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markhowie
09-02-2007, 01:57 PM
Aloha everyone
it is mark in france (in my best english)
after fighting fachisme for many years (even in your contry in the early 80s, when we squated the common land that thatcher had given to regan to put his missiles on, where we grew wheat for ethiopia) after many years of fighting and protesting, spending time in jail and in the field ripping up gm crops.... i have come to the realisation that all of the actions and time spent had not slowed down this machien that is distroying the planet and the quality of life for every thing... So like david i started my reserch several years ago to find out who was behind all of this...Most of what david, alex and others say is very true....
My reserch has led me into history to and I would like to talk about what i think about why "they" went into the americas, africa, australia, china, india etc etc and tried to erase all traces of who we realy are.... the whitch hunt here in europe that lasted hundres of years...
WHY, WHAT do "they" not want us to find-out..?
(i needed to start with a hypothisis, so
Who are we realy, what have we come here to do, what are we capable of....??? )
"They are afraid that we discover who we realy are...!"
So i start to look to the old ways (the older the better)
pre-semarien
i found that the conciousness of any civilisation is based if not rooted in its calendar (we for example are stuck in linier time with a purly phisical calendar that hold us in a material world......
that many of the old cililisations have 360 day calendars whitch corespond to the different cycles of evolution and the acceleration of time ( for those that want ) cheque-out eg: the mayan callendars TUN, TZOLKIN and HAAB
even david talked about the TUN last august
http://www.mayanmajix.com/David_Icke_newsletter.html

I found out also that that all the different druidique and shamanique ways all talk about AKA and its root in Akashic
see:History of Akashic records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_Records
there is a base knolage that is in a shared root of knowlage shared by many peoples aroud the world.....
So i start to look for a un-distorted version of an old-way of being... whitch has led me to a Hawaiian interpritation called HUNA... it is not the only interpritation of this ancient knowlage, for me for now it is my choise...
It is a way to take back your power.... to be a co-createur...
to participate in creation conciously... find a reason to be...!
To understand and harmonise the conection of the Three Selves, and the Four Levels of Reality , (the three selfs :the consious, sub-consious and super consious) with seven principales , so simple that alot of people find it dificlt to belive...
here are them in englise and french...
IKE -The world is what you think it is
Le monde est ce que l'on pense qu'il est. ( il y a mille manières de percevoir les choses )

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
Il n'y a pas de limites. ( Ôte les cotraints. Prends la liberté de changer d’avis, de croyances)

MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
L'énergie va là où se pose l'attention. / L’attention guide le flux d’energie.
(focalise-toi sur ce que tu veux )

MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
Maintenant est l’instant de puissance. ( Sois pleinement dans le present )

ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
Aimer c'est d'être heureux avec le bien qui existe. ( Benis ce qui est. Le partage « alo », joyeux « oha », d’energie de la vie « ha », dans le présent « alo ».

MANA -All power comes from within
Tout le pouvoir vient de l'intérieur. ( Fais confiance à ta propre puissance )

PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth
L'efficacité est la mesure de la vérité. ( Crois en tes idéaux, réalise-les (réve actif ))

i will stop there for now this is getting long
for more info on the HUNA you can try :
http://www.huna.org/html/teaching.html

i am looking forward to charing many things with you all on this forum...
Ho'omoe wai kahi ke kao'o (Let's all travel together like water flowing in one direction)

@+ mark

mari
09-02-2007, 02:20 PM
Good post. (your french isn't bad either!;) )

Aloha & welcome to the forum!

