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deca
21-01-2010, 01:30 PM
so i am watching say ITV ....i start thinking of a subject for instance (birthday cakes) i turn over a channel sometimes the wrong one by mistake and there talking about Birthday cakes...Deca this means they have full control.

The media is controled ......plus they abuse how our minds work as well .....fliping us possible in to a right brain of thinking...looking for shapes/paterns to flip us to left brain to "logic" narate a reason why we spoted them .....
must of been there to "wind me up"

plus unfortunaly they know what we are think before we do, plus can stimulate/push thought ect...

bealert
21-01-2010, 01:39 PM
clever little sods aint they lol

bealert
21-01-2010, 02:24 PM
Deca this thread gets so many many views ever wondered why..lucky everything i write on here is bullshit lol

deca
23-01-2010, 11:17 PM
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3069883/

US Sec of Navy admits they oversee mind control research
Here below is a link to a document, made available on the web by the Federation of American Scientists, in which the Secretary of the U.S. Navy admits in writing that the Navy is the authority giving approval for research in "severe and unusual intrusions" on human subjects, such as mind control work.

Mind control is an important weapon in the 21st century. Mind control includes electromagnetic devices which can affect the brain and physical functioning, some pharmaceuticals, some behaviour modification "conditioning" and "chaining", and regular hypnotic techniques. Some of these may be used in conjunction with others.

Research into mind control has a valid defense purpose, of course.

For example, the worst excesses of World War 2 could all have been achieved from behind the scenes by mind controllers. It is worth noting that mind controllers get used to enjoying complete concealment, and therefore never do the dirty work themselves.

Highly intelligent people, and highly telepathic people, were early found to be easier to mind-control (in the 1940s this would have included Jews and gypsies, for example). These days, with electromagnetic and pharmaceutical tools, almost anybody can be susceptible.

It is an indictment of current governments that young people are still not warned of this danger, therefore are naive and susceptible, and cannot protect themselves through knowledge from mind control situations.

We will know we have honest governments when schools routinely teach young people, "You can be controlled against your will - watch for these danger signs and be careful."

Crimes are quite often performed by a person who is mind controlled and does not know he is committing the crime. Afterwards he might be instructed to forget and the amnesia might last many years. Other crimes are often covered up using mind-control in officials.

Physical assaults can be committed by knowing people using mind control directly, too. As an example, perhaps a victim is in the middle of conversation when he is suddenly plunged into a trance state, then something is injected into his body. When he is brought back to conscious functioning he is unaware he has been attacked. He may be conscious only of experiencing a little difficulty in speech or concentration for a few seconds.

Here following is the evidence that military research is overseen in the USA by the Navy, in case people have not seen it:

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/navy/secnavinst/3900_39d.pdf

SECNAVINST 3900.39D
6 November 2006

Page 9:

(2) The Under Secretary of the Navy (UNSECNAV) is the Approval Authority for research involving:

(a) Severe or unusual intrusions, either physical or psychological, on human subjects (such as consciousness-altering drugs or mind-control techniques).



just as well most of what I post is backed up with personal/3rd party experience/research/documents/evidence :D

bealert
23-01-2010, 11:45 PM
so Targeted individuals are lab rats? it says a person must agree to the mind control...come on surely human emotions are best tested without knowledge that its EH/ mind control how else can you get a true response. Somehow i don't think this as any reference to T I's but at least its proof it goes on. Aint it funny how my last post seems to be the last post for ages wherever i post on this forum...no doubt someone will post and prove me wrong.

bealert
24-01-2010, 01:38 AM
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3069883/



just as well most of what I post is backed up with personal/3rd party experience/research/documents/evidence :D
you say you have evidence..of what exactly? the evidence is in your mind!. sorry deca but after your ranting and ravings on this forum around Christmas i doubt you will ever be taken seriously ...especially if that evidence is shown to someone your trying to prove it to. no disrespect but you lost it and to a person viewing these forums your post seriously undermined any evidence you may have. I am not saying i don't blame you but you must control your outbursts if its respect your looking for.
my system is better and takes a lot less effort..ignore it...laugh at them...its this way that takes real strength real discipline...you showed weakness ..which was not good for any reason.
My comments are not meant to insult you but i think if you really think about it ..you know i am right

deca
24-01-2010, 01:45 AM
you say you have evidence..of what exactly? the evidence is in your mind!.

I have posted video of EMF readings ,body voltage readings and bone conduction recordings.....ok I don`t spend all day "spoting" people picking there nose

I sort of understand mind control & electronic harrassment and also altered states

deca
24-01-2010, 01:55 AM
bealert what do you think you experences or percieve when they are doing this to you Mind control includes electromagnetic devices which can affect the brain and physical functioning, some pharmaceuticals, some behaviour modification "conditioning" and "chaining", and regular hypnotic techniques. Some of these may be used in conjunction with others.

you belief all kinds of stuiped shit ....i,e like being drugged but because its electronic induces they can turn it on/off with out the normal chemical reactions or symptoms and very quickly

because I messed around with "recreational" mind altering drugs 20 odd years ago for a sort while...I don`t freak out when they induce there eletronic versions ....i,e I don`t make statements making out i believe half the town following my about.....I belief they flip me into a surreal hyper vigilante paranoid alter state when I am walking about.....something smiliar to when you get parnoid smoking too much pot and believe everyones stairing at you eyes and know you been smoking and you get a majour parra if you spot a police car or helichopter

bealert
24-01-2010, 01:59 AM
I have posted video of EMF readings ,body voltage readings and bone conduction recordings.....ok I don`t spend all day "spoting" people picking there nose

I sort of understand mind control & electronic harrassment and also altered states
I knew you were there all the time..you just needed the right post to bring you out..lol

I think your in the early stages of Gang stalking ..just getting the Eh for now no doubt the real gang stalking will start when they think your ready..ive read it can take up to 20 years or so to get to this stage. Strength is not showing weakness... not encouraging its exposure.

Be back on-line tomorrow
Night night.

deca
24-01-2010, 02:15 AM
bealert when will you realise that its you thats the target ...i.e you are geting hit with mind altering ,emotion manipulation and your sense geting messed with.....is it anywounder you are percieving all kinds of wierd experiences all day as you walk about ect.....stop trying to pysical explian things with some pysical object or person for these experences ....understand what this technology does to you and how it effects you before you make assumptions on the world around you.

its like being spiked with ACID and walking about and beliving everything you percieve has actully happen and the drug has no effect on you.

this tech hides in the background and slowly buggers you up on the ground subverting you into conflict with the people around you....after a while you quit your job,fall out with your family friends probadly have some mental health label stuck on you .....it does not need to hide after that...people around you will think you a nutter and talk gobbly gook ...

bealert
24-01-2010, 02:27 AM
you have only been a victim for 5 years that's nothing deca ..come back in 20 years and ill listen to you...no disrespect but you lost it over Christmas as i already said and i you were believe near to breakdown..something i have never done. Cointelpro exists have you read about it? you are only in the early stages of gang stalking as i said come back in twenty years and i will listen to you...until then your illusions that you have evidence i would suggest are part of the mind control because theres always a excuse for everything they do and in a court of law you will be laughed at all the way to the mental hospital.
Anyway im going to bed now ..even i need beauty sleep...yep i know its hard to believe but its true.

deca
24-01-2010, 02:38 AM
The impression i get after visiting many sites on EH/Gang stalking is that it's done by Devil worshippers. The same tactics are uses as the Devil himself would use.
Those are temptation.. lies.. manipulation but at no time actually forcing the victim to do anything illegal. Everything is taken from the victim including family and all possessions until the victim is destroyed. What sort of world are we creating? where fear and torture are used to destroy a victim because some sick person as a grudge against someone else...don't play there games don't allow yourself to become a pawn of the Devil rise above this sick game and become a respectable human being.. you could be next.



look I want to talk about the technology ....clearly you want to talk about gangstalking....start your own thread I am sick of you trying drag me into talking about gangstalking ....If you can`t understand that you should be more concerned about the technology that is effecting your mental state and giving you pain ect then I can`t help you....you can defend yourself agaist gangstalking ....noise headphones/ear plugs....protect your property , carry a video/spy cam and a attack alarm ect......these mind wepeons are harder to defend agaist and attack you in your bed in your home

deca
24-01-2010, 02:47 AM
you have only been a victim for 5 years that's nothing deca ..come back in 20 years and ill listen to you...no disrespect but you lost it over Christmas as i already said and i you were believe near to breakdown..something i have never done. Cointelpro exists have you read about it? you are only in the early stages of gang stalking as i said come back in twenty years and i will listen to you...until then your illusions that you have evidence i would suggest are part of the mind control because theres always a excuse for everything they do and in a court of law you will be laughed at all the way to the mental hospital.
Anyway im going to bed now ..even i need beauty sleep...yep i know its hard to believe but its true.

yes because you don`t get the technology based harrassment to the level as I do ....I,e because I am on the right track exposing the information

plus the gangstalkin does not work on me...the technology is worse....i.e fucks with your mind and remotly abuse your body plus induce hart attacks plus a lot more...i,e why i don`t care about gangstalking

gangstalking is more psylogical and petty crimes....if they did more they would leave pysicical evidence or would be seen by others and you would have wittness...a lot of what they do is visable and easyly spoted ...(its suposed to do) but does not directly effect you only psylogicaly..because its so visable TI`s genaruly blame it instead of the technology which they feel/hear the effect but can`t see

bealert
24-01-2010, 11:47 AM
Gang stalking is not a petty crime it is a assault on someone's human rights both are just as bad a each other. you will never beat Eh because it is done remotely..it could be anyone. you are wasting your time...even if you can prove someone is getting Eh you cant prove who is doing it.
you are gang stalked your just in the early stages so the sooner you realise that the sooner you will come to terms with your EH and see the bigger picture.
you say you can beat it yet you have not up till now and i bet in a years time you will still be saying you can beat it...there were several people on the mcvictims forum that said they were near beating it like chicken and nn both are frauds both members of harassment gangs in my opinion.

deca
24-01-2010, 07:44 PM
Gang stalking is not a petty crime it is a assault on someone's human rights both are just as bad a each other. you will never beat Eh because it is done remotely..it could be anyone. you are wasting your time...even if you can prove someone is getting Eh you cant prove who is doing it.
you are gang stalked your just in the early stages so the sooner you realise that the sooner you will come to terms with your EH and see the bigger picture.
you say you can beat it yet you have not up till now and i bet in a years time you will still be saying you can beat it...there were several people on the mcvictims forum that said they were near beating it like chicken and nn both are frauds both members of harassment gangs in my opinion.


look at what I said an in the context of it.

gangstalking is more psylogical and petty crimes....if they did more they would leave pysicical evidence i.e gangstakers would do petty crimes not majour ones as it would leave evidence and people would investigate.....also TI`s don`t get murdered/raped/molested by gangstalkers do they..in a psyical sense ......but the tech does this ok

deca
24-01-2010, 07:52 PM
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/01/20/23839.htm

Vets' Claims Over CIA Experiments Survive
By JAMIE ROSS
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(CN) - A federal judge in San Francisco has given the green light to an action by Vietnam vets saying the CIA prevented roughly 7,000 human subjects from getting medical care after they were subjected to experiments on mind control, implantation of electronics and the effects of exotic drugs.
U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken allowed a challenge to the consent forms signed by individual plaintiffs involved in the experiments, to the extent that they required an oath of secrecy.
At the same time, she dismissed the challenge to the legality of the CIA's human testing program of the 1950s and '60s
But the plaintiffs, Vietnam Veterans of America, may seek a declaration concerning the lawfulness of consent forms provided to the individual plaintiffs, since the extent of their potential injuries was not fully disclosed and the forms required them to take a secrecy oath.
Plaintiffs, who also include the group Swords to Plowshares, allege that the oaths cause ongoing harm because they prohibit individuals from seeking treatment and counseling for the harm caused by the experiments.
The court also denied the CIA's motion for judgment that the plaintiffs' claims are time-barred and that the court lacks jurisdiction because the plaintiffs' medical care "has been wrongfully withheld," causing them injury due to the agency's failure to act.
The CIA and the U.S. Army experimented on human subjects in the 1950s. The experiments included exposing subjects to "various chemicals, drugs and/or the implantation of electronic devices" and "developing mind-control methods."
About 7,800 armed services volunteers participated, but were not fully informed of the potential risks of the procedures.
In dismissing that plaintiff's legal challenge to the overall program, Judge Wilken ruled that the plaintiff Vietnam Veterans of America lacked standing to seek "a declaration on the lawfulness of the testing and the associated consent forms" because such relief would not fix their alleged injuries and the individual plaintiffs are no longer members of the armed forces and will not be subjected to experiments by the CIA in the future.
Individual plaintiffs include Bruce Price, Franklin D. Rochelle, Larry Meirow, Eric P. Muth, David C. Dufrane, and Wray C. Forrest.

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfnov09/nov09files/GAO%20Human%20Experimentation%201994.pdf#search=%2 7human%20experimentation%27
[QUOTE]United States General Accounting Office
Testimony
Before the Legislation and National Security Subcommittee,
Committee on Government Operations, House of
Representatives
For Release on Delivery
Expected at
l&O0 a.m. EST
Wednesday
September2 8.1994
Human Experimentation
An Overview on Co1d.Wa.r
Era Programs
Statement of Frank C. Conahan, Assistant Comptroller General,
National Security and International Affairs Division

BACKGROUND
As you requested, we focused our work on defense-affiliated
programs that used human test subjects between 1940 and 1974.
The programs included tests and experiments conducted or sponsored
by the Departments of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force; the
Defense Nuclear Agency; the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA); the
Department of Energy; and the Department of Health and Human
Services. The tests and experiments involved radiological,
chemical, and biological research and were conducted to support
weapon development programs, identify methods to protect the health
of military personnel against a variety of diseases and combat
conditions, and analyze U.S. defense vulnerabilities.
RESULTS IN BRIEF
During World War II and the Cold War era, DOD and other national
security agencies conducted or sponsored extensive radiological,
chemical, and biological research programs. Precise information on
the number of tests, experiments, and participants is not
available, and the exact numbers may never be known. However, we
have identified hundreds of radiological, chemical, and biological
tests and experiments in which hundreds of thousands of people were
used as test subjects. These tests and experiments often involved
hazardous substances such as radiation, blister and nerve agents,
biological agents, and lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD). In some
cases, basic safeguards to protect people were either not in place
or not followed. For example, some tests and experiments were
conducted in secret; others involved the use of people without
their knowledge or consent or their full knowledge of the risks
involved.
The effects of the tests and experiments are often difficult to
determine. Although some participants suffered immediate acute
injuries, and some died, in other cases adverse health problems
were not discovered until many years later--often 20 to 30 years or
longer.


conducted a series of experiments called MKULTRA to test
vulnerabilities to behavior modification drugs. As a part of these
experiments, LSD and other psychochemical drugs were administered
to an undetermined number of people without their knowledge or
consent. According to the official, the names of those involved in
the tests are not available because names were not recorded or the
records were subsequently destroyed. However, some tests were done
under contract, and no effort has been made by the CIA to determine
if names are available in contractors' records.

THE GOVERNMENT HAS SPONSORED EXTENSIVE TESTING, BUT PRECISE
INFORMATION ON TESTS AND PARTICIPANTS IS NOT AVAILABLE
Precise information on the scope and magnitude of government tests
and experiments involving human subjects is not available, and
exact numbers may never be known. However, our review of available
documentation and interviews with agency officials identified
hundreds of tests and experiments in which hundreds of thousands of
people were used as subjects. Some of these tests and experiments
involved the intentional exposure of people to hazardous substances
such as radiation, blister and nerve agents, biological agents,
LSD, and phencyclidine (PCP). These tests and experiments were
conducted to support weapon development programs, identify methods
to protect the health of military personnel against a variety of
diseases and combat conditions, and analyze U.S. defense
vulnerabilities. Healthy adults, children, psychiatric patients,
and prison inmates were used in these tests and experiments.
Documenting the precise number of tests and participants is
difficult because government information is incomplete. Some
records have been lost or destroyed, and existing documentation
contains limited information and often does not identify names of
participants. Moreover, these records are spread throughout the
country at the National Archives, Federal Record Centers, other
government offices, and the military commands or organizational
units that created them. Some of the records measure thousands of
linear feet, and the availability and quality of indexes to the
records vary widely.
I will describe a few of the radiological, chemical, and biological
research projects that illustrate the scope and magnitude of
governmental experimentation.


you have to be a complete idiot or total fall for all the misdirection and tricks they play....

Who does human experiments? who would have the capability to do this? who would get away with it? who has done simliar/history of in the past ?......militray complex/goverment agency not devil worshipers with pocket zappers with nothing better do than to make your life a misery

bealert
24-01-2010, 08:20 PM
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/01/20/23839.htm



[QUOTE]http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfnov09/nov09files/GAO%20Human%20Experimentation%201994.pdf#search=%2 7human%20experimentation%27









you have to be a complete idiot or total fall for all the misdirection and tricks they play....

me



Who does human experiments? who would have the capability to do this? who would get away with it? who has done simliar/history of in the past ?......militray complex/goverment agency not devil worshipers with pocket zappers with nothing better do than to make your life a misery.
but you fall for them every time that's why you got so upset over Christmas. if i am wrong tell me



Read About
Michael Aquino and Anton lavey



Michael A. Aquino, U.S. Army officer and founder of the Temple of Set (http://www.answers.com/topic/temple-of-set), is a graduate of the University of California, Santa Barbara (B.A., 1968; Ph.D., 1980). In 1968 he joined the army as a specialist in psychological warfare. The next year he joined the Church of Satan (http://www.answers.com/topic/church-of-satan). His career in the church was put on hold while he served a tour of duty in Vietnam, but shortly after his return to the United States in 1971, he was ordained as a Satanic priest and organized a group (termed a grotto (http://www.answers.com/topic/grotto)) that met at his home. Although it does not state it in this passage he was linked with mk ultra and gang stalking

bealert
24-01-2010, 08:48 PM
watch Mars-boys video on the monarch project on google or you tube. It will tell you you the roots of mkultra and its connections with Anton lavey.
Devil worshippers no longer run around with horns on there head deca ...in fact if the devil was true what a way of manipulating the world.. Mind control would be...just a thought of course.

God this thread is popular ..we must make a very interesting read for some..lol

deca
24-01-2010, 08:57 PM
look keep it simple expose the "technology" that way we can prove we are victims.....we don`t have to go and explian the ideology of the idiots using this tech .....their own documents admit the carry out mind control human experiments ,test militray weopens tests on thier on people ....Thier own docs says microwave hearing effect is based on RADAR.....

I have watched Mars-boys videos and talked to him via youtube , and hes used some of mine own footage ok.....hes subscribed to my channel and me his

bealert
24-01-2010, 09:08 PM
Then you know what i am saying is the truth about mkultra . you never want to discuss anything other than exposing Eh yet you are victim of Gang stalking as well but it as not developed in to full blown attacks yet. Eh is not provable at least its not provable who is doing it so why bother why let it get to you? its the gang stalking that will do the real damage ..don't you think.

Yes the documents were interesting although documents can be faked.


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deca
24-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Then you know what i am saying is the truth about mkultra . you never want to discuss anything other than exposing Eh yet you are victim of Gang stalking as well but it as not developed in to full blown attacks yet. Eh is not provable at least its not provable who is doing it so why bother why let it get to you? its the gang stalking that will do the real damage ..don't you think


They have tried to make me believe I was gangstalked also the local people were involved etc.........Ok

look follow the technology and sciences not the parnoid ramblings on gangstalking sites

look think about it we are targeted by microwave weopons whats the symptoms of this
http://www.hauntednjshores.com/Haunted_NJ_Shores/What_IS_EMF.html
When exposed to extremely high levels of EMF for extended periods of time, many people report feelings of "being watched", sensing a "presence" near them, feeling their "skin crawl", feeling sick, experiencing headaches or feeling like their head is "buzzing", restlessness and insomnia. This can lead people to mistakenly believe there is a ghost present, when in fact it is an electrical problem.

Paranormal Investigators carry a variety of EMF meters to determine if the "creepy presence" you are experiencing might be the result of an unusually high EMF leak. We will sweep over the locatin with an EMF meter and take readings from all points in each room. In the majority of paranormal cases, we’ve found that unhealthy levels of EMF in homes and businesses are resulting in false hauntings.

but what do ganstalking sites tell you when you feel this ? do they explain the effects of EMF ? no they don`t they tell you the streets a full of agents,snitches and perps

so basicly all they do is zap you with EMF when you are in a social setting ...if you feel you are being watched or uneasy,sick you will look around for a reason......the reason TI`s that have read gangstalking sites will belief there a perps ect.....in that social setting not that they might be effected by EMF ....

If you in your home and get Zapped by EMF you will get up and look around wondering whos spying on you....you might look out the window and if theres somebody passing or a niegbour about you will think hes the cause of the "feeling watched" sympton/side effect or you may belief theres hinded camers,bugs in your home like I did when I got first targeted and new nothing about this.
obvioulsy the people behaind the tech which is RADAR based can time this to an event/people moving about ...they have a birds eye view of the area....


look I can tell/prove you that theres RADAR working in our community
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/13/humanrights.mobilephones

How mobile phones let spies see our every move

Government's secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signal

* Buzz up!
* Digg it

* Jason Burke and Peter Warren
* The Observer, Sunday 13 October 2002

Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government.

The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain.

The technology 'sees' the shapes made when radio waves emitted by mobile phone masts meet an obstruction. Signals bounced back by immobile objects, such as walls or trees, are filtered out by the receiver. This allows anything moving, such as cars or people, to be tracked. Previously, radar needed massive fixed equipment to work and transmissions from mobile phone masts were thought too weak to be useful.

where are these Gangstalking groups? how are they organised payed for?

look when you look at the effects of EMF/technology the mind games they play,
also the reactions and how TI`s are treated in the comuiity thats basicaly explains "gangstalking" belief and expereinces without there any need for organised people doing it

bealert
24-01-2010, 09:51 PM
you make provocative statements then refuse to talk about it...
if TI's are just experiments have you ever wondered why? could it be some sort of discipline program?

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deca
24-01-2010, 10:02 PM
you make provocative statements then refuse to talk about it...
if TI's are just experiments have you ever wondered why? could it be some sort of discipline program?

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why do you think I want to stick to the technology and prove I am being targeted with microwaves? because it will prove I am a target ....I don`t need to prove who or why......end of story

Gangstalking sites make you look at this arse about elbow .....making TI`s come up with a motive why they are being personal targeted and be witch little local group is doing it to them personaly....then instead of understanding the technology it gets you spoting and talking about preps all day.....


look whats done in the past? do you think they would test non lethals microwave based weopons any different?.....TI`s seem to be a cross section of the population
These tests and experiments were
conducted to support weapon development programs, identify methods
to protect the health of military personnel against a variety of
diseases and combat conditions, and analyze U.S. defense
vulnerabilities. Healthy adults, children, psychiatric patients,
and prison inmates were used in these tests and experiments.
Documenting the precise number of tests and participants is
difficult because government information is incomplete. Some
records have been lost or destroyed, and existing documentation
contains limited information and often does not identify names of
participants.

bealert
24-01-2010, 10:09 PM
why don't you need to prove who and why is doing the EH...surely proving who is doing it is the only way to stop it or am i missing something here.

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deca
24-01-2010, 10:15 PM
why don't you need to prove who and why is doing the EH...surely proving who is doing it is the only way to stop it or am i missing something here.

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I live near a militray complex base that use high tech and has advanced EM test facility, ok

once I can prove detect the microwaves attack on me i will trace ware its comming from or let others do

they know who dam well doing it....The EM spectrum monitored.....they now people like us can`t easyile prove it and that we want be believed

bealert
24-01-2010, 10:22 PM
sounds so easy ...so how come you aint traced it yet. surely this sort of technology is encrypted to the highest key possible.. and therefore untraceable...if it simualtes mobile phone frequency you have no chance. The Russian woodpecker was frequency used to block outside radio in the 70-80s which could be heard on sw radio..is it possible a signal could be disguised using such frequencies?

deca
24-01-2010, 10:26 PM
thats why I trying to understand the technology and not get subverted and misdirected ok

obvioly the key is that our bodies are effected by it, just need to detect the changes in our own bodies.
also a lot of our symptoms are very much the same (but more controlled and targeted ) to people complaning of Electrical Hypersensitivity and microwave sickness

bealert
24-01-2010, 10:37 PM
but mobile phones can do that on there own? so how will you know what signal is doing what if it is encrypted? Have you heard of the Russian woodpecker? it was a signal sent out by the Russians during the 70-80s to stop Radio signals penetrating Russia..They stopped using it i believe in the late 80s the signal could be heard all over the world which is about the time mobile phone technology was invented.. so the the Russians stopped the woodpecker transmission obviously for a superior technology ..encrypted mobile phones signal perhaps? if this is the case what chance have you in finding the encryption of the same tech being used here in the uk its obviously untraceable especially if its broadcast by satellite.

deca
24-01-2010, 10:46 PM
the thing here is to understand Dr persingers work here with weak complex magnetic fields and the effects on the brain.....

the freqencys they use has to be understood by our minds and bodies for a start......they are not encrypted

bealert
24-01-2010, 10:56 PM
but you would have to monitor a brain being manipulated by EH and then trace it back to the satellite then find out who is using it...no government agency is going to allow a investigation or access in to its highly classified information...they will just block it under the secret information act because of a security risk. surely a signal can encrypted only to unzip it self on contact with the target. Do you ever get a loud whistling noise?

deca
24-01-2010, 11:08 PM
but you would have to monitor a brain being manipulated by EH and then trace it back to the satellite then find out who is using it...no government agency is going to allow a investigation or access in to its highly classified information...they will just block it under the secret information act because of a security risk. surely a signal can encrypted only to unzip it self on contact with the target. Do you ever get a loud whistling noise?

I get allsorts ...if they are not talking via microwave hearing or repeating/interpting my thoughts they they play white noise...I am on it all the time....obviouly when I think about this they bugger me up and try to put me off/ distract ect....

I hopeing If I get the right sort of equipment...they will just bugger off not risking a TI with hard evidence
eventally this tech will come out.....might be for a few years but it will be hard for them to dispute our cliams if we can acurate depict/describe the technology before its affocally announced...
simlar to microwave hearing Ti`s were talking about it for years before the americans addmitted they had the capability and have been deveoploing weopens based on it i.e MEDUSA

bealert
24-01-2010, 11:14 PM
I doubt that will happen..how much does equipment like that cost? if technology is being held back there probably isn't any technology available to detect it.
They will use the probability factor and hide behind the fact its a security risk to disclose information...total protection

deca
24-01-2010, 11:23 PM
I doubt that will happen..how much does equipment like that cost? if technology is being held back there probably isn't any technology available to detect it.
They will use the probability factor and hide behind the fact its a security risk to disclose information...total protection

you forget technology changes but the human mind and body does not much
so any technolgy has to work with that and interface with it .
also civvy street is catching up...i.e computers controlled via thought, mobile phones that you can talk via subvocals ect....also it want be long before they will be putting brain scanners in airports and useing mind reading lie dectors

our on MOD also predects by the year 2025 brain chips/implants and broadcast direct to brain technology will be common place

bealert
24-01-2010, 11:29 PM
but you dont know what is being held back or what advances have been made...you only know what is available because they let you know. i am not trying to prove you wrong only stating things as i see them but yes i see your point. but that still does not alter the fact they can hide under anti terrorist laws

deca
24-01-2010, 11:36 PM
but you dont know what is being held back or what advances have been made...you only know what is available because they let you know. i am not trying to prove you wrong only stating things as i see them but yes i see your point. but that still does not alter the fact they can hide under anti terrorist laws

yes but If I accurately describe the technology used on me before its announced then they denie it, then later admited it want that of vindicate my claims of being used to unwittingly to test this.How would i know? if it wasn`t

bealert
24-01-2010, 11:46 PM
yes but If I accurately describe the technology used on me before its announced then they denie it, then later admited it want that of vindicate my claims of being used to unwittingly to test this.How would i know? if it wasn`t
That's why it resembles mental illness..so it will never be found out.
They will just keep denying it..the perfect crime.
If they know what your doing all the time they will just stop using it whenever they want so you can never catch them.
I think its a way of installing discipline in to a person in a do it or die like scenario which is why TI's face so many different tests under extreme pressure to asses there cracking point

deca
25-01-2010, 12:11 AM
That's why it resembles mental illness..so it will never be found out.
They will just keep denying it..the perfect crime.
If they know what your doing all the time they will just stop using it whenever they want so you can never catch them.
I think its a way of installing discipline in to a person in a do it or die like scenario which is why TI's face so many different tests under extreme pressure to asses there cracking point

yes but also
Drug abuse, including alcohol and prescription drugs can induce symptomatology which resembles mental illness.

and if you read Dr persingers work he can produce "drug effects" by electronics
Michael Persinger - Psychotropic drugs and generated neuro-realities. Persinger has a helmet - he can replicate drug states at will as well as claiming to have solved the alien encounter experience. Really interesting lecture. But this is only partially true and not an objective solution to how reality is manufactured.
very intresting video
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4292093832329014323#

bealert
25-01-2010, 12:14 AM
ok ill watch it in moment.
Really enjoyed talking to you deca.

