Is Oneness A Masonic Idea?

[december]

Membership and religion

Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one. "There is no separate Masonic God", nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.

Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Deism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism can and have become Masons.

Since the early 19th Century, in the irregular Continental European tradition (meaning irregular to those Grand Lodges in amity with the United Grand Lodge of England), a very broad interpretation has been given to a (non-dogmatic) Supreme Being; in the tradition of Baruch Spinoza and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe — or views of The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness — along with Western atheistic idealism and agnosticism.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBQ78EVOHL9REEENV/p2

[john white]

john white, if you are SO knowledgeable then just ANSWER THE QUESTION, and don't lecture others while pretending to be an academic. OK?

But if you like to play that game then I can tell you this - 'if you did a tiny bit of research you would find that" "the Oneness of all Religions" is PURE Freemasonic idea.


December, you are petrified of expressing what your own beliefs are: when you get past that inner block, then we can have a conversation. The problem is that at the moment, you WANT their to be evil in the world, you WANT their to be darkness, becuase your ego self is defined by you manufacturing the personal illusion that anything like you is good and anything unlike you is evil: and it is this essential mis-trusting that makes you both so locked down and so prosyltising

However, I will present a conversation I had with titurel yesterday, that should give you pause for thought accepting something you saw on a website just becuase it suited you to

You're pedling the old new Age nonsense about ONENESS again without recognising that dogma is part of the NWO agenda. The Prophets were instructed what to write, they didn't "translate God". You're ideas are pure waffle, IMO.
Here's a thought for you titurel:

I'm sure you have satisfied yourself that Oneness is a part of the New World Order Agenda (substitute your own "pure masonic idea" December: same thing): though how deep a process you went through to make that conclusion is another question...

But you see, you show the limit of your ability to comprehend... of course Oneness appears to be a part of the NWO agenda...but in fact, the NWO agenda is just a part of Oneness

How could it be otherwise?

The Oneness of Consciousness is the totality of everything: there is no false division: there is no duality of manipulation: there is no forced rejection preventing harmony

Another thought for you:

Adam and Eve, Garden of Eden

Eve munches the apple, gains (well, if you can call it gains) the knowledge of Good AND Evil

What consciouness did she have before hand, where she saw no duality?

Therefore:

What consciousness did man have BEFORE the fall?

Threeness? Do you think?

Or was it... Oneness

The grace of the lost paradise

My eternity is My creation, I have created it for thee. Make it the garment of thy temple. My Unity is My handiwork; I have wrought it for thee; clothe thyself therewith, that thou mayest be to all eternity the revelation of My everlasting being

There was ONENESS in Eden, but that was before the Fall. I've nothing against ONENESS and returning to a state of innocence, but in our world of subsequent polarity, I choose not to be part of the negative polarity... I choose not to be part of the Reptilian's NWO agenda!

(This post is re-produced here becuase December couldnt contain himself and rushed off to make a thread within seconds of posting his Q)

[them]

This man http://www.thegoldenthread.com/images/knight.gif Christopher Knight (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guests/860.html) is a freemason & he gives an interesting lecture on the History of Freeemasonry available for download here;

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/index.html?sort=12&search=christopher+knight&top_submit_search_button=Search

or here

http://www.mininova.org/tor/602765

[december]

December, you are petrified of expressing what your own beliefs are:

This post is re-produced here becuase December couldnt contain himself...

john white, I noticed that you like to attack people personally. I can give you MANY examples to prove it...
So, I wonder - are you, john white, getting paid to switch the subject, so people begin to discuss a person instead of the topic?

[john white]

john white, I noticed that you like to attack people personally. I can give you MANY examples to prove it...
So, I wonder - are you, john white, getting paid to switch the subject, so people begin to discuss a person instead of the topic?