lookfar
09-02-2007, 10:30 PM
Aloha everyone
it is mark in france (in my best english)
after fighting fachisme for many years (even in your contry in the early 80s, when we squated the common land that thatcher had given to regan to put his missiles on, where we grew wheat for ethiopia) after many years of fighting and protesting, spending time in jail and in the field ripping up gm crops.... i have come to the realisation that all of the actions and time spent had not slowed down this machien that is distroying the planet and the quality of life for every thing... So like david i started my reserch several years ago to find out who was behind all of this...Most of what david, alex and others say is very true....
My reserch has led me into history to and I would like to talk about what i think about why "they" went into the americas, africa, australia, china, india etc etc and tried to erase all traces of who we realy are.... the whitch hunt here in europe that lasted hundres of years...
WHY, WHAT do "they" not want us to find-out..?
(i needed to start with a hypothisis, so
Who are we realy, what have we come here to do, what are we capable of....??? )
"They are afraid that we discover who we realy are...!"
So i start to look to the old ways (the older the better)
pre-semarien
i found that the conciousness of any civilisation is based if not rooted in its calendar (we for example are stuck in linier time with a purly phisical calendar that hold us in a material world......
that many of the old cililisations have 360 day calendars whitch corespond to the different cycles of evolution and the acceleration of time ( for those that want ) cheque-out eg: the mayan callendars TUN, TZOLKIN and HAAB
even david talked about the TUN last august
http://www.mayanmajix.com/David_Icke_newsletter.html

I found out also that that all the different druidique and shamanique ways all talk about AKA and its root in Akashic
see:History of Akashic records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_Records
there is a base knolage that is in a shared root of knowlage shared by many peoples aroud the world.....
So i start to look for a un-distorted version of an old-way of being... whitch has led me to a Hawaiian interpritation called HUNA... it is not the only interpritation of this ancient knowlage, for me for now it is my choise...
It is a way to take back your power.... to be a co-createur...
to participate in creation conciously... find a reason to be...!
To understand and harmonise the conection of the Three Selves, and the Four Levels of Reality , (the three selfs :the consious, sub-consious and super consious) with seven principales , so simple that alot of people find it dificlt to belive...
here are them in englise and french...
IKE -The world is what you think it is
Le monde est ce que l'on pense qu'il est. ( il y a mille manières de percevoir les choses )

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
Il n'y a pas de limites. ( Ôte les cotraints. Prends la liberté de changer d’avis, de croyances)

MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
L'énergie va là où se pose l'attention. / L’attention guide le flux d’energie.
(focalise-toi sur ce que tu veux )

MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
Maintenant est l’instant de puissance. ( Sois pleinement dans le present )

ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
Aimer c'est d'être heureux avec le bien qui existe. ( Benis ce qui est. Le partage « alo », joyeux « oha », d’energie de la vie « ha », dans le présent « alo ».

MANA -All power comes from within
Tout le pouvoir vient de l'intérieur. ( Fais confiance à ta propre puissance )

PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth
L'efficacité est la mesure de la vérité. ( Crois en tes idéaux, réalise-les (réve actif ))

i will stop there for now this is getting long
for more info on the HUNA you can try :
http://www.huna.org/html/teaching.html

i am looking forward to charing many things with you all on this forum...
Ho'omoe wai kahi ke kao'o (Let's all travel together like water flowing in one direction)

@+ mark

Aloha Mark and welcome

This is all very interesting.

Would you mind sharing and elaborating on what it means to be an "Urban Shaman" as I would like to learn more about this? In english please as I'm afraid my french isn't very good:)

I will also check out the Hawaiian HUNA information as it sounds fascinating. Thank you for sharing this:)

naturesdaughter
09-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Bonjour Monsieur,
Come-t-allez vous? Moi? je suis bien. Je pense a faire mon francaise une petite.:o J'adore la langue francaise et j'etait une etudiante de francaise por deux ans maintenant. So welcome and be welcome.:)

2013
09-02-2007, 11:49 PM
We are out of time in the sense that we do not follow natural time , many people still do the pagan wiccan culture as well as mayan follow the naturla 13 moon calendar.Apparently there was a motion put before the league of nations back in early 1900's to reform the calendar to the 13 month one .It was proposed to be introduced on the 1st of january around 1933 i think but the vatican! you guessed it vetoed it . AS soon as i find the link for this info i will post it .Check out the mayan calendar do a search loads of info out there .At the moment we have just started a series of 10 portal days where the alignment of energies is increased ,takes a bit of working out but it is amazing DNA realted time cycle.The mayans use 13 lunar months of 28 days to make up 364 days a year , on the next day it is a GREENDAY a day out of time a time to reflect on what has gone and what is to come the next day is the new year of july The 26th.Also the heliacal rising of sirius as seen from egypt.:D The word calendar apparently comes from the latin roman word calend wich refers to accounts and book keeping .It was decided to add as you know to extra months july and august ,as has already been posted here b4 (hence sept-7 oct -8 nov -9 dec -10)to increase taxation as well as glorify the 2 emperors .How long before we have georguary ?:eek: Check out theMayan calendar for yourselves and start getting in touch with natural time .

