Chemtrails from a aroplane MUST SEE

[pduffy4]

Chemtrails - If you have ever doubted, You won't after this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8-2TAHXfU&amp

It's a 49 second video shot out a plane window.

[gripit]

Chemtrails - If you have ever doubted, You won't after this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8-2TAHXfU&amp

It's a 49 second video shot out a plane window.

I admit, I'm not a chemtrail expert, but holy shit, how can those be contrails? It looks like massive lines of blow in the sky! :eek:

[gilly]

Just seeing it makes my stomach churn. This is our whole planet they're fucking up. It's intolerable.

[romas]

Some comments there suggest it to be "cloud streets" you can look up on google.

[markomac]

Chemtrails - If you have ever doubted, You won't after this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8-2TAHXfU&amp

It's a 49 second video shot out a plane window.

Wow! That is the weirdest shit I have seen yet. I have pictures on my facebook of the ones above my flat in London.

MM

[ritchs]

Totally Awesome Proof that things are really wrong.

And with the media so owned by them, they can completely stonewall us.

Kennedy warned about the importance of a free press. No wonder Jay Rockefeller wants to control the net. This is proof positive of that motive.

This is fantanstic stuff. Yet there are ding-dongs out there who will accept this as cloud seeding or contrails. Like the ufo's being 'swamp gas'

[gripit]

Some comments there suggest it to be "cloud streets" you can look up on google.

from cloudappreciationsociety...

In-flight cloud movie that’s streets ahead of the rest (http://cloudappreciationsociety.org/cloud-streets/)

Cumulus radiatus, also known as cloud streets

Cloud streets

As experienced spotters will know, low clouds can sometimes line up parallel to the wind to form cumulus radiatus, also known as cloud streets.

While it is not uncommon for convection currents to form such patterns, photos like this that clearly show the clouds rolled into strips are apparently rare. It was taken by a Japanese coast guard aircraft off the north-eastern coast of Hokkaido.

As an added treat, you can watch a video of the cloud streets shot through the aircraft window.

Our Japanese is a little rusty but we are reliably informed that the narration says the clouds floated just over the sea surface, stood 300 metres tall and stretched for more than 100 kilometers.

Hey, is there a chemtrail appreciation society website? ;)

I ain't no cloud/chemtrail expert, but here is what I would consider to be a 'cloud street'...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3362

[marpat]

I admit, I'm not a chemtrail expert, but holy shit, how can those be contrails? It looks like massive lines of blow in the sky! :eek:

It looks like cloud formations not contrails. Wht you have to do now is to form an idea of how a cloud can or cannot form such patterns.

Anybody got a good knowledge of weather patterns and cloud formations?

[gilly]

It looks like cloud formations not contrails. Wht you have to do now is to form an idea of how a cloud can or cannot form such patterns.

Anybody got a good knowledge of weather patterns and cloud formations?

Are you sure you looked at the clip on the OP???

[gripit]

Cloud Streets in Concentric Circle Pattern off Angola Coast (http://www.eosnap.com/?tag=cloud-streets)

Like waves rippling out from a pebble thrown into a pond, cloud streets blown by the wind off the coast of Angola take on a pattern of concentric circles.

Cloud streets form along the path of light winds when they blow over open water, such as that of the Atlantic Ocean here. The water is generally warmer than the wind itself, therefore warm air near the surface rises and is then carried by the wind.

Since the air is then rising up, but also being pushed by the wind, the air begins to roll and spin. This creates parallel rows of horizontal vortices in the direction of the wind.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3363

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Cloud Streets Above Bering Sea

Cloud streets are rows of cumulus or cumulus-type clouds aligned parallel to the low-level wind. Here, many are visible above the Bering Sea, between Russia and Alaska.

The most favorable conditions for their formation occur when the lowermost layer of air is unstable, but is capped by an inversion-by a stable layer of air.

This often occurs when upper air is subsiding, such as under anticyclonic conditions, and is also frequently found when radiation fog has formed overnight.

Convection occurs below the inversion, with air rising in thermals below the clouds and sinking in the air between the streets.

Adjacent vortices spin in opposite directions, resulting in alternating patterns of cloud-covered and cloud-free lines.

Here, wind blowing in a westerly direction has bent the straight lines of cloud streets, giving them the appearance of concentric circles.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3364



Hmm...sorry, but I might have to go with cloud streets on this one.

[gilly]

Hmm...sorry, but I might have to go with cloud streets on this one.

No, don't be sorry - just explain, please. The pictures you've just posted don't resemble the ones in the OP. I don't get it. :confused:

[pduffy4]

It looks like cloud formations not contrails. Wht you have to do now is to form an idea of how a cloud can or cannot form such patterns.

Anybody got a good knowledge of weather patterns and cloud formations?

Real clouds don't look like that, marpat.

[gripit]

No, don't be sorry - just explain, please. The pictures you've just posted don't resemble the ones in the OP. I don't get it. :confused:

Well, like I said, I'm no expert. I've been learning for about 5 minutes :)

That site I linked to said those trails were above water and "Our Japanese is a little rusty but we are reliably informed that the narration says the clouds floated just over the sea surface, stood 300 metres tall and stretched for more than 100 kilometers." So, my questions are: are chemtrails generally found over the water? and, have they ever been reported to have been 300 meters tall and 100KM long? or...is the site giving misinformation?

[beldazar]

Are you sure you looked at the clip on the OP???

Yes he has, it was posted before! :mad:

[venividivici2311]

I have to go with gripit on this one.
Just ask yourselfs this,did you guys ever see a chemtrail like that above your home town???i certainly haven't,chemtrails are usually not so thick compared to these clouds,and not so wide.
Chemtrails can get wider but in the proces they get thiner,and these clouds just stay thick.
Chemtrails are usually criss crossed,and not neatly drawn beside eachother (at least not around here lol)
Chemtrails are usually around flying altitude,and not so close to the ground,as you see clearly in the video,the airplain flys at high altitude and the trials are at least a few 100ms underneath it.
This is my theory though,i still could be very wrong :)
I said it before and i say it again:We have to watch out not to get to paranoid!

[banjoreality]

orgonite works. plastic+metal+quartz starts an orgone chain reaction, we are not ants we can help the sky go cloud busting stop the NWO help the sky

[gripit]

This is my theory though,i still could be very wrong :)

Me too!

If these were formed over land, it may be a different story.

