unless they are initiated by the PTB... so I won't feel foolish at all in this scenario. ;)

[fromthatshow]

I'll kill myself

[smariot]

Even if nothing happens, its a once in lifetime event. Hell, it's a once in 50 lifetimes event. Seems like a good enough reason to have a party to me, and the "This could be our last day on Earth." line can only tip the probability of getting laid in your favor!

[void]

and the "This could be our last day on Earth." line can
only tip the probability of getting laid in your favor!

Great poster wording comes to my mind for the day - "BIG BANG!!"

[mauviene]

Isn't 2012 just the end of the Mayan calendar.. LOL!?

That's actually what a Mayan guy told me when I was in Mexico, they all think everyone else is stupid for believing in the apocalyptic hoax.

[kingmonkey]

2012's just another bollocks prediction that'll come and go like all the others. Probably ;)

[thoughtonfire]

You all are just like I was.

And then I researched where the 2012 started.

Jose Arguelles.

José Argüelles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

José Arguelles-2012 Prophecy-Part 1 - YouTube

[thoughtonfire]

And for those who don't do the research and/or don't watch the video(s) then:

Jose Arguelles, the guy that started it all, doesn't preach that "something will happen on December 21, 2012". What he does say is that basically: Energies of Consciousness are shifting. What's interesting is that there is an Native American Prophecy about the "Time of No-Time" which is from 2003-2012 - which is where their very own constellation Zodiac Member which is I believe the "Rattlesnake" moves and so they have the prophecy that the Psyche is Shifting, (roughly that's what they say). I can bring up that if anybody cares.

The Hype that something is going to happen on that day is major bullshit. And whether Jose is right about Shifting Consciousness around this time (within years) is also major speculation and up to the individual to decide what's what. Of course things are shifting look at our day to day lives. Whether that has to do with a prophecy or not?

[belial]

In 2014... an alien invasion will take over the monopoly that is Tesco's/Wall*Mart

In 2016... an American president will declare war on Mars Bars

In 2018... man will finally walk on the Moon despite the NASA lies from the years of Neil Armstrong

Point is... if something happens in 2012 and we all get nuked/hit by a meteor/hit by a rather LARGE planet/the NWO nuke us... then we are all f'ed anyway, aren't we?

- Enjoy life to the full
- Ignore numpties on this forum :p (and there are many)
- Keep the conversation going on this forum (and many others like this)... while we can

[thoughtonfire]

Cherokee Prophecies

Cherokee Star Constellation - Prophecy of the Rattlesnake

The Stars above and its configurations hold TIME UNTIME within its grasp upon all life. As all cultures sustain a Zodiac system written upon Time Untime so also the Chickamaugan Cherokee of the Americas hold also an Ancient Zodiac of the heavens.

Within the Zodiac of the Heavens of the Chickamauga Cherokee are etched Ancient designs written upon and within the lines of seeing. The Cherokee Zodiac is alive and moves and spins upon the rings of TIME UNTIME. As the main outline remains its hold and is stationed in the sky of stars its movement within that frozen outline does indeed change with the movements of the other elements. Elements within the rotations planets, stars, and bodies of the heavens. As other cultures station their Zodiac as a permanent fixture the Cherokee Zodiac morphs or changes and becomes as if ALIVE. Always Alive, breaths, lives, and takes upon each constellation its own deeming of things, Time, Untime, and among those things, PROPHECY.

The Constellations of the Chickamaugan Cherokee are 13 fold which contain the characterizations of mainly animals. Among the many design configurations seen written upon the stars are the designs of animals, objects, and many other elements of TIME UNTIME. The figures of the sky are totally different from other cultures of the Zodiac except for a rare few which seem to be similar. The only one which seems to relative to similarity is found within the Cherokee Constellation Scorpion and Snake and this in relation to others as Scorpio and Serpent.

This is the story of only one of those constellations. This is of the Cherokee Constellation Rattlesnake. And within this one Constellation is found a PROPHECY. Within the Rattlesnake of the Heavens is found TIME UNTIME foretold since the dawn of TIME.

In the sky is found the figure of a Snake. And upon this snake it is the outline of a Rattlesnake. Sometimes the Serpent and the Rattlesnake take on its bearing of one or the other but the Snake of the Rattlesnake is ITS design.

The Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation is not like other cultures of the world. The Cherokee Rattlesnake in the Heavens has a head and winds itself back and forth with its body as in sidewinding itself to its tail. The boundary of the Rattlesnake is unlike the boundaries of other Zodiac cultures. In the Heavens the Pleiades Star System is found as the tip of the Rattlesnake tail.

The Rattlesnake of the Cherokee is very sacred and its sacredness is written even in the Heavens. Upon the mouth of the Rattlesnake is found 52 scales. These scales in number of 52 is written upon the Calendar of the Cherokee and upon the wheels and rings of TIME UNTIME. The Calendar of the Cherokee spins upon wheels and rings as a sophisticated dating system. A dating system that not only tells TIME of events, people, places, and things but also a very holy and sacred element within the Cherokee culture itself of ALL THINGS.

The Rattlesnake can sometimes be imaged as a serpent. To be a Serpent or to be the Rattlesnake depends on the knowing of the TIMES and TIMES of TIME UNTIME. To know the culture of the Cherokee and its Ancient design upon LIFE. One MUST know the things of TIME UNTIME in order to place the constellation as a Rattlesnake or a Serpent. But this is another story.

The stationary outline is always of the Rattlesnake. However upon the wheels of the Cherokee calendar is also found when where how what who in its changing and transformation. The transformation is not the changing of the shape of the Rattlesnake but the addition or subtraction of elements upon the snake itself. These things also tell the tales of the universe and all its bearing of what was, what is, and to be.

On the Cherokee Calendar a great thing is foretold of things about to take shape within all things upon the earth, the heavens, and the universe. And the Rattlesnake Constellation is one of those which speaks as a voice of TIME UNTIME of things to be.

Upon the Cherokee Calendar Rings and written in the Star Constellation Rattlesnake is a prophecy of TIME UNTIME.

And so it is thus foretold ....

When the Earth sees the fingers of Spearfinger strike Jupiter, when the ages of the Rings and wheels tell it is the ending of the ages of cycles of 5, this will be the sign for the whole earth, for all the earth will see this thing, to wake up from sleep. These fingers that stuck Jupiter was the comet fragments that hit Jupiter in the 1990s and the whole earth took of is majesty. This was the sign foretold on the Calendar for the Cherokee people to WAKE UP to come out of sleep.

The Cherokee Calendar also speaks its voice telling that at this time of the fingers striking Jupiter that Orion Star System will awaken. And the Pleiades and Orion will war once again as in old. Jupiter and Venus will awaken to its destiny of TIME UNTIME of cycles. Orion will WAR with Pleadies, Jupiter will WAR with Venus. The time of the Cherokee UKU's will be at hand.

In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains.

In the year 2004 and 2012 the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation will take on a different configuration. The Snake itself will remain, however, upon the Rattlesnake shall be added upon its head feathers, its eyes will open and glow, wings spring forth as a winged Rattlesnake, it shall have hands and arms and in its hands shall be found a bowl. The bowl will hold blood. Upon its tail of 7 rattles shall be the glowing and movement of Pleiades.

The Rattlesnake shall become a FEATHERED RATTLESNAKE or FEATHERED SERPENT of TIME UNTIME.

And upon the Rattlesnake is also the Milky Way. A crossing of the Milky Way shall be seen at these times.

For the center of the Universe is what many know as the Constellation Sagittarius by modern man. But upon this constellation of is also found the Pleiades Star system which is what is different in the boundary of others and the Cherokee Zodiac.

The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree ... STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.

And the Cherokee Calendar shall end in the year 2012. But upon the times just prior shall be the Feathered Serpent and its prophecy.

Upon the Heavens design, within the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation, it is written. And upon the Rings of TIME UNTIME of the Cherokee Calendar it also says BEHOLD RATTLESNAKE CONSTELATION. And Remember.

The Rings of the Cherokee Calendar are read by the winding motion of the Rattlesnake. To Add or to subtract TIME UNTIME. To MOVE the Wheels backward or forward, to add a wheel to move the rings, to tell the tale what was, what is, and to be. The Rattlesnake and it design tells the movement of the RINGS OF TIME.

