Healthy Eating = Food Brainwashing

[baron von lotsov]

(Syndicated from the UKIP forum)

No apologies for the Orwellian title, since Newspeak was all about negatives, e.g. the Ministry of Love and that sort of thing. So what can one say about the global governance agenda of healthy eating? Well try this for size:

Engineering and Technology, January 16th-30th pg 72

Referring to Unilever’s plans to build R & D centres to address the so-called highly competitive food market we hear that:


The centre of excellence for drinks, for example, which opened last year at the Colworth science plant in the UK, claims to be focusing on producing beverages with ‘real benefits’. Plans to develop ‘healthier’ versions of the entire beverage range are already underway.
Take weight management tea. This is a key market for Unilever and the business is currently pouring huge amounts of research cash into studies on the effects of so-called catechins – tannins found in green tea – on body fat.
“Catechin does seem to have an effect on body shape,” says centre of excellence executive Phil Evans. “And we have already launched products in France and Italy that contain high levels of this compound.” The centre will also be looking to develop products that contain high levels of an amino acid called L-theanine. This also occurs naturally in tea, and studies indicate that at doses found in just two to three cups, the chemical increases alpha brainwaves, which are associated with a relaxed and alert mental state.


So can you spot the deliberate lie in that? Do you know what the alpha brainwave state really is? I guess most would have read this without a second thought, and trusted the technical blurb.

An alpha brainwave state is like a hypnotic state, and it is well known to make the mind more susceptible to suggestion, especially the subliminal kind used in television and that sort of thing. It is a state of mind where the higher centres of the brain that deal with logic, forward planning, deductive reasoning and so on are not functioning. It’s a kind of dream state, and of great interest to the brainwashers for obvious reasons. Just two to three cups will do it. Maybe only one cup once they have the fluoride in the water!

[baron von lotsov]

As per usual, I mention some original research and proof and you lot ignore it.

[baron von lotsov]

And plus some NWO operative has awarded me yet another gold star!

[chris]

As per usual, I mention some original research and proof and you lot ignore it.

dude you left it like an hour...you do this on every one of your threads...if you want to see some posts sink faster than the titanic, just look at mine.

But to comment on your original post...The health industry every now and then likes to create a new fad around a certain molecule, it's difficult to tell whether the ones they are putting in are from simply capital purposes or eugenics but I usually think of it as the former even though the latter seems to be the result.

[baron von lotsov]

dude you left it like an hour...you do this on every one of your threads...if you want to see some posts sink faster than the titanic, just look at mine.

But to comment on your original post...The health industry every now and then likes to create a new fad around a certain molecule, it's difficult to tell whether the ones they are putting in are from simply capital purposes or eugenics but I usually think of it as the former even though the latter seems to be the result.


Yes but the scoundrels have admitted to it! This is what sets this apart from general conspiracy theory and aliens. PROOF

[darketernal]

I've got a background in nutrition and I stand by a general rule for food and drink: If you cannot find it in large enough quanties in nature to consume it consistently, it is not healthy to ingest... and there are things which the above apply to which you still should not put into your body. ;)

[baron von lotsov]

I've got a background in nutrition and I stand by a general rule for food and drink: If you cannot find it in large enough quanties in nature to consume it consistently, it is not healthy to ingest... and there are things which the above apply to which you still should not put into your body. ;)

OK well you could be a great help to me here. Can you tell me whether that compound is in green or black tea? The article refers to green tea with the first compound but does not specify whether it is green or black that the brainwashing chemical comes from. My intuition points to it being green tea, since that has been pushed as a healthy drink by the PTB, apparently because it is an anti-oxidant. Mind you, since it is mostly consumed in communist China and the Muslim fanatic Middle East then it could explain a great deal.

[darketernal]

It would be green tea Baron. They are talking about L-Theanine which I have never heard of before. L-Threanine is an amino acid which I am familiar with, as there are 20 which are involved in normal human biological functions (8 of which are essential and your body cannot produce and must be consumed in your diet or you will die). Apparently it is a different amino acid, found in all tea, but in higher concentrations in green tea. It supposedly reduces anxiety, so could be beneficial in making a population more docile (floride in the water supply also does this).

I'm not a huge fan of tea drinking anyway, simply because I've never seen any evidence that there are any health benefits to consuming it over clean water. We could argue about the anti-oxidants in green tea, but if you eat a healthy diet with enough vegetables and fruit, you already get those, so it is only truely beneficial if you eat badly. I personally would rather get my anti-oxidants from vegetables and fruits because you get many other additional nutrients as well as fiber (which is something lacking very much in modern diets).

