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chicken
28-07-2007, 10:49 AM
Starting a little way back!! "Eternal Spirit" - no we are not crazy:) There is probably more to come!

You see I am very intuitive AND have had to be thoughtful and sensitive to people in my past job and life as I was a teacher.

Though this did not help me when I entered the world of a TI.

I am very observant - trying to explain that to a psychiatrist is a difficult one. I was a creative bod too - meaning that I made small things in my line of sight appear more important i.e, the colour of a flower, or the surface of a leaf, or the shape off a dried alium. It works both ways. Pdocs - well once you meet one - trying to get him/her to undersatand is a nightmare. I decided the best thing to do was keep quiet in the end.

I read people very well - 80% is body language, coupled with 20% with what you say. On that bases then I can tell if I am being gang stalked or not. It is obvious - jut explaining it is more difficult.

However - the woman pulled a fast one - its called "rapport" - covering her real intent. Its a NLP thing (Neuro Linguistic Programming) used in cults to recruit

Again - my mother is the greatest woman on earth - she listens and has not been brought into my world - she understands my plight and will always understand it. We need more like her.

Can people be manipulated down the phone - by magnetic waves? Someone wrote to me that the people around you can also be manipulated. My father was got at. Now who is next? At the end of the day - it is to get at me and create my demise.

This is going to sound mad - but one thing has crossed my mind? Am I giving off waves myself so that people treat me differently. I am not totally my normal self - but do engage in conversations and will and can act normally. I am just quieter and even more observant!

The perpertrators always wanted me to stick to one theory.It did not matter which one as it always ended up as my fault and I had to leave my home and family,And I would have to do what they say or kill myself.

Yes - deca. That theory does stick to you - from what you are saying. I have something similiar. I get attacked in the feet - this is a message to bugger off. I am always attacked there. It is supposed to be a weak spot - so go for the victims insecruities. I am also attacked in the hands too - especially wedding hand.

I wish I had not been caught out and ending up in a mental unit - I now have this stigma. I am sorry if anybody out there has been in a unit. I don't want to appear a right stuffy..........Anyway its just well you know, a right &%@£*.... I now have a record if you like it is like having a criminal record - can't shake it off. People will make assumptions about you. I hope I don't add to it.

I hope that you non TI`s out there have read this and took note,
You might think we are crazy, or mentally ill or just disbelieve what we say or laugh at us. But a least you have read some of this.

He is right - it is a difficult thing to carry around with you. We are not crazy - not one inch. Unfortunately persuading the general public will be difficult. However we need a mass slam and run at it. To make people aware of it.

What we need is a campaign to raise awareness in the UK. I was told not to go to the press - so that rules me out - if I believe that notion - remember thats a threat - I could fall over and it would look natural -"heart attack" I would not like to test it.

Gaining Evidence and Credibility
Evidence is particularly important when we are uncertain. In these situations we go into an 'evidence-seeking' mode, where everything is questioned.
This is used in social situations when we do not know what to do we often look at other people to see what they are doing.
Modeling
If I want you to behave in some way, then if I act that way, I am providing you with social evidence. This is used by leaders, from wartime ministers displaying faith and courage to business leaders who embody new values and working practices.
Strength
Evidence can be weak or strong and its credibility may depend on its source and medium. If the evidence can be doubted or ignored then it will have less strength.

A person asserting they have this phenomena
A newspaper report on electronic harassment + gang stalking (seperately or together)
Photos in the newspaper + victims accounts
A national radio broadcast
A broadcast by an acknowledged expert
TV footage of individuals - protest?
TV footage of the equipment + demonstrations of said equipment
Scientist reports
Military reports - verbal as well as written

Legal evidence
The legal system makes great use of evidence, testing each item and determining if there is a good case. It is played out in a court where hard evidence is the major player, and opinions, even of experts, are of secondary importance.
Disconfirmation is critical and one strong piece evidence can swing an entire case.
Scientific evidence
Science, even more than legislation, is based on objective and measurable evidence. A hypothesis is put forward to explain a phenomenon and then both confirming and disconfirming evidence is sought in a wide range of situations (thus showing where the theory does and does not work).
Government reports + history of abuse. Worldwide evidence

Well thats the way to go is it not? George Furquar in Uk did loads a few years ago - chaining himself to the railings

You and chicken have a good dialogue going on, both of you are not crazy, it's interesting reading, your just telling what you've experienced and theres no way I think you're making it up.


I hope you don't mind me saying - "thanks for the kind words" - we are not making it up - no! not all - if anybody thinks we are delusional - they are welcome to that thought. I have the utmost respect for all those other TI's going through this.

Like Deca I knew nothing about this - My world centred around other things. I hope to get back to doing what I was doing before all this even for a short time. My work is due to come out in a book shortly. Which I am pleased about. How can you - concentrate with all this shit going on.

Electronic Harassment and gang stalking - yep not nice this. Slavery it is. Mind control and an infringement on your civil liberties.

Deca - my mind is not really being manipulated as such it is the physical at the moment. I am sure they will go for me again - with regards to the mind. This will make my case even more difficult to deal with won't it.

the amount of actual physical "gang stalking" that you are experiencing I find hard to believe

well - this is what it is all about - put the two together. It is extreme. I am actually quite a strong person and this is all over the top to really make me loose it. If only I were dreaming! I will not let them destroy my spirit and will try to keep my sense of humour though I have lost it on occasion.

Sorry you have to believe it - what comes out of my mouth is only the truth. I was told it was a large cult organisation. UK and the world - mainly America, this is where it is based. I can tell you only what I was told - that aspect is obviously open to interpretation. However if the groups name is used openly it still does not mean I believe that belief laden statement. One will never know? However it is still a crime - to do this to someone.

I am under no illusions as I get the picture. I will still fight for what I believe in. As me mother said think twice before you do it. As I mentioned as well - my mind is read this could be an interesting one - it is bound to fail then. I cannot do everything on a whim.

The aim is to be with family who will support you - last thing is for them to be exposed is it too. But the bad guys - its gotta catch up with them sometime has it not. Someone will make such a mistake and it will be caught on camera or digital recorder.

Chicken

deca
28-07-2007, 01:35 PM
chicken I do believe you are being open and honest.

Then "gang stalking" seems to effect you in a big way.I from what you have told me is that they use suttle means to let you now they are stalking you but not enough to prove it or report it,But this is impacting on your life,fearing to go out,not trusting anybody in the community and the frustration of not being able to prove it or another people seeing it as well.

Now I would try an ignore it,dont let it get to you, just think how much time,money they are wasting and silly they are acting.I am pretty sure that they will change tactics if its not impacting on you life the way they want it. I don`t think they will use stronger measure in the gang stalking means as you can get proof if they do and do the stalker for harassment.If the stalkers are silly they will start acting over the top and it will be noticeable.
I would also try and not talk about "gang stalking" but change it and say look
at that odd behavior, this will take it off your back and pin it on to the stalker
But I would only do this if it was over the top. I used to work in bars there
are a lot of odd strange weirdos out there anyway.
A lot of this is physiological so you have to use physiology back at them.

You are acting normal and have the logical reaction.You have to relies this
to overcome it and start to reverse this.Once you change tactic the perpertrators start making mistakes and you give them more work. Try not to play there game there way.

They are sneaky and persistence but they are human as well.

deca
28-07-2007, 02:58 PM
Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Discovery Channel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg716ODKuJQ&mode=related&search=

deca
28-07-2007, 04:04 PM
Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 1, LSD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpNQygWaTv4&mode=related&search=

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 2, Ewan Cameron)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7JuwbeAGc

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 3, CIA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SCVnpkKNM

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 4, Jose Delgado)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5jW5p8-3o8


Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 5, Masonic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPYixEaanc0

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 6, Experiment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrlGK09YsCg

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 7, Religion)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfK92_Iehw

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 8, George Bush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuG0H9DGVkQ

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 9, LSD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAagG1ZFvPE

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 10, Misdirection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZFvw_jk48

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Clip 12, HAARP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhBiWV_5eCY

deca
28-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Mind Control: America's Secret War
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2927316845773056069

very good mkultra documentary discovery channel (43 min)

aizzy
29-07-2007, 12:19 AM
the best bit in ghost busters one is the marsh mellowman bit<>
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make e_nuff people think it
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it will appear

deca
29-07-2007, 03:00 AM
aizzy what are you on about?

I am a real person talking to real people having real experiences, trying to learn and educate others.

Wow aizzy you made one post on this tread so what I and others have posted is disbelieved now.

I think the readers and posters are more educated and know when people are speaken the truth and willing to share there experiences to inform and learn to be put off by a 1 time ambiguous post dude.
Think the people on here are big enough to make there own minds about things by what is put before them and there own experiences of life.
So take your movie expierance of life and judgments else ware unless you have something constructive to add to this thread or explain yourself better.

Just thought about this after your post, more people believe in ghost than mind control and electronic harrasment , just as well my detector detects both.

chicken
29-07-2007, 05:09 PM
:p - Whoaaa! Deca!! I know its annoying:rolleyes:

deca
30-07-2007, 01:21 AM
MI6 ordered LSD tests on servicemen

Volunteers fed hallucinogen in mind control experiments
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jan/22/uknews1
Mr Masters told the inquest: "MI6 was eager to try it as a truth drug."

However, the quest came to nothing, because the scientists discovered that LSD was useless for manipulating the human mind.

I wounder if they found some other way to "manipulating the human mind" in the last 50 years !!!!!

deca
30-07-2007, 01:35 AM
Revealed: MI5's role in torture flight hell

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2137144,00.html

The report confirmed that al-Rawi, 39, was only held after MI5 sent the CIA a telegram, stating he was an 'Islamic extremist' who had a timer for an improvised bomb in his luggage. In reality, before al-Rawi left London, police confirmed the device was a battery charger from Argos.

deca
30-07-2007, 03:33 AM
This makes a lot of sense to me
Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field
http://www.unisci.com/stories/20022/0516026.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness

chicken
30-07-2007, 08:42 PM
I am not a person who gets ill at all - in all the years I worked I think I must have had 20 days off in total. (17 years as an art teacher)

Boy - did I have a bad attack of electronic harassment. Sorry to be so graphic.

I had an internal shift - where your insides are reversed, also I had the most excrutiating pain in both legs from the waist to the knees. It was so bad I puked up all night. This is what psychotronics does to you - don't get tracked or chipped. I think I've got a chip. I surfaced about three today - my feet are still whirrin. All this gives self dissolution - you cannot run from yourself

I also have sub vocalised thought - "thoughts read" - I may have said that already.

Its all shit - I still think that there is a reason for all this. The police contacted me today about all this stuff. "Gang stalking and Electronic harassment?" Would you speak to them or not? Remember you cannot prove either. Am I nuts?

Chicken

toppercat
30-07-2007, 11:28 PM
Hello Deca,Chicken and Everyone,
We are in this to find a solution....
First of all we need proof....
(1)(a)this can be done electronically via a Spectrum Analyser which should spot any rf(radio frequency)activity within a localised region(Your ears!).
...Also via a Audio amp connected to your ears and connected to a computer with the ability to cancel out other noises,and clearly hear what is been heard.
We need someone who knows electronics inside out,and who can or who has done research on micro receivers preferably resident in England.
(b)We need proof via the medical field,that is X-rays & Cat scans.We need a medical official who can spot these tiny foreign bodies around the skull,head and neck.
This should lead to them been surgically removed.
***Now I want to deal with several other themes regarding electronic harrasment...
(2)Regards street theater,don't worry about it too much,remember they are wasting their own time,and showing themselves up for the saddos they are!
..Plus you also have to accept with your confidence been low via the electronic harrasment alot of people are going to gutlessly take advantage and hurt you.There are some nasty people out there.
(3)These micro receivers(implants)need a tuned circuit at a particular frequency to operate,open up a medium wave radio and you see the coil is pretty big,look at the tiny coil around the tuner(tuning capacitor)this is for the FM band.(88 to 108 MHz).
So for a really tiny coil you have to go up to the UHF(Ultra high frequency)end of the spectrum which is 300 MHz to 3 GHz.
I don't think they would operate on above 3GHz which is the SHF and EHF end of the spectrum for the simple reason,on the ground the signal would get easily blocked,and the antenna from their transmitter would need to be perfectly alligned with your head at all times.
(4)Remember the ears can hear the tinyiest of noises right down to micro pascals,so it wouldn't take much wattage from the micro receiver to be heard by you within your ear canal......which leads onto..
(5)....They would use very little power from their transmitter,they don't want to be traced when interfereing with a part of the spectrum they are not meant to be on.
...So when you take into account they propagate very little power and because of the frequency they are on they have to keep their aerials very close to you...That means they have to keep very close to you,maybe even 2 miles(I'm hazarding a guess here).
So if you go on a trip they have to follow you by car,quiet sad really!
(6)How do you distinguigh electronic harrasment from schizophrenia.....Well with electronic harrasment you get pain,you are kept awake through the night with loud tones,the sounds sound external not internal,if you clasp your hand to your ear the sound can sound different maybe even louder!
.....plus it would help if they ran several tests on you and then they would find the micro receivers(implants).
.....Think about the person who suffers schizophrenia or some other mental condition that is similar in nature,how they would suffer if they had to put up with electronic harrasment aswell.
(7)I saw on a website in the US one of those surveillence shops selling a micro receiver for about 1500 dollars.
The people involved in electronic harrasment are probaly cheapskates and there is no way they will pay this for a micro receiver,they want several anyway,so they can operate on different frequencies with different audio.
the modern micro receiver has a micro processor operating on 200 MHz within which processes the signal which could be at 2 GHz.
The old 1980's technology would probaly detect directly to audio the 2 GHz signal.These are usable and people involved in electronic harrasment would use these because they are cheap.
Believe it or not these receivers operate on breaking down the chemicals within your body and creating electric power from them,or even using the tiny amount of electricity that pulsates around your body.
Albeit there are other ways to get the power.
(8)You think electronic harrament is bad now, wait till you see what they will do 30 years from now..We should all get frightened!
(9)Sadly Deca and Chicken even if the electronic harrasment is dismantled,and the proof is there for the police,I can't see any prosecutions emanating!
(10)Again we are in it for solutions.....
(a)To prove you are been electronically harrased.
(b)To get surgery to remove the micro receivers.
(c)To trace who is responsible for the operation of the transmitter at the very least.
(d)To have a system in place so anybody in the future who is electronically harrased can have the micro receivers removed promptly.
regards,
Toppercat.
Ireland.

chicken
31-07-2007, 08:05 AM
I need protection - and need to be watched and contacted often. Just to make sure that I am ok. A lot of resources for one person?

Alright the police would have to take my word for it - The psychologist who I saw contacted her husband also a psychologist and they SAID they believed me - either that I am walking into a trap to get me commited?

You see it would be considered that I am a crank if I do something else. I don't want to leave my husband and area - but I could be forced to - pain to get me to move.The perps do not want to be caught - which may mean they will leave me alone. I would like me tested for bugs - a zapchecker could do that? Car for a reciever - gps? me for a reciever. I want a scan done - maybe a police surgeon might instigate and do that. I could sign that I agree to being scanned and x-rayed - it would supposedly take five years off my life. Ok fine I could live with that. You see its about ethics - AND - there is this talk of satalite surveillance - would you need an implant for that? I have my mind read so? I could give them a warning to what I was up to - so again no chance of being detected. The perps will be long gone.

Professor Kevin Warwick - said it could be as much as 10 miles for a reciever to be workable - when I spoke to him. Also I have a unit opposite the house which houses different units. Different small businesses. One could be a cover for the perps? They would have to be raided. For that you need a reason. You can't keep hassling people can you?

My believability and credibility is up for question - evidence makes the case sound. I even researched this concept to make sure I understood it. Perhaps I ought to have a lie detector test. They are supposed to very accurate. Or speak to someone who is a behavioural expert - you see these people like on "Trisha" who watch your body language and tell if you are lying or not - giving a hint?

I do not understand all that you write - but it seems plausable. If I see the police they would have to help me do certain things. Alright I might not get anywhere and nothing could be found - its not going to look good is it? The frequencies may not be detectable at the time as they could be turned off at the point of testing. I suppose they could leave me the equipment and I have a video camera

I am sitting here - at 5.42am and both my feet are pumping out music and I have an induced headache. I am aware of what this is doing to me as a person. I just want to save someone else the trauma.

yep - all very far fetched. I just need the help and a bit more peace of mind. Someone to be with me on this stupid journey I am on.

Chicken

chicken
31-07-2007, 11:45 AM
Deca - I noticed you wrote this in April - exactly what I thought

I would think that there will be similar programs though the mental health services.


think what's happening to me is being targeted on other individuals around the UK.
How wide spread this is I don't know. But I feel they are testing some type of system to be spread out and used on mass. E.g. to proven t crime some sort of pre crime, gather intelligence,secure secret communication, social thought conditioning. Drive undesirables to madness or suicide.

I need people to research this my ability to do this myself is hindered.

Please can people look at the prison services and mental health services for any hint of this type of stuff going on. Also lets see if there's any links with company's or individuals involved and get some hard facts and proof of this its the only way this is going to stop.

Why its keep secret it will be abused.


Some people will not realise that this is what is happening to them - so don't do any research


Chicken

deca
31-07-2007, 01:57 PM
I have been looking at this for a cheap spectrum analyzer
MAGCHECK 95 SENSOR
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6209/mag95nw2.jpg
http://www.lessemf.com/probe.html
I have a dmm got one with my body voltage kit.
As soon as I have the founds I will get one.


also my videos of my ELF detector you see it flash,I don`t get that when I put it to a devices in my home normal it stays constant depending on how high the
field.
think it might be this
Very significantly, when discussing electronic mind control, is the fact that the peak pulse power required is modest - something like 0.3 watts per square centimeter of skull surface, and that this power level is only applied or needed for a very small percentage of each pulse's cycle time. 0.3-watts/sq cm is about what you get under a 250-watt heat lamp at a distance of one meter. It is not a lot of power.

When you take into account that the pulse train is off (no signal) for most of each cycle, the average power is so low as to be nearly undetectable. This is the concept of "spike" waves used in radar and other military forms of communication.
source http://www.nwbotanicals.org/oak/newphysics/synthtele/synthtele.html
The detector I used had a fast response time(its went missing)
I have bought another one but its a different make and has a slower response
time.
I am going to buy this make again.
E.L.F.-ZONE™ GAUSS METER

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8966/elfdetlo0.jpg
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html
some video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXxJ_kuhYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gDoNPMTgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGyjGCUQBy4

ngawaka19
31-07-2007, 02:22 PM
http://www.vibe.com/music/audio/2005/05/17/audio_stephen_marley_mind_control/


A song called 'Mind Control' by Stephen Marley. This is on his latest album. Damn good listening. Bob knew about mind control, he also mentions spaceships on one of his songs on the 'Survival' album.

The thing that freaks me out is, the many ways they do mind control. We are left with no choice but to eliminate all state benefits, being health, food, education, connection. Become fully self sufficient and that will be a way to counter their control. We are lucky here, we can disappear into the bush and never be found. Which is what we aim to do if the predicted happens.

I haven't allowed my children to be inoculated, i use all self made medicines, (there is a civil war in my house because the whole family won't stop eating processed foods except me) the teenagers love their Friday night junkfood gig. What a fool I was to start that up while I was asleep.

I just keep believing/knowing that if one has a strong constitution a strong mind, they won't get us. They will only get us if we have a wavering moment or if we keep saying they are. I will never stop saying they don't have the right, the strength or the insight to own me or my mind.
God help them.

love and light
ngawaka19

chicken
31-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Mind control in fiction and popular culture

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Mind control has proven a popular subject in fiction, featuring in books and films such as The IPCRESS File, and The Manchurian Candidate, which has the premise that controllers could hypnotize a person into murdering on command while retaining no memory of the killing.
The TV series The Prisoner featured mind control as a recurring plot element.
In the Anthony Burgess novel A Clockwork Orange, later adapted into a film by Stanley Kubrick, the "Ludovico Technique" is a form of mind control that causes the subject, in this case the thug anti-hero Alex, to feel sickness and pain whenever he has a violent or anti-social impulse.
Mind control (telepathic hypnosis) is a prominent psionic gift in the Scanners movies. It is used by the Scanners to escape imprisonment in the first movie, and to sometimes control others in the subsequent films.
George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four features a description of mind control, both directly by torture, and indirectly, in the form of pervasive mind control by the use of Newspeak, a constructed language designed to remove the possibility, Sapir-Whorf-wise of articulating or of even thinking subversive thoughts.
The Jedi mind trick is a prominent plot device in the Star Wars saga.
There has also been a rapidly growing genre known as erotic mind-control and remote influence, where the controller's motivation is to control victims for the controller's own pleasure, although this is often described as resulting in pleasure for the victims as well. Most such stories are published only online as they are written by amateur writers as a hobby.
The Illuminatus! Trilogy pokes fun at conspiracy theorists' assertions of pervasive mind control. The best known example for the book is the fnord, a word that the populace at large has been programmed since birth to not consciously notice, but to associate with a sense of fear and general unease; it is supposedly inserted into published works on current events, such as magazines and newspapers, but is absent from advertising, leading people to avoid knowledge of the world and to be obedient consumers.
In the MMORPG World of Warcraft, players of the priest class gain the ability to mind-control other humanoid characters, gaining full control over their actions for a short period. (Due to interface limitations, priests cannot do anything else while controlling a target.)
Preacher units in Populous: The Beginning as well as priests in Age of Empires are able to take control of an opponent's units (in fact, this is their primary function in both games). Although this is not mind control, but rather preaching to the enemy so that they willingly convert sides.
In Konami's stealthy title Metal Gear Solid for the PlayStation, Psycho Mantis, a rogue special forces member with powerful telepathic abilities, subtly controls a small army, and on several occasions completely dominates a single person's movements and speech.
In "The Matrix", a chemical was injected into Morpheus to make him reveal access codes.
The character Yuri in the Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 is an extremely advanced telepath with the capability of completely controlling the actions of others. There is one flaw, however: a mind-controlled person can be seen to be showing strain against Yuri's power, culminating in sweating, stammering and memory loss. Later in the game expansion Yuri's Revenge, he leads an entire faction with several mind controlling units included.
The Dark Archon, a unit in the computer game StarCraft, has the ability to psionically mind control other units, indefinitely taking complete control of them.
In Midway's Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy, the player's character Nick Scryer can perform mind control.
Michael Crichton's "Terminal Man" has doctors implant a simple computer into the brainstem of a man who suffers from impulsive violence. The plan is to stimulate certain nerves to ease the violent impulses. Instead, the violence becomes even more irresistible.
In Bionicle storyline, a Kanohi mask called Komau allows the user the power to control minds of beings.
In the anime, movie and video game series Street Fighter 2, Vega (known as M. Bison in the US) uses his "Psycho Power" to brainwash and corrupt street fighters across the world into joining his criminal organization known as Shadowloo, turning them into remorseless killing machines fully under his control.
In the movie Control Factor, an unsuspecting "everyman" slowly realizes he is an unwitting guinea pig being used in a mind control test. If successful, the test will then expand to behavioral control of an entire population.
In comic books, Professor Xavier, the leader of the X-Men, can read and control people's minds.
The progressive/heavy metal band Queensr’che uses mind control as the central theme of their 1988 album Operation Mindcrime.
In the movie Conspiracy Theory, Mel Gibson plays as Jerry Fletcher, a cab driver and a conspiracy theorist who coincidentally hits a truth involving a secretly government-funded mind control program, as it turns out Jerry himself is one of the subjects of the program.
The late Russian psychic, Wolf Messing, was said to be able to hand somebody a blank piece of paper and make them see money or whatever he wanted them to see.
Jim Halpert is another fictional character to prominently use mind-control for personal gain.
The House of the Scorpion is a Sci-Fi book in which people have computer chips implanted in their brain, allowing them to only do what they are 'programmed' to do. These people are referred to as 'Eejits'.
Firestarter is a Steven King book about a girl who has pyrokinesis, the ability to create fire with her mind. Her father can control people's minds making them see things and do things and he uses this ability to save his daughter.
in Revelations of Secret Surveillance a group of artists and writers struggle to understand and expose a covert system that utilizes psychodrama and brain scanning surveillance to interfere with the lives of artists, activists, and many other people.


chicken

chicken
31-07-2007, 09:00 PM
Toppercat -- how come you know so much about this - you seem to?

Chicken

deca
01-08-2007, 01:03 AM
http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2814749.ece
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/58354/

both on
http://www.infowars.com/
in the heath news section

deca
01-08-2007, 02:00 AM
from an us army dictionary/thesaurus

US Army’s Combined Arms Center (CAC)
http://usacac.army.mil/cac/overview.asp

Voice to skull devices
http://call.army.mil/products/thesaur/00016275.htm
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7458/v2kweaponsvb4.th.jpg (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v2kweaponsvb4.jpg)
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lake
01-08-2007, 11:58 AM
What do you eat?
How about purifying your body and strengthening your aura with waterfasting and raw organic vegetarian food?
Get rid of all electronic equipment which is used as tool against yo (incl. mobile phone)?
Perhaps body is so full of toxins and metals (mercury etc) and they just resonate those to get effect?

deca
01-08-2007, 12:55 PM
I did not have a mobile when my harassment started,The preps told me to get one(I have never met or communicated with the perps in the normal sense,it has been through voice to skull and I think talk back to them) ,At this time I did not know what was happening,was lead to believe I had
some new head mobile phone system a could make money from it,There were lots of mind games played on my to keep me confused and to play it the mental health system.I have one now as I need to contact people if I am in trouble or under heavie attack.

As for food I should try and eat more health, money and my state of mind (I am depressed a lot and my motivation is low)

I did start to eat eggs and take vitamins and eat a lot of cereal,some fruit mostly bananas think they are good for the brain.

Also I try and drink bottle water when I can afford it,really want some kind of
water filter system.

There is so much that I need and frustrating that I don`t have the money or the support to get them.

lake
01-08-2007, 01:30 PM
As for food I should try and eat more health, money and my state of mind (I am depressed a lot and my motivation is low)


Sugar in food and drinks causes depression..


I did start to eat eggs and take vitamins and eat a lot of cereal,some fruit mostly bananas think they are good for the brain.


Sugar in cereals is better to be avoided. Cereals could be GMO also..
I'd rather eat sugarless organic muesli or something..
Well. I've been a raw food vegetarian for 2.5 years and my depressions are all gone.


There is so much that I need and frustrating that I don`t have the money or the support to get them.


Also thinking of money all the time lets coarse energies in, because money is the control tool #1 of Illuminati.

There are always free alternatives.. herbs, wild vegetables etc.
God gives us everything for free from nature.. We just need to go for it.
Everybody is in a way on the same line and have the same possibilities for good health and spiritual development.

toppercat
01-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Hello Deca,Chicken and Everyone,
I want to invite the moderator to bring in the good offices of David Icke and help bring some clarity and help in the direction of a solution regarding electronic harrasment.
Again we need......
(1)Somebody who knows electronics inside out and has a open mind,does David know anybody like this?
He(or She)needs to run tests on the micro receivers(& micro transmitters),to see its full parameters...such as.....
(a)What frequency they operate on?
(b)How much power they need to operate?
(c)How much power they need from a transmitter to emit a audible sound in the human ear canal?
(d)How loud the micro Receivers can get in the ear canal?
(e)To see if it has a micro processor within the micro receiver(implant)and at what frequency it operates?
(f)How is the micro receiver powered?
(g)How close must the offending transmitter be(or put another way how far can the transmitter be)?.....This could be dictated by power,and not wanting to be caught,so the signal transmitted could just be above the noise floor?
..........David could check out this website and contact "Roger Tolces" who would help him with his enquiry,he works and resides in California(so he is 8 hours behind,contact him by phone after 6(Our time) in the evening.
"www.bugsweeps.com/"
Maybe via this vehicle a legitimate and above board source could be found for the micro receivers so tests can be run on them.
..........
This leads to detection...
(a)Detecting the Micro receivers on the person via Spectrum Analysers,and other equipment.
(b)An ability to Df(Direction Find)the offending transmitter once a frequency has been found.
(c)An ability to write credible reports that can be fowarded to the police and OFCOM and medical authorities,and to elucidate their reports on this website.
..........Further we need......
(2)A Medical Official(consultant or Surgeon)with an open mind and who is prepared to investigate,Again does David know anyone like this?
He(or She)as soon as they got a report from the Electronics expert as mentioned before would...
(a)Perform an X-Ray or a Catscan on the persons head ,neck and shoulders,again only if this is a proven way for it to show up these foreign bodies.
What might be needed is a Guinea Pig to have the implants put into them in a legitimate and fair way.
Having said that if the medical expert knows what the micro receivers are made of and their size,he should know if they would turn up on the scan!
(b)If again proven,this time medically aswell electronically,the Medical expert will perform surgery or refer the person for surgery to remove the implants!
........Again I must state the following......
(3)(a)Electronic harrasment is technically possible.
(b)There are people who are technically capable of Electronic Harrasment.
(c)There are people who are evil enough to commit Electronic Harrasment.
........Of course David could...
(4)...Via a vehicle of a newspaper,prove via a willing person(who is legitimally)implanted,to prove what is capable.Also to detect the micro receivers(implants)electronically and medically.
........If David can't help..
(5)Maybe he can direct us to a person who may have the connections.
regards,
Toppercat.
Ireland.

deca
01-08-2007, 02:20 PM
Hi toppercat

Are you a member of http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php
and www.mindcontrol-victims.eu

If you are a TI you need to join this.There is lots going on now.
Some testing is going on with experts, Euro MPs are looking into this and there is a meeting with them soon.2 twice weekly telephone conference`s in English other days different langs.(free if you have skype)

Email I got the other day

Dear Friends

There are some exciting new opportunities that will be happening in the next coming 2 months. They are all geared towards the support of people, equipping you with the tools needed to make an impact and to get results that make a difference !!

* EMF Testing in a isolated faraday cage environment which will take place on Saturday 4th August. Location Saffron Walden Essex, UK. If you have concerns of being remotely targetted or microchip implants this will be he ideal opportunity for you to have these matters investigated with state of the art technoloy . Only 16 places left so do register your interest early. TRAVEL TO AND FROM INCLUDED.

* Free seminar on approaching authorities, the press, writting letters, legal matters and making your complaint heard by experts. Please register your interest.

* Teleconference on starting a business and raising funds from home. Please register your interest. There will be a seminar/dinner in London in the near future.

* Teleconference on Building your own website and getting on the internet, and guide to the internet. Please register your interest

* Creating your own broadcast 'U-Tube' movie.

* Counselling and victim support from registered professionals.

* International teleconference regarding proposed plans for European Lobby. Every wednesday get your voice heard and hear others!!

* Free newsletter each month on e-harassment related news around the world. Please register your interest.

* Holiday in Leeds Yorkshire a chance to get away for a long break with other people, please register your interest.

* Free seminar 'Multiplying your resources in any area of your life by Joint Venturing and networking'.

* Teleconference on Research Methods - 'Finding the right information when you want it and for free'. Please register your interest.

* Free seminar on tips to raise awareness in the general public about E- Harassment


also

former MEP is busily learning about the electromagnetic harassment issue, and hoping to plan a way of bringing that issue back onto the pan-European political agenda, which has not addressed the issue at all since the passing of European Parliament Resoution A4-0005/99 calling for the abolition of the EM-harassment industry, over eight years ago.

deca
01-08-2007, 02:44 PM
Sugar in food and drinks causes depression..

I do drink a lot of tea witch I add sugar
I do not add sugar to cereal I tend to eat weatbix,fruit fibre

I have put my name down for a allotment,want to grow my own food.
Tend to eat a lot of convenience food,I know its bad,but my motivation is under attack a lot.

I am not a materialistic sort of person tend to buy what I need after doing some research to get the best deal and product for me.I do get alot of harassment when I start doing positive things in my life to put me off and give up.
the perps are quite happy for me to sit around and let my life drift away from me and fall to pieces.
The perps have screw me up at work and I am on the sick for now.
that evolved intense prolonged attacks on me and manulipatating my body felt like they had stepped inside my body could hear there breathing over my own.They have for a while being trying to fool it think that I have said things that are audible i.e used my mouth talked out loud.But they can force words out when I am not concentrating now,sort of like Tourette's. I am not sure how long I am going to keep my job if they keep doing this
to me.
I am not giving up,but just not sure were I go from here.
Some other TI`s have got the ball rolling,and I am going to try and get envoled with some of the events comming up.

chicken
01-08-2007, 04:16 PM
Toppercat -- how come you know so much about this - you seem to?

Is it alright to ask this again. Are you a TI?

Chicken

erikneo
02-08-2007, 11:29 PM
Hey Deca i found this audio about Electronic Assisted Vigilante Gang Stalking, Mind Control, Electronic Harassment, Secret Societies, Advanced Technologies, Dirty Tricks, Government Agencies ...

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/radio/Road_to_Freedom.html

I don't Know if you already know and posted it already but theres the link:)

deca
03-08-2007, 02:31 PM
Thanks erikneo, I have not listen to this before

I have heard of Eleanor White and she has done alot for TI`s
http://www.raven1.net/

I never new she had a radioshow
shoestringradio.net (Eleanor's Website)

http://www.shoestringradio.net/

I will post this into the forums I post on

So thanks again,

deca
04-08-2007, 04:35 PM
As the video shows that mind control & electronic harassment is a world wide problem and can happen to anyone,These people a very brave I have not got the courage yet to go fully public with my name and pic,I am still trying to have some kind of normal life,think many other TI`s are tying to do the same,but this movie
is getting added to all the time,as more and more TI`s are working together to bring a stop to this.


http://www.youtube.com/user/soleilmavis


Thank you

chicken
04-08-2007, 04:45 PM
I am having a very hard time - can't do this TI thing - too much.........

How can you say or one say they is mentally ill when they are not. I can't admit to being ill with the aim of getting better - when it is not in my control this?

Its really shit. For all you non TI's out there reading this - we are electronically changed to suit the perps agenda

Seen video - still can't trust all this stuff. Even though hit big time. It is not my imagination all this. Feel really ill - induced. How can you have a normal life? I suppose it depends on how you are hit too.

Chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 04:53 PM
what I meant was I do not tell many people about this, I don`t use my real name online or made and post video or pics of myself. I don`t need to be classed as some kind of freak, I have a seven year old daughter, so I don`t what any publicity that would get here slang off or laughed at school also people would not know how to react to me making it hard to try and do normal
things, work,shop,go out and about.I will probably have to one day.

I am sorry you are having a bad time sounds like your perps are real C**Ts.

Mine vary, think there more intrestred in prodding about in my brain and keeping it quite and slowy steering
my life to disaster so it looks like its me who can`t coupe and not some technology abuse bring this to me.

chicken
04-08-2007, 04:57 PM
I see - fair enough as you have a daughter as you say. Protection of her is important. I am having a really shit time. Because I am running out of options now - close to the end of all this.

They are not nice no. I am shot to pieces....I am losing hope....

Can I ask - are you sure its electronic harassment? How do you know for sure? How do you explain that?

Chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 05:10 PM
I tried to put of dealing with it myself and getting involved with other TI`s hope it would go away but it did not.

This is what gets me, If its so hard to prove why do they have to
keep on harassing us.I think its because we are not mentally ill or forced or given to being mentally ill, If there`s to many normal people organized reporting this then somebody would have to take our claims serious and investigate.

The truth is out there, people just have to look for it.Thats what the perps don`t want.

As long as they can claim "oh look there just mentally delusional,don`t waste your time,why would we do this to people" they can fog people of and stop any real research and investigations

deca
04-08-2007, 05:22 PM
I have perfect voice to skull and can think talk back for a start,the other pains shocks and body manlipanation proves to me that I am not mad.

I also have video of "spiked" unexplained ELF`s that can not be explained by something inside my house.

I have had the perps turn them on/off when they said they can (by voice to skull) so I know they are linked, and could not be done by me myself.
This has been demonstrated many times to me off cam.

If you have done research on the technology's then it does exist but the range and advance meant is not declosed.


By talking and reading with other TI`s, It just fits in to what I am going through.

chicken
04-08-2007, 05:46 PM
What pains and shocks including body manipulations do you get?

The truth is out there, people just have to look for it.Thats what the perps don`t want.

I have discredited myself this week. Police listened but nothing can be done.

So how do you get it looked into then. I don't have the answer - nobody else does either.

I need help Deca - no-one to turn to

Chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 05:57 PM
chicken I am it the same boat, so is other TI`s

only by raising awareness, and joining together to do things on mass can we hope to change our situation.

to easy to discredit 1 TI but more than one becomes a problem.People will have to sit up and noticed.

look at the mkutra victims it took them years to get noticed and compensated

There a lot already been done, But we still need to keep on pushing our cause.

look at Dr. Nick Begich
http://www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=13
people can`t say he`s a nut or that his research is wrong!

chicken
04-08-2007, 06:00 PM
Seen the Begich video. I am being forced to see a psychologist on NHS - what can I do. Husband wants me to admit being ill? Will have to get a part-time job and just hang in there

I know about how difficult it must be for other TI's I don't feel safe up here either

Chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 06:04 PM
no you have not discredited yourself to the police,
You have reported a crime and they have not investigated
They have let you down.
So when this comes out I would think about sueing them.

Its a mater of time I think, Before this comes out.

chicken
04-08-2007, 06:08 PM
yes I have Deca - I asked her the DCI if she had heard of this and she said no! and I asked her if she believed me she said she was not sure. Stumbled over a couple of dates was not prepared for that.

So enough said.........


Also I was told if you remember it was a large american religious cult group - couple of hours drive. I still don't think it is them

Chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 06:17 PM
Asked them if they know about mind control or electronic harrassment

Then tell them to research it before they judge you.

or keep quite and act normal. get them to admit you are not mad

I would do the second, but depends how much they know about you.

John allman has got TI`s of mental health laws, hes went to court and won because the court can`t prove if they are not a target.
So as long as you act normal and not seen as a threat not much they can do.