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bealert
25-01-2010, 01:12 AM
very good video ...wow so anyone that can control the sub concious can control the population ..very scary stuff ..have you any other videos i can watch.

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deca
25-01-2010, 01:33 AM
very good video ...wow so anyone that can control the sub concious can control the population ..very scary stuff ..have you any other videos i can watch.

yep very scary indeed , also how they have tried to contol us with drugs in products and the water supply....and how now they can induce drug like states alter states with electronics (weak complex magnetic fields)

also how this ties in with pollitic/encomic agenda

bealert
25-01-2010, 01:40 AM
in the film control factor it says all TI's emotions are fed back into the population to create unrest...wow just think if that's true i mean the consequences are terrifying. This could be why they want to create negative emotions in us.

deca
25-01-2010, 01:48 AM
Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #1)
Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #1) - YouTube

Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #2)
Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #2) - YouTube

Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #3)
Frequencies of Destruction: Setting the Stage for Planetary Extermination (Preview #3) - YouTube

bealert
25-01-2010, 02:08 AM
This could be why they use fear on TI's so they can capture the emotions to use on other people....sounds crazy...but what if its true?

deca
25-01-2010, 02:43 AM
Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 1/4
Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 1/4 - YouTube

Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 2/4
Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 2/4 - YouTube

Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 3/4
Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 3/4 - YouTube

Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 4/4
Nick Begich on the Alex Jones Show - Mind Control Agenda p. 4/4 - YouTube

deca
25-01-2010, 03:11 AM
The Battle for Your Mind
The Battle for Your Mind - YouTube

Subvocal Speech System at Nasa
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

subvocal
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

deca
25-01-2010, 03:36 AM
I wounder were I can get some of them electrodes and a subvocal kit???

hmmm
Wireless neckband allows first voiceless phone call
Wireless neckband allows first voiceless phone call - YouTube


http://www.theaudeo.com/
The Audeo is being developed to create a human-computer interface for communication. When a person intends to speak their brain sends muscle instructions in the form of electrical signals through the nervous system. These electrical signals stimulate the muscles to, under normal circumstances, produce the desired speech. In many cases however, disease or disability can prevent the muscles from responding to this stimulation. The Audeo gets around this by directly utilizing the electrical activity itself, which even in severe cases can still be present.

bealert
25-01-2010, 12:28 PM
The Battle for Your Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0bz4I33cPc

Subvocal Speech System at Nasa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Hm7cdYOM0

subvocal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgr7UxXso1c
It makes you wonder...if they have full control over a person ..why they don't get you to do certain things that they would make you believe they want you to do...perhaps they don't really want you to do them...hope that makes sense.

deca
26-01-2010, 04:07 AM
Don't Be Surprised 101: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 1/12

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 102: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 2/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 103: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 3/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 104: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 4/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 105: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 5/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 106: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 6/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

the women to that phoned up about hearing voices and walked down the street naked sounds very familar !!!!....TI I beleive
they normal drive you to do something like this when you are in a paniced state and under fear...near the beging of your targeting...genuaral so you get labeld and druged by mental health (the victim does this throw fear and a belief they will be left alone if they do....but sadley they never are , just driven into the hands on the mental health system(if somebody pointed a loaded gun at you and told you to dance you probadly do it....people would not think you mad if you did...they can see the person with gun....in a TI`s case the person with the weopon is hided form view)
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Don't Be Surprised 107: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 7/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 108: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 8/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


Don't Be Surprised 109: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 9/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 110: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 10/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 111: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 11/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Don't Be Surprised 112: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 12/12
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

bealert
26-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Don't Be Surprised 101: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 1/12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcTlG6gXdRwDon't Be Surprised 102: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 2/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP-uYgyj4UYDon't Be Surprised 103: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 3/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9mQMjysWcDon't Be Surprised 104: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 4/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hykM1VXgpEQDon't Be Surprised 105: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 5/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvC7cLaFyFQDon't Be Surprised 106: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 6/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2yNlRc_ae4the women to that phoned up about hearing voices and walked down the street naked sounds very familar !!!!....TI I beleive
they normal drive you to do something like this when you are in a paniced state and under fear...near the beging of your targeting...genuaral so you get labeld and druged by mental health (the victim does this throw fear and a belief they will be left alone if they do....but sadley they never are , just driven into the hands on the mental health system

Don't Be Surprised 107: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 7/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It47si0Ul2cDon't Be Surprised 108: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 8/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZlg1teCn3U
Don't Be Surprised 109: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 9/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmlYrRXoMOIDon't Be Surprised 110: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 10/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S54uT3g-SDMDon't Be Surprised 111: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 11/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKbwlxaUHwDon't Be Surprised 112: Modern Warfare and Telepathy 12/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnF3wUSuR8Y
very interesting stuff.
i wonder to what point the mkulta tests were successful...and if TI's are lab rats or being tortured by this technology for other reasons?. Is it being used for conditioning or as a punishment.

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bealert
28-01-2010, 02:17 PM
very interesting stuff.
i wonder to what point the mkulta tests were successful...and if TI's are lab rats or being tortured by this technology for other reasons?. Is it being used for conditioning or as a punishment.

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Deca what are your views to my above post.

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bealert
28-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Deca What information have you found out if any about EH...is there anything different about a TI that is different from non TI's..that can be scientifically proven?

deca
29-01-2010, 01:34 AM
Deca What information have you found out if any about EH...is there anything different about a TI that is different from non TI's..that can be scientifically proven?

dude like every other TI I have theorys on proving this/shelding little evidence , not much money to buy the equipment I need to test my theorys out....And I get electronic harrassed and buggered around all day...plus when I post or tell people they try to convice me I am ether wrong,mentally ill ,spam over and ignore or just plain ridicule .....

dude you have to remember I have a family ,work and try to keep my shit together as well......not easy

deca
29-01-2010, 04:17 AM
Re: Sharing Their Demons on the Web

Re: Sharing Their Demons on the Web - YouTube

bealert
29-01-2010, 09:43 AM
dude like every other TI I have theorys on proving this/shelding little evidence , not much money to buy the equipment I need to test my theorys out....And I get electronic harrassed and buggered around all day...plus when I post or tell people they try to convice me I am ether wrong,mentally ill ,spam over and ignore or just plain ridicule .....

dude you have to remember I have a family ,work and try to keep my shit together as well......not easy
I just wondered if there is anything physically different in ti's? anything unusual that can be proved. There must be a some sort of side effect some alteration of the bodily functions or system

bealert
29-01-2010, 12:27 PM
I have always said the best response to EH is no response. yet if victims are genuine maybe there is some common medical condition amongst ti's that that can prove they are being tortured by Electronic harassment one which would eliminate coincidence of there condition...such as physical differences. Mentally it possibly cant be proved one way or another so maybe where looking in the wrong place.


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deca
29-01-2010, 01:35 PM
I think you forget I have synthetic telepathy its pretty hard not to respond ....you say electronic harassment as if its just some type of pain ray....its well more advanced than that.

bealert
29-01-2010, 01:45 PM
No i don't doubt you..you are avoiding the main part of the question. There could be some physical reaction that as an effect on the body that is affected and permanent that shows up in tests. One that is traceable or evident in all ti's and one in which evidence could be used to prove is not a natural but a an unusual condition and therefore avoiding the possibility of coincidence. Do you have any contact with Dr's studying TI's?
I Am very interested to see your reaction to this post if any! if you want to prove it..try it..
How committed are you DECA?



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deca
30-01-2010, 03:39 AM
No i don't doubt you..you are avoiding the main part of the question. There could be some physical reaction that as an effect on the body that is affected and permanent that shows up in tests. One that is traceable or evident in all ti's and one in which evidence could be used to prove is not a natural but a an unusual condition and therefore avoiding the possibility of coincidence. Do you have any contact with Dr's studying TI's?
I Am very interested to see your reaction to this post if any! if you want to prove it..try it..
How committed are you DECA?



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dude I am victim not an expert or scientist....yes I believe there is physical reaction that can be measured I have tried a few out with the limited budget and knowledge I have.....body voltage , bone conduction, EMF detector ...I have said it many times....what test have you tried?

there is a blood test to test for being exposed to EMF but I have not researched it much

deca
30-01-2010, 03:41 AM
Guantanamo Bay, Mind Control, Brain Washing Torture, MKUltra
Guantanamo Bay, Mind Control, Brain Washing Torture, MKUltra - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IIxrcDcB5s
part 2
Brain Washing, Mind Control, Torture, Guantanamo, Mk Ultra - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8f_-dLYKCY

bealert
30-01-2010, 02:52 PM
You say you are a friend of mars boy...read this link

http://www.creviews.net/cr000020.htm

also freedom fighters of America who i believe are members of the mcvictimseu web site. http://www.creviews.net/cr000048.htm.

One other thing i would like to show is a link about someone called john finch (isnt there someone called john finch also on th mcvictimseu website) who uses the alias Lucius Godot who i believe is another member of the mcvictimseu website..

http://www.creviews.net/cr000046.htm

Perhaps your unintelligible outburst around Christmas time were more of these poison pills to discredit real TI'S in to finding support..why else would you post it?.

jakemaverick
30-01-2010, 04:43 PM
You say you are a friend of mars boy...read this link

http://www.creviews.net/cr000020.htm

also freedom fighters of America who i believe are members of the mcvictimseu web site. http://www.creviews.net/cr000048.htm.

One other thing i would like to show is a link about someone called john finch (isnt there someone called john finch also on th mcvictimseu website) who uses the alias Lucius Godot who i believe is another member of the mcvictimseu website..

http://www.creviews.net/cr000046.htm

Perhaps your unintelligible outburst around Christmas time were more of these poison pills to discredit real TI'S in to finding support..why else would you post it?.

still trying to figure out of you are a troll, govt agent, a bit schizo or what.....are you the only person with access to your ID?

deca
30-01-2010, 04:45 PM
You say you are a friend of mars boy...read this link

http://www.creviews.net/cr000020.htm

also freedom fighters of America who i believe are members of the mcvictimseu web site. http://www.creviews.net/cr000048.htm.

One other thing i would like to show is a link about someone called john finch (isnt there someone called john finch also on th mcvictimseu website) who uses the alias Lucius Godot who i believe is another member of the mcvictimseu website..

http://www.creviews.net/cr000046.htm

Perhaps your unintelligible outburst around Christmas time were more of these poison pills to discredit real TI'S in to finding support..why else would you post it?.


you have to understand what mind control & electronic harassment is
plus who is exposing it....yes victims....not experts...people that are getting manipulated.....is it any wonders they make mistakes and get subverted into doing things wrong?????

Then there's the other TI`s that don`t get the technology influence direct mind control .....who are more community based (physical sense ) who are paranoid and have little trust who just endless accuse people....and guess who you point the finger at....

bealert
30-01-2010, 05:30 PM
I have always said the site was a fake same as that idiot that posted above you.

deca
30-01-2010, 05:34 PM
I have always said the site was a fake same as that idiot that posted above you.

I don`t waste my time out tring to figure out who`s fake prep etc...

i post the information that I believe is correct and take what I can from other TI`s what they post.

bealert
30-01-2010, 05:55 PM
thats a good attitude to have...nether the less always good to know who you can trust and who you cant.

I ignore most other people on this forum don't want to get side tracked...

some people threaten to kill themselves..read there blog...perhaps some people would be better off.


He keeps following my post looking for support or sympathy like a lost puppy...what a fucking loser

deca
31-01-2010, 09:36 AM
thats a good attitude to have...nether the less always good to know who you can trust and who you cant.

I ignore most other people on this forum don't want to get side tracked...

some people threaten to kill themselves..read there blog...perhaps some people would be better off.


He keeps following my post looking for support or sympathy like a lost puppy...what a fucking loser


look I am tiring to expose the technology and raise awareness so non TI`s can take our claims seriously a help us to put an end to our suffering....

please take your personal insults to another thread and don`t ruin mine

I wan`t be dragged into this type of behavior as it distracts from the very important information and plays into the "paranoid nut job" stereo type that we get labeled with and written off as

bealert
31-01-2010, 10:30 AM
Why don't you say the same to him deca?

Or are you gang stalking again..lol

bealert
31-01-2010, 10:32 AM
look I am tiring to expose the technology and raise awareness so non TI`s can take our claims seriously a help us to put an end to our suffering....

please take your personal insults to another thread and don`t ruin mine

I wan`t be dragged into this type of behavior as it distracts from the very important information and plays into the "paranoid nut job" stereo type that we get labeled with and written off as
why dont you slag off others that try to ruin this thread like suicide man ....maybe your gang stalking again..the word fake comes to mind

brainfreeze
31-01-2010, 10:33 AM
still trying to figure out of you are a troll, govt agent, a bit schizo or what.....are you the only person with access to your ID?

On another forum someone said that you Jakemaverick and Sean, the admin guy on this site, are one and the same.

I was just wondering how true this is?

jakemaverick
31-01-2010, 06:51 PM
On another forum someone said that you Jakemaverick and Sean, the admin guy on this site, are one and the same.

I was just wondering how true this is?

?????? no way man!!! what site you on about?????

i'm not allowed to say what i really think, but total antithesis of him and what he stands for, as far as i can tell......

deca
31-01-2010, 07:14 PM
this thread about mind control & electronic harassment not personal disagreements....please don`t derail my thread

can some kind mod please start an new thread for these people in the rant room to argue out instead of on this thread and move the post asscocated with there argument .....thanks

bealert
31-01-2010, 07:50 PM
this thread about mind control & electronic harassment not personal disagreements....please don`t derail my thread

can some kind mod please start an new thread for these people in the rant room to argue out instead of on this thread and move the post asscocated with there argument .....thanks
I am not arguing deca...i know what you are!
Electronic harassment covers a wide range of subjects and somebody that dose not get EH would not know what they are...if we are to believe what you post in this thread..any negative reply could be because of the technology..isnt that true?
I believe this thread is giving wrong information and possibly Eh is making you act as if you know everything when in fact the opposite is truth.. in future posts i shall begin to prove your points are wrong for the benefit of ti's that believe they are getting tortured with it. Forums are a place for discussion and the very fact people discuss point of view is a good thing...its only when people cannot back up there info or make personnel attacks that it becomes a problem. I look forward to you proving your points and educating me in how your going to prove Eh exists or more importantly how you are going to prove what it is doing to you and the harm it may be doing to your body. If i closely examine your points i will give credit where credit is due and like wise give criticism or ask questions when i feel you lack proof.

bealert
31-01-2010, 08:34 PM
so deca..lets begin with a easy question.
1. what are the harmful effects of prolonged EH on a persons body over and above what other electrical devices may cause and how is it possible to establish the so called targeted individual is not having physical response to drugs.

deca
01-02-2010, 12:49 AM
this is quite a good site
http://eharassment.stalkingbyproxy.net/countermeasures.htm

I have had numerous physical problems which almost completely incapacitated me. When I could not find a way to stop the harassment, I took the next best route: to focus on ways to build up my depleted immune system and improve my health. I didn't know when I started how effective these "countermeasures" would be, but I had to try something. I was so utterly exhausted, and in so much pain due to sinus problems that I couldn't even take care of myself, let alone my child.

The countermeasures proved to be remarkably helpful in improving my overall health as well as my state of mind. I am sharing them here so that others can also benefit from them, as well as to give hope that there is more than one way to deal with this problem. Taking good care of yourself is never a bad thing, no matter how you look at it.

1. Small countermeasures that add up:

It is important to remember that even though we have no way to stop all the harassment, we can do a number of small things that make the harassment less intense. These are the ones I would HIGHLY recommend if you try no others:

* Block out noises by making your own noise. A fan should be sufficient to drown out other noises. Note that some fans make an unpleasant noise, but others don't. I would recommend returning ones that don't sound good, and getting one you can live with (plastic is probably best).


* Use supplements to repair the damage to your body and brain. The following are essential:
1. Niacin - NO FLUSH (very important to get this kind) - this repairs brain cells.
2. Ginko Biloba - helps with alertness and memory issues affected by the attacks.
3. B-complex - helps with stress related to attacks.
4. St. John's Wort - take this at bedtime. It is not only for depression as is advertised, but was used to strengthen the mind for all sorts of issues in the past, including "warding off devils". I don't know about you, but I would say we need to ward off a few devils.
5. A good multivitamin daily.


2. For those with sinus problems:

Day after day, I found my sinuses filled to bursting, pulsating painfully, and keeping me awake at night - sometimes all night long. I mentioned in my story that my sinus would make a clicking noise and then fill up painfully. Many victims have reported chronic sinus problems which may or may not be due to implants in the sinuses.

I made the startling discovery one day that my sinuses seemed to go particularly crazy when I consumed whey extract - a powder that comes from milk and is used to boost the immune system, as well as provide an easy source of protein for people who do body building.

I began to cut dairy out of my diet to see if it would make a difference - and it sure did. After I stopped drinking milk and eating cheese, the problems with my sinuses all but stopped. I have not had my sinuses fill up painfully since those changes. For anyone with the same problem, it is worth giving up all dairy products (milk, cheese and butter) for at least a month to see if that reduces the problem.

Update: (Oct. 25, 2005)
I still don't eat cheese, butter or heavy dairy products like ice cream, but I can now put cream in my coffee without a problem.


3. Extreme fatigue:

I also suffered from very intense fatigue. For all intents and purposes I had the symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome. I wanted to sleep all the time. But even after I slept, I never felt rested. Sometimes I was so tired I felt like I was drunk - almost slurring my words. No matter what I did, no matter how much rest I got, I felt this way for several years without a break. Each day was a battle to get through the day.

Like the sinus issues, I made a discovery. By observing how my body reacted to what I ate, and with some serious help from above, I discovered that I was allergic to certain foods: eggs, chocolate and peanut butter. But probably the worst culprit by far was sugar! I don't feel tired until the day after I consume sugar, but every once in a while when I break my own rules, I sure can feel it!


4. Psychological warfare:

There are some very basic ways which have strengthened my mind against the negative effects of being in this kind of a situation and all the baggage that comes with it. Some of the problems are due to simply the way we perceive being attacked. Some of the problems are due to being attacked. My strategies are as follows:

1. Strengthen your body

This means getting healthy. Look at what you are putting into your body. Determine if you have food allergies or other allergies which may be weakening your body. Take the supplements I have recommended above. And exercise. If you are not used to exercising, start very slowly, a little at a time. As you strengthen your body and improve your health, your mind will naturally gain strength as well. You'll feel better, despite all that is happening.


2. Seek Peace

In any way that you can, seek out balance and peace. This means dealing with anger, finding a way to let the attackers go. Anger will keep you stuck in the same rut without progress unless you either (1) channel it into something productive like activism, or (2) try to understand - to truly understand - why someone would be doing this to you. This helps when it comes to releasing them. Releasing them releases you.


3. Push them out

I know this may sound like the opposite of the last one, but the two go hand in hand. Sometimes you need to push them out of your mind - your head - your life. Imagine that you can close a door on your attackers. They are still there behind the door, but they are not where they don't belong - in the sacred space inside you. They have no right to be there, no right to push themselves into places they have not been invited. This is like any other boundary issue, where someone has crossed a boundary that you don't want them to cross. And like any other boundary issue, the way to deal with it is to say "NO". Say it every time you need to say it. And go on with your life.

It can be done - I do it every day. It took some practice to learn to condition my mind against the intrusions, but I did. And so can you.


4. Find your life

Even though it may seem that fighting this situation is your life, it really is only a part of it. Perhaps a small part of it. Search for your dreams and go after them anyway, despite what is happening to you. It may take a little longer than it might have otherwise, but this situation doesn't change the fact that we are people with hopes and dreams and aspirations.


5. Become a Christian

I am not advocating becoming "religious". I have had a LOT of issues with the Christian church and the response I got from the church when this began. But I have to say one thing: when I trust that God's holy spirit is leading me and guiding me, my mind is a lot clearer and more focused than when my faith starts to slip away. A warning however: don't let it become a religious thing - the perpetrators will try to make you super-religious if they can't get you to lose faith. Being super-religious is not effective spiritual warfare. Stay REAL at all times.


6. PRAY!

It is amazing how the attacks intensify when I pray. This may seem like a counterproductive countermeasure, but it really isn't. The perpetrators seem to fear prayer. There is no other reason why prayer brings on such an increase in attack. It is because prayer works that they seek to destroy the faith of Christians. Remember fellow Christians, where our power lies. We should not expect the attacks to stop - we were warned that we would go through hard times in our life - but we should always remember that our reward isn't in this life. The perpetrators have their reward - they have nothing to look forward to except what they receive RIGHT NOW from what they do to us. We have a reward in heaven that far exceeds anything we can imagine. Don't lose faith.


Live as if you're a normal person in an abnormal situation,
not as if you're an abnormal person.

Remember to be kind to yourself - someone has to be.

deca
01-02-2010, 12:51 AM
http://eharassment.stalkingbyproxy.net/index.htm

What is electronic harassment?

Electronic harassment or e-harassment is a catch-all term used to describe a group of circumstances which a large number of people are currently experiencing in common. In general, this term refers to the use of electronic technology to view, track and/or harass a person from a distance. Whether this is done by satellite, land based systems or locally (i.e. by neighbours) is largely personal opinion. There is no definitive proof that would allow any of the present victims to launch a court case, but the numbers of victims and the commonality of experience speaks for itself.

The technology involves the use of electromagnetic waves of various frequencies to achieve different results. Some frequencies will make a person tired, while others may cause confusion or memory loss. With the rapid increase in cell phone usage, many experiments have been conducted on the detrimental effects of those particular frequencies on animals. The results indicate that the invisible em signals from cell towers can cause a wide range of physical ailments. If that is the case with the relatively narrow range of cell phone frequencies, it is even more likely the case with the frequencies which may be used to cause direct, intentional harm to a person.

There are other excellent websites which have gone into a lot more detail and effort in substantiating that such technology can exist, so that information is not repeated here. See the links to other websites for additional information about the technology.

Electronic harassment is sometimes referred to as "psychotronics", but would more accurately be described as "criminal psychotronics". Psychotronics is a term which was coined to describe psi (psychic) research undertaken in Russia during the Cold War. According to some sources, the Russians are far ahead of the Americans in such research. According to Tim Rifat's book "Remote Viewing", the Russians explored the use of remote viewing for intelligence purposes, becoming adept at effecting all kinds of results on victims from a distance, including influencing decisions and causing illness. They also used electronic technology directly to affect the mental condition of their enemies (the Woodpecker signal is one such example, although the motives behind the signal remain debatable), as well as in conjunction with the psi experiments to enhance results. Whether or not the situation of e-harassment victims also includes psi weapons is a matter of opinion.


What are the symptoms?
The following is a list of the most common symptoms which people experience. Not everyone experiences all of these symptoms, but most victims share a large number of them.

* Ringing in the ears: Can be various pitches, constant, intermittent, occurring in both ears or only one ear. Can sound like a low rumbling noise or like a buzzing mosquito, for example. Victims report a feeling of discomfort that accompanies the noise. Some report the noise being loud enough to cause excruciating pain.


* Clicking noises inside the head: Many report hearing "clicks" in their sinuses and/or their ears. Read Motorola Labs report about microwave hearing.


* Manipulation of body parts: Muscles are pulsed and/or contracted involuntarily. Feet, legs, arms, and individual fingers can be made to move by sudden jerking or the motion can be slow and controlled. This often occurs at night in bed, although it can occur anywhere.


* Piercing sensation on skin: This involves the feeling that the skin is being pierced by a needle. Some report this as painful, while others only experience it mildly.


* Sinus problems: Those who suffer from sinus problems report it to be very painful and agitating, with the sinuses filling up and pulsing, often preventing sleep from occurring.


* Sexual attacks: Many report the sensation of having their genitalia manipulated. Both men and women report this. It involves tingling, prickling, arousal and/or pain of the genital area. It is a particularly disturbing and traumatic experience, with the accompanying sensation of being severely violated. Given the "artificial/electronic" nature of it, there is no question that it is not by any stretch a "natural" occurrence.


* Tapping or Banging noises: This is experienced as coming from the outside environment. It is often a source of sleep disturbance, and occurs just as one is going to sleep. Click here for a sample recording.


* Appliances turning on/off: Some have had the experience of having appliances behave in unpredictable or inexplicable ways. Machinery containing motors will run far too fast (and/or far too loud) causing them to break down quickly.


* Hearing Voices: About half of the targeted people hear voices, often identified to be those who are perpetrating the crime. The technology exists to transmit sound inside peoples heads, bypassing the ears altogether. There is speculation that this is a form of microwave hearing. Some report hearing the voices outside of their heads, as though there is a speaker inside their home somewhere.


* Visual Hallucinations: Some report visual hallucinations. Seeing colored lights is commonly reported.


* Street Theatre: Some people experience what is called "street theatre" - a form of harassment that involves multiple stalkers participating in aggravating the target, very often involving noise campaigns.
1. See Terrorist Stalking in America, which describes how street theatre is accomplished.
2. See two Toronto Star articles on extremist group vigilante type behavior which follows the same model of harassment.
3. Also, see gangstalking.stalkingbyproxy.net for a more detailed description.

* Sleep deprivation: This is commonly reported and achieved any number of ways, but usually involving excessive noise.


* Anxiety attacks: Many people experience a racing or pounding heart just as they are about to go to sleep.


* "Pseudo" heart attacks: This involves the sensation that the chest is being tightly constricted, mimicking the symptoms of a heart attack.


* Other symptoms: Social isolation, chronic fatigue and other illnesses, headaches, thoughts of suicide, depression, inability to hold a job, diagnoses of mental illness, and the like often accompany the situation.


* Computer problems: Although victims are certainly not alone in having computer problems, they report frequent issues with emails as well as general computer use. Click here to see some examples.


* Destruction of property: Items are vandalized but not to the degree that it would appear to be vandalism to someone else. This technique is called "Gaslighting" and is a form of subtle revenge that is described here in a book review by Eleanor White. The purpose is to incur numerous small costs over time to the targeted individual, thereby raising stress levels, as well as to undermine a person psychologically by creating a sense of self-doubt and insecurity.

deca
01-02-2010, 01:00 AM
I am not arguing deca...i know what you are!
Electronic harassment covers a wide range of subjects and somebody that dose not get EH would not know what they are...if we are to believe what you post in this thread..any negative reply could be because of the technology..isnt that true?
I believe this thread is giving wrong information and possibly Eh is making you act as if you know everything when in fact the opposite is truth.. in future posts i shall begin to prove your points are wrong for the benefit of ti's that believe they are getting tortured with it. Forums are a place for discussion and the very fact people discuss point of view is a good thing...its only when people cannot back up there info or make personnel attacks that it becomes a problem. I look forward to you proving your points and educating me in how your going to prove Eh exists or more importantly how you are going to prove what it is doing to you and the harm it may be doing to your body. If i closely examine your points i will give credit where credit is due and like wise give criticism or ask questions when i feel you lack proof.

as you see from the above site I am basically reporting what other TI`s report and have similar symptoms ......