Hey, maybe they're spraying the oceans to prevent Gorebull Warming?! :rolleyes:

[beldazar]

Ive just been googling cloud street images and this same picture from the vid occurs time and time again. If there were variations of the same thing, I would be inclined to say ok....
All the other pictures of cloud streets are patterns that are often seen in the sky. Take a look yourself, a prize to anyone who can find a 'similar' picture to the clouds seen in the vid.

[gripit]

Ive just been googling cloud street images and this same picture from the vid occurs time and time again. If there were variations of the same thing, I would be inclined to say ok....
All the other pictures of cloud streets are patterns that are often seen in the sky. Take a look yourself, a prize to anyone who can find a 'similar' picture to the clouds seen in the vid.

I know, I couldn't find any resembling that either. They are strange indeed!

I know those fuckers are chemtrailing us, but since these trails are over water, 300 metres high and 100KM long (apparently), I'm gonna have to go with 'cloud streets'...this time.

[venividivici2311]

Ive just been googling cloud street images and this same picture from the vid occurs time and time again. If there were variations of the same thing, I would be inclined to say ok....
All the other pictures of cloud streets are patterns that are often seen in the sky. Take a look yourself, a prize to anyone who can find a 'similar' picture to the clouds seen in the vid.

If it isn't on google, doesn't say it don't exist ;)

[beldazar]

If it isn't on google, doesn't say it don't exist ;)

Im sure with such an interesting formation, someone must have seen it.

The vid has been posted on this forum before, one is on this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27819&page=10

[steevo]

How much evidence do we NEED before we do something ? Print off some leaflets and distribute them NOW. If you dont do it now, then when ARE you gonna do it ???? :mad: As you can see I'm f*cked off by this cos chemtrail watching has just beome the latest hobby for most people on here. Dont waste time arguing with Marpat, distribute some bloody leaflets. We have a fantastic opportunity to expose the PTB, but we have to do it BEFORE they admit to it, cos that way we can have the most impact.
PLEASE DONT WASTE THIS CHANCE :(

You dont even have to design any leaflets cos I already did that for you, and it was a RIGHT PAIN IN THE F*CKING ARSE having to do that, so please PLEASE print some off NOW. Ignore Marpat's attempts to discredit me and my leaflet. It's YOUR world that the PTB are f*cking up. You now have the option of having perpetual arguments with Marpat. or you can actually do SOMETHING. Just imagine the effect it would have if we leafleted all around the country - The info would spread very rapidly until eventually it would become mainstream. Do it now.
If you dont like my leaflet then I would suggest that you send it out ANYWAY :p OR do your own leaflet which wastes even MORE time :rolleyes:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=212&pictureid=2469

Download leaflet #1 Here (High Quality) (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3624/chemtrails1.jpg)
Download leaflet #2 Here (High Quality) (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2034/chemtrails2.jpg)

[beldazar]

Thanks Steevo, will do!

Thats fair enough Gript. I dont take you for a chemtrail denier....;)

there is an article on the link I posted, it may have an explanation, I didnt read it though........:o

I dont give a fart whether the vid shows real chemtrails are not, I know full well they are spraying us anyway :(

[steevo]

Thanks Steevo, will do!

I dont give a fart whether the vid shows real chemtrails are not, I know full well they are spraying us anyway :(

Thanks Bel.
So it's just me and you then lol (and a few others who ACTUALLY do SOMETHING). So it should take another few years yet before the info spreads to the mainstream :(. We just need to print off say five sheets of A4 paper and cut them in half, and you have 10 leaflets. If we all do that then it will really add up. And later on if we have the courage of our convictions (whatever that means) then we could maybe do another 10.

Come EVERYONE, be COURAGEOUS and distribute a FEW leaflets. How hard is THAT. (ignore Marpat if he tries to discredit my leaflet, that's his job).

[beldazar]

Yeah its depressing eh? Far too many people say, 'what you wanna go do that for? Just work on yourself' (wonder what site theyve been visiting :()

[beldazar]

This isnt really like the vid..

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies;jsessionid=sgdop9yje1.zebr a_s?p=10&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=3

[steevo]

This isnt really like the vid..

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies;jsessionid=sgdop9yje1.zebr a_s?p=10&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=3

That is horrible :( Notice that the house is in shadow, and that the chemtrails are obviously blocking out the sun.

[gripit]

Thats fair enough Gript. I dont take you for a chemtrail denier....;)

Oh, I don't deny it all, it's a fucking fact! "Cloud Streets" don't form criss crosses and don't contain population control chemicals and viruses. Those fuckers are spraying us, zero question in my mind!

Thx for leaflets, steevo :)

Edit:

What do you guys think of this? One of many examples over my city, Toronto, or as I've been calling it the past couple years..."the city of sick". Never in my life have I seen sooooooo many people coughing, hacking and wheezing...all year round!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZngf7uOAtk&feature=PlayList&p=57F0334377BBDB20&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8

[ritchs]

After reading the previous posts, imo the clouds are not natural clouds by any stretch. Otherwise we will soon be accepting crop circles as a perfectly normal thing as well

If these were visible in the skys over a populated area, people would come out of their homes and offices to look up and point at them!

One good thing is though, if people think this is normal stuff, then Project Blue Beam won't even be noticed. (We always hear voices in our heads, its perfectly normal) :D

[gripit]

This isnt really like the vid..

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies;jsessionid=sgdop9yje1.zebr a_s?p=10&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=3

Holy shit!

[beldazar]

After reading the previous posts, imo the clouds are not natural clouds by any stretch. Otherwise we will soon be accepting crop circles as a perfectly normal thing as well

If these were visible in the skys over a populated area, people would come out of their homes and offices to look up and point at them!
One good thing is though, if people think this is normal stuff, then Project Blue Beam won't even be noticed. (We always hear voices in our heads, its perfectly normal) :D

the thing s though they dont. A couple of times I have seen the skies down here in a real mess and people dont seem to see them!
I find it really baffling!
Its been suggested that perhaps its only those that are becoming 'aware' notice them

[rjl9332]

no disrespect but these are clouds in that video. not common, but they are clouds. Chemtrails do not form that way ever. Look with the discerning eye and you will see that these are most likely altostratus undulatus.

Dont get me wrong i know chemtrails are real but its easy to be deceived and think that anything weird in cloud formations is down to chemtrails.

