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disorder2k8
15-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169607/NHS-staff-2-221-avoidable-errors-left-patients-dead-injured-pain--theyre-just-ones-Trust-chiefs-admit-to.html)

More than 4,000 patients were put at serious risk last year from 'avoidable errors' by NHS staff, figures reveal.
Shortages of doctors and nurses are being blamed for the blunders, more than half of which resulted in deaths, injuries and severe pain.
Among the mistakes were surgeons operating on the wrong person or the wrong organ, doctors making incorrect diagnoses and prescribing dangerous doses of medication.

These included a breathing tube inserted in the windpipe of a seriously ill patient becoming dislodged, which triggered a fatal heart attack at Aintree University Hospital, Merseyside.

In the same hospital, a chest drain inserted to relieve pressure on the lungs punctured the patient's heart.

Staff at East Kent Hospitals failed to spot symptoms of meningitis in a child, who later died.

The latest figures detailing Serious Untoward Incidents (SUIs) were released following Freedom of Information requests sent to 172 NHS acute trusts.

Of the 97 that responded, most refused to give details and instead listed fatal errors as 'unexplained deaths'.

But 2,221 of the 4,000 recorded SUIs were classified as causing severe harm or death.

It is thought almost a million patients a year are put at risk by blunders in NHS hospitals and other trusts.

But the errors could be more widespread than the official figures suggest, since there is no mandatory reporting system for errors.

Although the vast majority of safety incidents leave no lasting effect on patients, one in 100 causes severe harm or death, according to the National Patient Safety Agency.

The Health Service bill for compensation rose to £264million last year, with another £134million in costs.

Katherine Murphy, director of the Patients' Association, said: 'These are all avoidable accidents. Patient safety must be paramount in every hospital. Saving money must not be put before patients' lives.'

Dr Peter Carter, general secretary of the Royal College of Nursing, said staff shortages led to more errors.

'It is always deeply concerning to learn of any mistakes which have endangered the life of a patient,' he said. 'But the fewer staff there are, the more mistakes are made.'

The independent watchdog, the Healthcare Commission, earlier this year said the NHS was only just out of the 'starting blocks' when it came to ensuring patient safety.

It also said there was a 'black hole' in the information available about mistakes made in GP surgeries.

The body, which was replaced this month by the Care Quality Commission, criticised poor reporting rates by some hospitals.

A new surgical checklist, which aims to cut down on mistakes such as patients having the wrong limb amputated, is being implemented in hospitals in England and Wales by February next year.

Health Secretary Alan Johnson said yesterday: 'There will always be errors, as there are in every health service in the world. Previously that was a closed book. No one wanted to talk about it.

'Unless you made these figures transparent and people know what's happening and where it's happening, and you're able to measure it, you won't be able to improve the situation and reduce the number of errors.'

quester123
16-04-2009, 01:02 AM
Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169607/NHS-staff-2-221-avoidable-errors-left-patients-dead-injured-pain--theyre-just-ones-Trust-chiefs-admit-to.html)

More than 4,000 patients were put at serious risk last year from 'avoidable errors' by NHS staff, figures reveal.
Shortages of doctors and nurses are being blamed for the blunders, more than half of which resulted in deaths, injuries and severe pain.
Among the mistakes were surgeons operating on the wrong person or the wrong organ, doctors making incorrect diagnoses and prescribing dangerous doses of medication.

These included a breathing tube inserted in the windpipe of a seriously ill patient becoming dislodged, which triggered a fatal heart attack at Aintree University Hospital, Merseyside.

In the same hospital, a chest drain inserted to relieve pressure on the lungs punctured the patient's heart.

Staff at East Kent Hospitals failed to spot symptoms of meningitis in a child, who later died.

The latest figures detailing Serious Untoward Incidents (SUIs) were released following Freedom of Information requests sent to 172 NHS acute trusts.