The thing is I did not go to the internet and read about this for about 2 years i was warned off and scared off doing so...via (microwave hearing effect) but eventually overcome my fear and started to research this and link up with other TI`s....So when I did I had been through a lot ...they play many mind games on me...I did not get the reinforcement that other TI`s who were under similar mind games (physiological ) would of gave each other.....so there attacks were full of wholes and did not add up

most of my research is based on the Technology and how the mind works and how EMF can effect it ...
i.e when you do that you start to understand why/how TI`s belief and act the way they do.
I was lucky and read/watched the better material
plus my own experience with mind altering drugs LSD and magic mushrooms many years ago gave me an insite to my later targeting with electronic induced effects/altered states
also I was interested in electronics/computers....making computer based music...using sound editors samplers etc(came in handy with all their cheep audio trick they play)
Plus my own background and years working with the public and sort of knowing doggy characters and that made me less vulnerable to there mind games .....So when they were trying to pass/fool me that they were local petty crooks just did not add up...then they tried to pass themselves of as police officers ...they just did not know basic criminal law....there AI scripts/physiology just broke down.
There technology is far to advanced to be anything other than miltray complex/government agency

so deca..lets begin with a easy question.
1. what are the harmful effects of prolonged EH on a persons body over and above what other electrical devices may cause and how is it possible to establish the so called targeted individual is not having physical response to drugs.
__________________

from the "Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry"
Microwave auditory effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Recovery/Safety

Humans have been subjected to this phenomenon for many years. The energy deposition
required to produce this effect is so small that it is not considered hazardous
experimentation when investigating responses at the just-perceptible levels.


Possible Influence on Subject(s)

Application of the microwave hearing technology could facilitate a private message
transmission it may be useful to provide a disruptive condition to a person not aware of
the technology. Not only might it be disruptive to the sense of hearing, it could be
psychologically devastating if one suddenly heard" voices within one's head."

also Dr persinger claims he can electronically induce many states even Drug ones ...with out the the side effects associated with a chemical based method

(on/off) high as a kite or very low or in the zone .....couple of seconds later normal

deca
01-02-2010, 04:07 AM
Biological Target/Normal Functions/Disease State

This technology makes use of a phenomenon first described in the literature over 30 years ago. Different types of sounds were heard depending on the particulars of the pulse
characteristics. Various experiments were performed on humans and laboratory animals
exploring the origin of this phenomenon. At this time, virtually all investigators who have studied the phenomenon now accept the thermoelastic expansion of the brain

Technological Status of Generator/Aiming Device

This technology requires no extrapolation of estimate its usefulness

who knows how many projects/test they are running with these types of technology

deca
01-02-2010, 07:44 AM
Mind reading: '60 Minutes' part 1

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3IBZHYPn7w

Mind reading: '60 Minutes' part 2
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzZ6BLjmBY

bealert
01-02-2010, 02:07 PM
As the post by Eleanor white says there is to many conspiracies on certain forums/websites for anyone to take any serious notice of what is written there..The more conspiracies they cover the more crazy they come across..even though some of them may be true.

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deca
03-02-2010, 05:52 PM
“You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.”.......Abraham Lincoln



You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink

I just love these types of quotes


I don`t know why they ever thought these mind control & electronic harassment programs are going to get them anywhere.........

bluestflame
03-02-2010, 11:56 PM
what if , food additives were the raw materials , a convenient means to get the raw materiels into the bodies , mobile phone towers a convenient way to activate the construction process, to begin the process of building the micro technology, transciever, the implants of yesteryear old tech that required physical proximity in order for manual implantation, look at the medical application for nanotechnology and wonder if this is what they are making known publicly what stage of development are they actually at ...

outside the box is where you'll find me

the best defence against something is to know the rules and regulations , the principles that govern its operation, what it can and cannot do , fear distorts , education refines our understanding ,

deca
04-02-2010, 08:16 AM
Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

President Eisenhower warns the U.S.
President Eisenhower warns the U.S. - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13zCc9JW_wI

deca
04-02-2010, 08:21 AM
what if , food additives were the raw materials , a convenient means to get the raw materiels into the bodies , mobile phone towers a convenient way to activate the construction process, to begin the process of building the micro technology, transciever, the implants of yesteryear old tech that required physical proximity in order for manual implantation, look at the medical application for nanotechnology and wonder if this is what they are making known publicly what stage of development are they actually at ...

outside the box is where you'll find me

the best defence against something is to know the rules and regulations , the principles that govern its operation, what it can and cannot do , fear distorts , education refines our understanding ,

sorry I just don`t get it the implant/no implant pointless debate that circulates around TI`s forums/web sites.....The de classified documentation says they don`t need them, so do most of the 3rd party research ...plus every TI I know when they got first targeted hand "mind games" involving the belief of chips/implants ....mainly to try get you to self harm...
I just don`t think they would go to the effort and risk of incertin a implant when they can just target you remotely with pulsed microwaves non lethal and cause many symptoms and effects.....

think its mainly damage limitation .... only "implanted people" can be effected so if non TI`s read our sites they don`t get worried and think its only a small number off people involved

Also it plays it TI`s ignorance and desperation....we all like an easy way to stop this ...so the idea of locating a implant and removing sounds like a quick easy solution but I never have come across a creditable TI that has removed and implant and stopped there targeting

bealert
04-02-2010, 01:51 PM
what if , food additives were the raw materials , a convenient means to get the raw materiels into the bodies , mobile phone towers a convenient way to activate the construction process, to begin the process of building the micro technology, transciever, the implants of yesteryear old tech that required physical proximity in order for manual implantation, look at the medical application for nanotechnology and wonder if this is what they are making known publicly what stage of development are they actually at ...

outside the box is where you'll find me

the best defence against something is to know the rules and regulations , the principles that govern its operation, what it can and cannot do , fear distorts , education refines our understanding ,
good post mate,,agree with you totally
Use a stud finder to find implants.

deca
05-02-2010, 03:07 PM
good post mate,,agree with you totally
Use a stud finder to find implants.

Interesting about the stud finder.....

http://www.freewebs.com/textlord/How%20to%20Check%20for%20Alien%20Implants.txt
How to Check for Alien ImplantsHow to Check for Alien Implants!
This was sent to me by Art 12-7-03
Dr. Roger Leir was on the Art Bell Show a few nights ago. He is the doctor
that has surgically removed 11 alien implants from abductees. He reported a few
methods that he had used for locating implants in the abductee's bodies. If
the implant is in transmitting mode, it can be located with a frequency counter.
That is a device that detects the specific radio frequencies that a radio is
transmitting on. Dr. Leir said that the implants transmit on different
frequencies, and will also change frequencies while in operation. He said he was
checking one implant in an abductee he was helping and his frequency counter
registered that the implant was operating on a frequency of 92.6 megahertz FM.
As
he was checking it, the implant changed frequencies and jumped up to 102
megahertz. Dr. Leir said that some implants can be detected with an electronic
stud
finder or with a small hand compass. If the implant is in a silent mode, it
could not be detected except by X-raying the abductee or by using an MRI machine
to find it. Dr. Leir said that he had sent the 11 implants that he removed to
various respected research labs to have them analyzed. He said that one of
the implants had an iron casing, could be picked up by a magnet, but would not
show up on an X-ray as an iron object normally would. He said that the
scientists that examined that implant were unable to explain why and how that
was
possible. They theorized that the aliens were somehow able to use some advanced
method of making the crystalline structure of the iron amorphous to the X-ray
beams, so the X-rays would pass right through the structure as if it wasn't
there. They were at a loss to explain how that was possible. Dr. Leir also
reported that the testing labs said the implants used nanotechnology.
Art


The problem is it does sound more plausible if you are a target and that they target you with the aid of an implant but I think the basicaly don`t need and implant basicly the pain ray can target people indivuals with out implanting the target first, Microwave hearing does not need an implant


http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc64d9q2_0fc6mf8g8
Technological Status of Generator/Aiming Device


This technology requires no extrapolation of estimate its usefulness Microwave energy

can be applied at a distance,and the appropriate technology can be adapted from existing

radar units. Aiming devices likewise are available but for special circumstances which

require extreme specificity, there may be a need for additional development Extreme

directional specificity would be required to transmit a message to a single hostage

surrounded by his captors. Signals can be transmitted long distance(hundred of meters)

using current technology Longer distances and mores sophisticated signal types will

require more bulky equipment but it seems possible to transmit some type of signals at

closer ranges using man-potable equipment.


Range


The effective range could be hundreds of meters.

are the RADAR able to do this ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/13/humanrights.mobilephones

How mobile phones let spies see our every move

Government's secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signal

* Buzz up!
* Digg it

* Jason Burke and Peter Warren
* The Observer, Sunday 13 October 2002
* Article history

Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government.

The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain.

The technology 'sees' the shapes made when radio waves emitted by mobile phone masts meet an obstruction. Signals bounced back by immobile objects, such as walls or trees, are filtered out by the receiver. This allows anything moving, such as cars or people, to be tracked. Previously, radar needed massive fixed equipment to work and transmissions from mobile phone masts were thought too weak to be useful.

The system works wherever a mobile phone can pick up a signal. By using receivers attached to mobile phone masts, users of the new technology could focus in on areas hundreds of miles away and bring up a display showing any moving vehicles and people.

An individual with one type of receiver, a portable unit little bigger than a laptop computer, could even use it as a 'personal radar' covering the area around the user. Researchers are working to give the new equipment 'X-ray vision' - the capability to 'see' through walls and look into people's homes.

Ministry of Defence officials are hoping to introduce the system as soon as resources allow. Police and security services are known to be interested in a variety of possible surveillance applications. The researchers themselves say the system, known as Celldar, is aimed at anti-terrorism defence, security and road traffic management.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327185.600-microwave-weapon-will-rain-pain-from-the-sky.html

THE Pentagon's enthusiasm for non-lethal crowd-control weapons appears to have stepped up a gear with its decision to develop a microwave pain-infliction system that can be fired from an aircraft.

The device is an extension of its controversial Active Denial System, which uses microwaves to heat the surface of the skin, creating a painful sensation without burning that strongly motivates the target to flee. The ADS was unveiled in 2001, but it has not been deployed owing to legal issues and safety fears.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate (JNLWD) in Quantico, Virginia, has now called for it to be upgraded. The US air force, whose radar technology the ADS is based on, is increasing its annual funding of the system from $2 million to $10 million.

The transmitting antenna on the current system is 2 metres across, produces a single beam of similar width and is steered mechanically, making it cumbersome. At the heart of the new weapon will be a compact airborne antenna, which will be steered electronically and be capable of generating multiple beams, each of which can be aimed while on the move.



so I believe they don`t need any sort of implant to track and target you with microwave based weapons

The do it at distance via RADAR

If you look at implants you start to see problems with it they have covertly implant you first , There is wide use/access of X ray/ MRI technology ...you can even pay for your own scan.....if you found and removed an implant you would have very strong evidence/ the target might be able to damage it , or it malfunction etc.... another government get there hands on it

bealert
05-02-2010, 05:42 PM
Yes deca of course your right on implants in regards of today's technology..there is no need for a implant..yet implants have been found in apparent Alien abductions ..would you say perp technology is more advanced than alien technology? if it exists, maybe there are things microwave tech cant do and therefore the need fo implants is essential for some perposes

deca
06-02-2010, 05:15 AM
Yes deca of course your right on implants in regards of today's technology..there is no need for a implant..yet implants have been found in apparent Alien abductions ..would you say perp technology is more advanced than alien technology? if it exists, maybe there are things microwave tech cant do and therefore the need fo implants is essential for some perposes

I would say there no alien technology on this planet its all MILAB (military experiments ).....(Alien tech) is just advanced technology 10 - 20 years head of the game out of the miltray complex ...using Alien belief as a cover/smoke screen

deca
06-02-2010, 06:01 AM
Don't Be Surprised: p88 Jesse Ventura HAARP 1/4

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCwYIMTH0YQ
I have meet Jerry E. Smith and bought his book and had a long chat with him good guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_E._Smith

Don't Be Surprised: p89 Jesse Ventura HAARP 2/4
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFHDNrUwRk8
hmm looks like they screwed with his electronics


Don't Be Surprised: p89 Jesse Ventura HAARP 2/4
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFHDNrUwRk8

Don't Be Surprised: p90 Jesse Ventura HAARP 3/4
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmYgXBOwN8o


Don't Be Surprised: p91 Jesse Ventura HAARP 4/4

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcpxAFPLlg

deca
06-02-2010, 06:17 AM
meet him in liverpool at beyond knowledge conference

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6959/scansig.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/scansig.jpg/)

deca
06-02-2010, 06:20 AM
now I am saving up for a neurophone and see if it can block/counter out the microwave hearing

http://www.neurophone.com/

http://www.intermediaplus.tv/videopoutoutmoun/images/divers/180446283541.jpg

bealert
06-02-2010, 01:16 PM
I was watching a video on bill cooper who said ..the technology leap from cables to fibre optics was a giant technology leap given to us by Aliens ..not that i believe everything i hear nor do i necessarily believe in aliens but i like to keep a open mind...

deca
06-02-2010, 01:23 PM
i think in the end bill cooper realized he had been duped by the Alien conspiracy and was an cover/propaganda created and spread by the CIA/military

bealert
06-02-2010, 01:36 PM
Character assassination is a well known ploy used on whistle blowers..the very fact he was killed in suspicious circumstances predicted hes own death and predicted 9/11 in my opinion proof some of what he said is worth considering

deca
06-02-2010, 01:40 PM
Milton William Cooper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Cooper's research later led him to the conclusion that he (and several others) had been deceived by superiors into believing the UFO conspiracy with bogus documents. In a paper available at his website (hourofthetime.com) called MAJESTYTWELVE he stated:

When I saw Operation Majority while serving in the Navy I believed the alien threat was real just like everyone else. It was not until I had performed many years of research that I was able to fully understand exactly what it was that I had seen. It was extremely difficult for me to believe that my government and the United States Navy had used me, especially since I had dedicated my life to government and military service. Most government and military personnel cannot and will not believe such and [sic] idea.[3]

bealert
06-02-2010, 02:12 PM
As i said there is not a better way to destroy a person than using Character assassination..not sure why he backed down on he's ufo whistle blowing perhaps he was scared because of threats...or maybe he was duped...who knows. I cant seem to find any video of him actually saying he was duped...only websites making accusations of him being a liar and accusing him of being paranoid....strange..its got trait's of gang stalking there...
Although the smoke screen theory would make a lot of sense.

deca
09-02-2010, 02:51 PM
I can`t wait to unplug or block out their patronizing physiological bollocks ....just there to wind you up,tease,trick, make you feel worthless,make you give up etc.....

If you are(they....government agency/military complex.... people know how you are even with all your high tech misdirection and deception) so invincible why do you need to target me 24/7? ....yes because you are not....end of story.....

you need to be viewed as the "good guys" others wise people would ask question especially were all there hard earn TAX is going founding these projects !!!!!!....this it will "keep us safe" crap running thin now...
especial when people realize how you have tested and developed this type of technology !!!!

and wait and until they realize how you intend to manipulate the people into accepting this !!!! i.e by fake terror and horrific crime to shock people into submission

deca
10-02-2010, 06:28 PM
mind weapons turning your home into a horror show
these weapons have nasty settings and can turn you against yourself or the people around you ,They can put you into surreal settings and wrap you perception fool your sense and mind

Evil Dead LOL

Evil Dead LOL - YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnxsbzwK_Y

I was lucky and did not do much harm to myself or anyone else because I had years before experimented with mind alter drugs .....but these electronic induced states with psychological direction and when you first get targeted especially if you are unaware and no previous knowledge and in a disturb state , you could easily believe you are possed or others around you are...or manipulated in doing things you would never dream of doing
obviously the microwave hearing effect can throw intimidating voices/sound effect from all sorts of direction misdirecting you into believing alsort of things.

bealert
10-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Brilliant scene from the Evil dead ....One of the best horror films ever.

I think the military do the Eh and the undercover police do the rest.

bealert
12-02-2010, 02:11 PM
Here is a link in to Eh and mind control.
Many people that claim they are being targeted are liars..they pretend to be victims in order to distort the truth . These people will use forums to hassle the true victim on forums etc. The security services are behind Mind control not the masons or any other secret organisations..its all designed to distract the truth from victims and those that would offer otherwise offer help in a attempt to make the victim look mentally ill. So people can post what they want on a forum but true victims know the truth and recognise fakes not due to paranoia but due to the lies and they are trying to mislead others with
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/kirklandsilventmasaccre1part14mar09.shtml

deca
12-02-2010, 02:53 PM
psylogical bullshit they try on me

rough me up with there RADAR based microwave hearing effect.....shout at me...then say they are the emergency service`s then tell I need to go to some isolated place rough me up, tell me my wrongs, then prove they control ambulances,helicopters,fire-engines etc....and for some reason I have ,its my fault that my head pics up their communications and that if i want to live around here i need to join up to one of these services and I owe it back to society.....

but as I have said ....I have already know its hard getting into these servises they are not short of volunteers to join them....most people who do are already commietd and want to join.

So why do they want me to join? yes so they can try to integrate there tech....nothing to do with me personally....

also they might be trying out a rough justice scheme , were they blast individuals and try to turn them into law abiding citizens ...

I sick of being a unwitting unpaid crash test dummy for these lot,I having my life ruined and them trying to psychological force me it going along whats good for them.

easyway to stop me grassing this up....stopping doing it in the first place.....so obvious what you are doing and trying to develop .....unless you subvert your victims into believing and taking goobly gook

also this tech gives the people behind it a almost undetectable way of driving selected individuals into the hands of mental health and destroying their lives, and discrediting them....

also it probably can drive people to commit suicide or commit violent crime

deca
13-02-2010, 02:25 PM
what pisses me off is getting microwaved all day and being forced to here the physiological bullocks....which have got 3rd party evidence to prove its bullocks....the worlds filled with idiots/users and sick`os why bugger up my life??? I to much of an individual free thinker to join anything to swear oath or show loyalty.....found that out we I was 18 and tied to join the RAF....I just not committed to serving others. I don`t mind help others, I enjoy it...but not going to make career out it ....well I have in a way I work as barman I love working in places that people are having fun, I don`t know why they bother, I guess just keep me distracted and a play in to me good nature physiological try to persuade me to keep my mouth shut through some "duty".....or that I do theirs some "carrot" to get at the end.......
also they like come down on you like tonn of bricks to stop you from even bothering trying to expose this and try to convince you its not worth trying....I seen right through your psychological game...used physiology myself...in real situations face to face... to solve real violent conformations If I got it wrong shit would hit the fan........fuck your virtually crap

Again its like what I sussed out a while back they can just bugger you up or promise you mental carrots.....all to try and "handle you" carrot and stick mentality .........I am just not buying into it.
If you have took your tech off 5years ago a not hassled me I would of not pursued this ....but since researching this I have no choice....cheers...thanks for educating me about all the wrongs that's happening and the lack of justice in this country ....you did not educate me but forced me to basically research all the truth to find out whats going on....because people are just going to figure out that you psychological bullshits does not add up or make sense and you sweet talk is just nonsense and I body would know If you went along with it you could never trust it and know it will shaft them.....

you just thought you could use your "toy" to fuck some "numpty" like about and get away with... You just get hack that I sussed this out and see through your bullshite and your attempts to cover it up and buries me and put some "clean" good purpose over the top of this sort of testing.
There only one way this is going to stop in the courts and exposing it.
And finding some method to detect and make this tech useless and accountable....but the PTB now how useful it is.

Don`t make out its to protect from other countries technology's ...because you all sat around and agreed to use it on your own people!!!!

ellis_deatrip
13-02-2010, 04:50 PM
I was wondering if the work of Dr. Fred Bell (http://www.raysoftruth.tv/) is of any signifigance to this thread.He headed Government funded mind control research that covered such topics as past life regression, and the popular remote viewing used today by the CIA and other intelligence agencies worldwide.I know, his website seems to be all about money:mad: , but he does have a Ustream channel that's free of charge.

USTREAM, You're On. Free LIVE VIDEO Streaming, Online Broadcasts. Create webcasts, live stream videos on the Internet. Live streaming videos, TV shows
All abount holisic and spy tactics

deca
13-02-2010, 05:05 PM
look mind control is full of exotic seductive misleading claims and beliefs , mainly to subvert and misdirect people who come across the abusive unwitten human experiments ......people are soon drawn towards these than rather than exposing the terrible illegal actions and human suffering thats going on and the victim is soon forgotten not helped and people wounder of own cliams of aliens,magic powers, secret energy's technology's an do nothing to help the victim....


Peoples brains/minds are getting messed with, mind controlled lets deal with that..expose and stop it!!!!!

deca
14-02-2010, 02:18 AM
A lot of what they do to me personal is mental batter/subvert/distract (drive a mental wedge in)me when I am thinking about this how I am going to deal/expose/explain whats happened too me and how I believe this technology works.....
Think is conditioning to put me off, make it a difficult unpleasant experience...I think they are under assumption that if they repeat this enough times I will eventually not bother or give up.....but they forget its process also piss me off and reminds this bullshits is happening so it will never work...
The other trick they do is try to exploit expand weird false strange assumptions and play into my fantasy ....then try to panic me...or make out its some how important to express these or post them.....

so bottom line stop hinder put me off my decent assumptions and observations then encourage not so good ones and make me write about them....

This has not really worked ether as I take my time to think things throw , also I enjoy my imagination exploring my mind ....but I am firmly grounded in reality at the end of the day.this is why most of my post are back with some type of 3rd party support also because this has been researched many times before a well written about.The problem is proving you are a victim of this....hence why they try to make TI`s sound grandiose,paranoid and delusional

I.e you would not make life changing actions when drunk or on drugs so I tend not to when heavily influenced by this technology .
Plus I am pretty laid back and don`t get stressed about stuff or tend to act out of fear or panic...

so i going to have to find ways to stay focused in the right mental state , motivated with the correct information.

which is not as easy as it sounds with this mind control & electronic harassment technology try to get me to do the opperset

also they have another layer were they try to convince me that some how this is a good process or that the technology is some how doing some "better good" etc....but sometimes I buy it to that but its not long before I realize what personal harm abuse its done to me or others so that just falls apart...so basically i try to keep my life together, unjumble my mind , get some positive things done while they scramble/distract/harass then blag me .....

so I really need to look at some type of shielding and other counter measures to block/lessen their attack on me....and also other methods to protect myself.

but again my ability to earn money is serverly hindered.

deca
14-02-2010, 03:07 AM
now I and other Ti`s already know that PTB and the psychiatry are trying to explain why people all around the world are reporting similar things having similar symptoms i s because of an supposedly "internet delusion" theory ..there idea is TI`s go to the same sites in some kind of delusional state read a few articles then some how believe they are suffering from that... which sounds pluasable and also make out the TI`s is not being attack by microwave weapons but only reading about them ....

but on closer expection would not these "delusional" people not believe other things as well? also it does not explain why TI`s vists these sites in the first place, It does not explain why Ti`s suffer and report these things long before they discover or even hear of other TI`s or such sites....

In my own case I went to the doctor and complained that I was hearing some type of mobile phone conversations(not so far away when you think synthetic telepathy , microwave hearing is a type of communication system) , long before going on the net.

deca
14-02-2010, 03:51 AM
I get asked all the time "we are you a target" ,"whats important about you" etc....

why does anyone get experimented on?

people don`t say why is Norwich import why did they chose Norwich why not Edinburgh why is Norwich special ?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4507036.stm


Inquiry into spray cancer claims
Norwich city centre
Cadmium chemical was sprayed over Norwich in the 1960s
The effects of cadmium spraying over a city in the 1960s are to be investigated after claims that it was linked with cancer of the oesophagus.

North Norfolk MP Norman Lamb was told of the decision by the Department of Health after he tabled questions to Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

"There are many concerns about the possible effect of cadmium spraying in Norwich and the cancer," Mr Lamb said.

Cadmium powder was sprayed over part of the city during weapons testing.

The investigation will involve the Health Protection Agency (HPA), the local Primary Care Trust, the Cancer Registry and the local Public Health Observatory.

'No link'

Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Public Health Caroline Flint informed Mr Lamb of the investigation, adding: "I am advised that it is unlikely the zinc cadmium sulphide dispersion trials have resulted in any long term health effects."

Campaigners claim that Norwich has a higher number of cases of cancer of the oesophagus than the national average.

Peter Brambleby, director of public health at the Norwich Primary Care Trust denies this and is on record as saying that he could find "no link between the spraying and this cancer".

He said: "My examination of the most up-to-date data for Norwich shows a low incidence and lower than expected incidence of oesophageal cancer."

'Simulate dissemination'

But earlier this year Mr Wyn Parry, a consultant at the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital and a specialist in oesophageal cancer, said more research was needed on this type of cancer.

"I see patients across Norfolk and we would expect to see between 120 and 130 cases (national average) but we are seeing between 170 and 180. Perhaps 50% more than the national population."

A small quantity of cadmium was sprayed over parts of the city as part of a Ministry of Defence experiment on chemical dispersal.

The Ministry of Defence said the experiment, which its scientists say was safe, was to "simulate the airborne dissemination" of biological warfare agents in the air.

lizzy
14-02-2010, 04:01 AM
look mind control is full of exotic seductive misleading claims and beliefs , mainly to subvert and misdirect people who come across the abusive unwitten human experiments ......people are soon drawn towards these than rather than exposing the terrible illegal actions and human suffering thats going on and the victim is soon forgotten not helped and people wounder of own cliams of aliens,magic powers, secret energy's technology's an do nothing to help the victim....


Peoples brains/minds are getting messed with, mind controlled lets deal with that..expose and stop it!!!!!

yes deca.....your right.....;).....good to see you at work and supporting other TI's....I hope you winning today.

deca
14-02-2010, 10:54 AM
Thanks lizzy for the words of encouragement:)

it in some ways really like startrek when a few enterprise crew get captured and assimilated by the Borg, the Borg whispers slowly try to take over your mind and get you to lose your identiy and submit to their control, The crew fight as long as they can to keep their individuality intact , personality , belief and sense of who they are ....but because the Borg are automation its relentless , The Borg at times can be very seductive and physiological ware you down. But hopefully so far I have realized its a one-way path and not the one i want to take...I not surrendering my body/mind so I am turned in some Autonomous unit for these people behind the technology < think who these people are .
The thing is just a psychological blagg because all they have done is tried to weaken my position and dig my own grave ...they know I not going along with this and therefore no use to them.
also there is no Trust....so I am stuck in this position getting microwaved to degrade me and then they turn on the good stuff and they try to psychologically sweet talk me into something that will bugger up my real life around me....
this is were they try to use media feedback as visual carrots & sticks as reinforcement to what ever bullshit they are trying to pursued me i.e others are backing me or going against me or what I should do to get out off this etc...but I just don`t watch the control media now...or very little at times it suits me.
I don`t have that much in life in the material sense(not real that way motivated anyway) , but one thing that i did in joy was my free thinking mind , just loved coming home chilling relaxing and go on my PC creating stuff music , graphics...i was crap at it but it was a hobby that I enjoyed , now they have invade that privet inner space, my escapism ...as if life not hard enough navigating the system and making ends meet and getting time to enjoy the things that you do.
I did not go looking for this, they targeted me, I don`t want nothing to do with it, since then they have tried there technology psychological means to Direct/control me into doing stuff,influencing me to something that they want to some how "handle" me and control the situation that they created and get an outcome that they want < i thought about this and want nothing to do with it ....think about it I am the physical visible presence on the ground if i fallow their instructions I am the one that has suffer consequences of that ....they are sat in safe seat ...I have no comeback ....they have pluasable denablity and worse society as it stands would class me as some nut job
At best I am just would be a useful idiot , that would take the rap if the shit hit the fan

god knows if they have others in positions of authority that they can control influence so they can control the system and push through there NWO .I have know way of knowing as i believe they quickly destroy people I believe who open their gob about this. They might Hold others as hostages in their own mind and body holding an invisible gun to their heads
as I say don`t know how true that is , they certainly use my belief of that to psychological say by exposing this I endangers other peoples lives..... So its a real bastard situation I am in mentally and physically
So i just try and keep my real normal life together as much as possible with out that anchor I surly would go insane.But if they attack destroy that it would just create a bigger visible mess on the ground and add creditability to my claim also in would motivate me it exposing this more , more time money ...it certainly would not turn me into go berserk as this just plays into their game and what they want chaos on the street to forward their agenda and placing more technology on the street and justifying it.
this is clearly a political legal matter and has nothing to do with mental health but they know that if they can get their victims labeled and into the mental health system the victim is not only discredited , loss of freedoms, forced medicated (witch weakens there mental ability to defend themselves) but also denied legal and political support.

this technology is turning the mental health system into concentration camps ....Technology targets a person they are mentally buggered ,staggering around in a distressed state....its not long before they are picked up by mental health teams locked up, labeled and drugged all under the guise of care in the community ...real sick why some TI`s say its the silent holocaust

obviously this kind of practice happens in other country's i.e China ,Russia and others were they employ death squads but in the west they can`t openly do this , why they perfere this method

So with more government increase in spying Emails,phone calls ...expect a sharp increase in cases of so called "mental illness" as they try to dispose/ruin the life of what they would class as dissidents or subversive people/activist They are quite openly telling people they will use non lethal s on these groups.
they can`t pull up outside your house and throw you in a unmark van and make you disappear, but they can do it legally and openly if they label you mentally ill first.

deca
14-02-2010, 12:48 PM
so i realy don`t know what kind of project I am under

A)some person that they can manipulate into creating a nasty shocking headline


B)some person they hope to control influence to be a "puppet"

C)just somebody they are using for human experimentation crash test dummy

D)Somebody who became aware or sensitive to their spying capability who was picked up by there see thou wall radar/profiled/thought scanned/some sort of danger flagged ...i.e like celldar and was thought a danger or something....which has since been apologized for as mistake bad judgment on there part and created this mess.

