The Vortex Maths - Marko Rodin Thread

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Even though this info largely fits into Nassim Harameins work and could be posted on the Nassim thread,
I wanted to create a thread solely for Marko Rodins "Vortex Based Mathematics".

I have been closley studying his work for a good while now and have come to conclude this this stuff is absolutley A MUST to look at and understand if you are going to bother to try to understand any of this stuff. Of course, knowing of Nassim's work and others like Stan Tenen and Viktor Schauberger etc will GREATLY enhance the connectivity as you start to understand this work. It may look complicated at first but I assure you it is not. You only need to be able to do basic addition, multiplication etc, and having an eye for patterns and symmetry will help.

Then you may think that this doesn't equate to anything more than some interesting magic squares or number patterns that are irrelavent to real world applications or the nature of reality.
This couldn't be furthur from the truth.
Mathematics is the base understanding of geometry, physics, chemistry, biology, all life and time-space fabric itself; everything!
As Nassim points out, it's not the particles that matter but rather the patterns and the harmonics!
This is a full access view to the harmonics, geometry, vibration, time-space dynamics of all energetic systems and it's easy enough for anyone to understand.




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Welcome to VORTEX BASED MATHEMATICS
As discovered by Marko Rodin.




Utube Video Lecture: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5227CD94BC5C7D51


Website Links:
http://www.rense.com/RodinAerodynamics.htm
http://rodin.freelancepartnership.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://lifeforcegenie.com/unified-science-of-everything/vortex-based-mathematics.html
http://www.theinfovault.net/vault/science/rodinscoil.html



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(From RodinAerodynamics.org)

[B]Using a new math that shows that numbers are not man-made symbols, but are actually real, you will see and understand the answers to these questions.

Learn about:

* A particle that does not bend, but causes everything in the universe to curve around it.
* The three toroidal number patterns that are the basis to all mathematics (the pattern of numbers traversing the toroidal surface in, out, and around).
* The universe as an ecological system of renewal.
* Your body being made out of countless stars of the past.
* Proof of an omniscient supreme being.
* Making a coil that produces unlimited free energy.
* A number grid that shows the underpinning geometry of the universe.
* How everything is a torus.
* Making a propulsion source that can take you anywhere in the universe.
* Artificial Intelligence based on a binary triplet.
* The Aetheric Template in DNA that guides evolution.
* The repeating number pattern that solves pi and demonstrates it to be a whole number.
* A mathematics in which numbers do not move, but the functions move instead.
* How numbers form a 3D solid geometric object.
* The secret of a gyroscope -- why it vertically lifts itself upright.
* Wormholes, nested vertices, portals, and doorways.
* Why Dimensions are a result of how things move through space.
* The preferred frame of reference to the universe is based upon the fixed constant number 9.
* Number crunching and encription compression done through cross addition.
* The labrynth maze of the Doubling Circuits where they invert in the center.
* World boundary conditions and inversion seams of nested vortices.
* The bilateral symmetry of the decimal system resulting in polar number pairs having parity by being perfect mirrors of one another.
* The zero is always in the center in the form of the vortex hole.
* Multiplication series are unbroken rings from cross sections of the torus.
* A number cannot be created or destroyed and zero does not exist on a number line or in any multiplication series.
* The number 9 is the node and represents Spirit.
* The numbers 3 and 6 represent the Yin and Yang in the form of magnetism and the number 9 is the S curve.
* The base ten numerical counting system is triangulated.
* Infinity has an epicenter.
* The powers of ten occur by halfing.
* The torus skin models harmonic cascadence.

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(From theinfovault.net/vault/science/rodinscoil.html)

"In every age there is a turning point, a new way of seeing
and asserting the coherence of the world."
-- Jacob Bronkowski

Marko Rodin has discovered a series of regularities in the decimal number system heretofore undocumented and overlooked by conventional mathematics and science. These patterns lay out on the surface and within the internal volume of a torus. Mathematicians, computer scientists and other leading scientific thinkers have tested and validated this revolutionary discovery, known as the Rodin Solution and often referred to as the Rodin Coil.

The Rodin Coil is a blueprint, or schematic of the universe, that enables anything to be engineered. By using the schematic of a Rodin Coil, one can know the pathways and motion everything takes – past, present and future – from the quantum level up to solar systems and galaxies. Simply put, Rodin has discovered the underpinning geometry of the universe. He has found the missing energy behind the continuous creation and recreation of the universe. Scientists refer to this missing energy as "dark matter" or "dark energy" because they have so far been unable to account for it.

Finding this "dark energy" is the biggest scientific search of our times. And Marko Rodin has found it.

The Rodin Coil is a nozzle that can turn mankind into intergalactic citizens by functioning as a vertical lift power propulsion spacecraft due to its massive magnetic field

Rodin, with his Vortex-Based Mathematics, is able to decode the entire universe from the quantum level to galaxies, using a mathematics so simple even a nine year-old can do it. Vortex-Based Mathematics, or the Rodin Solution, will change
our world forever.

The Rodin Torus Coil makes much of current technology obsolete, including the following :

• The combustion engine
• Alternating current
• Conventional computer compression schemes
• Current methods of heat dissipation in computer processors
• Conventional wireless communication
• Winged airplanes
• All conventional types of encryption
• Endless repeating decimals are eliminated as a result of being able to compute a whole value for anything
• Chemical-based approaches to medical treatment can be eliminated through controlling genetic engineering via the high-dimensional flux fields which are the basis of all creation

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The primary intention of this information is to outline and visually display, in an easy-to-understand-way, the fundamentals of what Marko Rodin calls “Vortex Based Mathematics” and establish the self evident axioms within the base ten decimal, numerical system.

In this new view, numbers are “real” in that they are not merely representations of other things but have fundamental property characteristics of their own. They express spatial geometry along with chronological dynamics; space and time. (Numbers have temporal, spatial and volumetric qualities and the symmetry of our decimal system is a principle of nature)

This information is extremely vast in terms of connectivity between subjects and its implications. Ultimately this is an outline of what could very well be considered a “Grand Unified Theory of Everything”. (This proposal may sound absurd and yet is not also both self-explanatory and essential?) I am going to try to keep things as simple and clear as possible until I think that I have covered enough to start drawing in more advanced conclusions.

In this work, we will be continually employing the use of what is termed “decimal parity”, whereby multiple digit numbers are added together to reveal its base digit. (Numerology style)

Example; 164 = 1+6+4 = 11 = 1+1 = 2
Therefore; 164 = 2

The justification of this is that it reveals the harmonic resonance or the numeric ratios within. (This will become clear as we progress further.)
Of importance are the harmonics and the patterns. To recognise the patterns is to see the connections; to see the order. It’s not the size of the number that’s important it’s the harmonic resonance it has to the whole. The “whole”, in terms of this, is infinity.


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The number nine is the primary focus of this endeavour and can be thought of as the “God”, if you like, of all numbers since there are only nine digits that make up any and all numbers into infinity. Since the zero is not a value or a vector, it is not included on the control. In fact there is no such thing as “nothing” anymore than there is such a thing as “darkness”, they are only descriptions of a perceived lack of something; lack of light, lack of order, lack of energy, lack of consciousness...

Nine is everything, zero is nothing. Therefore; nine and zero occupy the same space on the control.

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Another way to look at the number nine is to say that unless you employ renormalization, you will never reach a full digit. In the same way as you could say infinity equals one, so does nine.
(Result; 1 = 0.999 recurring into infinity)
(A quick note; this is akin to what you would expect a black hole or a plenum to look like expressed numerically.)
If you divide 1 by 3 you get 0.333 recurring and the other way; 3 divided by 1 = 3, simple. Now replace the 1 with 9 so you now have; 3 divided by 9, instead of 1, but which equals 0.333 recurring also. Nine is the “whole”. Zero is the “hole”.
In regards to zero, you could look at it like this; if you have 10 and cast out nine you have; “1”. If you have a 1 and a 0 next to each other; “10” and remove the zero, you also end up with “1”.
(Result; 0 = 9, 9 = 0)
This may seem unorthodox but this really is the truth of numbers. What I am doing is revealing that numbers are infinite and I am demonstrating a way in which to work with them as such, instead of the usual way of dealing with infinities which is to simply get rid of them through a process of renormalisation.
So we see that the number nine stands above the rest. It is completely unique.

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Next in line of importance is 3 and 6. Three and six are nines left and right hands and they continually oscillate between each other.
Example: 3+3 = 6, 6+6 = 12 which = 3
12+12 = 24 which = 6 etc...

The first major focus of VBM is this primary “control dial”; study it closely.


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The numbers one to nine are laid out clockwise around a circle.
First, notice that if you count around clockwise, when you get to what should be a “10” it is a “1”; this is because it is in “decimal parity”.

10 compresses to 1, 11 compresses to 2, 12 compresses to 3 and so on, so we really only need these 9 digits to express all possible combinations of numbers and reveal their resonant position.

Now notice that there are two different sets of lines, we could call them rails or tracks in which must be followed.
The first pattern goes like this; 1 – 2 – 4 – 8 – 7 – 5 and then back to 1. This is one scale.

Without the decimal parity you can see that 32 is 5 and then back 1 is 64. So 64 is one scale of doubling. (Nassim discovered that a 64 Tetrahedron grid defines one scale of the geometry of space.)
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Notice that we are doubling and compressing to single digits. (After you double 8 you get 16 but 1+6 = 7) This can be repeated over and over into infinity and the decimal parity will always be the same. The relevance of doubling is many, one of them is that cell mitosis works in this way and is therefore the number pattern that nature uses to grow. We are ultimately, literally modelling the way energy moves and expresses itself throughout our reality.
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The opposite of doubling is halving, which is the same circuit moving back the other way;
1-5-7-8-4-2 and back to 1
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Also apparent is that this movement draws an infinity symbol and if you separate 9 from the other numbers there are 8, and 8x8 = 64 which is one scale the of doubling circuit.
1+1 = 2, 2+2 = 4, 4+4 = 8,
8+8= 16, 16+16 = 32, 32+32 = 64

The number “8” is of course shaped like an infinity symbol also, coincidence? There is, I would suggest, no “random” or “coincidence”, only perfect harmonic order outside of chaotic perception, which is one of the lessons that these number patterns teach us.
To see the patterns is to expand awareness.

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Now notice that the 3, 6 and 9 are never touched, they are “hidden” from the other numbers. The movement accurately is from 3 to 9 to 6 and then from 6 to 9 back to 3 infinitely creating this pattern; 3,9,6,6,9,3,3... These 3 numbers are separate from the rest. The 3, 6 and 9 are to be thought of as “linear” whereas the rest are continually turning around in a logarithmic spiral.
(In geometry there are only 2 kinds of lines you can make, a straight line and a curved line. The 3, 9, 6 is the straight line and the others curve around it like vines around a branch, or like the two snakes around the rod on the Caduceus symbol, or water in a spinning vortex exchanging air through the centre... )


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Just as important as 9 is the number 3, since 9 is 3 squared and 3 is the first prime. (Squared = enclosing space = a complete 360 degrees) Everything contained herein will be expressing this “3ness” or thirds principal. Rodin calls it a “binary third”. (Space is defined by 3 dimensions.) When working with these number patterns, always think in terms of thirds. The cross-over point on the control dial also expresses thirds. It is one third of the diameter of the circle;
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An extremely important part of VBM is what is called the “Family Number Groups”.
FNGs are simply digits separated by 3’s. Start with the first number “1” and add 3, you get “4”. Add 3 to 4 and you get “7”; add 3 to 7 and you are back to 1.
1, 4 and 7 then, are the first Family Number Group.

Start now with “2” and add 3, it equals “5”; add 3 to 5 and you get “8”. 2, 5 and 8 then, are the second FNG. What’s left? 3, 6 and 9, all separated by 3 movements.

Also worth pointing out is that there are only four movements between numbers; addition (+), subtraction (-), division (÷) and multiplication (x). Of these four movements, 2 groups can be defined; addition (forward)\subtraction (backward) and multiplication (forward)\division (backward).
They are mirror images of each other.

So to re-cap, I have covered the central importance of nine, the secondary importance of 3 and 6, the doubling circuit; 1,2,4,8,7,5, the master circuit; 3,6 and 9, the importance of thirds and the family number groups 1,4,7 2,5,8 and 3,6,9 and the 2 modes of symmetrical movements; - + x ÷


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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

The numbers above constitute the entire number set. There can be no more and no less.

THE THREE FAMILY NUMBER GROUPS
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Notice that there are a total of 3 Family Number Groups and that they are defined by separations of 3.
Of these 3 sets, 1 of them stands out from the others; 3, 6 & 9
3 , 6 , 9
9 is the “master digit”.
3 and 6 are its polar opposites that move in opposite directions.
(3 and 6 move in opposite directions because if you add 3 to any number you will move clockwise around the control dial and if you add by 6 you will move anti-clockwise around the dial)

9 can be seen as 3 squared or the square root of 9.

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

(3x3 = 9)
(√9 = 3)


This 3x3 grid is also important in that it defines a central square. To define a central point you need equality in all directions in which to focus in on it.

A sphere is the most equal 3D shape possible and it is no surprise that nature uses this form at all scales from an atom to a planet for this very reason. If you use 10 squares you do not get an equal square, another reason 9 is your numeric set, not 10.

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Now I will move on to the symmetry that is present with this control and the Polar Pair Numbers. Observe the central vertical axis of the control dial. Where each number horizontally paired meet each other they equal nine creating a spine of nine.

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This is evident in any multiplication of nine;
2 x 9 = 18 = 1 + 8 = 9
3 x 9 = 27 = 2 + 7 = 9
4 x 9 = 36 = 3 + 6 = 9 etc...
Nine is always self-similar and linear.

So the PPNs are; 1&8, 2&7, 3&6 and 4&5.
These groups should be considered mirror images.

Since the 3&6 are in another league, so-to-speak, from the other groups, we could display these groups like so;

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The 3&6 create a space where you are left with three groups. One group is separated and defined from the other two groups vertically, giving you another expression of thirds once again. (One of three)
This expression of thirds will permeate throughout this math everywhere...

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The above image shows the decimal parity multiplication of each doubling circuit number and how the numbers all mirror each other and move in the opposite direction.
For instance; 1x4 = 4, 2x4 = 8 3x4 = 12 = 3, 4x4 = 16 = 7, 5x4 = 20 = 2, 6x4 = 24 = 6, 7x4 =28 = 10 = 1
8x4 = 32 = 5, 9x4 = 36 = 9
So for “4” you have the sequence from left to right; 4,8,3,7,2,6,1,5,9
Straight away I know that “5” is going to have the exact same sequence only going in the opposite direction except for the nine which is always at the end. And I know it’ll be the “5” that will match because it is the polar opposite of 4.
So the sequence for “5” is going to go from right to left like this; 5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9
1x5 = 5, 2x5 = 10 = 1, and 3x5 = 15 = 6 etc, etc....

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So what is being expressed here is what you could call “super-symmetry”. These are the interactions that are going on. From the central “nine-spine”, or “z axis” the numbers flow out in perfect bi-lateral symmetry. (Note; The 9 axis causes the doubling circuit and it is the point towards which matter converges and away from which it diverges or expands)

Observe these control dials and the symmetry being expressed between the numbers (just add the connected numbers together and compress them).There are many more than these but this will suffice;


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The next image depicts the interactions going on in between the numbers moving around the outside of the dial.
These new numbers could also be called a new “control” since they are ordered differently and yet maintain the essential properties of symmetry and the doubling circuit etc...

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1,3,5,7,9,2,4,6,8
Notice the FNGs are again separated by the all important thirds and that the 3,9,6 is inverted by 180 degrees.
Also, you can count in multiples of two’s; 1+2 = 3, 3+2 = 5, 5+2 = 7 etc...
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If we repeat the process once more we get; 4,8,3,7,2,6,1,5,9
The FNG’s are still separated by thirds. The 3,9,6 has now returned to the same orientation (it has been spun 360 degrees) and you can now count in multiples of 4; 4+4 = 8, 8+4 = 12 = 3, 3+4 = 7 etc, etc...If you did this a third time you would get; 4,3,2,1,9,8,7,6,5 Can you see what has happened? Can you see the perfection? Always look for symmetry, always look for the thirds.
This stuff reaches across pretty well all subjects or anything that has energy. This is the way energy wants to move in nature. The nature of water, the nature of electrons, the nature of magnetism... This is why everything spins.
Here are more ways to illustrate that this pattern is expressing the oscillation between 3 and 6.

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I feel I have, at this point, adequately explained the first fundamental section of Vortex Based Mathematics which is the control dial.
I have also covered the interactions and demonstrated the symmetry and the law of thirds that is going on within.
Now I am going to move on to the second section which is where it all comes together. Are you ready?

This number pattern creates a lattice that maps a 3 dimensional geometry that has temporal, spatial and volumetric qualities. What I am about to cover is called the “Torus Skin”, but first I will try to show you how the dial is converted to this “skin”.


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First, just observe where the doubling circuit on this modular chunk of the skin is. It goes from 1 to 2 to 4 and then it jumps a whole third to get to 8, then it moves back the other way to 7 and finally 5, before it jumps the gap back to the 1 you started with.
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Now look back to the doubling circuit and observe how when you get to “4” you have to cross the centre from bottom to top and then the numbers move back the other way to “5” and then again has to cross the spine from bottom to top back to “1”.

The 3 and the 6 are separated by the central nine, just like the dial. If you look at the control dial you’ll notice that 3 and 6 never touch, there is no line between them; it goes from 3 to 9 then to 6, 6 to 9 then to 3. Think of the way magnetic poles repel. (So do the family number groups, as do the 3 and 6).

If you compress horizontally from the far left to the far right you get what is in the central vertical row;

1+5 = 6
2+7 = 9
4+8 = 12 (1+2) = 3

You’ll find plenty more patterns on the larger torus skin that demonstrate symmetry and thirds. The trick isn’t in just finding patterns, but in understanding what those patterns are showing you in terms of movement, geometry, physics, vibration etc.
What are the dynamics? Where is the resonance? Where is the centre, the equalibriam?

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Here is a good sized section of the infinitely repeating torus skin numbers.
Take your time with this one!


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The 3,9,6,6,9,3 master pattern is repeating infinitely on the diagonal with oscillating positive and negative. The FNG is all linear
The 1,2,4,8,7,5 doubling\halving circuit is going in 2 directions in the same diagonal plain as the master, joined at the “1”; one of them starts positive and the other negative. The 1,4,7 FNG is always oscillating between the 2,5,8 FNG diagonally.

Vertically you have the linear 1 through 9 positive and negative running in opposite directions from the “ones”. And horizontally you have positives and negatives going 5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9, in both directions which is moving in powers of 5; 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 ,30 etc... Or subtracting by 5; 5-5 = 0 and zero is the same as nine only backwards so to speak. So it goes 5-5 = 9, 9-5 = 4, 4 – 5 = 8 etc... Look at the control dial again;


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Start at 1 and divide by 5; 1÷5 = 0.2, 2÷5 = 0.4, 4÷5 = 0.8, 8÷5 = 1.6 = 7, 7÷5 = 1.4 = 5, 5÷5 and your back to 1. (Even if I didn’t compress say, the 1.6 and said 1.6÷5 instead of using 7 it would be; 0.32 which is still a 5.)
Have a look at the shape of the number 5, keeping in mind that there are no coincidences. Which number looks like a perfect mirror of it? The answer is “2”. 2 and 5 go to together in this way. (Keep in mind 2+5 = 7)
The opposite way is dividing by 2; 1÷2 = 0.5, 5÷2 = 2.5 = 7, 7÷2 = 3.5 = 8, 8÷2 = 4, 4÷2 = 2 and 2÷2 = 1 and your back to the beginning.
So multiplying by 2 moves clockwise – dividing by 2 moves anti-clockwise & multiplying by 5 moves anti-clockwise & dividing by 5 moves clockwise.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/86/l_d2aaf27c233844018d97e51f1d295a70.jpg

Now find 2 and 5 on the torus skin. They are right next to each other diagonally. What other numbers will match in this way, if we know 2 and 5 have this synergy and are next to each other in that particular diagonal plain? Next to it is 4 and 7 the other way is a 1 and a 1, and the other is 8 and 8. After that it repeats only reverse numbered.
We’ll call these number groups “pairs” instead of “mirrors”, so the 5’s “pair” is “2” but 5’s “mirror” is “4” (5+4 = 9).
Pairs are on the doubling/halving circuit and mirrors are all on the “spine of nine”.
Here’s another way of looking at these pairs;


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_83275ef880e6474e9c7a777d207e7cee.jpg

[barbitone]

So if 2 and 5 are paired then so must these; 4-7, 1-1 and 8-8. The 4 and 7 do the same thing only in movements of x2 instead of x1.
2&5 went; 1,2,4,8,7,5 whereas 4&7 go; “1” skip 2, “4” skip 8, “7” skip 5 back to “1”. Multiples of 4 move clockwise and multiples of 7 move anti-clockwise. Division by 4 moves anti-clockwise as you would expect but something interesting happens when you divide by 7.


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/80/l_e9cffe0061bd4351996a81827658a206.jpg

You get this repeating decimal, when dividing by 7, of the same 2 FNG’s (1,4,7s and 2,5,8s.) When you get to 7 it is back to 1. This sequence draws this pattern which is well known as the “Enneagram”;

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_7f99ffba5280441996074eedad704cc0.gif

But if you add these decimal numbers together you get all nines? So what’s going on?
If 7÷7 = 1, then the next would be to divide 8 by 7, but the same pattern continues from the beginning again.
So in this instance 8=1. (8+1=9)
8 and 1 are mirrors.
So what is the mirror of the number we are dividing by? “2”.


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/77/l_b106bb268b3c44288e9d891b0f4f5a36.jpg

So look at division by 2 table and the decimal parity number for 8, it is “4”
Why did I choose 8? Because it is the mirror of 1, the number am trying to find for 1÷7.
So now I know 1÷7 = 0.142857 but those numbers all add up to 9? So I referred to the mirror table of 7s and looked at 8 because I am trying to find 1 which is its mirror. It was 4 so now I know that 0.142857 = 4
And so on...
You end up with; 4, 8, 3, 7, 2, 6
Which is moving by 4’s, o we’re back on track in terms of symmetry.
1&1 2&5 4&7 8&8
(But there is something different about sevens. They seem to act like a secondary 9!)

