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erikneo
14-07-2007, 04:00 AM
Go Change your youtube video "If you have Any" tags to the same tags as the video in youtube home page"Most popular" instead of making tags like Nwo ,illuminati ...whatever.This Will bring Lots Of New Views.Wich is what we need.

:)

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:03 AM
Awakening has to do with watching youtube videos???
I think not.

erikneo
14-07-2007, 04:04 AM
Wtf?

john white
14-07-2007, 04:05 AM
Go Change your youtube video "If you have Any" tags to the same tags as the video in youtube home page"Most popular" instead of making tags like Nwo ,illuminati ...whatever.This Will bring Lots Of New Views.Wich is what we need.

:)

Cracking suggestion :D

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:07 AM
No it's not, it's shit.

dondaz
14-07-2007, 04:08 AM
It's a good idea, untill they catch on!

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:10 AM
OK.
I'm sorry, I'm drunk and perhaps being a little cryptic ;)
What I meant to say was...
If you want people to awaken
Stop trying to make them believe
The lie that you believe to be true.

oneofmany
14-07-2007, 04:12 AM
Why are you worrying about "Waking up the masses"? Concentrating on this is just like the Jehovah Witnesses knocking on YOUR door spouting their rhetoric. You need to concentrate on organising the people who are already enlightened to what this is all about than pouring all your energy into people who have bought into this reality hook line and sinker. They will either "get it" or they will run a mile, either way, YOU will not be contributing factor to their awakening, that is a personal journey that they have to CHOOSE.

john white
14-07-2007, 04:13 AM
LOL! Planting seeds is a hobby of mine: all part of gardening!

We cannot un-hear what we hear or un-see what we see: we can only accept or reject it: and if it is truth, we can only deny it, or inevitably be transformed by it

And if we do deny, each act of denial is an extra strain on the Ego-Wall

sooner or later: that wall will fall

I can see this needs the right material: but with the right material, the cumulative effects could be significant

Anywhere, the idea is there for anyone who wants to, and irrelevant for anyone who wants not to

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:15 AM
Why are you worrying about "Waking up the masses"? Concentrating on this is just like the Jehovah Witnesses knocking on YOUR door spouting their rhetoric. You need to concentrate on organising the people who are already enlightened to what this is all about than pouring all your energy into people who have bought into this reality hook line and sinker. They will either "get it" or they will run a mile, either way, YOU will not be contributing factor to their awakening, that is a personal journey that they have to CHOOSE.

Agree 95%
However...
Anyone who has realised enlightenment will realise that the conspiracy malarky is completely and utterly insignficant.

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:17 AM
LOL! Planting seeds is a hobby of mine: all part of gardening!

We cannot un-hear what we hear or un-see what we see: we can only accept or reject it: and if it is truth, we can only deny it, or inevitably be transformed by it

And if we do deny, each act of denial is an extra strain on the Ego-Wall

sooner or later: that wall will fall

I can see this needs the right material: but with the right material, the cumulative effects could be significant

Anywhere, the idea is there for anyone who wants to, and irrelevant for anyone who wants not to

Yes and what is beyond that wall?
The infinite, all knowing...
Which realises that this is just a game.
It has no importance past that the ego gives it.
In fact it is ego that creates it.

Ego is illusory therefore anything given credit by ego is illusory.

oneofmany
14-07-2007, 04:18 AM
Agree 95%
However...
Anyone who has realised enlightenment will realise that the conspiracy malarky is completely and utterly insignficant.Exactly, Realising that it is "Just A Ride" is the ultimate goal of this whole journey for mine. A place a lot of people just don't get to.

john white
14-07-2007, 04:20 AM
Yes and what is beyond that wall?
The infinite, all knowing...
Which realises that this is just a game.
It has no importance past that the ego gives it.
In fact it is ego that creates it.

Ego is illusory therefore anything given credit by ego is illusory.

Does that mean I am not allowed to play?

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:25 AM
Does that mean I am not allowed to play?

