A Little Question...

[kerksal]

Why are such things allowed to be published: 1984 book, Icke's books, The Matrix movies, Alice in Wonderland, creatures in movies that accuractely depict the Chitauri as Credo Mutwa says, conspiracy websites and books... you get the idea.

I've thought a bit about it, and I think one of these must be the reason:

a) There is no conspiracy, which is why these publications have not been stopped.

b) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power don't have the power to restrict every single published item. Or they don't know of such things like 1984 until it's already well-known to the public and they can't take it away.

c) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power are letting us have these thought-provoking publications for their own secret reasons and agenda (eg. to ridicule, or to soften us up).

d) There is a conspiracy, but those that create those publications are enlightened and as such have power over the conspiracy and cannot be harmed or stopped by the conspiracy.

e) There is a conspiracy, and the ones with the power allow us to know of it because it doesn't matter that we know of it, we cannot do anything to stop it.

f) Something else...

So why are those things allowed to be published and known throughout the world (especially 1984 and The Matrix)?

Also, I didn't know which forum to place this thread, thought this one suited the most.

Thanks

[i_am]

Why are such things allowed to be published: 1984 book, Icke's books, The Matrix movies, Alice in Wonderland, creatures in movies that accuractely depict the Chitauri as Credo Mutwa says, conspiracy websites and books... you get the idea.

I've thought a bit about it, and I think one of these must be the reason:

a) There is no conspiracy, which is why these publications have not been stopped.

b) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power don't have the power to restrict every single published item. Or they don't know of such things like 1984 until it's already well-known to the public and they can't take it away.

c) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power are letting us have these thought-provoking publications for their own secret reasons and agenda (eg. to ridicule, or to soften us up).

d) There is a conspiracy, but those that create those publications are enlightened and as such have power over the conspiracy and cannot be harmed or stopped by the conspiracy.

e) There is a conspiracy, and the ones with the power allow us to know of it because it doesn't matter that we know of it, we cannot do anything to stop it.

f) Something else...

So why are those things allowed to be published and known throughout the world (especially 1984 and The Matrix)?

Also, I didn't know which forum to place this thread, thought this one suited the most.

Thanks

I think (e) But would add 'they are arrogant enough to think' we cannot do anything to stop it. ;)

Although there are nearly 7000 of us on this forum alone, we are very much in the minority. Most people who read/watch these things just think they are a way out fantasy and a good story. Hopefully the 100th monkey syndrome will kick in (and I have to believe that it has started) and WE will be in the majority and then we will have real power.

[kerksal]

But wouldn't such things be a nuisance to them? At the least it's inconvenient... It doesn't make sense, not that the other possibilities do.

[montag]

But wouldn't such things be a nuisance to them? At the least it's inconvenient... It doesn't make sense, not that the other possibilities do.
The human race is a nuisance and inconvenient to them, instead of banning books which as a result draws more attention they flood the conspiracy world with disinformation to effect the credibility of the real information thus creating the perception of 'conspiracy nuts'..

[kerksal]

No need to ban books, just stop them from being published in the first place via control of the publishing companies and etc.. Or making their author have an 'innocent accident'.

[infinitely free]

No need to ban books, just stop them from being published in the first place via control of the publishing companies and etc.. Or making their author have an 'innocent accident'.

Interesting point!
Anyone?

[celtic isis]

Why are such things allowed to be published: 1984 book, Icke's books, The Matrix movies, Alice in Wonderland, creatures in movies that accuractely depict the Chitauri as Credo Mutwa says, conspiracy websites and books... you get the idea.

I've thought a bit about it, and I think one of these must be the reason:

a) There is no conspiracy, which is why these publications have not been stopped.

b) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power don't have the power to restrict every single published item. Or they don't know of such things like 1984 until it's already well-known to the public and they can't take it away.

c) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power are letting us have these thought-provoking publications for their own secret reasons and agenda (eg. to ridicule, or to soften us up).

d) There is a conspiracy, but those that create those publications are enlightened and as such have power over the conspiracy and cannot be harmed or stopped by the conspiracy.

e) There is a conspiracy, and the ones with the power allow us to know of it because it doesn't matter that we know of it, we cannot do anything to stop it.

f) Something else...

So why are those things allowed to be published and known throughout the world (especially 1984 and The Matrix)?

Also, I didn't know which forum to place this thread, thought this one suited the most.