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/l_d67e792a5f8e498bbfd142a300ae6685.gif

[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/geology/leveson/core/graphics/mapgraphics/circ-360newsx3.gif

Now it becomes somewhat clearer as to why there are 360 degrees in a circle. They are all expressing decimal parity of 9 which is to say; centre focused. Even if you halve 45 and so on you will get 22.5 = 9, 11.25 = 9, 5.625, 2.8125 = 9 and so on... The 9 is a self similar axis, the Z axis. The X and Y define the surface topology of the logarithmic spiral, while Z is the central third. 6 and 3 oscillating around nine.
And it’s probably 360 because 3 and 6 are the “nines”.
So that’s 3 dimensional, spatial orientation, what about the 4th dimension; time?


http://spyemporium.com/wireless_video_systems_covert/wireless_video_systems_covert_wall_clock_owc_05.jp g

There are 24 hours in a day; 2+4 = 6
There are 60 minutes in an hour; 6+0 = 6
There are 60 second in a minute; 6+0 = 6
So the full revolution is a 6, half is 12 which is a 3. Around the 12 hour clock you constant 3,6,9 oscillation.
3oclock, 6oclock, 9oclock, 12oclock= 3 then 15 = 6, 18 = 9.... 3,6,9,3,6,9,3,6 (8 45 degree movements)

http://www.magneticsponsoringreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/24-hour-clock.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_J_FabKwqDxE/Ro1XOcqDQRI/AAAAAAAAA88/GBRKX8lz6ls/s320/Droste+Effect+Time+Spiral.jpg

[barbitone]

Numbers have temporal, spatial and volumetric qualities. Space and time are one thing; “space-time”. They are both spirals. Everything is a curved line except the 9; the spirit emanation outside of space and time. It’s everywhere and nowhere, it’s the ALL, the WHOLE.

In the centre of our galaxy is a super-massive black-hole. We are literally inside a black hole! The hole/whole is 0/9; the central axis in which everything spins around. The 9 is what is referred to as “dark matter”. The torque on the whole system is being driven by this axis; the 9.

Not only that but an atom is 99.9999 % space; it is a mini black hole/whole.
Electromagnetism is radiating out in exchange of gravity going into the 9. Compression – Expansion. The breath of life.

It’s very simple. Thinking that time is a straight line is very similar to thinking the world is flat. It seems linear because of your perspective but in fact we are spiralling around the centre of our planet, around the centre of the sun, around the next sun and so on until it is all rotating around the central point of our galaxy. This vortex movement IS time. Like a light beam (consciousness) travelling a DVD in a spiral giving the illusion of linear progression from outside to inside in one direction...

http://www.iaffeverydayheroes.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/2007dvd.jpg

[barbitone]

That's all for now but I will update as I work on more and I'll tie in some more thing like geometry, ancient symbols and religion, DNA, crop circles, light, colour, selfeggios/music, vibration/cymatics etc....

Mean-while, have a stab at Vortex based Mathematics and just have a play with the symmetry and the thirds and the perfection.... :)

Stay tuned!

[barbitone]

Here are some of my pattern sheets to give you a visual on some of the harmonics going on.


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_e882b94f41d74b1399d8337ada4884a6.jpg http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_8edaba4b4455450ea10b013c5c30efad.jpg

[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

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[ex_anser_ovo]

That is a lot of information to digest, so it'll take some time to go over.
But thank you for posting this, as I've never seen or heard Marko Ronin before.
But now seeing him, and hearing him, I got this feeling. A spidey sense.

You know what I thought was intriguing about what he is saying?
How he claims that zero and infinity are reciprocal.
That is very important. :D

[barbitone]

Yes, it is a lot of information, but it's very simple. Every complexity is merely multiple simplicities.

I would say that 0 and 1 are the "9" in two modes; everything and nothing.
Space, we find out, is full of energy, and matter, we find, is all empty!

Space = 0 Compression - Gravity
Matter = 1 Expansion - Electromagnetism

Both of these combine to make the "9". 9 is more than everything, it is also "nothing". Everything is one thing, including the darkness....

[ex_anser_ovo]

9 is significant in Mythology too. :)

In Norse Mythology alone, 9 is the number of days and nights it took Odin to acquire the secrets of the universe, which set into motion events that lead to his death.
Heimdallr is born of 9 mothers, and he is to initiate Ragnarok.
Thor takes 9 steps before dying after fighting the World Serpent.
There are 9 locks on the chest that holds Lævateinn, the weapon destined to annihilate everything.
9 gods are written to survive Ragnarok.
It takes nine nights for Odin's ring to produce 8 more rings, for a total of nine.

A lot of examples of 9's role.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu9.php
It seems to have fascinated people for ages.

[barbitone]

Nice one. Yeah, there's "love potion number 9", "cloud 9", "a cat has 9 lives", you can do the 9 x table on your fingers by putting down the finger of which ever number your multiplying by and count the numbers on each side of the finger that you put down. There are 9 months between conception and the birth of a human baby. Obviously, the Bahai faith that Rodin is of, says; 9 symbolizes completeness in the Bahá'í Faith and the word "Bahá'" in the Abjad notation has a value of 9. A 9-pointed star is used to symbolize the religion.

[barbitone]

And of course (from Wiki;) the Beatles released a song called "Revolution 9" which appears on The White Album (more properly known as The Beatles); its principal vocal feature is a voice repeating, "Number nine...number nine...number nine..." John Lennon, the primary composer of "Revolution 9", also released a solo recording entitled "#9 Dream". :D


http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/cherhi%7E1.jpg

[ex_anser_ovo]

And of course (from Wiki;) the Beatles released a song called "Revolution 9" which appears on The White Album (more properly known as The Beatles); its principal vocal feature is a voice repeating, "Number nine...number nine...number nine..." John Lennon, the primary composer of "Revolution 9", also released a solo recording entitled "#9 Dream". :D

:eek: I remember that one. Holy smokes.
It's symbolism of cyclic nature is everywhere.

[barbitone]

Numbers and patterns can be found anywhere anytime in anything. What's really important is understanding what those numbers or patterns are revealing to you about yourself and your reality/experience.

[ex_anser_ovo]

You've blown my mind tonight barbitone. :D
I normally don't pay too much attention to numbers, although I had a feeling that the simple property of frequency is significant to existence.
I'll need to sleep soon, but I'm eager to read more.

[barbitone]

2D vibrational wave; http://disappearednews.com/images/3f4d274cdb95_BCD0/SineWave.gif


"Vibration" is actually an oscillation around a central point in 3 dimensions.


http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/106/m_9816c118de1d41c69a6ec7d3da317a67.gif

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_4de204de5eb64cf4878c4802466b2c65.gif

[barbitone]

I'd just like to point out that a regular coil looks like these;

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/67/l_4ddd80039ad04c579a3484d1f6943afb.gif



Whereas the Rodin Coil, looks like this;
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_14d9260afc43405b848e8eb9ab8fb752.jpg http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_fb87cc19c93046e8af925ebb001f19c4.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WsE6M_RjBIY/SDDtx98w4hI/AAAAAAAAJws/fMwnDH2IMU0/s320/water_vortex.jpghttp://www.mattbauza.com/coolpics/mt_etna_volcano_smoke_ring.jpg

[barbitone]

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[barbitone]

DNA is a beautiful expression of these dynamics, it has two windings around an invisible third that is causing the torque on the system. DNA does not start and end in a string like it is mostly shown, but is connected at the ends and forms a toroid. The Crop Circle above on the right, depicts it correctly.

From Wiki; The code defines a mapping between tri-nucleotide sequences, called codons, and amino acids There are 4³ = 64 different codon combinations possible with a triplet codon of three nucleotides

Notice how perfectly the Rodin dial fits straight on top of the DNA and matches the doubling circuit with the double helix and the invisible thirds; 3,6 and 9, line up with the third space in the DNA.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_cef379de5aea46398243b52c30e2a861.jpg
[CENTER]
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/burritovision/chilboltonalieninfohello.gif
Interestingly, the crop circle that was a message back from the SETI binary code message suggests they have 3 strands of DNA. And as Nassim has pointed out, they replied to us being Carbon life-forms, with them consisting of both Carbon and Silica, which is actually just a more accurate description since we are also made of a lot of silica also. So perhaps they were just being more accurate with the DNA also? Perhaps we have three strands....

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/DnaCropCircles1.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/77/l_7a5926a0bfc542a199a0fe4f0069b775.pnghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/108/l_7b009f96497747a0b3282341336ef059.jpg

[pedsi]

beuatiful thread barbitone......great work!:)

[barbitone]

beuatiful thread barbitone......great work!:)

Cheers Pedsi :)

I'm pretty committed to this info at the moment, I tend to dive in and out of many subjects usually but I'm sticking this one out a little longer....

I'm up for any questions you or other might have.....

[pedsi]

Here's a couple of radio interviews with Marko Rodin.....http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=276703476&blogId=351246305

[anahata]

I came across this artist called Alice Kelley who has made a site full of fractal images
http://www.fractalus.com/cheshirecat/images/fractals/gal11/l001b.jpg

Puuurdy :)

http://www.fractalus.com/cheshirecat/mainfractal.html

[barbitone]

I can't wait 'till the day someone understands VBM so that I can discuss it with them......

[ex_anser_ovo]

I am eager to learn about it, but work right now is beyond stressful.
I usually only come home to post on a few forums, eat, then sleep. :(

[barbitone]

This thread just goes to show that you can hand someone the key to all creation, but they'll just put it on their shelf.

[ex_anser_ovo]

Its gotten almost 600 views though.
Maybe on the weekend there will be more activity. :)

[barbitone]

I'd like to make a correction ; I said "3 is the first prime"; it isn't, what I meant was it is the first number besides 1 that can't be cut in half and give a full digit.

[barbitone]

In the video, Marko says that there are actually 2 control dials; one positive and one negative.Inverting one over the other defines a central space and also reveals the Trinary pattern once more.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/80/l_8de344430b914f18a458f135ae139464.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/91/l_c67c1de86d2a4cff8aa63cc5a4fb4951.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/80/l_7707acfced914db0b3488ae1fcbfa6a9.jpg

Diamonds are what we are looking for, not squares. The skin of the Torus is composed of diamonds. When you use Sacred Geometry in the way below, you get 3 diamonds.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_976da7fd8f2344ad8564e42828072adb.gif

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_d92dee44485946c49af3e143a920d958.gif

When you draw in the invisible thirds line you define a central cross section in the centre of the central diamond.

[normaltime]

This thread just goes to show that you can hand someone the key to all creation, but they'll just put it on their shelf.

You just hit the nail in the head, i just wish i could understand everything posted here but without having to finnish reading the whole thread, i have a thing with maths and equations, it stresses my mind..:o

But the implications of all this knowledge is important enough to warrant my attention.

Good job!

[barbitone]

There aren't any equations dude!!! Just 1 - 9 and plus, times, minus and divide.

It's this simple folks;

This;

1 x 9 = 9
2 x 9 = 18
3 x 9 = 27
4 x 9 = 36
5 x 9 = 45
6 x 9 = 54
7 x 9 = 63
8 x 9 = 72
9 x 9 = 81

And this;

1 + 8 = 9
2 + 7 = 9 etc etc.....

Is that hard?

[normaltime]

I meant maths in general, but yeah you make it look simple..nice!

[barbitone]

That's the thing, this really isn't maths, it's pattern recognition. The difference between this and maths is similar to the diffference between regular geometry and sacred geometry, which by the way, I also highly, highly recommend!

Have another look at these. They are simply a multiplication and addition table that has been compressed to single digits to reveal the harmonics.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_e882b94f41d74b1399d8337ada4884a6.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_8edaba4b4455450ea10b013c5c30efad.jpg

Notice how the multiplication table has the 3,6 and 9s forming squares and the addition table has them moving space by space in a diagonal movement.

So you could say the times table is giving you your structure and the addition is giving you your movement, your torque.

Both together you get a structure, a lattice, that has torque on it; has movement. So one creates the static shape (a torus) and the other gives it it's movement within itself, through itself; A torus with self-referential dynamics.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_4131cda22d1f4651bd71f438bd366988.jpg

Kinda like this; http://theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/dualtorus.gif

[wolf367]

I love this stuff! Thanks for the lessons.

A few questions:

How did you get into this? Where is this type of math taught? Why do you think it's not taught in regular schools to children? Where do you think this type of math will lead us in the future?

[barbitone]

I love this stuff! Thanks for the lessons.

A few questions:

How did you get into this? Where is this type of math taught? Why do you think it's not taught in regular schools to children? Where do you think this type of math will lead us in the future?

I heard about Marko Rodin through the Nassim Haramein thread a long time ago now but I never clicked as to what he was really showing us besides that he was also concluding that there was something about the torus which is something many unified field researchers have agreed on. It wasn't until I started actually playing with the numbers myself that I got it. The same thing happened with sacred geometry, I didn't truely get it until I tried it myself on paper.

As far as I know this type of math is'nt taught anywhere besides by Marko Rodin himself in Hawaii. He is desperatley trying to get this information out but few people understand it. He teaches for free and has had many contract offers but he is very much like Tesla was and wishes to give it out freely and keep it away from corporate hands.

This type of math, if understood, could trigger an entire paradigm shift. It demonstrates the mathematical basis of free energy, perfect harmony, zero resistance, macro level quantum interconnectivity and on and on.....
Because maths is at the very root of all areas to do with energy, it is transposable to all subjects, and if there were a universal language that all intelligences in this universe could share it would be mathematics. Stan Tenen shows that all language is mathematics and patterns anyway.

I could go on and on but I stress that all you need to do is actually do the maths, and even better , the sacred geometry also. I swear it has an effect in your brain cognition, like it is synchronizing the hemispheres since it is equally left brained and right brained when you convert the maths into 3D space and temporal dynamics. Just as sacred geometry makes you feel like your a really good artist without even trying, so does Rodin maths in the way of numbers.

In my opinion, we wont have a future if we don't understand this stuff. This is what we need in order to become galactic citizens instead of planetary.

[barbitone]

Why do you think it's not taught in regular schools to children?

Many many reasons, not least that the elite would not wont it since it would shine a bright light into dark places. Then there's the fact that nobody knows this stuff......

[barbitone]

Here's some of my whiteboard pics;

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_ebbbb45cdec14e268adc7fe836140eff.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_f75d9e2054764601823cddef3d26e788.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_f53ab64393a047dca8eadbb6d34e3c8f.jpg

[wolf367]

Here's some of my whiteboard pics;

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_ebbbb45cdec14e268adc7fe836140eff.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_f75d9e2054764601823cddef3d26e788.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_f53ab64393a047dca8eadbb6d34e3c8f.jpg

Interesting, so the all seeing eye would be numerically represented by a 9.

[barbitone]

Interesting, so the all seeing eye would be numerically represented by a 9.

Spot on. The gaze of god; the omnipresence.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/69/l_8195c37eacc240ecac3ca7c942fdc8f0.jpg

[barbitone]

http://www.goldenmeangauge.co.uk/images/solids.jpg

Notice that the dodecahedron has the most angles per face; 5. If you try this with the next up; hexagons, you can’t do it without making gaps. So you can’t have six sided faces making up a 3D shape.


http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/108/l_bee5548c3a3a44ad8e8f39e8b7909559.jpg

This is where a dimension shift happens. The closest to a 3D version of a hexagon is the vector equilibrium.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_4b7a4e78977e4376a8e7006f720d26c7.gif

It does not have equal faces but it does have equal vectors to the centre and on the sides.

Here's the kicker; THIS 3D SHAPE IS SAYING; "LOOK AT ME, I'M MOVING THROUGH MYSELF, I AM FOCUSED ON THE CENTRE, I AM SELF-REFERENTIAL" Don't you see?

[barbitone]

It's the dynamics alone! Don't you see? What we call things are just movements, vibrations. But the vibration is omni-directional. We see something when it divides itself and creates a boundary.

It's like a pool full of water, in order to define "this" water from "that" water, because it's homogeneous, it has to "move through itself", and it does this in a vortex, to define what is being pulled inside the vortex and what isn't.

http://www.gregmarshall.net/Vortex/images/vortex.jpg

In this case we are talking about energy. Energy is homogeneous, as is "space". Space is full of energy and energy is full of space! In order for it to divide itself form itself is uses this dynamic that I am describing, to define a boundary. This is what vibrations are, they are not 2D jiggles up and down, they are the result of a vortex, toroidial pinch! These dynamics exsist at all scales like a fractal, it doesn't matter where you are it's all the centre, it's all "the same" and yet infinite.

Paradox is not "error" or "wrong" it is the way things really are outside of your subjective awaerness. If you can't accept paradox nothing will ever make sense......

[barbitone]

This is what this shape is doing. It has full directional equality and is able to both contract or expand infinitely without ommission.


THE 64 TETRAHEDRON GRID



http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_8888b97077ac4f88a20478da10dbe7a9.jpg

This is the combination of the star-tetrahedron (merkabah) and the vector-equalibriam. Expansion and contraction. Electromagnetism and gravity.

Now listen carefully.....

This thing moves, it's not static. Ok.

But because there is nothing else BUT this, anywhere, at all levels, it can't move can it? It can only move through itself. And this is what is does. It moves through itself like this;

http://theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/dualtorus.gif

http://theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/bubble1.png

It is "self-referential". Remember the first movement in geometry from drawing the circle is to move the newly formed boundary and create another to spawn "relativity", it crosses over and it is a "binary triplet" a trinary.

http://rhodeislandaltars.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/vesica.jpg

This all very very very very very very very very......relavent to RODIN MATHS. Since the mathematics is saying all of this in the form of number movements in all directions with complete harmony and no ommissions.....

[barbitone]

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_00e11cf40f054d6ba9c7342eb404c2b6.jpg

http://theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/3d_nosphere.png

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/71/l_91cae5eaf9484b728508845953fc0dfb.jpg

[barbitone]

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/missing_piece_puzzle.jpghttp://conversations.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/products-and-services-handing-you-the-key-to-ovi.jpg







http://www.freshexpressions.org.uk/uploads/images/bright%20doorway-web%231%23.jpg

[barbitone]

Some very basic, homemade videos of mine;


Rodin Maths Video 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-4Gz54RLF4&feature=channel_page


Rodin Maths Video 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW5z_-e4e0&feature=related


Related videos;

Alpha-numerics and Nine part 1;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq_WV0CdJNI&feature=channel_page

There are four parts....

[ex_anser_ovo]

I bet somewhere inside of us the concept persists that everything is only a fragile set of frequencies, defined by their relativity to the frequencies within and without.

What is the frequency of nothing. Zero or Infinite.
What is the magnitude of an infinite frequency. Zero or Infinite.
What is the amplitude, or frequency of the cycle, of infinite magnitudes generated from infinite frequencies.
I have no idea.

But I bet the road is long and winding. And one whose probability additives just keep on stacking, and stacking, and stacking...until some cyclic behaviour emerges.

[maximumgravity1]

Interesting bit of information you have compiled here Barbitone. It would be nice if you could compile all the threads into a single PDF for distribution and reference. You have some nice images.

I have just recently found about Rodin and his system, but continue to see more and more clarity with it as each day passes. The absolute symmetry of the number system, combined with it's shear simplicity lead me to believe that there is something more going on then mere coincidence, or "unique" circumstance. It is because it is so simple that I tend to believe it is correct. Most things when we boil away the "crap" that man has introduced, we find very simple concepts that rule nature - that are harmonious and unchanging. It is only our limited explanations of these that tend to force the subject to get more complex to match our line of thinking.

I wanted to share a couple of things in hopes to solidify my understanding, and possibly start some discussion, as well take this to the next level for my understanding.

In looking at the symbol of the square lazy 8, that Marko used in his video, a few things become readily apparent. I think the most overwhelming aspect is the role that 3 & 6 play, and their innate duality of opposition.

1.) If you add the sum of each leg of the "8" it always equals 3 or 6.
1+2 = 3
2+4 = 6
4+8 = 12 = 3
8+7 = 15 = 6
7+5 = 12 = 3
5+1 = 6

2.) In looking at the image that Marko drew in the video, he used red and blue lines. Without ever changing the relationship of these lines, both halves of the "8" became mirrored, inversed opposites.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_f120afec987541c7bea78ecdc48e93c1.jpg
The 1-2-4 "leg" shows the blue line on the outside while the red is completely contained within the borders. The 8-7-5 "leg" is the inverse with the red on the outside. I believe this visually depicts an interesting relationship between the two halves, and begins to say something about the relationship between 3 & 6. in my mind, it "feels" as if 3 is the "original" or the singularity of the existence of the number. As three 3's make 9, while three 6's make 18, which can be simplified to 9. In both cases, 6 is a doubling of 3 and 18 is a doubling of 9. Therefore, in order for 6 to "fulfill" it's duties, it must be halved or double. It can never function alone. It is a construct of a multiplication of 3. I think the next example begins to clarify what I see in my mind's eye.

3.) In referencing the above image, if you were to "fold" one of the 1-2-4 or 8-7-5 "legs" in half across the 6 or 3 axis, the resultant numbers become interesting. The 1-8 corners meet at the middle point and become 9. The 2-4 corners become 6 and the 7-5 corners become 3. In essence what this has done is cause the 3 & 6 to flip-flop and create a new 9. I am still trying to figure out if there is any validity to this but as I see this, the flow is still going in the same manner as before, still flowing 1,2,4,8,7,5,1, but now it has doubled on itself and is creating a "field" of 6 & 3 (for lack of better term). This indicates to me that these could be projections or references for the next iteration of the lazy 8, or possibly showing the mirror of themselves, or may be drawing reference lines to the symmetry that extends into the 4th dimension as Marko called it, that determine why the numbers behave as they do, and gives us a 3-D clue to the shape of the 4-D force that underlies it all.

Or it just may be a really cool coincidence....

4.) I think the way this summarizes for me is looking at Walter Russell's cosmology. I know I am going to botch his concept and quote, but in essence he says that Thought extends away from Mind, only to try to return to be balanced at its origin (the One Still Light). Where Thought folds in on itself in this attempt to return is where we have physical manifestation of matter. I think of this like an area rug on hardwood floor, as the dog comes running across the room and tries to turn, the carpet goes slipping in the original direction for the dog, it begins to bunch up or fold in on itself until the dog can get traction to go running the opposite direction.

I see the 3 & 6 being the carriers of this Thought. They exist independently, on the same track, but always in constant flux, always trying to be their "polar" opposites. I think this begins to become apparent in looking at the number sequences of the Toroid map.

In his video, he mentions that the 1-4-7 iterations can be mapped as "on" in one wire, as displayed by yellow diamonds on the toroid. He goes on to explain that these are only ever on in one wire at at time. The second wire was represented by being bound by the thick black lines, and had a 3-9-6-6-9-3 sequence between them (actually barbitones post #22 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=925554&postcount=22) is a good example of this representation of each wire). Coincidentally, for every 9, this shows a corresponding pair of 6's or pair of 3's - each with opposite polarity or charge - as he drew these as + or - . So in showing that all of the 1-4-7 iterations in one wire were on, all the 2-8-5's were off. It was only when the second wire came on that the opposite charged 1-4-7's were "on". What is interesting in this example is it continually leaves out the 2-8-5 (+ or - didnt matter) Family Number Groups. What this expresses to me is the 1-4-7 is our concept of EMF, while the 2-8-5 is BEMF. Both existing simultaneously, both flowing together. This seems to further represent Russell's concept of electricity flowing as a vortex, while the charge and discharge flow simultaneously because of each other. This also further seems to reinforce Leedskalnin's concept that positive and negative charge flow against each other in a screw like pattern.