They can`t really do you for a belief.

chicken
04-08-2007, 06:25 PM
She said she had never heard of it. Mind control and electronic harassment or gang stalking for that matter.

I would do the second, but depends how much they know about you.

Not a lot - don't forget sectioned once. Police know little of me

John allman has got TI`s of mental health laws, hes went to court and won because the court can`t prove if they are not a target.

I think I understand what you are saying - I got myself out of a tribunal - it was not easy.

No - can't do me for a belief. I need to watch my back - because mind is read is it not. Computer hijacked. Better take it easy and make sure have someone around me all the time.

Also don't forget - they induced suicide twice. Are they going to bump me off?

Chicken

chicken
04-08-2007, 06:35 PM
what can I do. Husband wants me to admit being ill?

chicken

deca
04-08-2007, 06:41 PM
I will get back to you sisters wedding reception at 7pm,
I have same problem family want me to admit I have mental illness and take the medicine's,and some how forget about it and worrie about normal things!!!!
the more I explain the bigger my hole gets.

chicken
04-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Have a good evening - hope your sisters day/evening goes well? Did you go to the wedding?

good for you - I'm not going to take the "f....n" pills either. Not sure I like that expression

the more I explain the bigger my hole gets.

laughing......

Chicken

chicken
04-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Tempest - "can secretly read the displays on personal computers, cash
registers and automatic teller
machines, from as far as a half mile away infromation here an
below in quotes obtaine from
Subj: [prj] Echelon: The secret is out.
Date: 4/18/01 3:50:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: msmith01@flash.net (Mark A. Smith)
Sender: owner-prj@mail.msen.com
Reply-to: msmith01@flash.net
To: msmith01@flash.net (Mark Smith)


"The underlying theory is that electronic circuits
create “compromising emanations.” Not to be confused with
interference,
these are subtle but measurable changes in surrounding
systems—comparable to the dip in line voltage that occurs when the
light in your refrigerator goes on as you open the door."

"NSA is said to have perfected Tempest to the point at which it can
reconstruct the images that appear on a video display or TV screen.

Take care when you read it. You never know who
might be looking overyour shoulder, from a half mile away."

Tempest: The Laws of Canada, England and the United States
http://www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/Security/tempest_legal.draft
http://jya.com/tempest.htm

Thought this was interesting

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:04 AM
The stalkers job is to make the victim look mental.

This is where the reports of gang stalking, which law enforcement and the justice system seem to ignore as ravings of the mentally ill, come in to play!!!!!

I should never have gone to the police......

The first job in gang stalking is to make the victimized person look mentally ill. As the victim begins to cry out about these things that are happening in his or her life, they begin to get labeled as mentally ill because there is no proof. The devious actions of the gang members who set a man or woman up into this kind of prostitution are designed to make the person look crazy. For example, with the ability to put these people unconscious any time.
To groom a female for this, she must live alone and/or be extremely alienated from family and friends. One of the main functions of gang stalking is to make sure that the victim never develops close personal relationships with others. The gangs work hard at discrediting the victim at his or her workplace, and with his or her family, and in his or her community at large.

I am doing this myself...... I am scaring my family.......

For example, gossip and rumors are started about the victim. He or she is labeled a pedophile or drug addict, or accused of some other kind of socially unacceptable activity. Then, stalkers employ what is known as ‘street theater’. This is where events are staged that makes the victim look like they are involved in activity that they really are not involved in at all.

I am very worried. I need to reverse quickly. How?

Chicken

deca
06-08-2007, 01:54 AM
Sometimes you can be your worse enemy,I know I have do some dumb ass things but at the time I was under a lot of mind control pushing me.

They are not grooming you ok,if you start thinking that they will push you that way as it will discredit yourself

I fear being a bum and some kind of human robot.

You have to try and hold on to your life, Its not easy, you are a strong willed person, you will have some messed up states and fear and uncertain of the future that is normal behavior in your situation.

I have to step outside my person and think in some kind of 3 person a lot of times.

have you filled in a support letter from Monika

Try a do this and get your details spread around and on proper complaint leters to MP MEPs and UN

That will hopeful help to protect you a bit as your name will be known to these and it will be harder for the perpetrators.

Sorry I can`t help you much, bastards try a ware you down and your support
and resources.

kblood
06-08-2007, 02:10 AM
Hmmm... As I wrote earlier, I simply suspect all my actions are monitored, and act accordingly. Makes life complicated, unless you live your life seemingly normal most the time. I usually have some powerfull ways of gaining respect though I think... It sounds like paranoia though. I think you should try checking out the possiblity that it might be paranoia. During my discoveries on how the world is, I have found that every thought might affect someone in someway. That made me fear what to think. Now I have become confident that most my thoughts are my own though.

Still, look into the paranoia bit. Maybe your fear has gotten to you. I have lived some of my days caged in my own fear, and my actions got worse for it. Fear can be a very paralysing feeling. If it proves not to be, then I can only wish you best of luck.

deca
06-08-2007, 02:23 AM
chicken you will be paranoid and fearful that is normal in your situation,I get them heighten and my worse assumptions played into.
Thats why I say to keep calm and let them run through you and take your time
over things, don`t be panicked into doing things or letting your thoughts run a way from you.

deca
06-08-2007, 02:39 AM
It is not nice when you start learning about all the things that have happened to mind control victims i.e mkultra and cathy o`brain this shit is scary, probably
even more if you are female, I don`t think that the remote mind control and electronic harassment have the physical abuse and trauma ( I mean in person) you do get it by remote. Think they are more into keeping you quite and not in a situation to defend and report this.
Thats why I stopped looking at a reason for this happening to me, I just think its the perpertrators
playing with there electronics's and using us as unwittingly human guinea pigs.

kblood
06-08-2007, 03:04 AM
Paranoia isnt a permanent state of mind, but is a fear that sometimes make you fear something you shouldnt. Also it might make you believe that there are more people after you than there actually is.

Im not "accusing", only suggesting, from my own experience, that it is something that is best to double check all the facts sometimes, especially if they are few, when something is like this.

Deca you got some good posts about it though. I have feared that I might be watched by Echelon... well not a fear really, since I dont see how it would be used against me.

kblood
06-08-2007, 03:11 AM
I have by the way had to stay in a psych ward myself. Some of their medications can be helpfull I think, getting the better of your fears. I dont use medications, unless I cant find any other way to break my emotional patterns. Usually I can make do with sleeping pills though, and thankfully I dont need them more than once a month or less.

If you feel fear is taking control of your life (stalker or not), then medication can be a good thing. At least worth trying. I have a few friends that had to take medications like this to supress their fears. I fear they havent become free of their medications again though. If you can control the fear without medications, then you wont need them.

Ignoring the stalker might help, but it does really sound like that isnt easy. Setting up events though? Try making a paper on who might be in on it. In my experience, I dont believe events are setup on you. Too expensive and risky. Try finding out who in the events are the ones that are in these gangs. Then maybe do your own investigation against them, but maybe you already did?

Also their motives are important to figure out if you need to stop them. In my experience most stalkers can be beaten with patience. If you dont let them get to you, they get sloppy, or less interested.

deca
06-08-2007, 03:14 AM
Sorry kblood,

yeah fear has a lot to do what is happening to TI`s(targeted individuals)
They abuse paranoia and fear.....whats happening to us is not normal and we don`t know who to trust so we are paranoid and rightly so. We have real fear and an uncertain future.

I have to read post and my replys a couple of times so I don`t pick things up wrong.

deca
06-08-2007, 03:20 AM
hmmm the perpertrators can switch our emotions on/off like turning on a light switch, then theres the abuse/turture of our minds and bodies,the frustration of not being believed.

I have used sleeping pill once when under a heavy attack, but would not recommend having any sort of pills lying around.

kblood
06-08-2007, 03:28 AM
Also, remote mind control? Why would they use technology to do this? It seems easier done with a psychic. Technology simply cant do that kind of stuff yet. Our brainwaves cant be controlled by technology, not unless they implemented something in your head. I once had a bullet in my head, and wanted to find out were, to get it out. I passed a place with a metal detector and then after walking through it fast once, I thought I might as well try to see if the bullet would show. I moved my head htrough the sensors slowly, and they beeped. Then the security had a handheld scanner than could scan my heard from the front and the side.

Without some implant in your head, the technology for mind control doesnt exist. Hypnosis and stuff like that simply seems alot more likely. Maybe a hypnotist can help break it?

Try learning meditation. If someone or something is intruding in your head, then it should be blockable by mental strength.

Do you have blackouts?

deca
06-08-2007, 03:38 AM
I have not had the gang stalking, only mentally(mental state changed & voice and sound effects through voice to skull to add to it) played on me and that was very felt real at the time i was experiencing it. But I do believe that gang stalking goes on, Too many TI`s experience it and other none TI`s, I just wanted chicken to realize that also if you have been gang stalked you are going
to be looking out for it every time you go out. So chicken reactions are normal
its here situation(mind control & electronic harrasment,gang stalking) that is not.

kblood
06-08-2007, 03:40 AM
hmmm the perpertrators can switch our emotions on/off like turning on a light switch, then theres the abuse/turture of our minds and bodies,the frustration of not being believed.

I have used sleeping pill once when under a heavy attack, but would not recommend having any sort of pills lying around.

Emotions are a balance in us, and they are controlled a large part by our heart. If they could turn on your "love" feeling with a switch, I would be very surprised. If you have stalkers like this, I guess you do some spiritual evolving asap to learn how to fight it. Feelings and thoughts, if controllable, are still never 100% controllable.

Spritual evolving isnt something that can be "boosted" much though. That is why maybe a hypnosist could have the people targetted remember blackouts or something like that. Or maybe remove hidden "triggers" left in the subconcious. Doing some soulsearching should help get rid of it though.

deca
06-08-2007, 03:43 AM
Our brainwaves cant be controlled by technology

yes they can


What is brain entertainment then?
http://www.alanmallinick.com/html/soundlight.html

what is TMS then ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation


Dr. Nick Begich must be a lier then!!!
http://www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=13

his videos are posted on here with other stuff

I suppose that http://www.neurosky.com/ is a hoax then?

do you feel emotional when you play your favorite love song or one that means a lot to you?

what about lights,smells and envorment have no effect on us then?

what happens when you watch a scary film/move or something upsetting

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Defense Viewpoint, December 1, 1998

"One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them."

kblood
06-08-2007, 04:12 AM
yes they can


What is brain entertainment then?
http://www.alanmallinick.com/html/soundlight.html

what is TMS then ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation


Dr. Nick Begich must be a lier then!!!
http://www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=13

his videos are posted on here with other stuff

I suppose that http://www.neurosky.com/ is a hoax then?

do you feel emotional when you play your favorite love song or one that means a lot to you?

what about lights,smells and envorment have no effect on us then?

what happens when you watch a scary film/move or something upsetting

As far as I can tell, most the links are mindreading tools. Which is very different. And also as I wrote earlier, needs to be something on your head. Directly on your head. I have had my brain scanned, but that was by the oldfashioned CAT scan or is it a CT scan? I tried to help mapping things in the brain. That thing is bigger than me. It is great that they have made mindreaders so small now though, since it has alot of good uses. Especially for handicapped people.

Therefore, if someone is being mindcontrolled: You are bound to have something inside of your head, being hypnotised while unaware or something like that. Maybe a psychic intruding or a ghost intruding.

All the research done is on people that agreed to it as far as I can tell. And there are soo many that agrees to helping with this research. Especially because it can help restore the life of a crippled person.

deca
06-08-2007, 04:25 AM
Remote control brain sensor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm

Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Discovery Channel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg716...elated&search=

Monarch Chapter 10A: MKULTRA Scientist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuitKgPJ87Q

Monarch Chapter 10B: Russian Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA

What you see now with these head sets and implants were done under the mkultra 30 years ago.

The military complex are 20 odd years ahead of doctors and scietests in civiy
street.

and all the mind control & electronic harassment victims are mistaken then

http://www.mindcontrol-victims.eu/

kblood you are being rational and logical on what you know and have experienced.
unfortunately this has been keep quite and denied.

deca
06-08-2007, 04:31 AM
All the research done is on people that agreed to it as far as I can tell. And there are soo many that agrees to helping with this research. Especially because it can help restore the life of a crippled person.

Gov't settles with CIA brainwashing survivor
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070703/cia_lawsuit_070703/20070703?hub=Canada

MI6 pays out over secret LSD mind control tests
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,1716708,00.html

Mind Games
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399.html
Family Jewels' reveal CIA altered mind of 4y girl
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5469

chicken
06-08-2007, 08:55 AM
Interesting read going on here.

Did not have a good night I am afraid - wish I had joined the debate.

Ok - yes. As with any thing. Technology can be used for good and evil

On the positive side, researchers in the field of light and sound are making huge progress in a number of areas, including working with learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, stroke recovery, accelerated learning, drug/alcohol addiction and enhanced human performance.

Nick Begich: says.......

The research is also teaching us a good deal about our suggestibility in terms of influences which have an impact on our behaviour. The underlying message that comes with the new technology is the necessity of providing safeguards against misuse.

also he says ....

The suggestibility of humans, particularly when in a fatigued condition, has been exploited by terrorists, cults and others in pursuit of their own aims.

The issues surrounding behaviour modification, mind control and information warfare become crystal clear as the facts unfold.

C3I [Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence] doctrine is still growing and expanding. It would appear that the military may yet be able to completely control the minds of the civilian population.

Actual testing of certain systems has proven "that movements, sensations, emotions, desires, ideas, and a variety of psychological phenomena may be induced, inhibited, or modified by electrical stimulation of specific areas of the brain.

and so.....the body is capable not only of being deceived, manipulated or misinformed but also shut down or destroyed—just as any other dataprocessing system.

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 09:14 AM
Mind reading and control exists. I can describe its awful effects. Mind and body as a focus....

To be successful, it requires, among other things, that the individual be completely isolated from normal associations and environment. This has happened to me.....

I have had my breathing played around with. I wake up feeling reversed. Can't see straight. Internal body feels reveresed - internal shift. I have had choking, nausea, induced full body pins and needles and the rest.......

I have stalkers alright - I know that you can not see me - see my expressions and body language and stuff. I am honest as they come. Boringly so....

I am being stalked big time - everywhere I go. Pretty much. Mostly by car obviously if I travel. Don't go into town much now - but this is what they want is it not? I am going to fight that. I can't hide away.

I did not agree to any of this - I was put out without my consent. At least the police know now. For what good it will do me?

I remember having for about a week - severe pains in my neck and I thought this was odd- implant travelling through? The pains felt like something was passing through and was slightly too big. It was best described as though something had got stuck - it was not nice.

I want a scan....

That is why maybe a hypnosist could have the people targetted remember blackouts or something like that. Or maybe remove hidden "triggers" left in the subconcious. Doing some soulsearching should help get rid of it though.

I thought about doing this - but literally chickened out of it. It was arranged. The hypnotist would not agree to removing triggers as they need to know what the trigger is first. I wanted to be taken back to before xmas - it can be done. But if I have an implant then that is futile is it not?

The implicatons of all this are begining to sink in big time. In fact too much so. If I have said this before - I say it again. I am very worried

chicken
06-08-2007, 09:32 AM
Deca - you said......

But I do believe that gang stalking goes on, Too many TI`s experience it and other none TI`s, I just wanted chicken to realize that also if you have been gang stalked you are going to be looking out for it every time you go out. So chicken reactions are normal its here situation(mind control & electronic harrasment,gang stalking) that is not.

I am stalked in the local shop too

How do I know - well there is a gang stalker uniform, secondly they wear something to let me know information. There are a lot of deaf people around at the moment carrying milk. Read the rest ok....

As part of my coaching experience. I had apparently some nlp experiences - Neuro linguistic programming built into the sessions. I asked. Anyway. I have worked out that nlp is being used for bad. Instead of getting rid of phobias it creates them instead. So if you see something six times yep you will sensitive to it.

An example to explain it further could be - if someone comes up to you clicking a pen. You may think thats odd? - after its been done to you three times you take notice a bit more. Lets say you have seen it ten times - then what happens - you get a phobia about the said clicking pen and make associations with it.

To actually prove you are being gang stalked is like this. Lets put five kids in a row. Ok each kid says a part of a sentence. "you f.. king shit hole" (sorry about the language)

Anyway the kid who is being victimised complains and the third kid in the line says I only said the word king - thats not a crime is it?

you cannot make it stick to one person or situation. This is why it is big, invpolving many people so that you appear mad, alter your perceptions, create phobias. You then make a fuss - no one believes you etc etc......

by the way I was told if I did not remove it I would loose it?

Chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 09:48 AM
kblood - wrote

Without some implant in your head, the technology for mind control doesnt exist.

it does exist I am afraid. read the history etc. That can't be all disinformation or misinformation? I am living proof - its shit. I don't lie, exaggerate, bend the truth. I am not paranoid - considering all that I have been through - I should be gibbering like a wreck. I have to remind myself constantly to be brave, strong. One has to ask though - for what reason?

mind control - is all around us. TV, shopping, rules and requlations, courses - the way children are brought up - alright!!! in normal circumstances gang stalking is not. I am used to them - but am still very vigilante as to what they will do apart from distance subliminal messaging.

Either way you look at it - I can be got. Gang stalking - if decided to go for the bang on the head situation by an actual person. Or via the electronic harassment angle. Can't decide which is worse uttimately. At present the e-harassment is the worse of the two regarding worry. I am got at 24/7 - it is very wearing.

I am conscious of giving feedback - but as I was told in my coaching session "you cannot not communicate". If I relate all to that - meaning sub vocalised thought, forum feedbacks to perps, behaviour control etc....

Do I? have blackouts? NO. Thats another thing as well. As the technology induces it. If you go to doc - he/she will not find anything because electronic so false. Doc will think u is seeking attention

Chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 09:58 AM
The electronic harassment -

well in real terms this is a big worry. I am a realist

I could be shouted at in my head-VK2. I could be given instructions to do something bad. I would have to say I was told to do it. Can you believe that in normal life - no. The normal way things go is that you won't be believed.

I have changed because of all this - this is what they want. Radical so that It can be blamed on me what ever it is after it surfaces. If I go to a psychologist I am digging my own grave - if I talk about it I am seen as a crank and maybe planning it? I made it all up from what I read on the internet. I am suggestable and cannot make up my my own mind on things. I believe things too readily.

If I don't go to a psychologist - I could loose my family etc for not helping myself. If I go then I am admitting that I am ill and need help. Just being in the room and the fact I turned up. I then speak all this gets written down - because chicken is a honest person. Pdoc writes label out as chicken leaves.

Chicken does something bad - evidence at the pdoc notes. "Bingo". Full circle this explains it - whatever she does. She was ill. She was not able to do normal things. Job, life, family etc. etc.....

I don't think so. I will do my best to hang onto it all

I am in a loose, loose situation. The worst thing is that the medical profession - the bent ones are in on this. Ok - you might think this is the ramblings of a mad person. yes-this is skew even I can see that. Just because a doc does not mean that they have a pure heart. I have had a couple of strange things happen at docs - which is why difficult to go. I also believe very strongly which does not fit into the average persons world view that the psychiatric service in uk is run by thugs. Now only time will tell how deep this goes. You cannot judge people all the same can you? Everybody has an agenda - mine is I don't have an agenda at all

If you are unlucky like me to be either implanted and electronically harassed it is difficult to go to these people with an open mind. I have told you a few times about - "change your story" and other stuff about the comments I have recieved. I have forced my husband to swear I go nowhere near the crises teams - but in reality it makes it slightly easier that I don't sit in their presence in as much they are the perps. The electronic harassment is coming from them. Coach ran courses for said team up here. So she says

why can I summarise this - things that were said also they knew exactly what I had experienced. ie internal shifts, body manipulations etc. Now thats an odd thing to explore briefly in a meeting don't you think. I just could not place what was being said. I was confused - but not now at all

I could be tortured until I give in. Mind or body angle with regards to that.

There seems to be some indication that prostitution and e-harassment goes together.

black-mail, extortion, etc..... I was told - " I can do this myself " in relation to any particular context - no not really when I look back. I remember repeating it back to a mate who thought it was odd too

Look anyway - its all shit. Problem most people are blind to it - because you cannot see it. It looks like you doing it. Actions speak louder then words. Communication consists of 80% of you - body language 20% is spoken.

As I said I am very very worried. Either this is a practice run - or this is going somewhere. Either way it is real. This is my life - or was a perfectly normal one until xmas........

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 10:06 AM
The problem is that it is difficult if not impossible to sort out which people might be victims and which are delusional. Attempts to determine the reality of the complaints are often the butt of jokes and fear

We believe that the claims should be taken seriously and that people should have some place to go in order to find the truth or gain the medical treatments they otherwise deserve

Its too late for me I am afraid. I am fearing the worst

Chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 11:27 AM
I need a heavy dose of compassion - will i get it? no - might as well accept that.

Its all about the taunting of me - evesdropping on my thoughts. The sheer expense is mind boggling

a single sufferer gets the following

costs putting technology in place - actually I think it is house and land around house. It started when I moved here
lock on me - whilst I move around
Constant surveilance to see it is working
manpower time etc. A lot is done I believe for the thrill of the chase

Arrogant behaviour from perps

The weapons are portable then. Taken from power grids or from some source. Advanced physics is being used.

The effort to stay normal is beyond the scope of human endurance. Well at least I found out about it all. But can't prove it can I. God what will happen if it becomes more widespread. I read somewhere that the incidences of Schizophrenia is on the rise. Is this a global pandemic of schizophrenia?

I wrote recently that there was evidence from Americas top psychiatrist who said what is schizophrenia? Unbelievable or what? These people decide your fate

I am not out of touch with reality. It is those who try to tell us who are out of touch with reality I fear.

Is my attack random - no

Experiments or situations that people find themselves in are longitudional - meaning they cover many years of their life. I consider it one group-geographically spread out. Something to do with mental health - with many people in many places.

I am being / going to be told that I am unable to interpret my own body and experiences - now that is insulting

chicken

deca
06-08-2007, 12:30 PM
I have and had they same dilemmas why me,what have I done, who has done this to me,what can I do to get off this,what do they want from me.
Is it something I have done,is it were I live.The perps try and make out its my fault all the time.

The thing is somebody else has put you on this system for their reasons, you did not know anything about this or given a choice, you might have been chosen for something you have done,been or meet. You probably will never know.


its there system the technology and how the preps have deployed and used against people that is wrong. Nuremberg code,Human rights should of stop this kind of abuse.

Its only by make this aware to people and getting it investigated by good people in positions of power will this stop.

The preps have stepped over the line with this kind of technology,it goes against humanity,they know it and covering it up.

kblood
06-08-2007, 12:42 PM
I have and had they same dilemmas why me,what have I done, who has done this to me,what can I do to get off this,what do they want from me.
Is it something I have done,is it were I live.The perps try and make out its my fault all the time.

The thing is somebody else has put you on this system for their reasons, you did not know anything about this or given a choice, you might have been chosen for something you have done,been or meet. You probably will never know.


its there system the technology and how the preps have deployed and used against people that is wrong. Nuremberg code,Human rights should of stop this kind of abuse.

Its only by make this aware to people and getting it investigated by good people in positions of power will this stop.

The preps have stepped over the line with this kind of technology,it goes against humanity,they know it and covering it up.

I know the US has tried training psychics and using them as weapons. I only know of them trying to use them as information gathering types. They shut down that apartment though. I guess they found that people with these abilities also are more bound by morale and karma.

It really seems unlikely to me that they should be able to do mindcontrolling though. Not just by pointing something at someones head anyway, or wirelessly. I havent seen that kind of technology yet, or even how they would use it.

What I have seen though, is about advertising and marketing( I have been educated on these things ). Most marketing is a type of attempt of mind control. The more you believe in yourself though, the less others will be able to control you. No matter what technology they are using.

Our bodies are vessels for our spirit and souls, and the trinity or duality in this keeps a good balance in the power of our body. All of these 3 helps each other to not be corrupted. Having faith and makeing sure all 3 is healthy, is something that helps you be more confident, and get more self esteem.

After giving it some thought, I really think self esteem is the best way of fighting them. Make them know you wont be affected by their tricks. Dont even confront them.

deca
06-08-2007, 12:47 PM
I think you have not seen any equipment or it admitted is because something called national security.

chicken
06-08-2007, 12:49 PM
deca - Hi!

have and had they same dilemmas why me,what have I done, who has done this to me,what can I do to get off this,what do they want from me. Is it something I have done,is it were I live.The perps try and make out its my fault all the time.

no it is something I am very aware of - it relates to why? I can't write this in public.

Have you a conclusion yet?

Oh - I think I know - because I now know I think it is worse. I sussed them out early on and had dialoque about it - now they will go for me. Deca in normal circumstances you could consider me paranoid - not here I am afraid

Of course it is wrong - its all wrong. No laws on this type of technology in UK. Could become even more widespread?

I have been diagnosed from a distance - armchair psychiatry?

Technologies leave no trace - gang stalking employs between the lines innuendo, double entendre, metaphor, symbolism, suggestion etc

Mind control is a kind of social psychological warfare on the innocent - bahaviour modification and control targetting. Creating silence and dispair in the victim. Who is going to believe you and take you seriously?

The gang stalking gives you pressure, mockey and ridicule.

I think I might have a spine implant - this is possible - the pains in the neck may be a blind alley?

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:00 PM
It really seems unlikely to me that they should be able to do mindcontrolling though. Not just by pointing something at someones head anyway, or wirelessly. I havent seen that kind of technology yet, or even how they would use it.

you can buy it on-line if you know what you are looking for

only if you allow it - depends on the level of torture and type. How far it goes. You as a person are all part of the equation. I suppose its a case of know your enemy. I don't know mine. I am the enemy to them. They must know me well if they have studied me. Stage one - in gang stalking terms - do a psychological profile

Also I have sub-vocalised thoughts - they read the mind. I get responses. Electrical shocks up the back or back of legs. They are well ahead of me. I guess they will know me well from January thats when I was put out. Me thinks some stuff was going on before that

I would like to see you try and resist. Please don't think I am being rude. If you are aware of marketing - placement, height, colour etc etc. Makes the person buy. In our sitution its about the pavlovian experience. "Training". In the supermarket for example if you keep moving the goods around - it won't get bought. If placed in a particular spot with something else that goes with it - it will get bought won't it. This is training too

Pavlovian - as in rewards and no reward for behaviour. Not sure if you get what I mean

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Deca

P.s don't forget the istanbul protocol too.

The Manual on Effective Investigation and Documentation of Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, commonly known as the Istanbul Protocol, is the first set of international guidelines for documentation of torture and its consequences. It became a United Nations official document in 1999.
The Istanbul Protocol is intended to serve as a set of international guidelines for the assessment of persons who allege torture and ill treatment, for investigating cases of alleged torture, and for reporting such findings to the judiciary and any other investigative body.

www.ohchr.org/english/about/publications/docs/8rev1.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Protocol
http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/ library/istanbul-protocol.html

Chicken

deca
06-08-2007, 01:05 PM
I have many conclusion and assumptions

But I have divorce myself from blame and wrong doing on my part.

Remember I have suffered for 3 years now.


I try to live my life as best as I can,not easy have to kid myself and others

I try and raise my sprite and hope and to other TI`s not easy when its little and far between.

kblood
06-08-2007, 01:14 PM
I have been diagnosed from a distance - armchair psychiatry?

Technologies leave no trace - gang stalking employs between the lines innuendo, double entendre, metaphor, symbolism, suggestion etc

Mind control is a kind of social psychological warfare on the innocent - bahaviour modification and control targetting. Creating silence and dispair in the victim. Who is going to believe you and take you seriously?

The gang stalking gives you pressure, mockey and ridicule.

I think I might have a spine implant - this is possible - the pains in the neck may be a blind alley?

chicken

You already seem aware how they can control people without implants. I will refer to my other post, that maybe trying to get scanned with a portabel metal detector might give the answer. In my experience it can be used as a portable "x-ray" device that can be used to look for intrusive objects in your body.

As I mentioned earlier, I convinced some security that had a portabable metal detector to scan me, and they were able to print images of those scans right after.

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:23 PM
I am glad that you have divorced yourself from self blame.

I could blame myself for going - to coach. But I will not totally as she took advantage. I wish I had never gone - I would not be like this then. She had four agreements she said one that worked best for her was don't take things personally. the other three were don't make assumptions - make no judgements , do your best and be impeccable to your word

I looked at a few book reviews later and this was seen as a very bad book - because it was about forgetting your previous beliefs and being brainwashed into starting again. It was believe it or not about freedom.

not sure I can kid myself - my life can't be based on that. It has not been before. Difficult

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:26 PM
kblood

You already seem aware how they can control people without implants. I will refer to my other post, that maybe trying to get scanned with a portabel metal detector might give the answer. In my experience it can be used as a portable "x-ray" device that can be used to look for intrusive objects in your body.

As I mentioned earlier, I convinced some security that had a portabable metal detector to scan me, and they were able to print images of those scans right after.

how+where you managed to do that?

chicken

kblood
06-08-2007, 01:30 PM
I try to live my life as best as I can,not easy have to kid myself and others

I try and raise my sprite and hope and to other TI`s not easy when its little and far between.

I know how you feel. I hate not being honest with everyone. Having to lie to protect others seems so wrong. I sometimes dont tell everything I know because it makes others afraid. I see you and Chicken know that to be a problem as well. I have researched vampires and so on. The things that the research reveals, makes for some scary stuff to be possible. My belief in karma, and the public not seeming to be bothered by it makes me worry less about it. So as long as I can keep myself thinking this, I just get in line and follow everyone else, untill something might slip and reveal itself :rolleyes: Then I will get to see why they are so secret and hiding. Seems like they are scared as well. The ones who are after you. Working in secret is a sign of fear as I see it. That the stuff you work with is something they arent proud of.

chicken
06-08-2007, 01:34 PM
I know how you feel. I hate not being honest with everyone. Having to lie to protect others seems so wrong. I sometimes dont tell everything I know because it makes others afraid. I see you and Chicken know that to be a problem as well.

I made a couple of family members afraid with my honesty. It backfired on me. They will win. I am in the minority - I will fight hard. But they know my thoughts too. I am not ahead of myself - the perps act upon the thoughts.

Deca - you have had yours for three years without gang stalking - I may not last that long. Gang stalkers can be in the work place too

chicken

deca
06-08-2007, 02:25 PM
What I am saying chicken, now that you have told people about this,the last thing the perps want is hard prove that there`s anything going on,They will play
into what most people believe because they have not experience it or be told about it or done any research on it. "it can`t happen, if it did why would they target her, it just in her head" This is why they are hitting you hard to back up not your believe but the people around you friends,family,doctors and any outlet
you use posts letters phone calls.The last thing perps what is somebody like you
a professional woman acting sane, well informed and with good education and excellent communication skills
making this known.

chicken
06-08-2007, 03:05 PM
You see my family actually half believe what I am saying - they think the gang stalkers will hurt them. This is what backfired on me.

It will come out eventually - yes it will but it will need to be soon. Not sure if I will be saveable in time. I have an implant I know it

Ok - do research on it - fine - but most people do not see the link with you and the technology - it just don't add up in their eyes. You must know that. You was called delusional by your temp doc. They think its something that happens in America that is one family member said to me. This is the UK - nah - not likely.

We are back to why you or me? There is always a reason for everything. It is not random. That don't wash with me. That does not mean that I think I am important ok

I mentioned that the outlet for my ramblings is like a test - closing a loophole. I think they do want me to shout about it - because it will discredit you or one even more no matter if I was a professional person or not. I am still human after all.

I was told not to go to the papers well you can't can you? I read online - yorkshire post something like that about John Allman + voices in his head?

yes I have good communication skills - but can still be delusional in the rest of the populations eyes. Especially if the perps are in on it too. Docs etc....

Its gone quiet today - slight microwave hearing, burning scalp, left foot whirring. Muscle spasms in left arm. Perps always attacking left arm more than right one - which I believe is for a reason too. Unless ambiguous mind games?

Deca - there is a reason for everything - just to slam point home

They want me to know - big time I am always being watched and followed
I see what I see with my own eyes ok.

My assumption - tortured and killed slowly? seen this written loads of times

Goals could be social stigmatisation, encouraging suicide etc.....trying to be positive is difficult? I used to be very positive. I still feel ok considering but just being a possible realist?

chicken

chicken
06-08-2007, 03:20 PM
just found this on http://www.emf-health.com/blog/

http://www.emf-health.com/blog/2005/09/are-you-electrosensitive.html

BBC Panorama report on Wi-Fi dangers - on same page. Looks interesting.

EMF Radiation Can Damage Your Eyes

has anybody else seen this?

chicken
06-08-2007, 03:23 PM
Deca - this might interest you. BAE 4th in the world


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_contractor

Top 10 World-Wide Defense Contractors, 2005
Rank Name Country 2004 Rank Defense Revenue
(US$ million) % of total revenue
1 Lockheed Martin U.S. 1 34,050 95.8
2 Boeing U.S. 2 30,464 58.1
3 Northrop Grumman U.S. 3 22,126 74.0
4 BAE Systems U.K. 4 20,345 80.0
5 Raytheon U.S. 5 18,771 92.7
6 General Dynamics U.S. 6 15,000 78.2
7 EADS France [1] 8 10,506 24.2
8 Honeywell U.S. 12 10,240 40.0
9 Thales France 7 8,869 63.1
10 Halliburton [2] U.S. 16 8,000 39.1

1.) Lockheed Martin logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lockmart.jpg
slogan, "We never forget who we're working for" *lol*

2.) Boeing logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Boeing-Logo.svg
slogan, "Forever New Frontiers"

3.) Northrop Grumman logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NorthropGrummanLogo.png
slogan, "Defining the Future"

4.) BAE Systems logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BAE_SYSTEMS.png
slogan, "innovating for a safer world"

5.) Raytheon logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RaytheonLogo.png
slogan, "One bomb, one target"

6.) General Dynamics Logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:General_Dynamics_logo.PNG
slogan, "Strength On Your Side"

7.) EADS logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EADS_Logo.png
slogan as Airbus, "Setting the standards"

8.) Honeywell logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Logo_honeywell.gif
slogan: none

9.) Thales logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Thales-logo.png
slogan, "A contractor serving contractors"

10.) Halliburton logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Halliburton_logo.png
slogan, "Halliburton, proud to serve our troops"

chicken
06-08-2007, 03:27 PM
Mysterious "Crop Circles" created by US Military Weapon?

author: Rodney Bleckstyne
Nov 12, 2005 15:39

It is likely that these geometric designs (crop circles) are due to the firing of an aerial military microwave cannon,piloted by computer.

Crop Circles
Translation by George Hoskins

These have been observed mainly in the south of England (Hampshire, Wiltshire…) since the 60s, and more recently all over the world. To the present day their number has been estimated to at least 5,000 [LP98].

In the beginning it was a question of ears of wheat found flattened down to ground level in the form of a circle. Since then the phenomenon has become considerably complex and diversified. Nowadays the patterns found in fields are large up to some hundreds of metres in size, and complex geometric shapes (see an example fig. 5-a) completed in a very short time such as less than half a minute [PDCA89 p. 156 and LP98]. Many hypotheses have been examined, including that of extraterrestrials because UFOs have often been observed in the vicinity [PDCA89 p. 17, 35, 38, 63, 68, 84, 89 and 98], sometimes casting a luminous ray towards the ground [p. 115].

Fig. 5-a: Beckampton (Wiltshire) 8th August 1998
Flattened down wheat is in white.
Tractor tracks due to crop spraying can be seen.
Drawing diameter is ~50 metres.

It is likely that these geometric designs are due to the firing of an aerial military microwave cannon, piloted by computer. The arguments supporting this view are as follows:

Why Microwaves:

Research by Dr Levengood (of BLT Research Team), an American biophysicist, corroborated by the analyses of Ken Larsen, a British biologist, has shown that the way in which the stalks (wheat, rapeseed…) are flattened without being broken or damaged [p. 25…] is typical of a UHF microwave effect. Thus one can see stalks of rapeseed curving at 90 degrees, the flowers of which are still intact, although those same rapeseed stalks break easily when one attempts to bend them over by hand [p. 151]. The new position taken up by the plant becomes fixed. It continues to grow horizontally [p. 3 and 158] and breaks if one tries to return it to the upright position [p. 140].

Phenomena of electromagnetic origin have been observed at the locations: irregular compass behaviour [p. 172], disturbance of electrical apparatus [p. 44, 60 and 172-173], disturbance of radio frequencies, luminous flashes [p. 34, 52, 65 and 95], cracking sounds [p. 52, 63, 66 and 172-173], animals obviously unwell [p. 65 and 81], dowsing effects [p. 177-178], etc. Numerous positive effects (spontaneous cures, feelings of peace…) or negative effects (temporary paralysis, mental confusion, loss of memory, terror…) have also been observed in humans [LP98]. Let us remember that certain effects could also be explained by a reaction of fertilisers or pesticides subjected to microwave radiation, a reaction which could release toxic gases [LP98, who mentions organic phosphates]. The appearances of luminous flashes and the cracking sounds are not inevitably objective phenomena and they could be only feelings induced in the brain of the witness by an electromagnetic field. Albert Budden gives an example of such magnetophosphenes: "If the brain of the subject is exposed to an [alternating] magnetic field whose frequency varies from 10 to 100 Hz and whose power varies from 200 to 1,000 G, the subject will see flashes of light [...] in the top left corner of his visual field." [AB98 p. 59-60, citing research by L. Ruttan, M. Persinger and S. Koren].

The investigator Busty Taylor showed that samples of plants or ground taken in a crop circle could be attracted by a simple magnet [AB98 p. 50-51]. That could be explained by the fact that the ferromagnetic particles present in the dust of the atmosphere were bound with the site of the circle, after or during its creation. Some of these particles have been scrutinised under microscope. They seemed to have melted when touching the soil or the plants to create a fine cracked glaze.