In any event as it doesn't seem to be an amino acid the body needs for any reason, I would be rather reluctant to introduce it into the human diet in signifigant quantities. Then again that has never stopped the PTB or the food industry before... so much shit is marketed as food that should be classified as a dangerous drug (hydrogenated oils, HFCS, sodium nitrate, etc).

[baron von lotsov]

Cheers for that. It has been helpful to give me some further insight into this scam. I mean if it were needed by the body one would guess the compound would be well known about. I did check the spelling, since I had to copy the article from a paper publication, and I did spell it correctly. The publication, by the way, is not for the general public, it is an engineering journal for members of the IEEE, and you need to be a professional engineer to stand a chance of becoming a member. The journal is absolutely full of shit, most of it pushes the global warming agenda, but it is a goldmine of information when it comes to nailing these cretins.

[darketernal]

Cheers for that. It has been helpful to give me some further insight into this scam. I mean if it were needed by the body one would guess the compound would be well known about. I did check the spelling, since I had to copy the article from a paper publication, and I did spell it correctly. The publication, by the way, is not for the general public, it is an engineering journal for members of the IEEE, and you need to be a professional engineer to stand a chance of becoming a member. The journal is absolutely full of shit, most of it pushes the global warming agenda, but it is a goldmine of information when it comes to nailing these cretins.

I also looked it up because it was spelled so similarly to an amino acid humans DO need, and yes there are multiple studies available online about it, and all of them state it is found almost exclusively in tea, with green tea being the most concentrated.

Baron you know me I love a good reptilian talk, but I do have a passion for nutrition and nutritional science, and because I have an eduction in this field, I'm very much aware of the problems that revolve around the dietary changes that have been pushed so heavily on us in the modern age. That subject alone could fill at least a thousand page conspiracy book, easily... all backable by proven research. They know the masses are eating poison, and nutritionists have been repeatedly shut down by laws and food corperation"special interests" from stopping this juggernaut. Many people diets in the western world are so bad it is amazing they can survive for several years on them.

I never got around to grad school but was a duel major in nutritional science and psychology after I got out of the system, and had two professors who had said if I persued grad school they would back me on my theory if I did it for graduate work, my theory being that I felt it could prove defeciencies not addressed by prenadal vitamins in the American diet should show a measurable loss of IQ in the current generation of young children growing up from the previous generations, due to reduced development of neural pathways in the brain in utero and early childhood. I actually discussed it for several hours with these two professors at lunch after a psychology class one day.

People are not educated on nutrition in my country, even college graduates, and are taught blatant disinformation in their lower education.

[darketernal]

Baron the one that amazes me is when the American Dietetic Association lobbied and screamed for Congress to outlaw transfats in ALL food in the US a number of years ago, because it is something that countless research has shown to be dangerous to even in trace amounts, in the long term.

Instead, Congress compromised and required all food labels list the amount of trans fats in the products. However due to pressure from food manifactures who did not want their production of poison disrupted they agreed to another compromise with went unannounced to the public in the legislation. The most common type of trans fat used by food manufactures (partially hydrogenated oils, usually soybean or cottonseed oil that has been hydrogenated), was legally classified as "not a trans fat", dispite every single independant study showing the body processes fully hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils the same, and they have the same effect on the human body.

So now you have tons of foods in the US with this huge label on the front "0 GRAMS OF TRANS FATS!" on the front that read zero on the back, that have the exact same amount of trans fats they did before the law, and it is so rediculous that there are foods that are over 50% trans fat by weight with this label on them. Then you have ignorant consumers who think they are up to speed on healthy eating who only look at the nutrition label and not at the ingrediant list who are still poisoning themselves and their families with this shit... while the PTB laugh their asses off and eat their organic and clean food. It is not like they lied to you. They have not hid any of the studies which show the horrific effects of this compound on your body, and they put it right in the ingrediant list, so they can technically claim the masses CHOSE to poison themselves.

[baron von lotsov]

I stick to the raw ingredients and I cook it all myself, so I know what goes in it. Even though I can't say I had any education in nutrition, I reasoned that what I was eating was shit. I mean the sure way to know this is to try switching to a proper diet and then observe how different you feel. I stopped getting ill, I felt more awake and had more energy and so on, and that was it for me, I never touched any of this shit from that time onwards, almost 20 years ago.