I believe all of these opposing pairs (+ and -, Charge and Discharge, 1-4-7 and 2-8-5) exist simultaneously because the 3 and 6 binds them in their opposite charged pairs. Since the 3 and 6 only exist in charged pairs around the 9's it seems that their polar opposite is a requirement to make them act singularly. It also seems to further blur the line of what a 6 or 3 really is, and seems to make them be the same number - just manifested at a particular point in time/space as one or the other to perform a specific function.

Anyway, that is enough for now. My final thoughts on all this are how do we make this work? Looking at the toroid map, it is an interesting concept, and I get how the 1-8 is our X axis, and the 4-5 our Y axis, and the 2-7 our Z axis, but I have no idea how this correlates to anything we have in reality. Even in comparing his example of his wires, I am not sure how the skin of a toroid corresponds to determining the desired shape of his coil. This got me to thinking about making my own coil and why the Fisher Price donut toys are used. Even though these are nice Toroid shapes, are they the "optimal" design? What would be the "perfect" curvature of the toroid? Is the slope angle of the toroid and wire ideal? What is the ideal number of strands? What about wire size? How do we take any of this info and project it to make these answers. Rodin is quite confident that this is the key to replacing everything from rotor based motors to flying machines without wings. I cannot even figure out how he determined his coil shape would produce the ideal magnetic field? In one of his radio interviews, he mentioned that Professor Nelson discovered that 4 interconnected Rodin Coils forms a pyramid (field). How does one use this map to determine what we are looking at? How does one determine anything about the toroid that this is even mapped from? What is the size of this toroid? Where is the concentration of magnetic strength represented in this map? How do we know how big the "hole" in the middle of this toroid is? How do we get out of the mathmetical "ideal" and into real world space?

Maybe I am missing something simple - maybe this is much more complex. Anyway, just my thoughts. I am just glad I found an active forum where people are willing to discuss these things, as so much of the information on the net has just completely vanished - including archived copies of web sites - very strange.

[barbitone]

Yippee!!!! :D Someone to talk to!!

Very nice my friend, very nice.

Interesting bit of information you have compiled here Barbitone. It would be nice if you could compile all the threads into a single PDF for distribution and reference. You have some nice images.

I actually cut and pasted all of this from a small booklet I am trying to make for that very purpose of getting it out to people in a (hopefully) easy-to-understand format.

The absolute symmetry of the number system, combined with it's shear simplicity lead me to believe that there is something more going on then mere coincidence, or "unique" circumstance.

Exactly! People always overlook the most simple truths, and over complexify everything. If you just play with the numbers you will see the perfection and the super-symmetry.....

In looking at the symbol of the square lazy 8, that Marko used in his video, a few things become readily apparent. I think the most overwhelming aspect is the role that 3 & 6 play, and their innate duality of opposition.

So, the 3 and 6 always oscillate, they are to be thought of as like north and south poles, they don't touch by definition because if they do they just become 9, the centre.

In looking at the image that Marko drew in the video, he used red and blue lines. Without ever changing the relationship of these lines, both halves of the "8" became mirrored, inversed opposites.

The centre spine down the middle is like a mirror, even though the numbers are different on both sides, they perfectly mirror each-other in function or "number characteristics". This is all easier to see when you start looking at the Torus Skin since it's laid out 2 dimensionally.

I like this quote;
therefore, in order for 6 to "fulfill" it's duties, it must be halved or double. It can never function alone. It is a construct of a multiplication of 3

Here's another interesting way to look at 3 and 6;

Quantity - Each third is 3 in quantity (3 + 3 + 3 = 9 - 1st generation 9)

3 3 3
123 456 789
6 6 6

Quality - Each third is 6 in quality (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - 2nd generation 9)

Quantity + Quality = 9 + 18 = 27
27 = 3 x 9 (3rd generation 9)

There are endless different ways of expressing the perfect symmetry in these numbers.

I have to go to work now, but I'll talk more a.s.a.p.

[maximumgravity1]

Just a quick reply -

I too didn't begin to really grasp this until I ran the numbers. There is much to comment on about the simple multiplication and addition tables - so much symmetry in those, it is hard to believe it was overlooked all this time.

Interesting concept about the three pairs of numbers being Quantity and Quality - definitely some things to ponder.

Regarding the "center" I am beginning to understand this conceptually as the "Bloch wall" - only in a much easier context. It becomes apparent that this is the reversal through which all elements pass. It is this passing through that causes the reversal of polarity, and charge change. It becomes easy to see this is just passing through the center of the vortex. The interesting thing that occurs here is there is an apparent tie in back to the "9" as a rejuvenating force continues to propegate and propel it. I still haven't elucidated this concept fully in my mind, but I am beginning to see it, and believe it is an easy concept.

[schroedingerscat]

I thought of Rodin's numbers when I took this pic; 3's, 6's, and 9's in a wild Ozark garden,
all connected by a single stem.

Flower's local name, 'Star of David'.



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/beehelicopter/369StarofDavid.jpg


Great thread, thanks for putting this together.

[barbitone]

Great thread, thanks for putting this together.

No worries mate.:)

[barbitone]

I see the family number groups being the same as the 3,6,9. This is in response to what you were saying about the two wires alternating for each other on the coil......

Let me try to put it like this;

There is only the "9" in absolution.

Next in line, there is the 3,6 and 9 where the 3 and 6 stand out from the nine expressing 1 as to 2; A third.

Then there are the family number groups 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 and 3,6,9 whereby 3,6,9 stands out and again expresses this 1 as to 2; 369 as to 147 and 258.

I see the 3,6,9 as the "9", and the 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 as the 3 and 6 if ya get my drift.

That's why the 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 oscillate in much the same way as the 3 and 6. They never touch, they are always seperated from each-other.

Even within the two family number groups 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 of these 6 numbers, two of them stand out once again to express that 1 as to 2 thing again. I single out 1&8 from the others; 4&7 and 2&5. So again, here is the 1 as to 2 thing. Why I single those two from the others is that they are the beginning and end numbers; 18 and 81.

And if you look at the torus skin they are together.

There are 4 groups; 1&1, 2&5, 4&7 and 8&8

Here's how they work;

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_83275ef880e6474e9c7a777d207e7cee.jpg

It's quantity and quality.


I believe all of these opposing pairs (+ and -, Charge and Discharge, 1-4-7 and 2-8-5) exist simultaneously because the 3 and 6 binds them in their opposite charged pairs. Since the 3 and 6 only exist in charged pairs around the 9's it seems that their polar opposite is a requirement to make them act singularly. It also seems to further blur the line of what a 6 or 3 really is, and seems to make them be the same number - just manifested at a particular point in time/space as one or the other to perform a specific function.

Nicely said.

I get how the 1-8 is our X axis, and the 4-5 our Y axis, and the 2-7 our Z axis

Do you think you could run this by me, as to why you chose 1&8 as ;X and so forth? Your probably right but I don't get it myself.....

I have noticed that within the Torus Skin, where the lines cross over you will always get a 9 but not just one, you will either get, what I call, a 1st generation 9, 2nd generation 9 or a third generation 9. (9, 18 or 27)

Which is again expressing threes.

That's this pic here, with pink as 9, green as 18 and yellow as 27. (I actually missed some connecting lines...doh! but anyway, doesn't matter)

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_1ef30aabce644490acb327d80bd99ce9.jpg

from one repeating pattern to the next there is, I believe, 2 pinks (9), 6 yellows (27) and 10 greens (18). Which altogether is 18 which is 9.

Side note; (2 x 9 = 18, 9 to the power of 2, (9 x 9) = 81.)

I see many positive applications of this understanding, too many to even start to write about, but one thing that I am seeing clearly is that this is what you could very well call "sacred mathematics", the same way "sacred geometry" is to geometry, this is to mathematics. Simply following the pathways seems to have an effect on consciousness, as does sacred geometry.

Among many things I see it's potential to unite science and spirituality, to mesh the two sided of the brain, to demonstrate the nature of abundance, holism, unity, perfection, infinity, harmony etc etc.....

That's why nobody know about it. :rolleyes:

[barbitone]

Maybe I am missing something simple - maybe this is much more complex. Anyway, just my thoughts. I am just glad I found an active forum where people are willing to discuss these things, as so much of the information on the net has just completely vanished - including archived copies of web sites - very strange.

I can answer this one; I emailed Marko and he told me that he took down all of his sites because he is compiling a massive load of info at the moment in which he will off-load on us down the track. I'm excited! :D

[_invisibleplane_]

great thread.

has anyone attempted to construct a rodin coil in hope of utilizing it in an electric circuit?

[barbitone]

There's this guy but I don't how well it's done.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8jsRmxAzo

It looks to me that he hasn't allowed enough space, there should be a perfect one third gap for the aetheron flux field. And there are specific ways to pulse the two wires; Rodin calls it "pulse direct current".

[barbitone]

Check this out! The fibonacci sequence;

#, Full Value, Decimal Parity Value

1 1 1
2 1 1
3 2 2
4 3 3
5 5 5
6 8 8
7 13 4
8 21 3
9 34 7
10 55 1
11 89 8
12 144 9

13 233 8
14 377 8
15 610 7
16 987 6
17 1597 4
18 2584 1
19 4181 5
20 6765 6
21 10946 2
22 17711 8
23 28657 1
24 46368 9

25 75025 1
26 121393 1
27 196418 2
28 317811 3
29 514229 5
30 832040 8
31 1346269 4
32 2178309 3
33 3524578 7
34 5702887 1
35 9227465 8
36 14930352 9

37 24157817 8
38 39088169 8
39 63245986 7
40 102334155 6
41 165580141 4
42 267914296 1
43 433494437 5
44 701408733 6
45 1134903170 2
46 1836311903 8
47 2971215073 1
48 4807526976 9

It repeats fully in lots of 24 or half in 12!

It's more obvious if I re-number the positions by 12's. (btw, 12 is a second generation 3)

Just match the positions and observe the symmetry around 9 once more...

1 1 1
2 1 1
3 2 2
4 3 3
5 5 5
6 8 8
7 13 4
8 21 3
9 34 7
10 55 1
11 89 8
12 144 9

1 233 8
2 377 8
3 610 7
4 987 6
5 1597 5
6 2584 1
7 4181 5
8 6765 6
9 10946 2
10 17711 8
11 28657 1
12 46368 9
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
1 75025 1
2 121393 1
3 196418 2
4 317811 3
5 514229 5
6 832040 8
7 1346269 4
8 2178309 3
9 3524578 7
10 5702887 1
11 9227465 8
12 14930352 9

1 24157817 8
2 39088169 8
3 63245986 7
4 102334155 6
5 165580141 4
6 267914296 1
7 433494437 5
8 701408733 6
9 1134903170 2
10 1836311903 8
11 2971215073 1
12 4807526976 9

:D

It's hard to display in this forum setting but hopefully you can see what I am doing here.

The decimal parity reveals the harmonics and the harmonics repeat every 24 positions.

[barbitone]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_10a3a858bca543de99acbb35f2c502c5.jpg



(Ignore the wierd horizontal line groupings that's just an error resulting from trying to get this done too quickly so that I could show you better)

[barbitone]

Notice the centre numbers of the first 12; position 6 and position 7, are 8 and 4 and the centre numbers of the next 12; position 18 and 19, are 1 and 5

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/71/l_dc59e44db97345a4b0c58d9f637047ab.jpg

:D

[barbitone]

......and guess where the phi ratio is found...... take the last Fibonacci number of 24 and the 1st number in the next section of 24 and divide the last with the first;

46368 divided by 75025 = 0.618033988.......

Or the next 24 position scale;

4807526976 divided by 7778742049 = 0.618033988........

If I replace the numbers with their compressed versions you have 9 divided by 1 = 9 therefore Phi = 9 :D

:D

You'll also notice that in the first group of 12 there are 2 threes and no sixes. And in the next 12, to make 24, there are 2 sixes and no threes.

And of course 12 is 3 and 24 is 6.

Now, if you add up all of the compressed numbers, from position 1 to 12, you have = 52 which equals 7
And if you add the next 12 up, positions 13 to 24, you have = 65 which equals 11 which is 2

2 & 7 = 9

[maximumgravity1]

I thought of Rodin's numbers when I took this pic; 3's, 6's, and 9's in a wild Ozark garden,
all connected by a single stem.

Flower's local name, 'Star of David'.



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/beehelicopter/369StarofDavid.jpg


Great thread, thanks for putting this together.

I think this is just one of the underscoring realizations that this is correct. We see it echoed in nature almost everywhere we look. All across the web, I have seen many corelations between the Golden Mean, The Fibonacci Spiral, the vortex, etc that shows these concepts to be real and not "imaginary numbers". I think what is interesting is that if we really start trying to see the 3, 6 and 9 in nature, it might give us a better appreciation of what surrounds us, and a better clue as to the "reality" that these numbers and sequences show us.

Rodin himself stated that the 9 is the centering force - "linearity creates 3-D. In other words when the ivy vines are crawling in the jungle and everything is warped and curved, they have to have a substrate, they have to have something linear to wrap around, which is the tree limbs." I think this is a fundamental truth of the path of nature. We see this in so many things - even things that we can't instantly visualize - like these flowers. Everything is manifesting in 6's - 6 petals, 6 pistils, 6 inner petals, 3 parts of the flower that make the whole, etc. All fed by one unifying stem. Interesting that you captured three of these together.

[maximumgravity1]

great thread.

has anyone attempted to construct a rodin coil in hope of utilizing it in an electric circuit?


I agree with barbitones comments - this just doesn't feel symmetrical enough for me. In seeing the prototype coils that Rodin put together, and some of the coils on overunity.com I tend to feel this guy on youtube has maybe too many strands. I believe he said he wrapped two coils, one with 27 winds, and one with 18. Both multiples of 9 (he may have said 3). My personal belief is that 9 would have been sufficient, and may "feel" more symmetrical. I am in the process of gathering my materials. We moved some rooms around for winter, and I have misplaced my spools of wire. As soon as I find them, I will wind a few to see what I can find.

As for applications, I personally believe these will not be used in standard ways. Marko indicated that they are being used for antennae and AC applications, but since these tend to be field generators, I think it will require new thoughts to harness their power and apply them properly.

However, hasn't it been a misnomer for years that the power is in the wire, when in reality it is in the field anyway? But I suppose if someone is to rewrite their underlying principles of how and why things work, it should come as a given that the applications they produce will work in different manners anyway. Truly the paragon of "thinking outside of the box".

[maximumgravity1]

There is only the "9" in absolution.

Next in line, there is the 3,6 and 9 where the 3 and 6 stand out from the nine expressing 1 as to 2; A third.

Then there are the family number groups 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 and 3,6,9 whereby 3,6,9 stands out and again expresses this 1 as to 2; 369 as to 147 and 258.

I see the 3,6,9 as the "9", and the 1,4,7 and 2,5,8 as the 3 and 6 if ya get my drift.

yes I do, and this is a great reduction of the concept of "expressing 1 as to 2; a third." I think this is ultimately going to be one of the keys to understanding the universe. A simple inane fact that everything operates in 3's, even if it appears to only be a binary.



Do you think you could run this by me, as to why you chose 1&8 as ;X and so forth? Your probably right but I don't get it myself.....

Well, I didn't actually choose it, Marko did. He stated this in the video - but it was fleeting as he kept getting interrupted by sidelining, off-topic questions. He stated that the 1-8 was the X axis, 4-5 Y, and 2-7 as the Z. He showed this a bit in his big chart. Since the diamonds are drawn on a horizontal and vertical axis, while the entire chart itself is angled, it makes it easy to see the 1-8 as the X axis. Flow out the top or bottom points of the diamond, and move for your X axis. Come out the left or right points for the Y axis and the Z of course moves vertically through the the three dimensional toroid. I think this is even easier to understand if you look at this as a map with coordinates. If looking at a map, we always need X & Y to find a single location - these combined make our "run" when we are plotting a vector in 3-D. We can move one unit forward (X) and 5 units right (Y). Then our "rise" is our Z axis - by ascending in the toroid 4 units.

The part I have not fully understood yet is how we apply this information. What actually is a "unit" how do we apply voltage to this with understanding. How do we project these coordinates backward to find where our wire really is? How do we project them forward to find out how far away from the coil the toroid extends? It is possible that this the representation of the toroid right on the surface of the wire - but it should be applicable that we can find where the bounding layers of the toroid field extend. Marko also mentioned that a (geologist I believe) saw this and instantly understood. In a radio interview, he stated that someone realized that this was able to map and calculate the inside of the toroid, and everything through the toroid. Again, Maybe it is beyond me, as I am not very learned in those areas, but I would believe that this would reduce this concept to simplistic math and concepts that most anyone with a primary school education could understand.



I have noticed that within the Torus Skin, where the lines cross over you will always get a 9 but not just one, you will either get, what I call, a 1st generation 9, 2nd generation 9 or a third generation 9. (9, 18 or 27)

Which is again expressing threes.

That's this pic here, with pink as 9, green as 18 and yellow as 27. (I actually missed some connecting lines...doh! but anyway, doesn't matter)

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_1ef30aabce644490acb327d80bd99ce9.jpg

from one repeating pattern to the next there is, I believe, 2 pinks (9), 6 yellows (27) and 10 greens (18). Which altogether is 18 which is 9.

This is interesting, but I am not really sure what you are expressing here. When you say "when the lines cross over" I am not sure what you are referencing. I think there is something to the "generations" as from what I can gather, these are iterations of the same phenomenon, just at different points. This further may be an indication of how to "navigate" this toroid map.



I see many positive applications of this understanding, too many to even start to write about, but one thing that I am seeing clearly is that this is what you could very well call "sacred mathematics", the same way "sacred geometry" is to geometry, this is to mathematics. Simply following the pathways seems to have an effect on consciousness, as does sacred geometry.

Among many things I see it's potential to unite science and spirituality, to mesh the two sided of the brain, to demonstrate the nature of abundance, holism, unity, perfection, infinity, harmony etc etc.....

That's why nobody know about it. :rolleyes:

I am with you on this. The concept of "sacred mathematics" seems to fit very well. As unfortunate as it is to some people, I believe that before any real advances can go forward, people are going to have to acknowledge a higher consciousness. I think the beauty of this is that avoids all religious precepts. I think most every segment of consciousness out there acknowledges that we are all a collective part of a larger whole. Even atheists would have to acknowledge that there is a unifying quality of "energy" that binds us all. And if open minded, would have to acknowledge that there is "something" to extra-physical phenomenon - everything from basic consciousness and self-awareness, to emotions, and more bizarre phenomena that fall into the realm of ESP, telekinesis and other areas that defy explanation. Of course there is an entire world of exploration in between these two extremes, but I believe that until the scientific world can think outside of its limitations, it will forever be stagnant and held captive. Don't get me wrong, there has been many thousands of "miraculous" advancements in the world of science, but I always feel as if they are playing in their won little sandbox of the universe. All of the theorem's, rules, postulates, laws and models they create pertain only to their sandbox. They are limited in that they can't achieve what has been shown through history of the 19th and 20th centuries, when the rare "odd-ball" mad scientist does things that "can't be done". Even in looking at some of Tesla's work, so many electrical engineers will explain why his fundamentals are flawed - even though they don't understand what he was doing. If they did, they would be duplicating his works.


But I do believe that focusing on these concepts does change your awareness. I believe that focusing on higher concepts raises your consciousness to a higher level, and allows thoughts to operate at that elevated level. I was watching a movie on a Bedini Electrical charging system, and one of the points he commented about was in charging dead batteries. HE explained that they weren't really dead, but rather that a layer of carbon had built up on the plates, and that as these batteries begin to take a charge from his new power source - that is clean, and cold - it begins to "decarbonize" the plates, and after a while, the cells can take a charge faster, and more efficiently. A friend of mine explained this as the same process with our brains. There is a certain "decarbonizing" effect that must take place, for us to chip away at the layers of misinformation and deception, and break through before we can begin to understand and clearly see the "new energy".

Anyway, enough rambling on that, I wanted to get onto your other topic about the Fibonacci sequences, but need to create some graphics first.

[maximumgravity1]

OK, so I got looking at your Fibonacci Sequences, and I started to see some very interesting patterns emerging....and this is leading me into some weird places ATM. I think I am beginning to understand the mapping idea, but still not there - I rally need a 3-D modeling program to do it properly, but am struggling through without - more on that later. If nothing else, I will post my thoughts, and let some one far more mathematically inclined take it from there.

Anyway, regarding the concept of the Fibonacci 12's. This is an interesting concept, and I think worth exploring further. What I did was take your sequences, and paired them up in the logical way that I see.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3460056278_a7df0a7937_o.jpg

As can be seen, this immediately pairs up the opposite number groups. I have a feeling there is something unique going on with this, because we have almost mirror opposites going vertically as well as horizontally. The 9's are bizarre in this sequence at position 12, but this is very reminiscent of doing the multiplication table. When looking at the simplified multiplication table, there is a bounding box of 9's all around the last row, and the 8's tables is a reverse mirror image of the 1-9 sequence. This makes me feel that there should be a surrounding set of 9's in place of where we would write 0's on the outer perimeter. I get a similar feeling with this sequence. The 9's seem like a bounding box.

So if we discard the 12 row, we can begin to see 1 & 11 are reciprocals. in my mind I am sensing there is something with "charge" or "invisible inverses" ( something not in our dimension, but existing in the 4th possibly?) and this is further echoed by the 2-10 sequences, which show the same pair, but in opposite "charge" from the 1-11. Anyway, the remaining pairs are mirror opposites through their paired sequences (i.e. 3-9 are polar pairs of 2,7 and 7,2). This is not quite the case in the 4-8 pairing and the 6 sequence also stands alone. Of interest with the 4-8 pairs, they keep the same polar orientation in relation to each other. This makes me believe that the concept of the 3, 6 is falling just as it does in the toroid map in that it goes 3,9,6,6,9,3, but what we are seeing in this pair, is much like Marko showed with the "mirror opposites of the right and left hand pressed palms together. The thumbs are out of sequence, and allow for the mirroring to occur as viewed from either side of the back of the hands. I believe the polar opposite of the -3, -6 are being mirrored here to keep the sequence flowing in "normal" progression.