Thanks

the answer is a mix of C and D and E...we know there is a conspiracy against the world, and the NWO is its end goal, we see it evolve more and more each day, and how and why it's being brought into frutition, the de-population policy, planet's loss of vital resources etc, and in general how the world works, how war is still abundant even though we are meant to be civilised people now who know that war solves nothing...except rebulid the economy, making billions for illuminati companies used to rebuild the destruction, kill of (depopulate vast areas) of people/civilians and cause more people to say 'something most be done' therefore reinforce the PRS...

When you find out the ins and outs of 'the conspiracy' everything in the world makes complete sense, it is no mystery anymore! That and the fact that certain knowledge (esoteric) which should form the very basis of our education from childhood is surpressed from us, while the powers that be have the monopoly of this very knowledge.

I've asked this question alot as to why this stuff is allowed to be put out there, and it's just cause more sheeple think we're all nutters than actually bother to think for themselves, and because of how they've been conditioned they do not want to see that their tony blair, bush, rumsfeld, cheney, brown etc are working against them...they're there to pat the sheeple on the back and tell them everything will be ok, we just need to take care of the "terrorists" and with the NWO there will b e no more terror, or war, everyone will be SAFE, as bloody microchipped slaves but they don't tell them that! :rolleyes:

[celtic isis]

Why are such things allowed to be published: 1984 book, Icke's books, The Matrix movies, Alice in Wonderland, creatures in movies that accuractely depict the Chitauri as Credo Mutwa says, conspiracy websites and books... you get the idea.

I've thought a bit about it, and I think one of these must be the reason:

a) There is no conspiracy, which is why these publications have not been stopped.

b) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power don't have the power to restrict every single published item. Or they don't know of such things like 1984 until it's already well-known to the public and they can't take it away.

c) There is a conspiracy, but the ones in power are letting us have these thought-provoking publications for their own secret reasons and agenda (eg. to ridicule, or to soften us up).

d) There is a conspiracy, but those that create those publications are enlightened and as such have power over the conspiracy and cannot be harmed or stopped by the conspiracy.

e) There is a conspiracy, and the ones with the power allow us to know of it because it doesn't matter that we know of it, we cannot do anything to stop it.

f) Something else...

So why are those things allowed to be published and known throughout the world (especially 1984 and The Matrix)?

Also, I didn't know which forum to place this thread, thought this one suited the most.

Thanks

sorry it posted twice!

Also if you're interested kerksal by clicking on the link in my signature you can get cooper's book for free, it's got a fantastic background to the how's and why's of the NWO etc.

[eternal_spirit]

Some books like 1984, where the plans of the illuminati NWO ists written into a science fiction type book, which is what it was to the people at the time the book and story where published.
In fact knowledge of this technology and how to use it against the people, micro chip CCTV etc was allready known to the brotherhood, so 1984 was predictive programming showing us the future reality (the one we have now in parts), other sci fi stuff....more recent books and films could well turn out to be the future a reality.

How much is happening behind the scenes and what's next?

[mada88]

The best place to hide something is right in front of you, because you won't look there. The one thing I have a problem with is if the guys at top where up against someone, wouldn't they just cancel there bank account?

[kerksal]

They must be very arrogant indeed if they allow stuff like David Icke's work to continue to spread. With their power, they can easily suppress his work by a proper assassination; problems with publishing; hacking into the site/forums; disrupting presentations and speeches; arranging waves of ridicule from the media like Icke faced in the '90s; discrediting his work by mind-controlling famous or credible authors, scientists, historians, conspiracy theorists, etc... Many of these things have already occurred, like the hacking and ridicule. Surely those in power that have arranged such an elaborate, complex and near flawless take-over of the world would know to never underestimate your enemy?

[pumma]

Why are such things allowed to be published: 1984 book, Icke's books, The Matrix movies, Alice in Wonderland, creatures in movies that accuractely depict the Chitauri as Credo Mutwa says, conspiracy websites and books... you get the idea.

First of all Welcome http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif Enjoy your stay ...

What you must understand is that - when a person is "in a sleep" state (bombarded with disinfo > brainwashed) it doesen't matter what information he gets via books, movies, radio, net etc ... But when you start to collect the official information available it doesen't make any sence at all it only increases confusion ...

Only when you start to study the "forbidden" information that is beeing kept away from the public - then it will start to reveal why are "they" hidding this and who is behind all this and why ...