However my interest is in mind-altering chemicals and I had suspected it for a very long time but never found any real proof. Soya is probably the other one where there is some scientific evidence, but this is now and this is what they are doing in 2009 in Britain. The agenda has moved on and now the New Agers push weird and obscure 'natural' things that I’m certain are selected because of their psychoactive ingredients. I see the effects where I live and the IQ has dropped to unbelievable proportions. It's like a lot of them are in a permanent state of tripping, and it is diet orientated, and we have some local experimental evidence of this. Even the New Agers are beginning to suss it out.

[darketernal]

The phytoestragens in soy lower testosterone levels and sperm count in men. It is in everything. Find one brand of bread, even natural healthy ones, without soy in them, or any processed food without soybean oil in it. It is to lower reproductive rates, and increase rates of certain types of cancers of the reproductive organs, as well as to push the n-6 to n-3 ratios (which are already dangerously high in the western world due to grain based diets) even higher, becuase the polyunsaturated fats in soy are n-6... which promotes stronger inflamitory responses in the body (strokes, asthema, arthritis, heart attacks, blood clots etc).

Of course some MD's will argue the soy produces lower cholesterol levels than eating something red meat in place of it, but they fail to address the other factors that contribute to the problems with poor lipid profiles lead to (strokes, heart attacks etc) as well as the understanding that a higher n-3 to n-6(keeping in mind soybean oil is n-6) ratio will result in a better lipid profile with a reduction in the body's inflamitory responses rather than an increase in them which happens as the result of a long term high n-6 intake.

[boots]

Great and a very informative thread.

Is coconut oil the best to cook your food with?or how about lard?

[darketernal]

Boots cooking with any type of oil is horrible, but if you MUST you are probably better off going with extra virgin olive oil (in the GLASS bottle... never consume an oil that has been stored in a plastic container) or lard or some kind of organic butter (do NOT use any butter substitutes they are x10 worse for you than butter). Keep in mind olive oil has a very low smoke temperature though. Virtually any other type of cooking oil has been at least partially hydrogenated, bleached etc... then stored in a plastic container. When you cook an oil you damage many of the beneficial compounds in it, as well as increase a number of carcinogens in it. Some of the negative compounds created by frying sterilic acid (the saturated fat found in pork and beef fat) can be reduced by mixing in diced up garlic, according to some studies, but in any event pork of beef fat, dispite potential negatives, is still a better choice than most cooking oils on the market.

Edit: the same rule on the garlic applies to grilling burgers... finely dice up some fresh garlic and mix it into your burgers before grilling. ;)

[boots]

Those butter substitutes are disgusting as is margarine.

Yep Olive oil is the best. But you can only get it in large quantities in a tin container, if I am correct, tin leads to Alzheimer.

Thank you very much for the info.

Edit: My missus is one stubborn woman so it's hard to change her habit's but I reckon she will go for the garlic in the oil trick.

I have heard that too much raw garlic can act like a poison. Have you heard this or come across any info on this?

[airkraft]

I`ve just started on a milk and milk products free diet

What has been promoted to me as alternatives are Soya milk for my daily cuppa, soya spread as a butter substitute, and soya yoghurts (fruit and chocolate) instead of normal yoghurt.

Are these any good, or have I gone out of the frying pan and into the fire ...so to speak.

Is there a decent substitute for milk products if soya is not good.

[darketernal]

Those butter substitutes are disgusting as is margarine.

Yep Olive oil is the best. But you can only get it in large quantities in a tin container, if I am correct, tin leads to Alzheimer.

Thank you very much for the info.

Edit: My missus is one stubborn woman so it's hard to change her habit's but I reckon she will go for the garlic in the oil trick.

I have heard that too much raw garlic can act like a poison. Have you heard this or come across any info on this?


The tin is subject to debate. I've not seen much for or against this, but then again I don't eat canned food that often so do not worry about it.

It has long been suspected aluminum soda/beer cans and aluminum cookware are a major contributing factor in Alzheimers, but I do not think there is any direct correlational data to support this. My mother, who was from a well establish elite line, believe this and did not own a single kitchen product for food made of aluminum. She was an RN and worked in hospitol administration, before she was killed.

[darketernal]

I`ve just started on a milk and milk products free diet

What has been promoted to me as alternatives are Soya milk for my daily cuppa, soya spread as a butter substitute, and soya yoghurts (fruit and chocolate) instead of normal yoghurt.