One thing I question about trying to read too much into this series of sequences though is that we have invalidated the base 9 (or is it base 8 - whatever???) series, and allowed a 10, 11, and 12. This is causing two things to occur, are pairs are lining up in pairs - not in threes. And we aren't seeming to continue the sequence, but rather binding it by the bounding box that the 9's make. I will play with this a bit further before tying to offer a suggestion that I see forming in my mind. It may just be nothing, and may be a mere coincidence. In either case, I do find this series extremely interesting.

One last thing before closing out here, one of the ways I see this system as a series of coordinates working is in playing with the 3-6-9 values as rotational values. it might be garbage, but it is interesting that a 360º circle can be divided equally into three parts of 120º arc angle segments each. These coincidentally always reduce to 3, 6 or 9 when halved, and are equally divisible and multipliable by 3. Even when divided by 3, we end up with three 40º segments. This leads me further down the rabbit hole thinking that since we end up with 4 - we have gotten back to a real "number" in that it is back on our "lazy 8", and part of our 1-4-7 - coincidentally in the middle. Since we can think of the 4-5 pair as our Y axis, this seems to indicate an angular movement away from the current point in space when the 3 or 6 occurred. I don't know, I am still thinking through this stuff, and haven't formulated a complete opinion yet. It does begin to make it clear that the 3 & 6 are the rails on which the 9 rides. The 9 being the Spirit - or overseeing thought - the 3 & 6 seem to project the "blueprints" into our dimension to keep everything aligning with the overall design. I also see this as the point where the 3 and 6 cause matter to reverse, going through the vortex hole so to speak, and believe it is at these points that the aether energy (unlimited potential, ZPE, whatever) is tapped, and would be manifested in our dimension. Because in "reality" as I see it, that is where the 9 is leaking through into this plane.

But whatever, all speculation at this point, and just fanciful dreaming to try to explain it away. Enough rambling for now, back to trying to figure this out for further explanation.

[maximumgravity1]

Last one for a bit I think....

I reran the Fibonacci Sequence reordered to only 9's, but kept your simplified numbers. Some very interesting patterns emerge. I broke these into groups of three, and separated out a sequence that broke the mirroring. I am not sure what this indicates, but it is interesting that it is the 4th groups. Based on the sequence of 12, this is the odd ball grouping. It does make me think there is something more going on with angular momentum, as mentioned above, the 120º reduces to 40º - which is 4. I am going to play with some numbers on this, as this seems to have some interesting correlations.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3459590221_9648192290_o.jpg

In looking at the patterns that emerge in this sequence, there is tons of repetition everywhere. Interestingly, the repetitions only seem to flow in one direction. There are a few exceptions, but there seems to be many mirrors in going predominately only one direction.

I had to stop this thread in mid-thought to recreate the sequence with different coloring. I think if this sequence was extended out for quite some distance, there would be some repetitions. I have a feeling this would equate to a full "swirl" of the Fibonacci Spiral.

Here is the modified sequence:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/3460515204_c865407392_o.jpg

I tried to highlight some various elements, but the colors are probably a bit hard to discern. The first series of patterns in the first column is the red number patterns (1-1-5, 3-8-8, 4-6-1). These can be seen echoed all through the grid, most of them are offset and cross multiple grids. However, they seem to stay in nice convenient 3X3 patterns. Follow the 1-1-5 sequence down the first column and see it starting at row 7. The following two number groups are in sequence with it - even though it is offset by 2 numbers and spans two columns.
The same sequence can be seen going vertically too. Look at the 1st 3X3 grid again, and trace the number patterns 1-1-2, 1-8-9, 5-6-2 all through the grid at the same sequence.

Anyway, lots of interest in this grid, and I think if it were extended out until ti repeats it would be interesting to see what exactly we are looking at. I may play with this, but this is getting off topic of what I was working on, so I may not play with this much further. This is definitely full of symmetry, and can be seen in almost every facet of this. I think this further emphasis the perfection of this sequence and shape, and converted to Marko's Vortex Math system, really provides some credibility for both systems.

[maximumgravity1]

It wouldn't be complete if I didn't close out the page with this image. This is the same fibonacci sequence rotated at a 45º and expanded past the groupings of 9 for clarity. The same way Rodin did in his video:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3460653467_b548f2238f_o.jpg

some very interesting patterns emerge.

3-6-9 seems to oscillate between 3-6-9 and 9-6-3. It comes as mirrored pairs once the second string of 1's is reached. But this also matches 7-4-1 vs 1-4-7 and 2-8-5 vs 5-8-2.

1's and 8's seem to have a "thing" in this grid

Lastly, two very interesting patterns emerge. I have done no math calculations on these sequences yet, but it poses an interesting "fractal" as there is very limited number combinations in this sequence - they just shift and repeat.

1st sequence:

6 3 9
8 8 8
6 9 3
1 1 1
9 6 3
8 8 8
3 6 6

This sequence is read vertically. These are the possible vertical sequences coming off of the 1's

Second sequence - technically is a vertical sequence, but easier to typer horizontally:
8-1-7-5-5-7-1-8-2-4-4-2
This is the sequence between the 1's, before it repeats.

It's getting late, and my mind is fuzzing because of being at this for so long, but the pattern is quite apparent
4-2-8-1-7-5 then mirrored to 5-7-1-8-2-4 - strung together as
4-2-8-1-7-5-5-7-1-8-2-4

There are a few curiosities about this entire grid as the 9's are not surrounded by repeating 3's and 6's. I am sure that means something, but I have no idea what.

Lastly, the colors I used were really for assistance in creating the grids as it helped me keep visual boundaries with 1's and 8's. I colored the 3-6-9 green just because it matched the original video.

Anyway, enough for today.

[barbitone]

This is interesting, but I am not really sure what you are expressing here. When you say "when the lines cross over" I am not sure what you are referencing. I think there is something to the "generations" as from what I can gather, these are iterations of the same phenomenon, just at different points. This further may be an indication of how to "navigate" this toroid map.

It's very, very simple. Take any square group of 4 numbers on the torus skin and add them together, you will get either a 9, 18 or 27. Where the lines cross over is where this number is. I made the 9s pink, the 18's green and the 27's yellow.

[barbitone]

I am with you on this. The concept of "sacred mathematics" seems to fit very well. As unfortunate as it is to some people, I believe that before any real advances can go forward, people are going to have to acknowledge a higher consciousness. I think the beauty of this is that avoids all religious precepts. I think most every segment of consciousness out there acknowledges that we are all a collective part of a larger whole. Even atheists would have to acknowledge that there is a unifying quality of "energy" that binds us all. And if open minded, would have to acknowledge that there is "something" to extra-physical phenomenon - everything from basic consciousness and self-awareness, to emotions, and more bizarre phenomena that fall into the realm of ESP, telekinesis and other areas that defy explanation. Of course there is an entire world of exploration in between these two extremes, but I believe that until the scientific world can think outside of its limitations, it will forever be stagnant and held captive. Don't get me wrong, there has been many thousands of "miraculous" advancements in the world of science, but I always feel as if they are playing in their won little sandbox of the universe. All of the theorem's, rules, postulates, laws and models they create pertain only to their sandbox. They are limited in that they can't achieve what has been shown through history of the 19th and 20th centuries, when the rare "odd-ball" mad scientist does things that "can't be done". Even in looking at some of Tesla's work, so many electrical engineers will explain why his fundamentals are flawed - even though they don't understand what he was doing. If they did, they would be duplicating his works.


But I do believe that focusing on these concepts does change your awareness. I believe that focusing on higher concepts raises your consciousness to a higher level, and allows thoughts to operate at that elevated level. I was watching a movie on a Bedini Electrical charging system, and one of the points he commented about was in charging dead batteries. HE explained that they weren't really dead, but rather that a layer of carbon had built up on the plates, and that as these batteries begin to take a charge from his new power source - that is clean, and cold - it begins to "decarbonize" the plates, and after a while, the cells can take a charge faster, and more efficiently. A friend of mine explained this as the same process with our brains. There is a certain "decarbonizing" effect that must take place, for us to chip away at the layers of misinformation and deception, and break through before we can begin to understand and clearly see the "new energy".

Very nicely put. I agree.

[barbitone]

I like all the work you have put into the fibonacci numbers, thanks for that. But I know that once I see the mirroring pattern I know that you can compare the numbers to themselves in all kinds of ways and get patterns, it's a matter of course.

What I though was interesting is that when you divide one number by the next in line you approach phi but you only get "true" phi when you divide the last number of a series of 24 by the first number in the next series of 24.

I like to keep everything as simple as possible.

I like your first graphic as it it shows the mirroring better.

When you compare the number to themselves by rowing them in 9, you reveal the 3 and 6 oscillation better......

The big fibonacci skin you made up is nice, but I am not sure what good it does just yet..... I too have run into the 1 and 8 as standing out for some reason and all I can think of is that they represent the begining and end of the mirroring; 18 and 81. Which is a square 9 and a power of 9.

It's interesting on your second graphic, comparing the numbers to themselves by nines instead of twelves, that it repeates after 8 vertical rows.
You have 9 down and 8 across until it repeats. (8 x 9 = 81)

There are many patterns in this but lets try not to scare people off by overcomplexifying.... :D

[barbitone]

It wouldn't be complete if I didn't close out the page with this image. This is the same fibonacci sequence rotated at a 45º and expanded past the groupings of 9 for clarity. The same way Rodin did in his video:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3460653467_b548f2238f_o.jpg

some very interesting patterns emerge.



The first thing that sticks out at me is that the family number groups line up horizonatally.

solid eights (8888888888888)
1,4,7,1,4,7,1,4,7......
6,9,3,6,9,3,6,9,3......
1,7,4,1,7,4,1,7,4......
then seperated by solid ones (11111111111111)
8,5,2,8,5,2,8,5,2......
9,6,3,9,6,3,9,6,3......
5,8,2,5,8,2,5,8,2......
then we are back to the beginning.

And just like the rodin skin, only one and eight appear twice on the diagonal, no other numbers appear twice in a row diagonally.

[barbitone]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3460056278_a7df0a7937_o.jpg



The 3 and 6 always appear on the 4th or 8th position as you have pointed out. The significance from the point of view of the rodin dial is that that is where you cross the center, from 4 you cross the spirit line to get to 8.

[danster82]

Very nice write up be sure to post this about on other sites and forums.

I see all the patterns and its clearly something special here which is unrecognised by science and even most religions and spiritual movements.

What I really want to see is just one example of how to actually use this knowledge practically, doesnt matter how simple the idea it might be if you code html like this it will increase performance by 90% or if you tweak you design motor engines with 3 of these 6 of these and 9 of these fuel consumption drops by 90% or something.

I want to see an application of some sort I dont deny there is not somthing going on but how to utilise it beyond just seeing patterns and symmetry.

[barbitone]

Is the coil winding not good enough?

I would say, let's understand this first, then we will be able to apply it in many ways. If an electrical engineer understood this they would have applications in electrical avenues, if a computer programmer understood this they would have ideas for applications in programming etc......

I am a spiritual\metaphysics person and I see the potentials for spiritual metaphor and philosophy.

Instead of giving you less fuel consumption if you apply these number etc like you suggested, it's not like that, it's more like getting rid of petrol altogether.

All new program codeing, wingless flight, completely new motors etc......

It's like an all or nothing scenario, know what I mean?

But first people have to know about it and then they need to understand it and only then can we put it to use in terms of technology etc....

What this stuff really is, is the foundations of an entirely new way of doing EVERYTHING.

[maximumgravity1]

Very nice write up be sure to post this about on other sites and forums.

I see all the patterns and its clearly something special here which is unrecognised by science and even most religions and spiritual movements.

...

I want to see an application of some sort I dont deny there is not somthing going on but how to utilise it beyond just seeing patterns and symmetry.


Hey Danster, I agree with you. I feel at this stage, for me personally, I am back in elementary school. When I first started learning multiplication, my teacher had these cubes made up of small beads and wire. Each face of the cube had 10 beads on it, and the 6 faces all linked together. She had bigger ones that had 100 beads as well.

It is one of those silly tactile/visual things that has stuck with me, and I remember their sound, texture and ugly color (they must have been beads in a discount bin). But I remember the feeling I had when I first started looking at these things. I could in no way make sense of what was trying to be conveyed. I thought they were interesting and cool, but it wasn't for some time that I learned to unlock the counting of the perimeter row by perimeter height that I began to realize that there was some "magic" in multiplication.

Right now, I correlate that experience to what is going on with these models. There is something there, no doubt. Just what - I have no idea. I know there must be a way to manipulate this info into something useful, it is just a matter of unlocking the "legend" to figure out how to make the map readable.

However, because the basis of this is quite simple, I believe the answer will be quite simple. I believe also that it will revolutionize all areas of math and science fields. Just have to walk before we can run.

On a final note, not sure if you caught in one of the prior threads, one of the people working on this with Marko discovered that 4 interconnected (whatever that means?) Rodin coils forms a pyramid (field I assume). Marko commented on the number sequence and said that mathematically the capstone should have been 2, but in reality it came out to be 1, and something they couldn't understand.

So I think once people begin to discover the practical applications of this, and figure out how to manipulate the data, there will be some significant strides forward.

[maximumgravity1]

...There are many patterns in this but lets try not to scare people off by overcomplexifying.... :D


Yeah, one of my biggest concerns with this. I didn't intend to spend so much time messing with the Fibonacci sequence, but it is a fundamental truth in nature, so there must be something to it. From that standpoint, there is some merit in working with it - but I agree - I have no idea of what use any of these charts have provided.

However, I think something positive came from this work. I went back to the toroid skin charts trying to understand what was going on with all of this. Some very relevant things began to stand out.

http://www.geocities.com/salvi1740@sbcglobal.net/toroid_color.gif

1.) Maybe easily understood by others, but I missed this. If you pick one plane of the toroid which is basically represented by any series of connected diamonds touching left corner to right corner in a single line around the entire circumference, it makes an intriguing pattern. The series is always every third number is 1-4-7, 2-8-5 or 3-6-9. These go either forward or backward, but never anything else. They never change, and it is consistent throughout any plane of the toroid. This seems to correlate nicely with the 3-6-9 repetition that was found in the Fibonacci sequence. The 9 is not surrounded by duplicate 3's and 6's.

2.) There are some simplistic patterns that begin to emerge when adding numbers across these above mentioned "axes".

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_0f5ff6e4dc9c4cf18c414e52896850e5.jpg

(I just deleted what I had typed as I made this connection when looking at the grid for an example, it all clicked). This is the key to the X Axis being 1,8 and the Y axis 4,5. If you chose any number and add 1 or 8 to it, you will find that sequence in the diamond above or below it. The "charge" seems to indicate whether you move toward the center of the toroid hole, or to the outside. Likewise, any number that you add 4 or 5 to will move you left or right around the toroid in the same plane. Charge determines which direction. Interestingly, both of these numbers are intrinsically coded to the charge of the original number. For example, the "1" always falls to the "inside" of the number if it is negative, and the 8 falls to the "outside" of the toroid - this is opposite for positive charged numbers.

The Z Axis 2,7 seems to be working in my mind, but I will have to play with the numbers to be sure. You can move on the same toroidal plane diagonally with the 2,7. Something just became clear, and maybe a further tie in to the 3 and 6, the "right hand" family number groups (1,4,7) cause the movement on "-" charged numbers to move inward and left, while the "left hand" Family number group cause movement outward and to the right on "+" charged numbers. I can't explain this yet, but believe the 3 and 6 go back to that "doubling" concept we discussed previously. Since moving a "single" unit (possibly the 3) would cause a movement in the direction of the OPPOSITE charge (+ - + -), a doubling of a unit (the 6) would move in the direction of the SAME charge (+ + + +). Since the 2,8,5 family group falls into the 6 plane, and the 1,4,7 falls into the 3's plane, this kind of makes sense in my mind. The doubling of the 6 is adding the opposite charge (unseen) and allowing us to move to the same charge.

Further, I believe this Z Axis will work in 3-D movement as well. I believe if we take a +1, and want to move "up" to the next layer of the toroid, we have to add 7, which will give us an 8 - but it must be negative, otherwise it couldn't be touching the +1. Conversely, a 2 would move us "down" to a -3 on the "layer" beneath this one. This is an interesting behavior, as the toroid is never on he same plane as it is curved, so I believe moving a "standard" 7,2 within the same plane, is still moving us physically up and down across the skin of the toroid. But it works in duality of letting us step into the next "layer".

Interestingly, and not too surprisingly, this doesn't work on the Fibonacci grid. I think in part that is because the Fibonacci grid is based on a theoretical single plane concept, and not on a true three dimensional element.

Anyway, enough for now, time to play with this info a bit. Now that it is clear how to navigate the map, have to figure out what to do with it....

[barbitone]

I hope I'm not just stating the obvious here, but it is impotant enough to mention anyway. If you haven't seen Nassim Harameins work on the unified field and the structure of the vacuum etc then go no furthur with this until you are to speed with his findings. It is imperitave!

I see Nassims work as the geometry side and Markos as the mathematical side.
And both of them correlate perfectly with spiritual and philosophical implications.

I have the link to the thread about Nassim in my signiture.

[barbitone]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_0f5ff6e4dc9c4cf18c414e52896850e5.jpg

The horizontal numbers are always 1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9,5....

Because you could say doubling is the same as multiplying by 2, and 2's mirror in terms of function is 5 (doubling=2, halfing =5) these numbers are moving in multiples of 5; 1 x 5 = 5, 2 x 5 = 10 =1, 3 x 5 = 15 = 6 etc....

[danster82]

Is the coil winding not good enough?

I would say, let's understand this first, then we will be able to apply it in many ways. If an electrical engineer understood this they would have applications in electrical avenues, if a computer programmer understood this they would have ideas for applications in programming etc......

I am a spiritual\metaphysics person and I see the potentials for spiritual metaphor and philosophy.

Instead of giving you less fuel consumption if you apply these number etc like you suggested, it's not like that, it's more like getting rid of petrol altogether.

All new program codeing, wingless flight, completely new motors etc......

It's like an all or nothing scenario, know what I mean?

But first people have to know about it and then they need to understand it and only then can we put it to use in terms of technology etc....

What this stuff really is, is the foundations of an entirely new way of doing EVERYTHING.

I do understand but these are very advanced examples of applications and if when its possible to make such advanced applications that means its even easier to make extremely simple applications of the same technology. and so it would be interesting to see an extremely simple example of an application could be anything could be improving how to make a cup of tea whatever. Most people cannot see practicality behind such stuff so a simple practice demonstration would work wonders, what the application is is irrelevant the purpose would only be to show that it does infact "work"

Whenever I am teaching someone I tend to explain what it is and then immediately after provide an example that I know they can relate to, its only at that point that what was previous explaining will click. A bit like yin yan theory is yin then you give the example Yan.

[barbitone]

I do understand but these are very advanced examples of applications and if when its possible to make such advanced applications that means its even easier to make extremely simple applications of the same technology. and so it would be interesting to see an extremely simple example of an application could be anything could be improving how to make a cup of tea whatever. Most people cannot see practicality behind such stuff so a simple practice demonstration would work wonders, what the application is is irrelevant the purpose would only be to show that it does infact "work"

Whenever I am teaching someone I tend to explain what it is and then immediately after provide an example that I know they can relate to, its only at that point that what was previous explaining will click. A bit like yin yan theory is yin then you give the example Yan.

:confused:

You want me to explain how I can use this knowledge to make a better cup of tea? errrrrr... you've stumped me!

I think you should actually do some work with the numbers first. Copy the dial and the torus skin pics to your computer and then print them out, get yourself 3 different colored highlighters and start trying to understand it.

[maximumgravity1]

I found the file of the pyramid info that Professor Scot Nelson had talked about (actually it was uploaded to a Yahoo groups file on the Rodin Cell). Although I don't agree with the findings as presented, I do believe there is some pretty amazing geometry going on with the pyramid, and it begins to explain so many of the "energy" properties that the pyramid contains. Since I have no idea how to attach files to threads (if this board even allows it) I will have to try to surmise the concept.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_0f5ff6e4dc9c4cf18c414e52896850e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/3468462136_983feb3719_o.jpg

In short, this is the culmination of his findings. The big grid obviously represents the view of the pyramid from the top down. The symbol that he used as the "Seal of Solomon" is how he derived his findings. In short, the symbol came from the book "The Keys of Enoch" by J.J. Hurtak which had a number sequence across the top of the symbol as 1.3.1 and across the bottom as 9.1.9 with the 9's interchanging with 1's.
Aside from this, the interesting thing is that the numbers of the toroid grid align perfectly with the pyramid faces, and the diagonals of the pyramid aligning perfectly with only the vertical and horizontal lines through the grid.
The area I have a hard time with is calling the capstone 1. By every conceivable possibility that I see, it is definitely a 2. However, I think there is some validity to these findings as I believe the cap stone is missing from the Great Pyramid for a reason. The interesting part is that the diagonals of the pyramid are not physical properties anyway - a corner (whether inside or outside) is not really a physical object - it is an intersection. The manifestation of these numbers outside the edges of the pyramid makes more sense to me then the actual pyramid face itself. My personal thought is that the angles of the pyramid mark a boundary line so that 4 other pyramids could all touch at the apex of the Great Pyramid (for a total of 5) with each face in contact with one face of the other 4. This would create a very specific energy point at the apex, that would most likely manifest in this dimension. I believe if you take the image in the book, assume the diamond is the base of the pyramid, and the remaining pyramids make the sides of the other 4 pyramids, when they are folded along the base line of the pyramid, you are getting closer tothe interpretation of this symbol. Anyway, getting off track....

Check the numbers. There are no exceptions or mistakes. I think of interest, the numbers near the top start to create some interesting patterns, especially with the 3-9-6 and the 5. I think this is approaching the true "squaring of the circle".

[barbitone]

So you've sort've got like 2 mirrors intersecting making 4 sections and making "edges"....it's a very nice grid.:)

The first 3 x 3 grid in the center comes to a 27. (3 x 9 = 27)
The edges all mirror into the center.
I like, I ike.:D

[barbitone]

Ther first 9 square root numbers ;
1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81

Decimal Parity ;
1,4,9,7,7,9,4,1,9

Notice it octaves at position 8. Then back to 9.
(64 (8x8) = square , 9 = circle)

1,4,9,7 | 7,9,4,1 9

And it's mirror symmetry between ths sevens (16 and 25, which has a difference of 9)

[maximumgravity1]

I've been playing with a few things on this, and I am begining to see some logic in the coil itself. I have a few thoughts of some more things I am playing with this pyramid grid. One thing that bothered me is in Profesor Nelson's comments (and the book itself) he stated that the 9 fluctuated between 1 and 9. I know this may be a minor topic to get hung up on, as this is someone's conjecture, however, it has bugged me that as this stands, the 1 and 9 are fixed, no fluctuation no mater how you slice it. I am finding something that I think may make this possible.