E)They also make out that I am unlucky and natural sensitive to this....like people who suffer from the HUM about 5-10% of the population in some areas.

I probably never know the real reason.Probably I believe started with D and then has been tried to turned it others

obviously knowing the above from what could possibly have happens to other victims makes it difficult for them to psychological trick me into them above roles apart from C) as they just keep comimg up with new tricks ect.......Hence why they contensently FRY me and slow me down exposing and proving this
it also explains my interest/knowledge in the technology and effects over the mind body and the psychology they use, also why other TIs have not grasp this and are running around in a paranoid/traumatized/fearful state seeing "boogie men" every were they go were I know the technology tracks and targets me 24/7 ....but most is passive you only feel certain effects of it depending on what type of program they are running

deca
16-02-2010, 02:50 AM
Vitamin B complex can i believe help from some of the side effects of emf

http://www.kznhealth.gov.za/nutrition/food6.htm

Foods rich in Vitamin B12
Meat: liver (best source); beef/mutton; chicken; pork/ham; fish; whole egg

Dairy products: milk; cheese; yoghurt; maas

http://www.weightlossforall.com/foods-rich-vitamin-B12.htm

Vitamin B12 Richest Foods List Micrograms Portion
Liver over 30mcg 100g
Sardines (canned in oil) up to 28 100g
Kidneys 15mcg + 100g
Rabbit up to 12 100g
Liver sausage 8mcg 100g
Liver pate 7.2 100g
Fatty Fish 5mcg + 100g
Faggots 5 100g
Eggs up to 5 100g
Mussels 4.5 100g
Duck up to 3 100g
Steak & Kidney pie 2 100g
Cod fillets 2 100g
Corned beef 2mcg 100g
beef up to 2 100g
Haddock 1.8mcg 100g
Breakfast cereals (if fortified) up to 1.7 100g
Lamb 1.5 + 100g
Turkey 1.5 + 100g
Pork 1.4 + 100g
Cheese (hard types) 1 + 100g
Beefburgers 1 + 100g
Sausage 1 100g
Beef Stew 1 100g
Bolognese sauce 0.9mcg 100g
Chilli con carne 0.85 100g
Condensed Milk 0.85 100ml
Milk 0.40mcg 100ml

bealert
16-02-2010, 08:38 PM
The reason why its done?....army discipline.

deca
17-02-2010, 01:02 AM
Are we just lab rats?

Subbed - LSD experiment on Czechoslovak army - English transaltion -


Subbed - LSD experiment on Czechoslovak army - English transaltion - - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iualITdxXBk


forward a few years not LSD but non lethals to see what effect it would have on civilians ?

thinking of the above video its like a meeting of TI`s trying to organize themselves and figure out how they are going to stop/expose and figure out whats going on.....

"they do us with implants"
"no they do us with microwaves"
"no its all about gangstalkers"
"sssh them two are enemy spys...shhh"

if you sort of understand what a nightmare this is being in this position

deca
17-02-2010, 01:19 AM
Hofmann's Potion - The LSD Experiments

Hofmann&#39;s Potion - The LSD Experiments - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HobvU30O9Nc

Hofmann's Potion - What is LSD and What Does it Do?
Hofmann&#39;s Potion - What is LSD and What Does it Do? - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al45Yu_pKfg

zmanforever
17-02-2010, 02:08 AM
I have been busy trying to do my real life freeman stuff, but I am back.

First post in here and many thanks Deca.

Please keep this going one of the best threads out.

deca
17-02-2010, 02:58 AM
I have been busy trying to do my real life freeman stuff, but I am back.

First post in here and many thanks Deca.

Please keep this going one of the best threads out.

thanks...it does mean a lot to me that people have read this thread think over 100,00 people they might not believe whats written about ,some might even ridicule but a least they have , I knew very little about this when I was unlucky and targeted ....if you ask me the day before I was I would of thought Ti`s crazy and it not possible too... not sure if that holds true nowadays as theirs a lot of big brother spying and some of this tech is admitted.

hopefully if you have come across information about mind control & electronic harassment if you are unlucky and targeted in the future a least you have a starting point and less likely to be physiological directed into doing harm to yourself or others or into doing stuff you later regret.

anybody reading this should really try and get an understanding of mind control methods and a grasp of physiology theirs many forms and mediums for this to be deployed onto the unaware mind
The technology That I talk about microwave hearing is just basically another layer/medium to deploy it unfortunately for TI`s other mediums are easily turned off ,not read or can be walk away from or with understanding knowledge can been seen for what they are.

also I would advise anyone to try and get a grasp of the mental health system and mental health act
anyone who has read the Robert Green/ Hollie Greig case can see how the mental health system can be subverted to discredit ,detain etc people wrongly

Martha Mitchell effect
Martha Mitchell effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Martha Mitchell effect is the process by which a psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health clinician mistakes the patient's perception of real events as delusional and misdiagnoses accordingly.
According to Bell et al., "Sometimes, improbable reports are erroneously assumed to be symptoms of mental illness," due to a "failure or inability to verify whether the events have actually taken place, no matter how improbable intuitively they might appear to the busy clinician."[1] They note that typical examples of such situations, may include:

* Pursuit by practitioners of organized crime
* Surveillance by law enforcement officers
* Infidelity by a spouse

Quoting psychotherapist Joseph Berke, the authors note that "even paranoids have enemies." Any patient, they explain, can be misdiagnosed by clinicians, especially ones with a history of paranoid delusions.

Psychologist Brendan Maher named the effect after Martha Beall Mitchell.[2] Mrs. Mitchell was the wife of John Mitchell, Attorney-General in the Nixon administration. When she alleged that White House officials were engaged in illegal activities, her claims were attributed to mental illness. Ultimately, however, the relevant facts of the Watergate scandal vindicated her and hence attracted to her the title of 'Cassandra of Watergate'.

bealert
17-02-2010, 11:33 AM
Read this Today


Victims say that they are physically harassed and relentlessly stalked, whether they travel on foot or in vehicles. GPS devices are secreted in their cars or cell phones. When a "target" enters a designated "node" area -- whether near or far -- the local vigilantes in that area receive a signal on their GPS or cellphone devices, often accompanied by a read-out of commands from the "team leader," specifying what kind of sadistic psychological terror and harassment to dish out.
The stalkers then "swarm the target," whose GPS beacon shows up on their GPS device screens in a distinct pattern that stalkers call "the crown of evil"

deca
17-02-2010, 04:54 PM
Read this Today


Victims say that they are physically harassed and relentlessly stalked, whether they travel on foot or in vehicles. GPS devices are secreted in their cars or cell phones. When a "target" enters a designated "node" area -- whether near or far -- the local vigilantes in that area receive a signal on their GPS or cellphone devices, often accompanied by a read-out of commands from the "team leader," specifying what kind of sadistic psychological terror and harassment to dish out.
The stalkers then "swarm the target," whose GPS beacon shows up on their GPS device screens in a distinct pattern that stalkers call "the crown of evil"

and the proof of that?

how are the targets tracked in the first place, so an GPS signal can be sent to a so called gangstalker?......

If you read the documents ..."done by RADAR" also EMF can make you feel watched and uneasy...don`t you think some TI`s are walking down the street being tracked with the modded RADAR, having EMF beamed at them to make them feel uneasy,being watched, in a hyper vigilant state ? Do you think that could possible explain while they feel and believe they are stalked

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7648/tware.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/tware.jpg/)

don`t you think the technology is more like the above picture than some "man intensive" with "line of sight" technology ,
think about conditioning...i.e show you an object & person and at the same time shock you....you associate the pain with that object & person
like the above picture the TI is walking down the street in a fearful hyper vigilant sate wondering who/why/what and when next shes going to be attacked ....if she gets a shock from the tech its natural to look and blame something she can see near field around here for the pain.

so if you look at the picture and pretending to be an operator and remember you have RADAR so have a birds eye view of the area .......white van passing .....zap target.....send microwave voice ..."haha get out"..... but from the TI`s point of view they will see a van approach...as it pass get pain...then hear some sadistic voice....and from that logic and resonaing is "perp van with pain weapon" has zap me......if the operator did that all day it not long before you believe half the town in on it....simple high tech one operator...in a safe seat never meet you in person or been anywhere need you...so no proof...and the TI believes and blames normal people going about their business and tryies to convince that some ambiguous /anti social behavior is so how personal organized to harass a TI or is more than it is.


think about it we already have CCTV with speakers on

NBC Reports on UK CCTV "Big Brother" project

NBC Reports on UK CCTV "Big Brother" project - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s94Yu_Io1U


this system is just more advanced RADAR,Voice,bio feedback & non Lethal ...obviously they are test and developing this type of system but its illegal...so its human guinea pigs get buggered about and driven to appear and sound mentally ill

with this you can see how people RADAR would pic out an individual acting differently/peculiar from the crowd , zoom in, if needed scan for the targets "intentions " if they were thinking of any unlawful/dangerous activity have the ability to track or even take action.....could also have some "thought correction " program attached to them


obviously they have to have some "working system" to sell and legalize to the public, probably why they make TI`s believe alsorts to subvert them away and dissociate them from the technology

also with all the CCTV cameras would`t gangstalkers/street theater by picked up ....it would look like mugging gangs or suspicious individuals hanging around ?

bealert
17-02-2010, 06:46 PM
One word deca...cointelpro. Something does not have to proved in order for us to know it exists...look at electronic harassment the same applies here or would you like me to say it does not really exist but is in your mind.

deca
17-02-2010, 07:14 PM
look from what i see is "gangstalked" TI`s model what they experiences from thier POV (point of view) and don`t full understand the technology and what it can do to their mind, body and senses and emotions believing it has to be from a near field physical object or person other wise its just their imagination(in their head) ...they are not imagination anythings they are being subverted and thier senses and perception interfered with .

to me the technology is subverting a TI making them a social outcast and that's why they get negative reactions from the people around them not the other way around as more and more people are suddenly recruited into some gangstalking group i,e family members ..which many believe are preps and whats happening to them

TI`s are the target and getting psychological fucked with mind control & electronic harassment technology....The technology turns you against the people around you....plus people around us can`t believe this in the first place.

gangstalk TI`s believe the technology only a tool that the hundreds of stalkers use now and then
my belief is the technology is at the heart of this making out hundreds of people are involved ..force multiplier.....

bealert
17-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Interesting article on tactics used by Secret police

http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/mi5s-detailed-dedicated-attempts-to-coerce-muslims-into-being-informants/


These people work outside the guidelines of the law protected under the disguise of The anti terrorist laws ..they abuse torture there victims mislead the public and are not in the interest of this country or any citizen of the united kingdom. Sick demented sheep follow out of fear these are the real mind controlled whilst true Targeted individuals have had there eyes opened..A world where anyone can be targeted and have there lives destroyed is already here...its called the NWO part one..The beginning of mind control.

zmanforever
17-02-2010, 08:58 PM
Just wow some really good theories that do make sense.

So much CCTV obviously for something more then just public safety.

jakemaverick
17-02-2010, 10:52 PM
Just wow some really good theories that do make sense.

So much CCTV obviously for something more then just public safety.

dnt tell anybody or what was doen to me may be done to you......

deca
18-02-2010, 12:56 AM
One word deca...cointelpro. Something does not have to proved in order for us to know it exists...look at electronic harassment the same applies here or would you like me to say it does not really exist but is in your mind.


This is were I think TI get it wrong they believe they are victim of cointelpro tacts via a gang and with that they get some type of technology abuse ....so gang stalkers pick on target and harass them and sometimes use microwave weapons and basically it something to do with the victim somebody they have fallen out with or something that relates to them...

I don`t see it like that for several reasons

A) if you look at TI`s they are a cross section of society so its not just some ethnically group getting attack(blacks,Muslims,jews etc...)

B) most TI`s were not classed as subversive or type of dissidents (some exceptions) before being targeted

What do TI`s have in common ? they all complain of some type of technology abuse .....ether via implants ,pulse microwaves, line of sight ...

I believe that TI`s are victims of technology first(some type of human experimentation/sick program) .....and if the technology can`t deal with the person then they might be subjected to cointelpro tactics...think how damaging it would be if a TI proved this abuse

so for what ever reason you are being used in some sick technology human experiment ......once you start becoming aware with this you get cointelpro against you to stop you exposing and stopping it not the other way around

obviously what ever program you were under went tit up and they quickly try to drive you to suicide/into the hands of mental health/criminal system etc....they can`t have you knowing this and out in the open talking about it

in my case I started to became aware of some type of outside force/influence trying to manipulate/spy on me.....as I became conscious and curious and started to look for a source..i.e hidden camera,other near field tech....they laid the technology boot in and started with all the psychological mind fuck to try and drive me nuts and into the hands of mental health or the criminal system also to try and trick me into believing it was local people that I personal new were the perpetrators off this.

bealert
18-02-2010, 01:33 AM
I think its a gradual process they use against you in order to show everyone its the target that is Mentally ill in which they replicate a slow deterioration in to mental illness..people don't become mentally ill over night. A breakdown in all aspects of the persons life is implemented upon the victim ..if you don't know what's happening you could believe your going insane but i don't believe this is the reason it is done..you either become totally disciplined or you crack..if you crack your not safe to walk the streets if you become disciplined you will or at least have a better chance of surviving. Do they want to create the perfect citizen? not sure but it makes a TI certainly stronger by ironing out weaknesses this is why i believe the system is not beatable by fighting head on and the only way forward for a TI is to Accept and adapt to it. (This is why if you respond to a situation it is repeated until you stop responding). I take each day as it comes today i have the strength to carry on but tomorrow is another day and i will face them problems how i see fit when they arise.
Do you know any TI's that as actually been put in to a mental hospital?

deca
18-02-2010, 01:34 AM
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/kirklandsilventmasaccre2part14mar09.shtml

interesting link thanks for posting into early bealert

lakkimakki
19-02-2010, 04:25 PM
http://www.markstivers.com/cartoons/Cartoons%202005/Stivers-7-21-05-Don%27t-need-.gif xD

bealert
19-02-2010, 04:56 PM
In my opinion true victims don't get support only a continuous barrage of false information given on websites and forums. Just carry on your life as if nothing is happening ...no taking notes no camera no response.. Just get your problems sorted out as a normal non Targeted person does...this is the only way to prove you are normal... by your actions.

deca
19-02-2010, 06:13 PM
In my opinion true victims don't get support only a continuous barrage of false information given on websites and forums. Just carry on your life as if nothing is happening ...no taking notes no camera no response.. Just get your problems sorted out as a normal non Targeted person does...this is the only way to prove you are normal... by your actions.

I think you will find the totally agree with staying calm, not acting out of fear,panic or paranoia and try not to publicly adversely react .....

Educate yourself for the good information and join proper organized groups and join in group action were you can`t be singled out and made to look like lone nut...

obviously keeping your life together helps, something they try to undermine ....get you to quit your job, accuse family members , others members of the community....pretty much what pure gangstalk sites push...something that I expose and explain how these believes and feeling and emotions can be done via the technology.

deca
19-02-2010, 06:42 PM
http://www.markstivers.com/cartoons/Cartoons%202005/Stivers-7-21-05-Don%27t-need-.gif xD


I think its quite funny that people get stereotyped and ridiculed in popular culture...more to do with given the mass a preconceived idea so they don`t investigate...same as they did to icke ...he think hes the son of god, and reptilians rule the country don`t listen to him....The real joke on you who laugh along with it and don`t do any research of your own.

hmm why does he have a dog on his T shirt ....."collars" and human pets

death
21-02-2010, 10:17 AM
check this link its in your paper people have to Wake up to mind control electronic harrasment its real and been done for years on thousands of people around the world remember that goverment and mod are at least 10years ahead think where this tech will be in ten years and thats right its on your door step now !!!!!!!
mind control electronic harrasment

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html

It's not just the government.
Local communities, Hollywood, religions etc.
Many of them are using satellites, microwaves and other such devices to harass some of us.
I think they genuinely do go as far as implanting radio crystals in people's skulls, teeth etc, and then you'll never escape their harassment.

Also realize that many of those posing as being on the outside of this corruption and abuse are very much a part of it. As if commercial free and college radio stations aren't part of the Matrix, it's absurd. Just the same as the independent film maker is still seeking to get Hollywood to release his movie and pay him big bucks as well as get praise from those within his field.

Just the same as those who claim to be out to take down the Matrix doing these things and abusing people for not doing as they desire or condone. Power corrupts. Give someone the ability to harass someone who is defenseless and unable to escape beyond suicide, it doesn't matter who has the ability they will abuse it and abuse those they can use it against.

bealert
21-02-2010, 12:29 PM
Its only my opinion but i think your totally wrong here.
1. They don't implant crystals or any other implants.
2. its a form of suppression designed to suppress its victims and enforce discipline.
3. Power does not corrupt only misuse of power does..there are those in power that are very good people and not out to manipulate the system to suit themselves but are willing to make sacrifices in order to bring justice to those that are being abused in any situation.
painting every one with the same brush is not only wrong it increases paranoia in a victims and increases the chance of suicide by bringing a sense of hopelessness to the situation...
you have certain truths in your post but they are ones that are there only if you believe the system will beat you and in my opinion are negative ones and not the way forward.

subl1minal
21-02-2010, 05:40 PM
I think its quite funny that people get stereotyped and ridiculed in popular culture...more to do with given the mass a preconceived idea so they don`t investigate...same as they did to icke ...he think hes the son of god, and reptilians rule the country don`t listen to him....The real joke on you who laugh along with it and don`t do any research of your own.

hmm why does he have a dog on his T shirt ....."collars" and human pets

It's seriously frustrating because he never said he was the son of God or even thought so, he was just agreeing to the media proclaiming him thinking that.

bealert
21-02-2010, 06:30 PM
I think its quite funny that people get stereotyped and ridiculed in popular culture...more to do with given the mass a preconceived idea so they don`t investigate...same as they did to icke ...he think hes the son of god, and reptilians rule the country don`t listen to him....The real joke on you who laugh along with it and don`t do any research of your own.

hmm why does he have a dog on his T shirt ....."collars" and human pets
I saw him on a program in the 80's in which he said a man would come that world fool the world (son of god) obviously talking about himself...Its just the crazy stuff i cant believe in everything else is good to listen to although i don't necessary believe it. He defiantly as fooled loads of people on this forum...still you cant argue with them.
still lets not get sidetracked.

zephiloyd
22-02-2010, 05:26 PM
I was wondering if any of you could help me. A friend of mine in his 50s has recently told me that he has been gangstalked for nearly 20 years after getting some criminals imprisoned and he now seems very depserate. I've recently looked into this thing, as I had no idea as to its existence beforehand. He believes he is being targetted by radar flashlight which uses milliwaves as developed by Georgia Tech Research Institute, see here

http://www.gtri.gatech.edu/casestudy/flash-force-radar-flashlight-could-help-police-det

He would like to know if there was something to detect these waves and/or screen him from the waves. He says that they wont even let him sleep, and this is his main concern.

shadowbroker
22-02-2010, 10:38 PM
I was wondering if any of you could help me. A friend of mine in his 50s has recently told me that he has been gangstalked for nearly 20 years after getting some criminals imprisoned and he now seems very depserate. I've recently looked into this thing, as I had no idea as to its existence beforehand. He believes he is being targetted by radar flashlight which uses milliwaves as developed by Georgia Tech Research Institute, see here

http://www.gtri.gatech.edu/casestudy/flash-force-radar-flashlight-could-help-police-det

He would like to know if there was something to detect these waves and/or screen him from the waves. He says that they wont even let him sleep, and this is his main concern.

A faraday cage of SOLID (alu or even better steel) metal should help. Contact a workshop and/or a shielding company to design and build one.

He could try to move to Russia or other countries not owned by the CIA.

shadowbroker
22-02-2010, 10:55 PM
CIA's goal is to create crazy conspiracy artists.

Watch "Mindcontrol that's imposible". Pay attention to the offical cia agent.

Read "Murders in samarkand"/"Dirty diplomacy" by Craig Murray. This is an account of how the cia is torturing people to death in Uzbekistan to create false intelligence to hide their true intentions for attacking Afghanistan. This happens all around the world.

CIA is trying to control our reality.
If crazy conspiracy artists don't exists, they create them.
If terrorist don't exists, they create them.

zephiloyd
24-02-2010, 01:24 AM
A faraday cage of SOLID (alu or even better steel) metal should help. Contact a workshop and/or a shielding company to design and build one.

He could try to move to Russia or other countries not owned by the CIA.

OK thank you. He is in Britain, but it still goes on here. So how is a Faraday cage of solid steel different to simply a solid steel cage, or are they the same? and you mean solid as in not a mesh

shadowbroker
24-02-2010, 10:45 AM
OK thank you. He is in Britain, but it still goes on here. So how is a Faraday cage of solid steel different to simply a solid steel cage, or are they the same? and you mean solid as in not a mesh

A faraday cage dosen't leak, the joints are soldered or seam welded. Special shielded vents are used. Gaskets are used around the hatch. And it is grounded.
Mesh is not sufficient. You get best protection with solid metal sheets.

"The Design of shielded enclosures. Cost-effective methods to prevent EMI." is a good title to pick up. Contact a shielding company to help design the cage.

Pre-fabricated cages can also be bought.

http://www.faradaycages.com/index2.php?p=Content&id=132&nav=Faraday%20cages&nav_grp=Prefabricated%20faraday%20cage

lakkimakki
24-02-2010, 10:53 AM
Man yout thread in NO uno. It rocks..

deca
24-02-2010, 11:08 AM
A faraday cage dosen't leak, the joints are soldered or seam welded. Special shielded vents are used. Gaskets are used around the hatch. And it is grounded.
Mesh is not sufficient. You get best protection with solid metal sheets.

"The Design of shielded enclosures. Cost-effective methods to prevent EMI." is a good title to pick up. Contact a shielding company to help design the cage.

Pre-fabricated cages can also be bought.

http://www.faradaycages.com/index2.php?p=Content&id=132&nav=Faraday%20cages&nav_grp=Prefabricated%20faraday%20cage

yes on the face of it Faraday cages sounds the practical solution
problem who whats to live in a metal box...shielded coffin...its not really that practical but might be an idea to give a place of some temporary shelter , the other is the cost ....most TI are living day by day ....there life is eroded and degrade so its tough to hold a job or have the money to invest in shielding...Then there is the problem of knowing what type of shielding going to be effective ...plus microwaves (millimeter waves are the size of this dot > . so any gaps/holes in your shielding con render it an unless an expensive waste of money and time.
Then theirs the other problem of people seeing the shielding...family members,social/mental health work ....they will think you have flipped and lost the plot if you start decorating your house in tin foil or putting up metal sheets etc. and cart you off to hospital and section you:(

deca
24-02-2010, 11:19 AM
heres some more shielding tips

From:

http://areyoutargeted.com/protecting-yourself/best-shielding-practices/

Last updated January 20, 2010. Get the latest updates to this document at AreYouTargeted.com. This document is freely redistributable, but please keep this paragraph intact.

I have gathered here the best available information on how to protect yourself from directed energy weapons in the privacy of your home. When I say “best”, I’m talking about cost effectiveness.

My position is that your first priority should be to protect your body from the long term damage done by microwave radiation. My advice – steps 1 through 4 – focuses on that aspect. Step 5 – currently incomplete – focuses on protecting against other types of attacks.

If you want to understand the basis for this advice, read “Factors relevant to shielding against energy weapons”, published on January 15th.
A step-by-step guide

Step 1. Paint your walls and ceiling with iron-laced paint.

(Note: you could also use graphite powder in place of iron, at a ratio of 6 parts paint to 1 part graphite. Graphite powder is available at most arts supply stores.)

Iron filings can function as a highly effective shielding material. You will need to mix them with paint to get them to bind to your walls. A ratio of 16 parts paint to one part iron filings works well. At this ratio, you will need two pounds of iron filings per gallon of paint.

I recommend mixing the iron filings with a type of acrylic paint that is transparent when it dries. It will sometimes be called “neutral base” or “deep base”; if you aren’t sure, ask. Because the paint is meant to be transparent, the iron filings will tint the paint a light gray. This is how you verify that your paint is well-mixed before you apply it.

Apply your iron-laced paint with a roller instead of a brush if at all possible. Two coats will probably be necessary.

For best results, you will also need to paint your doors – all sides of them. If this is out of the question, you can cover them with foil or Mylar in the next step.

A nice feature of iron-laced paint, as opposed to graphite-laced paint, is that the resulting coat of paint will be weakly attracted by magnets. It is easy to verify the integrity of an iron-based paint job by running a rare earth magnet over the surface.

You can get iron filings at about $5 per pound at Magically Magnetic – they’re marketed as “magnetic paint” additive, and the “1 gallon” container has 8 pounds of iron filings. There are many, many suppliers of iron filings, but they appear to have the best prices.

Step 2. Patch any holes in your coverage with metallized Mylar sheets or aluminum foil.

mylar-roll

Metallized Mylar by the roll. Notice how smooth the unrolled sheet is.
You shouldn’t use non-metallized Mylar sheets for this step, as they’ll provide no protection whatsoever.

You will need to cover your windows, and possibly cracks in your doorways, and maybe even go under your carpets (although I haven’t found this necessary).

You can simply tape the foil or Mylar to the walls or other objects, shiny side away from you. You may find that you have to patch multiple strips of foil or Mylar together to get the coverage you need. Your patch job should be thorough, as tiny cracks will let radiation through.

Metallized Mylar sheets come in much larger widths, which is good for patching, and they also look much neater than patched together strips of aluminum foil – they are easier to explain to visitors. On the other hand, the metal film on Mylar sheets is so thin that you can see through it in a well-lit area. Aluminum foil will offer more protection, and it is cheaper.

Metallized Mylar sheets are often used in grow rooms as a light/UV intensifier. You will be able to find them by the roll at hydroponics supply shops. For example, I found rolls online at Discount Hydroponics and New England Hydroponics. I’ve heard a report that you can get metallized Mylar blankets at Wal*Mart for $1 each.

Step 3. Ground your shielding.

receptacle

An electrical outlet. The bottom hole is the ground hole.
Run an insulated wire from your shielding surface to the ground hole of an electrical outlet. The metal part of the wire must touch the shielding surface, and also the inside of the ground hole.

