UK equivalent to UCC ?

[alternative_answer]

Anyone know what the UK equivalent to the UCC is please?

[adimon]

Do you mean commercial law?

[bones]

the ucc is applicable to the uk!!

universal!!!

[alternative_answer]

Do you mean commercial law?

Uniform Commercial Code? have a watch of these 2 clips and you'l see what I mean!
TheAntiTerrorist on the Freeman\Strawman\Man Pt1.mov - YouTube

TheAntiTerrorist on the Freeman\Strawman\Man Pt2.mov - YouTube

[yozhik]

It was interesting when I was sifting through the UCC (yes - I was both bored and going through a chronic masochistic phase in my life), when it seemed to me that given the definitions within the UCC, we could be classified as animals and that our lives were redefined as agricultural businesses.

Basically, we were/are livestock in an elaborate farm business.
Fascinating.

Of course, the rabbit hole I was delving into became really deep when I also fell upon the info that The City Of London (corporation) controls the animal quarantine division at Heathrow.

Why?
What has the City of London got to do with airport animal quarantine?

I'll leave those pieces of information with you ... :rolleyes:

[adimon]

Yeah, I thought you meant the 'law' :rolleyes:

Laws that don't protect liberty and security for people are fascistic tyranny plain and simple.

There is no way of beating the system from within the UK without exposing all this kind of shit.

There is so much fascism to expose we need all the help we can get.

[fred gomez]

The UCC is like a guideline for doing business in the limited liability commercial arena and other various jurisdictions. But just like a double edge sword the UCC enslaves the masses the same way it can help liberate them.

The UCC was written to simplify and modernize the law governing commercial transactions and should be available relatively world-wide. It states that it must be liberally construed to include all jurisdictions even the one men call the common law. Theres nothing more liberal than trying to apply the code in the UK for some helpful remedy. The beauty of the code can be found in the first and third articles. Hope that helps. Peace

Fred

[telboy]

The UCC in my research has no bearing, influence , power, standing or otherwise in the UK. It is not available for remedy and not available for any Commercial Redemption. UCC is a Uniform Code for business between States in the USA ONLY. Period. It is pointless imo to even consider UCC in any way whatsoever. However, having said that, maybe there is a UK version. I don't know. There doesn't seem to be.

[yozhik]

The UCC in my research has no bearing, influence , power, standing or otherwise in the UK. It is not available for remedy and not available for any Commercial Redemption. UCC is a Uniform Code for business between States in the USA ONLY. Period. It is pointless imo to even consider UCC in any way whatsoever. However, having said that, maybe there is a UK version. I don't know. There doesn't seem to be.

Given that there are MANY UK companies, registered with the SEC; would they not come under the UCC by being registered in the US of A and therefore within its jurisdiction and bound to its legislation?

[pdcdp]

are you looking for UCP 600?

"On 1 July the existing Uniform Customs Practice of Documentary Credits, or UCP 500, were replaced with the new UCP 600. The revision will affect all those trading internationally using letters of credit to arrange payment; this includes exporters, importers, bankers, lawyers and carriers.

The objective of the ICC in creating uniform rules for documentary credits, first devised in 1933, was to facilitate the flow of international trade and alleviate problems encountered when individual countries try and promote their own national rules on letter of credit practice."

[girlgye]

It was interesting when I was sifting through the UCC (yes - I was both bored and going through a chronic masochistic phase in my life), when it seemed to me that given the definitions within the UCC, we could be classified as animals and that our lives were redefined as agricultural businesses.

Basically, we were/are livestock in an elaborate farm business.
Fascinating.

Of course, the rabbit hole I was delving into became really deep when I also fell upon the info that The City Of London (corporation) controls the animal quarantine division at Heathrow.

Why?
What has the City of London got to do with airport animal quarantine?

I'll leave those pieces of information with you ... :rolleyes:

Run this by me again. You've lost me here. Are you saying it is a load of ninken poop?

Thanks for the reference PDCP. I've just been told it's the P50 form from HMRC I thought people were using it to charge up their accounts for billions of pounds. The UCC and US treasury being the wealthiest and thus the most bonefide of financial standing. This then meant you were secured to offset any debts placed upon your person. I haven't done it yet but if anyone has, have they had any success in getting the treasury to pay their a4V? I don't think anyone will be coming forward. I can confidently predict that. Though apparently they have in the States. I'm cynical though and want some hard nosed evidence. I'm really busy with ganstas trying to gain access to my possessions and freedom to travel right now. so least of my worries.

[yozhik]

Run this by me again. You've lost me here. Are you saying it is a load of ninken poop?



No ... I was just having one of those connect-the-dots, enlightenment versus paranoia, thinking outside the box moments. :rolleyes:

UCC could be used to interpret our humble lives as an "agricultural operation", which would redefine us as farm produce (livestock).

The flow of livestock through Heathrow is controlled by The City of London Corporation.

I found that incredibly suspicious, given there would be a perfectly adequate and more appropriate government department dealing in agricultural issues or animal health, to oversee this operation.

[h2pogo]

so if the ucc cant be aplied in the uk can we not use contract law..

btw here is a cool vid on the ucc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52idWggW28&feature=channel_page

[yozhik]

so if the ucc cant be aplied in the uk can we not use contract law..

btw here is a cool vid on the ucc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52idWggW28&feature=channel_page

My question is somewhat different ...

If we assume the UCC can not be used in the UK (which I'm still not sure about), can the UCC be used when in communication with UK companies that are also registered with the SEC, which would place them under US jurisdiction and therefore under the guidance of the UCC.

Many, many UK companies are registered with the SEC - most government operations fit into this category.

Does this then place them under the UCC?

[h2pogo]

My question is somewhat different ...

If we assume the UCC can not be used in the UK (which I'm still not sure about), can the UCC be used when in communication with UK companies that are also registered with the SEC, which would place them under US jurisdiction and therefore under the guidance of the UCC.

Many, many UK companies are registered with the SEC - most government operations fit into this category.

Does this then place them under the UCC?

after a quick search for "UNITED KINGDOM" as a company registred with the SEC i found "united kingdom fund inc" what is that i wonder..

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/814830/0000922423-99-000213.txt

[yozhik]

after a quick search for "UNITED KINGDOM" as a company registred with the SEC i found "united kingdom fund inc" what is that i wonder..

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/814830/0000922423-99-000213.txt

Looks like a UK broker (Lazard Freres & Co LLC) registering via Bears Sterns Fund Management, with the SEC.
Any company conducting business, dealing with international financial instruments, must register with the SEC. Nothing too cloak and dagger about that.

But this is my point; Lazard Freres & co LLC is obviously a UK company ... but given that it is now registered with the SEC, does this now mean it is subject to the UCC regulations?
If so, many of the SEC registered companies in the UK system, would also come under its rules and regulations.

Just a thought ... and raised for discussion :)