Theres no attack in a statement of truth December, unless truth is an enemy to you

And you can be as paranoid suspicious and terrified about me as you care to be, it makes no difference

When you are ready to discuss your own beliefs, then I will be ready to have a conversation with you

[bigus_dickus]

lets look at the synonymous words and decide

communion
1382, from O.Fr. communion, from L. communionem (nom. communio) "a sharing," used in L.L. ecclesiastical language for "participation in the sacrament," from communis (see common). Used by Augustine, in belief that the word was derived from com- + unus "oneness, union."

unity
c.1300, from Anglo-Fr. unite, O.Fr. unite (c.1200), from L. unitatem (nom. unitas) "oneness, sameness, agreement," from unus "one" (see one).

union
1410, "action of joining one thing to another," from O.Fr. union (12c.), from L.L. unionem (nom. unio) "oneness, unity, a uniting," also in L. meaning "a single pearl or onion," from unus "one," from PIE *oinos (see one). Sense of "action of uniting into one political body" is attested from 1547. Meaning "group of people or states" is from 1660. Short for trade union, it is recorded from 1833. U.S. political sense is attested from 1775; used especially during the Civil War, in ref. to the remainder of the United States after the Southern secession. Unionize "make into a union" is attested from 1841.

[rossus]

the "NWO" don't promote oneness, they promote duality.
the way they make people in a society think is the following:
you are either a winner or a loser.
you're beautiful or ugly.
you are with us or against us.
you are worth my love or you aren't.

they do not secretly push unconditional love through their agenda ;)
jesus taught unconditional love.
he told us to love our enemy.

the church did nothing but kill.
just like the leaders of today still do nothing but kill.





i think that perhaps for some people the best solution is to put them to death,
because they are too far gone and are too much of a threat to society.
like childrapists for example.

but, this does not mean that i don't love that person.
it's just the only way to save other people from the misery he would inflict on them. and the other positive thing is: he is saved from himself also.

i understand that under certain circumstances people can get really fucked up.
like a dog when you hit him all the time with a baseballbat during his young life, he will forever bite other people.

with humans, it's a bit the same.
i think that theres many different factors that can push someone towards abusing himself and abusing other people.
childhood, but also DNA and memories and experiences stores stored from grandparents etc.

when someone abuses himself and abuses other people, this does not mean he is evil.
he is making other victims but he is also the victim of himself.
when i would have had the same childhood as him, or the same DNA passed on as he got it from his parents...
this means the same chemical configuration in the brain...
then the chance is big that i would have become the same evil person as him.

i think that people who are "evil" are out of control.
they are on automatic.
it's the animal in them that reacts from impulse to impulse, and is unable to feel love.
the animal is only interested in it's own survival and it's own pleasure.
just like a computer cannot feel love, the mind can not feel love either.
people who are "evil" suffer from a serious disease and are sometimes better of to be put to death.



do i believe that "I am one" with mass murderers, child rapists and others sorts of "scum".
well, not really. i think it doesn't work like that.

one should not run around thinking "everything is one, life is great, blabla".
i do think it's best that you try to love everyone and everything as they are, unconditionally.
this means that in your heart, you don't reject them & see them as something that is evil and deserve your hate or whatever.

then you commit the same mistake as they do... : not loving.
lao tzu said a nice thing about duality:
"when the whole world recognizes good as good, and evil as evil... that in itself is evilness"

[bigus_dickus]

Plotinus (204-270 C.E.) (http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm)

Plotinus is considered to be the founder of Neoplatonism. Taking his lead from his reading of Plato, Plotinus developed a complex spiritual cosmology involving three hypostases: the One, the Intelligence, and the Soul. It is from the productive unity of these three Beings that all existence emanates. The principal of emanation is not simply causal, but also contemplative. In his system, Plotinus raises intellectual contemplation to the status of a productive principle; and it is by virtue of contemplation that all existents are said to be united as a single, all-pervasive reality. In this sense, Plotinus is not a strict pantheist, yet his system does not permit the notion of creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothingness). In addition to his cosmology, Plotinus also developed a unique theory of sense-perception and knowledge, based on the idea that the mind plays an active role in shaping or ordering the objects of its perception, rather than passively receiving the data of sense experience (in this sense, Plotinus may be said to have anticipated the phenomenological theories of Husserl). Plotinus' doctrine that the soul is composed of a higher and a lower part -- the higher part being unchangeable and divine (and aloof from the lower part, yet providing the lower part with life), while the lower part is the seat of the personality (and hence the passions and vices) -- led him to neglect an ethics of the individual human being in favor of a mystical or soteric doctrine of the soul's ascent to union with its higher part. The philosophy of Plotinus is represented in the complete collection of his treatises, collected and edited by his student Porphyry into six books of nine treatises each. For this reason they have come down to us under the title of the Enneads.