This can be a very simple step if you’ve thoroughly painted your walls, and your windows are covered with a metal film that touches the walls; your entire living quarters will have a single shielding surface from an electrical point of view. In this case, you need only obtain a 3-6 inch wire, strip the ends, bend it, stick one end into a ground hole of an outlet, and let the other end dangle in such a way that it rests against the wall.

Step 4. To protect yourself from microwave attacks when you’re not at home, microwave-proof your clothes.

You will need to get clothes that you can apply screen-printer’s ink to. You’ll also need iron filings or graphite powder. For details, read my article on creating microwave-proof clothing.

Step 5 (optional). To protect yourself against heart racing and vibratory attacks while you sleep, shield the area around your bed with iron-coated plywood or Mylar.

If you’re wondering what this is about, check out my article on the nature of the vibratory attacks.

Currently, I am developing a set of plans for constructing an “anti-psychotronic cage”. Those plans should be finished shortly. In the meantime, this step is optional. If you are willing to undertake a construction project without plans on hand, read on.

My current notes on these plans indicate that you should be able to coat a sheet of Mylar with a thin layer of iron-fortified paint and it will be usable after drying out for a day. In “cheap psychotronic shielding”, I state you are trying to create the equivalent of a .004 inch thick layer of iron, so you want to use at least 1/2 tablespoon of iron filings per square foot.

My research indicates you may be able to get away with as little as a 2:1 paint:iron ratio. Keeping the amount of paint used low is important for keeping the costs down.

Because the psychotronic attacks can apparently come from any direction (except below you, in most cases) you will need to cover the area around and above your bedding. However, it does not appear that an airtight or “Faraday cage” enclosure is necessary.

Notes.

You can explain away your paint job simply by saying you like the color. Alternatively, you could say that you’re an electronics hobbyist and the paint job protects your equipment.

You can point out that the metallized Mylar or aluminum foil over your windows serves as an insulator and helps keep heating/cooling costs down.

Aluminum foil apparently provides little or no protection against psychotronic attacks.

deca
24-02-2010, 11:23 AM
some more

Some techniques By Bruno

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Shielding Ideas

Modified from a forum post by Bruno Marchesani

To completely shield from electronic harassment something like a military-grade electromagnetically shielded bunker costing perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars may be the only thing that would accomplish this. Even industrial double-walled copper shielded screen rooms starting at $10,000 allow an estimated 10% of directed energy through. While completely shielding a room with sheet metal, metalized paint or paint with graphite in it are more doable options the vast majority have found that shielding just our bodies is the most practical. In many cases it has been found to reduce EH to a manageable level.

Shielding that tends to be popular due to their convenience and economy are blue hot/cold gel packs available at pharmacies used at room temperature (several of them taped together into a blanket increases effectiveness) and rubber mats, the kind with suction cups for use in a bath tub, not to be confused with similar looking vinyl ones (Rubbermaid brand may work better than others).

Other countermeasures are steel cookie sheets, heavy pieces of steel such as barbell plates, multiple layers of foil, multiple layers of mylar blankets, wet towels, wet blankets, lead xray aprons, flexible silicon cookie baking sheets, sheet rubber available from www.rubbercal. com, filled plastic water bottles, hand lotion and other lotions, gels and creams applied to the skin, metal necklaces, metal wrist and ankle bracelets, metal belts, metal impregnated clothing, bed sheets and fabrics, such as Flectron, available from local fabric stores or from www.lessemf. com, RF shielding fabric conditioner, electrically grounded ground planes, electrically grounding our bodies, ceramic tile, unrolled copper mesh scourers wrapped around the head, RF shielded baseball cap from www.lessemf. com, neodymium or other strong or large magnets, box fan leaned against the bed to provide vibration, moving around during the day (working around the house, gardening, going for walks in the park, hiking -- makes targeting more difficult), foam earplugs, playing one or more radios tuned to different news talk stations or tuned to different types of music stations such as classical and jazz, V2K jamming multiple voice recordings available at http://www.creviews .net/antiv2s. htm (download and save to your computer for repeated playing), an anti-tinnitus CD with high frequency headphones from Case Electronics (573-870-0938) , brain entrainment CDs, brain entrainment software for PCs such as BrainWave Generator available at www.bwgen.com, audio tone generator software for PCs such as NCH Tone Generator available at www.nch.com. au/tonegen, home-made electric and magnetic jammers such as those at www.us-government- torture.com/ callallfriends. html and www.us-government- torture.com/ countermeasuresN OguaranteeNov200 0.htm, and PEMF therapy. In addition shielding materials are available from www.lessemf. com and www.blockemf. com.

Shielding countermeasures that work well for me to counteract synthetic vibrational sensations are rubber mats, electrically grounded ground plane, electrically grounding myself, RF shielding fabric conditioner, ceramic tile, RF shielded baseball cap, the anti-tinnitus CD/headphone, and listening to talk radio.

I have an aluminum screen (metal kind used for window screen and screened doors) in bed under my fitted sheet connected to earth ground (third prong of an electrical outlet, or cold water metal plumbing supply line pipe under the sink, or a metal rod driven ~2' into the ground outside). Thus I'm sleeping on a ground plane that tends to "ground-out" some of the RF directed at me. Helping further is an electrically grounded wire touching my skin while in bed, also helping to "ground-out" the RF. (Next thing for me to try is an RF fabric sheet on top, or a sheet washed in RF shielding fabric conditioner. )

Under my aluminum screen in bed is a layer of 16"x16" (more commonly available in the 12"x12" size) ceramic flooring tile from Home Depot. Yes, for whatever reason, any size ceramic tile works surprisingly well for many TIs according to someone on the conference calls who got the idea after researching what the military uses to RF shield their secure bunkers. If you've never tried it, do so! For me it probably works better than most if not all of the countermeasures listed here. In addition to sleeping on a layer of them if you want you can lean one tile against your abdomen and another against your head.

Also while sleeping I listen to a CD developed by a TI named David Case of Case Electronics which is supposed to eliminate the tinnitus some TIs experience; for me it helps me relax and may eliminate some of the electronic brain linking/neural monitoring from the perps. The CD is free (last time I checked) but you have to buy high-frequency headphones that go up to at least 25kHz, such as KOSS TSC75 and KOSS PRO35/A from Radio Shack ($25-$40). Listening to the CD on conventional speakers didn't help. Since using this CD I no longer need to sleep with head shielding.

A fabric conditioner called AegisGuard LL, available from www.blockemf. com and www.aegisguard. com, added to the final rinse cycle of the laundry while in the washing machine, results in your clothes being RF shielded. I use it all the time and feel much more comfortable during the day as a result. It costs about $4 per laundry load. Based on my experience it is highly recommended if you can afford it!

A couple of TIs in my area have found relief via PEMF (pulsed electromagnetic field) therapy administered by alternative medicine practitioners. One TI says it has helped her tremendously as before the treatments she was near death and practically blind, and another TI who had one treatment said she felt significantly better for 3 days. PEMF treatments vary from ten dollars from donation-based services to several hundred dollars for a session.

As everyone's targeting is different no one countermeasure works for everyone so experiment to see which set of countermeasures work best for you. Try one thing at a time. Even if something doesn't have much effect at first try it for a week as the beneficial effects may not be apparent initially. If things get extremely bad then discontinue but be aware it takes a while to adjust and sometimes sticking it out for a few days proves beneficial in the long run.

Try inexpensive countermeasures first before spending a lot of money on on elaborate versions -- try $2 copper mesh before spending $30 for a shielded baseball cap, try $10 rubber mats before spending $150 for a blanket-sized sheet of rubber.

Once countermeasures are found that work, switching-off between two or more of them may increase their overall effectiveness. For example wear a shielded baseball cap during the day and listen to a jamming CD at night. Try moving shielding components around to a different spot each night. Reserve an especially effective countermeasure for use only in rare instances of unusually heavy attacks.

If you've never or only briefly experimented with shielding I would highly recommend doing so. You may feel only a little better at night but then during the day may feel more positive and may be able to get more accomplished. Before employing shielding countermeasures my life had a very nightmarish, hopeless feel to it. Now my outlook is much more positive and I have more energy during the day!

More shielding ideas are at:

http://www.freedomf chs.com/id12. html
http://www.montalk. net/conspiracy/ 55
http://www.multista lkervictims. org/oscd. pdf
http://areyoutarget ed.com/protectin g-yourself/ best-shielding- practices/

shadowbroker
24-02-2010, 07:59 PM
yes on the face of it Faraday cages sounds the practical solution
problem who whats to live in a metal box...shielded coffin...its not really that practical but might be an idea to give a place of some temporary shelter , the other is the cost ....most TI are living day by day ....there life is eroded and degrade so its tough to hold a job or have the money to invest in shielding...Then there is the problem of knowing what type of shielding going to be effective ...plus microwaves (millimeter waves are the size of this dot > . so any gaps/holes in your shielding con render it an unless an expensive waste of money and time.


Metal is not expensive at all compared to copper mesh. You have to pay some for the work though. Contact a shielding company and/or workshop.


Then theirs the other problem of people seeing the shielding...family members,social/mental health work ....they will think you have flipped and lost the plot if you start decorating your house in tin foil or putting up metal sheets etc. and cart you off to hospital and section you:(

Tell them you have electrohypersensitivity.

deca
24-02-2010, 08:05 PM
electrohypersensitivity is not reconised in the uk .....it still gets classed as an delusion.


I am still looking at shielding and trying to get my head around the technology...but please remember that they choose ELF to use as communication for submerged Nuke submarines so its a bitch to shield against

shadowbroker
24-02-2010, 08:54 PM
electrohypersensitivity is not reconised in the uk .....it still gets classed as an delusion.


I am still looking at shielding and trying to get my head around the technology...but please remember that they choose ELF to use as communication for submerged Nuke submarines so its a bitch to shield against

Satellites and jet-fighters are full of electronics they are both shielded with aluminium sheets. Satellites can withstand solar storms. I have not heard of any High Energy Radio Frequency (HERF) weapon that can take out a jet-fighter. Steel is even better then aluminium for very low frequencies.

If you decide to stay, I think your best bet will be to build a safe-room (Faraday cage of solid metal) where you can sleep. So you can escape from being remote tasered 24 hours a day.

Contact a shielding company today. Ask for help. Or buy the book I recommended in an earlier post. You can probably save some money doing something by yourself, like soldering the joints. Do something proactive. Start today.

deca
24-02-2010, 09:44 PM
I don`t want to go into this but there a miltray complex 10 miles do the road the build and test jet fighters ...and have one of the most sophisticated EM labs in the world, plus they are involved with Haarp, CELLDAR, Satellites etc the full Monty.....how long do you thing I could block and shield myself before these boffins found a way to beat me? my radar paint last about 3 mins before the tech recalibrate itself? even then it didn`t block out the V2k microwave hearing effect....

shadowbroker
24-02-2010, 11:17 PM
I don`t want to go into this but there a miltray complex 10 miles do the road the build and test jet fighters ...and have one of the most sophisticated EM labs in the world, plus they are involved with Haarp, CELLDAR, Satellites etc the full Monty.....how long do you thing I could block and shield myself before these boffins found a way to beat me? my radar paint last about 3 mins before the tech recalibrate itself? even then it didn`t block out the V2k microwave hearing effect....

Absorption loss for 1/16 inch steel is above 1000db for 1 Mhz, plus some reflection loss (NASA SP-3067). Don't waste money on paint or copper mesh.

Military equipment are probably shielded against HERF weapons. In most cases I believe solid steel or aluminium are used.

bealert
27-02-2010, 11:47 AM
Warning thread may be infected by perps!!

False information is being given out on this thread

for the purpose of
Harassment
misleading victims
Entrapment


Don't believe the lies

Most of who post here maybe fake Victims


Don't respond in aggressive manner !!

deca
27-02-2010, 11:58 AM
bealert

stop going to gang-stalking sites as the wrap you perception and make you paranoid ......They make you believe your own family and kids, niebours gang-stalk you , rather than explain how the technology can effect your perception and emotions and turns you against the people around you creating confrontation so you become isolated with little support.

This thread about "mind control" & electronic harassment

understand what mind control is
Mind control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term mind control (also known as “brainwashing”, “coercive persuasion”, "thought control", “thought reform”, or “systematic manipulation of psychological and social influence”) refers to a process in which a group or individual systematically uses unethically manipulative methods to persuade others to conform to the wishes of the manipulator(s), often to the detriment of the person being manipulated".[1] Various commentators[who?] identify broad ranges[which?] of psychological tactics seen as subverting individuals' sense of control over their own thinking, behavior, emotions, or decision making.

In fact start you own thread stop messing mine up with your paranoid and baseless accusations every third post ...i.e

1st post "its all about preps and gangstalking"
2nd post "deca you might be right about technology"
3rd post "you are a prep......don`t listen"

then you start all over again break your loop will you

A) where do I trap any person and get them to post any personal details!!!
B) most of my cliams or information is supported by 3rd party support or from other TI`s
C) I don`t protect stalkers....I try to help victims that are living under fear , paranoia mainly thorough being target by the technology and try to expose the mind games played on TI`s.
D) as for fake victims ...think about it the technology turns TI`s against another TIs , sorry you not fingered that out yet and theirs so much misinformation spread around ....hence we I try to use descent sources for the information that I post

bealert
27-02-2010, 12:54 PM
Warning thread infected by perps!!

False information is being given out on this thread

for the purpose of
Harassment
misleading victims
Entrapment
And for the protection of
Stalkers.

Don't believe the lies

Most of who post here are fake Victims


Don't respond!!


Its a forum deca all aspects of electronic harassment can be discussed including the perpetrators of this crime and all area's of which there arm extends. my post does nothing but inform people of my opinion and explore area's of manipulation in which they may seek to corrupt. Forums are there for opinions to be discussed and i would appreciate your tolerance in recognising this fact in a way forward of addressing this problem.

deca
27-02-2010, 01:02 PM
Its a forum deca all aspects of electronic harassment can be discussed including the perpetrators of this crime and all area's of which there arm extends. my post does nothing but inform people of my opinion and explore area's of manipulation in which they may seek to corrupt. Forums are there for opinions to be discussed and i would appreciate your tolerance in recognising this fact in a way forward of addressing this problem.

again you make accusation and claims based on your belief and opinion and don`t provide any proof to back up your claim

If you want to discuses your opinion please post the information that you base it on

my own opinion is that while I have been busy on other threads you have been surfing "gangstalking" sites that re forcing paranoid self destructive believes and assumptions convincing you that every one that doen`t not believe "gangstalking" or gives you a negative reaction is some how a prep

bealert
27-02-2010, 01:13 PM
again you make accusation and claims based on your belief and opinion and don`t provide any proof to back up your claim

If you want to discuses your opinion please post the information that you base it on

my own opinion is that while I have been busy on other threads you have been surfing "gangstalking" sites that re forcing paranoid self destructive believes and assumptions convincing you that every one that doen`t not believe "gangstalking" or gives you a negative reaction is some how a prep
I will do as each post i believe to be fake is post on this thread. Seeing as no proof can be found on most topics under this thread i think a open mind is essential to enabling productive discussion based on the contents of each post...This may based on information or lack of information on the posters part and its the failure to discuss any topics raised by myself or any other person which may raise result in the suspicion of how genuine they are.

deca
27-02-2010, 01:15 PM
I will do as each post i believe to be fake is post on this thread. Seeing as no proof can be found on most topics under this thread i think a open mind is essential to enabling productive discussion based on the contents of each post...This may based on information or lack of information on the posters part and its the failure to discuss any topics raised by myself or any other person which may raise result in the suspicion of how genuine they are.

are you understanding that will ruin this thread and make yourself look like a troll ! :rolleyes:
I work very hard since 09-02-2007, 04:59 AM which is 3 years on this thread and also sort acts as a diary for myself.....do I need or what you to some how "judge" every post or put people off from post on here?

look you made some claims that you can back up so now you are trying another method to ruin this thread

i

bealert
27-02-2010, 01:19 PM
are you understanding that will ruin this thread and make yourself look like a troll ! :rolleyes:
why because i agree or disagree with someone's post? i thought thats what forum's are for to discuss or question points of view..i see that as enhancing the thread not ruining it.

deca
27-02-2010, 01:24 PM
why because i agree or disagree with someone's post? i thought thats what forum's are for to discuss or question points of view

you basicaly accuse every one upto now of being fake thats posted on here and post disinformation Yet you not pointed out one post to back up your cliam...and now you are trying to "make out" you are some type of expert in a position to judge peoples post or verify them


go and start your own thread stop trying hijacking mine ....if you are such and expert than people will flock to yours want they

bealert
27-02-2010, 01:36 PM
you basicaly accuse every one upto now of being fake thats posted on here and post disinformation Yet you not pointed out one post to back up your cliam...and now you are trying to "make out" you are some type of expert in a position to judge peoples post or verify them


go and start your own thread stop trying hijacking mine ....if you are such and expert than people will flock to yours want they
what's the point of starting two threads that are the same? as i said examining each post as its posted is a constructive way of eliminating disagreements as thay arise...or confirming each others suspicions...what's wrong with discussion? as long as it don't lead to personnel insults it can only be good for the forum..I have asked you and others several questions in the past in which you have not been answered this is the real problem ..a failure to communicate or side stepping the question....and not asking the question in the first place

deca
27-02-2010, 01:50 PM
what's the point of starting two threads that are the same? as i said examining each post as its posted is a constructive way of eliminating disagreements as thay arise...or confirming each others suspicions...what's wrong with discussion? as long as it don't lead to personnel insults it can only be good for the forum..I have asked you and others several questions in the past in which you have not been answered this is the real problem ..a failure to communicate or side stepping the question....and not asking the question in the first place

a) what's the point of starting two threads that are the same?

they want be the same...you just said this ones full of disinformation and fakers or preps:rolleyes:

B) i said examining each post as its posted is a constructive way of eliminating disagreements as thay arise...or confirming each others suspicions...what's wrong with discussion?

I not going to sit here and a judge people and then accuse them of being a perp....sorry that not very helpful and makes TI`s look paranoid

You post descent information that informs people, and gives people reading an incite then the misinformation just falls apart as that no need to point it out or accuse the poster that just ruins the thread.

c) long as it don't lead to personnel insults it can only be good for the forum

look you you have personal accused me on several occasions .....plus you have yourself made personal attacks to poster on here ....so that not going to be a reality is it.

I have asked you and others several questions in the past in which you have not been answered this is the real problem ..a failure to communicate or side stepping the question....and not asking the question in the first place

I not here to answer your personal questions?
if you have ask a reasonable question and I am in right frame of mind I will try to answerer it .
I am only really answering this question and allegations as you are being disruptive and I don`t want any new reader who reads that last view post get a wrong impression of the whole thread

bealert
27-02-2010, 02:02 PM
a)

they want be the same...you just said this ones full of disinformation and fakers or preps:rolleyes:

B)

I not going to sit here and a judge people and then accuse them of being a perp....sorry that not very helpful and makes TI`s look paranoid

You post descent information that informs people, and gives people reading an incite then the misinformation just falls apart as that no need to point it out or accuse the poster that just ruins the thread.

c)

look you you have personal accused me on several occasions .....plus you have yourself made personal attacks to poster on here ....so that not going to be a reality is it.



I not here to answer your personal questions?
if you have ask a reasonable question and I am in right frame of mind I will try to answerer it .
I am only really answering this question and allegations as you are being disruptive and I don`t want any new reader who reads that last view post get a wrong impression of the whole thread
you say your here to help people but then you say you will only answer questions if you feel like it...if that's not a get out i don't know what is...anyway i am not going to argue with you.. i am gonna do as i said and you have the right to answer or not but in my opinion a failure to answer is either because one you have no answer or secondly you know the questionnaire is right and you have no comeback without losing the argument.
As i said communication is the way forward and a lack of response makes me wonder why anyone is on the forum in the first place. lets not argue any more on the right to ask questions.. everybody on this forum as the right to question a post and everybody as the right to make assumptions based on others opinion or lack of them ..no one wants a world where were frightened to question any information which comes our way for that is truly being mind controlled..don't you agree?

deca
27-02-2010, 02:05 PM
any way this is a very interesting interview with Dr persinger
http://www.skeptiko.com/michael-persinger-discovers-telepathic-link/
Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point
89. “God Helmet” Inventor, Dr. Michael Persinger Discovers Telepathy Link in Lab Experiments
Neuroscience Researcher and Laurentian University professor, Dr. Michael Persinger, demonstrates telepathy under laboratory conditions.

god2Claims of telepathy, ESP and other psi phenomena are a mainstay of popular culture but taboo in neuroscience research circles. Fortunately, Dr. Michael Persinger of Canada’s Laurentian University has never been afraid to venture where other researchers fear to go. In the 1980’s Persinger made headlines with his “God Helmet”, a device that stimulates temporal lobes with a weak magnetic field in order to produce religious states.

Now, Persinger has discovered the same type of brain stimulation can create metal states conducive to human telepathy. “What we have found is that if you place two different people at a distance and put a circular magnetic field around both, and you make sure they are connected to the same computer so they get the same stimulation, then if you flash a light in one person’s eye the person in the other room receiving just the magnetic field will show changes in their brain as if they saw the flash of light. We think that’s tremendous because it may be the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection, or so-called quantum entanglement. If true, then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical applications, for example, in space travel.”

While Persinger’s experiments could prove groundbreaking, he remains doubtful about his controversial findings reaching his colleagues, “I think the critical thing about science is to be open-minded. It’s really important to realize that the true subject matter of science is the pursuit of the unknown. Sadly scientists have become extraordinarily group-oriented. Our most typical critics are not are mystic believer types. They are scientists who have a narrow vision of what the world is like.”

Play it:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/shinichi_okamoto/imgs/8/9/89a87624.jpg
Mp3 of the interview with Dr persinger
http://www.skeptiko.com/upload/skeptiko-89-Michael-Persinger.mp3

http://www.skeptiko.com/upload/skeptiko-89-Michael-Persinger.mp3

Dr. Michael Persinger: Our research starts on the basic premise that all experience is generated by brain activity. Now, the critical thing is that all experience means your experience of love, or memories, or having a mystical experience, must be associated with specific patterns of brain activity. That brain activity in large part is determined by the brain structure. Many of these things, because structure dictates function, may be relatively unique to the human being itself.

Now, although that’s our assumption, the most powerful tool of science is the experiment. So if we want to understand these experiences and how they are generated by brain activity, we have to reproduce them in the laboratory. So the basic approach then was, okay, if people have mystical experiences and they’re associated with brain activity then if we imitate them in the laboratory and we understand the physical conditions that produce them, we should be able to 1) understand the areas of the brain and the patterns of activity responsible for these experiences, and 2) we should be able to control them.

And if they’re a natural phenomena, and we think that mystical experiences, including the God experience, the God belief, are natural phenomena, we should be able to reproduce them easily if we have the correct parameters in the laboratory, control them and understand how they may be manipulated by others with less honorable goals.

deca
27-02-2010, 02:35 PM
you say your here to help people but then you say you will only answer questions if you feel like it.

no I said and I quote myself
I not here to answer your personal questions?
if you have ask a reasonable question and I am in right frame of mind I will try to answerer it .

remember I am a mind control & electronic harassment victim as such sometimes I might not be in the right frame of mind to answer it


noun

A temporary state of mind or feeling: humor, mood, spirit
Mental or emotional attitude or mood, as in You have to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy hiking in the rain. This idiom was first recorded in 1665.

And because I am under sometimes heavy barrage of physiological direction and my emotions etc can be manipulated it would be silly to answer your question until I was happy with my own state of mind ,obviously something you don`t understand or try to counter

bealert
27-02-2010, 02:40 PM
no I said and I quote myself


remember I am a mind control & electronic harassment victim as such sometimes I might not be in the right frame of mind to answer it



And because I am under sometimes heavy barrage of physiological direction and my emotions etc can be manipulated it would be silly to answer your question until I was happy with my own state of mind ,obviously something you don`t understand or try to counter
Then nothing you say can be trusted because you can be made to believe you are in the right frame of mind when in fact in just might be the tech telling you so...how would you know the difference?

deca
27-02-2010, 02:49 PM
Then nothing you say can be trusted because you can be made to believe you are in the right frame of mind when in fact in just might be the tech telling you so...how would you know the difference?

well this is were you use reason logic scientific evidence your own personal experience....

but I would watch and not heavily relying on person experience

typical ganstalking experience...

you go to the local shop ...only to find a Que and everyone is seemly take there time ..

A) gangstarker sites will try and convince you that that ganstalkers have been texted about your movements and legged their even the old biddy just to take thier time and frustrate you


B)my explanations is that you go to shop , the tech realize you in a que and manipulates your emotions .....everybody hates ques so its easy just to knock your anger,impatiences,frustration up a level or two
(i.e from thinking for fuck sake I not got all day ....to fucking hell shes doing that on purpose )

but if you had not read about the technology from you point of view and personal experience A) would sound more rational and reflected what you just had experienced

the thing is the solution the same weather you believe A) or B) that is to stay calm realize they/it trying to frustrate you...so stay calm and if need be just be polite ...no problem ,I m not in a hurry , that way you beat them/it and don`t look like an impatient unreasonable paranoid tosser

bealert
27-02-2010, 03:07 PM
why would the tech not want you to answer facts about posts about what you have already wrote..if you cannot answer these questions it would seem maybe the tech as influenced you in to writing previous posts in the first place...which again would imply nothing you write is reliable since we are not aware of the subconscious or if it is being manipulated. as you have said before gut feeling maybe influenced by manipulation of the subconscious and you may be drawn in to believing something one day and something totally different another...yet explaining a previous post cannot be dismissed if it is based on proof..and this is where questions should be asked especially where facts don't add up..this is not about mind control its about proving what you have to say is correct and at least open to discussion based upon the facts you write at he time. Failing to answer things that are supposable based on truth only questions the writers motives and may cast serious doubts about the integrity of there posts. I am not having a go at you here just stating facts as i see them. proof dose not change.

deca
27-02-2010, 03:11 PM
why would the tech not want you to answer facts about posts about what you have already wrote..if you cannot answer these questions it would seem maybe the tech as influenced you in to writing previous posts in the first place...which again would imply nothing you write is reliable since we are not aware of the subconscious or if it is being manipulated. as you have said before gut feeling maybe influenced by manipulation of the subconcious and you may be drawn in to believing something one day and something totally different another...yet explaining a previous post cannot be dismissed if it is based on proof..and this is where questions should be asked.

bealert how many question of yours have I answered and how many have I not or just ignored ?
and sometimes i just can`t be bothered because its just going over old ground and I have something else I want to post about

ask your self why I did not answer them or just ignored them?

you a prone to outburst and making mountains out of mole hills

thats another thing that ganstalking sites gets you to do ....monitor everybody else`s behavior apart from your own

bealert
27-02-2010, 03:18 PM
see this is where i have doubts about you....you are attacking me for asking questions . ..examining logical situations is a way of discovering the truth..its by discovering and questing these molehills we discover the truth about the mountains.

last post updated.

deca
27-02-2010, 03:20 PM
bealert just list the question you accuse me of dodging ......
I not got all day to beat around the push and spam under my Dr persinger post

take your time I not going waste my time with hundreds of sperate post ...one long list please thanks

bealert
27-02-2010, 03:49 PM
Have i not proved that if your information is based on proof it cannot be influenced by mind control..so replying to something based on that fact because you are in the wrong frame of mind is not a excuse as to not answering a question neither should it influence you reply..its logic deca.
Anyway i think i have made my point and i am not going to insult your intelligence by proving my case any further...

deca
27-02-2010, 03:57 PM
Have i not proved that if your information is based on proof it cannot be influenced by mind control..so replying to something based on that fact because you are in the wrong frame of mind is not a excuse as to not answering a question neither should it influence you reply..its logic deca.
Anyway i think i have made my point and i am not going to insult your intelligence by proving my case any further.

what proof have you posted????

what insite into mind control have you done???

what helpful information have you posted?

all you tried to prove is from your "opinion" that I am a perp or heavily manipulated and the information that I post can`t be trusted that's all you`ve tried to do since you been coming to this site

you are not interested in trying to expose mind control & electronic harassment or give other TI`s any useful information
and all stems from being banned from MCVictimsEU over a year ago where what did you do there....accuse everyone of being a prep and demand them to answer your questions
and when they got fed up with your attitude you used that as proof....
They don`t need to employ online stalkers when they have TI`s that act like you do

bealert
27-02-2010, 04:05 PM
Again you have attacked me deca...sorry you feel that you have to do this i cannot help you any more to understand what i have said...and how i have proved my point.
if you cant see what i have said is the truth then its your lack of understanding of the situation which as distorted your view and not my failure to prove a point

deca
27-02-2010, 04:13 PM
Again you have attacked me deca...sorry you feel that you have to do this i cannot help you any more to understand what i have said...and how i have proved my point.
if you cant see what i have said is the truth then its your lack of understanding of the situation which as distorted your view and not my failure to prove a point


sorry you started this with this post attack me this thread and everyone that's contributed to it over the last 3 years and your motive been that all they way along since join this forum....and you have failed miserably and look disparate and stupid so don`t try and make out you are innocent I am personal attacking you

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058674751&postcount=2152
Warning thread may be infected by perps!!

