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manz900
16-04-2009, 05:31 PM
The question is do you believe there is some kind of creator, or being that created human beings? When I say human beings I mean the eternal part of mankind. Do you believe in a creator, or some kind of eternal father?:confused:


Well if you dont believe in a creator, what do you believe in?

nirvana
16-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Yes I believe in god. I keep it simple its my protection in the psychic realm when im lucid dreaming/astral projection.

I think its very healthy to believe in god or a higher energy that helps to protect you. It can keep you grounded.


Peace:)

oiram
16-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Basically In my case I don't believe in anything!

But I try hard to DO what God stands for. Do you know what God the Creator stands for??
Secondly don't worry about others; it's all about you're self not others!http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/mirror.gif

To me it looks like you are looking for some sort of confirmation for something you can not work out you're self?

If you know what God stands for & you are able to implement it by you're own doing; you are closer to God then many believers are.

Remember you will be judged by what you are doing not by what you believe in!

If I would meet you person to person I would not care what you believe in; because it's yours but I would judge you by you're behavior, what you do to me or others.

For me it's simple to do what's God like; for others it's just a permanent search, believe or hope.

You will be judged by your works & evil will judge you by you're believes.
That's my life experience!

If you're eternal you is God like you will not steal, hurt or lie to others!
You will not find God anywhere external of you're self. Even asking others will not give you the answer you are looking for.
If others will find the answer for you & you just follow them you will turn into this http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/sheep.gif

God like is already in you from birth; all you need to do is activate it you're self!
God is closer to you then you're own blood!


Once the believe turns into fiscal positive God like doing; then we finally defeated Evil!

Only a believe without implementing it will not do shit in the real world. That's my logical conclusion.
Or is there something I missed in the school of real life?

I believe but I lie.
I believe but I hurt & kill others
I believe but I steal
.... etc
I go to church or to mosque every week but I still do all the mentioned above.
Thank you God for forgiving me all my evils ?????????
1 + 1 = 3 Who wrote this parts into the book >>>> http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/evil.gif

This is not my God like symbol; sorry! 1 + 1 = 2 in my book.http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/banana.gif

I must be still alone on this earth?
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/ringrin.gif

cheeney1
16-04-2009, 06:37 PM
no I Definately, do Not Believe in such Utter Tripe :cool:

lordzoma
16-04-2009, 06:40 PM
I am my own god.

swethirte
16-04-2009, 11:25 PM
Wr-alda, the All-father. He created time, and time brought forth all things. His spirit is the life-force of the universe.

nofuture
16-04-2009, 11:46 PM
No it's just man's arrogance , envisaging a perfect version of himself.

tejas
17-04-2009, 12:23 AM
God is existence

mauviene
17-04-2009, 02:46 AM
God is existence

I think that's probably right. Since even the belief in god depends upon your existence.

foxcroft
20-04-2009, 09:31 AM
and time brought forth all things.

Incorrect. Time is a perceptual illusion of the 3rd density experience.

size_of_light
20-04-2009, 10:14 AM
The question is do you believe there is some kind of creator, or being that created human beings? When I say human beings I mean the eternal part of mankind. Do you believe in a creator, or some kind of eternal father?:confused:


Well if you dont believe in a creator, what do you believe in?

No.

The 'external' is the problem there. Examine that closely and you'll begin to see how ridiculous the concept of anything 'external' or 'internal' really is.

Break it down and look at it.

Not in some bullshit philosophical way, but really and practically in the here and now.

Show me what is external to you. Define the boundaries of your 'you'.

It's all an illusion held together by your own habitual assumptions that fall apart like a tent does when you cut the strings holding it up.

You have to keep examining it simply and methodically and sawing away at those strings repeatedly until that delusion of something external to you is exhausted and collapsed again and again, and eventually gives up self-inflating it's own sense of importance entirely because you know what?

You know it isn't real.

The notion of it is ludicrous.

But when you get lazy and stop bothering to realise it, illusory parasites can also prey on that pretend identity and exacerbate it's sense of independence, making it cry out in bloated delusion for an external cure to it's own self-created disease.

Or something like that.

Fuck it.

Have a look. Where do you end and other things begin?

If you can prove to me where that line is, I'll retract everything I've just written.

Which is why I'm supremely confident in what I've just said.

phildee3
20-04-2009, 01:40 PM
The question is do you believe there is some kind of creator, or being that created human beings? When I say human beings I mean the eternal part of mankind.



That which is eternal was not created - by definition!

That which will always be, always was!

tracker
20-04-2009, 01:41 PM
The question is do you believe there is some kind of creator, or being that created human beings? When I say human beings I mean the eternal part of mankind. Do you believe in a creator, or some kind of eternal father?:confused:


Well if you dont believe in a creator, what do you believe in?

Other than my own dad ---- there is no other father or creator .

phildee3
20-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Other than my own dad ---- there is no other father or creator .



You must be very unsure, to use such a huge font.

I take it that your answer to the question is that you don't believe that there is.

amethyst
20-04-2009, 05:22 PM
Other than my own dad ---- there is no other father or creator .

The Father gave the breath of life to your father.

lottie
20-04-2009, 05:25 PM
IF YOU SAY IT IN REALLY BIG BOLD WRITING IT MAKES IT TRUE!!!