On a nother note, Marko went to great lengths to explain that the coil makes three revolutions before it intersects at 90°. I have been pondering this since I watched this the first time, and it is begining to make sense why this relevant. I know Tesla has several patents where he forces the charges to flow through the circuits at 90° offsets also. I don't have my thoughts on this solidified, so for now, will leave it semi-ambiguous. However the similarities between this and Tesla's devices seem to be in the manipulation of the fields themselves, not so much the circuit. In both cases, just an ends to a means.

More later on both of these, hopefully with some new graphics to play with.

Intersting thoughts on the square roots. Thre may be some more discovery yet to play with in those areas. Of interest, I noticed the "octave at position 8" thing on the multiplication table too (I may have mentioned this before - too many threads and thoughts to keep track of). Its interesting that these numbers do not line up onthe toroid anywhere. Me thinks 'tis a bit of clue to think 3 Dimensionally

[barbitone]

Hey max, check this out. This is the fibonacci sequence starting from all numbers one to nine. You'll notice I start with zero which is the way it really needs to be. (0 = 9, 9 = 0)

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_bbd512ffe26c4b08b7f2c8e85664273d.jpg


Have you seen the movie "Pi"? In the movie, the main character finds a string of numbers that's 216 numbers long. Not only does that number add to 9, but guess how many positions this table has, 24 x 9 = 216. :eek:

:D

[barbitone]

Here's another way of looking at the numbers.....

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_2b1d8de546e74a7da20c83e896e9e649.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/l_c8add439ed72415c8cea19c181eb9ffd.jpg

[maximumgravity1]

Very interesting chart on the Fibonacci numbers. I will have to look at this a bit closer. I hink there are some interesting patterns developing that help explain the toroid map. This works much better then the previous grid I had put up.

Your second image of the two cicrles very closely resembles something I had pondered a bit this morning. Regardig the 3 and 6, I was thinking that the half circles more appropriately represent the 3 & 6, then do the two angled lines, as they seem to encompass the nature of what happens in those hemispheres. This is a very neice representation as there is plenty of symetry readily available, and the "charges" are more readily conceptualized.

Great job on both - lots of wisdom to ponder in both of these images.

At the moment, I am still hung up on the pyramid concept. I am begining to develop grandiose ideas regarding this. One thing I am begining to see is the toroid skin acts much like gearing. Very convenient way to move energy.

[barbitone]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_2b1d8de546e74a7da20c83e896e9e649.jpg

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/%7Eidh/apod/image/0206/MyCn18_hst.jpg

:D

[maximumgravity1]

Very nice. What is the bottom image? I tried going through the site, but couldn't find the image description. Some very interesting images on that site though. Like this one:

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~idh/apod/ap060219.html

I have about 6 ideas swimming around right now, and need to finalize a few of them before posting. Too many ideas, not enough time, and so many friggin social obligations...LOL

[barbitone]

That ones called "the hourgalss nebula":)

[barbitone]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/84/l_9fc69e53c32845d1a767daf722a32d1d.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/83/l_91cf575cc9f243678bb3210b857f2f2f.jpg

[cruise4]

This is some amazing stuff Guys. Really enjoying it coming together. I've had an off the wall idea about mathematical operators (division, multiplication) being resonance related. And these number sequences seem to be encoded within prime sequences numerologically reduced as I was trying to get at in this thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18769&highlight=Prime+Numbers&page=4

This probably demonstrates complete naivety, I know :D but have any of you messed about with prime numbers in relation to all this? I'm thinking the control codes are in there for everything, or at least, recurring sequences are very important.

This prime number thing is a real bug bear to me. There's something there and I can't understand what it's telling me.

[barbitone]

This is some amazing stuff Guys. Really enjoying it coming together. I've had an off the wall idea about mathematical operators (division, multiplication) being resonance related. And these number sequences seem to be encoded within prime sequences numerologically reduced as I was trying to get at in this thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18769&highlight=Prime+Numbers&page=4

This probably demonstrates complete naivety, I know :D but have any of you messed about with prime numbers in relation to all this? I'm thinking the control codes are in there for everything, or at least, recurring sequences are very important.

This prime number thing is a real bug bear to me. There's something there and I can't understand what it's telling me.

I haven't fiddled with primes at this point but I'll get to it. I've done geometric angles\degrees, time\clock, fibonacci sequence, squares, cubes, powers of ten, solfeggios.....

[cruise4]

Great... there's just not enough hours in the day anymore, not by a long shot. I feel like great science is appearing on this forum, unfolding before our very eyes.

[barbitone]

I've had a quick squiz at the first 100 or so primes.....there are some patterns and regularities but also irregularities. I don't know what to make of them just yet.

I know Rodin said something about the traditional idea of primes are not true primes but I don't really know what he meant by that and he didn't elabotate on it.....

[barbitone]

Here's squares and cubes;

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/85/l_1accf24faf8d4122a7bc1460625e8b02.jpg

Here's multiples of nine;

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/74/l_0a035c4cf9164dd0b5785b7a4622abd9.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_e7dff6d2b42f4b7d99ce2df83d15db4c.jpg

[barbitone]

Can anyone help me out with an AVI, or burnable version of the Rodin video? I have only got an FLV version and I want to burn a DVD.....

[orbandsceptre27]

Great thread Barbitone, haven`t had time to go through all yet but will do.

Just wanted to add something in relation to what you`ve been saying regarding 3, 6 and 9. I was listening to the Solfeggio frequencies recently and started messing around with the numbers. If you take each frequency and break it down to it`s lowest numeric form, you always get either 3, 6 or 9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JU&feature=channel_page
396 Hz = 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lbvdizaFU&feature=channel_page
417 Hz = 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgMQOAWeVs0&feature=channel_page
528 Hz = 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrMn0_0Phs&feature=channel_page
639 Hz = 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHM8-mT6CBo&feature=channel_page
741 Hz = 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMn69Alu8k&feature=channel_page
852 Hz = 6

Supposedly Tesla said if mankind can understand the significance of these three numbers we will have the keys to the universe. They appear to be the building blocks of our present reality.

[barbitone]

Great thread Barbitone, haven`t had time to go through all yet but will do.

Just wanted to add something in relation to what you`ve been saying regarding 3, 6 and 9. I was listening to the Solfeggio frequencies recently and started messing around with the numbers. If you take each frequency and break it down to it`s lowest numeric form, you always get either 3, 6 or 9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JU&feature=channel_page
396 Hz = 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lbvdizaFU&feature=channel_page
417 Hz = 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgMQOAWeVs0&feature=channel_page
528 Hz = 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrMn0_0Phs&feature=channel_page
639 Hz = 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHM8-mT6CBo&feature=channel_page
741 Hz = 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMn69Alu8k&feature=channel_page
852 Hz = 6

Supposedly Tesla said if mankind can understand the significance of these three numbers we will have the keys to the universe. They appear to be the building blocks of our present reality.


Not only that, they are all family number groups;

1,4 and 7

2,5 and 8

3,6 and 9

[mane]

I took a cross addition table and added its sums with a cross multiplication table, then took those numbers and plugged them into another generation of cross addition and multiplication, and so on.

I'm pretty sure that if you calculate 9 generations 9 times, you get one scale of the number patterns.

There are a ton of occurrences to observe, which speak of the nature of the function. I calculated 10 generations--
(excuse the messy writing)

Generation 1.1:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration001.jpg

Generation 1.2:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration02.jpg

Generation 1.3:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration03.jpg

Generation 1.4:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration04.jpg

Generation 1.5:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration05.jpg

Generation 1.6:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration06.jpg

Generation 1.7:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration07.jpg

Generation 1.8:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration08.jpg

Generation 1.9:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration09.jpg

Generation 2.1:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/theManeone/toroidgeneration10.jpg

[mane]

I find the converging vectors of 7 (seen as a crosshair of 8's) quite interesting. It seems to oscillate diagonally.

[barbitone]

Nice one Mane! I haven't tried that one yet..... looks very interesting.

If you compare the first multiplication\addition table with the last one all the numbers are mirror nines; as in, where there's a 1 on the first table there's an 8 on the last, where there's a 2 on the first there's a 7 on the last etc.....

Sweet.

[orbandsceptre27]

Not only that, they are all family number groups;

1,4 and 7

2,5 and 8

3,6 and 9

Cool!

[mane]

Referring to the generations--
regarding the 7 vector occurrence of converging 8's, I mapped the oscillation and think it is reflecting the balance of a sine wave, as there is a distinct diagonal direction of oscillation.

Still figuring out the significance of the sequence, annnd computer class is out. I'll post drawings later.

[barbitone]

It's not just the 8 but the 2,5,8 family number group. The 2,5,8 FNG is dominant on all of the * grids.

[mane]

The * grids express perfect symmetry diagonally.

After 9 cycles of 9 generations, there are hints that it may make a full cycle, but I'm not sure, the patterns might spiral in a sense. Does anybody know how to program this function so that we could calculate way beyond handwritten work?

[barbitone]

(The FNG; 2,5,8 dominate the * grids and 2 + 5 + 8 = 15 = 6)

It actually makes a full revolution after just 6 generations. There are 3 combinations that go one way and then the other.

(Also notice the 2,5,8 FNG lines occur from 1,4 and 7s)

[barbitone]

Generation 1 http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/74/l_f9a2b75ac93143aba49471f0f3ed6bfe.jpg

Generation 2http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/103/l_2bdef273e7844c15baf2896a3f943762.jpg

Generation 3 http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_dd7c0251e7554ae69736a305a8f8a14f.jpg




Generation 4 http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_d71dd5da3dfe48e981da1cd9e3ba1861.jpg

Generation 5 http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/85/l_70d7bd77e6a04e55a56dad0c0e9cbba4.jpg

Generation 6 http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/72/l_a0cf7956333246efac3494016b5c2415.jpg

[mane]

Thanks for putting that together! This is awesome.

[kerbnix]

This has been one of the most enjoyable threads I've ever read on the David Icke forums. Thanks for the info OP.


Edit: Is there anyway of making some 3D representations of the number charts?

[tehuti]

This sh*t rocks!!!
I love you man, and our protagonists!!

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_f3f59331a88c4475b35e899da1694237.jpghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/m_d67e792a5f8e498bbfd142a300ae6685.gifhttp://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_a4b4733ae90c462ca51d273f6a05a984.jpg

Even though this info largely fits into Nassim Harameins work and could be posted on the Nassim thread,
I wanted to create a thread solely for Marko Rodins "Vortex Based Mathematics".

I have been closley studying his work for a good while now and have come to conclude this this stuff is absolutley A MUST to look at and understand if you are going to bother to try to understand any of this stuff. Of course, knowing of Nassim's work and others like Stan Tenen and Viktor Schauberger etc will GREATLY enhance the connectivity as you start to understand this work. It may look complicated at first but I assure you it is not. You only need to be able to do basic addition, multiplication etc, and having an eye for patterns and symmetry will help.

Then you may think that this doesn't equate to anything more than some interesting magic squares or number patterns that are irrelavent to real world applications or the nature of reality.
This couldn't be furthur from the truth.
Mathematics is the base understanding of geometry, physics, chemistry, biology, all life and time-space fabric itself; everything!
As Nassim points out, it's not the particles that matter but rather the patterns and the harmonics!
This is a full access view to the harmonics, geometry, vibration, time-space dynamics of all energetic systems and it's easy enough for anyone to understand.




http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/86/l_d45034a4f7444d2fb9bde3afccd3a255.jpghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_c578fc6b8221470ea3d2edb9384a760d.png




Welcome to VORTEX BASED MATHEMATICS
As discovered by Marko Rodin.




Utube Video Lecture: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5227CD94BC5C7D51


Website Links:
http://www.rense.com/RodinAerodynamics.htm
http://rodin.freelancepartnership.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://lifeforcegenie.com/unified-science-of-everything/vortex-based-mathematics.html
http://www.theinfovault.net/vault/science/rodinscoil.html



http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/106/l_99329bb123da49eea00995c2a0282a05.jpg

(From RodinAerodynamics.org)

[B]Using a new math that shows that numbers are not man-made symbols, but are actually real, you will see and understand the answers to these questions.

Learn about:

* A particle that does not bend, but causes everything in the universe to curve around it.
* The three toroidal number patterns that are the basis to all mathematics (the pattern of numbers traversing the toroidal surface in, out, and around).
* The universe as an ecological system of renewal.
* Your body being made out of countless stars of the past.
* Proof of an omniscient supreme being.
* Making a coil that produces unlimited free energy.
* A number grid that shows the underpinning geometry of the universe.
* How everything is a torus.
* Making a propulsion source that can take you anywhere in the universe.
* Artificial Intelligence based on a binary triplet.
* The Aetheric Template in DNA that guides evolution.
* The repeating number pattern that solves pi and demonstrates it to be a whole number.
* A mathematics in which numbers do not move, but the functions move instead.
* How numbers form a 3D solid geometric object.
* The secret of a gyroscope -- why it vertically lifts itself upright.
* Wormholes, nested vertices, portals, and doorways.
* Why Dimensions are a result of how things move through space.
* The preferred frame of reference to the universe is based upon the fixed constant number 9.
* Number crunching and encription compression done through cross addition.
* The labrynth maze of the Doubling Circuits where they invert in the center.
* World boundary conditions and inversion seams of nested vortices.
* The bilateral symmetry of the decimal system resulting in polar number pairs having parity by being perfect mirrors of one another.
* The zero is always in the center in the form of the vortex hole.
* Multiplication series are unbroken rings from cross sections of the torus.
* A number cannot be created or destroyed and zero does not exist on a number line or in any multiplication series.
* The number 9 is the node and represents Spirit.
* The numbers 3 and 6 represent the Yin and Yang in the form of magnetism and the number 9 is the S curve.
* The base ten numerical counting system is triangulated.
* Infinity has an epicenter.
* The powers of ten occur by halfing.
* The torus skin models harmonic cascadence.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/83/l_bbb64fd8a7eb4376a42efd09e5712443.jpg http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_fb87cc19c93046e8af925ebb001f19c4.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/82/l_9c9d2799ea2149c8b14efa1d6b2f6897.jpg

(From theinfovault.net/vault/science/rodinscoil.html)

"In every age there is a turning point, a new way of seeing
and asserting the coherence of the world."
-- Jacob Bronkowski

Marko Rodin has discovered a series of regularities in the decimal number system heretofore undocumented and overlooked by conventional mathematics and science. These patterns lay out on the surface and within the internal volume of a torus. Mathematicians, computer scientists and other leading scientific thinkers have tested and validated this revolutionary discovery, known as the Rodin Solution and often referred to as the Rodin Coil.

The Rodin Coil is a blueprint, or schematic of the universe, that enables anything to be engineered. By using the schematic of a Rodin Coil, one can know the pathways and motion everything takes – past, present and future – from the quantum level up to solar systems and galaxies. Simply put, Rodin has discovered the underpinning geometry of the universe. He has found the missing energy behind the continuous creation and recreation of the universe. Scientists refer to this missing energy as "dark matter" or "dark energy" because they have so far been unable to account for it.

Finding this "dark energy" is the biggest scientific search of our times. And Marko Rodin has found it.

The Rodin Coil is a nozzle that can turn mankind into intergalactic citizens by functioning as a vertical lift power propulsion spacecraft due to its massive magnetic field

Rodin, with his Vortex-Based Mathematics, is able to decode the entire universe from the quantum level to galaxies, using a mathematics so simple even a nine year-old can do it. Vortex-Based Mathematics, or the Rodin Solution, will change
our world forever.

The Rodin Torus Coil makes much of current technology obsolete, including the following :

• The combustion engine
• Alternating current
• Conventional computer compression schemes
• Current methods of heat dissipation in computer processors
• Conventional wireless communication
• Winged airplanes
• All conventional types of encryption
• Endless repeating decimals are eliminated as a result of being able to compute a whole value for anything
• Chemical-based approaches to medical treatment can be eliminated through controlling genetic engineering via the high-dimensional flux fields which are the basis of all creation

[barbitone]

This has been one of the most enjoyable threads I've ever read on the David Icke forums. Thanks for the info OP.


Edit: Is there anyway of making some 3D representations of the number charts?

I'd love to find someone that is both interested in Rodin math and is able to make 3D computer models.... maybe one day.

[mane]

I'd love to find someone that is both interested in Rodin math and is able to make 3D computer models.... maybe one day.

I'm going to talk to a friend of mine to see about that.

[banjoreality]

Nice one Barbitone wathced all 40 of em, loved it!
THanks.:)

[maximumgravity1]

Sorry to have been out of the loop on this for a while. For some reason, I quit getting notified when this thread updates.

I got side tracked for a while on the pyramid thing, and got away from this directly, but found some very interesting number sequences with the pyramids, and in constructing geometric shapes pertaining to pyramids. I'll get into that later, as it is all theory and I don't think it directly ties to this, but has an interesting correlation.

You guys completely lost me on the number grids that Mane was working on. I am not sure what is going on with those, but they look interesting.

Barbitone, I can probably help you with the videos. I have found a few torrents that had the entire video in avi or some other format. I can probably even put it into DVD format for you, but I think it will be crappy to watch on tv because the compression is so high. The torrents are around 2 gb, and took me about 4 days to download because of the bizarre nature in which torrents download.

My latest endeavors have gotten me to wrapping a coil. I purchased a few sets of the Fisher Price toys, and discovered that everyone that has posted measurements online is using approximations. This has literally cost me over 30 hours of frustration trying to figure out why my measurements were coming out wrong. Simple rule of thumb...trust no one but yourself...LOL My biggest problem was I don't have any calipers to properly measure the O.D. of the rings. In the end, I have managed to create a very simple template that I can post on here that will take anyone about 5 minutes total time (from download to completion) to align all the pins at 10° intervals. As soon as I get this done for the Blue and Yellow rings, I will post them all at once.

I started doing a few test wraps last night trying to determine exactly how much wire I will need. I only have 21 & 28 gauge wire at the necessary lengths right now, so that has driven my decision to start with the green coil. I have started to compile some various notes on tips and info that I found all across the internet. Of interest, in looking through Bill Ramsay's original articles, his coils weren't very attentive to the numbering system we are using. In two of his coils, I found one with 10 wires per circuit, and the other with 17. He still managed pretty significant results with these, so I am guessing that with "proper" attention to the numbers, these coils will become even more "symmetrical" then what Bill used for the initial tests. This also tells me that this coil is pretty "forgiving" in that it doesn't have to be exact to provide satisfactory results.

In doing some basic wraps, it became apparent that the real "magic" of this toroid is coming in the way the wire moves through the toroid. Something that can't be seen too well in 2D. It is kind of obvious if you use your imagination, but the wires themselves form nice uniform spirals that look like water draining from a toilet. The criss-cross patterns we see in 2D are nice, but the reality is the entire coil is designed to "swirl" the electricity by mechanical means more then anything electrical. Marko said this himself in the video, but it is apparent when you begin to look at the wires.

Also, on a final note, I have managed to configure two 12V DC solenoids to pulse DC current into the coils in a "circuit 1-on, circuit 2-off" : "circuit 2-on circuit 1-off" manner. I believe that there is a period when both circuits are off, providing the 3-circuit its chance to "power on". Unfortunately, due to the mechanical nature of solenoids, I believe I am actually getting a (1 on, 2 off, 3 off) : (1 off, 2 off, 3 on) : (1 off, 2 on, 3, off) : (1 off, 2 off, 3 on) etc, configuration. In other words, the 3 is coming on in between the cycles of the 1 & 2. I would like to find a way to have the 3 come on only once during the powering of the 1 & 2, instead of twice. I believe this is mostly due to the blades of the solenoid being open when the contacts are not touching in either Normal Open or Normal Close position. I can begin to see why spark gaps are the ideal solution for pulsed DC. I am not quite sure how to perform that yet, but will figure it out in time. Also, if someone knows much about electrical theory, I would like to run some things by them. I am getting some strange readings when I pulse DC in this manner. I am reading as much as 16 -18 volts on my battery, and sometimes more, even pegging my meter (and burned out an analog meter) as well as able to get readings from just one lead. I have video on youtube that shows these anomalies on a previous experiment with some Cook's coils and a variation of the Tesla Ozone patent. I am sure the over-voltage is coming from the collapsing DC field, and the BEMF, aether, space-energy whatever you want to call it, is providing the over-voltage (of course, I know, this doesn't exist), but I can't explain why I can read these measurements with just one lead.

Anyway, more to come. I need to create some diagrams and animations to show what is happening to help make sense of this stuff.

[barbitone]

Nice one Max! Don't worry about the Rodin AVI I've got it sorted now I think....
I'd be very interested to see how your coil comes about! Sounds wicked.:)

[jonbongjovi]

for someone who got a D in GCSE maths.. can anyone explain what this is all about..i mean the pics and stuff look interesting and i can see patterns in the grids but what does it all signify?

[barbitone]

for someone who got a D in GCSE maths.. can anyone explain what this is all about..i mean the pics and stuff look interesting and i can see patterns in the grids but what does it all signify?

I got a D minus. :D

RESONANCE
SELF-EVIDENT PROPERTIES
FUNDERMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS OF ENERGY
INTERCONNECTIVITY
SUPER-SYMMETRY
BINARY TRIPLET REALITY
WORLD BOUNDARY CONDITION GENERATION

etc, etc....:D

I thought I did a good job explaining it all......no? Dang.

[maximumgravity1]

Bahhh... I seem to have lost my entire post. I will write it again later.

In short, finsihed the coil, got it powered up. Still playing with the setups to see what works best. I don't have adequate equipment to measure what I am getting out. So most measurements are done by "feel" or comparitive observation.

The most exciting thing has been having a 1" (25mm) spherical steel magnet (quite heavy) ALMOST suspend in the field. It will balance on the backside of my fingernail, but won't quite hold itself there. This involves wiring the coil incorrectly and connecting both circuits together. Possibly just a gigantic electromagnet, but therein lies the key to this technology. I believe we are going to have start looking to use the fields instead of spliting the electricity into what we consider "usable" components. This is not how it occurs in nature, and the most common form is static elcetricity. But we seem to believe it is unsuable and "stagnant" (static).

More later with photos and diagrams. Brain is fried from reading all morning.

[barbitone]

Nice one man.:cool: I'd love to know how it all transpires..... Remember Marko said that you need to "massage" the coil, find it's sweet spot.;)

Some how you need to focus a torqued magnetic field into a central point in such a way as to "pinch" the time-space manifold and tap the ether- field flux emanation. Easy.....:D

[maximumgravity1]

Good point on the "massaging" of the coil - I had forgotten about that.