2013
09-02-2007, 11:52 PM
In accordance with an old prophecy...



The Church of Love is proclaimed in 1986. -

It has no fabric - only understanding.

It has no membership - save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals - because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve.

It knows of no boundaries for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all the ages who have shown the truth of Love.


Those who participate, practise the Truth of Love in all their daily being.

There is no walk of life or nationality that is a barrier.


Those who are, know. It seeks not to teach but to be, and by being, enrich.

It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One.

It recognises that the way we are may be the way of those around us because we are that way.


It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part.

It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazoned the path but paid the price.

It admits of no hierarchy or structure, for no one is greater than another.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being and their eyes and by no other outward sign, save the fraternal embrace.

Each one will dedicate his or her life to the silent loving of their neighbour and environment and the planet, whilst carrying out their daily task, however exalted or humble.

It recognises the supremacy of the great idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices the supremacy of Love.

It has no rewards to offer, either here or in the hereafter, save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek only to advance the cause of understanding, within whichever church, group or family they happen to be.

They shall do good by stealth and teach only by example.

They shall heal their neighbour, their community and our Planet.

They shall know no fear, and feel no shame and their witness shall prevail over all odds.


It has no secrets, no arcanum, no initiations save that of the true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change but only if we change ourselves first.


ALL THOSE WHO BELONG, BELONG, THAT IS THE CHURCH OF LOVE

http://www.fountain-international.org/origins/cathar.htm:D

markhowie
10-02-2007, 11:35 AM
Aloha lookfar
i would sugest commencing with a book called :
Mastering your hidden self (serg kahili king)
Quest Books ISBN 13:978-0-8356-0591-5
and ISBN 10 : 0-8356-0591-4 (11.95 dollas)
or here with a plastic card : http://www.huna.net/HBM/Books/myhs.html

i am not trying to sell nothing
you dont have to buy a book if you aint got no money
theres lots of free stuff on the the link :
http://www.huna.org/html/teaching.html
The Seven Principles, the Three Selves, and the Four Levels of Reality is a realy good start

Waiho wale kahiko (Old secrets are now revealsd)

Ahoha 2013, we are living here in cathar contry between rennes le chateaux and motsegur
(for the link "fondation inter.... try this link....)
http://www.fountain-international.org/origins/cathar.htm
it made me feel realy good reading those lines you pasted
as more and more of us wake up from the deep sleep..
thank you
i see you are following the dreemspell (the fantastic work of josé argüelles)
i personaly realy enjoy his interpritations of the kins and aspects of creation...and all the work done on the Tzolkin...
have you explored the works of carl johan calleman on the subject of theTUN calendar
(his book : The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness , with an introduction from José, ISBN: 159143028-3, bear and C°)
you can see a good introduction to the TUN here (by ian) :
part1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&q=ian+xel+lungold+north
part2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232&q=ian+xel+lungold+north
more info on there site:
http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html
as many already know there is a difference in these two interpritations
josé has an end date of 21/12/2012 and carl of 28/10/2011 , (i personaly follow the time line interpritation of carl using the interpritations of josé) so what is 420 days difference over a 16.4 billion years of creation...?..!
to folow one hart is the most inportant... any student would find it benificial to explore both of these interpritations....
'A'ohe pau ka 'ike i ka halau ho'okahi (All knolage is not taught in the same school)


as the collective memory returns
love to all that is
@+ mark

et pour ce qui parle française

A tous les êtres de la terre et de l’univers,
visibles et invisibles ; humains et non humains,
grands et petits :
Puissions nous être en paix
Puissions nous être en harmonie
Puissions nous être libérés.

