I've finally understood DI on this.

[herebynightfall]

I am very empathetic when it comes to just about everything and everyone that shows emotion.

I can connect with almost everyone, and see their point of view without really thinking about it. I just can feel their energy resonating through me, whether they be close by or miles away.

This I think is why I have trouble making a lot of friends. I tend to keep around me, people that are a bit more in touch with themselves than most people. Very much like the people on this thread. And it allows us as a group, to just know each other (and it's more predominate as the days go on) and takes away the need for as much verbal and physical communication (though we love to opinionate our voices and punch and kiss and have fun, because girls are included in our group as well)

And the out-of-touch people I come into contact with, the ones with harsh ideas, and that are oblivious to, and part of, the actions that are dulling our society. Those people I don't bother with usually, even though there is hope in them all. But I don't have that conscious connection with them because their "bubble" is blocking their true internal, untapped, unaltered, infinite knowing from reaching my semi-outpouring connected stream of consciousness.

The way I see it, I'm the Middle, they are the Left.
http://www.neilhague.com/artwork/3types.jpg
It's easier for a Middle to Middle connection than a Middle to Left.

Anyway my point is, its energy, and consciousness, connecting on a not-so-physical level, to the point of almost complete understanding within certain thoughts, thus the empathy I feel with everyone.

I just wanted to say this all, so people can understand where I am coming from with my thoughts that were expressed in another thread of mine.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6058

Because on a massive scale I can feel the distress coming from that part of the world when I just hear the name of a country from there.

This empathetic connection, more than anything else, has been a notion to my brain (that is stuffed full of useless crap that I can't seem to dump out of my head and think clearly 100% of the time) a notion to my brain that our physical bodies and this physical world are truly an illusion, floating along in the vastness that is infinity.

[herebynightfall]

just trying to get this to catch on really.
ha maybe others have this same experience.

[quelyn]

just trying to get this to catch on really.
ha maybe others have this same experience.
herebynightfall,

YES, definately have always felt this connection. The awareness of the meaning is more recent in bubbling to the surface.
I am a bit ashamed to say it is VERY difficult to spend time with or listen to the chatter or drama of those not connected as yet. Almost painful.........actually! Yes, more awakened-if I may use that term-beings are coming my way. Patience
Good thread and way to go!

[herebynightfall]

gracias.

we all knew how hard it was to transition from the left side to the middle.
(see above picture)
and we must give everybody the chance to make this change for themselves.
for the truth is love, and love has a way of pulling through in the end.

i'm on my way from middle to the right.
hardest transition of all.
then nirvana.

[lifeofbrian]

If you are wide open emotionally you are a sitting duck. "Empaths" often make the mistake of believing everyone is like them. Not so. You experience your own feelings - not their essence.

Grow smart. Grow an armour and do not ass-u-me other people are you.

Sorry but you seem to be stuck in a pink make-believe bubble.

[holly_ocean]

nice one
and i'm with you
sometimes i find normal social interaction excrutiating even though i love everyone really
sometimes it's easier on the internet or email even - not exactly sure why but have a few ideas

[barbitone]

I too have strong empathy towards life. When you open yourself up, you merge with your experience more and more.... But you can't allow sorrow to pull you down. If you go around bearing the weight of the worlds problems it will finish you. Those people have chosen their experience one way or another. They are creators, creating their experience. Pull your awareness up out of the emotional level and see it from non-dualistic perspective. It's an illusion in truth. This is what is called "true-forgiveness". It heals because it re-wires your perception orientated towards evolution of self.

Everyone will wake up, because that is the nature if things; God sleeping. No matter how bad the dream you will still wake up.

I find it hard to speak to people too. Same reasons. I like to sit down and have a 2 hour conversation about realty and the nature of creation etc whilst most people you meet just want to watch movies and talk about TV and sports etc...
Small talk.
It's pretty hard to be unplugged from the matrix and then just walk around inside the matrix with the awareness of the truth and just chit chat about what so and so said and what's coming up on television blah blah blah.....