A bird was found within one particular formation and its body appeared literally to have exploded, as if it had been cooked alive in a microwave oven. In other formations some dried out hedgehogs were discovered [LP98]. Also wheat grains are dehydrated and crunchy. They are less conductive according to work by Dr Levengood.

Microwave laser technology appeared during the 50s and has been improving in keeping with the increasing complexity of the crop circles. Is it a mere coincidence?

More than 50% of the circles observed in England have appeared during cloudy or rainy weather: the cloud cover would allow the origin of the microwave firing to be hidden. Microwaves are able to pass through clouds and act through falling rain, and they are perhaps less damaging to plants when it is raining.

Certain patterns suggest the use of a rotating beam with variable diameter according to the circles in question [PDCA89 p. 156], which might correspond to either the natural or deliberate dispersion of a maser beam, fired from a high altitude. The diameter is estimated to be less than 30 centimetres at a distance of 20 kilometres.

Why by Computer:

The geometric designs observed today are typical of those one can see on computers: 3D designs, fractal designs… Certain patterns are, mathematically speaking, pretty complex (fig. 5-b).

Fig. 5-b: a few of the pictograms observed in England

The designs are drawn very rapidly, by day and by night, sometimes in front of witnesses who report seeing the ears of wheat flattening out in front of them in a few dozens of seconds. Three accounts of this type have been recorded up to the present day, coming from known and trustworthy witnesses [LP98]. Numerous other accounts have come from unfortunately less trustworthy persons.

Why an Aerial Shooting:

There are no traces of access to the sites even when the field is not lined by tractor tracks because the crop is not sprayed, or when the ground is muddy [PDCA89 p. 68, 107, 113 and 155]. We must remember that a field of mature rapeseed cannot be crossed on foot because the plants (as high as 1,50 metres) are tightly interwoven.

There are sometimes broken or burned tree branches directly above the circles [p. 174 and 184].

Why by the Military:

HPM (High Power Microwave) technology is used by the military today for destroying enemy electronic equipment.

President Reagan’s "Star Wars" (SDI) proposed the setting up of various antimissile laser devices. Let us mention only the GBL (Ground-Based Laser), a ground cannon aimed at a reflecting satellite which sends the light beam to a combat satellite mirror, and the SBL (Space-Based Laser) which aims directly at the target. Even if the global project has been abandoned, some of its devices may have been completed on a small scale. The firing can also be carried out from a plane (airborne laser) or a dirigible balloon positioned at a height of 20 kilometres and stabilised for example by ionic propulsion engines. As the reader will appreciate, the necessary technical means appear to be accessible only to the military.

In 1991, a design appeared in front of the country residence of the British Prime Minister John Major, pointing towards the house. Obviously this dwelling was under strict surveillance because of a fear of IRA terrorist acts. What other organisation apart from the secret services would be behind such a design? Numerous crop circles have also been observed in fenced military areas under surveillance.

The military wish to maintain the belief in extraterrestrials and are carrying out psychological warfare tests. They have the means for decoying the observers with fake saucers so that the circles will be attributed to extraterrestrials.

The military secret services are not held back by the risk of killing. Unfortunately the "circles" have already produced one victim: on the 22nd October 1987, as his jet was passing above a crop circle, the pilot ejected and then detached himself from his parachute before hitting the ground [cf PDCA89 p. 104]. Some aerial photographers report that the designs have a noticeable influence on them and on the aircraft controls when it is flying above them.

The British military is co-operating extensively with the American military and may have agreed to the use of "its" land.

The authentic formations have, of course, lead to numerous imitations which were at first rare and clumsy but nowadays are more common and sometimes impressive if the hoaxers have worked as a team for long hours. Competitions have been organised but no hoax has been able to withstand close scrutiny.

In order to distinguish an authentic pattern from a hoax, investigators concentrate mainly on the bending of the plant's stalk at its base, the plant having always to remain unbroken, something which imitators find impossible to achieve as they tread down their design in all directions during its making. Freddy Silva sometimes uses infrared photography on which one must see appear traces of disturbances in the spread of water within the soil if the design has really been created by heat-inducing rays. Debbie Benstead and other researchers often clearly identify a metallic taste in their mouths when they walk within an authentic formation [LP98] which could be due to a residual electromagnetic field interfering with tooth filling inside their mouth.

In 1991, according to research by George Wingfield, the CIA and the British Ministry of Defence secretly persuaded two retired gentlemen, David Chorley and Douglas Bower, to declare that they were the authors of the crop circles that had been observed to date, without providing evidence to support their statement. When this explanation became clearly insufficient, some agricultural students then made their appearance claiming they were making the circles. Now that it is almost admitted that microwaves are involved, are we to see appear in the media a group of scientist hoaxers who make designs in the fields from their telecommunications satellite?

"Coming full circle"

Picture by Emmanuel Dehlinger

"They are back... The Hampshire crop circles are re-appearing. This intricate design was spotted alongside the Winchester to Corhampton road at Stephen Castle Down at the weekend." [Article from Hampshire Chronicle, Friday, July 7, 2000].

After studying the question of crop circles,
you might be interested to see the technical solution we suggest
in the third part of this book, in the paragraph called The Crime Weapon Identified

WHERE TO FIND
Electromagnetic wave meters
Alternating magnetic field meters
Direct magnetic field meters
Alternating and direct electric field meters
Combination meters
Electromagnetic spectrum analysis

Appropriate meters to do paranormal research

Electromagnetic wave and electric field shielding garments

deca
06-08-2007, 03:46 PM
I have a qlink, I think it helps but can`t be sure.(white one)
also they have ones that protect houses and rooms (not sure how effective they are)
I also did take blueberry extracts to help with eyes and will again when i can afford to.


yeah bae system would have the knowledge and expertise to put this kind of gear together, also the strong links to military and goverment

they have just announced a stealth plane the other month,
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=62&ArticleID=1919589
theres alot of wierd
going ons with them, people who live near them get a lot of rf interference,bae
say its a jamming signal to protect the eurofighter when it lands i have heard.

The eurofighter can lock on and identify unique rf signals in a busy battle field, I.e ground to air missile radar system.this probably can be done over hundreds of miles.

http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/SharedServices/Divisions/AdvancedTechnologyCentre/index.htm

deca
06-08-2007, 04:17 PM
wierd
I was thinking about Crop Circles yesterday myself and thought some might be done by a direct energy weapon, I know myself that planets grow towards light
and light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

deca
06-08-2007, 04:30 PM
The clip from the discovery channel removed video.
Mind Control :: Mind Control Series (Discovery Channel)

Non-lethal mind control possibilities

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5539481320599552761&q=mind+control&total=4972&start=50&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6


full video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg716ODKuJQ&mode=related&search=

kblood
06-08-2007, 04:50 PM
They are kept a bit in check though. USA was getting a "anti missile" defence satalite. I think it was destroyed somehow, I heard from some guy. If you cant find the source of mind control, then I guess it could be hidden in some new satalite. Still, I find it unlikely. And satalites are always hackable :) Or they wouldnt be able to use it.

Sorry I cant provide good facts about it. I dont trust them much, so I try to get the facts from others, and try to figure what their motive is, and thereby try to validate the reasons for them to lie... and so on. If I trust someone, I take it as good facts, untill proven otherwise.

deca
06-08-2007, 06:11 PM
Engineers at BAE Systems have already blasted one of the jets with a simulated lightning strike – releasing 150 thousand million watts of power – enough to supply a small town – at a production-line Typhoon for 1,000th of a second.
The experiment was carried out in the safety of BAE's Electronic Warfare Test Facility at the Warton site, which houses some of the most advanced testing equipment in the world.
Nick Bell, operations manager for electromagnetics and electronic warfare, said: "We had completed a lot of computer modelling and smaller tests before and we were confident it would work, but you are always aware you are working with an aircraft worth tens of millions of
pounds.
"Fortunately the test went well and the plane emerged unscathed."
The tests are vital to ensure that the aircraft can fly safely through electrical storms. It is also tested to ensure it can withstand other electromagnetic hazards such as interference from radio and mobile phone masts.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/template/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=62&articleid=869076

deca
07-08-2007, 02:51 PM
please help to support us - abuse of directed energy weapons

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7227

deca
07-08-2007, 04:41 PM
Yeah I have told my work that I am Electrosensitive basically thats what happening to me, but its deliberate with a micro hearing effects.
When exposed to electromagnetic fields, people who have this condition suffer symptoms that include nausea, irregular heartbeat, fatigue, loss of memory, headaches, dizzines, muscle pains, skin problems, etc. In Sweden people who are allergic to electrical energy receive government support to reduce exposure in their homes and workplaces.
http://www.emf-health.com/blog/2005/09/are-you-electrosensitive.html

why can`t people understand that Electrosensitive has been know about for years, and now it has been turned into a weapon?

also why are mobile masts a hazard to BAE systems?

The tests are vital to ensure that the aircraft can fly safely through electrical storms. It is also tested to ensure it can withstand other electromagnetic hazards such as interference from radio and mobile phone masts.

Well search celldar and you start to realize?
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,811027,00.html
http://www.roke.co.uk/press/38.php
http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/SharedServices/Divisions/AdvancedTechnologyCentre/FeatureArchive/bae_ss_atc_tracks.html


What else have they got wired into these mast?

can they knock out enemy planes out the sky?

kblood
07-08-2007, 08:51 PM
What else have they got wired into these mast?

can they knock out enemy planes out the sky?

I take things as they come. If I was flying a plane (well, since Im no pilot I guess I wouldnt be flying the plane), I would be kinda surprised. Instead of fearing what technology there might be, I just try to counter whatever technology I do encounter the best way I see fit.

If people want to know what I am doing, I simply let them stalk me, and silently laugh inside that they find it interresting :D

deca
07-08-2007, 09:58 PM
From what I know having used a CB radio years ago the airwaves are regulated and licensed for certain use and control and restrictions.

Now with ECHELON they must monitor the airwaves to intercept these signals
Not only in this country but abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

So any kinda of large scale mind control & electronic harassment signals would
be detected.

now in the uk we have the Tetra mast for police and emergence services

and what do we find?
The fundamental issue that worries most people (apart from use of our taxes and doubts about the way the Home Office contract was awarded) is that the system uses pulsed microwave radiation, at a pulse frequency of 17.6Hz, which is very close to a key frequency of electrical activity in the human brain at 16Hz (our beta brain waves are around 13Hz to 20Hz). The defence from anyone with a vested interest in TETRA/Airwave (the brand name) is usually that either there is no pulse (remember in history at school Nelson and ‘I see no ships!’?), or that the intensity of the radiation is too low to matter.
http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/index.php

So not only would any mind control signal be put down to the police,emergence services communication system it would also be against the law to intercept,record and jam these signals?

They might even piggy back these signals off these towers!!!

kblood
07-08-2007, 10:19 PM
I guess they might. I still doubt they are able to do much more than reading brain activity. Probably a "mutant" detection system to see if any of us try to use too much of the brain. Interesting facts you found there by the way :) I wonder if this has anything to do with me and others proving telepathy, telekinesis and so on.

lake
08-08-2007, 12:56 PM
Here is interesting book about mind control and implants in a book
"Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula"
Implant chapter is easy to find with search : "AN INTRO TO IMPLANTS"
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

chicken
08-08-2007, 03:17 PM
I read that and that was scary - the illuminati book thing. also it says how it relates to govt or other organisations - complex?

The Battle For Your Mind
Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today

By Dick Sutphen

Assume for a moment that you are watching a politician give a speech. First, he might generate what is called a "YES SET." These are statements that will cause listeners to agree; they might even unknowingly nod their heads in agreement. Next come the TRUISMS. These are usually facts that could be debated but, once the politician has his audience agreeing, the odds are in the politician's favor that the audience won't stop to think for themselves, thus continuing to agree. Last comes the SUGGESTION. This is what the politician wants you to do and, since you have been agreeing all along, you could be persuaded to accept the suggestion. Now, if you'll listen closely to my political speech, you'll find that the first three are the "yes set," the next three are truisms and the last is the suggestion:

I had this happen to me - in a coaching situation. yes answers, truisms and then came the suggestion. I have been done over - it was a cult.

chicken

chicken
08-08-2007, 03:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCHQ_CSO_Morwenstow

The GCHQ Composite Signals Organisation Station Morwenstow is a satellite ground station located on the north Cornwall coast between the small villages of Morwenstow and Coombe, UK operated by the British signals intelligence service (GCHQ) on the site of the former World War II airfield, RAF Cleave.

well I never?

chicken

chicken
08-08-2007, 03:35 PM
The GCHQ Composite Signals Organisation Station Morwenstow is a satellite ground station located on the north Cornwall coast between the small villages of Morwenstow and Coombe, UK operated by the British signals intelligence service (GCHQ) on the site of the former World War II airfield, RAF Cleave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCHQ_CSO_Morwenstow

GCHQ CSO Morwenstow is located about 100 km from the commercially operated Goonhilly Satellite Earth Station that handles civilian communications (which is due for closure in 2008).
The activities of GCHQ CSO Morwenstow usually remain classified, however, partly in response to concerns expressed by some EU member states that Morwenstow is responsible for corporate / industrial espionage and the interception of civilian communications, a report by the European Parliament (referenced below) was made public in 2001 that provides some details about the station.
Morwenstow GCHQ station has recently been renamed as GCHQ Bude and a new sign has been placed near to the entrance of the site with the words GCHQ Bude.

well I never?

chicken

chicken
08-08-2007, 04:09 PM
GLOSSARY OF TERMS FOR UNDERSTANDING ELECTRONIC MIND CONTROL

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

Bio-medical telemetry--Transmitter-receivers that are often located at the base of the skull which record body functions & brain wave activity. Their data is sent to remote computers for monitoring. A bio-medical telemetry implant may also function as the primary control implant on body suits of implants. Early versions were used on astronauts.

EMF weapons--Electromagnetic Frequency weapons. These basically are machines that can modulate and beam electromagnetic waves in such a fashion that they control biological/mental functions within the victim. Portals to the central nervous system can be manipulated to create visual images, project voices into the mind, and create pain, moods and emotions.

Psychotronics--This word was originated from Soviet research. The American public have mistakingly thought that the word is equivalent to psychic activity. A more precise translation of the Russian term would have been "applied psychoenergetics". American psychotronics research was initially done at Stanford Research Institute. This is the Theta Programming that Vol. 2 described.

Remote Viewing (RV for short)--This means psychic viewing of something.

Syntel--This is short for synthetic telepathy, which is the remote sending of voices and thoughts into a victim of electronic mind-control. The military and intelligence agencies have successfully achieved this capability and have carried out countless meetings over their possible uses of syntel.

chicken
08-08-2007, 04:16 PM
Mind Control and People Manipulation - from the implants section of the Illuminati book

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

This is the end result of years of "BLACK PSYCHIATRY--which means applying psychiatric techniques to manipulate people and nations. These computers electronically connect to some of those people who are electronically controlled, so that the controllers can actually control the world from a computer. These computers also store vast amounts of personal information about people’s thought processes and thinking. It is possible that electronic surveillance is being done to read the thoughts of people and that the computers are actually able to store this information in some usable fashion. Because this is so secret, they can’t give any hints of their vast ability to monitor thoughts, as well as organize and store those thoughts. This sounds like science fiction, but from people who invent & work at state of the art technology, this is actually said to be old technology. They are limited in how they use this technology because they want it to remain secret.

In order to keep their signals to their implanted victims secret, the Network employs a tactic called piggybacking where they piggyback their own audio transmission onto standard FM frequencies.

CANAL is the acronym for an system that is used simultaneously for transmission and reception via the use of a double-frequency shift keying (DFS). Radio transmitters that send quick signals are variously called BURST, SQUIRT, SQUASH, or high-speed transmitters.

ok......... Chicken

chicken
08-08-2007, 06:03 PM
I need to outline a few things - it needs to be made public.

I am a humanist and and an athiest and for the last 20 years have taught art and want it to be known that I have been hijacked by a parasite - which is defined as "Mind Control". I went to see a "Life Coach" who unconsensually put me out during one of my session where I have become electronically charged as a result. I am "Gang Stalked" in an aggresive manner and endure "e-harassment" 24/7. This happens in the UK - don't be fooled it does not.

I don't drink, smoke, have not taken many obnoxious substances - that includes food and have no criminal record. I was afraid of my own shadow - have had to grow up very quickly!

I was "told" by a group of three cult guidance groups in UK that I would have a very negative time - don't go to the press - you would recover - don't do any form of visualisation or meditation techniques - worked me out from a personality test - there was a support group in London - have lots of dialoque - see a psychiatrist - it was related to an american cult group - it was about Duality too - be vigilante

My world has turned upside down - I cannot go as far as I used to and am not in principle afraid of people or open spaces. I am followed around and can only speculate as to why - training for a new cell of gang stalking? and other negative reasons. I was told specifically what and why I was targeted for - and I just want to get some stuff out there so that "others" are aware of what goes on in "The British Torture State"

Who can stand such an ecompassing assault on ones life? I think I am today doing well - the main aims of this is to create stress, isolation and desperation in the targeted individual. Its a good thing I like my own company. Many targeted individuals go on to develop health problems due to the stress of it all - I have noticed my perfect skin has now started to show the stresses of this after 7 months of being harassed. Some targets go on to have digestive disorders, ptsd, irritable bowl syndrome amongst others. Many are incorrectly diagnosed with mental health disorders as a result of describing it to the police, their families or their doctors, the details of actual gang stalking incidences is difficult to describe and are not believed by the hearer.

Some targets take their own life as a result of gang stalking. Combined with - e-harassment its an effective tool to aid this destructive path. I have tried twice. Once by taking pills and the second time slashing my wrists and neck. I had never considered doing this in my life - I can only describe it as pure manipulation. The fear is removed by the perps and on both occasions I calmly did it. I am dreading to think what is going to happen next?

I am ready for it - the next time round. I personally could not do it again - why do you think my name is chicken.

Mind Control - does exactly what it says it does - it controls your mind. I have been thrown into a suddenly seemingly irrational social nightmare- I am begining to see that this could be a downward spiral in a person's life. I am trying to be cheerful and take each day as it comes. I have discovered music again after a lapse for a few years - the aim is to hide the vk2 I experience.

I get crappy music played over and over again. Either in my feet, my body or my head. I currently endure two styles of induced music. I also get hissing in the ears - the sound swapping ears and changing tone. I have also experienced my hearing go to super level - where the sound is turned up to a high volume. This can happen in traffic and once happened when the local church bells rang out.

Stalking can bring about premature death in the individual as well as e-harassment. It can be described - the effects recieved by the target - to be very nasty. I am trying to get validation for my experiences or assistance. Both are difficult to achieve. Duality is the perfect description for this

Gang stalkers have no accountability and do not take the consequences for their created hell for the target.

Society needs to be aware that this exists in Britain and organised pathetic psychological and physical assaults upon innocent individuals take place.

Directed weapons - they can increase wave frequency to a state of being disabling - which mimics acute paranoia to an induced high. I have had both of those things. No-one ever investigates any individual cases - because it looks natural even though the target complains in truth what is happening to them. There are targets all over the world suffering as a result of this insiduous technology.

In two times I have had so called dealings with the mental health crises teams in two counties. I have been stalked after - both at night and mobbed by car. Not chasing as such but almost rounded up is the best way to describe it. It is very frightening. This is done by youths, men, women who travel in high speed cars- going around and around the streets. It is a very slick operation.

I told the cult group where I lived and the woman was very excited? about the two areas I come from. Very odd?

I have some fear - but manage to contain it well. I jut wander how many people before me have had to endure this and what has happened to them in the long run.

I have discovered that the mental health units are seperate trusts and must have their own agenda. When I met one crises team in the south they told me to change my story after explaining about the life coach in a very threatening manner. Removing me literally by force from a mates house and putting me a hotel?

The ones up north - I was informed that the teams in the north by the south team were much more effecient and effective. They are relentless - they just won't leave me alone. The mental health bloke told me to be vigilant and to remove it or loose it? I can only think this is an implant - I will loose the rest of my life - husband, family, etc etc. Its so ambiguos that it could mean anything. He discussed my body manipulation effects openly and I challenged him and to which he got nasty? I was also told that I needed to watch the news and or the tv for messages?

The pattern for meeting the teams are organised in as much an incident takes place - in which you are manipulated - you mind is played with - you do something - they are called out - whether its home - or at hospital and you discuss it - they are threatening. The last time I was told I would be sorted out in ten days? No joke!! I don't joke about theses things. I thought shit and buggered off to the south where I was sectioned for telling the truth. You see the average population member does not see reality in this. It is a set up. That particular situation required a tribunal to get me out of the unit - which I successfully won. Not by lieing I might add - just not saying anything to their question.

The way I feel about this - because I have challenged them and met my perpetrators that there is not much hope for me. I am a realist - why induce two suicide attempts - they could use the technology to kill me anyway. The annoying continous harassment could send anyone who is subjected to it insane.

I don't see myself as an important person at all. Exactly the opposite really. The technology is intuitive and can listen in. I know I am bugged. How can I tell this? Well I recieved text messages via my phone that related to my life. I am not the only one who saw this - so it was not just my skew perceptions either. They always arrived the day after about the previous days events. As I said not just me that saw that either

I am visually attacked by the gang stalkers regarding innuendo, double entendre, metaphor, subliminal messaging etc etc. It is just ongoing onslaught. I am aiming to stay away from the teams as long as I can before they reel me in. Keeping calm in the process. Thankfully I am a calm person and don't react often. I may cry but that is only natural considering all that has been happening.

Well all this sounds far fetched and Professor Kevin Warwick and I chatted about the technology and its effects and he agrees that it is all possible. I have my mind read and have my thoughts played back to me, Very invaisive and traumatic.

I understand that the technology is invisible and mimics some symptoms of psychosis and have become an expert on the terms and details for a lay person. Better to be armed. It is difficult to know and distinguish what and who are the real targets. I know I am a targeted individual and the electromagnetic technology is being used in force. I have felt what can only be described as its full effects.

This technology has the ability to track me, zap me. The penetrating beams can control head movement, eye movement, disrupt speech, induce thoughts, induce voice to skull communication, put you to sleep, keep you awake for weeks at a time. Cause you to be confused, long and short term memory loss. The body itching and spasms are constant. The body pricks are like bee stings and vary in intensity. The symptoms are amazing.

All this arrogant behaviour from the people who are doing this. I am very concerned naturally

I have read masses about gps satalites may house these weapons. This is about the destruction of meaning. The effort to stay normal some days is beyond the scope of tolerablee endurance. The perps try very hard.

Most people are worried about being tortured - controlling the effects is difficult and openly discuss being killed slowly? Some digest the idea of whether its an implant or directed energy. I actually think its both - because implants need to be fed with energy and need instructions to manipulate the body - changing the persons state.

I have zoomed literally around the room as though I am on speed to actually being physically controlled to the point of standing still. I am now aware of what the technology can do and am aware that I am introduced to whole box of tricks. I think there is more to come. These guys are professional thugs. In my book they have done this before.

I know black psychiatry is involved. I will name and shame eventually and it has some counsellors and doctors involved. I have started compiling a file about these people to be used when the time comes. You don't get told to be vigilant and then then diagnosed with a frame of reference disorder from the same mouth - fishy that don't you think. Armchair psychiatry? I was also told by the cult help group to be vigilant too.

All in my book very very odd behaviour from professionals.

Chicken ( See part two)

deca
08-08-2007, 06:07 PM
Dr. Nick Begich on www.infowars.com tonight about mind control !!!!!!!

deca
09-08-2007, 12:22 AM
My take on gang stalking,

Gang stalking is to put fear on to the TI, it has been adapted out of harassment and intimidation, But instead of noticeable techniques they use suttle measures that only the TI would pick up on, As electronic harassment is very hard to prove so has this form of harassment involved.So not only
have you to put up with the electronic harassments but a hard to prove Gang stalking to deal with,The TI is left trying to explain all the internal suffering going on that sounds like the ramblings of a mentally ill person, They may think that the gang stalking is outside there body and have more of a chance of somebody else seeing it and believing it and understand whats going on. The real danger here is that the suttle ways of gang stalking makes out that people are just doing there normal business, so again the TI is re enforcing the idea of paranoid dulision to the people that they are trying to convince. Thus discrediting what they have told them about the electronic harassment.
It is a wild goose chase to deliberately focus the attention of the TI away from the technology and look paranoid in front of others and to isolate the victim.

I also believe that the more wilder or extreme that they make the gang stalking the less it will believed.

I think TI`s should focus on exposing the technology and lobbying the people
that should help to protect us and explain the dangers of having no control on
the research and deployment of these types of weapons.
And taken cautions to defend them selfs and record any gang stalking and do
the people for harassment or damage to property.

deca
09-08-2007, 01:19 AM
suggested ideas to combat gang stalking

beef up home security locks,alarm system

fit security cameras

buy personal alarm

don`t go to isolated areas alone

get a dog

take self defense classes

have a personal video camera on you,mobile phones sometimes have them built in

realize what the stalkers are trying to psychologically do to you, and rise above it and over come it.

lake
09-08-2007, 08:15 AM
I read that and that was scary - the illuminati book thing. also it says how it relates to govt or other organisations - complex?


This Pleiadian site visualises interestingly how programmers work to generate misleading thoughts to our minds etc:
http://www.cosmic-people.com/english/what_is.htm

They recommend leaving junk food and using live organic vegetarian food and fasting to purify body to toxine and parasite free.
So fighting NWO starts from fighting against our own addictions to everything and free ourself from all control, so we can heal others just by our presence..

Parasites may also control mind to eat unhealthy junk food and cause suicidal thoughts,.:
http://www.livescience.com/technology/060210_technovelgy.html
http://www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=336

Wondering can internal parasites be manipulated by external electromagnetic radiation to cause problems to person..? Propably..

This picture is also interesting.. we should clean our DNA to make our body work better, so body can regenerate on it's own..
http://www.cosmic-people.com/english/img_0500/obr688.gif

Essene Gospel Of Peace -book talks more about internal parasite cleaning which control our body..
http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html

So we should fast our worms out:
"Renew yourselves and fast. For I tell you truly, that Satan and his plagues may only be cast out by -fasting and by prayer. Go by yourself and fast alone, and show your fasting to no man. The living God shall see it and great shall be your reward. And fast till Beelzebub and all his evils depart from you, and all the angels of our Earthly Mother come and serve you. For I tell you truly, except you fast, you shall never be freed from the power of Satan and from all diseases that come from Satan. Fast and pray fervently, seeking the power of the living God for your healing. While you fast, eschew the Sons of Men and seek our Earthly Mother's angels, for he that seeks shall find.

chicken
09-08-2007, 10:05 AM
Deca and Lake - thanks for your posts.

Being attacked very heavily today. Know that mind being read. They know everything which is disgusting - every movement I make

Chicken

chicken
09-08-2007, 02:21 PM
When you actually sit down and think about the real implications of all this - well the mind is reeling from it.

Told my Dentist why I wanted a metal free mouth. He played along with that - now have two new teeth. Metal free - he says I can have the root filled tooth pulled out if I want and have a plate. Might do that too after I have explored other avenues.

Anyhow the smile is good - better I've had it in 31 years. However not much to smile about.

Chicken

deca
09-08-2007, 05:05 PM
Security firms working on devices to spot would-be terrorists in crowd

· Move to analyse behaviour and physiology from afar
· British expert warns of Minority Report scenario

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/09/terrorism

chicken
09-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Why is it that people who have electronically harassed sometimes complain or even point out that they are hassled by helicopters and aeroplanes?

Sometimes at home I get hassled by aeroplanes and helicopters. Yes - they fly over head even I know that. I was talking to another TI one night and this was recently - the helicopter in this case hoovered around for a bit - couldn't hear myself speak at one point

However there were no planes or helicopters before my harassment began. In April and May I was officially harassed like hanging over head. Loads of people came out of their houses one particular early evening as it was so low and noisy it began to be very obvious. It made me panic I was running around the house!

Today I went for a walk and a picnic which was nice. I had five different helicopters and one aeroplane circle overhead. Unfortunately I forgot the camcorder. It would have been a good moment to have caught it.

May try tomorrow

Well is this another moment to catch me off guard and make me delusional and paranoid. You see stuff like that does not bother me now. I think that it has been quiet - infact too quiet and this time - I am not taking the bait - however forever on stand - by.

What they call it fight or flight response?

Chicken :rolleyes:

chicken
09-08-2007, 07:41 PM
Since Mind control and Cults tend to go together thought I would add this

Abstracts of Articles in Psychological Journals concerning est and The Forum

David Shy's House of Knoweledge
By David Shy

Psychiatric disturbances associated with Erhard Seminars Training:
I. A report of cases.
L. L. Glass, M. A. Kirsch and F. N. Parris.
American Journal of Psychiatry 1977;134(3):245-7.
Erhard Seminars Training (est) is a large-group experience that is becoming widely available in this country. This is the first case report in the professional literature of psychiatric disturbance following est training. Five patients, only one of whom had a history of psychiatric disturbance, developed psychotic symptoms including grandiosity, paranoia, uncontrollable mood swings, and delusions. Further work is necessary to ascertain the factors that determine outcome in est.
Psychiatric disturbances associated with Erhard Seminars Training:
II. additional cases and theoretical considerations.
M. A. Kirsch and L. L. Glass.
American Journal of Psychiatry 1977;134(11):1254-8.
In a previous article, the authors reported on 5 individuals who developed psychoses after participation in Erhard Seminars Training (est). Two additional cases are reported, and the combined case material is discussed in terms of group and psychodynamic theories. The authoritarian est leadership style may mobilize in trainees an overdetermined and pathological reliance on identification with the aggressor. Such a mechanism may be central to the production of psychiatric casualties, particularly in individuals with defective ego boundaries. Future controlled research is necessary to ascertain the rate of occurrence of psychiatric disturbances associated with est and to test the authors' hypotheses.
Observations on 67 patients who took Erhard Seminars Training.
J. Simon.
American Journal of Psychiatry 1978;135(6):686-91.
The author describes the effects of Erhard Seminars Training (est) on 67 patients--49 who took est during the course of psychotherapy with him and 18 who were seen for evaluation, consultation, or treatment after having taken est. Responsiveness to est was assessed in terms of individually predefined psychodynamics and treatment goals. Of the 49 patients who took est during therapy, 30 were judged to show some positive response and 19 were rated unchanged. The author believes that est often has a strong influence toward psychotherapeutic movement in patients with good ego strength who are motivated to change.
A psychotic episode following Erhard Seminars Training.
A. C. Higgitt and R. M. Murray.
Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1983;67(6):436-9.
A case of a psychotic episode following Erhard Seminars Training is reported. This is the first reported case of adverse psychological effects from this type of training in Great Britain but it closely resembles previous reports from the United States of America. The possibility of a distinct syndrome is tentatively raised. The apparent rarity of such episodes is noted.
Characteristics of participants in a large group awareness training.
Y. Klar, R. Mendola, J. D. Fischer, R. C. Silver, J. M. Chinsky and B. Goff.
Journal of Consulting & Clinical Psychology 990;58(1):99-108.
A study was conducted to assess the psychosocial characteristics of individuals who become involved in large group awareness training (LGAT) programs. Prospective participants in The Forum, which has been classified as an LGAT, were compared with nonparticipating peers and with available normative samples on measures of well-being, negative life events, social support, and philosophical orientation. Results revealed that prospective participants were significantly more distressed than peer and normative samples of community residents and had a higher level of impact of recent negative life events compared with peer (but not normative) samples. Prospective participants also held preparticipation values more similar to those espoused by the LGAT than peer or normative samples, and the three groups failed to be distinguished by their levels of social support. The implications of the findings are considered for understanding participation in LGATs and other self-change promoting activities.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/landmark/landmark22.html

Chicken

deca
10-08-2007, 02:00 AM
The Electronic Warfare (EW) Working Group
http://www.house.gov/pitts/ew.htm

adzboarder
10-08-2007, 03:05 PM
that last article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html)
was on the cover of todays guardian new paper uk 9/2/07

but check out
http://www.truefacts.co.uk/articles/Mind01.html

just do some googles on mind control or electronic harrasment

we need to put a stop to this or some controls on this !!!!!!

Note that this story came out on 9/2/07

Thats 9+2+7=18 / 1+8=9

OR

9+2=11

Sorry I'm an occult numerology fan and the date this came out was clearly deliberate.

deca
10-08-2007, 03:24 PM
Yep I have had a lot of strange things happen with numbers through out my harassment, think mainly due how my brain associates,remembers(memory) things but don`t want to discuses this on this thread at the moment,I rather stick to the danger of this technology and how its been deployed with total disregard to humanity and raise awareness to others.

This technology can and has cause a lot of strange effects on me,but I don`t like talking about it as it distracts from the abuse of the technology and might play
into the "he has a mental illness or delusions and paranoia" into some people.

Hopefully I will write about it later,when this technology is out in the open.

I might pm you If I get build up of strange numbers which I seem to think have some importance.

Thanks

deca
10-08-2007, 04:11 PM
BAE profits soar on Iraq conflict

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6938085.stm

BAE concludes major US takeover
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6925037.stm

chicken
10-08-2007, 04:21 PM
I can see your point Deca

This technology can and has cause a lot of strange effects on me,but I don`t like talking about it as it distracts from the abuse of the technology and might play
into the "he has a mental illness or delusions and paranoia" into some people.

However how will people know what it can do if we don't talk about it - again it is that catch 22 that we find ourselves in. I know for myself that I need to be careful about what I say and do around people which will make one less spontaneous. This has affected my behaviour a lot - not myself in effect. I just hope that I can hang on. My husband finds it difficult too.

Whether we like it or not - this is the abuse of the technology and I know that when I explain it - ie write it down . I read it back to check it over and it sounds like I have a strange and peverse skew take on the world. However I cannot lie totally can I. The gang stalking as you said - I have repeated back some very strange things that the perps have done to me. Weird as they are - they did happen.

The audience has to be carefully chosen when feedback is given

I'd rather stick to the danger of this technology and how its been deployed with total disregard to humanity and raise awareness to others.

yes - of course but non TI's need to be aware that it can appear that we come across as paranoid and delusional because they are the dangerous effects of the technology. I personally don't think you can divorce one from the other.

You may not want to talk about it personally - but there are others who seem to be able to do that fairly easily. I don't mind explaining what has happened to me-of course not in front of a psychiatrist.

I still have a problem regarding what people can do for me - psychologist that I am being forced to see. I just don't know what to say. I am being forced to say I am ill? Am I? I don't think so - because I am not - the technology speaks for itsself - but its believing the poor sod who has been caught in the net. "I was told that I can do everything yourself" - yes but in the context it needs to be read - if you put it into this context - you end up shooting yourself in the foot quite dramatically. Because everything you do falls apart. It is so unfair

Campaign we must - but we need the full picture - not half of it. I am suffering and need help as much as everyone else who has been chosen to be a target of this. I am very afraid and just need to tread very carefully as it could go all tits up very quickly

Chicken

deca
10-08-2007, 05:23 PM
Because the technology is being developed and tested illegal on unconsensually
victims in the uk and around the world, the preps are using abusive methods to
cover it up and keep it unbelievable.Which will mean they are using every possible method to keep it quite, I.e gang stalking in some cases ok.

The only way that your suffering going to end in my opinion it the exsitance and abuse of the technology is exposed,The perps are not going to admit it, or stop
unless they are forced to

Now our biggest problem to exposing this is our creditability,and peoples lack of knowledge and understanding of this.

I am not saying that what you said did not happened,I have never have,or that its wrong to speak about it.Sometimes it might be advisable to speak to other victims in private, as they have had similar experience and you don`t need to bother about weather they will think you mad or ill,they will understand.

Us TI`s like most things have to push forward what we can prove, not always
what has happened,I know its shit, people not believing you when you speak the truth I understand that well,I sometimes have to bite my lip as it would be a step backwards,very frustrating.

My opinion is we need for none TI`s to understand the dangers of this and help us to but and end to this,Its to hard for TI`s to fight this by ourself s with all the suffering we receive on a daily bases.

Your posts are very interesting,good and informative:)

Your gang stalking is a direct cause of the preps covering the technology up.

chicken
10-08-2007, 06:50 PM
Thank-you for the vote of confidence regarding the content of my posts Deca :o

I speak or write with conviction. However skew it might look from a non TI. I do try to make sure that I am seeing it from all perspectives. It would very sad to leave reality totally. You see I have 90% of my being in the real world - but have this section of my life which is really weird. Of course the permeation could enlarge if I am not vigilant

You see I live in total reality where this is concerned. It is the non TI who does not live in reality. They can not see it. As I said to you before where this is concerned I have worked most of it out. I see a life coach who actually decides it is all going to now be opposite for you. Well me anyway. It has kind of gone like that. Considering all that I have been through I am still hanging in there and have worked masses out. How long I can do that I am not sure.

The opposites relate to gang stalking and e - harassment. I am not giving up and will continue to go for what I want - but under difficult circumstances. With my husband by my side. This is an area I need to be careful in and try not to drive him round the bend. I have once today already. But this is the reality of being a TI - ultra vigilance is needed.

Oh yeah first paragraph you write - totally believe.

I mentioned teeth thing to dentist and he understood why I wanted to go metal free. He said he has had a couple of patients who had electrical currents through fillings. I mentioned the word telephone tooth - and he was interested then. Anyway had to get on with my mouth so had to shut up then. Can't talk with someone elses fingers in your mouth can you - ;)

The only way that your suffering going to end in my opinion it the exsitance and abuse of the technology is exposed,The perps are not going to admit it, or stop unless they are forced to

yes - but difficult one that - we are years away from that are we not. America or even Belguim appears to be closer to that concept. In uk perhaps not. We are going to have it for a few more years more than they. I dread to think what will happen to me in the end. I need to get on with being human rather than being bolted ball and chain to the computer all the time.

