View Full Version : Would you use a Ouija board?
loner
11-04-2009, 08:56 PM
The way i figure it is that if religion says divination is 'bad' then it really might be good and useful!
There has always been stories about how Ouija boards bring in 'evil spirits' etc, but i want to ask if you think they might be useful. Suppose that reality is really lots of different frequencies in the same space, and a ouija board simply allow us to tune into spirits from another frequency - why is that bad or evil? Suppose YOU was contacted by a ouija board from 'out there', well you are not evil so why should other spirits be either????:confused:
marpat
11-04-2009, 09:00 PM
I see no problem with divination and some religions do use it but christianity tends to be against anything that comes from sources other than approved ones. Even Saul consulted the witch of Endor!!!
Personally I have never been into the board. It just nevers appeals to me. It looks like some grannies parlour game.
lostwonderer
13-04-2009, 05:45 PM
Yes i would. I've tried it a few times in the past where no problems have occured.
tomahawk
13-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Yes i would. I've tried it a few times in the past where no problems have occured.
Luck of the draw, when/if you open the door to malevolence you will know all about it.
If you know how to protect yourself from spirits,
know how to communicate with them without angering them and so on...
Go ahead, use the quija board. If not, stay far away. Those boards are not a joke.
If you want to learn divination, starting with Tarot cards is the safest method. :)
loner
13-04-2009, 07:52 PM
If you know how to protect yourself from spirits,
know how to communicate with them without angering them and so on...
Go ahead, use the quija board. If not, stay far away. Those boards are not a joke.
If you want to learn divination, starting with Tarot cards is the safest method. :)
have you used it?
if you dont know what you are doing, stay well away from it.
It can be dangerous and you can open the door to any kind of cling-on or manevelant spirit.
If you know how to protect yourself and have worked with energy and spirit comunication before, then go ahead.
As all things, it can be used for both positive and negative ends... and it can work both ways, ie, the spirits can use it for both positive and negative ends.
thenymph
13-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Yes i would. I've tried it a few times in the past where no problems have occured.
I've tried it a few times before but nothing has occurred ... am I doing something wrong, or do things not always happen ?
kingmonkey
13-04-2009, 10:54 PM
Yeah, same here,tried it a few times but it never worked. I tried scrying once or twice, that seemed to screw me up for a few days afterwards though.
jahzel
13-04-2009, 11:15 PM
It's not wise to play with Ouija Boards, I've heard about people's houses suddenly catching fire - all kinds of bad stuff happening.
14april2000
14-04-2009, 01:10 AM
No i would stay far away from any form of esoterisme - i have been into it in the past, but i find it very dangerous.
j_shell
14-04-2009, 03:15 AM
My sister once had an unpleasant experience with one of these boards. she was not taking it seriously as many people don't. Her and her friend were in a camper trailer we had in our back yard while they were doing it, and suddenly her friend screamed, claiming she felt someone scratch her with something sharp. They both got out damn quick, the next day when my sister worked up the courage to go back in she opened the door and a cat ran out! this scared her bad. She was dead certain there was no cat in there when they were, we didn't own a cat and the doors and windows were closed all night. This cat hung around our house for about 2 years before dissapearing. Still not sure what went on neither is my sister.
dainis bophary
14-04-2009, 03:23 AM
Me and some friends tried it once, but nothing happened. Most of my mates found it a joke, they weren't mature enough to understand how it works. :rolleyes::D
kingmonkey
14-04-2009, 03:25 AM
The only person I know who tried one and it actually worked hung himself. It was years later and probably not connected though...
crystaljunkie
14-04-2009, 03:49 AM
We knew someone who tried with a board and drew a nasty experience which haunted her and her familly for years afterwards. My fella went round to get rid of it and when he saw it and he said that it was like a big warewolf animal and was very scrawny with wiry fur, it walked up the walls. When he said that it was like a dog, she asked how he knew that.
It would climb onto her bed at night and attack her, her boyfriend and even the staffy dog - which was almost killed in one attack.
It has since been sorted though, if in doubt always ask for the higheest protection.
This beast / whatever was got rid of with the help from Archangel Michael who is a great and powerful ally should things go awry.
i'd never use one, there are much easier and safer ways of contacting higher beings.
Altho i saw an 'Angel board' a while ago that looked really nice and cute, the box was lavendar with an angel on it. On the back though is a pic of the Angel board, and it is a ouji board, pure and simple, just gimicked up! Scarry.
metacomet
14-04-2009, 04:23 AM
The way i figure it is that if religion says divination is 'bad' then it really might be good and useful!
Ouija boards and other forms of ritualistic channeling are not 'divination'.
If you open any object to possession, whether it's a moving glass under your hand or your own mind (channeling) - you are placing an order to the 'other side' to spit out anything .