Of the 97 that responded, most refused to give details and instead listed fatal errors as 'unexplained deaths'.

But 2,221 of the 4,000 recorded SUIs were classified as causing severe harm or death.

It is thought almost a million patients a year are put at risk by blunders in NHS hospitals and other trusts.

But the errors could be more widespread than the official figures suggest, since there is no mandatory reporting system for errors.

Although the vast majority of safety incidents leave no lasting effect on patients, one in 100 causes severe harm or death, according to the National Patient Safety Agency.

The Health Service bill for compensation rose to £264million last year, with another £134million in costs.

Katherine Murphy, director of the Patients' Association, said: 'These are all avoidable accidents. Patient safety must be paramount in every hospital. Saving money must not be put before patients' lives.'

Dr Peter Carter, general secretary of the Royal College of Nursing, said staff shortages led to more errors.

'It is always deeply concerning to learn of any mistakes which have endangered the life of a patient,' he said. 'But the fewer staff there are, the more mistakes are made.'

The independent watchdog, the Healthcare Commission, earlier this year said the NHS was only just out of the 'starting blocks' when it came to ensuring patient safety.

It also said there was a 'black hole' in the information available about mistakes made in GP surgeries.

The body, which was replaced this month by the Care Quality Commission, criticised poor reporting rates by some hospitals.

A new surgical checklist, which aims to cut down on mistakes such as patients having the wrong limb amputated, is being implemented in hospitals in England and Wales by February next year.

Health Secretary Alan Johnson said yesterday: 'There will always be errors, as there are in every health service in the world. Previously that was a closed book. No one wanted to talk about it.

'Unless you made these figures transparent and people know what's happening and where it's happening, and you're able to measure it, you won't be able to improve the situation and reduce the number of errors.'

Alan Johnson eh?
That name brings back a few memories:
http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/johnson.htm

hey_jude
16-04-2009, 01:58 AM
I'm old enough to remember a Great National Health Service and have sadly witnessed the decline.
The deliberate destruction of our NHS has a purpose and that is to make the NEW health service that is waiting in the wings look great in comparison!

norton
16-04-2009, 10:24 AM
i really wish people would stop posting articles from the mail

shodan
16-04-2009, 10:33 AM
I'm old enough to remember a Great National Health Service and have sadly witnessed the decline.
The deliberate destruction of our NHS has a purpose and that is to make the NEW health service that is waiting in the wings look great in comparison!

Thats exactly it. for perfect clarity on what's going on in the NHS, watch this phenomenal talk

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1405535197028538552&ei=h_rmSYrZBsWN-Aaxlr22Dg&q=Brian+Gerrish+stoke&hl=en&dur=3

gremlin
16-04-2009, 10:37 AM
i really wish people would stop posting articles from the mail

why are you here if you dont want to know the truth.

The mail reports the better truth, they report more of the news than say

TH GUARDIAN:D < NOW THATS A CRAP PAPER PROPAGANDA SHITE

lottie
16-04-2009, 10:51 AM
I know that we have Common Purpose seeping in and poisoning the NHS etc etc but tbh the majority of Dr's and Nurses and healthcare professionals that work for the NHS are left to deal with a lack of resourses and more often than not a staffing level problem thus rendering their jobs very difficult to fulfill to the best of their ability resulting in what appears to be incompetance and neglect at times. Its very easy to comment on the bad but there is also a lot of good goes on too. Its just thesze stories are not highlighted in the media! Yes the hospitals are on the decline due to privatisation and cost cutting etc... but the staff are left to take the brunt of it. Having been a member of staff for the NHS formerly the actual 'workers' on the shop floor try their very best to deal with bad conditions!

norton
16-04-2009, 11:25 AM
why are you here if you dont want to know the truth.