[bigus_dickus]

Plotinus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The One

Plotinus taught that there is a supreme, totally transcendent "One", containing no division, multiplicity or distinction; likewise it is beyond all categories of being and non-being. The concept of "being" is derived by us from the objects of human experience, and is an attribute of such objects, but the infinite, transcendent One is beyond all such objects, and therefore is beyond the concepts that we derive from them. The One "cannot be any existing thing", and cannot be merely the sum of all such things (compare the Stoic doctrine of disbelief in non-material existence), but "is prior to all existents". Thus, no attributes can be assigned to the One. We can only identify it with the Good and the principle of Beauty. [I.6.9]

For example, thought cannot be attributed to the One because thought implies distinction between a thinker and an object of thought. Even the self-contemplating intelligence must contain duality. "Once you have uttered 'The Good,' add no further thought: by any addition, and in proportion to that addition, you introduce a deficiency." [III.8.10] Plotinus denies sentience, self-awareness or any other action to the One [V.6.6], rather if we insist on describing it further we must call the One a sheer Dynamis or potentiality without which nothing could exist. [III.8.10] As Plotinus explains in both places and elsewhere [e.g. V.6.3], it is impossible for the One to be Being or a self-aware Creator God. At [V.6.4], Plotinus compared the One to "light", the Divine Nous (first will towards Good) to the "Sun", and lastly the Soul to the "Moon" whose light is merely a "derivative conglomeration of light from the 'Sun'". The first light could exist without any celestial body.

The One, being beyond all attributes including being and non-being, is the source of the world -- but not through any act of creation, willful or otherwise, since activity cannot be ascribed to the unchangeable, immutable One. Plotinus argues instead that the multiple cannot exist without the simple. The "less perfect" must, of necessity, "emanate", or issue forth, from the "perfect" or "more perfect". Thus, all of "creation" emanates from the One in succeeding stages of lesser and lesser perfection. These stages are not temporally isolated, but occur throughout time as a constant process. Later Neoplatonic philosophers, especially Iamblichus, added hundreds of intermediate beings as emanations between the One and humanity; but Plotinus' system was much simpler in comparison.

Emanation by the One

Plotinus offers an alternative to the orthodox Christian notion of creation ex nihilo (out of nothing), which attributes to God the deliberation of mind and action of a will, although Plotinus never mentions Christianity in any of his works. Emanation ex deo (out of God), confirms the absolute transcendence of the One, making the unfolding of the cosmos purely a consequence of its existence; the One is in no way affected or diminished by these emanations. Though the emanations are, since as they become farther away from the source they became diminished. Plotinus uses the analogy of the Sun which emanates light indiscriminately without thereby diminishing itself, or reflection in a mirror which in no way diminishes or otherwise alters the object being reflected.

The first emanation is nous (thought), identified metaphorically with the demiurge in Plato's Timaeus. It is the first will towards Good. From nous proceeds the world soul, which Plotinus subdivides into upper and lower, identifying the lower aspect of Soul with nature. From the world soul proceeds individual human souls, and finally, matter, at the lowest level of being and thus the least perfected level of the cosmos. Despite this relatively pedestrian assessment of the material world, Plotinus asserted the ultimately divine nature of material creation since it ultimately derives from the One, through the mediums of nous and the world soul. It is by the Good or through beauty that we recognize the One, in material things and then in the Forms.[3]

The essentially devotional nature of Plotinus' philosophy may be further illustrated by his concept of attaining ecstatic union with the One (henosis see Iamblichus). Porphyry relates that Plotinus attained such a union four times during the years he knew him. This may be related to enlightenment, liberation, and other concepts of mystical union common to many Eastern and Western traditions. Some have compared Plotinus' teachings to the Hindu school of Advaita Vedanta (advaita "not two", or "non-dual"),[4].