Is this really good and useful? I don't mess with it. It's not about being scared or superstitious, it's about having knowledge. It's ignorant to mess with something if you know it can lead to problems.
banjoreality
14-04-2009, 02:24 PM
I personally believe that channelers and wouiji board practitioners are all victims. Many species are multidimensional and manipulate through channeling etc... It's all a big fucking red cosmic herring, we are the lemmings and they own the play station.
Understand that you don't.
14april2000
14-04-2009, 03:04 PM
I you talking about aliens, reptilians, illuminati bloodlines or just evil people etc?
I believe people are far more manipulated through the media and tv than channeling.
With correct "procedures", protection and knowledge, you are probably just channeling your own higher self, not some lower astral quack.
I also think there is way too much disinformation about channeling on this website, which makes me raise the question: "why?"
David Icke channeled when he did ayahuasca and people don't seem to be bothered by that... :rolleyes:
In the hands of someone who might have unnoticed talents with spiritual things,
the quija board can be a great tool OR extremely dangerous. This is also why it doesn't work in the hands of everyone.
But once again, if interested in divination, don't start with the Quija board.
Tarot cards, mirrors, water, flame and so on are good ways to start and RARELY cause problems.
loner
14-04-2009, 08:31 PM
Thank you for replies everyone.
I have decided what i am going to do now.
people are saying 'don't do it unless you have got experience' and i need to protect myself. I read this story where some people did a ouija board in their house and after that their house got haunted and they had to sell it and move.
so i figured instead of doing it in my house, i could drive my car and park someplace far from where i live. Then i would be protected cause if the shit hits the fan, it wont affect my home.
On the experience thing, i have read these booklets called 'the ouija board diaries' and they tell of this mans sessions with his board in a old building. He wrote down what was said by him and what they told him. So i think i could borrow words from those books. But i would be happy if someone could suggest some stuff i could say.
At the end of the day the only way to get experience is 'just do it!'.
After all the conflicting reports i have heard, I need to find out the truth about ouija boards for myself.
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 08:35 PM
The way i figure it is that if religion says divination is 'bad' then it really might be good and useful!
There has always been stories about how Ouija boards bring in 'evil spirits' etc, but i want to ask if you think they might be useful. Suppose that reality is really lots of different frequencies in the same space, and a ouija board simply allow us to tune into spirits from another frequency - why is that bad or evil? Suppose YOU was contacted by a ouija board from 'out there', well you are not evil so why should other spirits be either????:confused:
They're great, but they're not for total utter beginners.
Learn how to centre yourself and banish or exorcise first.
toty1994
14-04-2009, 09:01 PM
In my late teens/early 20's I used to play with ouija boards more than was strictly healthy. It 'told' me I was going to die April 12 1982. Being young and very gullible I totally accepted that my demise was imminent. Obviously it didn't happen but it could have become a self-fulfilling prophesy - I was prone to depression at the time. So..I think they can be dangerous.
Incidently it gave me another year for my death soon afterwards...2010:eek:
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 09:12 PM
In my late teens/early 20's I used to play with ouija boards more than was strictly healthy. It 'told' me I was going to die April 12 1982. Being young and very gullible I totally accepted that my demise was imminent. Obviously it didn't happen but it could have become a self-fulfilling prophesy - I was prone to depression at the time. So..I think they can be dangerous.
Incidently it gave me another year for my death soon afterwards...2010:eek:
Ouija boards aren't about truth IMO, they're a form of surrealism.
Surrealism is only good if you can selectively invest deep belief in it to programme your unconscious expectations.
If you can, then you're closer to the deep mind's machine code. Lucky you.
If you can't, don't fuck with it unless you want to get your fingers burned.
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 09:25 PM
My sister once had an unpleasant experience with one of these boards. she was not taking it seriously as many people don't. Her and her friend were in a camper trailer we had in our back yard while they were doing it, and suddenly her friend screamed, claiming she felt someone scratch her with something sharp. They both got out damn quick, the next day when my sister worked up the courage to go back in she opened the door and a cat ran out! this scared her bad. She was dead certain there was no cat in there when they were, we didn't own a cat and the doors and windows were closed all night. This cat hung around our house for about 2 years before dissapearing. Still not sure what went on neither is my sister.
The ouija board has similarities with the automatic drawing methods used by Austin Osman Spare. He was a man of many feline familiars, and random things assosciated with him still attract gangs of pussy cats.
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 09:29 PM
Me and some friends tried it once, but nothing happened. Most of my mates found it a joke, they weren't mature enough to understand how it works. :rolleyes::D
Treating it like a joke is a safe way to deal with it.
Personaly I use it for channeling power words and simple divinations as well, but I only do that with a full protective circle and a siutably benign entity watching over.
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 09:38 PM
I believe people are far more manipulated through the media and tv than channeling.
With correct "procedures", protection and knowledge, you are probably just channeling your own higher self, not some lower astral quack.
I also think there is way too much disinformation about channeling on this website, which makes me raise the question: "why?"