The mail reports the better truth, they report more of the news than say

TH GUARDIAN:D < NOW THATS A CRAP PAPER PROPAGANDA SHITE

ha ha. good one:D

hey_jude
16-04-2009, 07:10 PM
I know that we have Common Purpose seeping in and poisoning the NHS etc etc but tbh the majority of Dr's and Nurses and healthcare professionals that work for the NHS are left to deal with a lack of resourses and more often than not a staffing level problem thus rendering their jobs very difficult to fulfill to the best of their ability resulting in what appears to be incompetance and neglect at times. Its very easy to comment on the bad but there is also a lot of good goes on too. Its just thesze stories are not highlighted in the media! Yes the hospitals are on the decline due to privatisation and cost cutting etc... but the staff are left to take the brunt of it. Having been a member of staff for the NHS formerly the actual 'workers' on the shop floor try their very best to deal with bad conditions!

You are correct lottie ...most health professionals are professional and care for their patients, doing an excellent job. They do the very best they can with what is available to them. I don't think that is in dispute here.

When the admin staff out-number the medical staff 3-1 what do you suppose could be the problem?
It is a management problem; they cut the medical staff and employ more admin staff which is recorded as 'staff' and of course the cheapest contract cleaners... which leads to an over-stretched, skeleton hands-on-nursing staff and dirty wards, this can equate to potentially lethal diseases from the negligence of MANAGEMENT.

Our railways were once well run and cheap, why have we in Britain been the envy of the world for years? After the European Communities Act 1972 was signed they gradually began the decline ...sound familiar?
Now what do we have ...Private Rail Companies and my daughters pay £140 a month each for no seat for most of the way into central London.
Fortunately because they're in the £25-£30k salary bracket they can afford it but many people can't and have to take lower paid jobs outside the city.
£140 a month is another bill to most people.
In short the service is poor and the cost is dear, and we now have the added benefit of the gestapo at almost every station.
This is the fate of the NHS - you will have to pay in future the FREE service is being killed off - can't you see this coming?

cleopatraxxx
17-04-2009, 01:35 AM
Originally Posted by lottie View Post
I know that we have Common Purpose seeping in and poisoning the NHS etc etc but tbh the majority of Dr's and Nurses and healthcare professionals that work for the NHS are left to deal with a lack of resourses and more often than not a staffing level problem thus rendering their jobs very difficult to fulfill to the best of their ability resulting in what appears to be incompetance and neglect at times. Its very easy to comment on the bad but there is also a lot of good goes on too. Its just thesze stories are not highlighted in the media! Yes the hospitals are on the decline due to privatisation and cost cutting etc... but the staff are left to take the brunt of it. Having been a member of staff for the NHS formerly the actual 'workers' on the shop floor try their very best to deal with bad conditions!You are correct lottie ...most health professionals are professional and care for their patients, doing an excellent job. They do the very best they can with what is available to them. I don't think that is in dispute here.

When the admin staff out-number the medical staff 3-1 what do you suppose could be the problem?
It is a management problem; they cut the medical staff and employ more admin staff which is recorded as 'staff' and of course the cheapest contract cleaners... which leads to an over-stretched, skeleton hands-on-nursing staff and dirty wards, this can equate to potentially lethal diseases from the negligence of MANAGEMENT.

Our railways were once well run and cheap, why have we in Britain been the envy of the world for years? After the European Communities Act 1972 was signed they gradually began the decline ...sound familiar?
Now what do we have ...Private Rail Companies and my daughters pay £140 a month each for no seat for most of the way into central London.
Fortunately because they're in the £25-£30k salary bracket they can afford it but many people can't and have to take lower paid jobs outside the city.
£140 a month is another bill to most people.
In short the service is poor and the cost is dear, and we now have the added benefit of the gestapo at almost every station.
This is the fate of the NHS - you will have to pay in future the FREE service is being killed off - can't you see this coming?