Now our biggest problem to exposing this is our creditability,and peoples lack of knowledge and understanding of this.

ummm - very much so - yes unfortunately

I keep saying that about my blinkin visit to psychologist - no answer I need help with that one. I have even asked Eleanor White on the forum I have just joined. She may have an idea - since she is a veteran of this.

I am not saying that what you said did not happened,I have never have,or that its wrong to speak about it.Sometimes it might be advisable to speak to other victims in private, as they have had similar experience and you don`t need to bother about weather they will think you mad or ill,they will understand.

I agree - but how can I get about my daily life and explain the lack of movement with regards to actual moving around town without being perped as it were. What can I have then - agraphobia? I don't give a s...t what job I do as long as I survive. I am thinking about running courses from the house. Unfortunately this involves people. Thankfully I am insured personally for doing that.

Us TI`s like most things have to push forward what we can prove, not always
what has happened,I know its shit, people not believing you when you speak the truth I understand that well,I sometimes have to bite my lip as it would be a step backwards,very frustrating.

yep - got to be very careful - went to doc to get a new sick note - and I said I could not go to see psychologist as they would write it down - doc said come to some arrangement with them then. Oh god - it is so blinkin difficult. I do not want to go backwards myself. Want to move forward and even if at snails pace.

I tell you what - all that I was given regarding the coach was well executed and well thought out. I have been well decieved. Not much I can do now is there?

Press on....

My opinion is we need for non TI`s to understand the dangers of this and help us to but and end to this,Its to hard for TI`s to fight this by ourself s with all the suffering we receive on a daily bases.

On the other forum I was on earlier they were discussing the idea of having ones thing or problem either diagnosed as either TI Syndrome or hypersensitivity to electromagnetism - I am afraid both of those things brought a wave of negative comments.

God - the suffering - a lot of talk about the too on the other forum I told you about. Lots of practical advice. Do you live near Wakefield - another TI lives that way.

Signing off, Interesting as usual

Chicken

chicken
10-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Another thought - bet the perps are listening?

"vicitm's have increased to over 30 millions, 75% is unreported. there are vicitm's that don't even know they are a victim. some victim's are only terrorized for a little while, not long term, like crimes for housing discrimination, forced to move, lost of job, etc."

This was a thought that I had some time ago - regarding this situation.

However some victims suffering goes on for some time. The situation has had me try to pop me clogs twice - alright this could be seen as a real problem for the viewer of this act. Of course in real terms it leaves me with a problem - the perception of others and what the mind controllers have planned next. I understand the perception of others - but not what is planned next. I don't have a crystal ball.

I see that I have no evidence but have verbal incidences. It is the perfect crime this. I would be seen to be off the wall - paranoid and delusional. I just need to be careful - unless you are in this situation you can not do justice to explain it to anyone. I was told not to go to the papers - some victims may have enough evidence to totally destroy and cripple the criminals and whoever else involved.

This worries me that I could end up a victim for life - you see once you have been in a mental unit - you don't loose that history - it stays with you.

I feel like that its like being terrorised by a hit man - its like you never will be free of this.

A normal doctor when doing medical tests will essentially not find anything wrong with you as being electronically induced. But the psychologist possibly could say something different. These people do not take any kind of test to say something different - to show actual evidence you are ill.

I actually consider with the p docs limited knowledge on this phenomena that it is however negiligant and incompetance on their part not to investigate this further. Malpractice for forcing, locking up a victim in a mental hospital without any knowledge of the situation. Even not listening and seeing the true situation of all this - is very worrying

A brain chemisty check for schizophrenia might prove it. Study what, how, does the brain work with schizophrenia. MEDICAL PROOF is part of a vicitm's evidences, any brain damage, nerve damage, bone and cartilage damage's resulting from microwave, radio wave, radiation,, electronic weapons. (Medical untapped resources).

A lot of TI's symptoms are common - vk2 (voice to skull), subliminal suggestions, brainwashing techniques - they cause pain to parts of the body as well as the head. This is only a few - there are many that are being reported wordwide

What a lot of people cannot get their head around is why take all that effort over someone. Some are reporting 10 years of being attacked. Someone told me the other day someone had been attacked for 30 years?

I get a lot of repitition - a repeat of it - over and over again. Since I have plugged myself in - listening to lots of music - the hissing in the ears has almost stopped. I can still hear it on ocaison. The induced music has stopped - used to get this in my feet and body. I kid you not. No I am not barking. This is absolutely true.

There is a huge history of mind control abuses around the world - Mostly my knowledge extends to America and the UK

Dr Nick Begich demonstrated this technology to the European Parliament in 1998 or 1999 from what I have read. In court cases this technology could be demonstrated in a high court of law - then being banned forever. Thousands of criminals hunted down and dealt with.

Some vicitm's think the criminals are protected, this is wrong, it is kidnapping, assault and battery with a concealed weapon, attempted murder, attempted mass murder, child molesting, gang stalking with intent to commit murder, identity theft, etc. Anybody that tells you otherwise is lying.

What they need is a from the front attack - the criminals would then run and hide trying to cover their tracks - what we need is this equipment demonstrated in a court of law by any means that is possible.

deca
11-08-2007, 02:48 AM
look now you see,On the other forum I was on earlier they were discussing the idea of having ones thing or problem either diagnosed as either TI Syndrome or hypersensitivity to electromagnetism - I am afraid both of those things brought a wave of negative comments.

simple divide and conquer,discredit,torture,abuse,mind alter,harassment

no media coverage, ridicule.

TI`s are fucked

We have no chance of beating this by ourself`s

So we have to win over none TI`s to believe us and help us.

What are the perps doing to us!!!!!!!

Why is it that a lot of TI`s believe that its small local groups doing them in
and there perps are known to them, yet the same perps have vast sums of resources and access to advanced technology that can track and target them all around the world?

If it was a few local criminals, they would not spend hundreds of thousands of
pounds harassing you,They pay a junkie or hard man to screw you over.

wake up, Its a military/government agency doing this!!!.
Who else has the power/technology/network/resources/the need/able to keep it secret
They want you to think its joe blogs down the street that gave you a funny look then ordered some souped up microwave mind hacking kit off ebay, and has nothing better to do that zap you all day and he is a local cult member and they think its a laugh to gang stalk you all day and also the local Mental health guy is the head of the a cult and needs to hook you on some medicine.

I am not taking the piss, I thought a lot worse when I was first attacked.

deca
11-08-2007, 04:21 AM
Another thought - bet the perps are listening?

I have them on me every second of the day. At least One,V2k is on all the time when they get pissed of talking,I get white noise,Thought reading on all the time. ok

chicken
11-08-2007, 04:52 AM
I know it is difficult Deca - I feel I am backed into a corner right now - not sure what to do............

simple divide and conquer,discredit,torture,abuse,mind alter,harassment

no media coverage, ridicule.

TI`s are fucked

We have no chance of beating this by ourself`s

So we have to win over none TI`s to believe us and help us.

What are the perps doing to us!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad

I see wot you are saying regarding the concept of smaller groups and its relationship to the bigger picture. All related to the government possibly. It could still be related to a large cult with vast amounts of money.

I am being so sucked into this. I can't fink straight anymore. Even though I am thinking straight. I just don't know where the base line is now - its soddin moved - I can't even see it.

Oh - I want my old life back - wahhhhhhh! I am not joking either.

If it was a few local criminals, they would not spend hundreds of thousands of pounds harassing you,They pay a junkie or hard man to screw you over.

nice - I am sure. But a lot of this is locally done. So its covering kids to old age pensioners. I need help seriously - I am sailing close to the wind.

Did you read the info about the helicopter/plane harassment?

The last bit did make me laugh - otherwise I will cry in desperation

Chicken

deca
11-08-2007, 11:58 PM
I have noticed when the perps sound loud and I here them in my mind were
I would normally talk or think to myself, if I put my finger to the top of my addams apple it vibrates to the time of there words/sounds Anybody else notice this?

I came across this at nasa website



http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=04-056

The electronic “signature” put out by your muscles is unique, just like fingerprints, Jorgensen says. Identifying the various signals that translate into different sounds and words is the challenge the researchers face now. Not only is every word different, but each person pronounces those words a bit differently, too. Regional accents and individual pronunciation create big differences in the signal.


so it would make sense if they can record it,then they could play it back!!!
or emulate the electronic unique “signature” put out by my muscles

deca
12-08-2007, 12:26 AM
I get it now why I did not hear much v2k at the start of my attack, bastards
were mapping my thoughts and studying and analyzing my electric unique pulses, just felt weird.Probably why they stress you out, your bodys voltage
increases. going to look into it.also I was getting a lot of loops and stuff repeated over and over again in the early days.

deca
12-08-2007, 12:34 AM
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chicken
12-08-2007, 03:31 AM
Deca - last three posts - 10/10. Excellent stuff

Chicken

deca
12-08-2007, 05:55 PM
Look what is it, Theres scientist like Dr. Nick Begich and others who have done the research and can prove that government agencies/military have been research and development of these mind and body weapons, Some parts of the military almost admit having these weapons.
There are loads of victims around the world claiming that these weapons are used against them.

I like many other TI`s have been through the mental health system and all that they think is that we are not mentally ill but have a weird belief system ok!!!!

Yet people still deny that this is going on and refuse to do anything about it!!!!!

Can people not see the danger of having these weapons deployed in our streets
or is just me!!!!!

Is it that you do see the danger and you want f**k all to do with because you might get zapped !!!!! reading about the daily abuse/torture us TI`s receive I can understand that.

please let me know,I can`t understand the lack of reaction of none TI`s:confused:

deca
12-08-2007, 07:32 PM
Flashlight Weapon Makes Targets Throw Up


http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,292271,00.html
emit super-bright pulses of light at rapidly changing wavelengths, causing disorientation, nausea and even vomiting in whomever it's pointed at.

chicken
12-08-2007, 09:09 PM
One thing also that has hit my mind was that the secrecy of this technology. I did not even know about it existence before this - what with being hit and now a target, there seems to be self perpetuating circle on this subject.

Targets are not believed - its like a myth - but it is a reality too.

The average person does not know about it - one would if you were hit with it. You can tell the difference certainly from anything else that you may have had in your life.

Politically there is secrecy surrounding the technology. remote viewing of a human is disgusting. If this is the govenment? well my view is that it could be - but many targets are coming out of the woodwork with other stories that link to other agencies that might be directly or indirectly linked with the government. Sort of a blind alley - which actually maybe more helpful to the victim. The psychiatric models for this relate to the govt or MI5

I also actually think that it is alot to do with criminal gangs working alongside the e-harassment which could be linked to the services of this country ie doctors, nurses etc. Linking it with the mental health units across the country. Remember recently car blown up by doctors in Glasgow - one came from hospital where I live!

My situation relates to mental health as they are the perps in this case.

I've never heard of all this until now. It also struck me that the ownership of such technologies could be bought and sold and used without taking into consideration the opinion of the public

Democracy is disrupted because the future of the world would now be living in a fake democracy. Alot of forums who have people who think out of the box are in evident. I actually believe that this is the truth rather than those who are the majority go about their sad lives believing they are the norm. Looking down on others as being odd and strange because of those thoughts

Governments owning secret technologies shape opinions of the public in a covert way which is actually blatent.

My feelings are that as I live in Britain. The culture is a major hindrence - old fashioned ideas and this idea of national sovereignty. But I think this is changing rapidly.

I once taught kids in schools about conglomerates and large media owners. The media has a way to shape ideas and thoughts of the public - this is partially why we don't hear about this technology perhaps.

All this has to be loosened up not tightened. People are just not thinking for themselves as they should.

To me the future stinks of a mixture of George Orwell 1984 and the Matrix - So if you don't follow the norm then they are identified and then categorized and changed by using synthetic technology techniques into the right kind of person. Sophisticated psychlogical modelling as part of the process - tailored especially for you.

Chicken

chicken
12-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Deca - this is in response to something you said last night

I'm sure you won't believe me with this thought, I feel compelled to say something about how the VK2 works. Remember I have VK2 as well - but mine relates to music - my husband is a musician. Perps are probably waiting for me to shout about it in public - the effects I get. Hardly likely am I - but it is the communication effectiveness of it? Like I get attacked in the hands - leave husband. No I am not imagining it

When you listen to anything in your head through to the ears, the perps can make you hear anything they want to inside your own head.

So manipulating your thoughts and behaviour. You are not sure what is your thought anymore. Seperating one from the other is difficult. "Mind f..ked" you called it

Think of them in a room... full of technology equipment. One piece of equipment controls your body, another the mind, and another your environment (people and things around you).

Now rearrange your thinking as to what is happening to you in those terms. It isn't what you think. But it is not being done in the manner you think it is. They are manipulating your reality.

They want something from you and they want you to think you are surrounded. Actually this last sentence fits me well

I am in the system and its early days for me. I hear you when you say you have to concentrate to sort it out. I feel for you on that score.

What I would like you to do is hear what I say and absorb it. The scale of gang stalking is real - its a set up. This is why I got the response I did from that cult help group about the area I lived in. Also the mental health system up here in the county I live in is huge and thriving. It actually serves three counties

Chicken

chicken
12-08-2007, 09:56 PM
You also mentioned about living in the future and getting on with it rather than working out why and all that - ok

You have been into your situation for three years. I am sixth months in remember that. Please don't think I am being rude - please don't think that at all.

I can see that you are many years into this and you have realized just what they can manipulate and the methods that are used to do it. Your reality is what they have created for you. I have worked some of mine out

What I just don't know it yet what the future plan is yet. Yes - they have had me literally running around in circles but I know you are doing the best you can to tell me that and it happened to you. It is awful what they do to us.

I fell for one of their biggest tricks in their arsenol of mind control manipulations. The suicide thing - they have now made me very aware of all that can happen. What I am scared about is the next one. I need to be on my guard

It is not your fault they have created this reality for you and myself. But the outcome is not going to be in your favor my friend. You haven't figured out who "them" is yet. And my heart goes out to you if you think you have. You say its BAE if I got that right - I hope I have and the govt

You see I have - because I have met mine face to face and the situation was discussed. I thought I knew and they thought I did too. I now do as the concept of mind control has fully passed through my brain. I just bluffed them at the time. It made one perp react in a particular way which made the tatics more apparent. I think actually that this has made it worse not better. Ignorance is bliss is that what they say?

Chicken

deca
12-08-2007, 11:49 PM
Hello Everyone (sorry if a duplicated email, but the perps are sabotaging my efforts!):

Mr. Timothy R. White, has offered to help TIs as an expert witness & an organizer in NY!
Please before contacting him read his testimony (2nd signature) on the petition below, Over 40 signatures in just one day & counting!

He wrote me yesterday: "In order to get support to stop this I am asking the confirmed victims in the greater New York to assist me in this by being available form meetings and rallies with other TI's, by contacting their local legislatures directly via phone, mail, e-mail,signing petitions, the one you sent is ideal for us [ it is below]. I am also supporting TV ads to air across the century. I am also a ten year victim and know a lot about this technology. My prayers and thanks go out to you for what you are doing to support the victims of the U.S. Government's blunder to date."

Help is on the way! Cheers.



--
Collective Conscientious Coping: Communicate, Cooperate, Collaborate, Consolidate, & Congregate!

If you have signed, thank you, if not please sign it now & get 5 additional supporters to sign it:

"BAN ELECTRONIC WARFARE ON CIVILIANS"
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/synergy?e

Thank you for your support. Note, I do not own www.ipetitions.com & no donations are necessary!

The more we do the raise awareness the better

deca
13-08-2007, 12:37 AM
Chicken,

This is what I do stay alive,hold on to what I have got and love,learn as much as I can, raise awareness in a way that people can see that this is a real and people are suffering and need help and support which they are not getting in the amount they should and in the way they need and also realizing that this sort of technology needs to be exposed for the greater good of humanity.

This is not easy as the perps are doing what they can to stop us from doing the above.

I am lucky in some ways the mental health team that I can call when things go bad can give some support just having them around can lesson an attack,they don`t understand but can help me through bad times and get me on my feet.
There are good people out there,you just have to approach them in the right way so there a help not hinders you.

Unfortunately the perps have done a write number on you, you don`t know who you can trust and you have a lot of understandable fear and isolations

Also you have researched a lot and meeting a load of other TI`s

So I feel for you, you have a lot to take in.

Remember I am under a lot of manlipuation so I might not be the best person
to answer you, best to take info from a lot of sources and take what fits your
situation and works for you.Also sometimes taken a break from the internet and try to keep your social interactions, and keep your life to gather, very easy to let them slip.The more you live a so called normal life,the more you beat the perps.;)

chicken
13-08-2007, 01:42 AM
I sense you are a good person from what you write.

This is what I do stay alive,hold on to what I have got and love,learn as much as I can, raise awareness in a way that people can see that this is a real and people are suffering and need help and support which they are not getting in the amount they should and in the way they need and also realizing that this sort of technology needs to be exposed for the greater good of humanity.

I understand

I don't know where to start - because lost

am lucky in some ways the mental health team that I can call when things go bad can give some support just having them around can lesson an attack,they don`t understand but can help me through bad times and get me on my feet.
There are good people out there,you just have to approach them in the right way so there a help not hinders you.


yes you are lucky from that perspective. My lot are corrupt. Not all I am sure - but will I be able to work that out no? Is this the crises team? that you call on - or named people you know

Unfortunately the perps have done a write number on you, you don`t know who you can trust and you have a lot of understandable fear and isolations

This is very true. If I loose my husband - thats it - i'm f...ked. I'd have to go home to the south. I will die from isolation and fear. They hurt me lots

Remember I am under a lot of manlipuation so I might not be the best person to answer you, best to take info from a lot of sources and take what fits your situation and works for you.

Thank-you for challenging - it was hard but it made me think that what has happened did happen even though you have your perspective. The intention was to unhinge me and then not trust others.

I am shocked that someone could do that to someone else. "As she said the coach - I don't take it personally - its the best isn't it" laughing.

I think you are very intelligent and have done well - thanks

I think that you are right - but the next time if they get me and have put life together one will fall hard - thats the normal idea isn't it. Remember they read my thoughts. Well that is the idea :o

Chicken

chicken
13-08-2007, 12:15 PM
Deca - more thoughts
It occurs to me that one of the reasons we are having a difficult
time drawing the non-targeted individual over to our side
- issue of mind control is:

1 - Outrageous effects in too much detail - mind reading etc.....
2 - Overwhelming information - too complex to understand. Book length to explain it
3 - Covers too many areas - ie military weapons to psychology
4 - Not well defined enough in terms of definition and relates to mental illness
5 - We can do it ourself and easily label ourselves as mentally ill by talking too much and not filtering out info. They jump to conclusion straight away we are nut job
6 - The average man or woman on the street has any idea that this is possible - technology. Its a matter of education I think
7 - Perhaps we need to gain confidence of non TI first before all is revealed - take it slowly
8 - Communication - key to all of this I think too
9 - Physical affects rather than mental effects should be discussed with emphasis on the use of technology. Don't know if that makes us sensitive to electromagnetic waves - but it is a start. Move from there then
10 - I think that a clear definition of what it is that is causing this needs to be defined. From what I have read - alot of theorising is done. As to technology - how its delivered. Is it microwaves, ultrasound etc?
11 - Why is it being done? well I know who mine are. Organisation and the bigger picture maybe not. No actual evidence of one organisation etc. Its pure speculation. I use "them" or "they" sounds unreal
12 - "Remote" - to undefined allows others who we are telling to play with the information further and read into it their own conclusions and evaluations
13 - This actually fits to gang stalking too - no evidence theory
14 - "Manipulating" someone from afar - sounds far fetched even to me as a target
15 - Use of the word "implant" does not help credibility of sufferer
16 - "Mood changes" in the individual - concerned about this discussion - mental illness territory
17 - Not a good idea to talk about induced dreams and hallucinations to a non TI - they really will think we are off the wall then. I do not suffer from this thankfully
18 - Over head flying helicopters - umm difficult one that. Non TI will think you really are ga ga!


Any way thats what I think. Would like to hear from non TI please

Chicken

chicken
13-08-2007, 09:34 PM
Please sign it - everyone. Very important to do this. Tell your friends and colleques and family

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Tortureinuk/#detail


Electromagnetic Microwave Weapons are used in Britain on British Citizens. (Google it) They used the weapon on Suddam Hussain in 1992. This weapon has been developed and kept underground since the second world war. The truth is kept a secret as it is in humane and quite unbelievable that this is happening to 100s if not 1000s of British people as you read this. Victims need to come forward and stand together and the government need to reveal the truth to the people.

Many thanks:)

Chicken

chicken
19-08-2007, 01:52 PM
When I was sectioned I only had my mobile to research on and just looked all sorts of stuff. I just had a look at loads of things - which kind of fitted my situation at the time

This might be a bit heavy - but will direct you to look at the right places to expand on what I read into it. Bear in mind I was induced to try and top myself for no reason

I started looking at the concept of Eugenics, nature versus nurture, selective breeding, controlled human reproduction, population control. Extinction of the weakest, racial purity = positive eugenics, negative eugenics = non reproduction. Crypto eugenics = healthy marriages

I also looked at Quantum immortality = the quantum suicide machine, which is a variation of Shrodingers cat experiment. Which has with all things different interpretations attached to it. Basics are that it is a "thought" experiment.

I am mind read - I assume that this is from a satallite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_immortality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat

The world we percieve is an illusion created by someone who does not love us


Plato = It was suggested by Plato and others around this time that human reproduction should be controlled by authorities. Peoples feelings would not be hurt by the awareness of selection principles.

http://www.philosophypages.com/ph/plat.htm - read some of the off shoots

Pseudo scientific theories plus social practices can equal racial purity from what I have read

This is what I think we suffer from "DUALISM"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism - Look under Mind/Matter and Mind/Body dualism

Quote:
Dualism = mental events and physical events are totally different kinds of events
. Mental and physical events - gang stalking and e-harassment

The basic relationship between the mental and physical processes and consciousness

mental events reduced to physical events?
physical events reduced to mental?

Phenonenalism came to mind. Wasn't there a film about this where John Travolta starred. Isn't he a Scientologist?

If you believe in heaven and hell, good or bad this amounts to dualism.

Dualism - avoid believing this if you accept phenomenalism which holds that everything is mental, so nothing is physical.

The physics of immortality?
mental events are not publicly observable - this is what we suffer from.

You are aware of your own experiences and know the differences between the mental and physical.
*Not publicly observable
*Subjective
*Space and velocity

What we describe is reminiscent of things that occurred in Nazi Germany prior to WWII. The Nazis began by tormenting and abusing the Jews in their own homes. When they complained to the authorities, they were called crazy and arrested or thrown into mental hospitals. We can never forget what happened in Nazi Germany is exactly the same as what you are describing. It just makes you wonder what is going on in this country and what is the goal of these so called human beings


The NWO is a contemplated structural reorganization, not yet necessarily defined in terms of philosophical objectives being sought. That's how I see it, so far. Some would say that reducing the population is a sought-for objective. Others would say that political and economic streamlining is all that is sought. If someone could do some scholarly research in these areas, it would be appreciated.

I also looked at meta physics = which is a combination of philosphy, physics, psychology, biology and the brain. In terms that I understand relates to ones nature of reality

Philosophy of Perception = the mind, our cognitive processing, the events we percieve. Complicated that one

The concept of illusion = trying to make out that an external world does not exist and that it is all in your head. Isn't that what a pyschologist tries to make you believe

I might have joined a couple of things together. But these are my thoughts. I bet the perps are enjoying my educated thought processing


Chicken

deca
19-08-2007, 06:20 PM
beat v2k with these (voice to skull or microwave hearing)
add a mp3 player to have a mobile system
hear what you want and still be able to hold a conversation or aware of sounds around you:D
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deca
19-08-2007, 06:22 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/904/jammerxp4.jpg

Take 2 lengths of insulated copper wire tie together at one end making sure the bare wire does not touch(does not make a electric circuit ). Bare wire 1cm ether side of knot for 3 cm then connect other ends to a 3.5mm Mono jack Plug that fits a headphone socket.

Make a sound file up one channel white noise other channel high pitch whaling noise
burn to cd or download to mp3 player
plug in adapter that Allows two 3.5mm mono jack plugs,
one carrying the left and one carrying the right channel
of a stereo signal, to be connected to a 3.5mm stereo socket
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1215&doy=14m8&C=SO&U=strat15
put on wire copper neck less so knot is at middle of the back of neck use wire tie or similar to tighten wire at front of neck plug in to adapter, plug in headphones press play.
Make sure you hear white noise through headphones.
Note do not ware metal neck less when using jammer.

Make white noise
use soundmasker
http://www.vectormediasoftware.com/soundmaskerhome.htm
can be used buy its on with headphones until jammer is built




Maybe we could update this to be more effective!!!!

***** needs to played on a cd player with a repeat track function*******

I manly were it at night time,the instructions that I got for it reconmend to were it 24/7 for a month....that was impossible for me to do

It would be easy with a sound editor to change the white nose channel to something else of your own making or to some other music , you need to covert it to a mono recording

also white noise does not decode to mp3 very well sort of treats it as hiss and does not render it.

deca
23-08-2007, 02:51 AM
Engineering suggests that we could soon be able to diagnose the onset of many brain diseases by analysing the tiny magnetic fields produced by neuron activity in the brain.

A team of investigators from the University of Minnesota Medical School in Minneapolis, US, led by Professor Apostolos P. Georgopoulos, has been analysing the magnetic charges released when neuronal populations in our brains 'couple'. By comparing the patterns of tiny magnetic charges in healthy brains to those afflicted with common diseases such as Alzheimer's, the team has been able to identify the patterns commonly associated with these debilitating diseases.

60 Second Test Could Help Early Diagnosis Of Common Brain Diseases
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070822093120.htm


good find chicken

deca
23-08-2007, 03:09 AM
http://sysos.co.uk/Brighton/ThoughtReadingCapacity.doc

THOUGHT READING CAPACITY

John J. McMurtrey, M. S., Copyright 2004,1 30 March 2004

Co-authorship towards significant professional publication is negotiable in whole or in part of the present edition. Please email Johnmcmurt@aol.com.
INTRODUCTION


The Bible attributes to God the capacity to know the thoughts of men.1 Most scientists are unaware that thought reading by electroencephalogram (EEG) was reported as feasible in work begun over 30 years ago, 2 which more recently a number of groups confirm. This review focuses on literature relating to technologic thought reading. The discrimination of more general cognitive states, brainwave capture methods, and evidence of covert thought reading development are also treated.
METHODS OF SPECIFIC CONCEPT RECOGNITION


The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in 1972 contracted Pinneo & Hall for work that a 1975 US technical report entitled “Feasibility Study For Design of a Biocybernetic Communication System.” The study concludes “that it is feasible to use the human EEG coincident with overt and covert speech as inputs to a computer for such communication” (covert speech is defined as verbal thinking.)2 The 149 page report2 states: “enough information has been obtained . . . to specify the optimum parameters to use for an EEG operating system, and to suggest future research towards that end.”

Pinneo & Hall utilized templates for EEG word recognition constructed by averaging EEG patterns evoked by 9 words in each subject for visually presented words, and primarily utilized 4 electrodes over brain language areas for prediction. People with high hemispheric lateralization had EEG patterns for some words that frequently classified 100% correctly, regardless of the number of repetitions with stability over time. Over all words, however, classification accuracy for these people was 85% for overtly, and 72% for covertly spoken words. Across all subjects specific word EEG patterns were classified 35% correctly for overtly, and 27% correctly for covertly spoken words, but more people were in the 70-100% classification range than in the 10-15% range. 3 Subjects with low hemispheric laterality, particularly stutterers had near chance EEG classification. EEG concept recognition was actually 10-15% higher for pictures rather than words. Phrases containing similarly articulated words or homonyms were better recognized than these words alone without context.

Suppes et. al. have the most extensive recent publications supporting and reporting specific EEG thought recognition.3 4 5 6 7 This work largely compares recognition improvement methods with some emphasis on a relative invariance of EEG concept representations across individuals. The procedures generally utilized Fourier transforms of both templates and test samples with an optimal EEG frequency window, or filter selected for each subject. EEG word templates generated by averaging each subject’s responses (50 trials) at single electrodes resulted in less recognition3 than recognition templates averaged across all subjects (700 trials)4 for bipolar electrode difference, which produced recognition rates over seven words of 100% for visual images and auditory words.5 5 However, for visually presented words, recognition templates generated by excluding from the average the subject tested was better--75% than averaging within subject or over all subjects. The waveforms for each presentation modality were very similar, and when recognition templates averaged across subjects in the modalities of visual images or words were utilized for recognizing other modalities (visual images or words & auditory), recognition still was generally 60-75%. Such results were despite inclusion of three subjects with English as a second language, and obvious hemispheric laterality confounds important to Pinneo & Hall,6 such as one left-handed and another ambidextrous subject. These results indicate a relative invariance of EEG representations for different concepts between subjects and perception modality, when averaging out and filtering noise. Matching templates to words is derived by template and word waveform amplitude difference sampled at 814 points as squared and summed (Pinneo & Hall had 255 samples per word.)

Also examined are brain wave patterns for sentences. Recognizing the first sentence word by the same words individually presented, and the same words in sentences when cut and pasted was successful at a 50% recognition rate (with 8.3% as chance.)4 Even when excluding a subject from the averaged template, over 90% recognition was obtained for 48 sentences, as visually presented one word at a time.6

Averaged unfiltered auditory responses are classified 100% correctly by the superposition of 3 sine waves chosen from the frequency domain maxima for each word.7 The same procedure when averaged across subjects and presentation modalities (visual images, visual and auditory words) classifies 100% of the words by 5 frequencies per word, while data fit decreased only 6% compared to the filtered templates. Syllable classification is less successful, with six correct classifications of eight from superposition of nine frequencies.

A Korean group reports yes/no decision discrimination of 86% by spatio-temporal cross correlation.8 This was achieved from 4 electrodes over bilateral frontal and occipital sites. Differential equation measures of synchronization rate and average polarity also had high recognition rates of 78% and 81% respectively.

Other investigators publish magnetoencephalographic (MEG) visual specific word recognition above chance significantly by 27% for recognition and 44% for accuracy.9 Although these results were only somewhat above chance, MEG also was less successful for Suppes et al.,3 4 and a speech recognition optimized artificial intelligence system was utilized without filters or recognition templates. The authors expressed surprise that any recognition was possible, considering that input utilized only a simple technique; root mean squares of foci.

There is apparently a Russian report of specific EEG word recognition before 1981.10 The work is only known from a science reporter, and specifically unavailable, but is mentioned to aid this report’s discovery, and because of the claim that specific words contain category information, which has interest for word category differentiation studies.

There are also patents of EEG thought recognition. Electroencephalographic (EEG) instant detection by syllables of “a content of category which the testee wishes to speak” quotes Kiyuna et. al. Patent # 5785653 “System and method for predicting internal condition of live body.” 11 A stated use: “the present invention may be use (sic) to detect the internal condition of surveillance in criminal investigation” by EEG. NEC Corporation licensed this patent. Mardirossian Patent # 6011991 “Communication system and method including brain wave analysis and/or use of brain activity” includes remote EEG communication with armed forces or clandestine applications.12 This patent proposes transmitter capable skin implants, utilizes artificial intelligence, and is licensed by Technology Patents, LLC.

A further study of brain blood flow by Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI), confirms that viewing pictures of objects activates specifically identifiable brain patterns. Comparing the distributed brain activity observed by fMRI for viewing faces, houses, cats, chairs, bottles, shoes, and scissors were 90-100% correct in all two-category comparisons (with 50% as chance.) 13 Even though all these objects were described as categories because different types were viewed, discrimination of these objects generally requires an adjective, so that the distinctions qualify as specific concepts.

Numerous fMRI studies show similarly activated brain regions for viewing images or words, and hearing words. Viewing pictures of objects or the word naming them activates similar distributed brain systems for storing semantic knowledge,14 15 16 and auditory presentation also shares the same17 or a similar18 system with that of viewing these words. These studies give anatomical basis for the high cross modality recognition rates of concepts observed by Suppes et al.5 7

PHYSIOLOGIC DISCRIMINATION OF WORD CATEGORIES

Broca and Wernicke originally defined anatomy pertinent to aphasia resulting from brain injury.19 More recently very selective agnosias of brain lesion patients, which result in an inability to name or recognize specific object classes, are described.20 21 22 Many word category differentiation reports reviewed below were initiated to explain and substantiate such deficits. This literature is consistent with specific word recognition, because word responses are averaged by category, and distinguished with only statistical inspection without template generation or specific comparison required for thought recognition. Brain cell assembly activation provides a theoretical framework for both specific concept recognition, and word category discrimination.23



Electroencephalogram and Magnetoencephalogram Word Category Discrimination

Evoked EEG responses discriminate nouns and verbs. Nouns elicit more theta power than verbs, but verbs have greater theta coherence decrease, particularly in frontal versus posterior sites.24 Noun waveforms generally are more negative than verb responses at post-stimulus intervals of both 200-350 and 350-450 milliseconds (msec.)25 26 27 28 Ambiguous noun/verbs are more negative than unambiguous nouns or verbs in the early latency interval, and when context indicates noun meaning versus verb use, are more negative over both these latency windows.28 Anterior-posterior electrode activity also differs for ambiguous versus unambiguous nouns and verbs.28 29

Action verb waveforms differ in amplitude,26 and central versus posterior distribution compared to visual nouns,30 with particular 30 Hz increase over the motor cortex for action verbs, and over the visual cortex for visual nouns.31 32 Face, arm, or leg action verbs differ in amplitude by time interval, and activity increases over the specific corresponding motor strip locus as well as by frontal electrode.33 34 Low resolution electromagnetic tomography finds irregular verb activity more in the left superior and middle temporal gyri, while regular verbs are more active in the right medial frontal gyrus at 288-321 msec.35 Irregular verbs respond more in the left ventral occipito-temporal cortex than regular verbs at ~340 msec. by MEG, which localizes perpendicular sources undetectable by EEG.36 Regular verb activity modulates more the left inferior prefrontal region including Broca’s area at ~470 msec with MEG, but irregular verbs have more right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex activity at ~570 msec. Priming evoked patterns occur for regular but not irregular verbs,37 38 while incorrect irregular noun plural39 and verb participle40 41 waveforms differ from that of incorrect regular forms.

Abstract word waveforms onset more positively about 300 msec., persist longer at lateral frontal sites, and distribute more to both hemispheres compared to concrete words.26 42 43 β-1 frequency coherence during memorization of concrete nouns indicates left hemisphere electrode T5 as the main brain processing node. 44 Left hemisphere electrode T3 is similarly important for abstract nouns, which have more frontal area contribution, and massive right posterior hemisphere coupling. Abstract versus concrete memorization distinctly changes other frequency bands,45 46 and theta synchronization predicts efficient encoding.47

Content words yield a more negative peak at 350-400 msec. than functional grammar words, with a subsequent occipital positivity that function words lack, and more electrode and hemisphere differences from 400- 700 msec. 48 49 In sentences, the late component of function words resembles preparatory slow waves that apparently subserve their introductory and conjunctive grammatical function.50 Other studies show content versus function word differences at additional intervals and more bi-hemispheric effects,51 with right visual field advantage for function words.52 MEG distinguishes functional grammar words, or content words such as multimodal nouns, visual nouns, or action verbs, each by response strength and laterality at intervals of both ~100 and greater than 150 msec.53

Proper name amplitudes peak more just after 100 msec. negatively, and just after 200 msec. positively than common nouns, while one’s own name accentuates these peaks relative to other proper names with further positive and negative components.54 Proper names, animals, verbs, and numerals show electrode site differences: proper name temporal negativity extends to inferior electrodes bilaterally; verbs and animal names are less negative and similar, but verbs have left frontal inferior positivity; while numerals have less waveform negativity, and bilateral parietal positivity.55 Non-animal objects are more negative in both the 150-250 and 350-500 msec. intervals than animals, while animals are more positive in the 250-350 msec. interval.56 57 Animals are more positive in approximately the same latter interval than vegetables/fruits, while vegetables/fruits are more negative in about the earlier interval (150-250 msec.), and have stronger frontal region current sources than animals.58 Animals in natural scenes evoke different waveforms than just natural scene or building pictures.59 Responses to words for living things are less negative over the right occipital-temporal region than artifactual objects, while pictorial presentations of the same items further differ and have hemisphere effects noted as unreported.60 EEG waveforms for specific meanings could be as discretely categorized as indicated by the reported but unspecified Russian work, which claims that “the waves for such concepts as “chair”, “desk”, and “table” are all overlapped by another wave that corresponds” to the concept of furniture.10

Affective word meanings such as good-bad, strong-weak, or active-passive are discriminated 61 by both category and meaning polarity according to response latency, amplitude, and scalp distribution at intervals of 80-265 and 565-975 msec.62 Positive words have amplitude increases peaking at 230 msec. compared to negative words, and relative to neutral words increase a subsequent peak amplitude as well as a slow wave component.63 Emotional words also show less amplitude decrease on repetition than neutral words.64

Some of these word category differentiation reports are consistent with both the specific recognition reports, and/or the discrimination of non-verbal cognition. Based on EEG/MEG responses, words are readily distinguished from non-words,65 66 67 pictures,68 and as to length.69 Even commas have a characteristic waveform similar to the speech phrase closure evoked pattern called closure positive shift.70 Color selection modulates the EEG.71 EEG discriminates the judgment of gender for both faces and hands.72

Positron Emission Tomography (PET) and Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) Word Category Discrimination

The more recent techniques of Positron Emission Tomography (PET) and Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) localize brain blood flow, with ability to distinguish perceptual categories. Some studies locate recognition of places73 74 and faces75 within certain brain areas, however, expertise can recruit the face recognition area,76 and other studies show these areas only responding maximally for specific stimuli.77 Word category activity is both distributed and overlapping77 78 in a somewhat lumpy manner.79 Though regions of word category difference are indicated below, brain comprehension is not solely dependent on these areas. Discrete category responsive emergence may have some resemblance to category segregation in the feature processing of artificial neural networks that self organize without programming.80

Meta-analysis of 14 studies locating activity for face, natural, and manufactured object recognition shows ventral temporal cortex difference. Face recognition activates more inferior ventral temporal portions including the fusiform gyrus of which manufactured objects activate more medial aspects than face or natural objects, yet natural objects distribute more widely in this region.81 Eighty eight percent of face studies converged for mid fusiform gyrus activity, while natural and manufactured objects converged no more than 50% for any discrete area. Manufactured object activity locates to the middle temporal cortex from natural objects, which locate more in the superior temporal cortex. Face and natural object activity is more bilateral, and in the left inferior frontal cortex, while particularly tools activate the premotor area. These studies also feature activity in the inferior occipital/posterior fusiform and the medial occipital structures of lingual gyrus, calcarine sulcus, and cuneus.