Of course not.
You play as long as you like.
You define the rules...
(As you know.)
For as long as you wish to remain God in Amnesia. :)

john white
14-07-2007, 04:28 AM
Of course not.
You play as long as you like.
You define the rules...
(As you know.)
For as long as you wish to remain God in Amnesia. :)

Well thats OK then: its good to be busy whilst one is "here" (I decided ;) )

erikneo
14-07-2007, 04:37 AM
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erikneo
14-07-2007, 04:40 AM
Stop trying to make them believe
The lie that you believe to be true.


Youre right there no conspiracy,go back to sleep...
Sorry guys it was a stupide idea,
If i could delete this tread i would.
I guess i can't make the world a better place...

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:42 AM
Youre right there no conspiracy,go back to sleep...
Sorry guys it was a stupide idea,

People confuse awakening with learning about the conspiracy.
When properly awakened (ie. to your true nature - Who Are You?)
You will realise that the conspiracy exists only in your head.
There it will live, forever and ever
If you keep giving it all this attention and energy.

phoebe
14-07-2007, 04:43 AM
Youre right there no conspiracy,go back to sleep...
Sorry guys it was a stupide idea,
If i could delete this tread i would.
I guess i can't make the world a better place...

Of course you can.
But it starts with you.
As ever and always.

erikneo
14-07-2007, 04:57 AM
Youre right there no conspiracy,go back to sleep...
Sorry guys it was a stupide idea,
If i could delete this tread i would.
I guess i can't make the world a better place...


That was Sarcasm.


How did you wake up phoebe?if you don't mind me asking?

phoebe
14-07-2007, 05:10 AM
That was Sarcasm.


How did you wake up phoebe?if you don't mind me asking?


I realise it was sarcasm ;) :)
I woke up when I realised that I was never asleep.
I was just daydreaming.
Daydreaming meaning believing the hype.
Falling for the bullshit.
Being completely taken in by my thoughts.
Thinking that there is really anything other than consciousness.
There are those that wish you to remain in a state of fear. To be ignorant of your true nature. To be taken in by those fearful thoughts.


For help, look to Alan Watts, Adyashanti and other non-dualistic 'teachers'.

erikneo
14-07-2007, 05:23 AM
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For help, look to Alan Watts, Adyashanti and other non-dualistic 'teachers'.[/QUOTE]

I Will...

I Think tho this tread started with alot of misinterpretation.
But thats prob just me.

i_am
14-07-2007, 05:37 AM
I think it is a great idea erikneo.

While I know (or believe I do) and concur with what phoebe means there are many ways of approaching this. If you try to 'awaken' people to infinite love, oneness and the fact that it starts with you, they may think that you are a wee bit off the planet.

Sometimes they need to start to see the illusion by being shown that things they have taken as truth all of their lives, are in fact lies. Some people become aware of the conspiracy stuff first and move on from there. With others it may be the other way around. I think by doing what you suggested, you are exposing people who would not have even looked at things that were concerned with NWO, conspiracies etc, to a different view of the life they believed was real. From there they may explore more and find themselves on a forum such as this, where spirituality is covered as well as conspiracies.

I personally started with metaphysics and branched out in all directions from there. Anything we can do to wake people up (as opposed to awaken as that is up to them) has to be a good thing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics
Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the ultimate nature of reality, being, and the world.[1] Its name derives from the Greek words μετά (metá) (meaning "after") and φυσικά (physiká) (meaning "after talking about physics"), "physics" referring to those works on matter by Aristotle in antiquity.[2] Metaphysics addresses questions that have existed for as long as the human race - many still with no definitive answer. Examples are:

What is the meaning of life?
What is the nature of reality?
What is mankind's place in the universe?
Does the world exist outside the mind?
What is the nature of objects, events, places?

carlg1212
14-07-2007, 08:24 AM
Why are you worrying about "Waking up the masses"? Concentrating on this is just like the Jehovah Witnesses knocking on YOUR door spouting their rhetoric. You need to concentrate on organising the people who are already enlightened to what this is all about than pouring all your energy into people who have bought into this reality hook line and sinker. They will either "get it" or they will run a mile, either way, YOU will not be contributing factor to their awakening, that is a personal journey that they have to CHOOSE.


The uninformed are far more important than the enlightened...the uninformed are why we are here in the first place.