THIS bank holiday, a friend of mine was URGED to the NHS because she strated having a bleeding in her 16 week of pregnancy. she was told that she had urinary tract infection after the urine samle was analysed and that the possibilities of a miscarriage were now discarded also because the cervix was tight and closed after the manual procedures were performed on her. AND THAT THE SCAN (ECOGRAPHY)0 WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE PERFORMED to CONFIRM ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS A BANK HOLIDAY AND NO ONE WAS AVAILABLE UNTIL WEDNESDAY TO DO ONE. tHIS IS ALL HAPENNING ON saturday!!!!! SO , she was released home in the early hours of the morning. given some antibiotics to treat an infection. the given painkillers were CODEIIN! Codein is for moderate to mild pains and for cough relief! since when CODEIN can stop menstrual cramps???!!!

ONce back at home and Relieved that her baby was not in danger, she took the perscribed antibiotic while still in some moderate pain, but happy to be in bed and less worried. Next thing, she wakes up around middday with her pad full of blood and an hour later she started severely bleeding. for more than half an hour in panic sat in the bath bleeding all over and hoping this would stop to be able to get dressed and return to the ward as the doctor advised in case she has any increased abdominal pains and or bleeding. Sadly, this bleeding was non-stop an she had to ask for an ambulance. The ambulance took 20mins to arrive. you can imagine the woman's desperation because this was definitely not a good sign, it was painfull and above all she lost loads of blood by then.
when the ambulance arrived, the two wonderful woman who took care of her had to make the call to see where to send her, although she was still carrying on her wrist-band with the numbers on it put there the previous night, which was more than enough to identify the patient.

when they arrived at the NHS, all the process of measuring the pulse, the blood pressure and temperature was done again as the previous night and she was then directed into a room for the removal of the "product" after loads of needles were inserted into her hands and arms for the drip and blood sampling and any eventuality.

she was then analysed by this young doctor. then she was told the "product" was going to be removed manually and if well succeeded no need ofr undergoing surgery would be needed. of course when they begun, the removal induced terrible pains. the doctor tried removing the "product" completely, but the bleeding was non-stop and all this still three hours later. So the young doctor wan't successfull and the pains of cramps continued, which were unbearable ; the bleeding didn't stopped. so they took her to another level at the hospital and got the SENIOR doctor who then performed the rest of the operation and succeeded to stop the severe bleeding.

This MISCARRIAGE happened THIS WAY, because the night before DUE TO A BANK HOLIDAY THERE WAS NO PROFESSIONAL AVAILABLE TO MAKE A SCAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND DEDUCE THAT A MISCARRIAGE WAS IN PROCESS ALREADY AND NEVER they SHOULD HAVE SENT THE PATIENT HOME!
IF THE PATIENT WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT IN THE WARD, THE PAIN AND SEVERITY OF THE WHOLE MISCARRIAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN IMMEDIATELY ATTENDED AND EVERYONE WHOULD HAVE HAD LESS WORK TO DO, NOT TO MENTION THIS LADIES EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL PAINS WOULD HAVE BEEN LESSENED.

THIS IS A COMPLETE TRAGEDY.

AND EVEN IN africa WHERE I COME FROM, I KNOW FOR A FACT ON BANK HOLIDAYS, AND ANY OTHER HOLIDAYS THE HOSPITALS DO HAVE PROFESSIONAL ON ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AT ANY MOMENT FOR ANY EMERGENCY! I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

According to present statistics, every 4th pregnant woman in the UK, a DEVELOPED country, undergoes a miscarriage.
The total amount of pain that this causes to these woman, because of a F***ng agenda that some greedy depopulationist bastards have set in place, is an unbearable fact to me personally.

the NHS is a public place but governed by those who don't want us happy and procreating. the doctros i can tell had an unbelievably bad attitude in this particular case: while performing a manual removal on my friend they were actually laughing when on eof their surgical plastic instruments broke in their hands right before another insertion into the suffering from pain body of this woman. it was unbearable to watch. i could almost feel her pain...

she is now at home and CODEIN was given again as a pain killer...amongst other antibiotics to prevent any infection due to manual removals.

i will not go into detail about the proposal of signing papers in case she would allow them to perform a curgical operation on her to remove the remnants found on the scan later. this was an utter disgrace on beahlf of the NHS personel.