David Icke channeled when he did ayahuasca and people don't seem to be bothered by that... :rolleyes:
In the hands of someone who might have unnoticed talents with spiritual things,
the quija board can be a great tool OR extremely dangerous. This is also why it doesn't work in the hands of everyone.
But once again, if interested in divination, don't start with the Quija board.
Tarot cards, mirrors, water, flame and so on are good ways to start and RARELY cause problems.
Some very good points.
Your exposure to subliminals and conditioning will effect you as a channeler, because it will effect your brain, the sensations that you think with, and it will effect how far you can go with grasping new sets of concepts.
If channeling wasn't a strain, I'd probably preffer it to watching TV.
The way i figure it is that if religion says divination is 'bad' then it really might be good and useful!
There has always been stories about how Ouija boards bring in 'evil spirits' etc, but i want to ask if you think they might be useful. Suppose that reality is really lots of different frequencies in the same space, and a ouija board simply allow us to tune into spirits from another frequency - why is that bad or evil? Suppose YOU was contacted by a ouija board from 'out there', well you are not evil so why should other spirits be either????:confused:
A friend and I tried it when we were teenagers. Nothing happened, we felt like idiots.
mauviene
14-04-2009, 10:08 PM
Can it give me power?
element
14-04-2009, 10:24 PM
I would never do such a thing.
I've seen ghosts and it's not something I would like to provoke.
Those that do come are earthbound souls, who are very unhappy, afraid/detached from truth, materialists etc.
What do you want to achieve with it?
I don't think you'll call a fine chap you knew..souls that have finished their things on earth have no reason to be invited or become attached to earthly relationships.
deathcultreject
14-04-2009, 10:41 PM
Can it give me power?
If you have to ask . . .
. . . you won't 'get' the answer.
metacomet
14-04-2009, 11:28 PM
In my late teens/early 20's I used to play with ouija boards more than was strictly healthy. It 'told' me I was going to die April 12 1982. Being young and very gullible I totally accepted that my demise was imminent. Obviously it didn't happen but it could have become a self-fulfilling prophesy - I was prone to depression at the time. So..I think they can be dangerous.
Incidently it gave me another year for my death soon afterwards...2010:eek:
'It' was nudging you towards a certain direction.
Death dates etc. given from beyond are gentle nudges toward suicide or terrible accidents.
This is all way beyond the average ouija board users understanding. They always talk about it in retrospect like they knew exactly what was going on, don't you think?
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 12:28 AM
'It' was nudging you towards a certain direction.
Death dates etc. given from beyond are gentle nudges toward suicide or terrible accidents.
This is all way beyond the average ouija board users understanding. They always talk about it in retrospect like they knew exactly what was going on, don't you think?
The average style of ouija board has never worked when I've been present.
I preffer my adapted version where we cast a full ceremonial protective circle, call in a previously chosen entity which is appropriate to the direction we'd like to develop in, and one person at a time will put their finger on the glass and maybe shake etc. untill the glass starts moving independantly of the ego.
That way everyone else can protect whoever wants to channel, and we can review the material further with scrying mirrors (which is a safer method than having your arm guided by an entity)
This way, we don't just get yes no answers etc, we get power words and new concepts and sometimes mandalas and descriptions of new entities which we might find interesting (once we've put them through more safety checks after the ritual)
I'll only practice it with someone who's worked through a decent amount of magical training and even then I'll have to know how far I can trust them.
It's better to be a tortus with a safety belt than a hare who ends up in quicksand.
I've never tried it for lottery numbers or stuff like that, it's more for evolution and magical development.
lottie
15-04-2009, 12:47 AM
Why do people want to do ouja boards and tarot and such things? What is it people want to know so badly?
I'm genuinely interested... i used to have readings done etc (years and years ago) but tbh i dont really know why...or what for? What use does knowing a few bits of vague and random information do?
With the Ouija...i think you're best staying well away... spirits are in another world /the other side for a reason, they arn't meant to communicate with us for a reason... leave them there until such a time when you're enlightened as to why!
I messed with them as a teen and thank god nothing serious happened but ive heard of many things that have to others... read up and do your research on such things before you do anything...ask yourself if you really want to be meddling with things you dont understand properly and is what you hope to gain from it worth it if it all goes wrong?
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 01:03 AM
Why do people want to do ouja boards and tarot and such things? What is it people want to know so badly?
I'm genuinely interested... i used to have readings done etc (years and years ago) but tbh i dont really know why...or what for? What use does knowing a few bits of vague and random information do?
With the Ouija...i think you're best staying well away... spirits are in another world /the other side for a reason, they arn't meant to communicate with us for a reason... leave them there until such a time when you're enlightened as to why!
I messed with them as a teen and thank god nothing serious happened but ive heard of many things that have to others... read up and do your research on such things before you do anything...ask yourself if you really want to be meddling with things you dont understand properly and is what you hope to gain from it worth it if it all goes wrong?