[lumukanda]

i had a situation the other night where we went out and there was a girl sitting on the steps, waiting for her sister. when we got back, about 4 hours later, she was still sitting there, so we invited her in to wait inside, only to realise we had nothing to say to this person, we eventually started on the topic of religion, and had a pretty interesting chat, even though she was quite religious, and not very receptive to what we had to say.
a couple of nights later, she invited us out for a drink, to say thank you, and this is where it really hit home, i can't just chit chat, if i need to speak, it's got to be about something worthwhile, or i tend not to speak at all, so needless to say we spent an hour trying to communicate, but it was like we were talking past each other the whole time, eventually my girlfriend and i left, it was painful trying to communicate, like swimming with your clothes on, not impossible, but bloody hard.

[barbitone]

i had a situation the other night where we went out and there was a girl sitting on the steps, waiting for her sister. when we got back, about 4 hours later, she was still sitting there, so we invited her in to wait inside, only to realise we had nothing to say to this person, we eventually started on the topic of religion, and had a pretty interesting chat, even though she was quite religious, and not very receptive to what we had to say.
a couple of nights later, she invited us out for a drink, to say thank you, and this is where it really hit home, i can't just chit chat, if i need to speak, it's got to be about something worthwhile, or i tend not to speak at all, so needless to say we spent an hour trying to communicate, but it was like we were talking past each other the whole time, eventually my girlfriend and i left, it was painful trying to communicate, like swimming with your clothes on, not impossible, but bloody hard.

lol :D I know where your coming from.....

There are all kinds of un-spoken rules to conversations and social functions. And then there's religion also. And your expected to dodge and weave all of these in order to qualify to the standards of somebody else's expectations.

Nowadays, people speak so much small talk that the value, if you like, of language has gone down. It doesn't mean much. Most of it is just dancing around other peoples egos or trying to fill the silence with trivia to avoid the "discomfort" of it.

[lightbeing]

I certainly know where you are all coming from, I feel too much at times and find this difficult to handle. Also, the amount of irrelevant talk I have to put up with is tough as well...........
No turning back when you are unplugged from the matrix...........

[holly_ocean]

feels like wasting time to have conversations which are completely at odds with what everyone's truly feeling which seems to be what normal social stuff is about
but if the lid got taken off that perhaps it would be too much to deal with at once....
especially when we're just going about our daily business...
and anyway that's what this huge farce that people like David Icke, us here and others are beginning to expose
we live in a system that's not about who we really are
so how can we have a sane conversation within it's parameters - or within the parameters of the left brain for that matter?
do i make sense?

perhaps it just feels easier via the internet becasue we can kind of take it or leave it and add a comment when it feels right
appreciating this forum so much right now :)

[herebynightfall]

staying alive from weeks ago. read if ya havent.

[montag]

like swimming with your clothes on, not impossible, but bloody hard.
Nice analogy Luk, you certainly have a way with words..

[cleft_asunder]

I understand your original point about the middle connecting with the middle, but I think you misunderstand the illustrations true meaning. In fact, what we are dealing with are 3 different types of people.

The one on the left is an Organic Portal. They do not have conciousness behind their bio-computer and were created to look and behave just like us so that they can (unknowingly) manipulate society to serve the Matrix mind's agenda, which is to keep real humans in line. These OP's are simply bio-robots that follow their programming, therefore they are thsemselves neither good nor bad, just empty, but their programming is detrimental to real humans. It is said that OP's compose 50% of humanity, or 3 billion.

The center is a real human which is behaving just like an Organic Portal because it has lost touch with the soul, or the deepest state: the spirit. It believes it is the body/mind/ego bio-computer. The person believes that he is making genuine choices (i.e. I like blonde women) but these choices or preferences are simply the bio-computer's. It is simply conciousness (spirit) caught in a spacesuit and forgetting it is conciousness, not the spacesuit. This is the majority of humanity.

The last are those who have discovered who they are, the conciousness behind the bio-computer which is the source of the illusion. They are truly enlightened. This has nothing to do with astral projection, channeling, psychic powers.