I am not sure if she is going to wirte to the responsible heads in NHS and sue them for their total irresponsibilties. I wil keep you informed. All I know is that the families grief due to this tragic event is immense...

macmauro
17-04-2009, 01:40 AM
Just imagine if they had donne 2,222 errors :eek: :eek:

cleopatraxxx
17-04-2009, 01:44 AM
Just imagine if they had donne 2,222 errors :eek: :eek:

ONE ERROR is PAINFUL ENOUGH,
don't you think?

ps i am not shouting, i am just outlining it ENORMOUSLY.

numerology here is not the issue...
and actually , when they tell us officially a number in the news, we KNOW IT IS WAY BEYOND that mentioned number!

can you calculate THE PAIN??????????????????????????????????

macmauro
17-04-2009, 01:48 AM
Do you work?

Do you never error?

Gosh, it's good to be perfect...

macmauro
17-04-2009, 02:00 AM
DO you need to shout at me? I was just beeing sarcastic, don't believe in numerology.

That just show me that the state has all the money when the banks need it, but none available for health, schools and so on, of course you are going to get errors, look at the millionnaires in the banks they did the "errors" and they get away, now the nurses from the NHS they are the BANDITS wright??

belial
17-04-2009, 02:03 AM
Problem... make the socialst NHS as sh!t as possible through Common Purpose training.

Reaction... everybody gets angry. The MSM publish and hammer home the negative vibes associated with it. Everybody blames the 'government'.

Solution... you name it: privatised health care profits boom, the government offers pay-per-cure health service, the government cons us into paying more tax in order to 'improve' 'services'.

Even in the USA, medical/health-care insurance is a scam as the insurers always have clauses in their contracts to scam the people that pay them.

Better to never get sick in the first place... or just kill yourself... it's a lot safer.

cleopatraxxx
17-04-2009, 02:04 AM
DO you need to shout at me? I was just beeing sarcastic, don't believe in numerology.

That just show me that the state has all the money when the banks need it, but none available for health, schools and so on, of course you are going to get errors, look at the millionnaires in the banks they did the "errors" and they get away, now the nurses from the NHS they are the BANDITS wright??

don't get it personal, it was not addressed to you. i in FACT wrote in the post, I AM NOT SHOUTING, I AM JUST OUTLINING the fact of...

i think you are not an english person, are you?
i have been through the same, no worries.

Cleo
PEACE :)

cleopatraxxx
17-04-2009, 02:07 AM
Problem... make the socialst NHS as sh!t as possible through Common Purpose training.

Reaction... everybody gets angry. The MSM publish and hammer home the negative vibes associated with it. Everybody blames the 'government'.

Solution... you name it: privatised health care profits boom, the government offers pay-per-cure health service, the government cons us into paying more tax in order to 'improve' 'services'.

Even in the USA, medical/health-care insurance is a scam as the insurers always have clauses in their contracts to scam the people that pay them.

Better to never get sick in the first place... or just kill yourself... it's a lot safer.

you know what??? i absolutely agree with your pattern of thought!
i agree that they are making NHS look horrible by not giving them enough good, well trained doctors and etc.... so that people opt for private which is another way of making profits,,, it is all a totoal scam. i totally agree there with you and that is MADNESS when one realises what goes on!

macmauro
17-04-2009, 02:15 AM
No i'm not English, i'm Portuguese but here in the UK as everywhere in the world is very easy to atribute the "errors" to the working staff, when those "errors" just come from the underfounding of our public services!!!

From several years (Thanks Mrs Tachter and Mr Reagan) we have been indoctrinated that there was no money for the public service, but sudenly billions, trillions appeared for the allready fatty bankers, where is our share???