Research has shown that a group of mediums / channelers etc. can invent a non existant dead person, and get the same kind of results doing seance things with them as they would with a dead person who really existed.
So . . . considering that PK events happen around these things, its a tool for designing and creating desireable realities.
The question is how to make a safe engine when so many people have burned theirselves with discovering fire.
merlincove
15-04-2009, 02:26 AM
Research has shown that a group of mediums / channelers etc. can invent a non existant dead person, and get the same kind of results doing seance things with them as they would with a dead person who really existed.
So . . . considering that PK events happen around these things, its a tool for designing and creating desireable realities.
The question is how to make a safe engine when so many people have burned theirselves with discovering fire.
It's a nice thought dcr, but i don't think there will ever be a safe engine as long as there is ego involved. I have seen ego rip through the ether of all reason and manifest beings of the worst kind.
A very good friend of mine once went to see a medium, and asked if i would go with him as he was a little sceptical and perhaps he wanted someone to hold his hand. The lady told him that he had a guide who was pure evil and ego and that he should not associate himself with such. As you can imagine i was disgusted that someone should say such a thing, and my friend was horrified beyond belief. I've known this friend for many years and there was absolutely no evidence of such a guide spirit in all the time i had known him, he is in fact a very powerful healer.
I went over the next day to see my friend, and as he walked into the kitchen there was a ten feet tall beast behind him, it looked vampyric and had very diss-jointed arms, it was leaning over him and scowling at me. I thought, 'hello, where have you come from then?' and i knew that the power of suggestion and my friends own power of manifestation had bought this thing into our dimension. And as it was only a thought form it wasn't too difficult to remove....
But it does go to show that these people can manifest things into the here and now without these things having existed, just as you say dcr in your post.
And while there is the ego (and many mediums etc work with pure ego) involved there is always the chance that that fire can be tindered from naught and that safe engine only works when the persons working with it have a stance of compassion and love.
respect
lostinstrangeworld
15-04-2009, 03:04 AM
Research has shown that a group of mediums / channelers etc. can invent a non existant dead person, and get the same kind of results doing seance things with them as they would with a dead person who really existed.
Interesting.
Why do people want to do ouja boards and tarot and such things? What is it people want to know so badly?
I'm genuinely interested... i used to have readings done etc (years and years ago) but tbh i dont really know why...or what for? What use does knowing a few bits of vague and random information do?
With the Ouija...i think you're best staying well away... spirits are in another world /the other side for a reason, they arn't meant to communicate with us for a reason... leave them there until such a time when you're enlightened as to why!
I messed with them as a teen and thank god nothing serious happened but ive heard of many things that have to others... read up and do your research on such things before you do anything...ask yourself if you really want to be meddling with things you dont understand properly and is what you hope to gain from it worth it if it all goes wrong?
Hey, good point Lotts.
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 03:04 AM
Ego's a tricky one.
Let one kind of ego turn malignant and it pollutes the astral and the meme pool,
squash another kind of ego, and people get sick with testosterone defficiency and depressed and scared of everything.
I think that thousands of years of organised religion has left Westerners in a state where we don't even have a language that tells us good ego from bad.
i was drinking with my friends one who are witches, and one of them said lets play ouiji board. well thats the last thing i remember that night. totally blacked out and got possesed by demons. booze + ouiji board = bad.
I never really used one since. but i do automatic writing sometimes.
i do pages and pages and pages after pages of crazy writing , that i cant explain. when im around diferent people, different automatic writing styles come up, so maybe im using their energy for the automatic writing?
also, something better then ouija for asking the universe questions is this.
write on a page your question. you might want to change letters to numbers and mispell things, just let it go natural. keep writing on the page untill its full. then you can ask questions to the universe and they will be answered on the page like a cross word. there is no rules and it WORKS !
metacomet
15-04-2009, 04:23 AM
i was drinking with my friends one who are witches, and one of them said lets play ouiji board. well thats the last thing i remember that night. totally blacked out and got possesed by demons. booze + ouiji board = bad.
Hm.
When people are wasted enough you'd be channeling a well known entity.
The spirit of alcohol inhabits millions of people on this planet at every instant. It's quite an enormous entity. And yes, legions of demons are waiting to dive into people who black out drunk. Too bad we can't see this with our eyes... people might understand it in a different way from simply being drunk.
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 09:59 AM
I never really used one since. but i do automatic writing sometimes.
i do pages and pages and pages after pages of crazy writing , that i cant explain. when im around diferent people, different automatic writing styles come up, so maybe im using their energy for the automatic writing?
I've noticed that as well.
I don't think it's to do with using other people's energy, it's more to do with tuning into their information field and attitude.
At one point Boudicca told me to stop the ritual and carry on without someone. Quite understandably. She was IOT and former Catholic, and her misplaced loyalties were making her support a paedophile priest who'd moved on from Catholicism to subliminaly promote child abuse within chaos magic.