There is some agreement that verbs have greater activity in temporal, parietal, and premotor/prefrontal regions than nouns, while nouns have little82 or no83 greater activated areas than verbs, yet no noun/verb difference is also reported.84 German regular noun and verb fMRI responses compared to irregular words differ significantly in the right precentral gyrus, the left prefrontal cortex, bilateral posterior temporal lobes, and bilateral complexes including superior parietal lobules, supramarginal gyri, and angular gyri. 85 Regular words are left hemisphere laterized, while irregular words have somewhat greater distribution to the right hemisphere, and a greater activation over all cortical areas. Irregular verbs activate more total cortex than regular verbs, but lack motor strip, insular, and most occipital cortex activity present for regular verbs.86 Though both forms activate the inferior parietal lobule, irregular verbs activate more posterior and superior portions than regular verbs

Depending on control task correction, naming actions activates the left inferior parietal lobule lacking for locative prepositions, which activate the left supramarginal gyrus selectively from actions.87 Furthermore, naming abstract shape location compared to locating concrete items increases right supramarginal gyrus activity,87 which specifically also activates on long-term memory for spatial relations88 and in American Sign Language prepositions.89 The supramarginal gyrus is encompassed by the temporal-parietal-occipital junction active for location judgments, and is separate from temporal activity for judging color. 90 Action word generation activity is just anterior to the motion perception area, while color word generation activity is just anterior to the color perception area.91 Naming object color activates distinct brain regions from naming the object, with color knowledge retrieval activity being slightly removed from that of naming colors. 92 Irrespective of language and visual or auditory modality, the naming of body parts activates the left intraparietal sulcus, precentral sulcus, and medial frontal gyrus, while naming numbers activates the right post central sulcus as joined to the intraparietal sulcus.17

Concrete words are discriminated from abstract words in noun or verb forms,83 with more right hemisphere activity for abstract words than concrete words.93 94 95 Abstract/concrete contrasts feature both right and left temporal areas, while the reverse concrete/abstract comparison features frontal activity. 96 97 98 99 100 Besides distinction from abstract nouns, the concrete categories of animals contrasted to implements respond selectively in the posterior-lateral temporal, and frontal cortex areas across studies.93 98 Limbic activity, particularly the cingulate, distinguishes emotional words from both abstract and concrete words.94 .

Naming pictures of animals, tools, and famous people are discriminated101 by increased regional blood flow in the left inferior frontal gyrus for animals, premotor area for tools and left middle frontal gyrus for people.102 Faces activate the right lingual and bilateral fusiform gyri, while the left lateral anterior middle temporal gyrus response differs to famous faces, famous proper names, and common names.103 Particularly the left anterior temporal cortex responds to names, faces, and buildings when famous relative to non-famous stimuli.103 104 Viewing photographs of faces, buildings, and chairs evokes activity distributed across several cortical areas, which are each locally different in both the visual ventral temporal77 and occipital cortices.105 Photograph perception of these same categories has more hemispheric lateralization and activation than non-perceptual imagery,106 while short-term memory face imagery activity is stronger than that of long-term memory.107

More advanced fMRI techniques discriminate further word or object classes. In a high resolution fMRI limited brain cross section study, the activity differs for animals, furniture, fruit, or tools in discrete sites of the left lateral frontal and 3 separate medial temporal cortex loci respectively.108 The application of artificial intelligence to fMRI pattern distinguishes between 12 noun categories (fish, four legged animals, trees, flowers, fruits, vegetables, family members, occupations, tools, kitchen items, dwellings, and building parts.)109 As already mentioned, comparisons of the network of fMRI activity recognize responses for viewing faces, cats, houses, chairs, scissors, shoes, and bottles, with recognition accuracy ranging from 90-100%, which13 effectively is fMRI substantiation of specific thought reading.

Some cognitive functions are related to or partly dependent on language. Letters activate the left insula more than objects and exclusively the left inferior parietal cortex.110 Letters also activate an area in the left ventral visual cortex more than digits in most subjects.111 112 Brain activations of mathematical thinking are partly dependent on language.113 Subtraction activates bilaterally the anterior intraparietal sulcus and a phoneme area in the intraparietal sulcus mesial to the angular gyrus, selectively from simple motor tasks. 114 Number comparison activates right hemisphere intraparietal and prefrontal areas, while multiplication localizes more to the left hemisphere.115
ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM DISCRIMINATION OF OTHER COGNITIVE STATES


Other literature indicates EEG differentiation of completely non-verbal cognition. Greater left prefrontal activity predicts positive affect, while greater right prefrontal activity predicts negative disposition in psychological testing.116 However, the stability of hemispheric activation is important for such a trait characteristic, 117 and more transient mood states have exactly the opposite arousal symmetry.118 Decreased left prefrontal activity is also found in depression,119 120 and the anxiety situations of social phobics.121 Patented is more specific attitude, mood, and emotion differentiation, by plotting at least two and as many as five EEG frequencies, with reference to Air Force research.122 EEG patterns discriminate relative misanthropy and philanthropy in facial preferences, and favorable or negative responses to faces, 123 while waveform topography identifies sad face perception.124 Another EEG emotion indicator is the stimulus-preceding negativity (SPN.) Although slight SPNs can precede instruction cues, this wave is most pronounced while awaiting performance assessment and reward or aversive feedback. 125 126 127 128

A number of groups have developed procedures to detect deception based on the P300 (positive @ 300 millisec) event related potential (ERP) from EEG.129 130 131 132 133 134 A commercial system, Brain Fingerprinting,135 which includes additional frequency analysis, and a late negative ERP potential, cites 100% accuracy over five separate studies.136 137 138 139 140 Though most EEG deception detection concerns situation specific knowledge, a late positive potential approximate to the P300, is reported to vary as a function of real attitude rather than attitude report.141
BRAIN COMPUTER INTERFACES


EEG cortical potentials are detected for both actual movement,142 and movement readiness potentials (bereitschaftspotential.)143 144 EEG sufficiently differentiates just the imagination of movement to operate switches,145 move a cursor in one146 or two dimensions,147 and control prosthesis grasp.148 EEG detects such potentials to play Pac Man,149 and imagining the spinning of cubes, or arm raising in appropriate direction guides robots through simulated rooms, 150 151 152 both achieved without response prompting. Unprompted slow cortical potentials also can turn on computer programs.153 Signals from implanted brain electrodes in monkeys achieve even more complex grasping and reaching robot arm control without body arm movement.154 Some ability to recognize evoked responses to numbers155 and tones156 in real time by a commercial system called BrainScope has limited report.
REMOTE AND PROXIMATE BRAIN WAVE CAPTURE METHODS


Contact electrodes with conducive paste typically record EEG, while MEG detectors are in an array slightly removed from the head. Remote detection of brain rhythms by electrical impedance sensors is described.157 Though non-contact is the only remote descriptor for EEG, this same detector design is applied to monitoring electrocardiogram with wrist sensor location.158 Passive brain wave fields extend as far as 12 feet from man as detected by a cryogenic antenna.159 This device is entirely adaptable to clandestine applications, and pointed comments are made on the disappearance of physiological remote sensing literature since the 1970’s for animals and humans, while all other categories of remote sensing research greatly expanded.160

In 1976, the Malech Patent # 3951134 “Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves” was granted.161 Example of operation is at 100 and 210 MHz, which are frequencies penetrating obstruction. 162 “The individual components of the system for monitoring and controlling brain wave activity may be of conventional type commonly employed in radar”; and “The system permits medical diagnosis of patients, inaccessible to physicians, from remote stations” are quotes indicating remote capacity. License is to Dorne & Margolin Inc., but now protection is expired with public domain. The Malech patent utilizes interference of 210 and 100 MHz frequencies resulting in a 110 MHz return signal, which is demodulated to give EEG waveform.

The capability of remote EEG is predicted by electromagnetic scattering theory using ultrashort pulses, 163 which is different from the unpulsed Malech patent. Ultrashort pulses are currently defined in the range of 10-12 to 10-15 second. Considering that EEG word elicited potentials are comparatively long (hundreds of milliseconds), indicates that remote radar brain wave capture is adequate to word recognition, with ultrashort pulses allowing some 109 or more radar reflections in a millisecond (10-3 sec.)

The possibility of impressing an ‘experience set’ on an individual by ultrashort pulses is also contemplated.163 The above patent can alter brain waves as well as detect them. Microwave non-lethal weapon brain wave disruption164 and behavioral change including unconsciousness165 are known.166
THOUGHT READING COVERT DEVELOPMENT EVIDENCE


The research arm of agencies with missions to covertly acquire information would certainly develop to operational capability any thought reading potential, which was reported feasible some 30 years ago to the Department of Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA.) Reports that such development has progressed are multiple, and two are confirmed by details of the 1975 DARPA EEG specific word recognition report, which itself is evidence of development covert to open databases.2 An International Committee of the Red Cross Symposium synopsis states EEG computer mind reading development by Lawrence Pinneo in 1974 at Stanford.167 A letter by the Department of Defense Assistant General Counsel for Manpower, Health, and Public Affairs, Robert L. Gilliat affirmed brain wave reading by the Advanced Research Projects Agency in 1976,168 the same year as Malech remote EEG patent grant.

Other assertions affirm each other as to specifics. News articles quote Dr. John Norseen of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics that thought reading is possible and has had development. 169 170 He predicted by 2005 the deployment of thought reading detectors for profiling terrorists at airports.170 A further acknowledgement of developing a device to read terrorists’ minds at airports was made in a NASA presentation to Northwest Airlines security specialists.171 Statements in all articles indicate remoteness of brain wave detection, though somewhat proximate.

“Thought reading or synthetic telepathy” communications technology procurement is considered in a 1993 Jane’s7 Special Operations Forces (SOF) article: “One day, SOF commandos may be capable of communicating through thought processes.” 172 Descriptive terms are “mental weaponry and psychic warfare” Although contemplated in future context, implied is availability of a technology with limited mobility, since troop deployment anticipation must assume prior development. Victim complaints that mind reading is part of an assault upon them are very similar to such a capacity. Other complaints by these victims, such as technologic internal voice assault are upheld by considerable documentation that internal voice transmission is feasible, even at a distance and within structures,162 and a presumptive diagnosis of such complaints is largely consistent with microwave exposure173--a basis for both internal voice and EEG capture technologies.
DISCUSSION


There is considerable confirmation of an ability to recognize specific concepts by brain activity across subjects. Identifying visual images viewed by a subject solely by measures of mental activity is replicated across three groups by two methods, with best recognition rates of 100%. Three groups report success in visually viewed word identification by brain waves in two methods with best recognition rates of 75%. Isolated groups report EEG word recognition by auditory perception and prior to vocalization, with best results of 100% for auditory perception and 35% for vocalization. Although single reports examine lesser vocabularies, over all open studies of thought recognition, some 80 words have been examined. Word category distinctions would be expected from such individual differences. EEG, MEG, PET, or fMRI techniques discriminate some 42 word class or dimension distinctions, many of which would survive direct comparison just by reported results.

The finding that words can be classified by superposition of sine waves suggests an obvious interpretation, when considering word category blood flow activations of cell assemblies. The frequencies resulting from neuron firing rates in the distributed, yet somewhat discrete regions, when interference phase summed and subtracted by arrival from different locations results in word representation in the brain’s language.

Considerable capacity to specifically detect and differentiate mental states is evident from literature reports by EEG. The fact that EEG signals are detected on a voluntary unprompted basis for turning on computer programs,153 playing Pac Man,149 and robot guidance150 151 152 suggests the feasibility of a similar capacity for specific EEG concept recognition. Although most concept recognition work is related to stimulus prompted responses, the detection of numbers, apparently as a class, has limited report.155 The references to remote EEG provide plausibly exploitable mechanisms, for which covert development has some indication.

The plausibility of thought reading has not completely escaped scientific attention, as a French government panel expresses concern about the potential for thought reading and such a remote capacity.174 Complete rejection of reports of a remote mind reading capability is just as presumptuous, in the face of complaints, as has been the dismissal of internal voice capacity.162 News reports of covert thought reading development have confirmation in the Pinneo study, and independent assertions of proximate thought reading development “against terrorists” affirm each other. Special operations officials consider procurement of a similar remote capacity to that of which many victims complain. Though victims will regard their experience to affirm such a thought reading capability, professional prejudice regards such complaints as defining psychiatric condition. The certain fact is that these claims have no adequate investigation, which given available evidence is a rather egregious violation of personal dignity. Presumption of mind reading development must at least be considered as plausible, even regarding very remote methods.

It is known that government elements have done work in thought reading development. The logic that in the 30 years since the Pinneo work started, this capacity is operationally applied is too sound to dismiss victim corroboration and other evidence, without appropriate investigation. It would have to be admitted that funding for projects by the defense and security agencies is considerably greater than for open science, and that thought reading would be a priority area. Particularly disturbing is the existence of a remote EEG method in the public domain. Educated democracies should not be complacent at any prospect of mind reading, given the potential for privacy loss, civil rights violation, and political control.

Acknowledgements: Thanks are given to God for inspiration and guidance as well as Mr. John Allman, Secretary of Christians Against Mental Slavery for invaluable materials and support.

EEG concept recognition articles are printable thru Pubmed as designated.

All patents are printable from the U. S. Patent Office website.

Each is free

Pinneo LR and Hall DJ. “Feasibility Study for Design of a Biocybernetic Communication System” is available from Christians Against Mental Slavery at info@slavery.org.uk.

kblood
24-08-2007, 11:29 AM
www.cyberkineticsinc.com

Anyone who knows about who these people are? They probably know more about all this technology than most places I have found so far.

Cyberkinetics is about "fusing" man and machine. Hopefully to be able to make a new arm for someone, or making paralysed people able to use their body again. Could be alot more though, because how do they get to discover this technology?

Would be nice to get in touch with some of their "lab rats" :cool:

I hope dont have too many experiments that are left in their closets.

matrixcutter
24-08-2007, 01:33 PM
A.J. Bruno from One Heart Books
http://oneheartbooks.com
http://vyzygoth.com/audio/oneheart8-20-07.mp3

http://www.vyzygoth.com/index.html


http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/07jul/RICR-070719.jpg

July 19, 2007
A.j. Bruno - One Heart Books: Mind Control - Part 1 (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/07jul/RICR-070719-ajbruno.mp3)

We're joined by A.j. Bruno from OneHearthBooks.com to talk about Mind Control, his own Experience with EMF Weaponry and Good Books on the Subject. Topics Discussed: The Bookshop Name, The New World Order, The Elite Bloodlines, The Future, Noah's Ark a Symbol for the Remnants of Atlantis, 9/11 and & Trauma, Knowledge as Medicine, Understanding and Application of Knowledge, The Root of the Problem, Mind Control, The Power of Books, the Military & Technological Development, Dr. Nick Begich: "Controlling the Human Mind", Electro Magnetic Frequencies (EMF), Healing and the Field Testing of These Devices, Implementation and Testing on Population, A.j. Bruno's Experience with Electro Magnetic Frequency Weaponry, Directed Acoustic Sound Systems, Hearing Voices, Projected Audio and Visual Cortex Manipulation; Seeing Illusions, The Truman Show, Brain Scanners & Brain Reading Toys, HAARP, Solutions: Crystals, Recognizing the Spirit and much more.

August 5, 2007
A.j. Bruno - One Heart Books: Mind Control - Part 2
(http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/08aug/RICR-070805-ajbruno.mp3)

A.j. Bruno from OneHearthBooks.com Returns to the Program for Part Two of our Interview about Mind Control and his own Experience with EMF Weaponry. (Part 1) Topics Discussed: Patterns or Similarities Between the Times A.j. was "Hit", What was the Physical Effects? Headaches, Hearing Voices, Trouble Sleeping, Pulse Waves, Mk-Ultra, CIA, Herman P. Schwan, Donald Ewen Cameron, Who's Behind the Experimentation? The "Strange" Neighbor. We also talk about A.j.'s Parents, In what way was the Police Involved? The Experience at the Different Mental Hospitals, Forced Drugging, The connection Between SSRI's, School Shootings and the Creation of Manchurian Candidates, A.j.'s Strange Sighting: Illusion or Something Real? What is the Connection Between UFO's and Mind Control, Government or Aliens? And much much more. Don't miss our Subscriber Interview (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/08aug/RICR-070805-SUB.php) with A.j.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/nonsubscriber.php

chicken
24-08-2007, 01:45 PM
What a lovely guy Professor Kevin Warwick is

I must have spoken to him for at least an hour. I was very suprised to actually get him in person.

Here is a little bit of info about him

Kevin Warwick is Professor of Cybernetics at the University of Reading, England, where he carries out research in artificial intelligence, control, robotics and biomedical engineering. He is also Director of the University KTP Centre, which links the University with Small to Medium Enterprises and raises over £2Million each year in research income for the University.
He implanted himself once, this included his wife.

These are two things he is looking at this year:

Upgrading Humans - Technical Realities and New Morals
Professor Kevin Warwick from the School of Systems Engineering is set to discuss how the use of implant technology is rapidly diminishing the effects of certain neural illnesses, as part of the Bernard Price Memorial Lecture series in South Africa.

Professor to give memorial lecture
Kevin Warwick (professor of cybernetics) has been invited to give the Bernard Price Memorial Lecture this October in South Africa. This is the premier event of the SA Institute of Electrical Engineering and was set up originally in 1931 to mark the centenary of the discovery of electromagnetism by Michael Faraday.

Any way what he says is that if you are being attacked electromagnetically then you must be scanned to rule out any likelyhood of extra stuff that you shouldn't have in the body. So he says that an MRI scan will be ok for that. He thinks a CAT scan will be ok too. I asked him about the metals and the magnetics he thinks it will be ok - the objects won't move. I think that will need verifying with a specialist in that field - not saying I disbelieve him on that..

He did say get rid of it a.s.ap though if I had one. I know why - implants are dangerous things

I told him my bizarre story and the basics are - that my experiences are unique in that that no-one so far has mentioned the problems with the feet. I have my feet being attacked 24/7 - either the left which is most of the time or the right. I do of course have most of the other symptoms reported by others and I asked him if he had ever heard of 'gang stalking" and he hadn't.

I explained that as briefly as I could and said for some e-harassed people they had both and explained that I had both.

He wants to keep in touch with me as he wants to know what happens on my journey to sort this out. He does not think I am a crank and notes that he has quite a few people who have had the same situation phone him. They are saying similiar things.

But that is the thing isn't it there is an overlap and the people who do this make it appropriate to your situation so that when you do explain it - you sound cranky and there is connections to others but not a direct hit with regards to the story.

We discussed the need for and against the implant with regard to the effects that people get. He says that it is possible to get zapped not his words but not mine via external sources but that technology has yet to be made public and the likelyhood of it being government is very slim.

So are we saying the criminal element then?

We discussed was all this a bit far fetched what I was talking about and he said no - now this guy knows his stuff. Yes we are into the realms of science fiction - in as much he is looking to the future. Some is happening now and all is either in the research stage or very hush hush.

He explained how the signal sending worked - down onto the nervous system and up into the brain. He also explained what he was looking at for the future - experiment in thought communication involving brain to brain communication. He wants to get thre first.

I asked him about remote viewing - but he said he did not know too much about that - beyond him he said - but the edges of what he is looking at.

He wanted to know geographically locally how I lived and how other houses were situated against mine. I explained that and said there was an industrial unit opposite the house. There have been some strange comings and goings

He says that the government would want to investigate if that were the case. Difficult as you need to prove it. You would probably be taken to the funny farm straight away.

Yesterday I was pointed in the direction of this new government agency which was formed in April this year called SOCA. For serious "CRIME"

http://www.soca.gov.uk

Read about the Poor elderly UK couple called Verney. I think this was written by Armen Victorian. It was government MOD. It was even discussed in Parliament. They both died before it was sorted out.

The technique of being satalite attacked are possible but beyond his knowledge.

Anyway I would need to see him in person to explain it all - but he says its all possible but some is on the edge of the field of what he is working on. He says that he is very open minded. If Aliens arrived and were shown to be true he would believe that.

He said that if I had an implant someone could manipulate me from as little as ten miles away. I forgot to ask about whether travel had any effect. I can go anywhere and still have the same effects. Even in Cornwall where the radio reception is terrible. The only thing is that I used to live not far away from that major satellite station in Newquay.

Recently I went to Cornwall and it was the same. Me thinks it is satelite.

We also looked at the notion of telepathy and synthetic telepathy and he was saying that really was right on the edge of science fiction. I did say it was well documented in the news and various documents across the globe.

What had I intended to achieve by talking to him? Advice and if he knew of anybody in the Uk who was doing research in this area that he knew of.

No was the answer for the latter bit - I thanked him and felt supported by the fact he had time to chat, was warm and caring and wanted to know what happens. Not often do you get that. Mostly people have said - sorry not interested. Let me get on with my day. As they put the phone down they are probably thinking - now she's a crank!?

Anyway if I remember any more I will add to it.

Chicken

deca
24-08-2007, 02:23 PM
Professor Kevin Warwick,

I remember him being on the TV and I used to get a mag real robots http://www.realrobots.co.uk/ yep I built the robot

http://www.realrobots.co.uk/graphics/floating-cybotlogo.gif

At that time I thought that implants and BCI were good and benefit mankind.

Not now with all abuse and mkultra , and cloaked in secrecy.


Nice he had time to speak to you, Think scientist forget that there work can be abused as well as a benefit.

deca
24-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Professor Kevin Warwick

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/TECH/05/12/visionary.warwick/story.warwick.jpg

matrixcutter
24-08-2007, 02:45 PM
Dec 20, 2006 Alan Watt Blurb - "Brain Implant Familiarization and the Front-Men Who Plug-It" (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/Alan_Watt_Blurb_BrainImplant_Dec202006.mp3)
Frontman Professor Kevin Warwick (http://www.kevinwarwick.com/) is discussed.

Transcript (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_Blurb_Brain_Implant_Familarization_Dec20 _06.html)

deca
24-08-2007, 03:22 PM
I just found my emf detector,it was in one of my daughters toy boxes,thought
I lost it, so I bought another of ebay a different make

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5926/emfhj5.jpg

This meter never picked up anything unuasally but it has a slower response time?


here is my orignal detector
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8966/elfdetlo0.jpg

when I tested them a few minutes ago this one was (beige)flashing in red and the other was not ?


As I typed I left both meters on my beige one stoped flashing then i heard a hiss on my pc speakers and then my grey one light up but the beige one did not? they were side by side and both away from anything electrical?

kblood
25-08-2007, 12:06 AM
Thanks Chicken :) That was very enlightening.
Professor Kevin Warwick seems like a good friendly person. Does he know if they have succeded in making AI works a bit like the human brain? I think it is called a positronic something. It should be able to mimic the neurons in our brain so well, that it could become self-educating and learning. Maybe even selv-aware. I have come to believe that an AI "brain" like this might in fact become possessable by ghosts. Maybe even on purpose. Maybe someone can astral travel or do an out of body something and get into the robots body.

To be able to make these implants, I do think they might have even more advanced research going on. I have a friend or two who are familiar with implants of these kinds. I only have contact with on of them these days though. I will try to reach him and ask about it, before he goes "offline" for a while, since he is moving. Will take some time untill he gets Internet again.

deca
25-08-2007, 04:25 AM
chicken

have you ever watched a war film were the good guys throw a stone to the side of the natzi guard to distract him as he investigates they sneak past him.

thats what i think the perps are using your feet.

The perps on me can make audio come from anywhere I perceive it or anywhere they what me to perceive it to be.

deca
25-08-2007, 03:23 PM
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5667/eatthishc8.jpg

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/British_Army_deploys_new_weapon_based_0823.html


coming to a perp base soon!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

deca
25-08-2007, 06:25 PM
My Theory so far

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5676/mytheorylv6.jpg

matrixcutter
25-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Dec 20, 2006 Alan Watt Blurb - "Brain Implant Familiarization and the Front-Men Who Plug-It" (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/Alan_Watt_Blurb_BrainImplant_Dec202006.mp3)
Frontman Professor Kevin Warwick (http://www.kevinwarwick.com/) is discussed.

Transcript (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_Blurb_Brain_Implant_Familarization_Dec20 _06.html)
Worth pointing out again, for anybody interested.

deca
25-08-2007, 09:36 PM
cheers matrixcutter for the link
I will listen to it soon:)

deca
27-08-2007, 02:31 AM
Snap, Crackle, and Feel Good?
Magnetic fields that map the brain may also treat its disorders

Snap!

Hmm, did my right arm twitch a bit that time?

Another small twist of the knob.

Snap!

No doubt about it this time. My right arm jerks.

Snap!

I don't feel any pain or notice anything unusual other than the sound, but my arm jumps again, seemingly of its own accord.
Welcome to transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS)

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000923/bob10.asp

deca
28-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Russians have psychotronic weapon to zombie people

Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making special devices that turn humans into zombies.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/95965-0/

deca
29-08-2007, 04:58 PM
more ways to beat microwave hearing

Gnaural can play sound directly through your computer sound system, or create a sound file that you can burn to CD or put on your iPod/MP3 player. Either way, you will need earphones to actually experience binaural beats, as the principle requires isolating the stimulus to each ear.

works on windows,linux,mac

http://gnaural.sourceforge.net/

gnaural 2 download https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=713738

just run it load a preset/make your own

turn main volume down a bit

play music at the same time through your media player
you can mess with the sliders/settings when perps try to beat it!!!!
in real time Very Happy

or you can mix up your own tracks to in a audio program gnaura+music for mp3 or cd

drown out the perps and there depressing white noise
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


SBaGen -- Binaural Beat Brain Wave Experimenter's Lab(free)

http://uazu.net/sbagen/


BrainWave Generator
http://www.bwgen.com/

neuro programmer 2
30-Day Free Trial
http://www.shareup.com/Neuro-Programmer_Pro-download-31566.html


This program looks good and easy

lots of sessions built in and can by changed to suit you with a few mouse clicks Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

hmmm save function in neuro programmer 2 disabled in trail version

Never mind download this neat little program

All2WAV Recorder
http://www.naturpic.com/all2wav/

set it to "record sound from another application(game,media player)
turn the volume up in this program
job done

Audacity is free, open source software for recording and editing sounds. It is available for Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, GNU/Linux, and other operating systems
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/


download lame if you want to covert wav to mp3

link on site

Sound Masker generates various types of noise for purposes such as suppressing unwanted noise from any source ( neighbors, dog barking, passing traffic etc )

http://www.relaxingsoftware.com/soundmaskerhome.htm

nice and easy program

deca
29-08-2007, 04:59 PM
this has positive suggestions.
its last for 20mins and 18megs in size

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KPFF2JWN




This one the same but no suggestions

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9SZUUBDI


You can easily use a audio editor an add your own suggestions
or download np2 and make your own

These do seam to work!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D

deca
30-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Conference Call Testimonials of Org. Stalking and Electromagnetic Harassment
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678754031914464642

deca
30-08-2007, 05:37 PM
Stories of Organized Stalking and Electro...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6143262532025920585**NOTE: The opening still frame is ... all » about 1 minute and was placed there inexplicably during the rendering process

deca
01-09-2007, 05:29 AM
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/883/perpsjp6.jpg

chicken
01-09-2007, 10:20 AM
Deca - thanks for putting the stalking stuff on

Cheers

Chicken

redhead
05-09-2007, 03:21 PM
Intresting article from educate yourself

I get a fair amount of mail from people who have been targeted for electronic harassment, which usually includes electronic torture as well. Technically, it's called psychotronics. A targeted individual almost always has multiple implants which allows this heinous technology to work more effectively. The energy is being sent by cell phone microwave towers on the ground and from satellites in the sky. The victim hears voices in his head talking to him, questioning him, haranguing him, swearing at him, or telling him how worthless he is. Sometimes the dialog is logical, but more often it's gibberish, the ranting of crazy people who make no sense at all. Victims can be kept awake at night or have their dreams invaded with nightmares or satanic killing rituals. In addition to the mind invasion, the perpetrators can apply any sort of physical stimuli to the nervous system by changing the frequency a few tenths of a hertz. The sensation experienced by the victim could be pleasurable or sexually stimulating in nature, but it's usually painful, irritating, itchy, or burning. Some woman report being 'raped' psychotronically. Of course, no one believes them when they try to explain it to friends, family or the police.

There are different approaches to mitigating this assault. One idea is to shield yourself physically from the microwave energy so the signal can't reach you. It's also possible to create an "active" electronic shield which will swamp out the signal being sent. Another idea is to shield yourself psychically, as explained in this article. A third idea is to punch back through the etheric plane and send the energy back to the perpetrators. The perps really hate this one. This is where orgone tools can prove handy, but it's also possible to do this with the mind alone. A fourth idea is to ASK FOR HELP from the spirit world. This will often work, to some degree at least, while all other methods may fail.

I'll be posting progress reports from a gal named Deborah who's been going through the psychotronic gauntlet for a number of years, but has now found specific techniques-with the help of Lilly Ochescu, Fred Gunn and others-that have yielded results and have brought improvement. ..Ken Adachi]

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sevenlayershielding19jul07.shtml
July 19, 2007

Ken,

This was authored by an orgonite warrior friend of mine here in Colorado. He does not want to be known. If you should ever post this, please do not
include his name. I have mentioned it to you for the purpose of future discussion. This shielding has worked for me. There is more info to come. Thanks.


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Seven Layer Shielding

Furthermost layer, the 7th layer out from self, put a protective bubble up now. Make a mirror finish on the outside, with swirling translucent colors that are random time sequencing & random frequency shifting. All minor or medium ill-intentions and psychic attacks will just be repelled. Talented dark artists will be very frustrated & will drain themselves in efforts to pierce this shield.

The 6th layer shield is woven with a cord of triple helix (like the DNA). When the weave is complete, the loose ends connect to each other. Any attacks that get through the mirror finished 7th layer are met with a laser-like triple helix that returns to the sender immediately, ignoring any attempt to conceal the source of the attack. The return energy will scramble the frequencies of the solar plexus chakras of the dark artists who attacked and also go to the handlers, the master, the supervisors, of whoever ordered or condoned that attack. The return attack will exist for 49 hours. The return will contain check valves & diodes that will not allow any returns to be piggybacked back to that shield or to me. After 49 hours the return will stop. The hole that had been wormed through in the mirror finish has already healed and that point is now stronger than before.

The 5th shield from center & the 3rd from the outermost, is woven from a cord of quadruple helix. All helixes within this cord are connected & communicating with each other. After the weave is complete, the ends of the helix bind together for unbroken protection. If any invading, nonloving, ill-intention attack, observation or peeking touches that shield, it is immediately evaporated. That energy is returned to nothingness. None of the evaporation of that attack will affect anything else. It will just be inert and go back to nothingness.

The middle shield, 4th from the inside and & 4th from the outside, weave this shield with a quintuple helix cord, exactly as you wove & connected the previous woven shields. All individual helixes in the cord are connected to each other. This shield will coordinae the communication and cooperation of all shields.

The next shield bubble, 3rd from the inside & 5th from the outside, weave with a six helix cord. No ill-intent can touch this shield. This shield is for our benefit. This is even more of a radio receiver to receive energy & information from the loving Earth, from soul/higher self, and from Father/Mother/Creator.

The next shield going in, the 2nd from the inside and & 6th from the outside, weave this shield with a 7 helix cord, woven & connected as the other shields. This shield will insure absolute integrity with all information received. Any disruptions, or any questioning on your information would be the internal workings of ego, past experience or old programming. Allow this shield to help with self recognition, and cleansing, of those aspects of self. This shield will add further clarity to information you receive from asking, and clarity with any un-asked-for intuitive information.

The innermost shield, 7th from the outside, weave that with an 11 helix. All purity, all clarity, all sincerity, all compassion.

Within that middle shield, you may also fill with an absolute, clear light; absolute clarity. All hooks are seen and removed, etheric, mental, emotional and physical; all clarity, all complete clarity in these four innermost shields.

edelweiss pirate
05-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Radiohead song:


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8149312046015733339&q=radiohead+you+do+it+to+yourself&total=18&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

chicken
05-09-2007, 10:18 PM
You need to read this stuff - interesting and scary. I decided to find the UK version of mind control.

Connections with Mental Health Fascism and Nazi mind control

http://www.whale.to/b/patton.html

By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the “breaking point” of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.
Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to “improving” the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded, partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high ranking officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy. Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler, was in charge of a scientific project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and adoption of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among them.[2] The purpose of the program was to create a super-race (Aryans) who would have total allegiance to the cause of the Third Reich(New World Order).

Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and behavior modification was conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he coldly analyzed the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and “twinning” upon his victims. Beside the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the concentration camp, some of the children were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock. Sadly, many of them did not survive the brutality.

http://covertmatrix.50webs.com/tavistock.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_tavistock.htm

http://www.barefootsworld.net/tavistok.html

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2003/2-mental.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2003/1-mental.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/mind-control.htm

chicken
05-09-2007, 10:21 PM
Main points discovered. You will need to read the lot to get it

Duality:Resolving the philosophical question of whether we are inherently good or inherently evil is tantamount in shaping our perception of reality;

I was told by a telephone call from an occult specialist - in the UK that the stuff that was going to happen to me was related to Satanism and the occult. What was said was not nice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult - The word occult comes from the Latin occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In the medical sense it is used commonly to refer to a structure or process that is hidden, e.g. an "occult bleed."[2]

The word has negative connotations for many people, and while certain practices considered by some to be "occult" are also found within mainstream religions, in this context the term "occult" is rarely used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Occult_Roots_of_Nazism

Ok - back to everyday explanations - I see that this relates to the e-harassment as it is hidden knowledge - a process which is hidden and cannot be proven. It is not good - evil as people have pointed this out to me that it is very negative. Also gang stalking is considered to be very negative and evil. You try to explain it to someone and it sounds crap - hidden evil I think Mark Rich called it and did mention the occult in his online book about it

Occultism - The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon helped lay the foundation for occultism

The Anglo Alliance
By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the “breaking point” of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Institute. There are many KWI spread about now offering different learning and research institutions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Planck_Institute_for_Medical_Research. This was so renamed from Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in 1946 as was in the British Zone

http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/static/images/1069.html

http://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/KWG/ - History about the Institute - In german I am afraid

http://www.springer.com/west/home/humanities/history?SGWID=4-40402-22-173752977-0 - A book about the History - Called "Crossing Boundaries"

chicken
05-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Kurt Lewin is universally recognized as the founder of modern social psychology. He pioneered the use of theory, using experimentation to test hypothesis. He placed an everlasting significance on an entire discipline--group dynamics and action research.
Lewin was born in the village of Moglino in the Prussian province of Posen in 1890. He completed his requirements for a Ph.D. in 1914, at the outset of WWI. Two years later, in 1916, his degree from the University of Berlin was conferred. Lewin immigrated to the United States in 1933, where he became a citizen in 1940.
While at the University of Berlin, Lewin "found many of the department's courses in the grand tradition of Wundtian psychology irrelevant and dull" (Hothersall, 1995, p.239). His thinking was changing to emphasize social psychological problems. He is well known for his term "life space" and work on group dynamics, as well as t-groups. Lewin's commitment to applying psychology to the problems of society led to the development of the M.I.T. Research Center for Group Dynamics. "He wanted to reach beyond the mere description of group life and to investigate the conditions and forces which bring about change or resist it" (Marrow, 1969, p.178). Lewin believed in the field approach. For change to take place, the total situation has to be taken into account. If isolated facts are used, a misrepresented picture could develop.
Lewin authored over 80 articles and eight books on a wide range of issues in psychology. Although no prestigious university offered him an appointment, and the American Psychological Association never selected him for any assignment or appointed him to any committee of any significance, his everlasting presence has left him in the ranks of Sigmund Freud and B.F. Skinner.


Time Line of Lewin's Life

1890 Born in Moglino, Prussian province of Posen
1914 Enters Army for four years during WWI
1916 Completed Ph.D., University of Berlin
1917 Married Maria Landsberg
1919 Daughter, Agnes, born
1921 Privatdozent, University of Berlin
1922 Son, Fritz, born
1924 Student Bluma Zeigarnik completes study on recall of uncompleted tasks
1927 Promoted to Ausserordentlicher Professor
1929 Remarried Gertrud Weiss
1931 Daughter, Miriam, born
1932 Visiting Professor, Stanford University
1933 Son, Daniel, born
1933 Fled Germany to United States
1933 Faculty, Cornell University
1935 Published "A Dynamic Theory of Personality"
1935 Professor, University of Iowa
1936 Published "Principles of Topological Psychology"
1940 Becomes American citizen
1942 President of the Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues
1944 Organized Research Center For Group Dynamics,M.I.T.
1944 Established Commission on Community Interrelations (C.C.I.)
1944 Mother killed in Nazi Extermination camp
1946 Published Psychological Problems in Jewish Education
1946 Published "Frontiers in Group Dynamics"
1947 Created National Laboratories Training
1947 Died

Places to look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Lewin
http://www.nwlink.com/~donclark/hrd/history/lewin.html
http://wilderdom.com/theory/FieldTheory.html

Chicken

chicken
05-09-2007, 10:25 PM
History of Tavistock Institute

http://www.tavinstitute.org/

Sister site to Tavistock Institute - "Group Relations"

http://www.grouprelations.com/index.php?mode=01350f245d635b305770527a&PHPSESSID=e2292363273455cfb21995effe686277

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, a novel, interdisciplinary, action orientated research organisation, was founded in London in 1946 with the aid of a grant from the Rockefeller Foundation. It was set up for the specific purpose of actively relating the psychological and social sciences to the needs and concerns of society. In sustaining this endeavour for more than fifty years, it has won international recognition.