[banjoreality]

Yeah its depressing eh? Far too many people say, 'what you wanna go do that for? Just work on yourself' (wonder what site theyve been visiting :()
HOW REFRESHING, MARPAT ISN'T HERE? Marpy....where are you? yoohoooo!

I have been watching, photographing and trying to complain on an official level for two years (I know some of you have been at it for longer). Forget the official route, what you guys are doing is better (grassroot info, flyers, etc...),
I used to think the orgonomaniacs were a bit weird, I forced myself to do an experiment (can't do no harm right?), I took a little plastic plate, 4 copper coins and a nice big chunk of quartz (yes, by that time I was foaming at the mouth (to see those chemtrail bombings!! aaaarggghhhññññ!!!!), I took time to relax and get positive, stepped out on my balcony and started spraying the sky with my improvised orgonite. I know how crazy it sounds but..... IT F'N WORKED!!!!!! The sky was a pale sickly blue to start off, with they had been spraying the previous day. In a matter of minutes the head of a big cumulus cloud peaked up from the other side of the building, within five minutes it was huge and looming over me, within ten it had spread out and covered the sun, five minutes later the sky was covered and it started to HALE nicely sized chunks of ice, I stopped. Five minutes later the hale stopped, I went out for a walk, it was beautiful: the atmosphere felt cleansed, there were more clouds inland heading North East, they were aprox. 40 km away (I could judge from the hillside), I went back home and did it again and guess what? TAADAA !!!the most beautiful little stormy cloudy lightningy sight I have seen in years!!! That was yesterday, today the sky was half cast, they started spraying the hole with chemtrails, I went out and with all my positive energy started spraying orgone. It worked again, the chemtrails seemed to have no effect, the big clouds came our way and it eventualy rained a little (check it out they have been causing a heavy drought here in Spain for the last few years).
Please I am not saying BELIEVE, just try, it can't do any harm. See for yourself. It makes perfect sense in a quantic manner: This life energy exists in everything, we are not as tiny as we think we are, there is a big place for perception in the process I think, you see the cloud moving and getting bigger, the orgonite helps you channel the orgone making a chain reaction or pulse. The path of an electron is varied when observed, the actual fact of observing it changes it's course, so.... ?
Please try it.

Love

Banjoboy

[marpat]

Are you sure you looked at the clip on the OP???

I have seen it before. It does look unusual but does that mean it is man made?

[banjoreality]

Heeelllooo Marpat, daaarling, I knew you'd be here with your sniveling little debates, you've been there done that, remember?....



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59981

[marpat]

Heeelllooo Marpat, daaarling, I knew you'd be here with your sniveling little debates, you've been there done that, remember?....



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59981

Is there any need to be so childish?

[skunksmash]

Anybody got a good knowledge of weather patterns and cloud formations?

obviously you have NONE Marpat.....:rolleyes:

still you deny, even in the face of ABSOLUTE PROOF of their existence, what they contain is anybody guess, but THEY ARE CHEMTRAILS


im sure you do it intentionally to stir up a storm inside the camp......




:)SK

[skunksmash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAkzlDOo_Zo&NR=1

here's some more ''cloud formation'' for ya......;)







:)SK

[marpat]

obviously you have NONE Marpat.....:rolleyes:

still you deny, even in the face of ABSOLUTE PROOF of their existence, what they contain is anybody guess, but THEY ARE CHEMTRAILS


im sure you do it intentionally to stir up a storm inside the camp......




:)SK

So I take it that you dont have the required knowledge to prove weather a cloud is man made or not, yet you try and attack me!!

As I have asked many times before, do any people in here use respirators to protect themselves and if not why not? I see lots of talk but a lack of conviction when it comes to following things up with actions.

I have said that there is a possibility of such things but that does not make them probably. Again I think your blindness has caused you to stop reading my posts. I also said many times that I will keep an open but questioning mind until I feel that the subject has been proven one way or another.

[marpat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAkzlDOo_Zo&NR=1

here's some more ''cloud formation'' for ya......;)

:)SK

What a pile of dog shit that vid was. It is titled to give the idea that you can stop these trails yet all yo see are some pipes pointing up at the sky followed by loads of pictures. No information on how or what to do.

Have you made a collection of pipes in your garden like that and if so have you stopped chemtrails in your area?

[skunksmash]

What a pile of dog shit that vid was. It is titled to give the idea that you can stop these trails yet all yo see are some pipes pointing up at the sky followed by loads of pictures. No information on how or what to do.

Have you made a collection of pipes in your garden like that and if so have you stopped chemtrails in your area?

LOL...... i never posted it for the crappy contraption that guy has in his garden, it was supposed to clearly show you the difference between a ''contrail'' & a ''chemtrail'', for all i know your probably blind, sitting there with no monitor & a brail keyboard...:rolleyes:

if you watch the vid in the OP, you can see just before the end the CLEAR symmetry of the clouds which could only have been so PERFECTLY formed by the swirl that's created when leaving the jets....

please dont tell me chemtrails are a myth, b/c to do so is not only ignorant its dumb IMO





:)SK

[marpat]

LOL...... i never posted it for the crappy contraption that guy has in his garden, it was supposed to clearly show you the difference between a ''contrail'' & a ''chemtrail'', for all i know your probably blind, sitting there with no monitor & a brail keyboard...:rolleyes:

if you watch the vid in the OP, you can see just before the end the CLEAR symmetry of the clouds which could only have been so PERFECTLY formed by the swirl that's created when leaving the jets....

please dont tell me chemtrails are a myth, b/c to do so is not only ignorant its dumb IMO:)SK

Well if you read my posts I have said they may be possible but not necessarily probably. People in here bitch on that I do not look at the 'evidence' but it seems clear to me that people cannot even look at what I post.

I would think the difference would be that one would have chemicals in it and the other would but why should a picture show you that? can you explain why chemicals should remain suspended in the air for hours anyway or why they should form any sort of trail at all? if they are at 30,000ft then they are harldly much of a hazard. If people are claiming they are heavy particles like barium then why should the trail persist? gravity would tend to have some effect on such particles. When you see crop dusters they drop their load and it falls to earth as you would expect. Aircraft that deliver chemical weapons do so at low level in order to accurately target a given location and the chemicals fall quickly.

There are lots of questions. If you can answer all my questions rather than launching attacks then you may win me over.

[realfake]

It looks like cloud formations not contrails. Wht you have to do now is to form an idea of how a cloud can or cannot form such patterns.