Boudicca wanted me to join the dots and get that silly duped woman out of the temple before it came to handbags at dawn.
I know that Boudicca's not corporeal these days, but my money would still have been on her.
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 10:22 AM
Hm.
When people are wasted enough you'd be channeling a well known entity.
The spirit of alcohol inhabits millions of people on this planet at every instant. It's quite an enormous entity. And yes, legions of demons are waiting to dive into people who black out drunk. Too bad we can't see this with our eyes... people might understand it in a different way from simply being drunk.
Alcohol's 'good' for Outer Gods possessions if you mix it with something dissosciative like weed, broomflower and salvia combined.
Don't try this, it's extremely dangerous.
lostwonderer
15-04-2009, 12:46 PM
I've tried it a few times before but nothing has occurred ... am I doing something wrong, or do things not always happen ?
It takes quite a while before you actually see any movement. Then again it may just have been someone moving it around on purpose, but i highly doubt it. How did you begin with the use of it?
merlincove
15-04-2009, 02:03 PM
Hm.
When people are wasted enough you'd be channeling a well known entity.
The spirit of alcohol inhabits millions of people on this planet at every instant. It's quite an enormous entity. And yes, legions of demons are waiting to dive into people who black out drunk. Too bad we can't see this with our eyes... people might understand it in a different way from simply being drunk.
Briliant words the metacomet, they resonate so perfectly. It is funny isn't it how you understand something, and then someone puts words to that understanding which make it more palatable? Thankyou for such a concise description :D
banjoreality
15-04-2009, 02:04 PM
anyone ever been to this site?.... www.evpreversespeaking.com
her name is Peggy Smith, she's into reversing ....check out her David Icke section.... she reversed him talking about Ayawhatsa (or whatever it's called) .... very interesting. you can also check out Beck subliminal on you tube, great song (backwards).
merlincove
15-04-2009, 02:05 PM
I've noticed that as well.
I don't think it's to do with using other people's energy, it's more to do with tuning into their information field and attitude.
At one point Boudicca told me to stop the ritual and carry on without someone. Quite understandably. She was IOT and former Catholic, and her misplaced loyalties were making her support a paedophile priest who'd moved on from Catholicism to subliminaly promote child abuse within chaos magic.
Boudicca wanted me to join the dots and get that silly duped woman out of the temple before it came to handbags at dawn.
I know that Boudicca's not corporeal these days, but my money would still have been on her.
Are we talking Boudicca here, Celtic Queen / Goddess?
It is intresting that we work with such powers.
Thor once turned up at our shop and told me something, in dream scape. I had never before seen him or worked with him in any way (apart from 'neddling' with runes as a teen) and haven't sinse.
Boudicca sounds like a great ally if you are in that vibration :D
eternal_spirit
15-04-2009, 02:14 PM
It takes quite a while before you actually see any movement. Then again it may just have been someone moving it around on purpose, but i highly doubt it. How did you begin with the use of it?
If it's a group effort say 3 people with fingers on a glass. Best way is to do a test by asking a question not out loud by speaking (but mentally/telepathically in your own mind so you're the only person who knows the question you ask the spirit) If the glass moves and spells out a relevant/correct answer to your question, then you'll know no one is pushing the glass around. You can re do this test.
It's also a good way at other times for someone to have proof that others aren't pushing the glass. You can take turns asking questions that the others can't hear
thenymph
15-04-2009, 02:26 PM
It takes quite a while before you actually see any movement. Then again it may just have been someone moving it around on purpose, but i highly doubt it. How did you begin with the use of it?
I was not being entirely correct in saying nothing has ever happened for me, sorry - in the beginning it did.
I first participated and witnessed it with "family-in-law", having previously heard about it from my parents, especially my down-to-earth Dad. Then, a few years later, when I did do it with my parents, it worked again, with me participating. We contacted a family member from the other side who gave us relevant information about his "accidental" death which turned out not to be an accident.
I tried it with my partner, just the two of us, and nothing happened. I was very emotionally disturbed at the time, and wonder if that was some kind of "block".
My partner has told me that he has done it alone, and it has worked. He has also done it with groups and seen the glass fly around the board.
What I meant was, it won't work for me now and I just wonder why.
loner
15-04-2009, 02:37 PM
If it's a group effort say 3 people with fingers on a glass. Best way is to do a test by asking a question not out loud by speaking (but mentally/telepathically in your own mind so you're the only person who knows the question you ask the spirit) If the glass moves and spells out a relevant/correct answer to your question, then you'll know no one is pushing the glass around. You can re do this test.
It's also a good way at other times for someone to have proof that others aren't pushing the glass. You can take turns asking questions that the others can't hear
A lot of people has said that you should use candles to light the room and read 'the lords prayer' backwards. Did you do this before you started the session?
lostwonderer
15-04-2009, 02:42 PM
If it's a group effort say 3 people with fingers on a glass. Best way is to do a test by asking a question not out loud by speaking (but mentally/telepathically in your own mind so you're the only person who knows the question you ask the spirit) If the glass moves and spells out a relevant/correct answer to your question, then you'll know no one is pushing the glass around. You can re do this test.