True Human and Happiness

Authentic human happiness for Plotinus consists of the true human identifying with that which is the best in the universe. Because happiness is beyond anything physical, Plotinus stresses the point that worldly fortune does not control true human happiness, and thus “… there exists no single human being that does not either potentially or effectively possess this thing we hold to constitute happiness.” (Enneads I.4.4) The issue of happiness is one of Plotinus’ greatest imprints on Western thought, as he is one of the first to introduce the idea that eudaimonia is attainable only within consciousness.

The true human is an incorporeal contemplative capacity of the soul, and superior to all things corporeal. It then follows that real human happiness is independent of the physical world. Real happiness is, instead, dependent on the metaphysical and authentic human being found in this highest capacity of Reason. “For man, and especially the Proficient, is not the Couplement of Soul and body: the proof is that man can be disengaged from the body and disdain its nominal goods.” (Enneads I.4.14) The human who has achieved happiness will not be bothered by sickness, discomfort, etc., as his focus is on the greatest things. Authentic human happiness is the utilization of the most authentically human capacity of contemplation. Even in daily, physical action, the flourishing human’s “…Act is determined by the higher phase of the Soul.” (Enneads III.4.6) Even in the most dramatic arguments Plotinus considers (if the Proficient is subject to extreme physical torture, for example), he concludes this only strengthens his claim of true happiness being metaphysical, as the truly happy human being would understand that that which is being tortured is merely a body, not the conscious self, and happiness could persist.

Plotinus offers a comprehensive description of his conception of a person who has achieved eudaimonia. “The perfect life” involves a man who commands reason and contemplation.(Enneads I.4.4) A happy person will not sway between happy and sad, as many of Plotinus’ contemporaries believed. Stoics, for example, question the ability of someone to be happy (presupposing happiness is contemplation) if they are mentally incapacitated or even asleep- Plotinus disregards this claim, as the soul and true human do not sleep or even exist in time, nor will a living human whom has achieved eudaimonia suddenly stop using its greatest, most authentic capacity just because of the body’s discomfort in the physical realm. “…The Proficient’s will is set always and only inward.” (Enneads I.4.11)

Overall, happiness for Plotinus is "...a flight from this world's ways and things." (Theat 176AB) and a focus on the highest, i.e. Forms and The One.

Against causal astrology

Plotinus seems to be one of the first to argue against the still popular notion of causal Astrology. In the late tractate 2.3, "Are the stars causes?", Plotinus makes the argument that specific stars influencing one's fortune (a common hellenistic theme) attributes irrationality to a perfect universe, and eliminates moral turpitude. He does, however, claim the stars and planets are ensouled, as witnessed by their movement.

Plotinus and the Gnostics

Main article: First International Conference on Neoplatonism and Gnosticism
See also: Neoplatonism and Gnosticism

Conferences within the Hellenic philosophy field have been held in order to address what Plotinus stated and who he was addressing it to and to separate and clarify the events and persons involved in the origin of the term "Gnostic". From the dialogue, it appears that the word had an origin in the Platonic and Hellenistic tradition long before the group calling themselves "Gnostics" -- or the group covered under the modern term "Gnosticism" -- ever appeared. It would seem that this shift from Platonic to Gnostic usage has led many people to confusion. The strategy of sectarians taking Greek terms from philosophical contexts and re-applying them to religious contexts was popular in Christianity, Mithraism, the Cult of Isis and other ancient religious contexts including Hermetic ones (see Alexander of Abonutichus for an example).

In the case of gnosticism it is important to understand that Plotinus and the Neoplatonists viewed it as a form of heresy or sectarianism to the Pythagorean and Platonic philosophy of the Mediterranean and Middle East.[5] He accused them of using senseless jargon and being overly dramatic and insolent in their distortion of Plato's Ontology.[6] Plotinus attackes his opponents as untraditional, irrational and immoral[7][8] and arrogant[9]. He also attacks them as elitist and blasphemous to Plato for the gnostics despising the material world and it's maker.[10]

Plotinus, for example, attacked the Gnostics he was familiar with for vilifying Plato's ontology of the universe contained in Timaeus, and the universes' creation by the demiurge.[11] In this view the Demiurge is an artist or craftsman, in that he creates through mixing or amalgamating what already is. Plotinus accused Gnosticism of vilifing the Demiurge or craftsman that crafted the material world, even thinking of the material world as evil or a prison.