Anybody got a good knowledge of weather patterns and cloud formations?I only have a basic understanding, but it's more than enough to identify those as stratocumulus clouds. And those line formations, or whatever you want to call them, are created when convection currents cut low-lying cumulus (below 8,000ft) into long strips. They're just clouds trapped between air currents.

Hmm...sorry, but I might have to go with cloud streets on this one.Only apologise when you're wrong. Which on this occasion you ain't! :D

[banjoreality]

I only have a basic understanding, but it's more than enough to identify those as stratocumulus clouds. And those line formations, or whatever you want to call them, are created when convection currents cut low-lying cumulus (below 8,000ft) into long strips. They're just clouds trapped between air currents.

Only apologise when you're wrong. Which on this occasion you ain't!
:D

Man, yet another in denial (!?). So you listen to Icke, you probably believe in aliens, reptiles or whatever, you also probably believe at least in some of the NWO agenda bullshit, but you can't get your head around the fact that your government is spraying you (and your loved) ones to death and you probably also can't comprehend the fact that they use the same chems to modify the weather. Right?
WOULD YOU AT LEAST READ UP ON THE SUBJECT BEFORE FLAUNTING YOUR IGNORANCE?....PLEASE.

[gripit]

Man, yet another in denial (!?). So you listen to Icke, you probably believe in aliens, reptiles or whatever, you also probably believe at least in some of the NWO agenda bullshit, but you can't get your head around the fact that your government is spraying you (and your loved) ones to death and you probably also can't comprehend the fact that they use the same chems to modify the weather. Right?
WOULD YOU (cretins) AT LEAST READ UP ON THE SUBJECT BEFORE FLAUNTING YOUR IGNORANCE?....PLEASE.

Nooooo...I am most certainly not denying it...and I don't think banjoreality is either. We are saying not this time, that's all.

Peace :)

[steevo]

Nooooo...I am most certainly not denying it...and I don't think banjoreality is either. We are saying not this time, that's all.

Peace :)

You sound VERY sure.

[gripit]

You sound VERY sure.

Umm...i'm fairly confindent it's 'cloud streets' this time...I guess, lol! You know a lot more about than I do, though.

I've checked out all the youtube vids of chemtrails in Toronto. IMHO, nothing else could have caused the mass sickness all year freaking round here for the past two years; it's chemtrails.

[accuracy]

Chemtrails - If you have ever doubted, You won't after this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8-2TAHXfU&amp

It's a 49 second video shot out a plane window.

Awesome clip!

[beldazar]

Man, yet another in denial (!?). So you listen to Icke, you probably believe in aliens, reptiles or whatever, you also probably believe at least in some of the NWO agenda bullshit, but you can't get your head around the fact that your government is spraying you (and your loved) ones to death and you probably also can't comprehend the fact that they use the same chems to modify the weather. Right?
WOULD YOU (cretins) AT LEAST READ UP ON THE SUBJECT BEFORE FLAUNTING YOUR IGNORANCE?....PLEASE.

Realfake isnt a chemtrail denier either. He has contributed to many posts on the topic.

I wouldnt be absolutely sure they are chemtrails or cloud streets personally although I do sway towards them being chems.

this is an article that Logic bomb posted on the link in one of my posts on this thread'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1999/nov/02/freedomofinformation.politics#article_continue

Germ war cloud floated over shire counties
Area from Yeovil to Guildford secretly sprayed in 1950s as Porton Down tried to counter feared Soviet biological attack in cold war

Rob Evans
The Guardian, Tuesday 2 November 1999 16.51 GMT
Article history
The names of a string of towns and villages from Yeovil to Guildford which were secretly sprayed in large-scale germ warfare experiments in the 1950s can today be revealed in newly released documents.
Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire, Dorset, Somerset and Surrey were the main areas for the trials conducted from the chemical and biological warfare establishment at Porton Down, Wiltshire. The trials are now the subject of an official inquiry by an independent scientist.

The ministry of defence has conceded that the chemical spray could have been harmful and agreed earlier this year to set up the inquiry to establish whether the trials caused any illnesses among the public.

It will be the second inquiry into the panoply of trials during which the chemical spray and bacteria were covertly dispersed over huge swathes of Britain during the cold war.

Scientists from Porton Down sought to determine how vulnerable Britain was to biological attack and to find ways of protecting the country.

Matthew Taylor, the Liberal Democrat MP for Truro and St Austell, said yesterday: "It is astounding that the government could expose British people, who knew nothing for decades, to possible harm in these trials. It is ironic that this was done in the cause of defending the country. It was as if whole chunks of the country had been turned into an experimental laboratory."

Porton is also being investigated by police over its gas chamber experiments on human "guinea pigs" and the death of a young serviceman in a nerve gas test.

The new batch of documents - released to Mr Taylor by Porton - detail how the scientists began the trials in 1953. They were worried that the Russians could disseminate a cloud of deadly germs over massive tracts of Britain from a ship or plane.

To assess how far such a cloud would float over the country, Porton scientists decided to disperse a marker chemical - known as zinc cadmium sulphide - to simulate the path of these clouds.

These fluorescent particles could be traced and counted at numerous sampling points.

In the first trial in November 1953 the chemical was sprayed in an arc from a disused RAF station near Beaulieu in Hampshire northwards for up to 50 miles over Winchester towards Newbury, Berkshire, and Devizes, Wiltshire.

In March 1954, the chemical was again sprayed from Beaulieu, but this time over Shaftesbury and Blandford, Dorset, to Yeovil, Somerset, 50 miles away.

This trial was repeated a month later, although this time the compound was emitted from Porton itself.

In May 1954, Porton scientists released the zinc cadmium sulphide from an RAF base near Yatesbury, Wiltshire, southwards over Warminster, Shaftesbury and Blandford. The sampling points were erected in lines 25 miles away between Salisbury and Mere, Wiltshire, and 50 miles away between Hurn and Cerne Abbas, Dorset.

Two months later, the chemical was dispersed from RAF Hullavington near Chippenham, Wiltshire, eastwards, with the lines of samplers placed firstly in a line 25 miles away near Hungerford, Berkshire and then 50 miles away between Pangbourne and Basingstoke in Hampshire.