[soglad]

I really hate thinking that maybe I'm better (more conscious or aware) than other people, I thought we ALL have the potential, although it'll be harder for some..

[cruise4]

Its hard work talking to people who know nothing about the real world situation thats for sure. They want to talk total bullshit as if its meaningful and all I want to do is scream at them to wake up you dozy prats. There is a definite dis-connect. Unfortunately most people want you to listen to them, which normally I'd be happy to do. But when it media led crap I can no longer put up with it and starting to get avoided by a few.

[soglad]

Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm absolutely blessed with my friends because they are very open-minded. A very good mate of mine I see nearly every day I can talk about anything, and he'll be glad to discuss it. We talk about the most amazing things. This is like a form of creative art, having a creative discussion with close friends, it makes you feel good! I also have many other open-minded friends I can express myself to, and them to me likewise, but I have come across just.....utter.......idiots. And they're just like computers. They spew out the same questions and sentences you've heard millions of times and have the most predictable reactions.

My mother watches America's Next Top Model, X-Factor and all the other mind/vanity propaganda and she just stares blind. Can't even comprehend the absolute idiocy and falseness of what she's watching.....sad really.

[dark86]

Its hard work talking to people who know nothing about the real world situation thats for sure. They want to talk total bullshit as if its meaningful and all I want to do is scream at them to wake up you dozy prats. There is a definite dis-connect. Unfortunately most people want you to listen to them, which normally I'd be happy to do. But when it media led crap I can no longer put up with it and starting to get avoided by a few.

hit the nail on the head here. I only 'woke up' so to speak a couple of months ago and have digested a silly amount of info since. I know no-one physically i can talk to about this stuff!! its hard, believe me!! but i know i am on the right path.

I am having trouble socialsiing with ppl who are oblivious and media led - help :confused: I love them as they are me and i are them but what can one do:

1) talk shit in response about posh n becks (ok, an over' example)

2) ram it down their throats about reptilians and live aid satanic energy.

3) stay quiet and keep your feelings elsewhere.

i keep going for 3' but it seems pointless.

i know that as i am resonating certain energy, and that the right ppl will come along, but my belief system at present is compatible with only .00001% of people. Not a problem really as i am happy with my own company but when i choose to have company i find myself wishing to slap ppl awake as the converstations are pure crap.

good thread chaps :o

[soglad]

hit the nail on the head here. I only 'woke up' so to speak a couple of months ago and have digested a silly amount of info since. I know no-one physically i can talk to about this stuff!! its hard, believe me!! but i know i am on the right path.

I am having trouble socialsiing with ppl who are oblivious and media led - help :confused: I love them as they are me and i are them but what can one do:

1) talk shit in response about posh n becks (ok, an over' example)

2) ram it down their throats about reptilians and live aid satanic energy.

3) stay quiet and keep your feelings elsewhere.

i keep going for 3' but it seems pointless.

i know that as i am resonating certain energy, and that the right ppl will come along, but my belief system at present is compatible with only .00001% of people. Not a problem really as i am happy with my own company but when i choose to have company i find myself wishing to slap ppl awake as the converstations are pure crap.

good thread chaps :o

Baby steps my friend, baby steps. Introduce small, small things. Show them the path, let them walk it. There are people today who I talk about this stuff that I'd never thought I'd talk to about. Minds are changing.

[cruise4]

"have digested a silly amount of info since":D

Its crazy isn't it? Yes... baby steps. It took me two months to get my neighbour to watch Loose Change 2 and she thought yes... there appears to be something in what you say. Then I gave her 7 sheets of one sided A4 on the money scam. A month later and she's nearly finished it:D Once again though she does think there's something in it. I'll be dead before I get anywhere here:confused:

[barbitone]

hit the nail on the head here. I only 'woke up' so to speak a couple of months ago and have digested a silly amount of info since. I know no-one physically i can talk to about this stuff!! its hard, believe me!! but i know i am on the right path.