(edit)
Surely those in power that have arranged such an elaborate, complex and near flawless take-over of the world would know to never underestimate your enemy?
Yes, but you can defend your self with the power of the mind - manifestation reality and can avoid such negative attempts...

[kerksal]

Thanks for the welcome :D

I need to learn more about all this.

[mada88]

in-formation? do you want me in formation? is that an order?

[john white]

Its basic group psychology:

"There are none so enslaved as those who falsley believe they are free"

Start restricting books and bumping people off and people know they are NOT free: then real resistance becomes more not less likely: oppression has always been the path of the desperate

Then another factor is allowing ideas etc out into fiction and Films pre-empts the power of the revelation: "Oh he got that from a Movie"

Lastly the Elite know that some know, and factor to cope with that, becuase they know a few minds will always learn to "see": they monitor those individuals but resist interfering with them, becuase that will attract attention (energy) to them and could lead in itself to mass awakening through LOA principles (energy goes where attention flows)

Theres a strong tendancy for people to get tied up in knots over this in conspiracyville and end up basicaly paranoics, but its really very simple: "Know yourself: and Live it"

Thats all we can do, and fortunately, all we have to do

The truth is: without the compliance of the programmed masses, the Elites "power" disappears in a puff of smoke.

The biggest mistake of all people make when contemplating "them" is they mistake the illusion of control for the reality of influence: becuase thats all that temporal "power" is!

[celtic isis]

First of all Welcome http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif Enjoy your stay ...

What you must understand is that - when a person is "in a sleep" state (bombarded with disinfo > brainwashed) it doesen't matter what information he gets via books, movies, radio, net etc ... But when you start to collect the official information available it doesen't make any sence at all it only increases confusion ...

Only when you start to study the "forbidden" information that is beeing kept away from the public - then it will start to reveal why are "they" hidding this and who is behind all this and why ...

(edit)

Yes, but you can defend your self with the power of the mind - manifestation reality and can avoid such negative attempts...

pumma put this so well i won't add anything :) that's the key thing in this manipulation of the human race, the supression of key knowledge, once you go there you see how it's all possible and why it's happening/being done.

what pumma said is exactly it, plus as people are so conditioned and don't even think for themselves (without realising it) they all think icke etc are complete nutters, crackpots, fruitcakes etc i've heard the lot.

That's why the ones running the show couldn't give a toss about people like him. They know that icke digs his own grave by being so involved with the reptilian stuff...the sheeple can't grasp it, it ruins his credibility even though we know it's all possible this is the case (as to the "birth right to rule") these people have always claimed to have and explains the sheer coldness and callousness of their crimes against us.

I'm really sick of doing my best to wake some sheeple and (from my own brother) i get 'oh most of those conspiracy people are all nutjobs, you should just spend your time making things (business, money) for yourself and not bother about other people'...and they decide this without even reading or listening to anything that has been said by such people. And these are sheeple who used to look further and now they just have fallen into the sleepwalking trap peddled by the media etc. It's so frustrating and so sad. I really don't know how this battle can be won? :confused:

[celtic isis]

Its basic group psychology:

"There are none so enslaved as those who falsley believe they are free"

Start restricting books and bumping people off and people know they are NOT free: then real resistance becomes more not less likely: oppression has always been the path of the desperate

Then another factor is allowing ideas etc out into fiction and Films pre-empts the power of the revelation: "Oh he got that from a Movie"

Lastly the Elite know that some know, and factor to cope with that, becuase they know a few minds will always learn to "see": they monitor those individuals but resist interfering with them, becuase that will attract attention (energy) to them and could lead in itself to mass awakening through LOA principles (energy goes where attention flows)

Theres a strong tendancy for people to get tied up in knots over this in conspiracyville and end up basicaly paranoics, but its really very simple: "Know yourself: and Live it"

Thats all we can do, and fortunately, all we have to do

The truth is: without the compliance of the programmed masses, the Elites "power" disappears in a puff of smoke.

The biggest mistake of all people make when contemplating "them" is they mistake the illusion of control for the reality of influence: becuase thats all that temporal "power" is!

what insightful people we have on this forum :) geat post there john white, i hadn't thought of the "oh he got that from a movie" thing...that's so true. How can people be so frustrating!

You're right though, once you know the truth yourself and you know yourself, and live it, you're already out of the sheepen, it's just getting the others to follow...

[john white]

Spot on Isis and your welcome

"special theory of effective communication":

Now there's a vast topic all on its own!