A week later, the chemical was sprayed over 80 miles. A generator was towed along a road near Frome, Somerset, while it spewed out the chemical for an hour. Thirty miles away, sampling machines between Salisbury and Marlborough, Wiltshire, were used to monitor the cloud. Another line of samplers had been positioned near Guildford in Surrey, between Ottershaw and Selsey Bill on the Sussex coast.

The experiments changed tack in 1955. On six occasions, Porton scientists disseminated large quantities of the chemical for 25 miles around their establishment so that RAF planes could fly through the clouds and measure their progress. Sampling equipment fitted on to vehicles also tracked the particles on roads around Wiltshire.

From 1956, the trials were greatly expanded as military planes began to spray large amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide around the country.

It was revealed last year that in at least 12 trials in the late 1950s, these planes flew long distances - usually 250 miles - along the coast, dropping the chemical which then drifted miles inland.

In one trial, zinc cadmium sulphide was discharged from a plane from Cornwall to Sussex. Samples of the cloud were collected throughout south-west and central England, parts of Wales, and as far as Yorkshire.

Scientists wanted to see if it was possible to hit a specific target, Coventry, with the particles. Virtually every region in England and Wales was blanketed with the chemical at one time or another in these tests.

The MoD has now conceded that since the end of the trials, "doubts" about the safety of zinc cadmium sulphide have arisen.

The ministry argued that the compound was "probably harmless" and "probably caused no human illness", but set up the inquiry to settle the matter.

A ministry spokeswoman said the MoD had had difficulty finding a scientist with the right expertise to head the inquiry.

An earlier inquiry has already been conducted into another set of germ warfare trials. In the 1960s and 1970s, micro-organisms were sprayed extensively over populated parts of Dorset, Hampshire and Devon, triggering protests from residents when they were revealed two years ago.

The inquiry by an Oxford university microbiologist, Brian Spratt, concluded last January that the trials were unlikely to have harmed the overwhelming majority of healthy residents, but a small number of vulnerable, or already sick people could have suffered infections.

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Its possible that the vid shows a different form of chemtrailing than what we usually encounter

[marpat]

Thats is one of the problems you can encounter. Materials that ae judged safe or harmless 60 years ago are now considered dangerous. Practices that were acceptabel back then are now banned or strictly controlled to prevent injury and illness, etc. The world we live in now is far different to back then. I work on a radar that contains berrillium yet there was a time that it was considered safe. Now we have to carry out all sorts of procedures to ensure that we do not inhale the stuff.

Nothing is perfect but this does not mean there is an agenda, just a lack of knowledge and accountability. Of course they would try to distance themselves from these experiements purely because of the risk of massive payouts. They dont like to pay for their mistakes.

[banjoreality]

they did it then and they are doing it now marpat: it's called direct indirect aerosol programs or scattering and it is practiced (today) by pacific northwest lab and battelle (amongst many others) google it and stop the denial.... if you aren't intel....

[marpat]

they did it then and they are doing it now marpat: it's called direct indirect aerosol programs or scattering and it is practiced (today) by pacific northwest lab and battelle (amongst many others) google it and stop the denial.... if you aren't intel....

The Oracle of google. Am I worthy to blindly accept its truth?

[banjoreality]

The Oracle of google. Am I worthy to blindly accept its truth?

no but you could at least take a look at the ASP site, or look up the documents at the NOTHWEST LABS site, they practice (every day) what they call direct and indirect aerosol programs (chemtrailing). or can't u be asked? come on, read up and debate.....

[marpat]

no but you could at least take a look at the ASP site, or look up the documents at the NOTHWEST LABS site, they practice (every day) what they call direct and indirect aerosol programs (chemtrailing). or can't u be asked? come on, read up and debate.....

I will look at that site then.

[marpat]

Well if you take their information as truth then look at this material on persistent contrials:

http://www.pnl.gov/aisu/pubs/eemw/papers/ipccreports/specialreports/aviation/038.htm

If you want to disprove it then you can use some scientific knowledge at least the equivalent of theirs.

[marpat]

Aerosol effects on ice clouds. Also mentions contrail formed clouds;

http://www.pnl.gov/aisu/pubs/eemw/papers/ipccreports/workinggroup1/242.htm#6861

I could respect this type of information because it is based on scientific knowledge and fact not silly speculations and intuition.

[beldazar]

Aerosol effects on ice clouds. Also mentions contrail formed clouds;

http://www.pnl.gov/aisu/pubs/eemw/papers/ipccreports/workinggroup1/242.htm#6861

I could respect this type of information because it is based on scientific knowledge and fact not silly speculations and intuition.

Like you respect the ones in power eh Marpat? :rolleyes:

[marpat]

http://www.pnl.gov/atmospheric/research/aci/

Here is mentioned the use of aerosols to reflect radiation. I have indicated before that I would expect nations to study and reseach such subjects purely because of the human inclination to try and be master of the environment.

We could look at such subject from two angles. One, we could not bother to learn anything about weather modification so that when the weather is extremely bad there is no way to try and deal with that problem: two, we can lern about how to manipulate weather to benefit humanity ,i.e. to create rain clouds over a drought area.

This in itself does not mean that persistent contrails in the sky are chemtrails neither does it prove that any sort of weather modification is going on above is. What these documents tell us is that these subjects are being researched.

[marpat]

Like you respect the ones in power eh Marpat? :rolleyes:

It seems clear to me that they are the ones who know what they are talking about and can back it up with data and facts. Banjo is the one who told me to look at that site and it has got plenty of information on there for any of you.

[banjoreality]

It seems clear to me that they are the ones who know what they are talking about and can back it up with data and facts. Banjo is the one who told me to look at that site and it has got plenty of information on there for any of you.

It's banjoreality for you mate, banjo is for the intimates.:D

[marpat]

It's banjoreality for you mate, banjo is for the intimates.:D

Well I looked at the site your recommended and it give lots of scientific information about persistent contrails, etc. It is really the sort of stuff people in here need to be reading before just assuming that they are right. Thank you for pointing me towards it. Have you read that stuff yourself?

[banjoreality]

Well I looked at the site your recommended and it give lots of scientific information about persistent contrails, etc. It is really the sort of stuff people in here need to be reading before just assuming that they are right. Thank you for pointing me towards it. Have you read that stuff yourself?

you didn't look up SCATTERING or DIRECT INDIRECT AEROSOL PROGRAMS did u?

[liquidswords]

Man, those are clouds, come on...

This willingness to label anything and everything in the sky as chemtrails is beginning to make this the most paranoid forum on here. Yeah, more than the 9/11 one.