@+ mark le veloman
>>> ,__o
>>_-\_<,
> (*)/'(*)

lookfar
10-02-2007, 01:00 PM
[QUOTE=markhowie;5682]Aloha lookfar
i would sugest commencing with a book called :
Mastering your hidden self (serg kahili king)
Quest Books ISBN 13:978-0-8356-0591-5
and ISBN 10 : 0-8356-0591-4 (11.95 dollas)
or here with a plastic card : http://www.huna.net/HBM/Books/myhs.html

i am not trying to sell nothing
you dont have to buy a book if you aint got no money
theres lots of free stuff on the the link :
http://www.huna.org/html/teaching.html
The Seven Principles, the Three Selves, and the Four Levels of Reality is a realy good start

Aloha Mark

Thank you for the book recommendation, I will add it to my Amazon wish-list (which is growing by the day!)

I have also read quite a few bits from the Huna website and have saved it as a favourite. This is all good stuff (especially the DMT), got lots to learn and I'm grateful for the links - thanks:)

markhowie
10-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Aloha 2013 and all
have you seen the video on the fontain international site....
http://www.fountain-international.org/film.htm
click the play Fontain film link
(you need copie of real player)
That is a shamanique thing to do
you use all the 7 principals ....
now if you ballance/haronise the three selves (trinity)
the more power (mana) can be focused...
you do not have to be an advanced anything
all you need is a clear intention that comes strait from the hart
it is a butifull day here i will ride my bike
love to all
and thank you


it is all interesting to understand in what mess we have
allowed owerselfs to be manipulated it to
it is even very important
it is also for me, important to let go of this and not to focalise my energy to long on this....
for to give it power is a choise.....

@+ mark

bless the present
trust yourself
expect the best

2013
10-02-2007, 07:46 PM
Thanks for the links i will check them out .I have an english friend living by renne le chateau region paula with dog called slinky she is an excellent artist .She lives on a small piece of land there.If ever you see her say hello , its a small world and synchronicity makes it smaller all the time!
The mayans said the world ended in 1987 and the new one wil begin in 2012 we are in the apocalypse now which means the revealing .This si the time that we are revealed to ourselves perhaps before we can move forward to the next stage .:D

whitelightrabbit
10-02-2007, 08:12 PM
thanks for posting markhowie, i like where you are going, and am looking forward to hearing more. i think icke is right about the bulk of his research as well. do you think he's gotten side tracked a bit recently?

incidentaly, there is a shop in vancouver called the 'urban shaman' they sell all sorts of medicines.

www.urbanshaman.net

multiverse
10-02-2007, 08:34 PM
Hi Mark,

This forum is really very interesting, and I have already learned a lot by reading all the posts. It is fun to see some French, so I am going to take advantage of this and post some French myself.

Salut l’ami,

Merci de partager toutes ces informations, le site Hula est passionnant. Fountain est une initiative extraordinaire, des pensées d’amour et de guérison à l’unisson, quel pouvoir ! C’est sympa d’avoir écrit en français sur le forum, quelle surprise. Nous vivons aux USA depuis maintenant six ans mais nous pensons rentrer en France, dans le pays Cathare justement. Et toi, connais-tu les US ? Je me permets de te tutoyer « à la mode canadienne ». Comment as-tu découvert les livres de David Icke ?

Merci pour les bénédictions.

markhowie
10-02-2007, 11:33 PM
Aloha multiverse, whitelightrabbit and all

j'ecrire en anglaise sur cette site
nous parlerons française quand tu viendrai ici au pays
(je ne suis pas française mais je me sort bien, je suis en exile depuis l'epoque de la dame de fer)

multiverse quote:
Comment as-tu découvert les livres de David Icke ?

i had alredy found a pirated copie of secrets of the matrix, i picked it up on a p2p cos of the "matrix" part of the title i have only read heal yourself heal the world and infinite love is the only truth ( i got when i was in brixton last spring)
both of witch resonated somthing in me...

whitelightrabbit quote:
i like where you are going......

so do i

imagine if you want
that it is we that dreem this socalled reality into existence
collectively
"they" know that well, so you all know the rest,
how.... (from religion to the plug in drug to all the aditives in your food and drink...)

imagine colectively consiously dreeming another reality.....
(everyone is invited.........)
ther is a great change comming...
can you feel it.....
the time of the lone wolf is comming to an end.

bless the present
trust yourself
expect the best

as the collective memory returns
love to all that is
@+ mark

i found this about two years ago (below)
i like it, i cannot say who wrote it

i like to use the word adventurer insted of warriors
(egsample: you are being confronted by somone emotionaly unstable , the shaman warrior will help you to build a solid psychique protection against the negative energy of this person, the shaman aventurer will help you to harmonise your enrgy so as to keep your ballance and even become a source of healing for the disterbed one
a shaman warrior is a bit of a lone one where as the shaman aventurer is by nature very social...)