The circumstances of World War Two brought together an unusually talented group of psychiatrists, clinical and social psychologists and anthropologists in the setting of the British Army, where they developed a number of radical innovations in social psychiatry and applied social science. They became known as the Tavistock Group because the core members had been at the pre-war Tavistock Clinic. Though only some of them continued their involvement with the post-war Tavistock organisation, those who did built on the war-time achievements to introduce a number of far-reaching developments in several fields. This style of research related theory and practice in a new way.

The objectives of the Institute were to study human relations in conditions of wellbeing, conflict or breakdown, in the family, the community, the work group and the larger organisation, and to promote the health and effectiveness of individuals and organisations.

Since that time, the Tavistock Institute has evolved into an organisation that does research and consultancy, evaluation and professional development work in support of change and learning. We try to contribute to the development of the social sciences by publishing our work. We also own and edit Human Relations, an international social science journal, and edit the journal Evaluation.

The Institute was located in the Tavistock Centre in Belsize Park, which we shared with the Tavistock Clinic until the summer of 1994, when we moved to our current office in central London.

More information about us, our publications, our work and our current interests can be found on this website. A more detailed account of our history can be found in The Social Engagement of Social Science - A Tavistock Anthology published by the University of Pennsylvania Press in three volumes between 1990 and 1997, (ISBN 081228912-6, 081228193-4 and 081228194-2). A history of the Tavistock Clinic can be found on the website of the Tavistock & Portman NHS Trust.

chicken
05-09-2007, 10:32 PM
The Other Ten Tavistock Institutions - in America
The London Office is the headquarters - Wish I knew of a way to check the validity of the information. Any ideas

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_committee300_10.htm

Flow Laboratories

Gets contracts from the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Merle Thomas Corporation

Gets contracts from the U.S. Navy, analyzes data from satellites.

Walden Research

Does work in the field of pollution control.

Planning Research Corporation, Arthur D. Little,
G.E. TEMPO, Operations Research

Part of approximately 350 firms who conduct research, conduct surveys, and then make "recommendations" to government. They are part of what President Eisenhower called "a possible danger to public policy that could itself become captive of a scientific-technological elite."

ARCO (Atlantic Richfield Company)

This company contiually keeps popping up during investigations and research on mind control. Several men on ARCO's board of directors were trained by Tavistock - including Jack Conway, Philip Hawley, and Dr. Joel Fort.

Brookings Institution

Dedicates its work to what it calls a "national agenda." Wrote President Hoover's program, President Roosevelt's "New Deal", the Kennedy Administration's "New Frontiers" program (deviation from it may have cost John F. Kennedy his life), and President Johnson's "Great Society." Brookings has been telling the United States Government how to conduct its affairs for the past 70 years and is still doing so.

Esalen Institute

Located in Big Sur, California, Esalen Institute is the Tavistock of America. They give workshops on hypnosis, biofeedback, witchcraft (for example, their "Rituals of Transformation" class). Instructors include: witch Margo Adler, Cranio-sacral D.O. Jim Asher, psychologist Adam Burke (who specializes in trance training), Patti Lawrence (who does cranial work), Caroline Muir (a tantric sex yoga expert), Robert Swanson (a Dolphin expert), Charles Tart (an expert in altered states of consciousness), Karen Turner (a witch psychologist), & Anna Wise (who is skilled in using EEGs to measure and train brain waves). These are only a few of the many occult instructors that the Esalen Institute has on staff.

Hudson Institute

This institution has done more to shape the way Americans react to political and social events, think, vote and generally conduct themselves than perhaps any, except the BIG FIVE. Hudson specializes in defense policy research and relations with the USSR. Most of its military work is classified as SECRET. (One idea during the Vietnam War was to build a moat around Saigon.) Hudson may be properly classified as one of the Committee of 300's "BRAINWASHING" establishments. One of its largest clients is the U.S. Department of Defense which includes matters of civil defense, national security, military policy and arms control.

National Training Laboratories

One of the key institutions established for this purpose in the United States was the National Training Laboratories (NTL). Founded in 1947 by members of the Tavistock network in the United States and located originally on an estate in Bethel, Maine, NTL had as its explicit purpose the brainwashing of leaders of the government, educational institutions, and corporate bureaucracies in the Tavistock method, and then using these "leaders" to either themselves run Tavistock group sessions in their organizations or to hire other similarly trained group leaders to do the job. The "nuts and bolts" of the NTL operation revolves around the particular form of Tavistock degenerate psychology known as "group dynamics," developed by German Tavistock operative Kurt Lewin, who emigrated to the United States in the 1930s and whose students founded NTL.

In a Lewinite brainwashing group, a number of individuals from varying backgrounds and personalities are manipulated by a "group leader", to form a "consensus" of opinion, achieving a new "group identity." The key to the process is the creation of a controlled environment, in which stress is introduced (somtimes called dissonance) to crack an individual's belief structure. Using the peer pressure of other group members, the individual is "cracked," and a new personality emerges with new values. The degrading experience causes the person to deny that any change has taken place. In that way, an individual is brainwashed without the victim knowing what has taken place.

This method is the same, with some minor modification, used in all so-called "sensitivity groups" or "T-groups," or in the more extreme rock-drug-sex count-erculture form, "touchy-feely groups," such as the kind popularized from the 1960s onward by the Esalen Institute, which was set up with the help of NTL.

From the mid-1950s onward, NTL put the majority of the nation's corporate leaderships through such branwashing programs, while running similar programs for the State Department, the Navy, the Department of Education, and other sections of the federal bureaucracy. There is no firm estimate of the number of Americans who have been put through this process in last 40 years at either NTL, or as it is now known the NTL Institute for Applied Behavioral Sciences, which is based in Rosslyn, Virginia, or its West Coast base of operations, the Western Training Laboratories in Group Development, or in various satellite institions. The most reliable estimate is in the several millions.

One of the goups that went through the NTL mill in the 1950s was the leadership of the National Education Association, the largest organization of teachers in the United States. Thus, the NEA's outlook has been "shaped" by Tavistock, through the NTL. In 1964, the NTL Institute became a direct part of the NEA, with the NTL setting up "group sessions" for all its affiliates. With funding from the Departnent of Education, the NTL Institute drafted the programs for the training of the nation's primary and secondary school teachers, and has a hand as well in developing the content of educational "reforms," including OBE.

Also known as the "International Institute for Applied Behavioral Sciences", this institute is a brainwashing center in artificial stress training whereby participants suddenly find themselves immersed in defending themselves against vicious accusations. NTL takes in the National Education Association, the largest teacher group in the United States. While officially decrying "racism", it is interesting to note that NTL, working with NEA, produced a paper proposing education vouchers which would separate the hard-to-teach children from the brighter ones, and funding would be allocated according to the number of difficult children who would be separated from those who progressed at a normal rate. The proposal was not taken up.

University of Pennsylvania
Wharton School of Finance & Commerce

One of the prominent "brain trusts" of Tavistock, the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Finance and Commerce (founded by Eric Trist) has become one of the most important Tavistock brainwashing institutions, insofar as "Behavioral Research" is concerned. Wharton attracts clients such as the U.S. Department of Labor, which teaches how to produce *cooked* statistics at the "Wharton Econometric Forecasting Associates Incorporated". This method was very much in demand as we came to the close of 1991 with *millions more* out of work than was reflected in USDL statistics.

Wharton's "Econometric Modeling" (intentionally
vague pseudo-intellectual title for their method of
creating false information) is used by every major
Committee of 300 company in the US and Western
Europe - as well as by the International Monetary
Fund, the United Nations, and the World Bank!


Institute for Social Research

Among its clients are The Ford Foundation, U.S.Department of Defense, U.S.Postal Service and the U.S. Department of Justice. Among its studies are "The Human Meaning Of Social Change", "Youth in Transition" and "How Americans View Their Mental Health".

Institute For The Future

This is not a typical Tavistock institution, in that it is funded by the Ford Foundation, yet it draws its long-range forecasting from the mother of all think tanks. Institute for the Future projects what it believes to be changes that will be taking place in time frames of fifty years. So called "DELPHI PANELS" decide what is normal and what is not, and prepare position papers to "steer" government in the right direction to head off such groups as "people creating civil disorder." (This could be patriotic groups demanding abolition of graduated taxes, or demanding that their right to bear arms is not infringed.) This institute recommends action such as liberalizing abortion laws, drug usage and that cars entering an urban area pay tolls, teaching birth control in public schools, requiring registration of firearms, making use of drugs a non-criminal offense, legalizing homosexuality, paying students for scholastic achievements, making zoning controls a preserve of the state, offering bonuses for family planning and last, but most frightening, a Pol Pot Cambodia-style proposal that new communities be established in rural areas, (concentration camp compounds). As can be observed, many of their goals have already been more than fully realized.

Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

One of the "Big Three", IPS has shaped and reshaped United States policies, foreign and domestic, since it was founded by James P. Warburg and the Rothschild entities in the United States. Its networks in America include the League for Industrial Democracy. Lead players in the League for Industrial Democracy have included Jeane Kirkpatrick, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Irwin Suall of the ADL, Eugene Rostow, Arms control negotiator, Lane Kirkland, Labor Leader, and Albert Shanker. IPS was incorporated in 1963 by Marcus Raskin and Richard Barnett, both highly trained Tavistock Institute graduates. The objectives of IPS came from an agenda laid down for it by the Tavistock Institute, one of the most notable being to create the "New Left" as a grass roots movement in the U.S. Its been said that Barnett and Raskin controlled such diverse elements as the Black Panthers, Daniel Ellsberg, National Security Council staff member Halprin, The Weathermen Underground, the Venceramos and the campaign staff of candidate George McGovern. No scheme was too big for IPS and its controllers to take on and manage.

Through its many powerful lobbing groups on Capitol Hill, IPS relentlessly used its "Big Stick" to beat Congress. IPS has a network of lobbyists, all supposedly operating independently but in actual fact acting cohesively, so that Congressmen are pummeled from all sides by seemingly different and varied lobbyists, In this way, IPS was, and is still, able to successfully sway individual Representatives and Senators to vote for "the trend, the way things are going." By using key pointmen on Capitol Hill, IPS was able to break into the very infrastructure of our legislative system and the way it works.

IPS became, and remains to this day, one of the most prestigious "think tanks" controlling foreign policy decisions, which we, the people, foolishly believe are those of our law makers.

By sponsoring militant activism at home and with links to revolutionaries abroad, by engineering such victories as "The Pentagon Papers," besieging the corporate structure, bridging the credibility gap between underground movements and acceptable political activism, by penetrating religious organizations and using them to sow discord in America, such as radical racial policies under the guise of religion, using establishment media to spread IPS ideas, and then supporting them, IPS has lived up to the role which it was founded to play.

Stanford Research Institute (SRI)

Jesse Hobson, the first president of Stanford Research Institute, in a 1952 speech made it clear what lines the institute was to follow. Stanford can be described as one of the "jewels" in Tavistock's Crown in its rule over the United States. Founded in 1946 immediately after the close of WWII, it was presided over by Charles A. Anderson, with emphasis on mind control research and "future sciences." Included under the Stanford umbrella was Charles F. Kettering Foundation which developed the "Changing Images of Man" upon which the Aquarian Conspiracy rests.

Some of Stanford's major clients and contracts were at first centered around the defense establishment but, as Stanford grew, so, did the diversity of its services: Applications of Behavioral Sciences to Research Management Office of Science and Technology.

SRI Business Intelligence Program

US Department of Defense, Directorate of Defense Research and Engineering

US Department of Defense, Office of Aerospace Research

Among corporations seeking Stanford's services were Wells Fargo Bank, Bechtel Corporation, Hewlett Packard, Bank of America, McDonnell Douglas Corporation, Blyth, Eastman Dillon and TRW Company. One of Stanford's more secret projects was extensive work on chemical and bacteriological warfare (CAB) weapons.

Stanford Research is plugged into at least 200 smaller "think tanks" doing research into every facet of life in America. This is ARPA networking and represents the emergence of probably the most far reaching effort to control the environment of every individual in the country. At present Stanford's computers are linked with 2500 "sister" research consoles which include the CIA, Bell Telephone Laboratories, U.S. Army Intelligence, The Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), Rand, MIT, Harvard and UCLA. Stanford plays a key role in that it is the "library", cataloging all ARPA documentation.

"Other agencies" ... (one can use one's imagination here) are allowed to search through SRI's "library" for key words, phrases; look through sources and update their own master files with those of Stanford Research Center. The Pentagon uses SRI's master files extensively and there is little doubt that other U.S. Government agencies do the same. Pentagon "command and control" problems are worked out by Stanford.

While ostensibly these apply only to weapons and soldiers, there is absolutely no guarantee that the same research could not , and will not be turned to civilian applications. Stanford is known to be willing to do anything for anyone.

Massachusetts Institute Of Technology (MIT)
Alfred P. Sloan School Of Management

This major institute is not generally recognized as being a part of Tavistock U.S.A. Most people look upon it as being a purely American institution, but that is far from the truth! MIT-Alfred Sloan can be roughly divided into the following groups:

Contemporary Technology
Industrial Relations
Lewin Group Psychology
NASA-ERC Computer Research Labatories
Office of Naval Research Group, Psychology
Systems Dynamics



Some of MIT's clients are:

American Management Association
Committee for Economic Development
GTE
Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA)
NASA
National Academy of Sciences
National Council of Churches
Sylvania
TRW
US Army
US Department of State
US Navy
US Treasury
Volkswagen Company

RAND Research And Development Corporation

Without a doubt, RAND is THE think tank most beholden to Tavistock Institute and certainly the RIIA's most prestigious vehicle for control of United States policies at every level. Specific RAND policies that became operative include our ICBM program, prime analyses for U.S. foreign policy making, instigator of space programs, U.S. nuclear policies, corporate analyses, hundreds of projects for the military, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in relation to the use of mind altering drugs like peyote, LSD (the covert MK-ULTRA operation which lasted for 20 years).



Some of RAND's clients include:

American Telephone and Telegraph (AT&T)
Chase Manhattan Bank
International Business Machines (IBM)
National Science Foundation
Republican Party
TRW
US Air Force
US Department of Health
US Department of Energy


There are literally *thousands* of highly important companies, government institutions and organizations that make use of RANDS's services. To list them all would be impossible. Among RAND's specialities is a "study group" that predicts the timing and the direction of a thermonuclear war, plus working out the many scenarios based upon its findings. RAND was once accused of being commissioned by the USSR to work out terms of surrender of the United States Government, an accusation that went all the way to the United States Senate, where it was taken up by Senator Symington and subsquently fell victim to scorn poured out by the establishment press. "Brainwashing" remains the primary function of RAND.

toppercat
11-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Hello Chicken and Deca and Everyone,
I notice you've got onto Professor Kevin Warwick....Is there any more open minded Electronics professors in the UK,who can help?
You asked Chicken whether I'm a T.I(Targeted Individual),and no I'm not,but people I knew were,and 2 of them took there life through the torture of electronic harrasment,by drowning in the local river!
I know the person responsible,and he is a peadophile,and is part of a peadophile ring in the town.If you read my previous replys in this section you would know this.....and that my theory is that most electronic harrasment is caused by peadophiles...because they are organised in groups,are driven by evil,and are electronically savvy enough,and are by nature been a hunted minority cunning enough!
By the way I don't like the word T.I, I prefer "human beings".
.....Next time you contact Professor Kevin Warwick,could you please tell him to telephone Roger Tolces who seems to know his stuff,he can be contacted at Los Angeles time(323 462 1351)during office hours they are 8 hours behind us..so ring after 7 in the evening our time.
regards,
Toppercat,
Ireland.

deca
12-09-2007, 02:03 AM
Monarch II Making the Case (pt three)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bd68wJtTtU

I have recievied a email from marsboy683 he is a TI like myself

I`ve got a dvd for sale on amazon and createspace.com and books for sale on lulu.com
I'm not trying to make $. I gave out 120 free DVD's of the film to TI's but the police have my laptop and files now.
The torture is very intense and a film helps when books don't. Thank you for spreading the word.

If anybody would like to know more and help please think about buying marsboy683 films and books he is one of the best on the subject.

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chicken
12-09-2007, 12:23 PM
Toppercat - hello:)

I have not posted here for a while. Been a bit busy posting elsewhere. Yes Prof Warwick seemed a nice chap and we had lots to talk about. He is about to start mind to mind communication. In my research this has been talked about a lot previously and he wants to be the first to do it? But as with anything which seems controversial he might not have got there first. I think it probably already exists. Still declassified stuff - sitting in someones filing cabinet, awaiting the thirty years or so to pass before it is released to the unsuspecting public through a science journal or the media that this is new science etc etc......

We are catching up with ourselves - things are still hidden and will not be for much longer in my opinion. I believe the next generation and beyond will not take any bull from the media and the governments. This is why mind control is being worked on at such a fast rate. Technology has a lot to do with it.

Its everywhere in the news - Russia, America, UK etc and we are talking mainstream media - not sites like this that the general public think of as on the edge and full of conspiracy theories.

Unfortunately most of what we read here is true - not sure about the reptiles myself? :rolleyes:

I know who my perps are (perpetrators) the local mental health team and the doctors - the people are involved. OKaaay!!! - you might think, well it is designed to sound far-fetched it comes with the territory. I am gang stalked as well - so we are being suicided in fact. Both life, job, career, relationships etc etc. I told a mental health person about my coach experience and was told to change my story. I doubt that this is not a new phenomena in the UK - but it happens where there are strong mental health teams. Large mental health institutions too

Its a massive cover up - conspiracy? no - not that as such. Why do I think its the health teams because its about filling spaces, discrediting you and all the other reasons besides. You know what you believe because you live it - you experience it. No hallucinating either.

You relay what has happened - and you can never do it justice because you need the body language bit and tone of voice in there as well. So the other person gets it first hand and in real time if you understand that? But it sounds so far fetched. I am lucky to have a few non TI's believe me. All from all walks of life too.

A fellow - TI - yes we are human beings. But we are also targeted too. It separates us just temporarily. Anyway - individual counts are going on in the various countries across the globe - including Britain. Apparently there are over 130 people claiming to be Targeted individuals. 30+ are in London alone. We have also discovered that the majority are recent apart from a few who range within 10-20+ years. Not very many in that time frame. So we make the comment that people are designed to do themselves in. Its a natural thing if you are tortured. I will come back to this concept of torture soon.

You have to understand what this is all about - The whole of the spectrum is used to induce a range of symptoms. I have done loads of research on medical and military equipment that is used in the field of electromagnetic therapy and its use in battle. This includes new advances in its use elsewhere - like kid control - "Mosquito" device for stopping kids from hanging about in a particular space. Designed and built by a British company - Wales. Fits into the Sonic part of the spectrum

I believe that it started off in the military and medical field and was used in warfare and saving people if you like.

It is about seeing how far you can take a human before they self-destruct. This is why it stems from the military as was the Tavistock's main purpose and main reason for setting it up. It had a few notable psychiatrists who stemmed from that background. Hence making the joining of the military and the medical a occurance which is written down in history.

At this point in the twenties there was an explosion of interest in the topics to do with behavoural science with the setting up of notable institutions world wide. All feeding off each other in research and new practice.

And so its development flourished under the guise of"helping" you deal with your troubles. It is now coming to light that the so called respectable science field is full of mengele types all experimenting on their victims. There are loads of examples that are available to see on the internet.

I call it Medical Torture - it also fits into the funny idea of Bahavoural Science. Manipulation of the Human

This book apparently is used as todays guide to torture?

Read this site:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/17/2347/10023

It looks at this book and other peoples opinions of the book - including sensory deprivation

Frankenstein's Children: Modern Torture's Scientific Bible
by Valtin

Sat Sep 16, 2006 at 11:03:47 PM PDT

What if there was a book that dispassionately looked at the history and methodology of torture? What if this book looked at human physiology and psychology and tried to scientifically establish how to best break another human being and bend him or her to your will? What if this book were written by top behavioral scientists and published in the United States? And, finally, what if the studies published in this book were financed by the U.S. government?
Look no farther, there is, or rather was, such a book. Published in 1961 by John Wiley & Sons, The Manipulation of Human Behavior was edited by psychologists Albert D. Biderman and Herbert Zimmer. This book, can be found online, a second edition or printing ever made (not surprisingly). But I will provide a review here, and an introduction into the nightmare world of science, torture, and politics that helped shape our modern world and today's news.

I think you are right about the peadophile connection. I say this because it is connected to crime and its broader church. This in turn has been connected to established institutions such as outcomes -MKUltra and Monarch. Sex slaves, prostitution, human trafficking, drugs etc etc. So you have hit the nail on the head.

I see it as good against evil. I think different personality types are chosen to see how they react. In the mean time you are suicided literally. Health, life, career, family breakdowns. Other members of the family are indirectly attacked. AND then you are literally driven to suicide - as the same as your two friends as they see their lives slip away from them.

Now do you see why I call it "torture". Because it is. I also consider it has alot to the natural survival of the fittest (Darwinian), Eugenics - I did not know this until recently that he was into the eugenics movement alongside Hitler as well as a few others. Back to the Darwinian idea - but with a little help from your friends - the bastards who are pulling the puppet strings on your behalf.

The idea is that it looks very natural and because of your beliefs or bad timing - you are chosen to be the unconsensual target for this horrible crime.

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Neuropsychology

I chose to add this as it relates specifically to one of the core aspects of research to do with the Tavistock Institute and there are of course other pathways. I will add some but not all ok. You can see the list below.

Neuropsychology is a branch of psychology and neurology that aims to understand how the structure and function of the brain relate to specific psychological processes and overt behaviors.
It is scientific in its approach and shares an information processing view of the mind with cognitive psychology and cognitive science.
It is one of the more eclectic of the psychological disciplines, overlapping at times with areas such as neuroscience, philosophy (particularly philosophy of mind), neurology, psychiatry and computer science (particularly by making use of artificial neural networks).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuropsychology

The last bit is probably the most significant interest to me - computer science - the use of artificial networks - like creating the behaviour of someone.

I have just looked at the other links -

Behavioral neurology
Brain fitness
Clinical neuropsychology
Cognitive behavioral therapy
Cognitive neuropsychiatry
Cognitive neuropsychology
Cognitive neuroscience
Comparative neuropsychology
Dialectical behavioral therapy
DO
Emotional stroop
MD
Neurocognitive
Neurology
Neuropsychiatry
Neuropsychological test
Neurophysiology
Neuroscience
Nonviolent communication
Philosophy of mind
Psychiatry
Psychology
PhD
PsyD
Rational emotive behavior therapy
ScD

The life coach offered courses in this too - oh my god - we are close to the epicentre. She also offered Non violent communication, This is about compassion. This is not a subject e-harassment that promotes compassion. Hearers back off. They think you are in the realms of being a nutbar.

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:08 PM
This is so important - this is all a cover. My life coach was running a course on this. It is considered to be brainwashing and I have seen quite a few complaints from the recruited about the crapness of the content. All the complainers put their stuff on CULT sites. But its also a cover to lead me in the wrong direction. I see all sides of the blitz attack now

Oh my god - this is all fitting together. She offered courses in it in my locality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_communication#Programs
http://nonviolentcommunication.com/
http://cnvc.org/

Empathy
Empathy, as practiced in NVC, is a somewhat subtle concept involving understanding the essential core of an individual's experience and a kindly "energy" of connection and "presence." The explicit empathy process offered by NVC is often itself referred to as "giving empathy." It is more accurately a procedure that supports the development of true empathy. This process involves guessing the feelings and needs of another (empathy for another), or sensing one's own feelings and needs (self-empathy). The empathy process for another may be conducted out loud, as an interaction with that person, or silently, as an inner approach to awareness of that person's experience.
Empathy brings about understanding of the needs of the one "receiving" empathy, and also relieves emotional charge. Emotional charge is often uncomfortable and is a barrier to being able to hear others clearly and respond in a flexible fashion. Thus, empathy may be used to relieve distress and increase understanding and readiness for hearing.

I then looked at Scientology and non violence

http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/violence.htm
http://skull.piratehaven.org/~atman/factnet/app4a.txt

there is loads of stuff on it?

If you are a sociopath you do not have empathy? The woman told me she had four agreements in life based on the teachings of Toltec

The four agreements - don miguel ruiz's code for life

agreement 1

Be impeccable with your word - Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

agreement 2

Don’t take anything personally - Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.

agreement 3

Don’t make assumptions - Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

agreement 4

Always do your best - Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret

Her favourite was no 2. I have this in writing. Now apply this to the e-harassment situation. I will explain. If you are under surveillance. Mind read - computer hacked - mobile intercepted - gang stalked. You cannot achieve one of those things - you have no control what so-ever. "They" do.

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:13 PM
Parapsychology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

Parapsychology (from the Greek: ???? para, "alongside" + psychology) is the study of paranormal psychological phenomena, such as extra-sensory perception, psychokinesis, and survival of consciousness after death. Parapsychologists call these processes psi, a term non-suggestive of what causes the phenomena or experiences.[1]

Remote viewing is mentioned here?

Also remember that The Tavistock Institute - one of its American places

In 1911, Stanford University became the first academic institution in the United States to study extra-sensory perception (ESP) and psychokinesis (PK) in a laboratory setting.


Decade of increased research (1970s)
The affiliation of the Parapsychological Association (PA) with the American Association for the Advancement of Science, along with a general openness to psychic and occult phenomena in the 1970s, led to a decade of increased parapsychological research. During this period, other notable organizations were also formed, including the Academy of Parapsychology and Medicine (1970), the Institute of Parascience (1971), the Academy of Religion and Psychical Research, the Institute of Noetic Sciences (1973), the International Kirlian Research Association (1975), and the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Laboratory (1979). Parapsychological work was also conducted at the Stanford Research Institute during this time.[4]


This needs to be explored further - too much to look at now. The links are there. Including hallucinations - ghosts?

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Eugenics a Nazi direction to control - social engineering

Eugenics is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of human hereditary traits through various forms of intervention.[1] The goals of various groups advocating eugenics have been to create healthier, more intelligent people, to save society's resources, and lessen human suffering. More controversially, some, such as the Nazi regime in Germany, have sought to use it to preserve and enhance supposed "racial purity".

Opponents argue that eugenics is immoral and is based on, or is itself, pseudoscience. Historically, eugenics has been used as a justification for coercive state-sponsored discrimination and human rights violations, such as forced sterilization of persons who are claimed to have genetic defects, the killing of the institutionalized population and, in some cases, outright genocide of races perceived as inferior or undesirable.

Most notable people who supported the eugenics movement

Charles Darwin -

Charles Robert Darwin (12 February 1809 – 19 April 1882) was an English naturalist.[I] After becoming eminent among scientists for his field work and inquiries into geology, he proposed and provided scientific evidence that all species of life have evolved over time from one or a few common ancestors through the process of natural selection.[1]

Alexander Graham Bell -

Alexander Graham Bell was called "the father of the deaf".[2] With both his mother and wife deaf, he studied hereditary deafness in order to better understand the affliction, leading him to a career as a teacher of the deaf.[3] His research on hearing and speech further led him to experiment with hearing devices that eventually culminated in the telephone.

George Bernard Shaw -

George Bernard Shaw (26 July 1856–2 November 1950) was a world-renowned Irish author. Born in Dublin, he moved to London when he turned twenty. Having rejected formal schooling (toward which he had an enduring antipathy), he educated himself by independent study in the reading room of the British Museum; he also began his career there by writing novels for which he could not find a publisher.
His first success was as a music and literary critic, but he was drawn to drama and authored more than sixty plays during his career. Typically his work is leavened by a delightful vein of comedy, but nearly all of it bears earnest messages Shaw hoped his audiences would embrace.
Politically an ardent socialist, he wrote many brochures and speeches for the Fabian Society and became an accomplished orator in furtherance of its causes. Those included gaining equal political rights for men and women, alleviating abuses of the working class, rescinding private ownership of land and promoting healthful lifestyles.

Winsten Churchill -

Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, FRS, PC (Can) (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965) was a British politician who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1940 to 1945 and again from 1951 to 1955. A noted statesman, orator and strategist, Churchill was also an officer in the British Army. He has been studied to a unique extent as part of modern British and world history. A prolific author, he won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1953 for his own historical writings.[1]

Adolf Hitler -

Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was the leader of National Socialist (Nazi) German Workers Party. He was appointed Chancellor of Germany in 1933, becoming "Führer" in 1934 until his suicide in 1945.
The Nazis gained power during Germany's period of crisis after World War I. They used propaganda and charismatic oratory, emphasizing nationalism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Communism. After restructuring the economy and rearming the military, a totalitarian dictatorship based around the Führer was established. Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy, with an ideological goal of Lebensraum (expanding living space for Germans). The German Invasion of Poland in 1939 triggered armed conflict between the British and French Empires (the Allies) and Germany.


Funding was provided by prestigious sources such as the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Institution of Washington, and the Harriman family.[2] Its scientific reputation started to tumble in the 1930s, a time when Ernst Rüdin began incorporating eugenic rhetoric into the racial policies of Nazi Germany.

Since the postwar period, both the public and the scientific communities have associated eugenics with Nazi abuses, such as enforced racial hygiene, human experimentation, and the extermination of undesired population groups.


Britain


Galton's view of the British class structure was the basis and emphasis of the eugenics movement in Britain.
In Britain, eugenics never received significant state funding. Furthermore, its emphasis was more upon class, rather than race [40]. Indeed, Galton expressed these views during a lecture in 1901 in which he placed the British society into groups. These groupings are shown in the figure and indicate the proportion of society falling into each group and their perceived genetic worth. Galton suggested that negative eugenics (i.e. an attempt to prevent them from bearing offspring) should be applied only to those in the lowest social group (the "Undesirables"), while positive eugenics applied to the higher classes. However, he appreciated the worth of the higher working classes to society and industry.
Sterilisation programmes were never legalised, although some were carried out in private upon the mentally ill by clinicians who were in favour of a more widespread eugenics plan [41]. (Sterilisation had, in fact, been carried out to prevent masturbation in mentally ill patients since the 1820s, long before the eugenics movement.) Indeed, those in support of eugenics shifted their lobbying of Parliament from enforced to voluntary sterilization, in the hope of achieving more legal recognition [42].
The popularity of eugenics in Britain was reflected by the fact that only two universities established courses in this field (University College London and Liverpool University), but the position of a professorship in eugenics was never created at either. The Galton Institute, affiliated to UCL, was headed by Galton's protégé, Karl Pearson.

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:19 PM
United States
The second largest eugenics movement was in the United States. Beginning with Connecticut in 1896, many states enacted marriage laws with eugenic criteria, prohibiting anyone who was "epileptic, imbecile or feeble-minded" from marrying. In 1898 Charles B. Davenport, a prominent American biologist, began as director of a biological research station based in Cold Spring Harbor where he experimented with evolution in plants and animals. In 1904 Davenport received funds from the Carnegie Institution to found the Station for Experimental Evolution. The Eugenics Record Office opened in 1910 while Davenport and Harry H. Laughlin began to promote eugenics.[30]
During the 20th century, researchers became interested in the idea that mental illness could run in families and conducted a number of studies to document the heritability of such illnesses as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. Their findings were used by the eugenics movement as proof for its cause. State laws were written in the late 1800s and early 1900s to prohibit marriage and force sterilization of the mentally ill in order to prevent the "passing on" of mental illness to the next generation. These laws were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1927 and were not abolished until the mid-20th century. By 1945 over 45,000 mentally ill individuals in the United States had been forcibly sterilized.
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Two mentions of Rockefeller so far?

Eugenics is a recurrent theme in science fiction, often with both dystopian and utopian elements. The two giant contributions in this field are the novel Brave New World (1932) by Aldous Huxley, which describes a society where control of human biology by the state results in permanent social stratification.


Nature v nuture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture.

Then social Justice came to mind as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice

Social justice refers to the concept of a just society, where "justice" refers to more than just the administration of laws. It is based on the idea of a society which gives individuals and groups fair treatment and a just share of the benefits of society. Different proponents of social justice have developed different interpretations of what constitutes fair treatment and a just share. It can also mean distribution of advantages and disadvantages within a society or community.

TI's are not treated fairly

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Eugenics - places to look

http://www.eugenics.net/
http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/dh23eu.html

INFO on Eugenics

to see all active sites look here

http://www.bioethicsanddisability.org/eugenics.html

Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to “improving” the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded, partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high ranking officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy.

The Order of the Golden Dawn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

http://www.golden-dawn.com/temple/index.jsp

http://www.golden-dawn.org/

Influences on Golden Dawn concepts and work include: Christian mysticism, Qabalah, Hermeticism, the religion of Ancient Egypt, Theurgy, Freemasonry, Alchemy, Theosophy, Eliphas Levi, Papus, Enochian magic, and Renaissance grimoires.

Chicke

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:23 PM
People who were important in Golden Dawn

Sara Allgood (1879-1950), Irish stage actress and later film actress in America. Because of her beautiful speaking voice, Allgood often performed the readings at Golden Dawn ceremonies.[citation needed]
Allan Bennett (1872-1923), best known for introducing Buddhism to the West
Arnold Bennett (1867-1931), a British novelist
Dr. Edward Berridge, homeopathic physician
Aleister Crowley (1875-1947), occult writer and mountaineer
Florence Farr (1860-1917), London stage actress and musician
Robert Felkin (1853-1925), medical missionary, explorer and anthropologist in Central Africa, author
Frederick Leigh Gardner
Maud Gonne (1866-1953), Irish Revolutionary, author, feminist
Annie Horniman (1860-1937), repertory theatre producer and pioneer. Her father was a wealthy tea importer (he also endowed the Horniman Museum); her family's wealth funded most of the Golden Dawn's activities. Consequently, she was one of the very few members immune to the in-fighting and competitiveness which ultimately led to the Order's dissolution.[citations needed]
Arthur Machen (1863-1947), a leading London journalist of the 1890s, Welsh by birth and upbringing
Gustav Meyrink (1868-1932), Austrian author, storyteller, dramatist, translator, banker and Buddhist
E. Nesbit (1858-1924), real name Edith Bland: English author and political activist
Charles Rosher (1885-1974), cinematographer
Pamela Colman Smith (1878-1951), fin de sičcle artist and co-creator of the Rider-Waite Tarot deck
William Sharp (1855-1905), poet and author, alias "Fiona MacLeod"
Evelyn Underhill (1875-1941), Christian Mystic, author of "Mysticism: A Study in Nature and Development of Spiritual Consciousness".
Arthur Edward Waite (1857-1942), author, Freemason and co-creator of the Rider-Waite Tarot deck
Charles W. S. Williams (1886-1945), was a British writer and poet
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939), Irish poet, dramatist and writer, Nobel Prize for Literature (1923)
[edit]Contemporary Golden Dawn Orders

Aleister Crowley

Aleister Crowley, born Edward Alexander Crowley, (12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947; the surname is pronounced /'kr??.li/ i.e. with the first syllable sounding like "crow" in English) was a British occultist, writer, philosopher and mystic.[1]
He is best known today for his occult writings, especially The Book of the Law, the central sacred text of Thelema. Crowley was also an influential member in several occult organizations, including the Golden Dawn, the Argenteum Astrum, and Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.).[2]
Other interests and accomplishments were wide-ranging—he was a chess player, mountain climber, poet, painter, astrologer, hedonist, drug experimenter, and social critic.
Crowley had claimed to be a Freemason, but the regularity of his initiations with the United Grand Lodge of England has been disputed.[3]
Crowley gained much notoriety during his lifetime, and was infamously dubbed "The Wickedest Man In the World."[4]

He was known to work with Gerald Gardner - who was into Wicca

Aleister Crowley had a student called Ron Hubbard - leader of Scientology

Chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:32 PM
The Tavistock Institute is headquartered in London. Its "prophet", Sigmund Freud (psychotic Nazi sympathizer, cocaine addict, sexual deviant) settled in Maresfield Gardens, when he relocated to England. He was given a mansion by Princess Bonaparte. Tavistock's pioneer work in behavioral science, along Freudian lines of *controlling* human beings, established it as the world center of foundation ideology. Its network now extends from the University of Sussex to the U.S., through the Stanford Research Institute, Esalen, MIT, Hudson Institute, Heritage Foundation, Center of Strategic and International Studies at Georgetown (where State Dept. personnel are trained), US Air Force Intelligence, and the Rand and Mitre corporations. All personnel at those corporations are required to undergo indoctrination at one or more of these Tavistock-controlled institutions.

Sigmund Freud

his theories remain controversial and disputed by numerous critics, among them one who called him the "creator of a complex pseudo-science which should be recognized as one of the great follies of Western civilisation"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud
http://www.freudfile.org/
http://users.rcn.com/brill/freudarc.html

Its a bit like a history lesson!!;)

chicken

chicken
12-09-2007, 01:34 PM
The Monkey Submission Response

Research into the use of microwave weapons and their use for mind control began in 1950s at the Tavistock Institute, one of Britain's leading psychiatric research establishments. The UK institute was researching into ways of mind controlling the British population without them knowing. The monkey submission response, whereby the dominant monkey caused submissive behaviour in the underlings, was the brain state of most interest to the British scientists. Having found this specific brain rhythm for docile submissive, zombie-like behaviour, it was then recorded and used as the template for the ELF signal beamed on UK microwave transmitters. Britain was the first discoverer of microwave technology, used for radar, in the 1940s and therefore had a commanding lead over everyone else in this field.

Chicken

deca
14-09-2007, 10:20 AM
It seems your body acts like an antenna


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyless_entry_systems



Here's something random that actually works though: if you have a normal remote unlocker that uses radio frequency (mine is on a Chevy Blazer), you will get much farther range if you hold the remote on the bottom of your chin and use your head as an antenna

video keyless entry remote not working use your head silly
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/01/video-keyless-entry-remote-not-working-use-your-head-silly/



http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF3/386.html

One reason the question is unanswered is that the energy absorbed by a human from radio waves depends upon the relationship between the size of the human and the frequency of the radio waves. Just as a TV antenna of the right length and orientation picks up the best signal (the most energy) from a transmitted wave, so it is with a human being. It appears that the cranial cavity of a mammal will resonate at specific radio frequencies determined by the size of the brain cavity. At these resonant frequencies the human head will absorb vastly more radiowave energy than it will at other nearby frequencies.

An adult's head will resonate at a frequency between 350 and 400 MHz (megahertz). Being smaller, a child's head will resonate at a higher frequency, somewhere between 600 and 850 MHz. Since each individual may have his or her own resonant frequency, a particular frequency radiowave might affect one person more than another. Consequently, testing on humans--even if people are willing to let this happen--can be rather complicated.

Aside from the question of permanent damage by absorption of too much radiowave energy, there is the issue of how much radiation it takes to temporarily modify human behavior or mental ability. It is suspected that a microwave signal modulated (i.e., pulsed) at the frequencies where human brainwaves operate (1 to 20 Hz) may affect mental processes, even if the radiation is too weak to create substantial heating of the brain.

Quite obviously it is a complicated issue to determine the effects of radiowaves upon humans and other animals. Just knowing the strength of the radio signal a person is immersed in is not enough. Critically important may be the frequency match between the signal and the person's body and whether or not the signal is modulated at a frequency that could match up to a person's brainwave pattern.

Complicating matters even further is the finding that mammals can be made to "hear" pulses of radiowave emission. Pulses at frequencies within a mammal's hearing range can cause periodic healings of the head. These create pressure pulses in the ear that are interpreted as sound. Further, some studies have indicated radiowave effects upon cell processes that could affect the nervous system, the cardiovascular system and immunity to disease. The effects are not necessarily all bad: certain cancers are being successfully treated with radiowaves, and the future of even greater success looks bright.




http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/index.php


Summary of what is different about TETRA

1. TETRA has a rhythm of its own, its base station beat is 70.56Hz and its repetition frequency is 17.65Hz. Both are harmful frequencies, and are discernable not by fancy electronics, but by simple rectification of the microwave signal.
2. TETRA handsets have a sharp pulse at 17.65Hz, which is a key bio-frequency.
3. TETRA is persistent. Unlike mobile phone masts, TETRA masts are on full power 24/7. Phone masts are quieter at night, TETRA masts carry on the noisy party.
4. TETRA operates at 380MHz, which is more penetrative to buildings and tissues, than 900MHz GSM or up to 2.4GHz 3G (UMTS).
5. TETRA is an elliptically polarised signal, which is indicated in studies to be have more pronounced biological effects.

deca
14-09-2007, 11:24 AM
use http://gnaural.sourceforge.net/

set beat freqency to 70.56

then move the base frequency 350 to 400 until it jams/interrupts out
V2k!!!!! until you find your unique resonant frequencies
http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/index.php

I use headphones and my pc ones have a vibrate function!!!!


Ha ha ha

we win :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


The perps might being playing tricks on me making it better than it is!!!!

I here a wierd tone every time they try and speak !!!!

chicken
15-09-2007, 03:18 PM
"Susan Blakemore"

1994
By controlling the nature of the magnetic fields, causing them to simulate brain patterns, Persinger is able to stimulate strong emotions and hallucinations, including the illusion of touch and movement. (Blackmore, Susan, "Alien Abduction: The Inside Story", New Scientist, 11/19/94, pg 29-31. Persinger is shown demonstrating this device on the British TV show Horizon entitled "Close Encounters", written and narrated by Susan Blackmore. For their efforts, both Persinger and Blackmore have been accused of being in the Aviary.) The Aviary are connected to the development of Psi and parapsychology. Uri Geller and other notable researchers were involved. Uri was a test subject at one point.


I wrote to this lady recently. I think I need to write to her again. This time asking the right questions. She is the partner of Adam Hart Davies. I know all this exists - this is not an illusion in my head. It is pointed out in so many places - it is amazing.

I have since discovered that Scientology worked with the Stanford Research Institute with the research and of psychotronics. Also I found out that EST founder Werner Erehard was a later sponsor of the research side of this - he was interested in remote viewing and other aspects of this concept. EST is a break away group from Scientology.

So apparently the links are there to e-harassment!! according to various places I have looked

chicken

chicken
15-09-2007, 03:20 PM
Deca - how about this for a find

Tifareth offers occult and esoteric software for people interested on magick, radionics and psychotronics. Cast electronic magic spells and love spells with Tele Hypnosis Pro or Radionics Workstation 2007.

More information about our course of remote psychic seduction and mind magic: If you are interested on psychic seduction or you would like to know how to seduce women remotely (or men), if you want to learn techniques and ways for fast seduction using the power of your mind, then this could could be of high interest for you. This course includes techniques of psychotronics and mind control to focus and address your psychic energy for remote fast seduction.

http://www.tifareth.com/
This sounds very worrying - "Remote"

Quote:
indeed, most of the techniques of this course will be applied remotely


Chicken

deca
15-09-2007, 03:58 PM
Think people have being selling "love potions" and how to get laid books since the beginning of time.

Like I have being trying to tell you mind control techniques is nothing new
they evolve with new technology and ways to deliver them.

I.e storys,books,social settings,radio,tv,media,drugs,implants,EMF

also there a various degrees of control, we are near the top of the strong nasty end as the perps are directly forcing us agaist or will.

adverts will try and influence our decision to buy a certain product,but want torture us if we don`t.

be careful not to label everything to do with mild control as evil or to do with wants happening to us.

deca
15-09-2007, 04:05 PM
There is nothing wrong in Training your own mind for your own good,
its like exercising your body.
This stuff looks like its for people who can`t be bothered to learn how to do it and want a quick fix.

deca
16-09-2007, 08:21 PM
Jon Ronson - For The Love of Big Brother 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2vwQf7BEGU

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktPRUm0Bwa8

part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyGiNg7lFk

part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlytCbQCtiI

part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHEMrMjVfs

chicken
16-09-2007, 11:17 PM
Disabling Effects of Neurological Weaponry

In order to discredit, disable, brainwash, torture, interrogate, and/or kill thousands of targets in the United States and abroad without the general population becoming morally outraged, these methods using the world’s most amazing silent kill weaponry were perfected by the KGB, CIA, and Nazis. This weapon replaces traditional poisons and staged accidents as the preferred way to “Sheppard” the masses, silently eliminate DoD scientists, NSA agents, free thinkers, retired assassins, rogue politicians, etc.

Trying to maintain an image of a morally superior culture is impossible if the same tyrannical tactics used to manipulate current and previous populations which are known in a historical context as barbaric are thereby recognized. So mythologies and pseudosciences were developed to give a dead end reasoning mechanism for the population in order to explain away the horrific hysterical reactions of targets’ testimony about this silent weapon of disablement and slow tortuous kills.

While natural mental illness as defined by cultural norms does exist, targets of neurological weapons usually experience all of them. The CIA has studied and recorded the brain functions of every kind of mental illness and helped developed the weapon system to where it is today. This research goes far beyond the LSD and other drug research on the population. It is beyond the scope of this section to describe how those drug experiments were actually part of the development of EEG cloning technology, referred to in the 70’s due to these kinds of intentionally induced mental error inductions as “psychotronic generators” – i.e. creating psychopaths. The modern day terminology for automated computer programs to generate mental dysfunction are called “mind viruses”, an analogy of what a computer virus does. These are classified as information weapons since they directly affect information processing in the human brain. Obviously the weapons cross classify under psychological warfare, directed energy, and many others.

Below is a glossary of the most popular mental illnesses as defined by the DSM standard manual. The purpose of this glossary is to show how the illnesses are mimicked using this weaponry and to help explain why from an amateurs naļve point of view the cause of the “illnesses” can not easily be distinguished from the naturally occurring segment of the population. The sophistication of the CIA “trickery” is impressive but not when put into context of costs and time to develop.

Hysteria, panic – Onset of torture can be gradual or sudden. In order to make the target act “irrationally in public” as the CIA documents describe and create a track record with the police, FBI, and psychiatry community, a multitude of techniques are used. Those who are EEG cloned with audio cortex mapping also known as silent sound will have audio communication that can not be blocked with ear plugs. The most common threats that accompany torture is that “they” are using sonic bullets which are killing the brain and heart, threat of car bombs, kill family, etc. Naturally, anyone who is unfamiliar with this weapon capability will panic, become hysterical that some great evil is torturing them and threatening everything else they value. This is just part of standard torture and break down techniques in the CIA manual.

Paranoia – Paranoia is easily induced with a combination of gas lighting techniques and stalking methods. A target who is sucker punched by the world’s richest military and most sophisticated weapon natural will distrust everyone as their reality comes crashing down with the ultimate betrayal. In addition, more sophisticated methods of false importance and word meaning associations are used. That technique is too complex to briefly describe here but can create disorders called “media stalking” or “internet stalking”. (See sensitization behavior modification techniques)

Personality changes – brain imprinting which can be thought of as soul erasure, EEG cloning, and behavior modification alter the individual’s very important and unique neurological patterns. These patterns represent the personality, both a summation of genetics and nurture. Brain imprinting is the slow repetitive direct neurological brain washing techniques. (monkey see, monkey do kind of philosophy). EEG cloning is a sudden and direct usurpation of the mind (see split personalities). (story of woman who wakes up from a coma that speaks with a foreign accent)

Split Personalities – Artificially done through EEG cloning, and mind viruses with emotion brain entrainments accompanied by vocabulary talk bots. The mythologies about this condition are daemonic possessions, etc. While everyone puts on a false personae depending on different social groups, this is more extreme where the person often doesn’t remember the alter personality. The mimicry of this condition is severe and very different. The CIA has done lots of research to create programmed assassins that could pass polygraphs, sex slaves for politicians for blackmail manipulation, and spies who have sensitive information for memory compartmentalization. However, even with all the classical physical methods of trauma and torture to split personalities for these purposes, the EEG cloning technology offers an alternative. Using the same technology other minor variations can be created like turrets when the emotional component is taken out. The illusion is created most profoundly using EEG cloning where the brain entrainments of the other participant is being forced into the target brain. It will come in and out depending on focus of attention. It is a kind of hypnosis that can be broken using a variety of methods. This can distinguish between the natural and artificially induced conditions.

Disassociated disorder – This is artificially created through torture. Humans will escape from emotional and physical pain by suddenly shutting off emotions. Children who are sexually or physically abused often do it. Useful in creating programmed assassins and sociopathic behavior as well as one of the step of creating “alter” personalities in brainwashing.

Bipolar – This condition is easily simulated with target projects. Since every emotion can be induced, mimicry of emotional swings are part of rocking the target mind to instability. Also part of trying to create split personalities. Differentiating government projects from naturally occurring illness is easily done by the trained professional. One difference is that people who complain of hearing voices should only hear the voices during a manic phase. With government projects the communication is projected during all phases of the simulated emotional swings as one example. The goal is to discredit the project and get them diagnosed with as many disorders as possible according to the CIA documents.

Mania – Mimics through behaviors. Going on spending sprees is one such symptom. The government target project goes through typical elation and depression phases. Since the target is privy to the world’s greatest secret and an amazing technology they often think they will be able to be a hero or inventor and expose it to the civilian world. They spend every dime to find shielding and other defenses driving them into poverty. Then they usually enter the depression stage after they realize how big the cover up is and that the weapon system has become global. They enter the hopelessness stage.

Depression – 3.3 hertz entrainment, negative hypnosis and subliminals through EEG cloning and silent sound do the trick. Being betrayed and tortured with no end in site obviously creates depression. All the values of freedom, justice, and the good people quickly fade with their new reality.

Sleep Disorders, chronic fatigue – The LIDA machine is the most famous example of using electromagnetic signals to put an audience to sleep. This is the most disruptive of all the neurological weapons capabilities. It is designed so that over time “the target will be unable to hold down work and function”. The artificially created disorder is always accompanied with many other sudden onset of inflictions of mental illnesses. Only using EEG pattern analysis can a very skilled professional see how the brain is being kept from entering REM sleep states and at other times being forced into high delta and theta brain wave entrainments.

Catatonic states / Zombification – mental spinning, internal distraction, extremely severe ADD, depression, hypnosis, trancing. These are a few of the techniques to disable a human. The DoD programs were called “Zombie I-V”. Each technique creates a slightly different disabling effect but the overall objective is the same and that is to make the target “spin their wheels indefinitely” or shut down the higher cognitive functions and motivation/will.

Thought sonarization – I, the writer of this document, can’t help but admire this scam. Tracked back to a French psychologist several years after the weapon system came online, it is now a popular “illness”. There is no naturally occurring equivalent as thought sonarization. This a pure byproduct of the neurological weapon system. But it has been slowly introduced to be accepted in the pseudoscience field of psychology. One of my favorite stories is of a psychiatrist with Kaiser Permanente who had been diagnosing patients with this illness and suddenly was targeted himself. He said, “How could I have known that this existed? I was wrong and everyone has been duped.” The systems are over four decades old and planned out to be thorough so as to manipulate the people who are unaware or unaffected into disbelief. The best motto for the skeptic is “You have to see it for yourself.” The CIA “trick” is extremely technical and derived by Stanford Research Institute before it went black. The target claims, “My thoughts are spoken in my internal voice that I perceive audibly before I finish thinking them.” The audio-cortex mapping of word choice patterns using the classical multi-gram probability matrices are then feedback with ‘silent sound’. So the target is actually mistaken with their claim. What happens is people are predictable with their word choices and sentences. The software can predict the best possible completion of the thought sonarization with some accuracy after months of training patterns. Even if the completion is wrong, the target is led to believe with suggestion that is how he or she would have completed the sentence. Again, it is beyond the scope of this section for more details of the technologies. Research speech recognition algorithms and markov modeling if interested.

Turrets – While only funny as an observer, turrets symptoms can be simply induced with the system. Known as “forced speech” by the community of human government projects and useful for false confessions and screwing up politicians speeches, it has a simple derivative to mimic this illness. Either induced through EEG cloning or the automated mind viruses, constrained vocabularies using neural induction can be forced. Obviously, sporadic vulgar language is a simple program extension.

ADD (attention deficit disorder) – Next to sleeping disorders this is the second most powerful neurological weapon capability which over time will disable a target. It is a component for mimicry of other mental illnesses like Schizophrenia. Constant context switches due to the frontal lobe brain entrainment patterns will basically cause the amount of brain cycles that can be used to solve a problem reduced. It makes the target unable to prioritize and in the most severe attack can create a zombie where the person can not act or function at all.

Schizophrenia – Typical symptoms that define this illness: non sequitor thoughts and speech, social dysfunction and isolation, inability to hold work, etc. The synthetic version called “remote schizophrenia” by the DoD, simply uses a combination of all the other capabilities listed in this glossary. ADD + bipolar for example will mimic Schizophrenia. Add other methods of error induction to create delusions (or errors of thought) and the illusion for the external observer is perfect. Common examples of induced errors of assumptions and memories: Brain chip implants or evil aliens have abducted the target.

Compulsive/Obsessive – To an outsider of the technology capabilities this seems irrational. But to induce the equivalent of this disorder is easily done through directed energy torture everyday. Anyone who is being wronged in such a grave way and not allowed to forget and heal with spend every second of everyday trying to inform people and find a solution to end their suffering. To an observer, this behavior appears compulsive obsessive but is quite rational given the context of the target.

General Psychopathy – Best illustrated in a movie called “Clockwork Orange”, a reverse process is used to program and condition a target with violent thoughts using a multitude of methods including dream programming, creating white hot anger, etc. Frustration that so called free press is really controlled adds to the build up that often breaks the targets into acts of violence that get written off in the news as psychopaths. Betrayal by government and seemingly callous, selfish people to stop the torture is another frustration that adds to the eventual breaking of the person. This is how it is done. A famous example is a Berkley student who held a bar hostage at gun point demanding that the head of the CIA or president stop the torture using beaming weapons. SWAT ended up shooting him dead. There are thousands of stories exactly like this one in the FBI case files.

Audio/visual hallucinations – While these conditions obviously exist in nature and can be artificially induced by LSD and other drugs, little is documented by using electromagnetics to do it. However, exact audio and visual programming can be done in many projects using EEG cloning. Just like how the brain learns as a baby to interpret the world through its senses, artificial senses can be “grown” into a target in a similar fashion so that under complete sensory deprivation the artificial signal will be interpreted in the brain as similar real senses. So for example in stead of having 5 senses, a target of this technology will have 10 partial senses. The reader should start to get an understanding of how this same technology is responsible for everything from split personalities to splitting the sensory perception interpretations.

Delusion transference - This is the closing of the loop of the tautology. (tautology means circular logic). When the psychology profession was being developed, they inserted this “illness” into the book to ensure their authority. If anyone who listens or understands this technology and these tactics after scrutiny and research, they instantly become labeled mentally ill and discredited. Imagine Christopher Columbus being label mentally ill because he wouldn’t listen to the mental midgets that claimed the earth was square. Imagine Galileo labeled mentally ill because the Church disagreed with gravity theory. This is how the irrational, erroneous views that define culture is maintained no matter how dumb it really is. The whole profession is based on norms of intelligence and understanding slowing the progress of culture and civilization but making sure the slow pokes of the species are left too far behind.

Sensitization training creates many phobias, paranoias, and delusions – Widely used in neurological directed energy weapons behavior modification experiments. Simply by applying correlated pleasure/pain signals with any other sense recognition, a phobia or delusion can be created. Pretty straight forward.

Hyperchondriac – During the heaviest part of brainwashing attacks, the target is informed that they are being given cancer with the directed energy and their body organs are being damaged in various ways. Of course given the feeling of intensity of pain and false sensations being induced into their nervous systems, the target believes that their body is being fried. While in fact there is damage done, it is done through secondary effects of stress and inability of the target to care for their bodies like taking medications on time, reduced immunity from sleep deprivation, hypertension, etc.

Dementia, confusion, and memory loss – This is the easiest of the techniques of neurological weaponry to simulate natural illness. It is just a combination of ADD, EDOM. (ADD = attention deficient disorder caused by intentional rapid change of focus due to EEG cloning. EDOM = electronic dissolution of memory, a CIA program that uses state dependent memory based on fundamental shifts of consciousness using brain entrainments).

Idiot savantism – Adding noise in a brain creates many interesting illnesses and enhanced perceptions. While there are serious side effects such as schizophrenia, it can also give rise to brilliant ideas and completely erroneous ones called delusion in psychology. MKUltra and other experiments were focusing on some of these aspects as a bazaar kind of “think tank”. They were trying to improve memory, enhance creativity, and in other experiments grow/integrate two or more different brains together using this wireless technology. The experiments had some great successes at create brilliant “alien” minds but have always had serious side effects to the willing or unwilling participants. Related to compulsive obsessive disorder since a compulsive with average intelligence will become a savant in their area of expertise and an idiot in all other aspects of human knowledge.

Hypergraphia – Not really important, but demonstrates how there is an illness for everything. Shakespeare would be diagnosed with this. Obviously those who are articulate and know about the worst human rights violations in human history with a conscience write profusely to reach the largest audience. Just to understand the importance of what has happened, if all were known and there were no secrets, the German Nazis would look like good guys compared to the US/UK conspirators of today. Making the target who is confused by the weapon system and tactics document what they are thinking helps to create a track record for discrediting purposes. The games are all about creating a track record of mental illness so that they can be written off in the media and news if used for an assassination or media political manipulation, in addition it disqualifies the target who may seek revenge from entering government agencies.

Dream manipulation is not covered by any disorder but it is an important part of programming and creating disorders and brain imprinting techniques.

These represent just a small subset of all the mental illnesses that can be artificially created. This glossary is useful in understanding the diabolical techniques used to disable and discredit human experiments and real government projects all based on a single technology and weapon system.

What is the probability of even one of these disorders? Targets of mind viruses will usually get 10 or more. Calculating the odds makes it astronomically improbably a single individual can have these illnesses with sudden onset and a method for “professionals” to distinguish the natural from the artificially induced groups. There are only a handful of technology defenses to help the targets of government pruning of the population.

Most common questions:

How can the average brain be entrained with someone else’s patterns? Why haven’t I learned about these technologies in education or the news?

If you can handle the truth, read the books: “Hacking the Human Mind” and “Designing Gods” for further understanding of the diabolical systems of controls cloaked with the illusion of freedom.

chicken
16-09-2007, 11:19 PM
Blog about Electromagnetic Frequencies
http://cellphonesafety.wordpress.com/category/cloning/

chicken
16-09-2007, 11:21 PM
E Tolle and Psychotronics
Quote:
The NOW Symbol + New Earth +The Now

Formed by two simple characters, the NOW symbol signifies the present moment. > represents the completed past. < represents the future, which is unknowable. The gap between the two marks is NOW - the present moment. It is only in the moment that we can really enjoy life and release ourselves from the mental noise that clutters our brain.


The way the 'angled' brackets come together forms an 'X', which can only mean that 'X marks the spot.'

So, it seems like a form of branding. Corporations have branding; livestock are branded. Livestock are chipped!!

Ummm - well I read these books and when I did a search on this via google - it came up together no problem.

He talks about butterflies flapping their wings and the force is felt as far away as the other side of the world.

I am sorry I know we can read all sorts of stuff into anything. But it applies to the NWO this

WHY? Well the title for one of the books for a start - "New Earth" - New Age - the Aquarious thingy.

Well if you take the quote - it applies to e-harassment. VK2 as well. "Living in the Now" - "Future" what future?

Secondly the butterfly thing - "Monarch" and the idea that this requires very little energy to power the e-harassment - but the effects are huge

It was said that the NWO begins with the "New Age"

Chicken

chicken
19-09-2007, 05:30 PM
Re: MIND CONTROL or NERVE CONTROL?

I understand what it feels like the mind control as well as the nerve control. Still not nice is it? I am not expecting the answer to that - as I already know the answer. :(

You have to remember that this relates to you as a person - mine does. The perps really took me for a ride regarding what it all means why me etc etc.... I have discovered links to where I live and to me and of course the bigger picture. It relates to Social Darwinism, the Theosophical Society, The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn - all those relating geographically to me here in the UK. Thus it relates to the Nazis, the occult, Darwin, Aleister Crowley, Ron Hubbard, Werner Erhard, the Tavistock Institute - the ten other Tavistock Institutes in the USA - including Stanford Research Institute, MIT, the Mankind Research Institute, Nasa, the Military, the Navy - the last three supporting some of the ten Tavistock Institutes. Freud, Kurt Lewin, and the other Psychiatrists in on it if you like.
Ewan Cameron - for taking ordinary people and making them worse in an attempt to psychic drive them - ie ECT and drugs.
I have as a result discovered through my coaching experience that for me I am a victim of "Monarch" ongoing programming. The Omega programming direction if I read my experiences so far. I started with a bout of disassociation - which lasted a few months. Various attempts at the double bind coercian stuff - hypnosis, NLP - some reversal whilst I was in disassociated state. I have masses of body manipulations. I have tried to code green myself twice. Gang stalking - as this is connected to NLP - reading body language and subliminal messages through image, text and colour. I have been followed about and have endured lots of silly skits.
Well what does the future hold for me? Maybe you can answer that one.
The whole stupid jigsaw fits together. The combined understanding of Neuropsychology and Parapspychology. Man and machine and remote viewing - that is mind reading, gang stalking, the mind control stuff mental and physical. A wonderful abstract by Ian Brown who is an expert in remote viewing says that if you think you are followed well you blinkin well are. It was a brilliant scientific study that should be discussed.
I was coached by an acting spiritual mystic who had learned the art of Orwellian double speak and double think - thus leading me to the belief that this was alll normal. She banged on about "the energy" - ok I thought. That was until I got hit by the energy in another way. There you are an example of double think. She was not lying. Just giving me the good not the bad. She forgot to tell me the relativism which was involved. Hence I then got the bad
If I had taken more notice of one of the said required reading matter by E Tolle - "The New Earth - which talked about the "Pain body" and the future dictates the beginning - you have to know the book to understand that. Also it was about relativism.

Connect last posting to this. You see it makes sense to me - I wear my own skin and am aware of my mental and body processes. I am intelligent and have worked it out. Not many TI's do - thus if you understand that if a TI manages to work it out. What is the future for a smart alec - who has unravelled the workings of the British Torture State - one that could have a big mouth. The TI's are known to be bugged and under constant surveillance - hence the successful gang stalking skits - meeting you at the required moment. All TI' complain - of computers, phones, homes etc etc of being compromised that is not forgetting our induced psychic abilities

chicken:rolleyes:

deca
20-09-2007, 05:30 PM
***********************************************
Tim appeared with Ivan Fraser on Channel 4's For The Love of…Big Brother, discussing Psi-warfare and how the British public are subject to mass mind-control by use of the mobile phone network.
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/mmc_tf.html


video posted a few posts back

toppercat
22-09-2007, 10:40 PM
Hello Chicken and Deca and Everyone,
Deca who are the politicians involved in trying to bring a resolvement to Electronic Harrasment.The MPs and MEPs in the UK?
.....Chicken if I want to get in contact with you via e-mail what is the process for doing so?...Is there a vehicle via this webite?
regards,
Toppercat,
Ireland.

deca
22-09-2007, 11:12 PM
BAE Systems plays with HAARP!!!

http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2004/press_10062004.html

The Office of Naval Research has awarded BAE Systems a $35.4 million contract to manufacture 132 high frequency (HF) transmitters for installation in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programs (HAARP) phased array antenna system. The contract was finalised April 19 with BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems in Washington, D.C.


BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems employs 5,700 people at 11 major facilities in eight states. The business unit is a major producer of aircraft self-protection systems and tactical surveillance and intelligence systems for all branches of the armed forces. Other major business areas include microwave, mission and space electronics; infrared imaging; and automated mission planning systems.

deca
23-09-2007, 06:41 PM
Hello Chicken and Deca and Everyone,
Deca who are the politicians involved in trying to bring a resolvement to Electronic Harrasment.The MPs and MEPs in the UK?
.....Chicken if I want to get in contact with you via e-mail what is the process for doing so?...Is there a vehicle via this webite?
regards,
Toppercat,
Ireland.

The members of Fedame http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php (Federation Against Mind Control Europe)

Have set up a mail team to inform MPs,MEP`s around the world,and also other people to bring this situation to the awareness of them so they can act on it
Also on the forum there regular postings of email contacts and petitions to get involved in.

chicken
23-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Deca who are the politicians involved in trying to bring a resolvement to Electronic Harrasment.The MPs and MEPs in the UK?
.....Chicken if I want to get in contact with you via e-mail what is the process for doing so?...Is there a vehicle via this webite?

In the UK Toppercat the only person that springs to mind in Dr Lucas a MEP for the Green Party I think. I have written to her before. I did get a reply. Apparently they have a huge bank of research gathered on this subject. Not sure what the present position is with regards to developments. Fedame are not good at reporting back.

I have sent you a private message - log in and go to your private messages or go to my avater and send to me from there. Intriquing!!!

regards

chicken

deca
25-09-2007, 02:25 PM
BAE Systems formed out of a merger between marconi & ba
Marconi Scientists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marconi_Scientists

Celldar BAE systems
Tracks in the Airwaves
http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/SharedServices/Divisions/AdvancedTechnologyCentre/FeatureArchive/bae_ss_atc_tracks.html

How mobile phones let spies see our every move
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,811027,00.html

similar radar can track a cricket ball travel more than 3 times the speed of sound
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/N...071515558.html

As a network hub, Dagger can be used to expand the area covered by communications, allowing the use of GSM mobile phones
BAE SYSTEMS develops satellite communications to support humanitarian relief operations
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2001/press_05112001.html

Reverb founded by BAE systems
http://www.abrg.group.shef.ac.uk/projects/reverb/public/
*** I think most of the voices I here a generated by a AI script *****


BAE system seems to have the experience's/connections to build a system
that could do this to us.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpool-news/Night-flights-warning-as-Typhoon.869076.jp
Engineers at BAE Systems have already blasted one of the jets with a simulated lightning strike – releasing 150 thousand million watts of power – enough to supply a small town – at a production-line Typhoon for 1,000th of a second.
The experiment was carried out in the safety of BAE's Electronic Warfare Test Facility at the Warton site, which houses some of the most advanced testing equipment in the world.
Nick Bell, operations manager for electromagnetics and electronic warfare, said: "We had completed a lot of computer modelling and smaller tests before and we were confident it would work, but you are always aware you are working with an aircraft worth tens of millions of
pounds.
"Fortunately the test went well and the plane emerged unscathed."
The tests are vital to ensure that the aircraft can fly safely through electrical storms. It is also tested to ensure it can withstand other electromagnetic hazards such as interference from radio and mobile phone masts.

deca
25-09-2007, 02:44 PM
BAE Systems Completes Major New Facility For Ionospheric Physics Research
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/BAE_Systems_Completes_Major_New_Facility_For_Ionos pheric_Physics_Research_999.html

"HAARP is a scientific project to study the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with emphasis on using the ionosphere to improve communications and surveillance systems for civilian and defense purposes," said Rob Jacobsen, HAARP program director for BAE Systems in Washington, D.C.

crowd control
25-09-2007, 04:47 PM
HAARP TO EB4, EB4 CONVERTS TO ULF


BOOUFF! GOODNIGHT FUCKING IRENE !


...Tweak my acoustic control and the bass gets louder
Got the strength to turn concrete and steel to powder...

chicken
25-09-2007, 05:12 PM
Pseudonym: "Buzz Saw" E.E.M.C.
TOWER, 1990, CIA, NSA:
Electronic cross country subliminal programming and suggestion
Targeting: Mass population, short-range intervals, long-range cumulative
Frequencies: Microwave, EHF SHF
Methodology: Cellular telephone system, ELF modulation
Purpose: Programming through neural resonance and encoded information
Effect: Neural degeneration, DNA resonance modification, psychic suppression
Pseudonym: "Wedding Bells"
HAARP, 1995, CIA, NSA, ONR:
Electromagnetic resonant induction and mass population control
Location: Gakona, Alaska
Frequencies: Atmospheric phase-locked resonant UHF VHF
Potential: DNA code alteration in population and mass behavior modification
Power: Giga-watt to Tera-watt range
Step-Down reflective frequencies: Approx 1.1 GHz, Human DNA resonant frequency, cellular system phase-lock
PROJECT CLEAN SWEEP, 1997, 1998, CIA, NSA, ONR:
Electromagnetic resonant induction and mass population control
Location: Nationwide
Frequencies: Emotional wavelengths, data gathering through helicopter probes following media events - rebroadcast in order to restimulate population emotional levels for recreation of event scenarios.
Ref: LE#108, March 1998
Potential: Mass behavior modification
Power: Unknown. Possibly rebroadcast through GWEN network or cellular tower frequencies, coordinated from NBS in Colorado

deca
26-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Monarch II Making the Case (pt one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJjPBbI790

Monarch II Making the Case (pt two)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U98-Vy7yx8U

Monarch II Making the Case (pt three)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bd68wJtTtU

Monarch II Making the Case (pt four)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx2AmMGkj_M

Monarch II Making the Case (pt five) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2H4_E57W2A

Monarch II Making the Case (pt six) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwE50LMqAI

Monarch II Making the Case (pt seven) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JocJVg6RAtw

Monarch II Making the Case (pt eight) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0NeRaDSAZE

Monarch II Making the Case (pt nine) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJE346Ifk94

Monarch II Making the Case (pt ten) In Their Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76x1U-wX7xg

irak
26-09-2007, 03:28 PM
why don't you try orgone devices, they are very powerful way to charge enviroment with positive energy, and can be manufactured at low cost and fairly quickly, they could probably at least reduce the signal with which they are targeting you guys; worth trying!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451

deca
27-09-2007, 11:33 AM
http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/trifield.htm
http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/resources/image/trifield.jpg
Human beings and animals usually emit an electric field which is easily detectable using the Natural EM Meter. In fact, the meter can be used as a motion-activated intruder alarm. It is so sensitive that it can detect the presence of a person through a wall. Though it is not foolproof in this capacity, (sometimes a person will carry no electric charge and thus be "invisible" to the meter), its sensitivity is of interest to researchers in the field of parapsychology. Every type of detectable physical manifestation requires a certain amount of energy. For example, "moving air" requires the expenditure of a small amount of energy to get the air to move initially.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

deca
02-10-2007, 11:51 AM
NASA Plans to Read Minds at Airports
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/news/nasa_brainwaves.htm

http://www.well.com/user/jmalloy/gunterandgwen/resources.html

deca
08-10-2007, 02:37 AM
UK Defence report on strategic trends



http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/94A1F45E-A830-49DB-B319-DF68C28D561D/0/strat_trends_17mar07.pdf







They expect that in 2035 we’ll all be implanted with ICT brain chips.

They’ll be hooked up wirelessly to a computer driven network.

A constant 2-way stream. It could be considered suspicious, if you refuse.

It’ll enable telepathy and beaming of sensory perceptions to the brain

Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) can affect / destroy all ICT chips over a large area.





According to fmr. CIA officers, defence science is about 25 years ahead of all other science.

2035 - 2007 = 28 years = They’re capable now, and probably testing it on us.







Excerpts:





Broadcasts to the Brain

By 2035, an implantable information chip could be developed and wired directly to the

user’s brain. Information and entertainment choices would be accessible through

cognition and might include synthetic sensory perception beamed direct to the user’s

senses. Wider related ICT developments might include the invention of synthetic

telepathy, including mind-to-mind or telepathic dialogue. This type of development would

have obvious military and security, as well as control, legal and ethical, implications.





ICT Growth and Pervasiveness.

Another powerful driver for the rate and range of innovation will be

the continuing increase in the pervasiveness and processing power of ICT.

Wearable and implanted wireless ICT is likely to be accessible to all that

can afford it in the second half of the period, and users will be linked

through sensors and networks that are enabled by computers that are

significantly more capable than at present, possibly by 100bn times

if quantum computing reaches its potential.20





After 2020, nanodevices are likely, such as nanobots.



ICT - By the end of the period it is likely that the majority of the global population will find

it difficult to ‘turn the outside world off’. ICT40 is likely to be so pervasive that people are

permanently connected to a network or two-way data stream with inherent challenges to

civil liberties; being disconnected could be considered suspicious.







Electromagnetic Pulse Use

Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) capabilities will probably become operational during the

period out to 2035. It could be used to destroy all ICT devices over selected areas, while

limiting wider physical and human damage. While military and other high-value networks

may be hardened against this threat, most networks and communities on which societies

depend, will not. The employment of an EMP weapon against a ‘World-City’ (for example,

an international business-service hub) would have significant impact beyond the country

against which it was targeted. It might even reduce political and business confidence in

globalized economic processes to the point that concern about national economic

resilience reverses internationally integrative trends, leading to a world increasingly

characterized by protection, control and isolationism.







Catastrophic Space System Damage

At the most serious level, space systems could be destroyed or disabled by a burst of

solar energy or a natural fluctuation. Similarly, satellites and space platforms could be

destroyed or damaged in a deliberate hostile attack, or by being struck by space-debris,

causing a cascade of collateral damage to other space-based platforms. The damage

could be amplified if an element of the chain explodes and emits an electromagnetic

pulse. The consequences might include catastrophic failures of critical space-enabled

utilities, triggering widespread mass-transport accidents, multiple military and public

service system failures and the collapse of international financial systems.






Doomsday Scenario

Many of the concerns over the development of new technologies lie in their safety,

including the potential for disastrous outcomes, planned and unplanned. For example, it

is argued that nanotechnology could have detrimental impacts on the environment,

genetic modification could spiral out of control and that AI could be superior to that of

humans, but without the restraining effect of human social conditioning. Various

doomsday scenarios arising in relation to these and other areas of development present

the possibility of catastrophic impacts, ultimately including the end of the world, or at least

of humanity.

deca
09-10-2007, 01:51 PM
http://www.au.af.mil/info-ops/ew.htm

c. ES is the subdivision of EW involving actions tasked by, or under direct control of, an operational commander to search for, intercept, identify, and locate or localize sources of intentional and unintentional radiated EM energy for the purpose of immediate threat recognition, targeting, planning, and conduct of future operations.

This just makes what I thought and posted on fedame about the military being able to
detect domestic Mind control and electronic harassment energy!!! .Its a joke they know about it.

whitenight639
09-10-2007, 03:04 PM
deca are you still bieng harrassed by EM weapons?

deca
09-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Yep every minute off the day 24/7 they even mess with me sleep,
cant remember any natural dreams, Only dreams I remember are the ones they
invade.

whitenight639
09-10-2007, 03:15 PM
Yep every minute off the day 24/7 they even mess with me sleep,
cant remember any natural dreams, Only dreams I remember are the ones they
invade.

ave you tried building a farraday cage out of tin foil, ie wall papering a room with tin foil and eathing it?

how far away do you think the people are doing this to you? or is it by satalite?

deca
09-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Tin foil does not seem to do a lot, your whole body has to be protected.Its not only my brain, my body nerves system as well.Also your family and friends think you have lost it too.I have some thermal blankets spread about and earthed,also painted my bedroom with carbon paint(mixed it up myself from powder bought,not sure if I used the right paint on this).I all so have some Silver Bobbinet from here http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp across my window.

looking to buy more stuff but my money is tight, just enough to pay bills and food, so its frustrating.