I think you are spot on with your comments, and I think this coil is the best demonstration of such a focused central point.

I am having problems with getting the stupid templates to work properly for every size, and have to keep going back to tweak each one individually. I am giving it another go today, so hopefully, I will be able to put them up shortly. In the interim, I am going to put up two charts that I found really helpful in getting going, in case anyone wants to wind their own coils. These are all based on American sizes and measurements, but I am finding it easier and more accurate to measure everything in metric units first.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/3531038940_9ea351c6af_o.jpg

This first table is info based off of a YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn1XtNSYWMc), with the link address being found in the image. This is pretty helpful in determining "correct" wire gauge to use to fill out the spaces. Maybe not necessary, and possibly over-thinking things, but does seem to make it much more symmetrical.



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/3530223257_2aa2ee1493_o.jpg

This second table is the info that Bill Ramsay provided for Marko Rodin when he first wound some experimental coils. These were his original measurements. Again helpful in determining how much wire to use. Note that all of Ramsay's lengths used 24 AWG wire, so there is some variance when switching to other sized wires.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/3530223281_5f133d31ba_o.jpg

Here is my completed coil. Again, this was with 28AWG wire on the green ring. This was 27 wraps per circuit, and as you can see, seems to carry quite a bit of copper to the table - almost too much in my mind. It just feels very "full". I think in the future, I will try to stick with less wraps, as this gets very messy, and quite cumbersome when approaching wrap 45 or so. It became difficult to bunch the strands together without overlapping them. I think for me personally, 18 will be my max number. I do plan on doing a second green coil with 27 wraps, for symmetry, but may abandon that idea when I wrap a different ring with different sized wire.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/3531039076_c22f6a3394_o.jpg

Lastly, this image I am trying to show the concept I alluded to earlier about seeing this differently in 3D then you do in 2D. It becomes very clear that this coil is about "swirling" the energy through the ring. This is showing only one wrap completed. It is not quite as clear as I would like to make it, but it should convey a sense of seeing the wraps as individual units, just conveying their circuit's energy "around the toilet drain". Seeing the lines separated like this I think portrays a different concept then when you see them all compressed into 2D space. I think it also begins to clarify the need for symmetry in this coil.

Anyway, more to come later on my solenoid setup as well as the templates hopefully so others can begin winding these coils.

[maximumgravity1]

Ok, so here is my solenoid setup....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3530861019_4a7aeb710b_o.jpg

Sorry for the layman way of drawing this, I don't know enough about standard electronic schematics to show it with proper icons. Anyway, this will help others out there like me that need to see how it works to understand it. Ignore the dashed line, it was an afterthought that went awry. There is lots of room for improvement on this, and as mentioned before, this is just the first step. This is just to accomplish the pulsing. Next step is to increase the voltage and get away from the solenoids altogether.

[maximumgravity1]

Finally, after much tweaking, here are the templates.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/3535676871_23db5cbb2b_o.jpg

So here is how to use these. These are designed for the Fisher Price Stack-a-Rack rings. Cut out all three pieces for each color ring, and tape the paper template on the circumference of the ring. There is a center line on the paper template to align with the seem of the ring. When the 2nd template goes on, overlap the 1st paper so the horizontal lines line up. Do the same for the third. There is an extra set of dots on each template just for assistance, but they can be cut off once the vertical lines are aligned. Each template decreases in thickness so that you can see the horizontal line of the previous template, on the outside edge of the current template. Once all three pieces are taped in place, just insert the pins in the holes.

Here is a close up of the idea:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3535618499_c1ac3c0bcd_o.jpg

This should be pretty easy to understand. Hopefully this will take some of the complexity out of this, and people will be inspired to start winding coils.

EDIT: Please note, if someone has a problem with the resolution of the templates, let me know - I can try to make these higher resoltion, or put them as a tiff image to keep them lossless.

[anahata]

I don't want to go off topic with this but I couldn't help notice a similarity with the masonic lodge symbol. Do you think there is anything in it... ?

http://lightemitter.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/image0021.jpg

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:tqKzAjsb9rzJBM:http://www.sc458.org/images/logo.JPG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NsPXoFt__bU/R6VoWWzOx8I/AAAAAAAAAJU/UySjzZZxPIQ/s320/EA+Gold+Emb+SNQ.jpg

The square and compass are the architects tools but wouldn't it also make sense for there to be deeper meaning in it?

As Marko says with his diagram, the 9 is at the top... that is the point of control and from the same perspective that is where the architect is controlling the compass. From a symbolic point that is also the top of a pyramid.

[mane]

listen to this song, "Will You Be Prepared When the Elohim Returns?" by Lost Children of Babylon. Pay close attention to the last verse, where the rapper illustrates reasoning with numbers. I find that it resonates with Rodin's system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnuLjWH46-M

[maximumgravity1]

@ anahata

I had noticed that too when I first started looking at this symbol. I am sure there is some significance to it, but I am not sure if there are any direct connections. What the masons have become, and what they were I believe are quite different things. Many people now associate the Masons with the Illuminati. Whatever, not really about this thread, there is plenty of info out there on it. But that isn't to say there isn't some significance to their symbolism.



@ mane

In listening to that song, I believe they took every term they could find in mysticism, religion, and new age thinking and tried to throw them together in some form of logical order. However, their verse about the counting system does ring true. However, this is not really a new concept. There are many studies in numerology - especially of the ancients - that have no number higher then 9. However, their spin on the song and the verse is interesting, and does allow the mind to wander a bit.

[mane]

That Mason/Rodin comparison is interesting. It's worth conjecture, for sure. Anybody got an in on the Masons??

[fr0sty]

i think the updated picture of Rodin work is this:
http://rodin.freelancepartnership.com/images/fbfiles/images/Symbol_of_universe.gif
where the orange dot is the same "hole"/"vortex tunnel" but is the "middle" of the other torus (other pole) (see Nassim Haramein work!! ffs)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/949/vehexagon.jpg

http://breakfornews.com/treecn/images/sos/Torus-graphic.gif

http://theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/dualtorus.gif

http://www.postimage.org/Pq2dMQ49.gif (G means Spinning, black hole and the rest is a clue about the structure etc)

http://www.postimage.org/Pq2dNWV9.jpg
Masons XD, actually there is a connection between the symbols...the masons have they religion based on what was truly inside the holy chest of Moses :o, and the "10"(actually was more than 10) commandments from Moses was hexagonal shape sapphires from a side view, made from smaller pieces (triangular pyramids) (the translators simplifies what they don't understand totally, and have done many other "mistakes" accidentally or not)

[fr0sty]

please look at the links inside of this topic post
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1000017&postcount=1780

[maximumgravity1]

Coincidentally, I just ordered a book about Masonic knowledge and some of their symbols, hopefully something enlightening will come from it. I will keep you posted of anything I find.

[mane]

http://theinnerdoor.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/volkswagon_logo.jpg

from the sci-fi show Stargate: Sg-1
http://starland.com/catalog/images/sgc.jpg

http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_stargate_sg-1-logo-large.jpg

[barbitone]

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_a150335015084227b6aa69ec4c8ea9b7.jpg


This is the Fibonacci sequence, in descreet numbers and compared to itself in base 4, since it has mirror symmetry at position 12 and fully repeats after 24 positions. (12=3, 24=6)

Notice the doubling circuits, the 396693 and the 181818 pattern. The 1 and 8 always seems to stick out; cubed numbers are all 1s and 8s with third intervals of 9. (189189189) And the Rodin skin has double 1s and 8s....

[barbitone]

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/109/l_75817ff0387b49768e996e7fd660d810.jpg

This is an exponentiality grid. :cool:

[fr0sty]

So what is your conclusion Barbitone..I think Nassim Haramein know this details but he present all the information easiest he can :D

http://www.postimage.org/Pq2dMQ49.gif = http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NsPXoFt__bU/R6VoWWzOx8I/AAAAAAAAAJU/UySjzZZxPIQ/s320/EA+Gold+Emb+SNQ.jpg

anyway the Marko Rodin will have way much more to learn to reach the level of Nassim understanding about this structure..i hope he will watch this forum and the Nassim haramein movie (Crossing The event Horizon)

[barbitone]

Marko seems to have a intuitive connection rather than a knowledge based kind've connection....I think he knows plenty but lacks the skills to explain it in other ways besides his math. He has only released a small amount of information so far....

My conclusion is that Nassims work is incomplete without Rodin's angle of view. And Rodins work is incomplete without Nassims point of view.

Together they form a beautifully simple theory of everything macro to micro that is understandable by the layman and thanks to Rodins math, can be accessed via numbers with ease as opposed to needing to know advanced algebra and calculus etc....

If kids were taught this and given room to play with the ideas, they would excel beyond anything we could imagine ,I believe.

[fr0sty]

very fine words..I agree with you

[maximumgravity1]

I'm curious about your Aavatar fr0sty? Is that a recreation of the Ark of the Covenant? Or just a 3D depiction? If its a recreation, do you have info on it?

[maximumgravity1]

@barbitone,
Some interesting symetry in your exponential grid there. Aside from the prevalance of the 9's, this feels very linear. Instead of the torrus, or the flow of the lazy 8, this feels very angular and straight. It is interesting in looking at the columns, it is all mirror images - with the 1-4-7 fluctuating with a 1-7-4. If these three numbers are looked at as legs defining a triangle, its rigidness begins to appear. Also, in looking at the rows, each pair seems to represent a line segment, and again, the significance of what they represents is very triangular in nature. The only exception are the contiguous same numbers - 1-1, 7-7, 4-4. I am not sure if these would be a point in oblivion, and not really exist, or if these would be a complete circle.

It is interesting in thinking of these pairs as line segments, it is easy to make triangles in many cases. It is also interesting in considering the Pythagorean Theorem (a^2 + b^2 = c^2) - since all of these numbers are squared. Maybe reading too much into this, but it begins to feel as if this is tying in a 3 dimensional element. In that any of the 9's move the segment "up" to a higher plane, providing the third leg of the triangle at 90° to the first segment set. So imagine a line segment length 1-4, rotate 90° up for a segment length 4-7. I have no idea if this works, but someone better in math then me would have to prove this out. I would assume there must be some validity since each point (1-9) is a known 40° angle around the circle, this makes many line segments "double" other segments.

Again, probably reading too much into it, but it would make the Masonic symbol an easy to understand set of tools. With the compass, you wouldn't even have to know the measurment, just the proportion. Maybe even someone with a compass can do this through geometric construction and see if it seems to hold water.

On a side note regarding the Masonic symbol, somewhere on the net, I read that the compass is supposed to bisect the square at the "2" marks on either end. There was some significance to this "doubling of the individual", but I forgot what it was.

[fr0sty]

I'm curious about your Aavatar fr0sty? Is that a recreation of the Ark of the Covenant? Or just a 3D depiction? If its a recreation, do you have info on it?

We know from the bible the dimensions of the Ark of the Covenant, and he fits the "tomb" inside the Great Pyramid.. see the movie Crossing the event Horizon by Nassim Haramein :)
the most important part is what was inside the Ark of the Covenant!!!

[fr0sty]

http://www.virtuescience.com/great-pyramid-top.gif
Did you know the great pyramid is perfect, but they say the top of the pyramid is not in the middle of the square base and has an error of a quarter of a inch lol . but that is because the modern scientists has calculate wrong the Pi number.
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Pi_eq_C_over_d.svg/180px-Pi_eq_C_over_d.svg.png Circumference = π × diameter

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Circle_Area.svg/180px-Circle_Area.svg.png Area of the circle = π × area of the shaded square

Calculating Pi number
π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, due to Archimedes,[19] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn , of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/4/3/3/433f568efaeb7da81b76d4294cee4ae9.png

That is, the more sides the polygon has, the closer the approximation approaches π. Archimedes determined the accuracy of this approach by comparing the perimeter of the circumscribed polygon with the perimeter of a regular polygon with the same number of sides inscribed inside the circle. Using a polygon with 96 sides, he computed the fractional range: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/6/8/e6887481d95ea41bb98fc610f1c46d93.png


I will say only that his ARCHIMEDES axiom (287-212 BC) resulting from the conclusion that seems logical in our OLD thinking and reference, namely that a circle can be compared and even overlapped with circumscribed polygon with infinite number of sides is not accurate!


The modern scientist will say to you if you give them the TRUE PI NUMBER "Archimedes established margin that included PI: between 3.1408 (223/71) and 3.1428 (22 / 7), so the your result are not included in this interval, so that is false!"

For the moment all the guys out there uses PI=3.1415(....)
but the true Pi number is 3,1446(...) go and measure on terrain!!! practical !!!

PI=4/radical(PHI, the golden ratio = 1.61803399(...)) = 3.14460550981492(...) !!!
http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/courses/gc/golden_ratio01.jpg The Golden Ratio!!! http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMT669/Student.Folders/Frietag.Mark/Homepage/Goldenratio/image19.gif

Facts:
According to the true pi number the diameter of the Large Hadron Collider is smaller with 8.13 meters!
According to the true pi number the GREAT PYRAMID IS P.E.R.F.E.C.T.!!!!!!!
According to the true pi number N.A.S.A. is using the true PI number. lol
According to the true pi number the humans will be able to build more perfect buildings (and durable ffs!!!)
ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PI NUMBER THE MARKO RODIN SINGLE TORUS COIL WILL BE UPGRADED AND MORE EFFICIENT!!! and a little bigger in diameter :))

[anahata]

I've never heard anyone say that Pi is wrong before. I don't understand all the maths either so probably shouldn't comment on it but is there a problem that movement hasn't been taken into account? The circle is an infinite construct of sorts, a vortex. It's not static at the atomic level and shouldn't be measured precisely because it's fluid... yet appears solid :confused:

[fr0sty]

http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/scan0005.gif
I've never heard anyone say that Pi is wrong before. I don't understand all the maths either so probably shouldn't comment on it but is there a problem that movement hasn't been taken into account? The circle is an infinite construct of sorts, a vortex. It's not static at the atomic level and shouldn't be measured precisely because it's fluid... yet appears solid :confused:

The Sun doesn't exist then...

[fr0sty]

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.jpg
I've never heard anyone say that Pi is wrong before. I don't understand all the maths either so probably shouldn't comment on it but is there a problem that movement hasn't been taken into account? The circle is an infinite construct of sorts, a vortex. It's not static at the atomic level and shouldn't be measured precisely because it's fluid... yet appears solid :confused:


Sun seems to be pretty spherical NOT CIRCLEEEE!!! DO NOT THINK FLAAAT PEOPLE!!! NOT FLAAT

[fr0sty]

http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/STEAUAPOLARA.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/PiramidaKeopsChina.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-1.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-2.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-3.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-4.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-5.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ANGLEof5G-6.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE1.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE2.gif

[fr0sty]

http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE3.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE4.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE5.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/ALTE6.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/FORMULE1_10etc.gif
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/scan0005.gif http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1625/doublepyramid.png http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7140/anotherangle.png
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5200/isotropicvectormatrix.png
http://www.freewebs.com/goldenno/scan0002.gifhttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/495/91291699.jpg
http://www.glyphweb.com/esky/_images/maps/orionsbelt.gif

[anahata]

Yeah you're right, stretching the imagination redefines our understanding.

lol what is flat? Seriously. There are boundaries of a sort but the energy exchange is fluid, it's a code which tries to define a boundary. Magnify a ruler and you'll see it's not actually level, and when you draw a line, that line is made up of lots of tiny dots where the friction has taken place but the texture of the paper isn't flat either so how could it ever be a straight line anyway? Similarly with the sun, we percieved definition until someone zoomed into it.

EDIT: Info above looks great but that really is a foreign language to me! :) I'm glad there are clever people in the world to play with the numbers!!

[fr0sty]

:D you have some very true words in this post :D..how the electron appear and disappear in quantum mechanics?

[fr0sty]

Yeah you're right, stretching the imagination redefines our understanding.

lol what is flat? Seriously.

thinking that the earth is flat http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm , thinking that the radius of the circle sun is the same as the spherical sun, thinking that the earth will reach in the same point in space even you know about the Sidereal and Tropical Year; thinking in cycles ... and the list continues!!

[fr0sty]

Yeah you're right, stretching the imagination redefines our understanding.

lol what is flat? Seriously. There are boundaries of a sort but the energy exchange is fluid, it's a code which tries to define a boundary. Magnify a ruler and you'll see it's not actually level, and when you draw a line, that line is made up of lots of tiny dots where the friction has taken place but the texture of the paper isn't flat either so how could it ever be a straight line anyway? Similarly with the sun, we percieved definition until someone zoomed into it.

EDIT: Info above looks great but that really is a foreign language to me! :) I'm glad there are clever people in the world to play with the numbers!!

this is the structure of the diamond..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Diamond_Cubic-F_lattice_animation.gif
so doesn't matter how much you cut it (with another diamond of course because is the hardest thing on earth) the diamond when zooming in alot has tetrahedrons on surface..is not flat; do you understand?

[anahata]

... and the cycle continues ;)

I haven't seen the structure of the diamond before but looks good! :D I'd have designed it like that for sure :p Going to have to look over that 'earth is flat' link tomorrow!! There is freedom from structure which I surpose would be non-manifestation or stasis which is like a single frame or time which is a compromise between the both of structures transfering energy between them.. consciousness :) OOh this wine is good :p Thats what I think.

[anahata]

Frosty, :)! I came across this video you've posted...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32453&page=178

:eek: Thanks

[fr0sty]

:D do you mean at this particular post?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1000017&postcount=1780

[maximumgravity1]

Hey fr0sty,

Regarding the Ark of the Covenant comments, there are many illogical explanations regarding the "sarcophagus" in the Kings Chamber, among other things. I have my own explanations, but will reserve them for now. I do find it interesting that the Ark would fit in there. It really makes perfect sense to me. I find one of the most amazing things about the Pyramids is until this last century, man could not fathom a building being that tall. There was no such way to build a building that big. Ironically, the tallest - the World Trade Center Towers, didn't even make it 100 years. I live in a house that is about 110 years old, and it is constantly in need of maintenance, and "major" structural repairs. Yet the pyramids have remained in perfect alignment and structural integrity for well over 4000 years. I think it really shows how insignificant our modern thought really is.

Interesting info regarding Pi. I had seen a documentary on TV about 15 years ago that discussed this in some detail regarding the Pyramid. The final conclusion pretty much supports your conclusions. They estimated that the same mathematics would be reached by taking a wheel, and walking the side of the pyramid, then basically, doubling that for the height. Apparently, the anomaly works itself into that equation, to make it differ from the mathematical ideal.

For the rest of what you post - I really have no idea what you are trying to say. The only words I understood was North Star.

I have also read a few different books regarding "Pyramid Mathematics". It makes me believe that we are missing something with our conventional math. In reading your post, I am even more convinced of it. LOL

I have also found that geometric structures do not translate in real life to what our mathematical models suggest. Your diamond structure is a prime example. I found this out building a pyramid out of smaller pyramids and tetrahedrons. I basically stumbled across Pascal's Pyramid (at least as represented by this page (http://buckydome.com/math/Article2.htm)). The only difference, is the way it is drawn on that website is a bit confusing, is more of a cross-section of the octahedron, instead of a general octahedron shape that you would build. This looks like someone took a core sample. However, the important thing is it requires a combination of tetrahedron and pyramids to build, tetrahedrons alone are only an optical illusion when the pyramid is rotated. I discovered this with many shapes we represent geometrically. They are not true geometric shapes - just optical illusions of viewing from a rotated angle. I will build a model and post as an explanation if anyone is interested. I have one now, but all pyramids and tetrahedron are white, so it is difficult to understand visually where the tetrahedrons begin and end.

[fr0sty]

Hey fr0sty,

Regarding the Ark of the Covenant comments, there are many illogical explanations regarding the "sarcophagus" in the Kings Chamber, among other things. I have my own explanations, but will reserve them for now. I do find it interesting that the Ark would fit in there. It really makes perfect sense to me. I find one of the most amazing things about the Pyramids is until this last century, man could not fathom a building being that tall. There was no such way to build a building that big. Ironically, the tallest - the World Trade Center Towers, didn't even make it 100 years. I live in a house that is about 110 years old, and it is constantly in need of maintenance, and "major" structural repairs. Yet the pyramids have remained in perfect alignment and structural integrity for well over 4000 years. I think it really shows how insignificant our modern thought really is.

Interesting info regarding Pi. I had seen a documentary on TV about 15 years ago that discussed this in some detail regarding the Pyramid. The final conclusion pretty much supports your conclusions. They estimated that the same mathematics would be reached by taking a wheel, and walking the side of the pyramid, then basically, doubling that for the height. Apparently, the anomaly works itself into that equation, to make it differ from the mathematical ideal.

For the rest of what you post - I really have no idea what you are trying to say. The only words I understood was North Star.

I have also read a few different books regarding "Pyramid Mathematics". It makes me believe that we are missing something with our conventional math. In reading your post, I am even more convinced of it. LOL

I have also found that geometric structures do not translate in real life to what our mathematical models suggest. Your diamond structure is a prime example. I found this out building a pyramid out of smaller pyramids and tetrahedrons. I basically stumbled across Pascal's Pyramid (at least as represented by this page (http://buckydome.com/math/Article2.htm)). The only difference, is the way it is drawn on that website is a bit confusing, is more of a cross-section of the octahedron, instead of a general octahedron shape that you would build. This looks like someone took a core sample. However, the important thing is it requires a combination of tetrahedron and pyramids to build, tetrahedrons alone are only an optical illusion when the pyramid is rotated. I discovered this with many shapes we represent geometrically. They are not true geometric shapes - just optical illusions of viewing from a rotated angle. I will build a model and post as an explanation if anyone is interested. I have one now, but all pyramids and tetrahedron are white, so it is difficult to understand visually where the tetrahedrons begin and end.

When you take the number Pi = 3,1446(...) THE NUMBER PHI OR GOLDEN CUT...GOLDEN MEAN...GOLDEN RATIO...GOLDEN NUMBER...GOLDEN SECTION is everywhere :D and everything is simplified and intuitive. Please disable the chaos theory rofl!!!

[barbitone]

Frosty, would you care to ellaborate on all of that mathematic information? I was trying to keep this thread simple and to the point and focused on Rodin maths....

[mane]

http://theinnerdoor.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/volkswagon_logo.jpg

from the sci-fi show Stargate: Sg-1
http://starland.com/catalog/images/sgc.jpg

http://library.galciv2.com/mvlib/ss/Fullview_stargate_sg-1-logo-large.jpg

Seven Jeans
http://www.designsbystephene.com/prod_images_blowup/seven_jeans_a_pocket_dark_havana_LG1.jpg

[barbitone]

There are lots of things with pyramids on them...... the only real match is the VW logo or the Enneagram.