The NHS doesn't do "errors"(and i'm refering to ALL europe) they are just under funded, shout at the masters of the universe ,not at me, i'm the good guy here...

hey_jude
17-04-2009, 02:28 AM
THIS bank holiday, a friend of mine was URGED to the NHS because she strated having a bleeding in her 16 week of pregnancy. she was told that she had urinary tract infection after the urine samle was analysed and that the possibilities of a miscarriage were now discarded also because the cervix was tight and closed after the manual procedures were performed on her. AND THAT THE SCAN (ECOGRAPHY)0 WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE PERFORMED to CONFIRM ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS A BANK HOLIDAY AND NO ONE WAS AVAILABLE UNTIL WEDNESDAY TO DO ONE. tHIS IS ALL HAPENNING ON saturday!!!!! SO , she was released home in the early hours of the morning. given some antibiotics to treat an infection. the given painkillers were CODEIIN! Codein is for moderate to mild pains and for cough relief! since when CODEIN can stop menstrual cramps???!!!

ONce back at home and Relieved that her baby was not in danger, she took the perscribed antibiotic while still in some moderate pain, but happy to be in bed and less worried. Next thing, she wakes up around middday with her pad full of blood and an hour later she started severely bleeding. for more than half an hour in panic sat in the bath bleeding all over and hoping this would stop to be able to get dressed and return to the ward as the doctor advised in case she has any increased abdominal pains and or bleeding. Sadly, this bleeding was non-stop an she had to ask for an ambulance. The ambulance took 20mins to arrive. you can imagine the woman's desperation because this was definitely not a good sign, it was painfull and above all she lost loads of blood by then.
when the ambulance arrived, the two wonderful woman who took care of her had to make the call to see where to send her, although she was still carrying on her wrist-band with the numbers on it put there the previous night, which was more than enough to identify the patient.

when they arrived at the NHS, all the process of measuring the pulse, the blood pressure and temperature was done again as the previous night and she was then directed into a room for the removal of the "product" after loads of needles were inserted into her hands and arms for the drip and blood sampling and any eventuality.

she was then analysed by this young doctor. then she was told the "product" was going to be removed manually and if well succeeded no need ofr undergoing surgery would be needed. of course when they begun, the removal induced terrible pains. the doctor tried removing the "product" completely, but the bleeding was non-stop and all this still three hours later. So the young doctor wan't successfull and the pains of cramps continued, which were unbearable ; the bleeding didn't stopped. so they took her to another level at the hospital and got the SENIOR doctor who then performed the rest of the operation and succeeded to stop the severe bleeding.

This MISCARRIAGE happened THIS WAY, because the night before DUE TO A BANK HOLIDAY THERE WAS NO PROFESSIONAL AVAILABLE TO MAKE A SCAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND DEDUCE THAT A MISCARRIAGE WAS IN PROCESS ALREADY AND NEVER they SHOULD HAVE SENT THE PATIENT HOME!
IF THE PATIENT WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT IN THE WARD, THE PAIN AND SEVERITY OF THE WHOLE MISCARRIAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN IMMEDIATELY ATTENDED AND EVERYONE WHOULD HAVE HAD LESS WORK TO DO, NOT TO MENTION THIS LADIES EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL PAINS WOULD HAVE BEEN LESSENED.

THIS IS A COMPLETE TRAGEDY.