False information is being given out on this thread

for the purpose of
Harassment
misleading victims
Entrapment
And for the protection of
Stalkers.

Don't believe the lies

Most of who post here are fake Victims


Don't respond!!


if you continue with this type of behavior and add nothing new or constructive to this thread I be speaking to the mods

bealert
27-02-2010, 04:23 PM
the post was not directed at you..are you paranoid...it was to make people think before they post that trying to expose something on a thread that may be infected by those that may not have there best intentions at heart. I have contributed in a positive way without insult unlike you..that as attacked me because of my points of view in which believe i have proved and are valid.

zephiloyd
27-02-2010, 04:57 PM
Well if it was my post that sparked this off, all I can say is thank you for the information I have received, because until now I received no help from any other site where I asked this question. If it reassures look at my site zephiloyddotcom, I am not involved in gang stalking, I am simply concerned about new world order stuff. regards Phil

deca
27-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Well if it was my post that sparked this off, all I can say is thank you for the information I have received, because until now I received no help from any other site where I asked this question. If it reassures look at my site zephiloyddotcom, I am not involved in gang stalking, I am simply concerned about new world order stuff. regards Phil

look its just a crazy surreal world/situation that TI`s have to tread

thanks for the link to your web site " Scenar Therapy" looks quite interesting

bealert
28-02-2010, 09:43 PM
the post was not directed at you..are you paranoid...it was to make people think before they post that trying to expose something on a thread that may be infected by those that may not have there best intentions at heart. I have contributed in a positive way without insult unlike you..that as attacked me because of my points of view in which believe i have proved and are valid.
When you consider they Aim is to make it look like you don't get on with people either in life in general or in forums its easy to see why they reply in aggressive manner to your posts or just ignoring me ..both are bullying tactics..and yet i have the social skills and intelligence to beat both and not letting either bother me is like water of a ducks back...although it must be very frustrating for the bullies.

lakkimakki
28-02-2010, 10:40 PM
haha lolz:D Who is going to win ?

bealert
28-02-2010, 10:57 PM
There is no winners..in the end we will all lose. Some are just to blind to see and some just don't want to see,

bealert
28-02-2010, 11:08 PM
any way this is a very interesting interview with Dr persinger
http://www.skeptiko.com/michael-persinger-discovers-telepathic-link/

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/shinichi_okamoto/imgs/8/9/89a87624.jpg
Mp3 of the interview with Dr persinger
http://www.skeptiko.com/upload/skeptiko-89-Michael-Persinger.mp3
http://www.skeptiko.com/upload/skeptiko-89-Michael-Persinger.mp3
Great link deca..At the end of the talk they mention Dr persinger is doing research in to
the possibility that the brain is just a receptor incapable of independent thought and maybe being controlled remotely...sounds like the matrix may not be that far fetched after all. I think David icke mentioned the same thing in one of he's videos about a stroke victim .
I think David is on Talk sport soon.

deca
01-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Carrot and stick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carrot and stick (also "carrot or stick") is an idiom that refers to a policy of offering a combination of rewards and punishment to induce behavior. Some claim that this usage of phrase is erroneous, and that in fact comes from the figure of a carrot on a stick. In this case, the driver would tie a carrot on a string to a long stick and dangle it in front of the donkey, just out of its reach. As the donkey moved forward to get the carrot, it pulled the cart and the driver so that the carrot would always remain out of reach.

The earliest citation of this expression recorded by the Supplement to the Oxford English Dictionary is to The Economist magazine in the December 11, 1948, issue.

obviously they are using all types of methods to try and alter my behavior,mentality,world view

they are dilberterly over using this method not to promote good behavior or to surprise bad behavior but to promote helpless,guilt,pointless,feelings of failure,misdirection , distraction

i.e trying to set carrots I can`t reach or over using the stick to demorlise me so I just don`t bother trying anything .

I just don`t why they bother I just don`t accept their ideology,not as if I want to join them in the first place...I never volunteered

I fact the whole lot go against my ideology of freedom and privacy and justest......to badly treat me and then say keep quite and a go and help/stick up somebody else that's badly treated is hardy winning solution is it....

try to force people to accept this will never work, its flawed from start to finish .....it takes away your humanity drains/emptys your soul

sorry I not some inhumane goon .....or some pathetic suicidal loony..or useful patsy...........

I suspect that there main motive is to alter my mentality and behaviorism so some mental health work or others(family,friends,work colleges) see them as signs and indicators of mental illness, depression,paranoia,grandiose,persecution etc and ticks a box on the criteria and never really investigate TI`s claims

the catch 22 for TI`s how can we effectively expose this if people judge us by our mentality ,behaviour ect....the very thing we claim to be manipulated in the first place.

hence why many Ti`s hope/try to point out "gangstalking" prep behavior
while orthers hope/try to detect/explain the technology

the truth is probably they are using a mixture of techniques but not enough of any to leave any substantial evidence for a 3rd party to view and verify and side with the victim

deca
01-03-2010, 07:19 PM
Great link deca..At the end of the talk they mention Dr persinger is doing research in to
the possibility that the brain is just a receptor incapable of independent thought and maybe being controlled remotely...sounds like the matrix may not be that far fetched after all. I think David icke mentioned the same thing in one of he's videos about a stroke victim .
I think David is on Talk sport soon.

once you realize and individual experience is in the brain ....so if two people stood together experience the same stimulus from the senses have a similar experiences something that people call reality ....
what I believe is the technology alters the stimulus or add/alters that thus the TI has a slightly different experiences from the same shared reality

think if two people are stood side beside one had drugs/drunk ect the other did not they would interpret the same reality differently also there behavior would also be effect by the substance

unfortunate pulsed microwaves are not visible or tested for...and the victim only experiences the associated effect .also these effects being electronic induced and be controlled more

shadowbroker
02-03-2010, 10:05 PM
CIA's creation of crazy conspiracy artists!

Victim real or not. This forum is under attack, which proofs the CIA don't like what is posted on this site because it tells the truth.

cluas
03-03-2010, 10:41 AM
This has been my faveourite thread a long time now, Thanks Deca :cool:

deca
04-03-2010, 03:18 AM
This has been my faveourite thread a long time now, Thanks Deca :cool:

thanks :)


Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation Lets You Deactivate Selected Parts of Your Brain.

Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation is a process in which you run an electromagnet over parts of the brain, which essentially turns them off. You may have LOL'd at the idea of Kirsten Dunst and Mark Ruffalo erasing Jim Carrey's brain while dancing around in their underwear (in the Movie: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind) , but this brain altering technology is no joke. While effects don't appear to be permanent or long-standing, doctors and researchers think it could show how the brain recovers from traumas such as stroke. Though the technology might run a teensy-weensy risk of causing epilepsy, that's all. The video below shows grown men reciting nursery rhymes and turning into stuttering messes.


Deactivate ur Brain&#39;s Selected Parts, Use Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation !! - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtNPqCj-iA

i get the blinking eye trick a lot plus other motor cortex induced movements

i also believe that they can target people with "weak but complex" magnetic fields.....microwaves are part of the Em spectrum and have a magnetic field [so pulsing them will cause burst of magnetic fields - i belief not got the science to back this up yet ]

microwave is and electromagnetic wave
http://www.astronomynotes.com/light/emanim.gif

hope you can see how they could fire microwaves at a target generate weak but complex" magnetic fields and cause Dr persingers experiences ....sense of presences, mystical,alien abduction etc,mystical,spiritual ....
plus TMS type effects

deca
04-03-2010, 03:45 AM
sub-vocal speech, tehcnology

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgr7UxXso1c

normal when you don`t do what they say they give you a jab/shock twitch etc...

deca
04-03-2010, 03:52 AM
seeing with your brain
seeing with your brain - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsKxbCpkJs

I think i have mentioned this before ....brain candy:)
and the feeling of somebody stepping inside your body

deca
04-03-2010, 04:11 AM
A remote control that controls humans (English audio)
A remote control that controls humans (English audio) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0E9llkZIU

SHORT STORY: REMOTE CONTROL CAN USE ELECTRICAL IMPULSES TO CONTROL HUMAN
MOVEMENT

LONG STORY:
"Nippon Telegraph & Telephone Corp, a leading provider of telecommunications services in Japan, has developed a prototype of a device that controls the direction of human bipedal movement. A human subject wears a helmet which conducts a low voltage electrical current (eg, painless) into the balance guiding region inside the ear; which causes the head to tilt to the side of the head where electricity is applied. "NTT researchers say they were able to make a person walk along a route in the shape of a giant pretzel using this technique.""
source:

the perfect one
04-03-2010, 05:00 AM
Absolutely wonderful thread. I have to search this thread over better tomorrow. WOW -Thanks

the perfect one
04-03-2010, 05:18 AM
If you believe it is a technological phenomenon then it is a faceless phenomenon which follows no rules. You're fighting a machine.

If however, you remember that people have been hearing voices for thousands of years and in countries all over the world (Shamans don't use Tetra masts) then you realise that something 'bigger' could be going on..

The way you fight them is by realising your infinite spiritual power and strength. And remember that noone can hurt you without your consent on an etheric level (through fear) these are the rules they are obliged to follow.

Learn the rules they play by.. Read up on the Horus myrth and the castration of Set... It's just a myth sure, but it tells you how they operate. The power of evil is the power of illusion provoked by fear to become real.



Start living the life you want. The greatest illusion is that you are powerless. If they've got you tagged as a victim you're in their paradigm. Get out of it now. Everything that's holding you in that paradigm you need to get out of.


Yes you are correct Eldeweiss. NO FEAR. You can become more powerful then the bad guys with the NO FEAR attitude. I do believe their technology plays a role in it as well,but the main thing is to lose the fear. I get mad back at the bad guys and that's how I stay strong. If I am mad at them for what they have done then I am not the victim ,they are the losers. I come out victorious. I am lucky I have never heard or seen voices. I am lucky they could not trap me in their hell.NO FEAR.:) Also you are right ,people have been hearing voices for thousands of years.

deca
04-03-2010, 12:19 PM
Yes you are correct Eldeweiss. NO FEAR. You can become more powerful then the bad guys with the NO FEAR attitude. I do believe their technology plays a role in it as well,but the main thing is to lose the fear. I get mad back at the bad guys and that's how I stay strong. If I am mad at them for what they have done then I am not the victim ,they are the losers. I come out victorious. I am lucky I have never heard or seen voices. I am lucky they could not trap me in their hell.NO FEAR.:) Also you are right ,people have been hearing voices for thousands of years.

Yes fear limits your ability to think logically and A "victim mentality" all ways looking and thinking the worse does not help

I don`t think anyone here says that every voice hearer throw out time is via technology nor is it an explanation that before there was technology there was voice hearers so If you hear a voice now means its not done by technology sorry it does not work like that. What i claim is I am a victim of a microwave hearing effect via man made technology not that every person that hears or ever has heard a voice is from technology ok

Also note that Dr persingers Teutonic strain plate theory is based on natural forces also Microwave hearing effects can be caused naturally as-well

Michael Persinger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tectonic Strain Theory
Persinger has also come to public attention due to his 1975 Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) of how geophysical variables may correlate with sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Persinger argued that strain within the Earth's crust near seismic faults produces intense electromagnetic (EM) fields, creating bodies of light that some interpret as glowing UFOs. Alternatively, he argued that the EM fields generate hallucinations in the temporal lobe, based on images from popular culture, of alien craft, beings, communications, or creatures.

Microwave auditory effect
Microwave auditory effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Natural sources of electromagnetic perception

For centuries, humans have reported hearing unexplained noises in conjunction with meteors including "thunder-like sounds" at the scene of the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908. Astronomer Edmund Halley collected several such accounts after a widely-observed meteor burned up in the sky over England[2]. The Leonid meteor shower in November 2001 also led to many reports of observers hearing crackling or fizzing noises.[3] Similar observations have been reported by soldiers near the site of nuclear explosions.

Colin Keay, a physicist at the University of Newcastle in Australia, has advanced a hypothesis that purports to explain these phenomena. According to Keay's theory, meteor trails give off very low frequency (VLF) radio signals that the human ear cannot sense directly but are heard because a transducer on the ground must be converting the radio waves into sound waves. He has produced experiments that demonstrate that materials as commonplace as aluminum foil, thin wires, pine needles, and wire-framed glasses can act as suitable transducers.

Powerful VLF waves can induce physical vibrations in these objects, which are transmitted to the air as sound waves. Keay defines the field of geophysical electrophonics as "the production of audible noises of various kinds through direct conversion by transduction of very low frequency electromagnetic energy generated by a number of geophysical phenomena."[4] Some scientists state that electrophonic effects may also be caused by lightning strikes, very bright auroras, and earthquakes.[citation needed]

Electroreception has also been studied in the animal world. Ritz et al., in Biophysical Journal,[5] hypothesize that transduction of the Earth's geomagnetic field is responsible for the magnetoreception systems of birds. Specifically, they propose that this transduction may take place in a class of photoreceptors known as cryptochromes.

deca
04-03-2010, 12:35 PM
http://personal-development.com/articles/control-fear.htm

Control Fear
Written by Administrator



There is no such thing as fear.

How's that for a bold statement! Good, now I have your attention, let me explain myself.

There are various factors that can create fear and most people don't realize that fear itself is something that is totally internal to their own mind. It is not a real physical thing, you can't point to something and say, "That over there is fear, watch out or you'll trip over it". It is a product of our subconscious reactions to certain stimuli that is internal to ourselves, although it can certainly feel real enough when it creeps up on you. The good news is that since it is a by-product of our reactions to things, you have a number of options to deal with it or even remove it entirely. Once you are aware of the causes, you can control it and work with it and eventually remove it as a problem in your life.

Rudy Giuliani once said: Courage is not the absence of fear; rather it is the management of fear.

Fear is something that you can manage, control and in some cases remove entirely. I will point out though that some fears serve a useful purpose, for instance the fear of fire stops us putting our hand in the fire, the fear of getting run over stops us from running across a busy freeway. I am sure you can think of some other examples of where fear is a good thing to have, so common sense should prevail in your efforts to remove fear from your life.

When your fear level goes up your ability to think rationally trends downward to the point where you can act in ways inappropriate to the situation. Of course being afraid doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you since everyone feels afraid of a wide variety of things, but when fear takes over your life or becomes prevalent in situations where it isn't appropriate that is where you should take control. Learning to be in control of yourself is an important skill to learn and will serve you well all your life.

A lot of fears can be created by what we are thinking and the way we are thinking. You do have a choice about your thoughts since it's your brain and you can be in control of it. As I said earlier, fear can be useful and you can use it when you decide to use it and not when the subconscious chooses. If you walk around all day concentrating on your fears you are reinforcing those fears to yourself and is something to be aware of.

As I mentioned, sometimes fear can also help us to make the 'correct choices' for various situations since if we didn't fear the bad choices there would be no reason to stop choosing them. The important point though is to make a conscious decision about whether to be fearful in a situation or to allow the rational mind to make a choice amongst the possible solutions. Common sense will dictate your reaction. For example, if the reason you feel afraid is because of danger, get out of that situation as quickly as you can. Your safety is important, never neglect that.

To begin to control the fear you will need to examine it and see what it is that frightens you i.e. what component causes you to react in a fearful manner? Naturally when it happens, unless you are practiced at this, it will be difficult to examine your thoughts since you will have a mix of fear induced chemicals running through your body. Examining your thoughts as soon as possible after the event is necessary though. What is your fear and what aspect of your fear are you afraid of? What is it that frightens you the most? These are important questions you should ask yourself.

Sometimes our fears are rooted in something that has happened in our past. An event happened and our brains learned to be afraid of something. If this is so, then you need to find out what the event in the past was and examine it as rationally as you can. Is the fear even real or is it imagined? Our subconscious minds often can't recognize an event that is real from an event that was imagined or programmed into us by ourselves or someone else. For example, a parent can unknowingly program a child to be afraid of a range of things, either unwittingly or because the parent is afraid and through showing this fear to the child, transfers that fear. Who knows how many generations this fear can be transferred or in what manner. Try to understand where the fear comes from and that will be a major step towards regaining control of the fear.

Sometimes the fear is about something that is unlikely to happen and yet our brains tell us that it will and then the fear builds up inside of us. Examine the event and work out how unlikely it is to affect you. This occurs time and again and is most noticeable with the media and it's portrayal of events. They tend to focus on the negative images and reinforce our fears by retelling tragic events over and over again. The reason they do this is the business they are in, a business that needs to have people watching their programs and staying tuned so that their sponsors or advertisers have the opportunity to sell their wares. I have found that a lot of people aren't aware of the biases the media have when they portray a story although it's easy enough to watch out for once you are aware of it.

To control the fear you can do the following.

1. Do whatever is needed to prepare yourself for your fear. Often preparing for something that is fearful will help you to gain control over it since you are ready and able to handle it better.

2. Is there a way to desensitize yourself to your fear? Will repetition of the event make the fear go away?

3. Teach yourself to enjoy the task if it's sensible to do so. This can be done through using an assortment of positive reinforcement techniques. Repeating to yourself that the task is good for you, or reinforcing for yourself the benefits that facing the fear will bring. (This and No 1 are good for public speaking.)

4. Train yourself to acknowledge the fear and accept it for what it is, simply your mind telling your body that something concerns it. Repeatedly telling yourself that you are no longer concerned about it and not to be afraid will help you to believe.

Always be kind to yourself. Fear happens to everyone and you can choose to work with it and nullify its effects rather than let it take control. Don't be frustrated with yourself if you don't see the effects immediately since it can take time to resolve.

Fear can be controlled. Remove it's power to affect you and you remove the fear itself. Having the self-confidence to be able to handle situations will help you with other events as well. You will build up an ability to cope that you didn't know you had.

This technology works best by heighten/expanding your own fears/emotions and getting you to panic or otherwise inappropriately/over public react.

I think gangstalked TI`s have massive amount of Fear to live with...understanding the technology manipulating you, the fact that TI`s generally don`t get any physical attacked more of a psychological effect ,the effect of Fear on your mind .

when i was first attack the amount of fear on me was overwhelming plus I did not understand who/why how and what was going to hit me next I was on edge all day ....They made out that there were hundreds of local people involved ...every other car etc....(blighting effects ) etc....That was over 5 years ago....no car ever stop to attack me they just drive past , no local persons attacked me or even ask me about this ....I pretty sure the fear is worse than the actual I believe a lot of this is from the technology and the psylogical mind games they play on you via the tech.
Once you understand this technology alters your mental state and emotions ....puts you in surreal,hyper vigilant states etc... also plays into/heightens your fear and paranoia you start to see this from a different angle and regain your ability to act normal in public

klinker
04-03-2010, 12:43 PM
For the most part I reckon this is bullshit. What I do believe though is that this technology will be used against enemies of the state. People will be brainwashed into believing that this technology works and once that belief is in place then it's simply a matter of the 'state' scanning your brain and telling you that you are just about to commit a crime even though you are thinking of no such thing. Who's going to argue?

deca
04-03-2010, 12:55 PM
For the most part I reckon this is bullshit. What I do believe though is that this technology will be used against enemies of the state. People will be brainwashed into believing that this technology works and once that belief is in place then it's simply a matter of the 'state' scanning your brain and telling you that you are just about to commit a crime even though you are thinking of no such thing. Who's going to argue?

from what I believe and researched is they have this technology is in place...if you look at TI`s the people who claim to be victims of this and the ones exposing this are pretty evenly spread around this country and around the world ...one or two in most city's & towns ,its just not legal or not at a full admitted operational stage yet.

again you have to understand how they are testing this and developing it....if only perceived people that you would expect to be targeted from this (enemies of the state) start complaining it would give the victims a much stronger case rather than being covered up by a more pluasable belief of mental illness
Also these people are more high profile and in the media or hold some type of position or status

look they test stuff on there own troops , run biological test over there own city's

klinker
04-03-2010, 01:46 PM
from what I believe and researched is they have this technology is in place...if you look at TI`s the people who claim to be victims of this and the ones exposing this are pretty evenly spread around this country and around the world ...one or two in most city's & towns ,its just not legal or not at a full admitted operational stage yet.

again you have to understand how they are testing this and developing it....if only perceived people that you would expect to be targeted from this (enemies of the state) start complaining it would give the victims a much stronger case rather than being covered up by a more pluasable belief of mental illness
Also these people are more high profile and in the media or hold some type of position or status

look they test stuff on there own troops , run biological test over there own city's

Thx Deca. I'm aware that there are many ways our brains can be messed with but I was referring specifically to the brain scanning technology in the msm report. This is a technology I do not believe is real but will be used as if it is real for malignant purposes.

deca
04-03-2010, 02:08 PM
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5136/panouc.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/panouc.jpg/)

the total awareness grid

EU Plans Massive Surveillance Panopticon
Paul Joseph Watson | Prison Planet via Red Ice Creations 861 views
September 22, 2009
New incarnation of Echelon in the European Union is a huge lurch forward in the creation of the prison planet based on social theorist Jeremy Bentham’s 18th century concept of keeping slaves oppressed.


The European Union is developing a 21st century panopticon, a beast surveillance system that critics describe as “Orwellian,” “sinister,” and “positively chilling,” that would collate data from numerous sources, including surveillance cameras and personal computers, in order to detect “abnormal behavior” across the entire continent.

In a broader sense, this is part of the move towards creating a pan-European federal police force, where information and powers are shared as part of a centralized system. It is also a giant step towards the creation of a European CIA tasked not with keeping tabs on foreign enemies, but spying on its own population.

The surveillance system, known as Project Indect, promises to collect information by way of “continuous monitoring” of “web sites, discussion forums, usenet groups, file servers, p2p networks [and] individual computer systems”. It will also use CCTV feeds and other surveillance methods to develop models of “suspicious behavior” by analyzing the pitch of people’s voices (suggesting that private conversations will be recorded) as well as “the way their bodies move”.


Project Indect Goes for the All Seeing Eye Logo. Do you remember that “The Council of the European Union”, or Consilium, also took the All Seeing Eye as their Logo?
Its main objective will be the “automatic detection of threats and abnormal behavior or violence”.

This is Echelon on steroids, a new version of the decades old NSA-run program that has already been spying on citizens for years, updated and expanded for the technological applications of the early 21st century. In 1999, the Australian government admitted that they were part of an NSA-led global intercept and surveillance grid in alliance with the US and Britain that could listen to “every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission,” on the planet. Project Indect is merely a new incarnation of the same beast surveillance system.

Open Europe analyst Stephen Booth described the project as “Orwellian” and a “huge invasion of privacy,” noting that European citizens’ own taxes will go towards a program that treats them all as guilty until proven innocent.


Consilium = Conceal?
“Profiling whole populations instead of monitoring individual suspects is a sinister step in any society,” added Shami Chakrabarti, the director of human rights group Liberty. “It’s dangerous enough at national level, but on a Europe-wide scale the idea becomes positively chilling,” she said.

Project Indect is a huge lurch forward in the agenda to construct a mammoth surveillance pen within which the population of the entire planet is imprisoned.

The methods being employed to do this are a technologically advanced throwback to social theorist Jeremy Bentham’s 1785 concept of The Panopticon, a specially constructed prison building designed to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell whether they are being watched, thereby conveying what one architect has called the “sentiment of an invisible omniscience.”

Bentham described the Panopticon as “a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example.”

The notion that the individual does not know when they are being watched by the authorities is key in achieving the ultimate goal, to keep the population in a constant state of subjugation, unease and fear, leading them to self-regulate their own behavior.

According to Danish Institute for Human Rights researcher Peter Scharff, the Panopticon was intended to promote “self-regulation that was to be provoked by the constant surveillance”. The concept was eventually incorporated into many prisons that continue today as “podular” designs, which also maximizes the amount of people that can be controlled by one person. The fact that authorities are building societal prisons around us all today using the same basic methods of control is enough to send a chill down anyone’s spine and remind us once again that freedom is a myth.

This has nothing to do with catching criminals — as recent figures in the UK have proven, CCTV cameras have virtually no impact on crime whatsoever. This is all about letting the slaves know who their bosses are, it’s a psychological mind game set up to distinguish and reinforce the master-servant relationship between the state and the individual.

The endgame is to convince the individual that to express their freedom in public, to engage in any kind of protest or merely to question the power structure that surrounds them, is a “suspicious” act detrimental to society and that negative consequences will follow for any slave who dares to step outside of this invisible yet oppressive jail cell.

deca
04-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Thx Deca. I'm aware that there are many ways our brains can be messed with but I was referring specifically to the brain scanning technology in the msm report. This is a technology I do not believe is real but will be used as if it is real for malignant purposes.

well that up to you weather you believe MSM or not

deca
04-03-2010, 02:45 PM
ay up its not invented yet are kid:rolleyes:
http://isabeljoelyblack.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/coronation_street_rovers_return_inn.jpg

deca
05-03-2010, 02:27 AM
brainwashing,lying,propaganda, police state,big brother,mass murder/created disaster ,pushing the blame an`it going to solve the mess that humanity is in via bad government/leadership......even if it was a quick fix the same tossers would fuck up what would come next in fact they would be worse because they would feel/believe they could get away with anything...........

deca
05-03-2010, 07:49 PM
this tech can subvert your belief make you believe you have special powers ability's(borne identity,terminator etc..) but remember this tech like other tech can make you take the wrong turn if you rely and listen to it too much lead you into the shit stranded drowning,(like a GPS for cars)remember you are human ,flesh and blood, staying alive is the name of the game here.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/mercedes-sl500-425.jpg
http://artoftheiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/assisted-gps.jpg

remember the tech like sheep dogs can "physiological bark" to the left/right of you so you believe you are making the correct choice but really are walking straight into the holding pen just before going to the slaughter house

I ended up with a few kicking`s and in trouble with the police because of this electronic bullshit
got me pump up and in trouble then turned it off...wankers
i was like a sitting duck getting slapped about

deca
05-03-2010, 10:00 PM
some days i feel like a prisoner getting psychological torture,but not in the psychical prison like Guantanamo bay but remote via electronics....
And probably like most of the prisoners of Guantanamo bay i am innocent through somebody's else s balls up and political game...they need their idea of "bad guys" to justify all these terrorist claims,And they can`t seem to admit there mistake and crimes so I am caught also nobody whats to take this hot potato on.....they just hopes some how it will solve it self :mad:
http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/01/guantanamo2.jpg

I just think they will keep harassing me until i lose it or give up, I can`t see them having any other alternative

So that going to be me my life keeping my shit together and exposing these crimes against humanity and expose the abusive technology what else can I do

deca
05-03-2010, 10:09 PM
so we are being to see how the government is collecting massive of personal data and putting all kinds of technology to spy on their own people CCTV,email, phone calls,internet usage,web cams, satellite,GPS movements,RFID and CELLDAR what are they going to do with all this information?

Don`t say they are going to catch criminals, were are they going to put them? the jails are full? they can`t wait to release them these days!!!!
plus the government creating new crimes/laws every day


our country is going to look like "Stanford Prison Experiment" with scanners and CCTV and guard goons everywere US and Them mentality

http://rlv.zcache.com/panopticon_tshirt-p235315669740772344qw9y_400.jpg

shadowbroker
05-03-2010, 10:49 PM
What else can you expect when paying tax money to people that ram 3 planes into buildings. Then start kidnapping innocent people all over the world and torture them to death, even children. It's like a gangster betray his boss then blame others. And to fake his innocent start using extreme violence against his scapegoats.

Wtf can u expect!?!?

deca
05-03-2010, 11:06 PM
What else can you expect when paying tax money to people that ram 3 planes into buildings. Then start kidnapping innocent people all over the world and torture them to death, even children. It's like a gangster betray his boss then blame others. And to fake his innocent start using extreme violence against his scapegoats.

Wtf can u expect!?!?

its a right mess even the good guys have got them hands dirty and in a load of shit

deca
05-03-2010, 11:08 PM
anyway the better weather here.....Time to think about making some truther T shirts up hitting the beach and go out and meet people .....

might even get involved and go to local meetings and events see whats going on....

still have too do my help guide
some more podcasts and other media

got some good information now...plus people are seeing what police state & big brother society that's building up around us.....plus all the bankers loans etc.....and what a corrupt system it is

then more I overcome the "stereotype" image that they paint of mind control & electronic harassment and then one they try to psychological bash victims to ware the better

shadowbroker
05-03-2010, 11:39 PM
I was watching a documentary on the wtc from pilots for truth yesterday. The CIA, the white house and friends are caught over and over again.

deca
06-03-2010, 03:40 AM
Microwave Hearing
Microwave Hearing - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wpfOSGm0wc

deca
06-03-2010, 04:31 AM
Mind Control 1/6. That's Impossible

Mind Control 1/6. That&#39;s Impossible - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1TWa5hKp0

Mind Control 2/6. That's Impossible
Mind Control 2/6. That&#39;s Impossible - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmdUKc2L56s


Mind Control 3/6. That's Impossible
Mind Control 3/6. That&#39;s Impossible - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbB-BVGcuQw


Mind Control 4/6. That's Impossible.
Mind Control 4/6. That&#39;s Impossible. - YouTube
http:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YieywXI60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YieywXI60)

Mind Control 5/6. That's Impossible
Mind Control 5/6. That&#39;s Impossible - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVPV4oVF-44


Mind Control 6/6. That's Impossible.
Mind Control 6/6. That&#39;s Impossible. - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai0bu-ZJBUU

deca
06-03-2010, 04:54 AM
MK-Ultra - Mind Control

warning this has graphic images

MK-Ultra - Mind Control - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks398_KFJ6M

kimball13
06-03-2010, 07:10 AM
first saw a Dr Kipke's work posted on a darpa sight about a year back couldnt find it but hear ya go the wikipedia version







Chronic electrode implants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chronic Electrode Implants are electronic devices implanted into the brain. They may record electrical impulses in the brain or they may stimulate neurons with electrical impulses from an external source.



Clinical applications for brain computer interfaces (BCI)
The potential for neural interfacing technology to restore lost sensory or motor function is staggering; victims of paralysis due to peripheral nerve injury could achieve a full recovery by directly recording the output of their motor cortex, but the technology is immature and unreliable[1][2]. There are numerous examples in the literature of intra-cortical electrode recording used to a variety of ends that fail after a few weeks, a few months at best[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]. This document will review the current state of research into electrode failure, focusing on recording electrodes as opposed to stimulating electrodes.
[edit]Direction for development of Chronic BCI
Chronic brain-computer interfaces come in two varieties, stimulating and recording. Applications for stimulating interfaces include sensory prosthetics (cochlear implants, for example, are the most successful variety of sensory prosthetics) and deep brain stimulation therapies, while recording interfaces can be used for research applications[11] and to record the activity of speech or motor centers directly from the brain. In principle these systems are susceptible to the same tissue response that causes failure in implanted electrodes, but stimulating interfaces can overcome this problem by increasing signal strength. Recording electrodes, however, must rely on whatever signals are present where they are implanted, and cannot easily be made more sensitive.
Current implantable microelectrodes are unable to record single- or multi-unit activity reliably on a chronic scale. Lebedev & Nicolelis discuss in their 2006 review the specific needs for research in the field to truly improve the technology to the level of clinical implementation. In short, the 4 requirements outlined in their review are: 1) Consistent long term (over the course of years) recording of large neuronal populations residing in multiple brain areas; 2) Efficient computational processing of recorded data; 3) Incorporation of feedback into the user’s body image using native plasticity; 4) Advances in prosthetic technology to create artificial limbs capable of reproducing the full range of motion [12][13].
This review will focus on techniques pursued in the literature that are relevant to achieving the goal of consistent, long-term recordings. Research towards this end can be divided into two primary categories: characterizing the specific causes of recording failure, and techniques for preventing or delaying electrode failure.
[edit]Interaction between electrode and tissue

As mentioned above, if there is to be significant progress towards long-term implantable electrodes, an important step is documenting the response of living tissue to electrode implantation in both the acute and chronic timelines. It is ultimately this tissue response that causes electrodes to fail by encapsulating the electrode itself in a protective layer called a “glial scar,” (see 2.2). One serious impediment to understanding the tissue response is the lack of true standardization of implantation technique or of electrode materials. Common materials for electrode or probe construction include silicon, platinum, iridium, polyimide, ceramic, gold, as well as others [14][15][16][17][18][19][20]. In addition to the variety of materials used, electrodes are constructed in many different shapes[21], including planar shanks, simple uniform microwires, and probes that taper to a thin tip from a wider base. Implantable electrode research also employs many different techniques for surgically implanting the electrodes; the most critical differences are whether or not the implant is anchored across the skull[22] and the speed of insertion[23]. The overall observed tissue response is caused by a combination of the traumatic injury of electrode insertion and the persistent presence of a foreign body in the neural tissue.
[edit]Defining and minimizing acute term effects of electrode insertion
Damage caused by electrodes in the short term is caused by the insertion into the tissue. Consequently, research into minimizing this is focused on the geometry of the electrode and the proper technique for insertion. Short term effects of electrode insertion on surrounding tissue are documented extensively in Bjornsson et al. 2006[24]. They include cell death (both neuronal and glial), severed neuronal processes and blood vessels, mechanical tissue compression, and collection of debris resulting from cell death.
In the Bjornsson et al. 2006 study, an ex vivo apparatus was constructed explicitly to study the deformation of and damage to neural tissue during electrode insertion. Electrodes were constructed from silicon wafers to have three different sharpnesses (interior angle of 5o for sharp, 90o for medium, 150o for blunt). Insertion speed was also presented at three speeds, 2 mm/s, 0.5 mm/s, and 0.125 mm/s. Qualitative assessments of vascular damage were made by taking real-time images of electrodes being inserted into 500 um thick coronal brain slices. To facilitate direct visualization of vascular deformation, tissue was labeled with fluorescent dextran and microbeads before viewing. The fluorescent dextran filled the blood vessels, allowing initial geometry to be visualized along with any distortions or breakages. Fluorescent microbeads lodged throughout the tissue, providing discrete coordinates that aided in computerized calculations of strain and deformation. Analysis of the images prompted the division of tissue damage into 4 categories: 1) fluid displacement, 2) vessel rupture, 3) vessel severing, and 4) vessel dragging. Fluid displacement by device insertion frequently resulted in ruptured vessels. Severing and dragging were consistently present along the insertion track, but did not correlate with tip geometry. Rather, these features were correlated with insertion speed, being more prevalent at medium and slow insertion speeds. Faster insertion of sharp probes was the only condition resulting in no reported vascular damage.
[edit]Tissue response to chronic-term electrode implantation
When implanted in neural tissue in the long term, microelectrodes stimulate a sort of foreign body response, primarily effected by astrocytes and microglia. Each cell-type performs many functions in supporting healthy, uninjured neural tissue, and each is also ‘activated’ by injury related mechanisms that result in changes in morphology, expression profile, and function. Tissue response has also been shown to be greater in situation where the electrodes are anchored through the subject’s skull; the tethering forces aggravate the injury caused by the electrode’s insertion and sustain the tissue response[25].
One function taken on by microglia when activated is to cluster around foreign bodies and degrade them enzymatically. Weldon et al., 1998 proposes that when the foreign body cannot be degraded, as in the case of implanted electrodes whose material composition is resistant to such enzymatic dissolution, this ‘frustrated phagocytosis’ contributes to the failure of recordings, releasing necrotic substances into the immediate vicinity and contributing to cell death around the electrode [26].
Activated astrocytes form the major component of the encapsulating tissue that forms around implanted electrodes. “Current theories hold that glial encapsulation, i.e. gliosis, insulates the electrode from nearby neurons, thereby hindering diffusion and increasing impedance, extends the distance between the electrode and its nearest target neurons, or creates an inhibitory environment for neurite extension, thus repelling regenerating neural processes away from recording sites” [27][28]. Either activated astrocytes or buildup of cellular debris from cell death around the electrode would act to insulate the recording sites from other, active neurons[29]. Even very small increases in the separation between the electrode and local nerve population can insulate the electrode completely, as electrodes must be within 100 um to get a signal.
Another recent study addressing the problem of the tissue response is Biran et al., 2005[30]. Michigan-type electrodes (see article for detailed dimensions) were surgically inserted into the brains of Adult male Fischer 344 rats; a control population was treated with the same surgical procedures, but the electrode was implanted and immediately removed so that a comparison could be made between tissue response to acute injury and chronic presence. Animal subjects were sacrificed at 2 and 4 weeks after implantation to quantify the tissue response with histological and immunostaining techniques. Samples were stained for ED1 and GFAP presence. ED1+ reading is indicative of the presence of macrophages, and was observed in a densely packed region within approximately 50 um of the electrode surface. ED1+ cells were present at both 2 and 4 weeks after implantation, with no significant difference between the time points. Presence of GFAP indicates presence of reactive astrocytes, and was seen at 2 and 4 weeks after implantation, extending more than 500 um from the electrode surface. Stab controls showed signs of inflammation and reactive gliosis as well, however signals were significantly lower in intensity than those found in chronic test subjects, and diminished noticeably from 2 weeks to 4 weeks. This is strong evidence that glial scarring and the encapsulation, and eventual isolation, of implanted microelectrodes is primarily a result of chronic implantation, and not the acute injury.
[edit]Developing methods to alleviate chronic effects

Techniques for combating long-term failure of electrodes are understandably focused on disarming the foreign body response. This can most obviously be achieved by improving the biocompatibility of the electrode itself, thus reducing the tissue’s perception of the electrode as a foreign substance. As a result, much of the research towards alleviating the tissue response is focused on improved biocompatibility.
It is difficult to effectively evaluate progress towards improved electrode biocompatibility because of the variety of research in this field.
[edit]Improving biocompatibility of recording electrodes
This section loosely categorizes different approaches to improving biocompatibility seen in the literature. Descriptions of the research are limited to a brief summary of the theory and technique, not the results, which are presented in detail in the original publications. Thus far, no technique has achieved results drastic and sweeping enough to change the fact of the encapsulation response.
[edit]Biological coating
Research focusing on bioactive coatings to alleviate the tissue response is conducted primarily on silicon-based electrodes. Techniques include the following: storing anti-inflammatory neuropeptide α-MSH under a layer of nitrocellulose or within a nitrocellulose matrix to be released gradually into the local tissue post-implantation[31]; coating electrodes with alternating layers of polyethylimine (PEI) and laminin (LN), with the objective of the outer LN layer decreasing the tissue response by helping to disguise the electrode as native material [32][33]; coating electrodes with a conductive polymer film to improve electrical characteristics, overcoming the encapsulation barrier by increasing electrode sensitivity[34].
[edit]Protein functionalization
Another body of research dedicated to improving the biocompatibility of electrodes focuses on functionalizing the electrode surface with relevant protein sequences. Studies have demonstrated that surfaces functionalized with sequences taken from adhesive peptides will decrease cellular motility and support higher neuronal populations[35][36]. It has also been shown that peptides can be selected to specifically support neuronal growth or glial growth, and that peptides can be deposited in patterns to guide cellular outgrowth [37][38][39]. If populations of neurons can be induced to grow onto inserted electrodes, electrode failure should be minimized.
[edit]Electrode design
Kennedy’s research details the use of a glass cone electrode which contains a microwire built inside of it [40]. The microwire is used for recording, and the cone is filled with neurotrophic substances or neural tissue in order to promote growth of local neurons into the electrode to allow for recording. This approach overcomes tissue response by encouraging neurons to grow closer to recording surface.
[edit]Microfluid delivery
Some notable success has also been made in developing microfluid delivery mechanisms that could ostensibly deliver targeted pharmacological agents to electrode implantation sites to alleviate the tissue response[41].
[edit]Research tools being developed

Just as in other fields, some effort is devoted explicitly to the development of standardized research tools. The goal of these tools is to provide a powerful, objective way of analyzing the failure of chronic neural electrodes in order to improve the reliability of the technology.
One such effort describes the development of an in vitro model to study the tissue response phenomenon. Midbrains are surgically removed from day 14 Fischer 344 rats and grown in culture to create a confluent layer of neurons, microglia, and astrocytes. This confluent layer can be used to study the foreign body response by scrape-injury or depositing electrode microwires on the monolayer, fixing the culture at defined time points after insertion/injury and studying tissue response with histological methods[42].
Another research tool is a numerical model of the mechanical electrode-tissue interface. The goal of this model is not to detail the electrical or chemical characteristics of the interface, but the mechanical ones created by electrode-tissue adhesion, tethering forces, and strain mismatch. This model can be used to predict forces generated at the interface by electrodes of different material stiffnesses or geometries[43].
For studies requiring a massive quantity of identical electrodes, a bench-top technique has been demonstrated in the literature to use a silicon shape as a master to produce multiple copies out of polymeric materials via a PDMS intermediate. This is exceptionally useful for material studies or for labs who need a high volume of electrodes but can’t afford to buy them all[44].

bealert
07-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Some excellent video's deca..

bealert
07-03-2010, 12:17 PM
Microwave Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wpfOSGm0wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wpfOSGm0wc
Mind Control - YouTube

Deca here is a link to a longer version of the link you posted

deca
08-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Thanks

I been thinking weather this V2K microwave hearing effect is trying to keep me in some type of hypnotic trans
I know they have been trying to blast all my internal natural chatter out and replace it with theirs...plus stop me from talking to myself sub vocally

probably not the best video on it but I just started to look into this

Pendulum Hypnosis Induction Suggestibility Fun
Pendulum Hypnosis Induction Suggestibility Fun - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUrZBXIhDM

Deep down i no all the voices are from the same source and digitized but some have strong characters not all are nasty some come across as "protect" and "give good advice" think its so I begin to trust and relay on these

sort of good cop/bad cop idea ....obviously they do this almost 24/7 so can hit me when I most vurable i.e mentally or psychically busy/distracted or tried or falling of to sleep.

these voice don`t reflect anything that I personal believe in or any real person I have meet look up to and respect .

shadowbroker
09-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Timothy James McVeigh was an TI too.

deca
10-03-2010, 06:41 AM
Timothy James McVeigh was an TI too.

yes I believe he was, something that all victims should be aware off so they don`t get setup up or driven to do things they later regret

deca
10-03-2010, 07:01 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/483/screenshot024x.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/screenshot024x.png/)


National Worker RF Safety Crisis
National Worker RF Safety Crisis - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-FrpA9-zs

National Worker RF Safety Crisis - Part 2
National Worker RF Safety Crisis - Part 2 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2q9xjNC-o4

shadowbroker
10-03-2010, 07:31 AM
Are people suffering from electromagnetic hypersensitivity attacked by the Pinkertons (intelligence agencies) without being aware of it?

The tight connection between intelligence agencies, masons and corporations are well known.

Can it be that some wants to hide the dangers of electromagnetic radiation by making it seem like an mental illness or illusion?

deca
10-03-2010, 07:48 AM
I think the effects of EMF are well known ....i think that people can come electromagnetic hypersensitivity without being targeted .....electronic harassment is just fine tuning the effects of EMF and deliberately targeting individuals with microwave/non lethal weapons

deca
10-03-2010, 10:23 AM
one thing that we can do is sort out our own environment
i.e make as comfortable and easy and enjoyable to be in
so keep clutter to minimal, make it easy to keep clean and relaxing to be in.

(also remember we are visible so is our environment to friends/family social/mental health workers so our environment will be a indicator of our mental state and ability to look after our self etc..)

I think I have mentioned many times before music/Binary beats/relaxing cds/etc can be very effective.

I just picked up a home theater system surround sound (5.1) for forty pounds from a second hand shop well worth it :)

This gives me 6 speakers that i have placed around my room so now I sat surrounded submerged in sound , my favorite tunes !!!!

added bonus my modded xbox with a special lead has an optical digital out that plugs in to it so my games and media etc work too...

my xbox has a large hard drive on it....media player....and I can download movies music etc....from my PC to it and play it on my TV and surround system ....

Taking control of what you watch and listen to can make a big difference
especial if you suffer from media feed back etc....turn off your TV and listen to your own media and music etc....

So please look into improving your environment and look at your audio/visual equipment a few wise pounds spent can make a lot of difference


http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/ns225f-5-lg.jpg


XBMC Media Cente
http://www.8bitreview.com/blog/files/russ_XBMCMainScreen.jpg
XBMC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
XBMC Media Center (formerly named Xbox Media Center) is a free and open source cross-platform media player and home entertainment system software with a 10-foot user interface design for the living-room TV. Its graphical user interface allows the user to easily manage video, photos, podcasts, and music from a computer, optical disk, local network, and the internet using a remote control.[1][2][3]

ps I use a old xbox the are really cheap but (you need to get in chipped or softmoded load install media player on it) but if you have a old spare pc kicking about you can use it.
plus you can buy dedicated standalone media centers now as well

think PlayStation 3 and xbox 360 act as media centers now

revelator
11-03-2010, 08:25 PM
As a TI myself i can easily see how Tim Mcveigh was set up,wise words Deca,thankyou, to remind those of us targeted what are fates could be.

deca
12-03-2010, 05:52 AM
yep they can have you believing all sorts and distracted from real events on the ground so you have to try and not get setup or get subverted or twisted into doing things you later regret ..you might at the time think you are doing the right thing or something good when in fact you are not.

revelator
12-03-2010, 11:13 AM
I have been intensely,relentlessly targeted since Nov`2008 and the sensitisation they use on me i realised took years 3/4 years to set me up.They came very intense for me esp.their favoured technique where i was most vulnerable on a bus,train and their absolute no1 choice when at the airport or on a flight.Presently staying in a hotel they`ve got me just where they like me,usual tech harassment/torture mixed with old faces brought in to mess with me,they`re such masters of disguise!!

I`ve had my manipulated brushes with Police,i`ve had my spell in psych hospital albeit voluntarily obviously couldn`t reveal the truth of how i needed help ,else i`d still be in there heavy dosed up with anti-psychotics just where they`d like me and the b******s only further intensified their harassment when i was there.

So its looking like endgame have to be bold nothing to lose, except my life which they have made hell.You are a great inspiration to me Deca ,and when i pray this becomes common accepted knowlede that people are targeted and destroyed by methods that are utter evil,good brave people like you will get justice.For me i don`t expect to see that day but i will fight these B******ds to that bitter end,i have no plan just faith in God and survival.

bealert
12-03-2010, 11:29 AM
I have been intensely,relentlessly targeted since Nov`2008 and the sensitisation they use on me i realised took years 3/4 years to set me up.They came very intense for me esp.their favoured technique where i was most vulnerable on a bus,train and their absolute no1 choice when at the airport or on a flight.Presently staying in a hotel they`ve got me just where they like me,usual tech harassment/torture mixed with old faces brought in to mess with me,they`re such masters of disguise!!

I`ve had my manipulated brushes with Police,i`ve had my spell in psych hospital albeit voluntarily obviously couldn`t reveal the truth of how i needed help ,else i`d still be in there heavy dosed up with anti-psychotics just where they`d like me and the b******s only further intensified their harassment when i was there.

So its looking like endgame have to be bold nothing to lose, except my life which they have made hell.You are a great inspiration to me Deca ,and when i pray this becomes common accepted knowlede that people are targeted and destroyed by methods that are utter evil,good brave people like you will get justice.For me i don`t expect to see that day but i will fight these B******ds to that bitter end,i have no plan just faith in God and survival.
Really LOL ....If you fight it you will end up losing... Just enjoy what you have is the only way to beat them.

deca
15-03-2010, 04:12 AM
http://www.bioinitiative.org/
Appearing during the middle two hours, environmental consultant Cindy Sage discussed the dangerous health effects of electro-magnetic fields (ELF) radiating from a variety of sources. Of particular concern are the exponentially popular cell phones and cordless phones. Symptoms from ELF exposure include interrupted sleep, headaches, memory impairment, loss of concentration, dizziness, sinus problems and tinnitus. There is also the increased risk of brain tumors and cancer, she warned.

Many people may have a chronic low level exposure to ELF even if they aren't using equipment, through others' cell phones, wireless devices, and WIFI-- an "elecotromagnetic soup" that is kind of like second hand smoke, she explained. To reduce risk, use a corded phone or speaker phone, Sage suggested.

She also spoke about problems associated with EMF from power lines, such as increased risk of childhood leukemia. The cost of 'undergrounding' lines is insignificant compared to the health issues, she said, adding that more powerful transmission lines that aren't practical to place underground, should be built away from populations. In addition to the BioInitiative Report, she recommended the EMR Policy Institute as a good source for further information.



Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 1 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGoLledQoYE

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 2 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pSmGnIK8uU

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 3 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGh08vKMPxU

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 4 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aznDnjH9fHA

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 5 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3pNLFlALT8

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 6 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t65ykR21rJw

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 7 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4esGXjcrbY

Coast To Coast AM - ELF Dangers 8 of 8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mybnQRQTTkQ


Cindy Sage, environmental consultant, talks about The BioInitiative Report: A Rationale for a Biologically-based Public Exposure Standard for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF), which she editied with a team of international scientists.
They document serious scientific concerns about current limits regulating how much EMF is allowable from power lines, cell phones, and many other sources of EMF exposure in daily life.
The report concludes the existing standards for public safety are inadequate to protect public health.
Find out more at: www.bioinitiative.org

The BioInitiative Report - Biological Standards for Wireless
The BioInitiative Report - Biological Standards for Wireless - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tZDor-_co0


http://www.emrpolicy.org/

shadowbroker
15-03-2010, 12:14 PM
That Timothy McVeigh was a so called target individual is important. It shed lights on why the cia and central government are doing this.

First they wanted Timothy McVeigh to seem crazy.
Second they wanted Timothy McVeigh to accuse the government for something out of the ordinary, something hard to believe for the general public.

So the result is a crazy, dangerous conspiracy artist that's need to be dealt with.

Did you know that the white house see truthers and conspiracy artists as their greatest threats.

deca
17-03-2010, 08:09 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4957488170564398165#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4957488170564398165#

deca
17-03-2010, 08:35 AM
The Organizing Committee thanks the participants of the BioIniative
Working Group for their integrity and intellectual courage in dealing
with this controversial and important topic; and for devoting the time
and energy to produce their chapters. The information and
conclusions in each chapter are the responsibilities of the authors of
that chapter.
The Group has produced what the authors hope will be a benchmark
for good science and public health policy planning. It documents
bioeffects, adverse health effects and public health conclusions about
impacts of non-ionizing radiation (electromagnetic fields including
extremely-low frequency ELF-EMF and radiofrequency/microwave
or RF-EMF fields).

http://www.next-up.org/pdf/BioInitiativeReportComplete.pdf

bealert
17-03-2010, 01:37 PM
That Timothy McVeigh was a so called target individual is important. It shed lights on why the cia and central government are doing this.

First they wanted Timothy McVeigh to seem crazy.
Second they wanted Timothy McVeigh to accuse the government for something out of the ordinary, something hard to believe for the general public.

So the result is a crazy, dangerous conspiracy artist that's need to be dealt with.

Did you know that the white house see truthers and conspiracy artists as their greatest threats.
proof that reaction only brings attention to yourself

deca
20-03-2010, 12:54 AM
doing nothing is not a option , doing nothing and hoping they stop and go away is not a plan...sorry.
Keeping your life together ,protecting & educating yourself , finding ways to safely expose this ,working with others and finds ways to stop this is.


proof that reaction only brings attention to yourself

er they are targeting you with advanced technology...bombarding you with pulsed microwaves and non lethals and other types of physiology warfare weapons..we have their attention.
Its the battle on the ground that we need to win , change preconceived ideas about this type of technology and illegal use of it on TI`s

Matrix is a system
Matrix is a system - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQozTxQSiE

so the people in system what do they think of us?
Tin foil hat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A tin foil hat is a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of aluminium foil or similar material. Alternatively it may be a conventional hat lined with foil. Some people[who?] wear the hats in the belief that they act to shield the brain from such influences as electromagnetic fields, or against mind control and/or mind reading; they also serve to attempt to limit the transmission of voices directly into the brain.[citation needed]

The concept of wearing a tin foil hat for protection from such threats has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and persecutory delusions, and is associated with conspiracy theorists.
Origin of concept

The concept was mentioned in a science fiction story by Julian Huxley, "The Tissue-Culture King," first published in 1927.

Since then the belief has been associated with paranoia and conspiracy theories.[by whom?] The reasons for their use include the supposed prevention of perceived harassment from governments, spies or paranormal beings.[citation needed] These draw on the stereotypical images of mind control operating by ESP or technological means, like microwave radiation. The effectiveness of tin foil hats is disputable; however, the belief in their necessity is popularly associated with paranoia.[1]

not good is it
I don`t believe that tin foil works by the way thought I point that out


Are voices a symptom of illness or a variety of human experience?



Hearing voices can be a very disturbing experience, both for the person who hears voices and family and friends. Until recently voices were regarded as a symptom of a mental illness and not talked about because they are regarded as a socially stigmatising experience.



Hearing voices are still considered by clinical psychiatry as an auditory hallucination and as a symptom of conditions such as schizophrenic disorders, manic depression and psychosis. The usual treatment - major tranquillisers - are administered in order to reduce the delusions and hallucinations.



However, not everyone responds to this type of treatment. Psychiatrists, nurses and other professionals have been taught that there is not a lot an individual can do for themselves to cope with the voices. Indeed, in the past professionals were taught not to engage voice hearers about the content of their voice experience as this was thought to be "buying in" to the patients' delusions and not helpful. Most often professionals sought to distract the voice hearer from their voices.


It is difficult to explain what it is like to hear "voices", particularly if you have never heard voices yourself. However, the experience of hearing voices is not as alien an experience as it is generally thought to be.



Firstly, it may be the same as hearing a voice in the normal way through your ears, the difference being that the "voice" has no physical cause - but like normal voices, there is variety and every experience has its differences. You may think you have never experienced this, but are you sure? You may have had the experience of hearing someone call your name only to find that there is no one there.

first of all there's is evidence that some voice hears are actually hearing a voice from their ears their inner ears are active yet there is no audio voice via sound to others

Can this still hold true when there is microwave hearing effects and even technology to target an individual with it Medusa?
Also there is other technology like LRAD and audio spot light technology.

So unfortunately anyone that reports or seeks help from suddenly hearing an unexplained "voice" in side there head is considered having a audio hallucination and having mental illness even thou no test is done, only observation of the person to see if they meet the criteria of a mental illness by what they say and how they act .
Schizophrenia Symptoms and Diagnosis

There is currently no physical or lab test that can absolutely diagnose schizophrenia - a psychiatrist usually comes to the diagnosis based on clinical symptoms. What physical testing can do is rule out a lot of other conditions (seizure disorders, metabolic disorders, thyroid disfunction, brain tumor, street drug use, etc) that sometimes have similar symptoms.

Current research is evaluating possible physical diagnostic tests (such as a blood test for schizophrenia, special IQ tests for identifying schizophrenia, eye-tracking, brain imaging, 'smell tests', etc), but these are still in trial stages at only a few universities and companies and are not yet widely used. It will likely be a few years before these on the market, and adopted by hospitals, etc.