I am having trouble socialsiing with ppl who are oblivious and media led - help :confused: I love them as they are me and i are them but what can one do:

1) talk shit in response about posh n becks (ok, an over' example)

2) ram it down their throats about reptilians and live aid satanic energy.

3) stay quiet and keep your feelings elsewhere.

i keep going for 3' but it seems pointless.

i know that as i am resonating certain energy, and that the right ppl will come along, but my belief system at present is compatible with only .00001% of people. Not a problem really as i am happy with my own company but when i choose to have company i find myself wishing to slap ppl awake as the converstations are pure crap.

good thread chaps :o

I wouldn't take 1,2 or 3. I'd use a combination. Don't completely shun their small talk yet don't fuel it too much. If there is any discussion that strays into politics or the nature of reality or something, then jump right in I say. I just blurt it straight ouit at that point and let them think what they want.

But the good thing is that it is definetly getting easier to find people to talk to on these levels. I can be in a group of people that I would never have guessed would know any of this stuff or agree with any of it, but time and time again there is always someone who understands what I'm on about or even just comes straight out with it before I even open my mouth....Things are getting better from my experience.:D

But yeah, definetly don't hold back, but also don't push it further than it feels comfortable. You can usually pick up on whether or not the people in the convo are getting uncomfortable with the level of info or not. As long as you are allowing your self to pick up on it. If so, just back off it a bit.
I find just asking questions that lead towards higher levels of info is better to go for. Just give hints and see if they pick up on it themselves. It's much better than just trying to tell people how things are. No one really likes that....

[okay_spe_wei]

I am very empathetic when it comes to just about everything and everyone that shows emotion.

I can connect with almost everyone, and see their point of view without really thinking about it. I just can feel their energy resonating through me, whether they be close by or miles away.

This I think is why I have trouble making a lot of friends. I tend to keep around me, people that are a bit more in touch with themselves than most people. Very much like the people on this thread. And it allows us as a group, to just know each other (and it's more predominate as the days go on) and takes away the need for as much verbal and physical communication (though we love to opinionate our voices and punch and kiss and have fun, because girls are included in our group as well)

And the out-of-touch people I come into contact with, the ones with harsh ideas, and that are oblivious to, and part of, the actions that are dulling our society. Those people I don't bother with usually, even though there is hope in them all. But I don't have that conscious connection with them because their "bubble" is blocking their true internal, untapped, unaltered, infinite knowing from reaching my semi-outpouring connected stream of consciousness.

The way I see it, I'm the Middle, they are the Left.
http://www.neilhague.com/artwork/3types.jpg
It's easier for a Middle to Middle connection than a Middle to Left.

Anyway my point is, its energy, and consciousness, connecting on a not-so-physical level, to the point of almost complete understanding within certain thoughts, thus the empathy I feel with everyone.

I just wanted to say this all, so people can understand where I am coming from with my thoughts that were expressed in another thread of mine.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6058

Because on a massive scale I can feel the distress coming from that part of the world when I just hear the name of a country from there.

This empathetic connection, more than anything else, has been a notion to my brain (that is stuffed full of useless crap that I can't seem to dump out of my head and think clearly 100% of the time) a notion to my brain that our physical bodies and this physical world are truly an illusion, floating along in the vastness that is infinity.

beautifull

thank you

[herebynightfall]

bump.

[drael]

Your talking about the telepathy of the one mind right?

Yeah as within, so without , all is energy - hard to express but totally pervasive. I too feel sort of middle. But actually ur wrong freind, it gets easier not harder as u go :)

Love ur picture, its beautiful!

If you are wide open emotionally you are a sitting duck. "Empaths" often make the mistake of believing everyone is like them. Not so. You experience your own feelings - not their essence.

Eeeee. Wrong. People who feel know how to let go, or at least can learn. Those in "armour" who pretend they are not hurt by it suffer twice as hard. Look at the world, its all armour, where does that get anyone?

Grow smart. Grow an armour and do not ass-u-me other people are you.

Do not assume you are "you".

Sorry but you seem to be stuck in a pink make-believe bubble.

Indeed u are my freind, time to wake up ;)