It's also a good way at other times for someone to have proof that others aren't pushing the glass. You can take turns asking questions that the others can't hear
I'll give it ago next time i try. Although we made sure that we put our fingers on very lightly, which is why i doubt anyone moved it.
lostwonderer
15-04-2009, 02:44 PM
A lot of people has said that you should use candles to light the room and read 'the lords prayer' backwards. Did you do this before you started the session?
Don't know about the prayer, but it is best to use candles.
eternal_spirit
15-04-2009, 02:48 PM
A lot of people has said that you should use candles to light the room and read 'the lords prayer' backwards. Did you do this before you started the session?
That sounds like an old wife's tale superstitious story of how to raise the devil. I think they missed out the bit about the candles being black and you face a mirror. :D
merlincove
15-04-2009, 02:49 PM
The lords prayer is actually a great affirmation to get rid of nasty stuff, and if you can say it in latin even better - it's a great energy shifter, when used correctly - it has kept me safe a time or two.
It is also a great thing to write down and post above a door to stop anything negative getting in :cool:
eternal_spirit
15-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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If it's a group effort say 3 people with fingers on a glass. Best way is to do a test by asking a question not out loud by speaking (but mentally/telepathically in your own mind so you're the only person who knows the question you ask the spirit) If the glass moves and spells out a relevant/correct answer to your question, then you'll know no one is pushing the glass around. You can re do this test.
It's also a good way at other times for someone to have proof that others aren't pushing the glass. You can take turns asking questions that the others can't hear
quote: lostwonder
I'll give it ago next time i try. Although we made sure that we put our fingers on very lightly, which is why i doubt anyone moved it.It can become amusing and confusing, if people are randomly asking telepathic questions and the others see the glass moving around spelling words and not knowing what the dialogue/topic is about.
Best to come to an agreement to state to the others when one want's to ask a telepathic question. (once you've developed trust between the group)
eternal_spirit
15-04-2009, 03:22 PM
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A lot of people has said that you should use candles to light the room and read 'the lords prayer' backwards. Did you do this before you started the session?
Seriously sounds like Satanism the backwards prayer.
The rest do if it makes you feel good, burn some incense, candles add a nice atmosphere. lay down a mirror facing up - and put the glass, numbers and letters on the mirror and do your readings.
eternal_spirit
15-04-2009, 03:31 PM
If you can get good results free flowing communication with the board it's a great tool exchange of information in plain English and direct that's it's plus. No symbols to confuse, or symbolic languages to be misinterpreted.
Other methods of divination will not yield the same results. But may serve their purpose for other avenues to some.
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Are we talking Boudicca here, Celtic Queen / Goddess?
It is intresting that we work with such powers.
Thor once turned up at our shop and told me something, in dream scape. I had never before seen him or worked with him in any way (apart from 'neddling' with runes as a teen) and haven't sinse.
Boudicca sounds like a great ally if you are in that vibration :D
Yes. I wrote an Enochian invocation to her and her armies.
It's good for channeling.
I'd quite like to go on a tour of sacred caves around the coast of Britain and invoke Boudicca & her armies to enchant for the public to know about trauma based mind control (and therefore put a stop to it)
Would anyone care to join me?
cafetimes1991
15-04-2009, 05:48 PM
http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF220-Passed_On.jpg
lostwonderer
15-04-2009, 06:08 PM
I was not being entirely correct in saying nothing has ever happened for me, sorry - in the beginning it did.
I first participated and witnessed it with "family-in-law", having previously heard about it from my parents, especially my down-to-earth Dad. Then, a few years later, when I did do it with my parents, it worked again, with me participating. We contacted a family member from the other side who gave us relevant information about his "accidental" death which turned out not to be an accident.
I tried it with my partner, just the two of us, and nothing happened. I was very emotionally disturbed at the time, and wonder if that was some kind of "block".
My partner has told me that he has done it alone, and it has worked. He has also done it with groups and seen the glass fly around the board.
What I meant was, it won't work for me now and I just wonder why.
Was it just that once? Or does it only seem to happen when you try with your OH?
merlincove
15-04-2009, 06:36 PM
Yes. I wrote an Enochian invocation to her and her armies.
It's good for channeling.
I'd quite like to go on a tour of sacred caves around the coast of Britain and invoke Boudicca & her armies to enchant for the public to know about trauma based mind control (and therefore put a stop to it)
Would anyone care to join me?
sounds cool my friend, just caves or circles too?
didn't you say you might miss out on the avebury thing in another thread? Would've been nice to share a beer maybe.
We're going to stonehenge in Nov, to walk amongst the stones, don't think they'll let us do any invoking mind :rolleyes:
peace all
deathcultreject
15-04-2009, 07:24 PM
sounds cool my friend, just caves or circles too?
didn't you say you might miss out on the avebury thing in another thread? Would've been nice to share a beer maybe.
We're going to stonehenge in Nov, to walk amongst the stones, don't think they'll let us do any invoking mind :rolleyes:
peace all
Probably just caves.
I think something as abused as the stone circle phenomenon would run the risk of overloading it with a cross fire, and caves are more down to earth and healing than circles.
It would be nice to meet up for a beer, but you wouldn't want my stalkers to turn up as well, and that's likely if I advertise my movements on the internet.
supertzar
16-04-2009, 01:35 AM
I knew some girls who used a ouija board in their high school days. They communicated with an entity called Zoso. After that, the house was haunted. They felt they were always being watched and heard unexplained noises. One of them felt something like a hand running down their back.
rydeon
16-04-2009, 02:29 PM
Yeah I did the ouija at school many years ago.
This was a Catholic school and once was a nunnery.
It worked and the home economics class we did it in had a really bad/scary vibe to it. I had to go up into the class alone during lunch time and that was pretty intense.
I won't do one again, I think it gave me nearly ten years of poor luck. Lingering bad and negative people soon appeared and took root heavily for the first six years or so. Less so afterwards.
Not a happy time all in all. The effects faded out in time thankfully.
I've lived in Asia and the ouija board is well known there as well. They usually never, ever do one indoors, always in an open place or the wilderness. The reasoning is that either the forces/spirits disperce in the open soon after or there are no people around afterwards for anything bad to 'latch' onto.
Still wouldn't like to do one even in on open ground.
The lords prayer backwards is a tool for you to see whether you are still controlled by the Christian religion.
If you think that it's "blasphemy", you're still controlled. That is the prayers purpose.
It's usage as "protection" before using a quija board is completely new for me and I doubt that it works.
thenymph
16-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Was it just that once? Or does it only seem to happen when you try with your OH?
Have only really tried it with my partner once or twice, and that was a few years ago. And he's really open-minded and receptive about these matters ! That's why I considered that my bad emotional state was causing a block, if that is possible.
stevil
16-04-2009, 06:21 PM
I used to use every night in old London house. Great results and was even given help writing songs which were later published! Listen to Morrissey's song!
sloughi
17-04-2009, 12:16 AM
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?act=idx
Don't be chicken. If you want questions go over there and ask thoem for advice or if demons are real.
metacomet
17-04-2009, 04:02 AM
The lords prayer backwards is a tool for you to see whether you are still controlled by the Christian religion.
If you think that it's "blasphemy", you're still controlled. That is the prayers purpose.
Inverting symbols to seek a lower dimensional curve-ball is 'blasphemy' in my opinion and I don't go to church...
I think, if you need to 'test' yourself against religion, than you are certainly controlled by it. You seek to erase conditioning by performing rituals meant to empower the other side of the coin.
mariag
17-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Personaly I would not use the ouija board for a couple of reasons.
1: I have done it before
2: You dont know what sort of spirit will answer your questions
and
3: I donīt need a board to be connected to the spiritual world .
I do not claim it to be wrong to use , just that we do not know who takes over when using it and it might just be dangerous to do so if you are not aware of the risk you take when you contact the other realms.
raquel
03-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Hello All.
Let me share a strange story. When I was 15 or 14 me and my best friend were playing around with out own homemade talking board we simply made out of paper scraps on top of a firm board, we used a small clear glass. We were asking the typical questions you would expect from teen girls , like does so and so like me. But then I had to get a cheap thrills by asking it silly questions about the devil and stuff. Anyways it kept repeating some initials of the person / spirit we were speaking with. OK but here comes the really freaky part. My friend Monica who is Apache and German and I'm also Cherokee and Scott Irish, well anyhow Monica asked politely for the little pointer glass to start dancing for us. OK the little glass started to move in circles and we were not touching it but with out two finger tips. we were not at all making it move. then we decided to let our fingers let g of the glass and it was still moving in circles!!! It really did do a little dance for us. I wonder if something like this has ever happened to others?
Also we decided to halt playing after the glass moving on its own, kinds freaked us out and we were also getting addicted very quick to the game -we simply had to stop we knew it wasn't no good....
But I have asked the board about 4 years back some questions. I totally forgot about them and they came true.