Are these any good, or have I gone out of the frying pan and into the fire ...so to speak.

Is there a decent substitute for milk products if soya is not good.


Are you lactose intolerant/allergic or have a problem with casien? What is your ethnic background(s)? FYI if you are lactose intolerant you may still be able to handle yogurt and kefir fine.

No I would not recomend soy in this case. You are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire as you put it. You could try rice milk perhaps, or just avoid milk completely.

[darketernal]

Those butter substitutes are disgusting as is margarine.

Yep Olive oil is the best. But you can only get it in large quantities in a tin container, if I am correct, tin leads to Alzheimer.

Thank you very much for the info.

Edit: My missus is one stubborn woman so it's hard to change her habit's but I reckon she will go for the garlic in the oil trick.

I have heard that too much raw garlic can act like a poison. Have you heard this or come across any info on this?


Too much of any herb is potentially dangerous, in theory. It depends on what you consider too much. Dicing up one or two pieces of a garlic clove for 1-2 kg of ground beef is not excessive. Are you on any prescription blood thinners, or missing any clotting factors in your blood (free bleeder). Actually in the case of prescription blood thinners if you lower your intake of n-6 fats and eat more greens you'll have to have your dose lowered also. Excessive garlic can be a problem also if you suffer from chronic stomach ulcers or IBS. However no I would not recomend you eat a kg of fresh garlic a day, as your wife would not find you pleasant to be around, however you are unlikely to get bitten by a mosquito ever again.

Edit: Edit: Baron sorry if answering these questions is taking you off topic. Let me know, and I'll have them take them up some other place.

[fuggles]

I've got a background in nutrition and I stand by a general rule for food and drink: If you cannot find it in large enough quanties in nature to consume it consistently, it is not healthy to ingest... and there are things which the above apply to which you still should not put into your body. ;)

give an example , that makes no sense,

[darketernal]

give an example , that makes no sense,

The majority of the articial ingrediants or heavily modified foods that have a chemstry that is nothing like anything found in foods (trans fats, refined sugars, preservatives). Eating massive amounts of grains, particularly corn, or eating animals that have been grown on grains is a problem (grains are only found in abundance if cultivated and humans do not process them as well as many other plant based food sources and grains are purely n-6 for their polyunsaturated fat). If you look on a food lable and there are ingredients that are not something you can pick or kill yourself in the wilderness, that require a laboratory to create, this is not something your body has evolved to consume. Many of them you can process, but with major negative chemical effects in the body, or you fail to digest them properly which leaves various compounds in your body which as a foreign substances you body doesn't have a use for or a way to rid itself of, have long term negative effects. Many of these effects are known, and documented by extensive research, and dispite the cries of nutritionists and some better informed medical doctors, remain in your food. People are then socially programed to not care, until they develop some type of cancer at 35 or 40, have a heart attack, severe asthema, arthritis, diabetes long before they are elderly.... or try to have children in their 20's or 30's only to find their sperm count is low or their testes of ovaries have suffered damage. Your food is being genetically modified, without longitudinal studies being done on the effects of eating each of these food types after the modification is done. Floride is being dumped into your water, when the effects (lower sperm count, more docile behavior, calcification of the pineal gland) have been documented, under the excuse of better health for your teeth.

You are being poisoned, having your children's IQ's lowered due to the development of fewer neural pathways, having your reproductive organs and sex hormones tampered with to lower reproductive rates and it is being done knowingly and intentionally... using economics and capitolism as the blanket excuse.

These are only the physical effects, without getting into the effects these things have your energy field, pineal gland etc.

People are eating substances in place of food, that their bodies were never designed to handle, and are being starved of much of what their bodies and minds need to be healthy.

[motleyhoo]

Nutrition is becomng a passion of mine also. Here in the states one cannot rely on the theory that eating well would preclude having to supplement, and that eating a healthy amount of fruits and vegetables would give one enough vitamins, antioxidants, etc.

The problem is, our soils have been so industrially farmed, some farms planting the same crop again and again for years, that our food no longer contains a lot of elements such as trace minerals that a human body needs to maintain good health. In order to get the food to grow they have to dump tons of oil-based NPK chemicals onto their soil. Organic food is much better, but unless you know the farmer you still have no idea what the soil it was grown in is like.