AND EVEN IN africa WHERE I COME FROM, I KNOW FOR A FACT ON BANK HOLIDAYS, AND ANY OTHER HOLIDAYS THE HOSPITALS DO HAVE PROFESSIONAL ON ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AT ANY MOMENT FOR ANY EMERGENCY! I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

According to present statistics, every 4th pregnant woman in the UK, a DEVELOPED country, undergoes a miscarriage.
The total amount of pain that this causes to these woman, because of a F***ng agenda that some greedy depopulationist bastards have set in place, is an unbearable fact to me personally.

the NHS is a public place but governed by those who don't want us happy and procreating. the doctros i can tell had an unbelievably bad attitude in this particular case: while performing a manual removal on my friend they were actually laughing when on eof their surgical plastic instruments broke in their hands right before another insertion into the suffering from pain body of this woman. it was unbearable to watch. i could almost feel her pain...

she is now at home and CODEIN was given again as a pain killer...amongst other antibiotics to prevent any infection due to manual removals.

i will not go into detail about the proposal of signing papers in case she would allow them to perform a curgical operation on her to remove the remnants found on the scan later. this was an utter disgrace on beahlf of the NHS personel.

I am not sure if she is going to wirte to the responsible heads in NHS and sue them for their total irresponsibilties. I wil keep you informed. All I know is that the families grief due to this tragic event is immense...

Cleopatraxxx
The treatment your friend received was abhorrent and totally unacceptable! I have respect and admiration for your friend in her injury at the hands of the NHS ...they treated her appallingly and should definately be held accountable!
The scene you describe is exactly what I and many others are becoming aware of, and happening more and more frequently and the people ultimately responsible are the people at the top of the tree. The staff you and your friend encounted are responsible too, in that they should never have sent her home and that is negligent, in my opinion the Doctors who performed what sounds like a Medievil Butchery should lose their jobs!!! NO ONE SHOULD EVER BE TREATED THAT WAY - NEVER!

YES, She should complain to the NHS Hospital involved, citing the Doctors by name, the staff by name who sent her home - the local Primary Care Trust - The Department of Health - The Ambulance Service - Her MP - without a doubt SUE.

gilly
17-04-2009, 06:37 AM
From my own observations, and having a friend & neighbour who is a nurse, I agree entirely with those here who identify CP as the cause of the NHS problems.

The medical staff seem to be working themselves into the ground, while vastly outnumbered by an excess of administrative staff, as organised by the CP graduate management structure.

There are also many dubious policies introduced by the management.

It is a set up that's designed to bring down the NHS from within.

bones
17-04-2009, 08:57 AM
I know that we have Common Purpose seeping in and poisoning the NHS etc etc but tbh the majority of Dr's and Nurses and healthcare professionals that work for the NHS are left to deal with a lack of resourses and more often than not a staffing level problem thus rendering their jobs very difficult to fulfill to the best of their ability resulting in what appears to be incompetance and neglect at times. Its very easy to comment on the bad but there is also a lot of good goes on too. Its just thesze stories are not highlighted in the media! Yes the hospitals are on the decline due to privatisation and cost cutting etc... but the staff are left to take the brunt of it. Having been a member of staff for the NHS formerly the actual 'workers' on the shop floor try their very best to deal with bad conditions!


my mum is a nurse at grimsby hospital and she says to me that they have many elderly on the ward which are just dieing, and the docs just want to give em xrays and ct scans at a cost of thousends, she can see sumthing is wrong in the nhs but dosnt know what its about, so i told her common purpose!

they have just upped the car park charges also !!

gilly
17-04-2009, 09:00 AM
my mum is a nurse at grimsby hospital and she says to me that they have many elderly on the ward which are just dieing, and the docs just want to give em xrays and ct scans at a cost of thousends, she can see sumthing is wrong in the nhs but dosnt know what its about, so i told her common purpose!

they have just upped the car park charges also !!

Bless your mum Bones, and all the others trying to work in that horrible predicament!

cleopatraxxx
17-04-2009, 12:41 PM
my mum is a nurse at grimsby hospital and she says to me that they have many elderly on the ward which are just dieing, and the docs just want to give em xrays and ct scans at a cost of thousends, she can see sumthing is wrong in the nhs but dosnt know what its about, so i told her common purpose!

they have just upped the car park charges also !!

f**ing DISGRACE!

This has to stop, this is madness, this is genocide, silent one... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: