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mauviene
14-04-2009, 10:02 PM
That everything we get in the public sphere (aka..all books..internet articles, tv shows websites ect..) are decoys of knowledge?:eek:

branjo
14-04-2009, 11:35 PM
No.

jojo
14-04-2009, 11:36 PM
No.

lol, what he said.:D

hunter77
14-04-2009, 11:37 PM
lol, what he said.:D

lol, what she said(no):D

bornagain
16-04-2009, 12:15 AM
That everything we get in the public sphere (aka..all books..internet articles, tv shows websites ect..) are decoys of knowledge?:eek:

Yes, I do but than again I am quite paranoid. :(;):p:D:)
interesting question though I was going to write a thread aabout something of this nature but I cannot seem to construct my words today properly.



~Born Again

kingmonkey
16-04-2009, 01:10 AM
The only thing popular culture is guilty of - be it t.v, net, books, music, whatever - is being watered down, banal bullshit that treats you like a fucking moron. That in my book is a conspiracy.

verndewd
16-04-2009, 03:40 AM
I get a distinct impression when reading some things that its "forged" for a purpose. It makes me very very skeptical and requires countless hours of backtracking and finding indie sources.

disorder2k8
16-04-2009, 04:03 AM
it is only forged for your personal awakening which is different for everyone, and you only read it, because fate has placed it into your path or you were drawn to it.

Ive stopped counting how many times I thought I was missing out on something, or that I had put a task aside only to discover something important because I had started reading instead

ex_anser_ovo
16-04-2009, 06:21 AM
For years I've known how Garfield comics were cleverly designed to mislead us away from teh truth.
Once I saw the version with Garfield taken out, it all started to make sense.

Jon Arbuckle is our saviour. :eek:
Oh yes. Yes indeed. Quite true. Yup.

bornagain
16-04-2009, 08:39 PM
For years I've known how Garfield comics were cleverly designed to mislead us away from teh truth.
Once I saw the version with Garfield taken out, it all started to make sense.

Jon Arbuckle is our saviour. :eek:
Oh yes. Yes indeed. Quite true. Yup.

I used to love garfield cartoons he was the best cat ever. :eek:




~Born Again

tracker
16-04-2009, 08:41 PM
That everything we get in the public sphere (aka..all books..internet articles, tv shows websites ect..) are decoys of knowledge?:eek:

MOSTLY ! YEP , BUT THERE ARE SOME ( SOME ) GOOD STUFF OUT THERE .:cool:

normaltime
16-04-2009, 09:20 PM
That everything we get in the public sphere (aka..all books..internet articles, tv shows websites ect..) are decoys of knowledge?:eek:

You mean indoctrine, I agree to a certain extent but not all knowledge is a decoy.

But yes to being brainwashed prior to my awakening.

branjo
16-04-2009, 09:33 PM
I suppose if by "public sphere" you mean "mainstream" then there is a hefty amount of crap out there not fit to wrap fish n chips in.

But the mainstream is but a fragment of literature, it consists of a few basic mindsets, like wanting, needing, dividing or condemning.

Case in point, "The news", always starts with condemning something then a dividing stance for the viewer to feel like they are in the right, then what you need to do and finally throw some sort of advice on what you should want if your a "normal" person, like a few well placed McDonald's commercials...lol.

But being outside of that TV bubble opens up not only a new form of information but a variety of mindsets to sample. I don't think there are many of us that thought like we did 10 years ago, even though we were still adults back then. So a book you read in school will read differently when the years pass, this is because either you are free from public thinking, or you are more locked into public thinking.

Public thinking, ie bills, holidays, cars, toys for the kids, the educational ego and more of the same crap we now know to be "crap". We may still understand the reasons for using these things but we are slowly realizing that they do not define us as they once did.

After a while even recognizing the manipulation in things like advertising gives me a chuckle, when I see war images on the screens while I pass a TV store or equivalent I don't say "omg that's terrible" I just smile because those images serve no purpose in stopping said war, they just fuel the need for it. I didn't stop caring about people I just stopped feeling guilty for not being able to do anything anyway.

I don't feel bad for looking at the children in Africa starving anymore because the guilt I used to feel still didn't do any good, I know that handing a 100 dollar bill to a charity of this sort doesn't get to where its supposed to go, if anything at all goes there. Instead I just say to myself that when the moment of death reaches these people they will all be grinning at the futility of the suffering in life because life is suffering, get over it, sounds harsh, yes, but it still doesn't mean I wouldn't help if I was there because I would, gladly, but i'm not going to jump on a plane and leave my own family so why should I be left with a sense of guilt.

So now I choose what I want to read and I choose how I interpret it, I could read the news paper full of horror stories and enjoy myself spotting the BS stories that serve no purpose, like "man falls from skyscraper window and dies", am I suppose to care about that, he is gone, had I read "Man is going to jump of a building around the corner from where you bought this paper and just needs someone to talk to or he will jump" better believe I would haul ass around the corner and say something to him, maybe like "Do not jump on the red car, that's mine and I haven't finished paying for it", lol just kidding I wouldn't do that, or would I? :D

Just realize that not one single person on this planet can teach you something you don't already know at some level, without exception. After all what is a good schooling but wordplay and memory recollection. Does that make you smarter? does it make you more aware of your environment, no a "good education", makes you constantly live in the future, wanting, needing, convincing yourself that you must go out and get things. If you think you need anything to survive then your not surviving right now, so you must be already dead.

In essence, "fear" and every emotional aspect of it are the "decoys of knowledge". The fearful person cannot learn anything the way it was intended. Fear is everywhere around you but if you don't let yourself live in the land of "What if this happens" or "because this happened", then fear plays no part in your life. Then no matter what you read or see can affect you in the negative sense. You can make up your own mind without any consequences, therefore you really can be "free".

ex_anser_ovo
17-04-2009, 06:45 AM
A bunch of men would stand within a crowd on the corner, and then look into the sky.
One of them even pointed upwards for added effect.

Everyone who walked by, saw all those references to something being in the sky.
Those who looked up were focused on what the group of men were referencing, even though the rest of the crowd were not.

That's when one of the men in the group picked the poor sap's pockets.

What is funny is that nobody was surprised that there was nothing special up in the sky after they had looked up. They must have quickly realized, after the fact, that whatever it was, it was of no importance, considering the rest of the crowd wasn't looking up and pointing. So they continue on, oblivious that they were now lighter in money.

Human nature can't catch the trick.