People diagnosed with schizophrenia usually experience a combination of positive (i.e. hallucinations, delusions, racing thoughts), negative (i.e. apathy, lack of emotion, poor or nonexistant social functioning), and cognitive (disorganized thoughts, difficulty concentrating and/or following instructions, difficulty completing tasks, memory problems). Please refer to the information available on this page (see below) for common signs and symptoms, as well as consumer/family stories of how they identified schizophrenia in their own experiences. However, only a psychiatrist can make a diagnosis and start a treatment program.
hmm what are the effects of EMF/microwaves...some of these sound very familiar more on this later
what can be some of these other indicators ?

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/mentalhealthandgrowingup/schizophrenia.aspx

What are the symptoms?

Schizophrenia affects everybody differently. There are two groups of symptoms, which are described as ‘positive’ and ‘negative’. This doesn’t mean some are good and some are bad; more that some are about ‘doing’ things or experiencing symptoms and some are about ‘not doing’ things (see below). Young people with schizophrenia often have a mixture of the two.



Sometimes, the illness develops slowly and can be hard to spot, although some young people become unwell very quickly.

*
Positive symptoms

Strange beliefs or delusions. These are beliefs that are not only untrue, but that can seem quite bizarre. The young person may believe that they are someone different, a world leader or celebrity for example, or they may believe that other people are ‘out to get them’. They will believe this is true no matter what you say.



Thought disorder. This is when someone is not thinking straight and it is hard to make sense of what they are saying. Their ideas may be jumbled up, but it is more than being muddled or confused.



Hallucinations. These are when someone sees, hears, smells or feels something that isn’t really there. The most common hallucination that people have is hearing voices. In schizophrenia, hallucinations are totally real to the person having them. This can be very frightening and can make them believe that they are being watched or picked on. People who are having these experiences may act strangely. For example, they may talk or laugh to themselves and appear as if talking to somebody that you can’t see.

*
Negative symptoms

The young person suffering from schizophrenia may become withdrawn and appear unemotional. They seem to lose interest, stop washing regularly or spend a lot of time on their own. They may not be able to carry on with their normal activities, and usually find it difficult to concentrate on work or study.



They may become frustrated and angry even towards their own family. Some may try to smoke or drink alcohol to feel better. Some young people find the symptoms so distressing that they may want to self harm. Despite how they are described in the media, people suffering from schizophrenia are not more dangerous or violent than anyone else. But they may come across as worrying and unpredictable, especially when they feel frightened by their strange experiences.

Thats good considering EMF are invisible and orderless :rolleyes:

I not diagnosed with but have been with psychosis and having mild psychotic episodes

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/mentalhealthandgrowingup/psychoticillnessyoungpeople.aspx
What is psychosis?
The term `psychosis' is used to describe when you lose touch with reality. Young people often worry that they may be `going mad' when they are feeling stressed, confused or very upset. In fact, feelings like these are rarely a sign of mental illness. Psychosis is usually much more severe and distressing.
How common is it?
Psychosis affects people of all ages, but becomes increasingly common as you reach the older teenage years.
What causes psychosis?
When you have a psychotic episode, it can be a signal of another underlying illness. You can have a 'psychotic breakdown' after a stressful event, like losing a close friend or relative. It can also be the result of a physical illness, like a severe infection, the use of drugs like cannabis, or a severe mental illness such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Sometimes, it is difficult to know what caused the illness.
How do I know if I have psychosis?
When you have psychosis, you may have unusual thoughts and experiences. They may appear suddently, making you feel really frightened, or they can creep in so gradually that only people like your close family and friends notice you are behaving strangely. You may experience one or more of the symptoms below:

Unusual beliefs called delusions. These very strong beliefs are obviously untrue to others, but not to you. For example, when you are ill, you may think that there is a plot to harm you, or that you are being spied on by the TV, or you have been taken over by aliens. Sometimes, you may feel you have special powers.

Thought disorder is when you cannot think straight. Your ideas may seem jumbled, but it is more than being muddled or confused. Other people will find it very difficult to follow what you say.

Unusual experiences called hallucinations are when you can see, hear, smell or feel something that isn't really there. The most common hallucination that people have is hearing voices.Hallucinations are very real to the person having them. This can be very frightening and can make you believe that you are being watched or picked on.

Having these strange thoughts and experiences can affect you at school, home or when with friends. You may find it difficult to concentrate and enjoy what you normally do. They can even affect your sleep and appetite.


So when a TI comes forward and reports these crimes against them is very difficult for them not to be view or believed to have some type of mental illness.
its a real catch 22

also its a vicious circle trying to expose this being classed and tared with a preconceived idea of being mental ill (there is no test,just observation- EMF is odorless/invisible- the effects/symptoms inside the human are not and can be viewed as symptoms of mental illness )

Also people that labeled as mental ill are viewed as an outcast and more likely victims of crime,ridicule, harassment etc....

deca
20-03-2010, 02:13 AM
so TI have to be aware of a few things

the effects/symptoms of EMF and these type of non lethal technology

how trying to expose this report this can get us labeled with a mental illness and negative reactions,crime ridicule etc...

Any sort of evidence EMF readings , documentation will be ignored and view as "propping" up our so called "delusional belief " and discouraged

And this is from the people supposedly their paid to help us or a preconceived idea others family,friends workmates the community at large will have.

so its a real shit situation that we find ourselves in:mad:

But there is hope there are others standing up and exposing this and not just from TI`s respected scientist and other credibly people.

plus they are admitting a lot more abut technology capable of doing this,
Plus others are seeing the big brother plans and technology being exposed

deca
20-03-2010, 02:32 AM
I suppose that a lot of TI`s fall into the trap of why me? and other 3rd party reading this would possibly believe if I had some valid reason to be targeted in the first place witch sounds reasonable how else can you tell if a TI is a victim or just mentally ill the symptoms are so similar.

but I don`t think its that easy , The answers are not with the victim of a crime? or the subject of an experimentation is it...The reason and motive are with the criminal and the scientist

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YTJBDUN8iSE/SD4rPISA1aI/AAAAAAAAAns/KG6HEJuBlMg/s400/monkeyrobot.jpg

is the above monkey with the thought controlled robotic arm that's been used for the last 5years special important or had a reason in its life before being experimented on a creditably reason to be used and have all this time and money spent on it?

Did the scientist build the lab and equipment and run these test because of the monkey ? or did they need a suitable monkey so they could do their experiment on !!! no monkey no test basically

You can hardly do mind control & test harassment technology with out somebody to test it on ..

The simple fact the these types of technology and experimentation are illegal and banned
they are operating "black" and covertly

Also think about this type of technology non lethal "compliance weapons " who is it going to be used on and where? Yes people in urban areas towns/city's where most of us live
its just a couple of steps up from CCTV with microphones on that we have in our town centers , body scanners some even with thought "intention" bio feedback type technology in our airports ,
urban RADAR (like CELLDAR) with non lethal targeting capability's

I sort of call this "Burke and Hare" testing and research method

profiling and using vulnerable people in the community that will not be believed or have a more plausible reason to onlookers than the one the victim gives

also the victim may also be deceived and believe a local situation/person(dispute ) they have had recently been in is behind their targeting this I believe adds confusion,misdirection, disinformation and make them falsely accuse and make allegations against or worse

deca
20-03-2010, 03:05 AM
the problem with this technology and how its been developed and tested and possibly used is its going to do more harm directly and indirectly than good , but that seems to be an afterthought to the people behind there total awareness control grid :mad:

bealert
20-03-2010, 10:20 AM
doing nothing is not a option , doing nothing and hoping they stop and go away is not a plan...sorry.
Keeping your life together ,protecting & educating yourself , finding ways to safely expose this ,working with others and finds ways to stop this is.




er they are targeting you with advanced technology...bombarding you with pulsed microwaves and non lethals and other types of physiology warfare weapons..we have their attention.
Its the battle on the ground that we need to win , change preconceived ideas about this type of technology and illegal use of it on TI`s

Matrix is a system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQozTxQSiEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQozTxQSiE

so the people in system what do they think of us?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat


not good is it
I don`t believe that tin foil works by the way thought I point that out







first of all there's is evidence that some voice hears are actually hearing a voice from their ears their inner ears are active yet there is no audio voice via sound to others

Can this still hold true when there is microwave hearing effects and even technology to target an individual with it Medusa?
Also there is other technology like LRAD and audio spot light technology.

So unfortunately anyone that reports or seeks help from suddenly hearing an unexplained "voice" in side there head is considered having a audio hallucination and having mental illness even thou no test is done, only observation of the person to see if they meet the criteria of a mental illness by what they say and how they act .

hmm what are the effects of EMF/microwaves...some of these sound very familiar more on this later
what can be some of these other indicators ?

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/mentalhealthandgrowingup/schizophrenia.aspx



Thats good considering EMF are invisible and orderless :rolleyes:

I not diagnosed with but have been with psychosis and having mild psychotic episodes

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/mentalhealthandgrowingup/psychoticillnessyoungpeople.aspx



So when a TI comes forward and reports these crimes against them is very difficult for them not to be view or believed to have some type of mental illness.
its a real catch 22

also its a vicious circle trying to expose this being classed and tared with a preconceived idea of being mental ill (there is no test,just observation- EMF is odorless/invisible- the effects/symptoms inside the human are not and can be viewed as symptoms of mental illness )

Also people that labeled as mental ill are viewed as an outcast and more likely victims of crime,ridicule, harassment etc....
yes of course protecting your own interests is a must but acting in a way which implies your mentally ill only helps there cause...such as trying to prove publicly things that cant be proved that also brings attention to yourself

deca
22-03-2010, 10:56 AM
Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [1/15] Electronic Harassment

Start at this link: FFWD to 8:48 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68cGYIcbp0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68cGYIcbp0Y

Practicing physician Dr. John Hall (author of A New Breed: Satellite Terrorism In America, also www.satweapons.com) discussed his work with thousands of victims of electronic harassment, stalking, and mind control and how CIA/NSA technology is being used to track, intimidate, and even read the thoughts of people. The technology, which can create voices in a person's head, simulates mental illness, leading many to think that victims are delusional, he explained. Yet the stalking component, common in many cases, is a clear sign that the harassment is not just in their head.

There are some methods to deflect attacks from directed energy weapons like particle beams, ultrasound, and laser, but audio harassment, such as communications beamed directly into the head via microwaves, and blanketed low frequency waves are harder to stop, he said. According to his intelligence contacts, the technology to enable these techniques comes from satellites, rather than someone on the ground.

Electronic harassment victims are about 70% female, who sometimes suffer from sexual assaults, he reported. In some cases, the victims have gotten on the wrong side of a large law firm, or private investigators are involved, yet Hall believes the harassment cases could be a form of government experimentation. He is calling for a congressional hearing to bring an end to this kind of harassment/experimentation and recommends that victims contact the organization Freedom from Covert Harassment & Surveillance. Interestingly, James Walbert recently won a court case in which his former business associate was ordered to stop using "electronic means" to harass him.


Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [2/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBltXU4UxQ

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [3/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsaT7uYUWr4

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [4/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2X1lWN09I

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [6/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFYXjn71sM

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [7/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcarjL6W2U

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [8/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5049ZI2qVQ


Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [9/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wQAGUZo0s

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [10/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZfFYRroiQ

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [11/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7EtHzCLqs

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [12/15] Electronic Harassment
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zrfLNTdMQ

bealert
23-03-2010, 11:34 AM
Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [1/15] Electronic Harassment




Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [2/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBltXU4UxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBltXU4UxQ

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [3/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsaT7uYUWr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsaT7uYUWr4

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [4/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2X1lWN09I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2X1lWN09I

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [6/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFYXjn71sM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFYXjn71sM

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [7/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcarjL6W2U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcarjL6W2U

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [8/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5049ZI2qVQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5049ZI2qVQ


Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [9/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wQAGUZo0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wQAGUZo0s

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [10/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZfFYRroiQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZfFYRroiQ

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [11/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7EtHzCLqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7EtHzCLqs

Coast to Coast AM 2/8/2010 [12/15] Electronic Harassment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zrfLNTdMQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zrfLNTdMQ
Good video's ..ill get he's book from the library.

deca
26-03-2010, 03:26 PM
can`t believe what shit people believe in this day an age

most of this is keep their control over others

why not admit all your natzi tech all so powerful ones????

deca
28-03-2010, 09:29 AM
Compliance Weapons: One Step Closer to a Police State?
Compliance Weapons: One Step Closer to a Police State? - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVJwGY07muM

While proponents claim that non-lethal compliance weapons such as the LED Incapacitator are more humane, John Whitehead argues in this week's vodcast that such weaponry could actually lead to a governmental system of coercion that would render our First Amendment rights useless.


The Ray Gun In Action (CBS News)
Watch as David Martin gets zapped by a ray gun - a non-lethal weapon that could be used to disperse crowds and could save many lives in war zones. Martin's report airs Sunday, March 2, on 60 Minutes.
The Ray Gun In Action (CBS News) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1w4g2vr7B4


PAIN RAY GOING AIRBORNE
http://defensetech.org/2004/11/16/pain-ray-going-airborne/
It was only a matter of time, I guess. First, the Air Force builds a real-life, microwave-like pain ray. Then, it gets a company to strap that real-life, microwave-like pain ray to the back of a jet.
For years, the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) has been working on a millimeter-wave beam that penetrates a 64th of an inch beneath the skin. That causes the water molecules there to bubble. And that hurts like hell; people tend to run — fast — in the other direction. Small wonder, then, that non-lethal weapons experts call this “Active Denial System” the “holy grail of crowd control.“
Active Denial been tested on people a bunch of times. A Humvee-mounted prototype is about to start undergoing trials. And now, Active Denial is going airborne.
AFRL handed Palo Alto’s Communications & Power Industries a four year, $7 million contract, according to the Hilltop Times — the in-house paper of Hill Air Force Base.

Dr. Diana Loree, the project officer for Active Denial, said four AFRL directorates are involved in developing this airborne capability: directed energy here; propulsion and vehicles at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio; and human effectiveness at Brooks City-Base, Texas.
Experts from directed energy, as the lead directorate, focuses on the systems engineering and radiating system development, she said. Propulsion directorate experts focus on the airborne power generation and conditioning required for the radiating system. Vehicles directorate scientists and engineers put their efforts toward Active Denial’s thermal management and aircraft integration issues while human effectiveness experts focus on biological effects research.

deca
28-03-2010, 12:02 PM
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3746/diagramxnt.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/diagramxnt.jpg/)

Came across this digram and thought it might help understand a few things

lets face it when we are first targeted we have very little knowledge about what happens to us , so we base on what happning to us on past experence or knowledege.

Perception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This problem stems from the fact that humans are unable to understand new information, without the inherent bias of their previous knowledge. A person’s knowledge creates his or her reality as much as the truth, because the human mind can only contemplate that to which it has been exposed. When objects are viewed without understanding, the mind will try to reach for something that it already recognizes, in order to process what it is viewing. That which most closely relates to the unfamiliar from our past experiences, makes up what we see when we look at things that we don’t comprehend.[5]

This confusing ambiguity of perception is exploited in human technologies such as camouflage, and also in biological mimicry, for example by Peacock butterflies, whose wings bear eye markings that birds respond to as though they were the eyes of a dangerous predator.

Its only as we learn and experence more we build hopefully and better understanding of whats happning
i.e documents,information basied on the scietific method

So the less "scietific method" and unbiased information we have the more fuzzy our perception is of whats happning to us.

And lets face it we were all in that boat we we first got hit

engelsblume
29-03-2010, 11:07 AM
Appearing during the middle two hours, environmental consultant Cindy Sage discussed the dangerous health effects of electro-magnetic fields (ELF) radiating from a variety of sources. Of particular concern are the exponentially popular cell phones and cordless phones. Symptoms from ELF exposure include interrupted sleep, headaches, memory impairment, loss of concentration, dizziness, sinus problems and tinnitus. There is also the increased risk of brain tumors and cancer, she warned

Cell phones seem to be the only thing I always keep seeing in connection with the ELF and how dangerous it all is. But aren't computers just as dangerous? Or is noone mentioning them because most of the people are completely addicted to escaping reality and going online?
It's just weird how I never see computers mentioned as a source of dangerous radiation. :confused: Why is that?

deca
30-03-2010, 07:43 AM
Cell phones seem to be the only thing I always keep seeing in connection with the ELF and how dangerous it all is. But aren't computers just as dangerous? Or is noone mentioning them because most of the people are completely addicted to escaping reality and going online?
It's just weird how I never see computers mentioned as a source of dangerous radiation. :confused: Why is that?

computer does not emit alot of EMF/ELF ....the monitor is a different story its emitts alot normal to the side and rear , front also so be carfull were you plase these not sure about LCD or others i just tested a old CRT
also Wi FI again amits 2.4 the same frequences as a microwave oven and its pulsed

wdavidb
30-03-2010, 08:30 AM
There seems to be some naive ideas about mind control and machine to brain communication.

The cosmic field in which you exist is the medium of transit for machine to brain and you have little or no control over it. And the operator has to be local as there is a limitation to distance, roughly 1500 meters.

Mind control, as it is applied by intelligence ops is not something you choose to accept or reject. You do what you are told to do and you do it to the best of your ability, without question. If someone is in fact a victim of modern mind control they have no choice in the matter and they don't consciously know they are a mind control victim.

Modern mind control is virtually fool proof and fail safe up to the point the subject is no longer needed or required, at which point they might be scrambled whereby triggering the suicide programming for which they have been trained to respond.

It's not a game of chance or choice, it's very nasty and very real.

deca
30-03-2010, 08:49 AM
There seems to be some naive ideas about mind control and machine to brain communication.

The cosmic field in which you exist is the medium of transit for machine to brain and you have little or no control over it. And the operator has to be local as there is a limitation to distance, roughly 1500 meters.

Mind control, as it is applied by intelligence ops is not something you choose to accept or reject. You do what you are told to do and you do it to the best of your ability, without question. If someone is in fact a victim of modern mind control they have no choice in the matter and they don't consciously know they are a mind control victim.

Modern mind control is virtually fool proof and fail safe up to the point the subject is no longer needed or required, at which point they might be scrambled whereby triggering the suicide programming for which they have been trained to respond.

It's not a game of chance or choice, it's very nasty and very real.

First of all it would be pretty silly deveopling a brian computer iterface just to make somebody suicidal , they could just blast them with pulsed microwaves ,broadcasts distrubing voices and depressing/suicidal frequences
your 1500 meter sounds like what a civy scietest could do with 1-3 years work and small budget:rolleyes:

probadly what these dudes have already done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm
Scientists have developed a sensor that can record brainwaves without the need for electrodes to be inserted into the brain or even placed on the scalp.

They believe the new sensor will lead to major advances in the collection and display of electrical information from the brain - and could even be used to control machines in a more effective way than is currently possible.

deca
30-03-2010, 09:02 AM
you are right about the medium
http://www.whale.to/b/persinger_h.html
Dr Persinger wrote an article a few years ago, titled "On the Possibility of Directly Accessing Every Human Brain by Electromagnetic Induction of Fundamental Algorithms". The abstract reads:
"Contemporary neuroscience suggests the existence of fundamental algorithms by which all sensory transduction is translated into an intrinsic, brain-specific code. Direct stimulation of these codes within the human temporal or limbic cortices by applied electromagnetic patterns may require energy levels which are within the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary communication networks. A process which is coupled to the narrow band of brain temperature could allow all normal human brains to be. affected by a subharmonic whose frequency range at about 10 Hz would only vary by 0. 1 Hz."
He concludes the article with this:
"Within the last two decades a potential has emerged which was improbable, but which is now marginally feasible. This potential is the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of the approximately six billion brains of the human species, without mediation through classical sensory modalities, by generating neural information within a physical medium within which all members of the species are immersed.
"The historical emergence of such possibilities, which have ranged from gunpowder to atomic fission, have resulted in major changes in the social evolution that occurred inordinately quickly after the implementation. Reduction of the risk of the inappropriate application of these technologies requires the continued and open discussion of their realistic feasibility and implications within the scientific and public domain."
It doesn't get any plainer than that. And we do not have open discussion because the US Government has totally denied the existence of this technology.

http://www.whale.to/b/persinger.html

bealert
30-03-2010, 12:07 PM
I think you have mentioned this before but it seems to be some sort of behaviour modification program based on fear of response because of the consequences.

I often hear the people down stairs to me in flat B often describe what i am doing in detail, sometimes telling the truth and sometimes lying..for what purpose I wonder?

deca
30-03-2010, 12:15 PM
i would stop listning too them but some background music on , don`t get obossed with them , you will end up get into a Confrontation with them, whos going to be carted off?

I believe its the tech tricking you, they tried this on me i was lucky and did not get sucker into this , and now I know it was the tech

but if you still want to believe they are involved then I would ignore it as it will make what they are trying usless ether way.

playing background music and being more intrested in/focusing on what you are doing rather than others,or what you believe they are doing will overcome this
weather its the tech fooling you or they are preps then not reacting will beat them ether way


don`t get obbsed glass to the wall, peeping out the window every time they come and go...you will start thinking alsorts...I have seen this happend to somebody else....I even tryed to record what they believe they were hearing I didn`t hear it, it was not on the tape but the victim sweard there was alsorts going on next door.


look i have been there stressed out in my house , living from bump to greek , from niebours , postmen rattling the letters in , cars vibrating past, sirens ,horns ect....Think i was in shock living from one externaly event to another.
at one point they blow me totally I thought every thing was staged and I was in the truman show...I even climbed up into my loft looking for hidden camras/wires and was going to kick out my roof ect...

This puts you into some surreal mental states

I evently relised that most people are predictable it was something happning to me not to every one else, I was out of synic with every one else ,I was then one getting the extra sythtic stimultion super imposed over the shared reality around me, and it was not doing me a favor

I have also believed that people were breaken in my house while I was out moving hiding stuff, It got so bad I started go to the shop then changing my mind the running back to my house and see if I could catch them at it , never did , I know relise that its me having my keys in my hands and being distracted,stressed out having memory loss and putting them in the wrong place ect....
EMF can do this

deca
30-03-2010, 12:46 PM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/483/screenshot024x.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/screenshot024x.png/)

They realy have loads of tricks up there sleeves

deca
30-03-2010, 12:59 PM
I was effected by car blighting thats when cars seemigly flicker there head lights ....gangstalking sites try to tell you thats stalkers drive around looking for targets, I fell for this a few times but relised that the cars never stop, its sometype of side effect the effects your vision, you might allso find florecents lighting irritating

also felt fowlled and spy while I was walking about.....sort felt close and that everything was timed around me , plus I was in a hyperviglent state noticed every moventment by others some peoples action seemed slow and undully grab may attiontion ect...

I was just one night flicking through the channels on the TV and came across a ghost hunting program and they were talking about EMF and how it can make you feel watched and uneasy....I just clicked and relised that alot of this is dew to the effects of EMF...they just turn it up when you are out and about ect.....

bealert
30-03-2010, 04:05 PM
i would stop listning too them but some background music on , don`t get obossed with them , you will end up get into a Confrontation with them, whos going to be carted off?

I believe its the tech tricking you, they tried this on me i was lucky and did not get sucker into this , and now I know it was the tech

but if you still want to believe they are involved then I would ignore it as it will make what they are trying usless ether way.

playing background music and being more intrested in/focusing on what you are doing rather than others,or what you believe they are doing will overcome this
weather its the tech fooling you or they are preps then not reacting will beat them ether way


don`t get obbsed glass to the wall, peeping out the window every time they come and go...you will start thinking alsorts...I have seen this happend to somebody else....I even tryed to record what they believe they were hearing I didn`t hear it, it was not on the tape but the victim sweard there was alsorts going on next door.


look i have been there stressed out in my house , living from bump to greek , from niebours , postmen rattling the letters in , cars vibrating past, sirens ,horns ect....Think i was in shock living from one externaly event to another.
at one point they blow me totally I thought every thing was staged and I was in the truman show...I even climbed up into my loft looking for hidden camras/wires and was going to kick out my roof ect...

This puts you into some surreal mental states

I evently relised that most people are predictable it was something happning to me not to every one else, I was out of synic with every one else ,I was then one getting the extra sythtic stimultion super imposed over the shared reality around me, and it was not doing me a favor

I have also believed that people were breaken in my house while I was out moving hiding stuff, It got so bad I started go to the shop then changing my mind the running back to my house and see if I could catch them at it , never did , I know relise that its me having my keys in my hands and being distracted,stressed out having memory loss and putting them in the wrong place ect....
EMF can do this
its amazing how many things you write about that happen to me....perhaps this tech is designed to effect all of us with the same effects at the same time to create paranoia between ti's for those that wish to talk about it.

wdavidb
31-03-2010, 10:13 AM
First of all it would be pretty silly deveopling a brian computer iterface just to make somebody suicidal , they could just blast them with pulsed microwaves ,broadcasts distrubing voices and depressing/suicidal frequences
your 1500 meter sounds like what a civy scietest could do with 1-3 years work and small budget:rolleyes:

probadly what these dudes have already done
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm

A classic suicide is not desirable, it must appear as a tragic accident.

You are getting most of your information off the web while anything of any real importance remains highly classified and under lock and key.

225 pages of this and you still don't get it. If you are a victim of mind control you have no defense. And if you simply think you are a victim of mind control, which is not the same as machine to brain communication, you would not know about it consciously. Just thinking you are is just thinking odd thoughts and nothing more.

Machine to brain communication requires a clear line of sight to the target. And 1500 meters is a long distance to target a subject. The rest of it is fantasy.

Mass mind control is simply a theory in terms of a machine to control the minds of the masses, it is being worked on but without any real success to date.

big b
31-03-2010, 10:23 AM
The people who control your brain intends to screwup your peace and happiness. Don't let them succeed in their plans and intentions. Don't resist and fight too much. Just relax. I am a mind control victim since more than 15 years. If you get unhappy they will be happy. If you are depressed they will be more happy and continue their torture and so-called experiments.

Let Peace Prevail.

deca
31-03-2010, 10:40 AM
A classic suicide is not desirable, it must appear as a tragic accident.

You are getting most of your information off the web while anything of any real importance remains highly classified and under lock and key.

225 pages of this and you still don't get it. If you are a victim of mind control you have no defense. And if you simply think you are a victim of mind control, which is not the same as machine to brain communication, you would not know about it consciously. Just thinking you are is just thinking odd thoughts and nothing more.

Machine to brain communication requires a clear line of sight to the target. And 1500 meters is a long distance to target a subject. The rest of it is fantasy.

Mass mind control is simply a theory in terms of a machine to control the minds of the masses, it is being worked on but without any real success to date.

and you evidence is?

I have a list of over a thousand wittness testomines to ague differently :rolleyes:


A classic suicide is not desirable, it must appear as a tragic accident.
think this was done in the 80`s called marconi suicides, you are well behind the miltray complex
http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/sdi-deaths.html

clear line of sight to the target.
thats crap plus how do people view brain activity? the electricaly activity(evoked potentials) which can be detected throw walls ect....
how would it need to be in line of sight?
does my mobile phone need to be "in line of sight" of a tower? to make a 2way phone call

deca
31-03-2010, 11:04 AM
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/39957/Don_t_Think_Mind_Control_Is_Real___Watch_This/

obviouly he is broadcasting this through the speaker system , but could be used via LRAD,microwave hearing effect , audio spot light and there various silent sound devices as well

"One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them."

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Defense Viewpoint, December 1, 1998
obviously hes talking porkies than?:rolleyes:

and yes I do get my information of the net to back up my cliams....how else can I make them credabily ....you could just say they were just thinking odd thoughts or mental illness.... different story when TI`s have scientific proof thats admits its possible

deca
31-03-2010, 11:21 AM
a lot of TI`s and others suspect alien abuctions/encounters are done with simliar tech ....20 odd years or more ago it was lone people in isolated areas getting abducted ....now people are having these experences in there beds?
can you explian this.....I can

iscovery - ultrascience - info war, mind control - clip2 - 1997
ultrascience @ mind control 2/2 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaAtE9PbbgM

this was broadcasted in 1997/8