And the warriors awoke. And the warriors remembered. And the warriors stood. And the warriors went to the dark forces and said.“The energy is sufficient.”“The ascension will proceed.” “You will let the Body go.” But the dark forces mocked them and said “no, we will not” and they sent the Four Horsemen.So the warriors turned to the people and said, “AWAKEN YOUR SOUL. This is the way.” And the people said “yes.” And the warriors saw that the way was prepared and they smiled. And they turned to the dark forces and they said. “Let the people go.” “The energy is sufficient.” “The ascension will proceed.” But the dark forces just laughed as they scoffed at the people and they said “no, we will not.” So the warriors turned to the people and said “HEAL YOUR FEAR. This is the way.” And the people smiled and said “yes.” And the warriors saw that the way was prepared and they smiled. And they turned to the dark forces and said. “Let the people go.” “The energy is sufficient.” “The ascension will proceed.” But the dark forces just grinned as they spit at the faces, and they said “no, we will not.” So the warriors turned to the people and said “TAKE THIS SWORD.” And with somber note, the people said “yes.” And the warriors saw that the way was prepared and they smiled. And they turned to the dark forces and said. “Let the people go.” “The energy is sufficient.” “The ascension will proceed.” But the dark forces just shrieked as they spewed forth vile anger and hatred, and they screamed “no.” So the warriors turned to the people and said “CLEANSE THIS EARTH. Send forth your light. This is the way.” And the people, filled with joy that the time was at hand, said “yes.” And the warriors smiled. And the people beamed. And the light spread over the land. And the land burst like flames. And the flames lit the dark. And the sword cut the darkness. And the darkness recoiled. And the warriors saw that the way was prepared and they smiled. And they opened their hands to the people. And the people turned to the dark forces and said.“Come with us now.” “The energy is sufficient. “ “The ascension will proceed.” “Come with us now.” “No old things shall stand.” And seeing that their power was gone. And seeing they had nothing to loose. The dark forces looked up. And they saw only love on the faces. And they felt only love from our hearts. And they smiled. Because they remembered. And they saw that the way was prepared. And they turned to the warriors with honor. And they said to the people with joy. “The energy is sufficient.” “The love’s in our hearts.” “The ascension will proceed.”

premasai
11-02-2007, 07:35 AM
Thi is Kris from Toronto, Canada. I would like to introduce Michale Tsarion, man who lives in Belfast, who calls himself an alternative historian who's been investigating this stuff for a couple of decades. His work goes back to Atlantis times. It is the best research I have seen in the subject and really reccomend:

http://www.taroscopes.com/

http://www.taroscopes.com/webstream/webstream_startpage.html

http://www.michaeltsarion.com/

http://originsandoracles.com/

http://psychicvampirism.com/

tonto o_reilly
11-02-2007, 07:43 AM
Hi premasai

Michael tsarion is fantastic and I also would recommend these sites.

the psychic vampirism is a really worthwhile read IMO

Cheers
tO

markhowie
11-02-2007, 03:25 PM
Aloha Kris and all
thanks for the links
i realy like this talk from michael:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2252069094929951596&q=michael+tsarion

@+ mark

bless the present
trust yourself
expect the best

unicorn
11-02-2007, 06:40 PM
Mmmm mmm, he can take me with him to hollow earth anytime!!:p

Couldn't resist... sorry! :rolleyes:

tzikin
30-10-2010, 08:16 AM
Thanks for this thread Mark,
We can hear your accent in your phonetic writing. It is nice and adds character.
It is much better than my problem of typing errors and inexcusable spelling problems.