1 2 free
14-07-2007, 09:38 AM
The idea that we shouldn't be trying to wake everybody up seems strange coming from people who post of a David Icke forum. I post here because David Icke woke me up. And Bill 'it's just a ride' Hicks helped a lot too. And now that I'm awake I feel it's my job to share information with others. Just as David is sharing information with others.

cruise4
14-07-2007, 11:33 PM
People confuse awakening with learning about the conspiracy.

Whats the difference?

When properly awakened (ie. to your true nature - Who Are You?)
You will realise that the conspiracy exists only in your head.

What conspiracy? What measure is passed to 'know' properly awakened.

There it will live, forever and ever
If you keep giving it all this attention and energy.

So what you don't think of, doesn't exist?

This is ridiculous mumbo jumbo with no meaning, infused with rhetoric to avoid answering others questions. You say this stuff Phoebe and I actually want to understand what 'your' point of view means. Not that much of an ask is it? I don't understand this angle, and judging by all the unanswered posted questions on this, neither do those spouting this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying the premise is wrong, its just another idea. Its the words used that are meaningless drivel. Surely someone can enunciate their viewpoint better than this?

dark86
15-07-2007, 05:00 AM
it seems to me that some people are too cool for cats e.g "i woke up years ago and have read a, b and c".

it is better to have 5m people who are awake that 1m who are super uber enlightened and read 4000 books to leer over noob awakeners (hey a new word :D)


i only 'woke up about 3 weeks ago and my head has been spinning but from what i see there is some snobbery online and there is some cyberpeople who only care about arguing about "what they know" and "what they believe".

its sad, rise above it.


awakening people is a good thing, and should almost b a duty.

sweet cheeks
15-07-2007, 06:14 AM
Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics
Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the ultimate nature of reality, being, and the world.[1] Its name derives from the Greek words μετά (metá) (meaning "after") and φυσικά (physiká) (meaning "after talking about physics"), "physics" referring to those works on matter by Aristotle in antiquity.[2] Metaphysics addresses questions that have existed for as long as the human race - many still with no definitive answer. Examples are:

What is the meaning of life?
What is the nature of reality?
What is mankind's place in the universe?
Does the world exist outside the mind?
What is the nature of objects, events, places?

Web definitions for philosophy
doctrine: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school

FUNNY THING ABOUT "BELIEFS" IS THAT THEY CONTROL YOU. People have even KILLED for their "beliefs" - imagine that.....

:rolleyes:

i_am
15-07-2007, 06:32 AM
FUNNY THING ABOUT "BELIEFS" IS THAT THEY CONTROL YOU. People have even KILLED for their "beliefs" - imagine that.....

:rolleyes:

I do believe that is your belief, however, it is not mine.

We all have beliefs. They don't, however, control all of us. It would be a sad world if we did not believe in anything. Killing for one's 'beliefs' needs to have an underlying hate, fear, dogma, fanatacism or other negative thought process attached to it.

sweet cheeks
15-07-2007, 06:48 AM
I do believe that is your belief, however, it is not mine.

We all have beliefs. They don't, however, control all of us. It would be a sad world if we did not believe in anything. Killing for one's 'beliefs' needs to have an underlying hate, fear, dogma, fanatacism or other negative thought process attached to it.

Precisely!

cheeb
15-07-2007, 04:10 PM
FUNNY THING ABOUT "BELIEFS" IS THAT THEY CONTROL YOU. People have even KILLED for their "beliefs" - imagine that.....

:rolleyes:

Hwww.youtube.com/watch?v=8WPOWbT,as Has anyone seen this

SLA- A tribute (to the music of wild horses)

Patty Hearst was kidnapped in 1974
by the SLA,
Her randsome note ,was for her father Randolf Hearst,(newspaper magnate
Parodied in Citizen Kane)
To distribute food to the poor of San Francisco.

This was done,£6 million guids worth,
but there were riots and logistical problems.

Miss Hearst (now calling herself Tania) got attached to the Urban Geurillas,
(Copenhagen Syndrome)

And went on to rob banks, and commit Revolutionary Acts.
She got arrested after fleeing a shoot-out
with the police.
In which founding member Cinq Mtabe 111, died in a fire,as well as other members.

I'm not advocating violence
(there are a lot of key/trigger words here)

It just makes an interesting fable,warning,
as to what happens when people try to destroy the system using violence.

POE
Tt
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