[flyermay]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related

[banjoreality]

Man, those are clouds, come on...

This willingness to label anything and everything in the sky as chemtrails is beginning to make this the most paranoid forum on here. Yeah, more than the 9/11 one.

CLOUDS! :rolleyes: MAN YOU COME HERE POST 20 TIMES AND YOU SAY "IS BEGINNING TO MAKE THIS SITE THE MOST PARANOID FORUM" what you said doesn't even make sense, what makes us paranoid are PAID GOV. SHILLS SUCH AS YOURSELF. IT'S CALLED DIRECT INDIRECT AEOROSOL PROGRAMS AND THEY DO IT EVERYDAY. Debunk the pic flyermay posted..... go on give it a go.....

[liquidswords]

CLOUDS! :rolleyes: MAN YOU COME HERE POST 20 TIMES AND YOU SAY "IS BEGINNING TO MAKE THIS SITE THE MOST PARANOID FORUM" what you said doesn't even make sense, what makes us paranoid are PAID GOV. SHILLS SUCH AS YOURSELF. IT'S CALLED DIRECT INDIRECT AEOROSOL PROGRAMS AND THEY DO IT EVERYDAY. Debunk the pic flyermay posted..... go on give it a go.....


lol.. i'm a long time reader, but only a recent poster, no issue needs to be made of that.

I doubt theres any need for me to debunk the pic, it looks genuine enough, but having tanks inside a plane, could be explained numerous ways. One comment posted on the youtube vid seems plausible enough. Certainly more so than they are obviously there as they contain the 'chem' for the chemtrails themselves. Look, I dont think anyone, even the skeptics, would deny that this doesnt ever happen - for whatever reasons, weather experimentation etc, it probably sometimes does - but to maintain that there is an ongoing agenda to do it, and for nefarious reasons to boot, is nonsensical and hardly backed up by any proof at all.

(hey in less than 20 posts I got called a gov. shill... is that a record I wonder) :eek::)

[beldazar]

Its quite common for newbies to come on the forum and ridicule just about everything, it matters not though as despite what they say, it makes no dofference whatsoever to whats going on in the world.

Now wouldnt it be great if somebody just stated 'its not true' and it became so? :rolleyes:

[banjoreality]

lol.. i'm a long time reader, but only a recent poster, no issue needs to be made of that.

I doubt theres any need for me to debunk the pic, it looks genuine enough, but having tanks inside a plane, could be explained numerous ways. One comment posted on the youtube vid seems plausible enough. Certainly more so than they are obviously there as they contain the 'chem' for the chemtrails themselves. Look, I dont think anyone, even the skeptics, would deny that this doesnt ever happen - for whatever reasons, weather experimentation etc, it probably sometimes does - but to maintain that there is an ongoing agenda to do it, and for nefarious reasons to boot, is nonsensical and hardly backed up by any proof at all.

(hey in less than 20 posts I got called a gov. shill... is that a record I wonder) :eek::)
laa di laa di laaa, fascism doesn't exist and noooooo, we are definitly not there yet noooooo, some day maybe but not today, that kind of blind moronic denial is what is practiced by a majority of people who can't comprehend the situation: your gov. has been manipulating the weather for ages, has been spraying you (that's right you knob, you and your precious little kiddies) for decades and you still think you live in tellituby land...... good luck to you, apparently you can't smell the shit on your face (it got there by hitting the fan first, about 5 years back).
at least 200 000 British civilians have died as a result of direct and indirect aerosol programs in the last 5 years, so yes, denial is fucking criminal.
go home tellitubby.

[marpat]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related


Next you will be posting renses pics of a refuelling pod where he tries to say its for spraying. He used a lot of maybes as well

[marpat]

laa di laa di laaa, fascism doesn't exist and noooooo, we are definitly not there yet noooooo, some day maybe but not today, that kind of blind moronic denial is what is practiced by a majority of people who can't comprehend the situation: your gov. has been manipulating the weather for ages, has been spraying you (that's right you knob, you and your precious little kiddies) for decades and you still think you live in tellituby land...... good luck to you, apparently you can't smell the shit on your face (it got there by hitting the fan first, about 5 years back).
at least 200 000 British civilians have died as a result of direct and indirect aerosol programs in the last 5 years, so yes, denial is fucking criminal.
go home tellitubby.


Well please prove these statistic and how they are directly related to to contrials. Oh I forgot, you said its about intuition and not proof. Maybe you need to get back to tubby land

[skunksmash]

Well please prove these statistic and how they are directly related to to contrials. Oh I forgot, you said its about intuition and not proof. Maybe you need to get back to tubby land


MARPAT...... how long are you gonna keep this up..??:confused:

it must take some serious energy to hunt down every ''chemtrail'' thread on the forum & try to debunk them...

i think were past that now mate, the government have OPENLY stated their spraying for ''global warming'' reasons, maybe you should move your argument to, what damage these chemicals actually produce, you seem like a ''pit-bull'' type of guy that loves to turn over rocks, you would be a great researcher......;)

....instead of trying to prove things that are CLEARLY happening to be myth.... help us determine what is being sprayed & what we can do to protect ourselves...

what do ya think of that..??






:)SK

[flyermay]

lol.. i'm a long time reader, but only a recent poster, no issue needs to be made of that.

I doubt theres any need for me to debunk the pic, it looks genuine enough, but having tanks inside a plane, could be explained numerous ways. One comment posted on the youtube vid seems plausible enough. Certainly more so than they are obviously there as they contain the 'chem' for the chemtrails themselves. Look, I dont think anyone, even the skeptics, would deny that this doesnt ever happen - for whatever reasons, weather experimentation etc, it probably sometimes does - but to maintain that there is an ongoing agenda to do it, and for nefarious reasons to boot, is nonsensical and hardly backed up by any proof at all.

(hey in less than 20 posts I got called a gov. shill... is that a record I wonder) :eek::)

Hearing you say that is enough for me; I agree with you that the rest is just especulation. However, what you have just admited is a fact...

Maybe you are right, and it is no more than weather experimentation, maybe even some other harmless experiment. But think about this: why hide it and deny it if it is harmless???

[flyermay]

Next you will be posting renses pics of a refuelling pod where he tries to say its for spraying. He used a lot of maybes as well

You can reach you own conclusions; it makes no difference to me. My intention is not to explain what colours are to blind men, but tell people that colours exist and show them to the ones who can already see.