I really think it depends on the kinds person you are? I don't think its so bad to play like once a year but I don't do it anymore I outgrew it :):p
duffman
03-05-2009, 03:24 PM
i think the ouija board ,tarot card,mediums etc have got a lot of bad press from religious institutions claiming its all devils work and thus evil;) if bad things happen after using a ouija board thats what people will blame it on due to societys implanted beliefs if these practices actually do work(not sure watch too much Derren Brown) then i think its essential everyone tries them to get a better understanding of the reality they are living in
eternal_spirit
03-05-2009, 03:42 PM
i think the ouija board ,tarot card,mediums etc have got a lot of bad press from religious institutions claiming its all devils work and thus evil;) if bad things happen after using a ouija board thats what people will blame it on due to societys implanted beliefs if these practices actually do work(not sure watch too much Derren Brown) then i think its essential everyone tries them to get a better understanding of the reality they are living in
Some people will phoo phoo ouija yet claim their system of divination/communication is superior. The best tool for the job (which ever methods work or don't work for you is the sensible thing to use/do)
For direct communication in plain English ouija is best. Then all you have to decipher is who/what you're communicating with whether or not you're being told the truth or being spun a yarn.
eternal_spirit
03-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Personaly I would not use the ouija board for a couple of reasons.
1: I have done it before
2: You dont know what sort of spirit will answer your questions
and
3: I donīt need a board to be connected to the spiritual world .
I do not claim it to be wrong to use , just that we do not know who takes over when using it and it might just be dangerous to do so if you are not aware of the risk you take when you contact the other realms.
Point 2 is the problem (something acting as good may not be) Same can be said for other methods/systems of invocations/summonings/communication/divination etc.
(Misreading symbolic interpretations, tarot for example)
Point 3 How so? Clauradiance? Do you hear voices?
deathcultreject
08-06-2009, 08:38 PM
i was drinking with my friends one who are witches, and one of them said lets play ouiji board. well thats the last thing i remember that night. totally blacked out and got possesed by demons. booze + ouiji board = bad.
I never really used one since. but i do automatic writing sometimes.
i do pages and pages and pages after pages of crazy writing , that i cant explain. when im around diferent people, different automatic writing styles come up, so maybe im using their energy for the automatic writing?
also, something better then ouija for asking the universe questions is this.
write on a page your question. you might want to change letters to numbers and mispell things, just let it go natural. keep writing on the page untill its full. then you can ask questions to the universe and they will be answered on the page like a cross word. there is no rules and it WORKS !
Thank you very much for this idea.
Next time I'm sitting down to a divination session to see if I should some new methods to my magical kitbag, I shall give this one a long and fair hearing :)
deathcultreject
08-06-2009, 08:47 PM
i think the ouija board ,tarot card,mediums etc have got a lot of bad press from religious institutions claiming its all devils work and thus evil;) if bad things happen after using a ouija board thats what people will blame it on due to societys implanted beliefs if these practices actually do work(not sure watch too much Derren Brown) then i think its essential everyone tries them to get a better understanding of the reality they are living in
You can't force people to do a ouija board. That's sick.
I'm not even going to say that I've got more respect for people who're open minded about it, because that might make insecure people try it out just to validate theirselves.
deathcultreject
08-06-2009, 08:53 PM
Hello All.
Let me share a strange story. When I was 15 or 14 me and my best friend were playing around with out own homemade talking board we simply made out of paper scraps on top of a firm board, we used a small clear glass. We were asking the typical questions you would expect from teen girls , like does so and so like me. But then I had to get a cheap thrills by asking it silly questions about the devil and stuff. Anyways it kept repeating some initials of the person / spirit we were speaking with. OK but here comes the really freaky part. My friend Monica who is Apache and German and I'm also Cherokee and Scott Irish, well anyhow Monica asked politely for the little pointer glass to start dancing for us. OK the little glass started to move in circles and we were not touching it but with out two finger tips. we were not at all making it move. then we decided to let our fingers let g of the glass and it was still moving in circles!!! It really did do a little dance for us. I wonder if something like this has ever happened to others?
Also we decided to halt playing after the glass moving on its own, kinds freaked us out and we were also getting addicted very quick to the game -we simply had to stop we knew it wasn't no good....
But I have asked the board about 4 years back some questions. I totally forgot about them and they came true.
I really think it depends on the kinds person you are? I don't think its so bad to play like once a year but I don't do it anymore I outgrew it :):p
That's a lovely story raquel. I remember getting freaked out so much I had to stop, it was about 15 years ago when a spirit kept telling me whether a coin had landed heads or tails before I looked to see.
I wish that more people who've had positive experiences with this kind of thing could just stand up and say so.
eternal_spirit
08-06-2009, 10:22 PM
They told some amazing stories and the conversation flowed, had them composing lyrics for songs and poetry, even drawing pictures used a wooden egg cup which had a hole through it, place pencil in there and had a piece of paper underneath that (it told me to get paper and pencil) drew the space shuttle around the time it crashed! I think it had been on the news.
Asked it to draw what I'd had for dinner sure enough it drew egg peas and chips lol.
Originally Posted by 1337 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=930135#post930135)
i was drinking with my friends one who are witches, and one of them said lets play ouiji board. well thats the last thing i remember that night. totally blacked out and got possesed by demons. booze + ouiji board = bad.
It's possible/ although may have been the spirits you drank.