I think its a mix mobile phone masts and satellites over the electromagnetic spectrum.
who knows,theses travel at almost speed of light plus I think most times its AI scripts working me over,matching my brain patterns and giving negative/distracting feedback.

whitenight639
09-10-2007, 03:35 PM
Tin foil does not seem to do a lot, your whole body has to be protected.Its not only my brain, my body nerves system as well.Also your family and friends think you have lost it too.I have some thermal blankets spread about and earthed,also painted my bedroom with carbon paint(mixed it up myself from powder bought,not sure if I used the right paint on this).I all so have some Silver Bobbinet from here http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp across my window.

looking to buy more stuff but my money is tight, just enough to pay bills and food, so its frustrating.

I think its a mix mobile phone masts and satellites over the electromagnetic spectrum.
who knows,theses travel at almost speed of light plus I think most times its AI scripts working me over,matching my brain patterns and giving negative/distracting feedback.

im pretty sure if you covered the whole room in tin foil and earthed it would stop it completely.

deca
09-10-2007, 03:36 PM
think the size of some of the waves is same size as a dot > . so any whole gap thats same or bigger will let it through!!

deca
09-10-2007, 03:45 PM
http://storesense2.megawebservers.com/stores/h/HS3898/cataloglist.html

I think mylar is a better bet, saving up for some.

another problem How long could I live in a completely sealed room?
also pretty sure that the military use this and found way around shielding, and use it to blast enemy bunkers and buildings.

strider
09-10-2007, 03:50 PM
Hi deca, hope all is well..

Could you please tell me why you think you are being electronically harassed, and what may have cause you to be a target in the first place?

whitenight639
09-10-2007, 04:01 PM
http://storesense2.megawebservers.com/stores/h/HS3898/cataloglist.html

I think mylar is a better bet, saving up for some.

another problem How long could I live in a completely sealed room?
also pretty sure that the military use this and found way around shielding, and use it to blast enemy bunkers and buildings.

it dosnt have to be sealed, only totally covered, the door for example would be covered with a slight overlap or you could screw some aluminium trim on it so when the door is flush in the frame the trim overlaps the tiny gap, if you have a hole in the foil anywhere you can tell where the origin of the scource is, becaus i believe it not to be a satalite and imagine its people using this weapon (i could be wrong) but how much would you love to find out where they are and give them a kicking!!

deca
09-10-2007, 04:06 PM
I have stopped asking myself this, I don`t have a clear answer just many assumptions.I just think I am a guinea pig,that if I tell people I will not be believed ,they did the same in some of the MKultra experiment's.

The perps just twist me up about this and like to try and get me to blame myself
for this, So I try not to focus on this.Also I might end up spreading dis info and
making connections that back up a wrong assumptions.

I moved away from were a lived for a few years then moved back and thats when this started.Think the perps fucked up thinking I was a new to the area
a did not know anyone.

This is part of the mind fuck wondering why you get this and how,I racked my brain out for 2years trying to figure this out,the perps just played into my silly and absurd assumptions.

I don`t think I have an implant. but I am not 100% on this.
I have thought that I might off had an Implant inserted when I was a kid.
As I have been right through all my memories looking for the answer or clues.

deca
09-10-2007, 04:17 PM
See I do think you get it, like now they play mind dumbing white noise(its not white noise as it has other sounds in it)it makes you feel depressed and can`t be bothered doing anything,When you try to make shielding or something interesting they put you off shout at you,give you negative thoughts,make you want to stop and smoke,keep on saying it want work,and when you do get something done they love to rub it in that they can beat it and make out you have wasted your money.The like demoralizingly you.

The thing is you have nothing to strike back at,sick of smashing me own shit up,or shouting out like a mad man.

I have a EMF detector,I have traveled about and they can get me at work.
I work in a large DIY store, we are locked in at night,they can still pick me out
in there.

whitenight639
09-10-2007, 04:23 PM
dont buy the maylar, its an insulator, would be the same as covering your wall in plastic, also its made by Dupont.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mylar



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

deca
09-10-2007, 05:11 PM
http://www.mylarstoreonline.com/

chicken
09-10-2007, 05:18 PM
Deca - Even though I have heard some of this - I still hear new things from you. I am truely sorry that you are going through this crap. I wish I had the switch to turn it off.

I feel very sad sometimes and feel sorry for myself too. If you look at me. I look no different from anyone else. If people knew what the bastards really did and had a taste of it themselves. The planet would take a paradigm shift and believe. My scars are fadeing on the outside - but they really hurt me on the inside. But the bastards will never win - they will not break my spirit - they may kill me though as the technology can do that :(

I think I should stand outside ASDA with my non-lethal weapon and try it out on a few people. People would soon change their minds even the perps.

chicken

chicken
09-10-2007, 05:22 PM
Deca - one day we should meet. Have a good chin wag face to face like. Over a pint or two and laugh like hyeanas!!!

Whitenight639 - you live in or near Shrewsbury. When I ask that question - do you know of any who would do that to someone - the stalking? Did you know that Shrewsbury/Shropshire/Wales is the centre of BNP heartland. Would not suprise me if David Myatt pops his head up now and then. Does Combat 18 - ring a bell? Did you get my last message about Shelton? This is one of the important ports of the fascist movement. Telford gets it bad - I checked out the press.

chicken

deca
09-10-2007, 05:31 PM
I hope so soon.

my ex wife became redundant last month or so ago and left me financially short,She has starting back working again.But i will have to catch up.....just in time for Christmas.I also just before that had a month off on the sick.
hopefully soon I will have some cash to do things with instead off payout all the time.

deca
12-10-2007, 12:31 PM
I caught this on cnn the other night
http://www.biowave.com/tech.html
The result is the formation of a low frequency electric field, which is believed to interrupt transmission of pain impulses by preventing action potential propagation along pain fibers – a similar mechanism to local chemical anesthesia, except without any deleterious side effects. See both diagrams to the right.
http://www.biowave.com/images/dw_knee_diagram.jpg


video cnn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhSgJcd26u0

deca
12-10-2007, 12:53 PM
Stephen Marley "Mind Control"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhEuGIf3Lww

whitenight639
12-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Deca - one day we should meet. Have a good chin wag face to face like. Over a pint or two and laugh like hyeanas!!!

Whitenight639 - you live in or near Shrewsbury. When I ask that question - do you know of any who would do that to someone - the stalking? Did you know that Shrewsbury/Shropshire/Wales is the centre of BNP heartland. Would not suprise me if David Myatt pops his head up now and then. Does Combat 18 - ring a bell? Did you get my last message about Shelton? This is one of the important ports of the fascist movement. Telford gets it bad - I checked out the press.

chicken

im not sure what your question is hun, i cant say that i dont know anyone that s is/ has been a gang stalker, i know alot of people but if i did know someone that participated in it they would never let me know what they got up2. not got a clue about combat 18 do tell me more, yer i got your pm just been mad busy.

chicken
12-10-2007, 05:45 PM
ok will write it out a bit better then. I live near shrewsbury so do you? Shrewsbury has a terror group - almost like hooligans called English Bridge Front. A bit like the National Front - but Shrewsburys version of it.

Combat 18 - terror organisation connected to National Front - which in turn they are connected to BNP. Rascist and very very thug like. Combat 18's leader stabbed someone recently and got put away for life.

Combat 18 (A=1, Adolf H=8 Hitler) - leader lived in Church Stretton - called David Myatt. David Myatt is supposedly part of a Satanic group called the Order of Nine Angles. So county not good on race relations then? Nick Griffin leader of BNP lives in Welshpool

chicken

whitenight639
12-10-2007, 05:55 PM
ok will write it out a bit better then. I live near shrewsbury so do you? Shrewsbury has a terror group - almost like hooligans called English Bridge Front. A bit like the National Front - but Shrewsburys version of it.

Combat 18 - terror organisation connected to National Front - which in turn they are connected to BNP. Rascist and very very thug like. Combat 18's leader stabbed someone recently and got put away for life.

Combat 18 (A=1, Adolf H=8 Hitler) - leader lived in Church Stretton - called David Myatt. David Myatt is supposedly part of a Satanic group called the Order of Nine Angles. So county not good on race relations then? Nick Griffin leader of BNP lives in Welshpool

chicken


nooo the EBF are the english border fighters,
there the hooligans that wait at the train station for the wesh and then run away when they come out, I used to live in a pub in the town centre, they all drink in the rock and fountain, I know a few of them.
post some links to this combat 18

kblood
12-10-2007, 06:07 PM
I have been looking into it a bit Deca. Seems like there are many ways to do what is being done against you, although they are all probably complicated. Yes, mobile masts seems a likely spot for these devices. I just moved and that makes me feel a bit safer. I will be testing wether they are still able to probe me soon.

The reason for the testing on us (maybe not me so much), seems to be because they want to make a more "big brother" kind of society. Maybe keep track of where and who might go outside the normal frequencies of brainwaves. I guess this kind of equipment setup to measure this is something that is setup along with regular wireless equipment, and probably a part of it, that is simply able to attune into lower frequencies than it should.

What I do to figure out wether something is disturbing my thoughts is trying to out if the thoughts I think are my own. Usually quite easy. Then wether there are bussing or humming that shouldent be there. If so, then find someplace where you can see if it is better. If you can just find someplace where you are certain that the signals cannot reach you, then you will have a starting point. I usually just figure that my mind can always be read, but probably isnt, since that would take some seriously boring work. Then there are the usuall mindreading avoidning techniques that you probably already know. Think about more than one thing at a time, make sure that your thoughts are cluttered up. Maybe have your actuall intentions thought out in between other stuff. Maybe switch between doing (thinking about) daily routines and thinking about what to do.

I fear that the main problem is that you know about it. Maybe they would stop if you could ignore them... and although I hate to admit it, medication might make the pain go away. Then you would be able to go along normally, but you then might be deaf to whatever is going on in this network they have setup.

Another thing to do is trying to figure out if it is two way. I am quite certain I once tried having a "scanner" or whatever it can be called targetted at me, so moving my head would make it better. So I placed my head in the "beam" and tried to see if I could get any responses. Sometimes I simply try to communicate with them with my mind, telling them to leave me alone, and find someone else to bother. Sometimes it actually works, but it does require that you know when you are and arent being scanned directly.

It should also be possible to mentally block it. Have you tried doing OBEs? They might help you find a way to do something about it, but learning to do OBEs is very difficult. It mostly is something that happens without trying to make it happen. During an OBE it would be more likely to find out what is going on I think, or maybe find help there from what I have read.

Another thing to watch out for is how much of it is paranoya. I label something paranoya without it being a condition, but when I something assume something that might only be assumed because of my fear. F.ex. a mobile phone or a wireless network can cause headaches, but it is not because it is probing. Therefore this is another thing that needs to be cleared out how much of it is non-invasive waves. At least not intended to be so.

Shielding the rooms sounds like a good idea. I have read about movie theaters might get blocked by getting a coating within their walls to block mobile phone signals. Should be somewhat inexpensive, but then I have not idea what the pricerange is, and compared to what it is "inexpensive".

When I feel something intruding in my head, I simply try to recieve whatever is comming and figure out what it is. I try to do it subtly as well, so others do not think me crasy. People are used to me being distracted most the time anyway :p

You have probably been asked this before, but have you considered moving to somewhere else? And have you tried going on vacation far away to see what the difference is?

kblood
12-10-2007, 06:22 PM
I have stopped asking myself this, I don`t have a clear answer just many assumptions.I just think I am a guinea pig,that if I tell people I will not be believed ,they did the same in some of the MKultra experiment's.

The perps just twist me up about this and like to try and get me to blame myself
for this, So I try not to focus on this.Also I might end up spreading dis info and
making connections that back up a wrong assumptions.

I moved away from were a lived for a few years then moved back and thats when this started.Think the perps fucked up thinking I was a new to the area
a did not know anyone.

This is part of the mind fuck wondering why you get this and how,I racked my brain out for 2years trying to figure this out,the perps just played into my silly and absurd assumptions.

I don`t think I have an implant. but I am not 100% on this.
I have thought that I might off had an Implant inserted when I was a kid.
As I have been right through all my memories looking for the answer or clues.

I think I have become somewhat sure that it is not an implant. Still... scramble your thoughts, it might help. Also medication might make you a useless guinepig. I really think medication is a possible solution. If your mind is numbed down for a while, they should not have as much to work with, but I cannot be certain. I have tested wether I have any implants, and it seems I havent.

I believe that it is the lower back part of our brain that contains our "thoughts", the inner voice in our heads. These thoughts we have seems to have a frequency of their own. I have only been able to prove that the technology exists, but I havent been able to find out where exactly they are placing the mindreading equipment, although I heard about it being true that special equipment does get setup. As far as I now the equipment simply recieves the signals from our brain, then someplaces these signals gets filtered, untill it is tuned in on your personal brainwaves. That is my guess anyway. Must be alot of clutter involved, and therefore the more clutter you have in your head, made by you, the less they can use your thoughts for. Try to leave them clueless about what you are doing.

The best way to fight off this is either medication or meditation I think. Maybe OBEs. You need to be able to control your body enough to fight back their signals, but medication is probably the best shortterm solution. I do not like medication, and avoid it at all times when possible, but if I really need sleep, I do use sleeping pills. No dreams when using sleeping pills usually, so probably nothing there for them to play with either. After finding a way to fight them off, it is just about doing the waiting game I think. They must find other subjects sooner or later.

Remember, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger... still I wish you did not have to go through this :(

chicken
12-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Whitenight639
nooo the EBF are the english border fighters,
there the hooligans that wait at the train station for the wesh and then run away when they come out, I used to live in a pub in the town centre, they all drink in the rock and fountain, I know a few of them.
post some links to this combat 18

Well I would love to believe that I would really - you see its been in the papers what they have been up to. Another thing of course you don't brand them all with the same brush. I also looked on a few forums and found loads of interesting comments about these guys. I only point out what I have read ok.

Combat 18 - ok
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/323366.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_18

chicken
12-10-2007, 09:11 PM
KBlood - I have some questions for you

I have tested wether I have any implants, and it seems I havent.

How did you do this please explain - you must be the first to do this successfully? What did you use?

believe that it is the lower back part of our brain that contains our "thoughts", the inner voice in our heads. These thoughts we have seems to have a frequency of their own. I have only been able to prove that the technology exists, but I havent been able to find out where exactly they are placing the mindreading equipment, although I heard about it being true that special equipment does get setup. As far as I now the equipment simply recieves the signals from our brain, then someplaces these signals gets filtered, untill it is tuned in on your personal brainwaves. That is my guess anyway. Must be alot of clutter involved, and therefore the more clutter you have in your head, made by you, the less they can use your thoughts for. Try to leave them clueless about what you are doing.

How do you know that it is the lower part of our brain then - please explain. All TI's say the sound comes from the back of their head. Yes we know the technology exists. To get a patent it must do - but it does not mean it works though. I think it is an implant - remotely controlled from a distance

Are you a target - kblood?

What are OBE'S? - MEDICATION SCRAMBLES YOUR BRAIN - IT IS NOW COMING OUT THE BADNESS OF THESE PILLS

No - other subjects until you are either dead or useless as a target. The statistics show this when you are a TI. One might be lucky. We have discovered that TI's do not last for long. Dates mean a lot. We have had an explosion since 2000 across the world

chicken
12-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I discovered this group today SGR - they are based in the UK - I rang them and they took off this years agenda - electromagnetic weapons - non-lethal weapons.

http://www.sgr.org.uk/

Well at least it was recognised. Fantastic I thought that is a start

Here is a bit about them

A Brief History of SGR

Scientists for Global Responsibility (SGR) is a UK-based organisation which was formed in 1992 from the merger of Scientists Against Nuclear Arms (SANA), Electronics and Computing for Peace (ECP) and Psychologists for Peace (PfP). These organisations had originally been set up to campaign to reduce the widespread use of science and technology for military purposes: in particular, they sought elimination of weapons of mass destruction.
However, with the break-up of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, together with the growing realisation of the threat of climate change, the organisations decided to merge and widen their focus. A general concern about the misuse of science and technology in threatening human life and the wider environment became the organisation's central aim.

They had about us before - some American TI's had already paved the way before me. I have had some communication to this effect. Our subtle enquiries are taking note in peoples heads

I contacted CND - they suggested these guys and they also suggested a peace campaigner

Helen Caldicott - Peace campaigner. Interested in what happened to Greenham women. Electromagnetic zapping. I have written to her

http://www.helencaldicott.com/

and a group called

MEDACT - contacted them - also will write to these too

REGARDS

CHICKEN

kblood
12-10-2007, 10:50 PM
KBlood - I have some questions for you
How did you do this please explain - you must be the first to do this successfully? What did you use?

I have had my head scanned with the X-ray scanner they use in security gates where they scan for metals. I had them scan my head and print out a scan from front and from the side.

Also I have sapped my neck with a electrocuter (those zap thingies some keep in their bags).

And finally EMP.

Other than this, I usually just try to locate where in my body there is any activity there shouldnt be. Can I relax myself completely?... other meditation techniques to see if there is anything unnatural going on. I do not believe they have to implant a biological one. I am now quite certain that they simply can read it from low frequencies.


How do you know that it is the lower part of our brain then - please explain. All TI's say the sound comes from the back of their head. Yes we know the technology exists. To get a patent it must do - but it does not mean it works though. I think it is an implant - remotely controlled from a distance


About this being in the lower back part of our brain is due to it being our "reptillian" part of our brain I think. I found something about that somewhere else in the forum. It can also be felt. I once got scanned in a CAT scan or CT scan, do not remember which one. But with it it was possible to locate what parts of the brain was used for telepathy and telekinesis I think. Not sure if they got it pinned down, I havent seen the result of the test.


Are you a target - kblood?

More or less. Only observed though, but not done experiments on. I might have been part of project bluebeam. Seems I do not really need much medical attention. If I get wounded to bad, it heals.
Sometimes I have managed to use telepathy quite clearly with some persons, and sometimes I get responses on thought uf questions. I have also tested it in WoW. I have managed to chat with someone in the guild chat, then when a chat is hectic, one of those I am chatting with sometimes answers me before I finish typing the question. I later then tested it by pretending to press enter while thinking of the sentence I was writing, and again he could answer before the question got into the chat.


What are OBE'S? - MEDICATION SCRAMBLES YOUR BRAIN - IT IS NOW COMING OUT THE BADNESS OF THESE PILLS

OBE = Out of body experience. Good for learning to access more of your brain, and exploring more senses than our first 5 senses. Get to know what we can do in our mind alone.

Yes, medication can scramble our brain, not good for us, but still makes it harder to scan as I see it. Also it makes it easier to continue everyday life, and not letting them ruin it.


No - other subjects until you are either dead or useless as a target. The statistics show this when you are a TI. One might be lucky. We have discovered that TI's do not last for long. Dates mean a lot. We have had an explosion since 2000 across the world


Well, I wouldnt know. I am not a target in the same way as you are. I live in Denmark, but as far as I know, the mindcontrol/reading sensors might just get installed along with regular mobile towers for mobile phones. Not completely sure though. Seems you have logged more into this than me.

What would be interesting to find out is who makes this equipment, why they are put up, and how what is used to recieve their signals... Took me some time to dig out of my memory about this stuff. Anything too much out of the ordinary, I usually supress in my memory to make life easier to live, which seems to be a basic reflex in all of us.

kblood
12-10-2007, 11:34 PM
I will repost this link, because it seems to validate how far Cyberkinetics might have gotten:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/brain.html?pg=4&topic=brain&topic_set=

Cyberkinetics are working on a MindGate project, about reading the mind, and using what is read to control electronic equipment. These things require chips in the brain, but at some point I would think they will then move closer and closer to "reverse engineering" a brain. Making a not biological brain. As far as I know, that might have already happened. Making an AI that can learn by itself. With a thing like that running, with the right input, it can make scientific advances a whole lot faster than we are used to. And we are used to our scientific advances comes exponentially...

http://www.cyberkinetics.co.uk/Origin_of_Cyberkinetics.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/358822.stm (Neuron computer?)

I have also seen something about pigeons being chipped and used for spying. I think it was in Asia it was done somehow... a pigeon or pigeons had a chip plugged into them so they could be controlled, and send visual data. That was how I understood it anyway. Not sure if I can find it again.

kha zarr
13-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Forgive me if anyones mentioned this before, the product is expensive, Im curious if anyone else has tried it, as a sort of what looks like radionic resistance method.

The T-1 Takyon capsule and R-A-D.

http://www.trufax.org/takyon/welcome.html

I'm only recently opening myself up to this area of whats happening, mind you Ive certainly read about it, and it seems pretty real indeed. I'm thankful thus far at least to my knowledge, that I'm not affected. If I am, sometimes I wonder, but I believe its minimal.

Ive considered buying the product from the link above, except I have heard no reviews on it. A cheap and effective solution, of course, would be best. The product above is somewhere in the vicinity of 100 dollars. Then again, governments spend millions or more on alleged nonlethal weapons. Still, I am curious to find out if it works.

For example, does tin foil, even though used as a way to ridicule, actually work at all? what other low tech methods actually work?

kblood
13-10-2007, 10:38 AM
The word takyon rings a bell. I think I heard someone mention this while I was trying to figure out how they were reading my mind. The way I have pictured it in my head is that someone might be able to hear "thoughts" picked up through speakers maybe. As I see it, brainwaves can possibly be converted into normal sound frequencies... anyone read about everything having sound? It is like the old C64, you take a audio tape, and you can record a game unto it from a C64. It can still be played as audio but it comes out as... bad techno :p I think the same can be done to any kind of wave that can be picked up and analysed.

From what I have found out, which is one of the easiest ways I have found to annoy someone actually "listening" to my thoughts, is clutter up the thoughts, and then think very clearly on having a loud voice in my head. Im am quite certain that it has worked at least once.

I do believe they have to "tune" the equipment in on individuals to make it work. Probably and hopefully takes time to decode thought patterns or brainwaves or whatever it is.

kblood
13-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Forgive me if anyones mentioned this before, the product is expensive, Im curious if anyone else has tried it, as a sort of what looks like radionic resistance method.

The T-1 Takyon capsule and R-A-D.

http://www.trufax.org/takyon/welcome.html

I'm only recently opening myself up to this area of whats happening, mind you Ive certainly read about it, and it seems pretty real indeed. I'm thankful thus far at least to my knowledge, that I'm not affected. If I am, sometimes I wonder, but I believe its minimal.

Ive considered buying the product from the link above, except I have heard no reviews on it. A cheap and effective solution, of course, would be best. The product above is somewhere in the vicinity of 100 dollars. Then again, governments spend millions or more on alleged nonlethal weapons. Still, I am curious to find out if it works.

For example, does tin foil, even though used as a way to ridicule, actually work at all? what other low tech methods actually work?

I would advise against this. It might be some other kind of takyon device that actually recieves brainwaves. What troubles me about this device is, what is the guarantee of it not affecting our mind as we wear a takyon capsule? 100% doesnt sound like much though, and then you might become able to feel what these low frequencies feels like in the head.

The problem is when focusing on these frequencies though. When you know they are there, they are difficult to ignore. That is the best solution I can find though, because these (takyon?) waves are probably emitted in most larger cities.

My guess is that I would not be able to use telepathy at all with such a takyon capsule on me. I read about in a previous tech article in this thread that we have "normal" brain wave frequencies, and lower brain wave frequencies. My guess is that the normal range of brain wave frequencies is our normal 5 senses (feeling, smelling, seeing, hearing and tasting?), and the lower ones could then be our thoughts which can turn out as telekineses or telepathy I think.

chicken
13-10-2007, 12:02 PM
I do believe they have to "tune" the equipment in on individuals to make it work. Probably and hopefully takes time to decode thought patterns or brainwaves or whatever it is.

That statement could be a possibility. I personally was put out by a woman who I was seeing. I don't know how she did it? Machinery, Eriksonian techniques, drugs - I don't remember going, but waking up I obviously remember.

From my research - machinery could be a Lide machine - can put you to sleep, if I had a chip could be electronic anasthesia. I did have some blood tests before.

So your statement might apply to me here. She might have been working out my hearing range. I rang up a company and age and sonic sounds have a match regarding this. I hear music - no-one else can. I could have been chipped and not realised it. Of course I was not looking for that then.

I know this is going to sound mad and stupid well - it is true. I was asked by a doctor I saw - out of the blue, an odd question which was not part of the consultation in as much the sequence and content did not fit. I had never met him before.

He asked me if I could feel my legs - so as I said yes, they heated up. Yes - this did happen. Then about five months later I discovered a book about torture techniques. This book was written in 1961-an American publication, Two blokes Bidderman and Zimmerman wrote about "Human Behaviour" and successful techniques to employ. This technique is known as The Magic Room Technique. Instead of using legs - they used hands instead.

I banged on about this months - to one of my parents. I discovered the book and then told her and she actually believes my account.

Also I have been threatened not to go to the "Press" and that is another reason why she believes all this stupidness as she was a witness to this conversation

chicken

chicken
13-10-2007, 12:15 PM
I came across this word "Transhuman" and did some research on it to see how this fitted to cybernetics.

I live in Darwin country and this seems to best "fit" my situation.

I went to see a councellor and she suggested the coach. Ok - thats just for the knowledge bit.

They both possibly felt that I was an "unfit" person to have around. I might have been a threat to the local gene pool? Either way from my extensive research I know that e-harassment is a crime. Eugenics was a crime too

State sponsored "Eugenics" with countries USA, Canada, Austrailia, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Switzerland.

In USA - from 1907 - 1963, 64,000 people were killed - when the programme officially stopped due to the infringement of civil liberties.

The Nazi's did their bit in WW2. Hitler just took ideas and put them into practice. Simple and very effective as we have seen.

Science has caught up with speculation. Yesterdays science fiction is turning into todays science fact. I see this as a mid term stage in where we are at.

Aldous Huxley brother Julian Huxley coined the word "Transhuman" He saw what with the continued technological innovation having an impact on humanity that "Moores Law" - a computer power doubles every 18 months . The onset and likely hood of self improving Artificial Intelligence explosions was likely to happen. It is unbelievable to think that Cybernetics was invented in 1942 in New York - by people associated with the Tavistock Institute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

The intelligence of man may well be left behind?

Has the human mind been transferred to computer and back to man to do what we experience. The e-harassment. In some circles they call it EEG cloning. So a scan of the human brain must have been deconstructed, and the reconstruction and an indepth understanding of the neural network recreated purely in a computer. The emulation of the structure and workings - exist as software and we are the hardware.

So we can be uploaded to - in real time which is called esoteric technology (fits with Hitler ideology)

The human condition can be radically transformed. Like gene engineering, electronic drugs, memory, concentration, mood etc etc..........

Ok - I think "they" whoever they are. Have discovered all of this and it was possibly perfected during the MKUltra years - or maybe it is still being perfected. Ruining peoples lives they can get hold of - that fit and can be used to hide behind. I was told this is about "Power and Money"

Hiding behind - take one normal person who needs a bit of a emotional boost - goes to councellor, she a year later out of the blue suggests coach. Strange eh?!!

Technologies are being released into the media, abstracts are written. In a few decades this will be old science? To be honest? I think they have worked it out already and as it matures even further creating profound transformations in the human condition.

Where is this leading then?

chicken

deca
13-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Look lets get this straight ok.
Now I am on about the technology not the people on the ground who may directly or indirectly involved.

Its not a little black box a couple of yards away from you or some mobile team in a van full of high tech tricks that fallows you around 24/7.

Its a network that covers the whole of the uk/Europe/US/Canadian probably most of the planet.
Are there similar networks, yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

There is also mobile phone mast going up all the time, Haarp and other arrays
There is all the spy satellites. They all use the electromagnetic spectrum.

From what the scientist have said and researched these platforms could be used ok.

Also look at the so called future plans of the mod,darpa they talk about and want a total awareness network and all so believe there will be a hive mind in the future.

Remember we will all have different experiences and act differently when we
discover that this technology is affecting us.It is logical and natural to look at
or own experience and look for the source around us making assumptions up based on that and what we have read and heard form other sources and TI`s.
The people are not going to admit they have this. They only admitted to echelon in 2000 for fuck sake.

They did implant people in the 60`s,70`s,80`s. if you were unlucky in the wrong place and the wrong time and walked into some clinic ended up be drugged and implanted, also probably some so called alien abductions were probably used as cover for this sort of covert operation.

They have hacked the mind and the nerves system since then, and have the technology and network to deploy this.

Stop falling for the dis info and wild assumptions, Look at the history,the research, fallow the technology. Then see the ideology that is fueling this advancement and who would what this and the ability to achevie it.

chicken
13-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Dear Deca :)

I have not rattled your cage surely. Its ok - no dividing and conquering!! :D

Look lets get this straight ok.
Now I am on about the technology not the people on the ground who may directly or indirectly involved.

I am on about both - Don't forget I have met my perps - three times, plus the persons who did this. I told you. The refs have been made to my situation - I am not going to go into it again here - OK

well - how about one. Change your story or else? clear that one isn't it

How can you not refer to your situation. I aint going to remove my history. Its entwined with the world history now. I am a small cog contributing to the rest.

Networks - they are a heirarchy. Local to National level to different countries. Yeah I get the idea. In a local network - there is even a heirarchy. So someone is pulling someone elses strings including mine. This includes the perps.

yep - get Echelon

There is also mobile phone mast going up all the time, Haarp and other arrays
There is all the spy satellites. They all use the electromagnetic spectrum.

Yep - well read on that

From what the scientist have said and researched these platforms could be used ok.


yep - read all those that are posted - found my own. In amongst the words of articles there will be some disinfo and misinfo too.

The people are not going to admit they have this. They only admitted to echelon in 2000 for fuck sake.

I am not being funny. Don't get cross!!! Yep - I know this OK

They did implant people in the 60`s,70`s,80`s. if you were unlucky in the wrong place and the wrong time and walked into some clinic ended up be drugged and implanted,

I was unlucky - yes - I paid for the privelidge as it was pointed out to me. Anyway as I have said to you - I do NOT relay nonsense. Although it is nonsense to the mainstream hearer. It happened - whether I like it or not they will make my demise look natural and bump I will either kick the bucket or I will live on the streets? Your guess is as good as mine.

They have hacked the mind and the nerves system since then, and have the technology and network to deploy this.

Stop falling for the dis info and wild assumptions, Look at the history,the research, fallow the technology. Then see the ideology that is fueling this advancement and who would what this and the ability to achevie it.

yes - hacked the mind - get that - no problem

OH-MY!!! disinfo? - have you thought of people who actually do read other peoples works. Look at the history? I have where do you think this stuff is coming from Deca. It aint coming from the future is it? Once a news article is published its called history. I am not being picky here. Can you work it out Einstein!

"ideology" - listen to people on the forums - not a Nazi repeat straight down the line version. No neo-Nazi - yes!. A new version of it . Yes I get all that - no point in just repeating history exactly the same as it was done before. This time its very very covert. I bet all those who were gassed initially in Poland before Hitler even thought about bumping off people in his grand scheme. That was covert - yeah

The mental patient probably thought oh I am in for a shower then they were bumped off that way - gassed. They did not see it coming. Did you see your situation coming. I bet you did not?

When I sat in front of that person. I did not see my situation coming - I now see she told me snippets. Like "blindspots" - what the hell has that got to with coaching? It was out of context. I did go home and go - like that don't make sense?

Wild assumptions - feck that!! I am extremely well read. I can't get my head round that statement in the last quote. Are you making it up? I've got a good education. A feckin post graduate. I am not thick.

I was "picked" - after I went to see a councellor. I am now a so called mental patient - well put it this way I was emotional not sick in the head as I am now percieved. She after a year suggested the coach. Odd - Even "normal" people think thats odd - even the police do.

Technology - well - I suggest you read what EEG feedback is - its the "voices in your head" being fed to you. You have conversations with your perps they respond in real time. I am telling you that to understand it you have to understand the mechanics and apply it.

You mention - Artificial Intelligence. This is part of the cybernetics banner. It is not seperate. "Transhuman" means transforming humans - what do you think the technology is there for. We are heading for possibly a post transhuman era - who knows? I suggest it. Artificial Intelligence taking a big part of who we are. Are we fully human?

yeah - get all the surveillance stuff - I am a living example of it. I have so many coincidences - it is too strange for words

How about this one. I told me mum - I was now considered to a little bit of an expert as having read as much as I could. This was Thursday morning.

Outside my house I have had a van parked for a couple days with a sign that says "The New Expert" well there you go another stalking example. I looked it up this company - they don't exist. Thats one of the crap situations I have to put up with on a daily basis. Is it my imagination. Ummm - let me think - NO!!

chicken

deca
13-10-2007, 05:29 PM
I am not knocking you, Sometimes you take things personal, I was making an general statement.Try to look at the problem from their angle, Not form how it connects to you and how you have ended up in it.You have researched it well but stop trying to reference it back to you and find at why it is on you.Remember if you were not getting messed with then somebody else would be.

chicken
13-10-2007, 06:03 PM
Dear Deca

Well Ok you are not knocking me then

Too right - I want to get on with my life. I don't deserve this. I was just about to make ripples in my field. My work in books, courses and stuff. Was I stressed no - just fed up with teaching full-time.

Well what am I going to referance it to then? All our situations are different. This aint MKultra - where we are chained to beds. This is the 21st century version. I am a lab rat - but not in the conventional sense. I am not fed or clothed by anyone else. I do that - this is a movement on isn't it. See how the experimentees get on in the community. I was even sent lab rat pictures and pictures of people behind bars. The bastards spent a year monitoring me - this is organised.

We would be alright if one was not stalked as well. Well - lets go for total neutalisation then. Because this is what it means. I have had the unfortunate situation where I have tried to top myself. Well my friends and family still are scratching their heads - they don't get it do they. Well they do now - cos it adds up don't it. If I had not done my research I would not be able to recount my experiences plus the research and tell them and very quickly they took the paradigm shift and saw the set up.

They have instructions after my demise - very clear ones

Murder this is what this is - if you don't understand this then you need to do more reading. "Look within" - the technology is about altering your behaviour. Implant - not 100% sure on that - neither are you. My thoughts I presume are mine - well when I tried to do myself in - they were not my own. Where did they come from? I can tell you this too - that use of outcome and terminology relates directly to Monarch programming.

How do I know this - read a range of research articles on Monarch - not one a range.

I spoke to the cult help group again last week. Her first words to me where. You worked it out yet? I was like umm - why the question? Strange one to ask. It is not just my assumption that the group are in on it if you like. You wanna hear what they told me - it took them an hour to tell me - whilst I wrote it down. Did I have a witness - yes - so another reason why many believe. Simple really.

Well thats a nice thought Deca - well that makes me feel a whole lot better. If it were not me it would be someone else. Ok - I wanna be selfish - I want my life back - thats simple too. Good thing I don't have kids eh!! I look at this in simple terms

1) Someone wants me dead - I know too much and have a big gate. Why phone me up and threaten me with don't go to the press because.........
2) Power and Money - this is what this is about. We all have our own interpretations. Covers all possible angles on that, corruption, extortion, drugs etc. I am either in the beginning middle or end
3) If not dead - discreditation big time - possible scenarios
a - jail - set up
b - incarceration in a mental unit - with a chemical labotomy
c - a and b together
d - homelessness
e - Perp training eventually - dog on a string - pain + pavlovian training
f - have a forgotten one. Maybe all?

Another thing too this relates to Monarch too - so I make referances. I need to work it out for me and my family - they wanna know why me

Indirectly again the viewer looking into these posts might find it hard to get their head around that. I see that they possibly sound and read odd. Nobody can have that kind of influence over someone else?

Oh - yes they can. I can tell you this is real - we are not in the land of "Oz"

chicken

deca
13-10-2007, 06:51 PM
no it not "why me" its who the fuck is making mind controling & electronic harrasment technology and why are they beaming it on to civilians.
And how can we make people aware of this and stop it.


sorry i don`t me to be hard on you.
the "why me" is a trap even if you can answer it, You still have to stop the people doing it

lets look at it another way, did people wounder why there house was bomb in london with V2 rockets,why was there house hit not there naubours, was it there fault there house was hit.Did people need to understand that before knowing it was wrong?

chicken
13-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Deca - I believe this is character building. In as much as I have said I was a scaredy cat before. but I am certainly not saying this is great because it is ALL shit, all of it. Am I soft - no - I understand all you say. I see its about both. Why me and who is doing it? The context counts too. The two together create the context.

So it could have been random. Possibly - but no cause I was asked to participate a year after. I was asked what terrible things I had in my life as a list. The coach started with you can't have too many knocks. No it was not random. It all makes perfect sense.

I also had the coach outline my negatives with the comment "thats perfect" "you cannot make mistakes". That is when I knew I needed to run like hell. This was after she put me out. Too late then.

I hope someone else reads all this and realises before its too late. They let me know I know. I let them know I know they know. I am now for it. I am then given a taste of their medicine. I read somewhere once that if you attack the enemy - they attack you - the difference is -is that one attacks oneself in the context of the info. Oh my lord another higher consciousness moment. Oh shit!!

I was sent two e-mails one was about the concept of power, the other was about money. Oh lord. I see the light........I am not making that up either. I shall pass that on to my mother - she is the holder of all my info


chicken

deca
13-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Also if you can find out "why me" could you not also avoided it?
You will end up blaming yourself thinking that maybe you could off avoided it or blaming people who may or may not be involved.
But what you have got to try to avoid is adding to the confusion and disbelieve thats all ready there about TI`s.

I think I already said that my doctor with the mental health told me that he might believe in the technology but could not believe if it existed it would be used on me.

my answers was you not suppose to believe that it is.
and said that they used the same technique under mkultra.

I have about 10 assumptions that I personally think why I have been targeted
and each one makes perfect sense to me.

This is a problem that we always feel disbelieved and some how have to justifywhy we are getting abused.

chicken
13-10-2007, 07:43 PM
Deca - yep get all that. Problem is I know why I was hit. I can see it clearly.

Anyway there goes another thing solved

chicken