I want someones informed opinion and thoughts on the Fibonacci sequence I did compared to itself 4 by 6.....

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_a150335015084227b6aa69ec4c8ea9b7.jpg

So this is the first 24 Fibonacci numbers compressed and compared to themselves by 4 and 6.

The top line horizontally is the doubling circuit 1,2,4,8,7,5 the next line is the first and last mirror numbers ; 1 and 8, then there is another doubling circuit mirroring the other one. And the last line is the very familiar 3,9,6,6,9,3 line.
Notice that the only numbers that reoccur twice vertically are the 1 and 8.
Now look at the Rodin grid....

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/78/l_0f5ff6e4dc9c4cf18c414e52896850e5.jpg

[mane]

I am experiencing numbers on a new level of consciousness, where each number-- ratio, or point in spacetime has a particular characteristic, and is completely relative to the perception, where the only variables that matter are those that exist within the perception; such is a system of consciousness, with numbers as geometric points in fractal structures of perception.

Can anybody relate?

[mane]

One example would be how a post count and post content relate.

[barbitone]

I would say it like this; everything is trinary in truth and binary in illusion, the decimal system has a left and right side (0.0) only as a result of the point in the centre which is the third "invisible" part that creates the "binary". One side is macro, one side is micro. The point in the centre is where you are. The centre of radiant consciousness. The third point. The point of awareness that percieves space-time subjectively,dualisticly, in order to have an "experience" of seperation from the ALL.

Number systems are the closest thing we have outside of experience directly of raw energy, the prime power of the matrix construct. Since numbers can be used to understand and view geometry, sound, light and dynamics they are primary to all things in terms of a tool of creation. The next would geometry....

[maximumgravity1]

@mane,

I can relate. I pick up many of the concepts that barbitone is talking about. Lately, I see most everything in a triune group. Mostly what I have been percieving as of late is the equivalent of the 3-6 pair - the point about which things rotate. I have for a long time noticed the duality of many things, but am now starting to connect a central tie that binds the pair, that is indeed a separate element. About two years ago, I went through a period where everytime I looked at the clock, I had to calculate it out to its single digit equivalent, as we do here. I soon began to see everything as a single point - age, values, time, anything we assign numbers to. It didn't become just a single value, but it became a single entity in a predfined boundary - the boundary just varied based on the quantity it was measuring. Now I am seeing not only that point, but often times its "opposite" and that point about which it fluctuates or opposes. Not everything, but in most things that are quantifiable. Even in measuring time or age, it became a single point on a linear scale, and also had its opposite (young vs old, now vs then, future vs past or present, half of or double present age, etc). It is an unusual way of seeing things, but makes me realize that most of our perceptions are indeed based on how we are taught to percieve as opposed to just recognizing what we see, then evaluating it on its own merrits, and seeing how it fits into the grand scheme of things. We indeed have preconceived biased notions, that are based on what we have been taught to bias them.

[cruise4]

Marco Rodin stated he saw 'living numbers'. Can anyone relate their new vision of number to that statement?

[fr0sty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvlWiv4mWS4

[mane]

Marco Rodin stated he saw 'living numbers'. Can anyone relate their new vision of number to that statement?

He says 'living numbers' to distinguish the fact that they aren't numbers in the societal sense-- numbers you learn at school. They are of another nature, so much as to say they aren't numbers at all; thus, he sees 'living numbers', however you interpret what is seen.

[barbitone]

He says 'living numbers' to distinguish the fact that they aren't numbers in the societal sense-- numbers you learn at school. They are of another nature, so much as to say they aren't numbers at all; thus, he sees 'living numbers', however you interpret what is seen.

That's right, he is saying what we call "numbers", represent a living, dynamic, aware energy and it has specific characteristics that can be understood through these symbols.

[sadukan]

I wasn't going to mention this yet...

...but after reading most of this thread (I found a vid on Google (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165) too - I'll watch it later)
I have decided to indulge you guys...

http://th02.deviantart.com/fs41/300W/f/2009/042/8/a/Elemental_Enzogram_by_XN0R.jpg

The next stage is this...
http://th07.deviantart.com/fs44/300W/f/2009/151/0/5/ENZODEIMAXION___Para_Nexus_II_by_XN0R.jpg

I develop this from the ground up in my article which will be released here (http://occultsciencejournal.com/) if all goes well...

I believe Rodin's "Vortex" Math (btw this was my favourite word when I was about 3 years old) is the key I was looking for.

This involves: Hebrew(27), Runes(24), Arabic(28), Tibetan(30), Sanskrit(54)

If you know about Dogon Metaphysics you will be able to decipher this.

Guide Signs
Master Signs
World Signs

Try reading Laird Scranton's books on the Dogon. I'm re-reading "The Science of the Dogon" (book 1) at the moment...
..."Sacred Symbols of the Dogon" (book 2) is more about how Egyptian Hieroglyphs developed from Dogon Metaphysics.
These two books have put my personal quest (since April 1997) into context.

The complete works (as I see it) will be in my article - I work mostly visually; a friend suggested I write all this down.
I am very grateful for the suggestion.

Originally, I was working on a PhD with (tetrahedral HgTe) nanocrystals and came across Stan Tenen, then Nassim Haramein.
(I bought his 4 DVD set a while ago.)

I began developing a computer model to solve the The Quantum Confinement Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_well#Quantum_confinement) anomaly - but I got sidetracked.
My left-brain seemed to switch off.
I also got Drunvalo Melchizedek's two books on the "Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life".
(A bit trippy - but opened up a whole new vista for me.)

Recently my brain seems to be balancing itself - hence the article is taking shape. :cool:

Seriously though, this Rodin stuff is what I needed...

...strange how things seem to just fall into place like that - amazingly wonderful... I feel privileged to be among you. :)

I can't wait to share the rest of it - once I fully integrate my hemispheres! :D

sadukan.

"over it is 19 (http://www.virtuescience.com/19.html)"[74:30]
(DiYu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#Eighteen_levels_of_Hell))18 Levels of Hell
Philip LeMarchand (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/)
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/LamentTN.jpg
Wei-Qi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game))

[measle_weasel]

That guy needs to shave his shoulders... or put on a T shirt.

[sadukan]

I found a guest article on the more conventional Enneagram by Rodin on this (http://www.virtuescience.com/enneagram.html) site.

I'll call my own version the "Enzogram"(X1) and Rodin's the "Vortex"(X2).

The "Enzogram (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/042/8/a/Elemental_Enzogram_by_XN0R.jpg)" (above) is based on Laleh Bakhtiar's "Sufi Enneagram (http://www.sufienneagram.com/overview.html)".
The central "Hall of Amenti", is an important feature which I haven't seen properly dealt with yet.

It represents the underlying structure of the base10 coding - which is base3.
This was mentioned by Rodin, but not demonstrated.
(Though I haven't watched the whole 4 hours yet!)

When you move from one "StarGate" to another (X2 circuit) - the "8" and "1" switch places.
This cancels out the inner Triad of Amenti (the 10, 11 and 12 with the 3, 9 and 6 respectively.
[NB - being careful to avoid confusing my base3 code for Rodin's base10.]
The 9 isn't cancelled, as such.

I guess you could call this (by analogy to the movie) a "Wormhole".
The "Hall of Amenti" through the Net(h)er-World of the Duat - connecting you to Osiris.
A door of perception perhaps...?
[NB - I use yang=negative, yin=positive (not "conventional" I know).]

This is also relevant to the "no line between 6 and 9" concept and the central pillar or axis.
It also explains why, in the movie, you need "7 symbols".
The Enzogram is based on a 1/7 sequence; also En=9, Zo=12.

7 symbols of the Enzogram (X1 Stargate) to plot a course and destination (X2 Wormhole).
Enzogram(X1) + Enzogram(X1) = Vortex(X2)
:eek:

I must be the geek. I wonder where Sha'uri is...? <3:rolleyes:

Ra is (obviously) the angry dude at number 9. :p

Btw, I use alchemical/wuxing symbols - which I relate to the hetu.
The order is (again) not conventional - I received this order in a dream.
It relates to the Dogon "10 woven fibres" - one wound opposite to the other.

I was intuitively doing this with geometry without realising the numbers aspect in the way Rodin explains - AMAZING!!!

I turned the circular Enzogram into a hexagon; then a hexagram.
Then I turned it into a hologram by copying itself in the "X2" circuit.
I arrived at this "Eye of Horus" (below).

http://th07.deviantart.com/fs44/300W/f/2009/151/0/5/ENZODEIMAXION___Para_Nexus_II_by_XN0R.jpg

[I've called this the "Osiris Grid" since about 2004.]

This connects to a copy of itself 12 times.
I didn't have a way to explain it before in terms of numbers.
[13 instances and 1 to encompass them all]=> 14.

I was just following a logical sequence of progression in a visual manner.

http://th02.deviantart.com/fs41/300W/f/2009/042/8/a/Elemental_Enzogram_by_XN0R.jpg

See that when the 8-1 flip occurs, each inner triad point switches from a corner to its opposing edge.
(eg the inner corner of 0 [Thoth] - ends up between 1 [Anubis] and 2 [Maat].)
We can now build the full semitonal sequence like this (http://home22.inet.tele.dk/hightower/zodiac.gif).

I can make other lateral connexions to Term Functor Logic and Syllogisms too - I go into that in my article.

All this suggests the Paramasaika Mandala of the TaiXuanJing - a dualing of base3 bigrams into tetragrams.
The base4 series is important later on.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/060/c/3/Xian_Tai_Hsuan_by_XN0R.jpg

The leading diagonal is Rodin's X2 Wormhole "Vortex" - each edge is the X1 StarGate "Enzogram".

How I used the notation is that Thoth:=0=>10, Anubis:=1=>11 and Maat:=2=>12... the lower order of magnitude.

This is a "bit-reduced" 1, 2, 3 progression - which provides Gurdjieff's "shock points" and completes the full semitonal scale.

I always say there are 14 parts to an octave:

13 is the overlap of 12 onto 1; the 14th part is all of them as the Duat.

This makes a spiralling sequence, or "order of magnitude" - the X2 Wormhole based on 14.
[a dual 7 forming a pair of X1 StarGates!!!]:cool:

This number 14 then suggests the cuboctahedral form of Nassim's IVM (Buckminster Fuller utilised this in his "Synergetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergetics_(Fuller))").

We are told the 14 parts of the Body of Osiris are "strewn across space" (as the Vector Equilibrium).

Compelling, no...?

sadukan.


"over it is 19 (http://www.virtuescience.com/19.html)"[74:30]
(DiYu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#Eighteen_levels_of_Hell))18 Levels of Hell
Philip LeMarchand (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/)
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/LamentTN.jpg
Wei-Qi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game))

*EDIT - page#19: 1+9=10=1 - in reality there really only is one "number" - zero as a single digit boolean negative.
0=>00=>(1+1+1)+(1+1+1)+(1+1+1)/(1+1+1)+(1+1+1)+(1+1+1)=1 [9/9=1]
This means Thoth is the basis principle of the whole system.
Thoth[0] writes the number "2" on the tablet with the feather of Maat[2].
Thus, the feather[2] weighs/records more than the heart[1].
A double negative [0] makes a positive [2] and the balance point is [1] - Anubis; halfway between.
Which is why birds have 2 wings and fly upwards!!! :p :D

[barbitone]

Could you kind've ellaborate a little Sadukan? I'm not well versed enough in your way of putting it. I didn't really get anything from that last post....

Are you saying that you have come to understand such things as the geometry of equalibriam and the enneagram etc, by deciphering scriptures and ancient writings etc?:confused:

[sadukan]

barbitone,

err - mainly, I'm just reiterating the same information - but from a different perspective... visually/symbolically.
I'm also extrapolating it into a coherent system of Metaphysics.

...I'm not sure what else to say right now, maybe you could ask a few questions?

(This is why I'm writing an article!)

I'd like to ask a few questions...

I want to know what else Rodin has explained regarding the conventional Enneagram - so if you have any info on that...?
(I'll watch the rest of his presentation today - hopefully.)

I got up to the part where he unveils the toroidal vortex map.

Reminds me of Lawnmower Man (I might watch that later too!).

Perhaps the Kyron Chip is in this somewhere...?
[I think it is related to Jose Arguelles and his "Master Time Molecule".]

In fact fr0sty has already posted a picture exactly like the MTM.
It seems to be a penteract - a clue for you.
Here is some more "information (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYnNegWsFE)".

Does the toroid map involve some kind of resonance - is that one way to explain the "doubling" (X2) circuit?

Btw, your summary videos on this were excellent - I watched those first and saw the parallels immediately...

I think I get the basic number principles now, though like in Rodin's video, there is much to extrapolate from this process.

sadukan.

"over it is 19 (http://www.virtuescience.com/19.html)"[74:30]
(DiYu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#Eighteen_levels_of_Hell))18 Levels of Hell
Philip LeMarchand (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/)
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/LamentTN.jpg
Wei-Qi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game))

*EDIT - Re: the 8 and 1 switching places - on your left palm is written the number "81" and on the right "18"
(arabic notation like this: ΛI - IΛ) these are the lines/wrinkles of each hand - 81+18=99=18=9

[riseball]

I really like Barbitone's pattern on post #103 showing all the number patterns. I've been playing with these myself and found another pattern with the fibonacci sequence.

() = 3,6,9's are the grid or matrix which occur every fourth number occillating.
If you take the sum of the three numbers in between an interesting pattern occurs (4,8,7,5,1,2 between the 3,3,9,6,6,9,3,3) Rodin's doubling pattern.

1 1 2 (3) 5 8 13 (21) 34 55 89 (144)
1 1 2 (3) 5 8 4 (3) 7 1 8 (9)
4 (3) 8 (3) 7 (9)

233 377 610 (987) 1597 2584 4181 (6765) 10,946 17,711 28,657 (46,368)
8 8 7 (6) 4 1 5 (6) 2 8 1 (9)
5 (6) 1 (6) 2 (9)

75,025 121,393 196,418 (317,811) 514,229 832,040 1,346,269 2,178,309
1 1 2 (3) 5 8 4 (3)
4 (3) 8 (3)

[riseball]

Sorry, the formatting made this look a lot more confusing than I anticipated.

[riseball]

http://cid-79b93aad7185b48d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rodin%20Math/Cube%20Numerology%20-%20Hollow.JPG

[riseball]

I am having trouble posting an image directly on this thread, can anyone help?

[mane]

^http://qot6jw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pvRINqOlUzgDRgXFdHaHsdfbBmdBy4ZJfYGDYNdxHt_EfRqN DBAltNdR_WUe4V5ZNM1wqZO_qCx_3qp0km6x9GQ/Cube%20Numerology%20-%20Hollow.JPG

(Look for the tool bar above the text box and to the right is a square with a mountain in it, of which you click and paste the direct link of the image you are posting.)

[riseball]

Thanks Mane, I figured it out, my internet settings weren't allowing me to see the image.

[riseball]

http://cid-79b93aad7185b48d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rodin%20Math/PRIMES.JPG

http://cid-79b93aad7185b48d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rodin%20Math/PRIMES.JPG?lc=4105

[mane]

http://cid-79b93aad7185b48d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rodin%20Math/PRIMES.JPG

http://cid-79b93aad7185b48d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rodin%20Math/PRIMES.JPG?lc=4105

http://qot6jw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pkER51LYr8TylXzorPZfzmPZt455Ky-WGmrHyzxiYOfzz16UancbJN782IPmAm0YNo2mQ4nkWz-oy_eWGFclQZg/PRIMES.JPG

1-7-4; 2-5-8; 3-6-9; 4-1-7; 5-2-8; 6-3-9;

..as the pattern ensues through 9, I suppose it goes--

7-4-1; 8-5-2; 3-6-9...

There is linear movement within the patterns, and an oscillation of 3-6.

[mane]

Could somebody make sense of this for me?

1 = 0.999 recurring into infinity

I think of this--
Will a frog that can only jump half of the distance towards its destination ever cross the street?

[hank_scorpio]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Technology/Heliopter+like+maple+seeds+create+vortex/1686968/story.html
http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.calgaryherald.com/technology/heliopter+like+maple+seeds+create+vortex/1686968/1686979.bin
OTTAWA — Scientists who study how flies and hummingbirds hover can now explain another mystery: how a maple key with its peculiar, helicopter-like spin, stays airborne so long.

The papery, one-winged seeds can stay aloft far longer than most falling seeds, sometimes travelling a full kilometre on the wind and helping the tree plant its offspring far and wide.

How?

The spiral motion of falling keys turns out to generate a vortex of air — a swirl shaped like a tornado — just above the leading edge of the keys as they spin slowly to the ground.

This "leading-edge vortex" creates an area of low air pressure above the maple key, like the low pressure above an airplane wing.

By sucking the maple key upward, this opposes gravity, and it gives the maple key twice as much lift as seeds that fall without swirling.

The study comes from Wageningen University in the Netherlands and the California Institute of Technology, NASA's partner in the Jet Propulsion Labs. It is published Friday in the journal Science.

The Dutch-led team also says that maple keys (and other tree seeds like them) aren't alone in nature. Bats, insects and hummingbirds have all evolved to use a variation on the same trick to sweep their wings back and forth and hover, using the same principle.

Now human aerospace engineers are interested in this approach, which works at speeds and angles where ordinary aircraft and helicopters would stall.

"There is enormous interest in the development of micro air vehicles, which, because of their size, must function using the same physical principles employed by small, natural flying devices such as insects and maple seeds," Caltech's Michael Dickinson says.

His major area of interest is in studying how flies fly, and he is funded by three research offices of the United States military.

Lockheed Martin attempted to develop "maple seed drone cameras" that an aircraft could drop in large numbers for surveillance, but has abandoned the project for now.

For the study, the team spun plastic models of maple keys downward through a tank of mineral oil, forming a swirling vortex of oil that showed up in laser light. They confirmed the findings in a wind tunnel filled with visible smoke.

"Quite a few trees do this," Ottawa naturalist Dan Brunton says. "Kind of makes sense: If you're producing seed way up high, why not have dispersal mechanisms that take advantage of height and wind?

"Ash trees have winged seeds quite like maples, but not stuck together in pairs. Each looks like the blade of a deep water canoe paddle and auto-rotates very well, being swept up and over and around by winds over great distances."

Basswoods (also called lindens) "have seeds suspended under a relatively large wing, looking for all the world like a miniature hang-glider, and travel huge distances." Even elms have seeds shaped "like miniature Frisbees."

The maple key scientists suggest parachute makers might also have something to learn from the keys.

[barbitone]

Could somebody make sense of this for me?

1 = 0.999 recurring into infinity

I think of this--
Will a frog that can only jump half of the distance towards its destination ever cross the street?

Your metaphor is correct in that the frog wouldn't cross the street if you were measuring in increments into infinity.....

There's a few ways to explain the concept of 1 = 0.9999 recurring, I'll have a go; try to imagine the largest number you can, it will consist of all nines for sure right? Not ones or ones and zeros. There would never be a time where you couldn't keep adding nines to your number, you could just keep adding them into infinity. The same goes with the smallest number.....

Unless you were to employ "re-normalisation", you would have to deal with infinity in both directions. That infinity is then in a sense "one".

(note; In Rodin maths, zero and nine are equivalent in that they are both infinities, 9 = ALL, 0 = NONE. In this way, even though it seems paradoxical since everything and nothing are thought of as opposites, they are infact perfect mirrors and resonant with each other perfectly. Like magnetic poles, they are opposites and yet they are one - no paradox.

[barbitone]

Riseball, check out the fibonacci numbers compared by 4 and 6;http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_a150335015084227b6aa69ec4c8ea9b7.jpg

[riseball]

Nice Barbitone, I love how the patterns emerge all so naturally and in different ways as you've shown. I can see Rodins doubling pattern forward and backward in the first and third rows with the fourth row having the 3's and 6's oscillating around the 9's.

I'd like to know what the significance of the 1-8 pair in there is? As there are no 2-7, or 4-5 emerge by themselves.

[barbitone]

Nice Barbitone, I love how the patterns emerge all so naturally and in different ways as you've shown. I can see Rodins doubling pattern forward and backward in the first and third rows with the fourth row having the 3's and 6's oscillating around the 9's.

I'd like to know what the significance of the 1-8 pair in there is? As there are no 2-7, or 4-5 emerge by themselves.

You'll find that if you start the sequence with 2 instead of 1 you will get the next polar pairs 2 and 7, as opposed to 1 and 8..... then with 3 you will get 3 and 6 etc etc....

If you do it all the way to 9 you will have 216 numbers. (24 times 9 = 216) (6 cubed = 216) (2 + 1 + 6 = 9)

[davereed]

here with the work of Harold Aspden. I'm not sure what, but I think it has to do with resonance. Perhaps 2 Rodin coils connected through a load with high voltage Aspden thinks his units would resonate on their own (no need for switching) and download energy from the aether without depleting the voltage source. The load he describes is a transformer between the plates with the power being tapped off the secondary.

I need to read more. Just putting it out there.

Dave

[vlahstar]

http://www.virtuescience.com/great-pyramid-top.gif
Did you know the great pyramid is perfect, but they say the top of the pyramid is not in the middle of the square base and has an error of a quarter of a inch lol . but that is because the modern scientists has calculate wrong the Pi number.
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Pi_eq_C_over_d.svg/180px-Pi_eq_C_over_d.svg.png Circumference = π × diameter

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Circle_Area.svg/180px-Circle_Area.svg.png Area of the circle = π × area of the shaded square

Calculating Pi number
π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, due to Archimedes,[19] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn , of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/4/3/3/433f568efaeb7da81b76d4294cee4ae9.png

That is, the more sides the polygon has, the closer the approximation approaches π. Archimedes determined the accuracy of this approach by comparing the perimeter of the circumscribed polygon with the perimeter of a regular polygon with the same number of sides inscribed inside the circle. Using a polygon with 96 sides, he computed the fractional range: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/6/8/e6887481d95ea41bb98fc610f1c46d93.png


I will say only that his ARCHIMEDES axiom (287-212 BC) resulting from the conclusion that seems logical in our OLD thinking and reference, namely that a circle can be compared and even overlapped with circumscribed polygon with infinite number of sides is not accurate!


The modern scientist will say to you if you give them the TRUE PI NUMBER "Archimedes established margin that included PI: between 3.1408 (223/71) and 3.1428 (22 / 7), so the your result are not included in this interval, so that is false!"

For the moment all the guys out there uses PI=3.1415(....)
but the true Pi number is 3,1446(...) go and measure on terrain!!! practical !!!