And in the sky heavens the motions of the movement of stars, planets, and life tell the tale of its bearing. For all is as the winding of the Rattlesnake. And in the year 2004 the Morning Star shall be first and in the year 2012 the Evening Star shall be first. And upon those years the crown of the Feathered Serpent shall bear its colors and honor. The hands shall hold the bowl and the tail shall be as the roots of a Tree, The Pleaides Tree of the beginning.

And in the Year 2004 and 2012 shall be the TIME UNTIME of the Feathered Serpent of the Sky Heavens. And the Rings shall turn upon those years of prophecy foretold on the Rings of TIME UNTIME. And Ywahoo Falls Kentucky shall sing of Venus and the Feathered Rattlesnake.

For this is not all the prophecy not all the things thereof. For if it was meant for one to know and I give only part, then you have received a great gift. For if I tell all and it was not meant for one to know then I have waisted my breath. For this is a sacred thing, the Venus Alignment and the Feathered Serpent of the Heavens.

And in the Year 2012 the Cherokee Calendar Ends. And all is reborn. For the Feathered Rattlsnake comes and shall be seen in the heavens in the year 2004 to 2012.

In the south of the americas ... it is related as the coming of Quetzalcoatl. The Ancient Cherokee relate it as the coming of the Pale One once again.

The Rattlesnake Constelation shall appear with the Venus Alignment. The Stars of the Heavens of the Cherokee Zodiac, the Rings of the Calendar, and The Venus Alignment tell the story of a Chickamaugan Prophecy. For they all are aligned in the year 2004 to 2012.

[vladmir]

Something is always happening. :cool:

[hellosatellites]

Or, if nothing happens Dec 2012, then that might mean you've been left behind

lol

[danster82]

2012 is the end of a cycle and nothing will happen I am not expecting anything to happen but that doesnt mean the mayan calendar is not correct.

You better get ready for nothing to happen because truly nothing will happen.

Its just a cycle! Nothing special happens at 12oclock every night does it?

[thoughtonfire]

I remember when I first stayed up after Midnight! Something happened in my Psyche that was pretty amazing, I saw what happens in the time when nothing happens!

What does happen at night? Chemicals in the brain are different at night due to 'Internal Clockwork'. Something about dopamine or something...

And during the day there is serotonin.

It's fact, cycles have effect on the psyche.

[penguin]

If nothing happens in 2012

People will fantasize about another date.

http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

[kingmonkey]

The only thing that'll happen in 2012 is all these new age hacks will have to find something else to write about!

[sorath]

2012 has somehow been linked with the book of revelations. Tribulation and rapture are stories to keep people in line. Its all bullshit! Remember the whole Y2K fear mongering?

I believe in 2012 but only as a date. People are so sick of the state of the world that they are looking for a miracle cure. In this respect all the ascension talk is no different to monotheistic religious fanatics talk of rapture.

There is no future, there is no past there is only NOW!!!

[itsallinus]

I'm not convinced anything will or will not happen. I am keeping an open mind.

So what about the planets/stars coming into alignment on this date? Were 'in' the 'birthing canal' of the milky way now and have been for the past 15 years. Everything has been speeding up and what the Mayan's said was that the speed of major events occuring would speed up until they are happening across the globe almost on top of each other. This does appear to be true, what that means is ...?

The awakening is quickening as is the NWO agenda and it does all seem to 'fit in' to the possibility of an accumulative event climaxing on 21-12-2012.

If you look at history, at the way cilivlisations evolved, how people and other life on this planet had taken evolutionary 'leaps' that appear to match the mayan calender and add to this the wars and major events that have occurred which also fit into the mayan calender, you (well I anyway) have to accept the possibility that this 'once in a 125 Billion year event' could have a major impact on our conciousness/awareness if nothing else. It would seem this is already evident.

I am not taking it in as fact but a theory, a possibility and all I know is that something is happening, I am seeing theses orbs, seeing energy fields and experiencing things I never did before as are many others. Whatever is happening now and whatever the end result will be is simply something we're gonna have to let unfold, no more point in thinking about the future as it doesn't exist!

That's my 2 pennies worth anyway, keeping an open mind..:D

[manxboz]

I expect a leap in mankinds evolution that will be capped by the Top guys in play and a nwo will come about. Iran wants to improve relations with the yanks come on its all to see.