[flyermay]

i think were past that now mate, the government have OPENLY stated their spraying for ''global warming'' reasons, maybe you should move your argument to, what damage these chemicals actually produce, you seem like a ''pit-bull'' type of guy that loves to turn over rocks, you would be a great researcher......;)

You just hit the nail in the head!!!

[anthony65]

MARPAT...... how long are you gonna keep this up..??:confused:

it must take some serious energy to hunt down every ''chemtrail'' thread on the forum & try to debunk them...

i think were past that now mate, the government have OPENLY stated their spraying for ''global warming'' reasons, maybe you should move your argument to, what damage these chemicals actually produce, you seem like a ''pit-bull'' type of guy that loves to turn over rocks, you would be a great researcher......;)

....instead of trying to prove things that are CLEARLY happening to be myth.... help us determine what is being sprayed & what we can do to protect ourselves...

what do ya think of that..??






:)SK

If only he would hunt down every post and try to debunk it....

He still hasn't replied to this one...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=932832&postcount=5

Artificial snow? :D

[anthony65]

lol.. i'm a long time reader, but only a recent poster, no issue needs to be made of that.

I doubt theres any need for me to debunk the pic, it looks genuine enough, but having tanks inside a plane, could be explained numerous ways. One comment posted on the youtube vid seems plausible enough. Certainly more so than they are obviously there as they contain the 'chem' for the chemtrails themselves. Look, I dont think anyone, even the skeptics, would deny that this doesnt ever happen - for whatever reasons, weather experimentation etc, it probably sometimes does - but to maintain that there is an ongoing agenda to do it, and for nefarious reasons to boot, is nonsensical and hardly backed up by any proof at all.

(hey in less than 20 posts I got called a gov. shill... is that a record I wonder) :eek::)

Please read the following post and tell me what you think...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=932832&postcount=5

Do you still believe that there is no long-term agenda? :confused:

[banjoreality]

MARPAT...... how long are you gonna keep this up..??:confused:

it must take some serious energy to hunt down every ''chemtrail'' thread on the forum & try to debunk them...

i think were past that now mate, the government have OPENLY stated their spraying for ''global warming'' reasons, maybe you should move your argument to, what damage these chemicals actually produce, you seem like a ''pit-bull'' type of guy that loves to turn over rocks, you would be a great researcher......;)

....instead of trying to prove things that are CLEARLY happening to be myth.... help us determine what is being sprayed & what we can do to protect ourselves...

what do ya think of that..??






:)SK

HE DOSEN'T WASTE ANY ENERGY, HE GETS PAID TO PUBLICLY DENY THE FACTS..... marpat: short for marine pattern ie: camouflage.
and liquidsword.... I said you are either ignorant or a shill.... so which one is it?

[liquidswords]

laa di laa di laaa, fascism doesn't exist and noooooo, we are definitly not there yet noooooo, some day maybe but not today, that kind of blind moronic denial is what is practiced by a majority of people who can't comprehend the situation: your gov. has been manipulating the weather for ages, has been spraying you (that's right you knob, you and your precious little kiddies) for decades and you still think you live in tellituby land...... good luck to you, apparently you can't smell the shit on your face (it got there by hitting the fan first, about 5 years back).
at least 200 000 British civilians have died as a result of direct and indirect aerosol programs in the last 5 years, so yes, denial is fucking criminal.
go home tellitubby.

wow.. talk about vitriol.. is this a discussion or just somewhere to mouth abuse. If you cant bring valid points or arguments to the table, without resorting to insults, you need to log off.


HE DOSEN'T WASTE ANY ENERGY, HE GETS PAID TO PUBLICLY DENY THE FACTS..... marpat: short for marine pattern ie: camouflage.
and liquidsword.... I said you are either ignorant or a shill.... so which one is it?

If those are my choices... ooh its a tough one. Ignorant I suppose. They do say that is bliss dont they?

[liquidswords]

Hearing you say that is enough for me; I agree with you that the rest is just especulation. However, what you have just admited is a fact...

Maybe you are right, and it is no more than weather experimentation, maybe even some other harmless experiment. But think about this: why hide it and deny it if it is harmless???

Thanks.

And yes, you're right I suppose in one sense. But, hiding the truth is also not really an indication that it is harmful either. Just that 'they' dont want us to know - the reasons for that could be myriad.

Anthony65 - wow thats a long post. I will come back on that one.

[banjoreality]

wow.. talk about vitriol.. is this a discussion or just somewhere to mouth abuse. If you cant bring valid points or arguments to the table, without resorting to insults, you need to log off.




If those are my choices... ooh its a tough one. Ignorant I suppose. They do say that is bliss dont they?
man don't take it personally but.. any one who is in denial over the fact that our gov. is practicing what they call scattering or aerosol programs, should have their perceptions reprogrammed...... too late for denial, the gov. has recognized the facts, the military has recognized the facts....look it up...... oh and they fuck around with the weather, but I guess that will definitely be too much for you.

[anthony65]

Thanks.

And yes, you're right I suppose in one sense. But, hiding the truth is also not really an indication that it is harmful either. Just that 'they' dont want us to know - the reasons for that could be myriad.

Anthony65 - wow thats a long post. I will come back on that one.

Take your time! :)

The facts I collected clearly demonstrate that chemtrails are feasible, that chemtrails as part of geoengineering have been planned for a long time, that weather manipulation is real and a massive threat....

[manxboz]

Wow thats some frekky stuff right there!

[flyermay]

Thanks.

And yes, you're right I suppose in one sense. But, hiding the truth is also not really an indication that it is harmful either. Just that 'they' dont want us to know - the reasons for that could be myriad.

Again I agree. However, would you hide and deny something good you did? No, you would only hide and deny it if it's bad.

Either way, chemtrails are a fact and I'm glad people stop denying it. Now the next step is find out what they are exactly for...

We must demand an official explanation (nomatter if they lie to us, that can also be used against them further on).

[skunksmash]

ITS STERILIZATION....... on a very gradual scale, in about 20 years i hear the only way you'll be able to have a child is by going to the hospital & being implanted.....:mad:


they are removing our ability to reproduce at the genetic level....:(:(






:)SK

[flyermay]

ITS STERILIZATION....... on a very gradual scale, in about 20 years i hear the only way you'll be able to have a child is by going to the hospital & being implanted.....:mad:


they are removing our ability to reproduce at the genetic level....:(:(


:)SK

I was just thinking about the same thing during the weekend. I saw on the news a small report about that subject and there is no doubt that at this pace we will all be sterile pretty soon.