PI=4/radical(PHI, the golden ratio = 1.61803399(...)) = 3.14460550981492(...) !!!
http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/courses/gc/golden_ratio01.jpg The Golden Ratio!!! http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMT669/Student.Folders/Frietag.Mark/Homepage/Goldenratio/image19.gif

Facts:
According to the true pi number the diameter of the Large Hadron Collider is smaller with 8.13 meters!
According to the true pi number the GREAT PYRAMID IS P.E.R.F.E.C.T.!!!!!!!
According to the true pi number N.A.S.A. is using the true PI number. lol
According to the true pi number the humans will be able to build more perfect buildings (and durable ffs!!!)
ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PI NUMBER THE MARKO RODIN SINGLE TORUS COIL WILL BE UPGRADED AND MORE EFFICIENT!!! and a little bigger in diameter :))
Correction: PI=4/sqrt(PHI)=3.144605511029693144(...)...without doubt...MEASURED!...But, pay attention, please, about the"PARADOX OF THE SMALL ANGLES"up to sqrt[sqrt(89)]=3.071478656(...) sexag.deg. I'll explain you, later!
See you, please: http://quadrature.ro

V L A H S T A R
Mircea-Mugurel Serban

[mane]

Rodin Coil might be wrong? Interesting point made in this video. I like what this guy is up to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHc1-BNM6-8&feature=related

here is a new rodin coil effects vid by the same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gd1UnFlSUM&feature=related

[barbitone]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_1abbe5d7ea904b429bc62a3cffc9a18d.jpg

[barbitone]

Rodin Coil might be wrong? Interesting point made in this video. I like what this guy is up to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHc1-BNM6-8&feature=related

here is a new rodin coil effects vid by the same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gd1UnFlSUM&feature=related

I can't work out of the DNA structure, is it meant to look like this;http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~huskey/images/DNA_helix_1_w.png

Or this; http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dna-2.jpghttp://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_circultivos/circuloscultivos12_14.jpghttp://www.uic.edu/classes/phys/phys461/phys450/ANJUM04/DNA_helix.jpg

????

[barbitone]

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs110.snc1/5094_1163174432677_1027331104_508396_4413063_n.jpg

[mane]

I'm pretty sure it's this one. The other illustration doesn't show 3 dimensions, and dna is in space of course.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dna-2.jpg

With the 3,6 implications of FNG your illustration may suggest that there would be a space in the construction of the coil.

[mane]

I tried posting this reasoning on jamiebuturff's youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHc1-BNM6-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Fp%3D1078889%26posted%3D1&feature=player_embedded), but I don't know if it worked. For the record--

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs110.snc1/5094_1163174432677_1027331104_508396_4413063_n.jpg
"Just as the 9 is implied in the division to 3,6, the 3,6 are implied in the division to FNG (147, 258), which might suggest that in winding in accordance to FNG the energy's pattern in fulfilled; although, in the logic of Rodin, comparing the spacing of the DNA itself, I see your point. I suppose lab verification will be necessary, but in theory, I'm leaning towards spacing with implications of 3,6,9. It's possible that the ATCG chemical patterns in the zipping of the DNA, which to my knowledge from this image "DNA (http://www.accessexcellence.org/RC/VL/GG/images/structure.gif)" oscillate just as the 3,6 do, account for the 3,6 in such oscillation, despite being physically manifest. Also, there is a hydrogen bond which accounts for the 9 in the sense you present, which is interesting because Hydrogen, with a single electron and proton orbiting a nucleus, is the most pervading element in the universe, and the fulcrum of the DNA system, reflecting the nature of 9."

[jesta_g]

Quickest Hi!

Barbie ive said it before but this thread is the bombay! ill have the net up n running in a week so will be back full steam.

I got many things to go over with you on this. While ive been away ive gone over Rodins (and others) work. this is even mnore mind blowing than we first realised from Rodins work.

Anyway sorry that this is short n sweet. its good to be back with the forum :) My time has literally revolved around my boy and other priorities.


Once again banging thread man!

[musten]

What year was the Rodin's lecture? 2007?

I confess, the first time I saw the video I though "this guy is not from this planet" :eek: Marko seems really cool. I like his lifestyle.

[pedsi]

The Rodin lecture is around 15yrs old as far as I'm aware.:)

[mane]

this is awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3IWkD6W9SQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fjam iebuturff&feature=player_profilepage

[antonovikov]

The Rodin lecture is around 15yrs old as far as I'm aware.:)

Can't be true. What happened since, even if true?

Why no more lectures were revealed? And what about the book Marko mentioned in his lecture? Anyone managed to get one?

[barbitone]

this is awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3IWkD6W9SQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fjam iebuturff&feature=player_profilepage

That's highly impressive and gives the Rodin coil alot of credit to it's abilities.
Nice one!

[barbitone]

Can't be true. What happened since, even if true?

Why no more lectures were revealed? And what about the book Marko mentioned in his lecture? Anyone managed to get one?

Yeah it was made in like, 95 or something. There was a book on Amazon but it was really expensive and disappeared quickly.

Last time I contacted him he said he was working hard with others, to get a good portion compiled and release it on Utube as soon as it was done. But he said it could take a few years or so! I hope he was just being overly dramatic.....

[barbitone]

Quickest Hi!

Barbie ive said it before but this thread is the bombay! ill have the net up n running in a week so will be back full steam.

I got many things to go over with you on this. While ive been away ive gone over Rodins (and others) work. this is even mnore mind blowing than we first realised from Rodins work.

Anyway sorry that this is short n sweet. its good to be back with the forum :) My time has literally revolved around my boy and other priorities.


Once again banging thread man!

Hey dude, thanks man. Hope you can be back here in discussion soon!:D

[maximumgravity1]

Can't be true. What happened since, even if true?

...And what about the book Marko mentioned in his lecture? Anyone managed to get one?

I managed to get a copy of his book a few weeks ago. I think it was a stroke of luck. I did some scouring on the internet and came across a book list someone had and was selling the book. It took a long while to finally get it - but i got it.

There is some interesting info, but most of it is already on the net in some form or other. I haven't gone through it all yet - been busy with other things. But most of what is there is a furhter explanation of the basic concepts outlined in the videos. A few more charts and graphs - and many of the images he used in the video presentation are in the book.

I wrapped a second coil, but havent had time yet to play around with them together. I have some info I am trying to gather on some of Tesla's concepts with his Ozone Patent that i want to incorporate, but am trying to get a friend to help.

Anyway, will keep plugging away as time permits - and post back any interesting findings.

[antonovikov]

About the book: you think it would help if we make it available to public domain?

Would you share and/or sell it?

[mane]

I recorded this song, which is quite relevant to this thread. It's called "Cryptic of Zion" http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7805726

[mane]

*Buoyancy*

[stockstalker]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I just want to point out that vortex math is interesting. But as Nassim Haramein pointed out, in religious texts, symbols, and drawings only the male aspect is ever presented to us. It's up to us to figure out that the "other half" exists, which is why I think Nassim Haramein is brilliant, when it comes to this. Even this medical-vortex-symbol is just the male half:


http://z.about.com/d/chemistry/1/0/M/m/caduceus.jpghttp://blog.yoc2008.com/chainchange/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/vortex2du4.jpg

So, when you recognize that the female half exists as well, and put two and two together you get Haramein's double vortex, which I think makes more sense:

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/dualtorus.gifhttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0701/sn1987a_hst.jpg

[barbitone]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I just want to point out that vortex math is interesting. But as Nassim Haramein pointed out, in religious texts, symbols, and drawings only the male aspect is ever presented to us. It's up to us to figure out that the "other half" exists, which is why I think Nassim Haramein is brilliant, when it comes to this. Even this medical-vortex-symbol is just the male half:


http://z.about.com/d/chemistry/1/0/M/m/caduceus.jpghttp://blog.yoc2008.com/chainchange/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/vortex2du4.jpg

So, when you recognize that the female half exists as well, and put two and two together you get Haramein's double vortex, which I think makes more sense:

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/images/graphics/dualtorus.gifhttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0701/sn1987a_hst.jpg

Of course you are correct. There is a flow to the center inwards and a flow from the centre outwards in both directions simeultaneously to create the perpetual feedback loop.

[j35p3r4d0]

the vortex thing is a simple understanding of material gravity.

what you will find more useful is the direct application of such correlated natural phenomena with the human energy system. These things apply to energy as well, just not in the same form. Infact the dual spiral snake thing has more to do with human energy than natural material phenomena.

Remember: material science has only advanced to its current extends within the last 500 years, long before that most of it was spiritual/energetic.

we express and exist within the constructs of these same observable systems, see the psychic forum within the next 24 hours for an elaboration...

[mane]

pretty cool experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ej11pclxWw&feature=channel_page

check this guy's channel. I haven't looked into a Bedini ssg at all yet. Anybody? He combines it with a rodin coil.

[pedsi]

Just found these.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbM4pQPbZ8&feature=related

[pedsi]

Hey where's the video gone:confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbM4pQPbZ8&feature=related

[jayelowell]

Just found these.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbM4pQPbZ8&feature=related

There they are!;)

I'm back for another visit and I must say you all have taken our topics and touched new dimensions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFBh_wE-FI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzbNn-wSMbg

a must visit!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/theUMMCorg

[jayelowell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NYU2m5cGaI

[barbitone]

Thank you jay!!!!!:d:d:d

[sadukan]

Did you notice that the character in the movie Iron Man loosely resembles Marko Rodin? (At least with a vivid imagination like mine)
Tony Stark even has his own 'bespoke' power source which is a kind of coil attached to his chest.
Also, 'Iron' is of course magnetic [cf. Rodin's comment about "He who controls magnetism, controls the universe" @ 02:20 here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7sOrxT8Zi4)]
Then there's his comment about scriptures being a code for particle physics.
Funny that sura number 57 of the Koran is named "Hadid" (Iron/Magnetism); interestingly, iron has a stable isotopic variant of atomic weight 57 - Fe-57 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron-57#Table).
This takes the family group 1-4-7 and collapses the first two numbers 1+4=5 to give 57. Of these 26 are protons and 31 neutrons.
Is the Koran a periodic table of elements?

sadukan.

PS I'm still working on decoding Arabic separately from Hebrew - Hebrew forms a circle (or a square loop) and Arabic forms a pyramid (or triangle).
I call these the "Triad" and "Cubic" form of Dogon Metaphysics (http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/966.html) - which I can't stress enough.
19x6=114, 19x8=152, 114+152=266, 266+22=288
266 is the number of possible string interactions symbolised as the seeds of Amma's Egg ("aama" - is Ancient Khemetic for "Tree of Knowledge").
Could this "Tree" be like a Torus with its roots and branches touching?

"over it is 19 (http://www.virtuescience.com/19.html)"[74:30]
(DiYu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#Eighteen_levels_of_Hell))18 Levels of Hell
Philip LeMarchand (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/)
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/LamentTN.jpg
Wei-Qi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28board_game%29)

[jayelowell]

...just uploaded yesterday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LauHFOsGAXQ

[foobar]

There's no real mathematical or scientific innovation happening here. It's schizoid-form 'salad speech' that happens to involve mathematical and scientific terms. Sadly, many people can't tell the difference.

[riseball]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrMn0_0Phs

I was noticing the interesting arrangement of the numbers for the frequencies in the circle. The numbers start 1-9 for each first digit, then at a different interval 1-9 for the middle digits, then finally 1-9 for the last digits. I thought this was interesting, plus I like the music, I can feel it resonating somehow with me.

[barbitone]

There's no real mathematical or scientific innovation happening here. It's schizoid-form 'salad speech' that happens to involve mathematical and scientific terms. Sadly, many people can't tell the difference.

Errr...what? :confused:

[fr0sty]

"I claim to be able to make a man made black hole,ok?" Marko Rodin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbM4pQPbZ8

:eek::eek:

[fr0sty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bhs-Bv9HSk
Rodin coil experiment.
Check my comments
This is a Patent Pending device. I seem to have been able to magnetize a steel rod on only one end with only North energy and no South. Here is a quote from 4 prominent mathematicians (Allan Greenleaf, Yaroslav Kurylev,Matti Lassas, and Gunther Uhlmann) In their paper (Dated: July 12, 2007) they state,"a magnetic dipole situated near one end of the wormhole would appear to an external observer as a magnetic monopole."

The idea here would be to create 2 coils in resonance and these coils could be miles apart from one another. This would be like a teleportation device for objects much like Tesla's wireless transmission of electricity.

[musten]

Great news to watch and listen Marko again.
In the never before released lecture seems still young (like in the old 1994? lecture), great color and skin, but in the 2009 interview seems older. The video says 2008, just 1 year difference.

I think Marko and Nassim must meet each other and find the way to work together. And this forum deserves Marko and Nassim threads sticky!

Thank you so much for all these great information, guys, I love you. ;)

[fr0sty]

Great news to watch and listen Marko again.
In the never before released lecture seems still young (like in the old 1994? lecture), great color and skin, but in the 2009 interview seems older. The video says 2008, just 1 year difference.

I think Marko and Nassim must meet each other and find the way to work together. And this forum deserves Marko and Nassim threads sticky!

Thank you so much for all these great information, guys, I love you. ;)

peoples changes :) or maybe he's playing around to much with his Coil :D
Marko is 53 years old..

[sadukan]

Ok, brace yourselves...

I've been considering how all this fits into my visual model.
After watching "The Lawnmower Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_%28film%29)" I noticed a strobe of images when Jobe is entering into VR for the first time.
I paused the dvd and skipped frame by frame to take a good look.

These images include:
Pentacles (http://www.marysia.com/pagan/saturn_pentacles.gif) (with Hebrew letters) - flashing images emerging from a vortex,
Diamond Vortex Grid (Rodin's Abha Torus) - in the VR World,
A Toroid with radial emanations,
Hexagonal Grids (http://a4.vox.com/6a00cd972aa36b4cd50109d0fc222c000f-pi) (A semitonal harmonic) - floor tiles in the Lab,
A Dual Torus (http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/musings/torus.php#inte) oscillation - tv monitors next to the MATs (http://www.spacecamp.com/media/images/multi-axis%20trainer%203.jpg) (cf. Contact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_%28film%29)).

http://www.scifitv.com.au/Content/Blog/Pictures/lawnmower_man2.jpg

In Lawnmower Man 2 they have a "Kyron Chip (http://videodetective.com/photos/145/006122_21.jpg)" ("XP" - chi-ron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiron)) which is like a tetrahedron with 3 triangles on each side.
Jose Arguelles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obqp5M5C6bE) has 4 of these "Time Atoms" as a cubic "Master Time Molecule (http://www.lawoftime.org/content/7777PracticalTimeMagick.pdf)":

Rainbow Bridge - part 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd2v9NS7LXY)
Rainbow Bridge - part 2 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szF1my0ShV4) (@1:13)

These octahedral "units" are the basis of the spinning Mer-Ka-Ba (http://xn0r.deviantart.com/art/Thoth-Star-130653960).

This suggests a Fibbonaci (http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/numrolg2.gif) basis for a pattern related to Rodin's.
In practical terms, it seems to be the winding pattern of his coil design.
It may symbolise an equatorial disc as a flat sheet extending to infinity.
And, this could be the missing link to Nassim's work on the IVM.
From a single to a dual torus - with a "zeropoint" in the centre.
(Or maybe 1 "zeropoint" and 1 "infinitypoint" - blackhole/whitehole feedback system.)
This would be based on the number 12 (or 12+1=13 like with the "Eye of Horus (http://th07.deviantart.com/fs44/300W/f/2009/151/0/5/ENZODEIMAXION___Para_Nexus_II_by_XN0R.jpg)").

I realise this may seem "far out" and "unscientific" - that is the nature of right-brained consciousness.

More "right-brained" stuff here:
Black Sun and 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDF1Ux_1vwQ)
notice (@6:15) you can see Rodin's VW symbol (http://www.theinfovault.net/vault/science/rodinscoil_files/page253_1.png) in the architecture of the roof lattice to the top left!

I think this "Black Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_%28occult_symbol%29)" involves both Nassim's IVM and Rodin's VBM.
I remember Nassim saying it was the powersource of the Ark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE19ZsqAoLA) and was given to Humankind by the "Sun Gods -pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2_LhmSygBQ)", pt2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGZsju3a_W4&feature=related), pt3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkzbmEVgKiw&feature=related), pt4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyCPfQla36o&feature=related).
The Ark (wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant)) is a double-cube with the same dimensions as the "sarcouphagus" inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza).
It is said that the Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II_of_Babylon) (after sacking the First Temple of Solomon) stole the Ark and perhaps dismantled it.
Nassim indicates that the original Black Sun powersource of the Ark still exists today.
It is now in a broken state as the Black Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone) set into the East Corner of the Kaaba in Mecca. ("Kaaba" means "cube".)
It is also interesting to note that historically, the Kaaba used to contain 260 "idols" - which brings to mind the Tzolkin of 260 days.

One eventual application of both the IVM and VBM could well be the construction of a new and fully functional Ark.

So, my next thought was that maybe there were other ways to display the same system from another viewpoint.
Or even extend it. In that sense, I already know what to expect. My method will be to "reverse engineer" it.

I have already found that the "Eye of Horus (http://xn0r.deviantart.com/art/Eye-of-Horus-130653593)" has a 3-9-6-6-9-3 pattern radiating from its centre.
It also deals with the full 12 semitonal octave (with harmonic on the 13th note).
(btw, there is a prophecy about "72 pure ones" - erroneuously rendered "virgins"; count the small white dots in the Eye of Horus => 72)
No, I am not the Mahdi. :rolleyes:
I forgot to mention Gurdjieff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._I._Gurdjieff), though his source is possibly the Naqshbandi Sufis (http://www.sufienneagram.com/) of Central Asia.
Rodin seems a bit guarded about the Enneagram (http://www.sufienneagram.com/overview.html) and the Inner Triad (the "Binary Triplet" - see the PDF below).

So, why all these tangents and lumping of ideas?
I'm trying to provide the necessary connections to enable progression and connective integration between:
Stan Tenen (http://www.meru.org/Posters/Ennearubik.html) - on Hebrew (First Light (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-208619888961779202))
Drunvalo Melchezedek (http://www.drunvalo.net/bio.html) and the Flower of Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_Life) (Sacred Geometry pt1 (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6911535176514673390))
Nassim Haramein (http://theresonanceproject.org/) and the Isotropic Vector Matrix (http://theresonanceproject.org/graphics.html) (part1 (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335) / part2 (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1895475242307393956))
Marko Rodin (http://www.rense.com/RodinAerodynamics.htm)'s Vortex Based Math (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165) (PDF (http://www.scribd.com/doc/18010022/Rod-In)) <---a 68 page "Rodin Solution Project" PDF!!!
Jose Arguelles (http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html) and the Mayan Factor

I can't go into all the details here.
There is just no way to explain this simply with Left-brain linearity.
("a picture paints 1000 words").

What I can tell you is that there is a coherent way to describe all of the above into a single framework based on sound principles.

This involves:

Alchemy (Daoist philosophy, Theology, Metaphysics)
Logic (Term Functor Logic, and Syllogisms)
Kabbalistic Tree of Life
YiJing Hexagrams
Tetractys
Enneagram (Ennead of Heliopolis)
Zodiac
Transactional Analysis
WuXing
Hetu
TaiXuanJing Tetragrams
Geomancy
Mayan base20 counting (Tzolkin, Tun etc)
DNA code
Yggdrasill (Runes - Ogdoad: "Ygg-doad")
Fundamental Particle Physics - plus extrapolation into E8
"Enfoldment" of Pi as a rational number
The 216 name of G*d
The 288 Fallen Sparks of Shevirah
Oriental Game of Wei-Qi/Baduk
Khemetic Game of Senet
Dogon Physics
Partzuf Model of Jacob's Ladder.

You'll just have to wait for my completed article. :p

sadukan.

PS Or work it out for yourselves. ;)

"over it is 19 (http://www.virtuescience.com/19.html)"[74:30]
(DiYu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#Eighteen_levels_of_Hell))18 Levels of Hell
Philip LeMarchand (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/)
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/LamentTN.jpg
Wei-Qi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28board_game%29)

[musten]

Hanging out with Marko Rodin inventor of the rodin coil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nojw9GSYMRU)

Marko Rodin's : ) WHAT IS A HIPPIE? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4wngRc9nzY)

[foobar]

Errr...what? :confused:

Exactly what I said. This is mathematically and scientifically meaningless. It's mystical nonsense dressed up in scientific language with a few simple (and well understood) electromagnetic effects demonstrated that make people who haven't previously been into physics or electrical engineering go 'wow look at that! he must be on to something!'.

[jbignes5]

Exactly what I said. This is mathematically and scientifically meaningless. It's mystical nonsense dressed up in scientific language with a few simple (and well understood) electromagnetic effects demonstrated that make people who haven't previously been into physics or electrical engineering go 'wow look at that! he must be on to something!'.

Explain to us what you mean. Your proofs that this has no significant meaning to Humanity. You come here and trash 20 years worth of work with only a few words. Even seasoned electrical engeneering techs go wow there is something to this. So explain in detail what you are saying or get off the box.
What is the well understood principles you aretalking about? Because from what I can tell no one has gone in this direction except for a few and then they are treated just like you have done.
What are thoese effects that you point out that are well known? Is it the designing of a coil that has 60% more magnetic strength then anything that has been done before? Is it the priciples of using harmonic resonance to attain more then we previously have recorded from the equivelent coil?

[3_3_3]

sorry if someone already posted this but these look really similar.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_f120afec987541c7bea78ecdc48e93c1.jpg

http://www.rybeck.com/masonic_square.gif

coincidence?

[jayelowell]

sorry if someone already posted this but these look really similar.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_f120afec987541c7bea78ecdc48e93c1.jpg

http://www.rybeck.com/masonic_square.gif

coincidence?
Not at all!!! We got to understand that the information that we are just becoming aware of has been common knowledge to the higher up! As said in the video, Marko presented this info to George Bush.

[jayelowell]

this forum deserves Marko and Nassim threads sticky!
...they once were stickys!!!

[3_3_3]

Not at all!!! We got to understand that the information that we are just becoming aware of has been common knowledge to the higher up! As said in the video, Marko presented this info to George Bush.

thats what i meant. does the compass and set square represent what rodin presents?

[riseball]

I believe the Mason's symbol is related to circling the square or squaring the circle. I am currently reading "The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life" by Drunvalo Melchizedek, a great book by the way, which explains where the symbol is derived from sacred geometry. Something I wish to explore further myself and is said to have the phi 1.618 ratio within it as well. However, I do believe it relates to Rodin's work possibly but for instance the angles of his symbol are different to that of the Mason's symbol.

[dood55105]

Hey Barbitone! Excellent thread, I am really glad you started this thread! I plan on posting some things I found.

Although I was curious and wanted to ask. In one of Rodin's videos he says that his system creates prime numbers? Anyone understand how that works?