I am currently experimenting with a product called Nature's NOG in my own garden. It is made from sea kelp and 10,000 year old humatic material from a specific layer in the Rocky Mountains.

The problem I have with these companies isolating the active ingedient of a healthy food and selling it that way is that that single ingredient does not naturally operate in a vacuum. In its natural state, it is operating in synergy with many other compounds. Because tea has some effect, and a certain ingredient is in tea does not mean that ingredient isolated into a pill is going to have that same effect or have it in the same way.

[seanx]

darketernal wrote:

The majority of the articial ingrediants or heavily modified foods that have a chemstry that is nothing like anything found in foods (trans fats, refined sugars, preservatives). Eating massive amounts of grains, particularly corn, or eating animals that have been grown on grains is a problem (grains are only found in abundance if cultivated and humans do not process them as well as many other plant based food sources and grains are purely n-6 for their polyunsaturated fat). If you look on a food lable and there are ingredients that are not something you can pick or kill yourself in the wilderness, that require a laboratory to create, this is not something your body has evolved to consume. Many of them you can process, but with major negative chemical effects in the body, or you fail to digest them properly which leaves various compounds in your body which as a foreign substances you body doesn't have a use for or a way to rid itself of, have long term negative effects. Many of these effects are known, and documented by extensive research, and dispite the cries of nutritionists and some better informed medical doctors, remain in your food. People are then socially programed to not care, until they develop some type of cancer at 35 or 40, have a heart attack, severe asthema, arthritis, diabetes long before they are elderly.... or try to have children in their 20's or 30's only to find their sperm count is low or their testes of ovaries have suffered damage. Your food is being genetically modified, without longitudinal studies being done on the effects of eating each of these food types after the modification is done. Floride is being dumped into your water, when the effects (lower sperm count, more docile behavior, calcification of the pineal gland) have been documented, under the excuse of better health for your teeth.

You are being poisoned, having your children's IQ's lowered due to the development of fewer neural pathways, having your reproductive organs and sex hormones tampered with to lower reproductive rates and it is being done knowingly and intentionally... using economics and capitolism as the blanket excuse.

These are only the physical effects, without getting into the effects these things have your energy field, pineal gland etc.

People are eating substances in place of food, that their bodies were never designed to handle, and are being starved of much of what their bodies and minds need to be healthy.

Very good posts, especially for those who stil live in the
mass consciousness of the rules of dietary health.

But what about the people like Jasmuine who live without eating?

Is there an energy around us that we can be nourished on
without depending on solid foods.

i KNOW this will not apply to the MAJORITY of people who would
regard such an idea as madness.

But what are your thoughts on this?

[airkraft]

Are you lactose intolerant/allergic or have a problem with casien? What is your ethnic background(s)? FYI if you are lactose intolerant you may still be able to handle yogurt and kefir fine.

No I would not recomend soy in this case. You are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire as you put it. You could try rice milk perhaps, or just avoid milk completely.


No, as far as I`m aware I`m not lactose intollerant/allergic, and dont have a problem with casien. My ethnic background is white european. I decided to drop milk and its products because of a video from a link in a thread on these forums that I watched, i cant remember where it is now. The reason I chose to try it, was that I saw myself suffering from some of the symptoms that you get from having the stuff in your diet.

I enjoy a cuppa so i will go without any sort of milk in it from now on since soya isnt that good. But....I always have mueseli for breakfast, so need some sort of milk to use....I will try rice milk, if i can get hold of it.

[motleyhoo]

As long as the milk is organic, having some in coffee or tea, or on a bowl of cereal is not going to be a problem (IMO). Just don't drink it by the glass.

A curious phenomenon - the conventional milk industry claims that their milk is better, but a carton of organic milk will last 5 to 6 times as long in my fridge. That ought to tell you something about which one is better. Obviously, the overly processed, chemical-filled conventional milk has all of the good bacteria killed, while the bad bacteria are left to thrive and get stronger with every generation from the massive amounts of antibiotics and hormones those cows are given.

[baron von lotsov]

You know an interesting thing I noticed the other day, and that was that I found I was in the dire position of having to buy a pot of supermarket jam rather than the proper stuff. On the jar it had exactly the same ingredients but was completely tasteless. How do they manage to do this? One would have thought that blackcurrants were blackcurrants, but apparently not!

[motleyhoo]

They were probably using GE or hybridized fruit (designed for quantity, not quality) that was grown in depleted soil.