I discovered Huna through Ho-Oponopono, which also comes from Hawaiian shamanism and uses the Huna structure of the universe.

Put Ho'Oponopono into google and I think that you will find it, including the pdf of the book. Certainly you can in Spanish.

It really is great. You heal yourself whilst you heal your world.

And it really works too, especially when mixed with other energy therapies. It is great self help, allowing us to see the problems that we are not so keen on admitting ourselves so that we can treat them, so it is great for personal development and conscious evolution.

egokiller
30-10-2010, 10:33 AM
Aloha everyone
it is mark in france (in my best english)
after fighting fachisme for many years (even in your contry in the early 80s, when we squated the common land that thatcher had given to regan to put his missiles on, where we grew wheat for ethiopia) after many years of fighting and protesting, spending time in jail and in the field ripping up gm crops.... i have come to the realisation that all of the actions and time spent had not slowed down this machien that is distroying the planet and the quality of life for every thing... So like david i started my reserch several years ago to find out who was behind all of this...Most of what david, alex and others say is very true....
My reserch has led me into history to and I would like to talk about what i think about why "they" went into the americas, africa, australia, china, india etc etc and tried to erase all traces of who we realy are.... the whitch hunt here in europe that lasted hundres of years...
WHY, WHAT do "they" not want us to find-out..?
(i needed to start with a hypothisis, so
Who are we realy, what have we come here to do, what are we capable of....??? )
"They are afraid that we discover who we realy are...!"
So i start to look to the old ways (the older the better)
pre-semarien
i found that the conciousness of any civilisation is based if not rooted in its calendar (we for example are stuck in linier time with a purly phisical calendar that hold us in a material world......
that many of the old cililisations have 360 day calendars whitch corespond to the different cycles of evolution and the acceleration of time ( for those that want ) cheque-out eg: the mayan callendars TUN, TZOLKIN and HAAB
even david talked about the TUN last august
http://www.mayanmajix.com/David_Icke_newsletter.html

I found out also that that all the different druidique and shamanique ways all talk about AKA and its root in Akashic
see:History of Akashic records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_Records
there is a base knolage that is in a shared root of knowlage shared by many peoples aroud the world.....
So i start to look for a un-distorted version of an old-way of being... whitch has led me to a Hawaiian interpritation called HUNA... it is not the only interpritation of this ancient knowlage, for me for now it is my choise...
It is a way to take back your power.... to be a co-createur...
to participate in creation conciously... find a reason to be...!
To understand and harmonise the conection of the Three Selves, and the Four Levels of Reality , (the three selfs :the consious, sub-consious and super consious) with seven principales , so simple that alot of people find it dificlt to belive...
here are them in englise and french...
IKE -The world is what you think it is
Le monde est ce que l'on pense qu'il est. ( il y a mille manières de percevoir les choses )

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
Il n'y a pas de limites. ( Ôte les cotraints. Prends la liberté de changer d’avis, de croyances)

MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
L'énergie va là où se pose l'attention. / L’attention guide le flux d’energie.
(focalise-toi sur ce que tu veux )

MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
Maintenant est l’instant de puissance. ( Sois pleinement dans le present )

ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
Aimer c'est d'être heureux avec le bien qui existe. ( Benis ce qui est. Le partage « alo », joyeux « oha », d’energie de la vie « ha », dans le présent « alo ».

MANA -All power comes from within
Tout le pouvoir vient de l'intérieur. ( Fais confiance à ta propre puissance )

PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth
L'efficacité est la mesure de la vérité. ( Crois en tes idéaux, réalise-les (réve actif ))

i will stop there for now this is getting long
for more info on the HUNA you can try :
http://www.huna.org/html/teaching.html

i am looking forward to charing many things with you all on this forum...
Ho'omoe wai kahi ke kao'o (Let's all travel together like water flowing in one direction)

@+ mark

Great thread to start...

Serg kahili kings book "Urban Shaman" had a great influence on my life, Hawian Shamanism is the best form of shamanism I ever dabbled in, could talk all day about this stuff but gotta fly right now..highly recommend it.
A very positive approach...a way of adventure rather than warrior.