:rolleyes:

pinnochio
20-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Man why do you always end up getting nasty and being sarcastic with eachother. Everyones entitled to there opinion so shut the fuck up!

lottie
20-04-2009, 06:06 PM
Man why do you always end up getting nasty and being sarcastic with eachother. Everyones entitled to there opinion so shut the fuck up!

You're entirely right yet your post would have gained much more respect and impact had you not told me to shut the fuck up!!

jojo
20-04-2009, 06:11 PM
I believe we are all "god" having an experience. although i hate using that name.

pinnochio
20-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Lottie i meant everyone not you personally. And i was just a bit angry forgive me :)

vipassana
20-04-2009, 07:55 PM
Who created the creator ? :)

adimon
20-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Exactly.

amethyst
20-04-2009, 08:08 PM
Who created the creator ? :)

Can a finite mind comprehend the infinite?

God is and always was......in my opinion :D

element
20-04-2009, 08:10 PM
Who created the creator ? :)
Cute try, but it won't wash.

Of course, the Spirit of any being has no creation, beginning or end. This question is folly.

adimon
20-04-2009, 08:15 PM
Can a finite mind comprehend the infinite?

God is and always was......in my opinion :D

If god is infinite, why can't the universe be?

fromthatshow
20-04-2009, 08:16 PM
There is a creator. He does not acknowledge our illusionary world because it does not exist, and God only knows truth.

vipassana
20-04-2009, 08:58 PM
There is a creator.

But who created the creator ? :)

vipassana
20-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Cute try, but it won't wash.

Neither will the idea of a supreme creator.

phildee3
20-04-2009, 09:25 PM
If god is infinite, why can't the universe be?



Because there is not a universe,
there are infinite multiverses.

fromthatshow
20-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Can a finite mind comprehend the infinite?

God is and always was......in my opinion :D

Exactly. It will all make sense. It is hard to understand from our current viewpoint.

amethyst
20-04-2009, 09:45 PM
Exactly. It will all make sense. It is hard to understand from our current viewpoint.

I agree. Sometimes, oftentimes we are shown glimpses here and there of the transcendence and beauty of God. ;)

phildee3
20-04-2009, 10:05 PM
Can a finite mind comprehend the infinite?



No, but an infinite spirit can,
and one can experience it.



God is and always was......in my opinion :D



Good guess,
you're right,
but can you guess which god?

phildee3
20-04-2009, 10:10 PM
Sometimes, oftentimes we are shown glimpses here and there of the transcendence and beauty of God. ;)



You do use strange language!
Do you think that there is some entity showing us these "glimpses"?
We only see the transcendent by transcending.
We may see the imminant Godhead, but only because we are ready, not because we are shown.

adimon
20-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Because there is not a universe,
there are infinite multiverses.

Really? You know this for sure? And how?

Anyway, infinite multiverses... have they been there forever...for infinity?

You do use strange language!
Do you think that there is some entity showing us these "glimpses"?
We only see the transcendent by transcending.
We may see the imminant Godhead, but only because we are ready, not because we are shown.

Who are you - the language guru?

"We can only see the transcendent by transcending" - so you have presumably done this? Please tell me more. Especially why a transcendent being cares what language people use. And what makes us "ready" to see the godhead.

manz900
21-04-2009, 01:59 AM
I tend to think of the universe as the mother of all life, making god the father. The great mother has always existed.

phildee3
21-04-2009, 01:06 PM
Really? You know this for sure? And how?



Yes, through clairvoyant training, which is synonymous with gaining access to the Akashic records.



Anyway, infinite multiverses... have they been there forever...for infinity?



Yes, they have.



Who are you - the language guru?



No, the dictionary writers are.
They say "transcendent" = above and beyond.
Therefore we must go "above and beyond" if we are to see what is there. If it were brought here it would no longer be transcendent, it would be "immanent."



"We can only see the transcendent by transcending" - so you have presumably done this? Please tell me more.



This is a very complex subject. There are many disciplines available to attain this. Rudolf Steiner's "How to Know Higher Worlds" is highly recommended both for a beginner and the advanced student.



Especially why a transcendent being cares what language people use.



It is a duty to help other sincere seekers find their path.
The careless use of language creates confusion and distraction.



And what makes us "ready" to see the godhead.



This varies with each individual.
It is, perhaps, even possible that somebody could be "ready" without following a disciplinary path, but I would imagine that they would be highly evolved spiritually, having become disciplined in previous incarnations - but I'm getting a bit out of my depth here.

tusme
21-04-2009, 01:25 PM
The question is do you believe there is some kind of creator, or being that created human beings? When I say human beings I mean the eternal part of mankind. Do you believe in a creator, or some kind of eternal father?:confused:

Well if you dont believe in a creator, what do you believe in?
No! I don't believe in god...!!

As my Spirit, though, I exist as knowing & being GOD...as Truth energy!!

Note: Not saying, "I am GOD..." ...big difference!! ;) :)

motokeiru
27-04-2009, 03:07 AM
No, I belive god/gods was/were created by men as tool to enslave other men.

wasd
06-07-2009, 10:40 PM
If you want a god, you can create one.
If you wanna be your own god, you can be that.

Thats my opinion. "Is there a god" isn't a yes or no question, its up to you.