Can you believe that as of today, 20% of couples are sterile already. Just in males you can see sperm quality and count going down considerably just in 50 years. Just a coicidence? Maybe not...

(And I'm talking about real and serious studies, not "crazy" conspiracy theories)

[banjoreality]

I was just thinking about the same thing during the weekend. I saw on the news a small report about that subject and there is no doubt that at this pace we will all be sterile pretty soon.

Can you believe that as of today, 20% of couples are sterile already. Just in males you can see sperm quality and count going down considerably just in 50 years. Just a coicidence? Maybe not...

(And I'm talking about real and serious studies, not "crazy" conspiracy theories)

the first time I heard DI talk extensively about HAARP/ chemtrails, I got

freaked: when the interviewer asked him what he thought they were for he

said something like: I believe that they are ultimately there to affect our

perception, the way we see reality...... I freaked out, I thought what a con!!!

aren't we meant to attack our MPs !!!!!!! demand truth!!!!!! phone the UN!!!!!

Email the president!!!!!!!!!

Locally I think I have tried to do all I can, you phone ministers of blablabla...

you ask questions and you realize: Yes, there is a conspiracy, yes all the

scum are in on it and no, there is hardly fuck all you can do about it, except

insist and eventually give them enough proof that you are utterly

N U T S. I mean come on!!!! A chemtrail conspiracy!!?? Eugenics? what's

that? what are you on mate?!? why not UFO's while yur at it???

SO, you get kinda depressed, you feel alone and helpless and sometimes

crazy. (look mom!!! there's f'n hundreds of em!!! look UP!!!!- mom (on

aspartame) son it's always been like it, stop it please! you are making me

nervous!)

AND that's where they want you...... David Icke (as per usual), is RIGHT:

It is all just a mind game, there is so much more to it then just this

dimension, we are VERY POWERFUL BEINGS and we are just going to get

more powerful by the minute.

Don't let them get you down, eat lots o' vitamins, fight it from the inside

out. Smile we are winning!!!

for newcomers, such as myself, you can find more mind over chemtrail info at this link Anthony65

posted (thanks again:))

http//educate-yourself.org/ct/

[flyermay]

the first time I heard DI talk...

The first time I heard of David Icke, I simply thought: "this guy is nuts...". Today, when I remeber that day, I think: "how naive I was at that time..."

[marpat]

MARPAT...... how long are you gonna keep this up..??:confused:

it must take some serious energy to hunt down every ''chemtrail'' thread on the forum & try to debunk them...

i think were past that now mate, the government have OPENLY stated their spraying for ''global warming'' reasons, maybe you should move your argument to, what damage these chemicals actually produce, you seem like a ''pit-bull'' type of guy that loves to turn over rocks, you would be a great researcher......;)

....instead of trying to prove things that are CLEARLY happening to be myth.... help us determine what is being sprayed & what we can do to protect ourselves...

what do ya think of that..??






:)SK

But I dont try to debunk them I just ask peoppe questions. that is the whole problem I think for some people, they dont want people to ask questions, or not ones that they cannot answer.

Well if you are convinced you are being sprayed then you need to start doing something about it. If it were me and I was 80-90 % convinced then I would wear a form of respirator. You can get ones that do not look military and which cover the lower part of the face, industrial types. You may look a little mad but if people ask you about it you can present then with all your information. If they die of poisoning and you dont then who cares about looking stupid? I have seen pictures of japan where people are walking around with masks on to protect themselves from air pollution so why not start such a trend here? even Michael jackson wears a mask, probably to keep his face on though :D

The way I see it, if people fully believe they are being poisoned and do not take precautions for themselves or their kids, or are doing nothing about the situation to publicly highlight it, then those people are willing participants in mass poisoning.

[marpat]

HE DOSEN'T WASTE ANY ENERGY, HE GETS PAID TO PUBLICLY DENY THE FACTS..... marpat: short for marine pattern ie: camouflage.
and liquidsword.... I said you are either ignorant or a shill.... so which one is it?

I would tell you what you are but I reckon the post would be removed. However, you are a very big one :D

Am I denying facts or asking questions? I remain unconvinced by your theories.

Are there only two options in your little mind? I could ask if you are mental or a cult follower, which are you?

I get paid with public money but not to be in here!!!

[banjoreality]

I would tell you what you are but I reckon the post would be removed. However, you are a very big one :D

Am I denying facts or asking questions? I remain unconvinced by your theories.

Are there only two options in your little mind? I could ask if you are mental or a cult follower, which are you?

I get paid with public money but not to be in here!!!

I see you changed you avatar, that picture depicts a crop circle right?
Do you believe in aliens? if so, prove to me they exist.....

Do you believe that little nazi piece of shite, A. Crowley had super duper magic powers? if so, prove it.

So you work for the gov? nice one, can't wait to see you on the dole with the rest of them (oh yeah, they will sack you too, eventualy).
Then you might have time to research chemtrails.
VIVA LE CRISIS!!!!

[liquidswords]

Take your time! :)

The facts I collected clearly demonstrate that chemtrails are feasible, that chemtrails as part of geoengineering have been planned for a long time, that weather manipulation is real and a massive threat....

Finally got round to it. :)

I was surprised to see Chemtrails actually mentioned by name in the Space Preservation Act - especially this part:

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

That is interesting, but not really a clear indication of anything.

As for the National Academy of Sciences bit, I did only scan through what was a long document - however, it seemed to me that this was only a proposal. Did this become policy, or did it remain a proposal? The plan to reduce the planets albedo doesnt seem to tie in to a massive plan to gas the population of the planet. Or are they perhaps doing both at the same time...

The biggest smoking gun to me has to be the report that the Guardian reported on - I hadnt come across this before. This is plain truth that this has occured in the past. As for it happening now.. I dont know.

Some interesting points and I still havent covered all of them - however, I have to remain of the opinion that this doesnt happen 24-7, 365, all over the planet. It has happened and it probably still does. But every wispy white trail left by a plane, whether it lasts 10 minutes or 2 hours, is more than likely not a chemtrail IMO.

An aeroplane I saw the other day was leaving a dark black trail - something I dont think I've seen before... is there a theory on these perhaps..