The Neoplatonic movement (though Plotinus would have simply referred to himself as a philosopher of Plato) seems to be motivated by the desire of Plotinus to revive the pagan philosophical tradition. Plotinus was not claiming to innovate with the Enneads, but to clarify aspects of the works of Plato that he considered misrepresented or misunderstood. Plotinus referred to tradition as a way to interpret Plato's intentions. Because the teachings of Plato were for members of the academy rather than the general public, it was easy for outsiders to misunderstand Plato's meaning. However, Plotinus attempted to clarify how the philosophers of the academy had not arrived at the same conclusions (such as misotheism or Dystheism of the creator God as an answer to the problem of evil) as the targets of his criticism.

[phoebe]

No.
Non-dualistic teachings go waaaaaaaaaaay back.
Just because subsequent schools of thought like to corrupt truth
Doesn't mean it isn't true.

[fccool]

Oneness is never a dangerous idea. To say that idea is dangerous is to say that guns kill people. It's only partly true. No idea in itself is dangerous. Idea could be expressed in two sentences on a peice of paper. The moment that the idea becomes powerfull is when we embrace it and act upon that idea. But human individuality does not rule out the misinterpretation of the idea, so it is not the idea to blame here.

For example... if somebody would be going around saying " I have an idea that would solve starvation in this world. We must kill 80% of population". I would obviously disagree. It might be a potentially harmful idea, but in itself the idea does no harm. It is when the idea is picked up by a believer and put into action... then it becomes a threat. I know we arrest people for threats and etc, but without action the threats are useless. But unfortunatly to restrain such action is fundomentally to restrain freedom. Therefore retaliation can only be as a response to action and not the idea, otherwise you get into the "preemptive war" mentality. The positive thing about the real of ideas is that these still exist in the real of reason and could be dealt with as such. When ideas convert into action it is hard to change anything at that point of time. This is why we fear ideas, because the actions based on interpretation of ideas are the final decision.

So to say that Christian religions killed millions of innocent people is a correct statement... but what ommited here is that so called "Christians" were killing believers who dared to read the Bible for themselves and interpret it the way they wanted. The inquisition was primarily to establish Rome as the sole interpreter of the scripture. If you kept agnostic and quiet you were not considered a threat. It is mostly millions of Christians who suffered the inquisition in Europe. Religious ideas could be used both to enslave and to free people. Otherwise communist controlled countries would rule from the pulpit. Instead they rulled from the scientific podiums. But the purpose of my reply is not to defend religion, but the realm of ideas in general. If we are to label an idea as dangerous or as a positive one... how would we trully find the truth? These interpretations are relative to background of the receptor of these ideas. Somebody might thing that bombing the Iran is dangerous, while others might think that Iran is dangerous and should be bombed.

In thinking about these I just realized that Internet forums exist in realms of ideas and would be a perfect illustration. If Iternet forums were all there is to reality (and for some people here it is :D), then what harm could you do if all you passing around is ideas? Just an example that ideas in themselves do no harm. The problem with the world is not all the bad stuff going on... it's misplaced love. We just love all the wrong things for some odd reason.

[fccool]

How did you come to this conclusion? By reading other people's work. Does'nt it make it a subjective reasoning? Which in fact makes you a subjective human being. Individuality is subjective, which is why there are billions of theories. There are as many theories as there are people. Although, as you correctly point out (or lightly tough on) objectivity is the only way to find real truth (or is it? As soon as you discover something it becomes a subject to your interpretation, so NOTHING is trully objective as long as it exists in your mind...), unfortunatly we are all subjective and you can never become objective... because in fact objectivity is a subjective construct :) . So in fact it traps you in this circular reasoning dellema. Am I to become objective? If objectivity is a subjective thought, does that make me subjective once again?

If you cease to exist you don't know what happens. You have no idea what you were before you came into this world, and you have no idea what you become after you go out. You have as you would call them "subjective speculations", but those are at best an educated guess. What we really can now for sure is that we know very little to nothing. What we do know though is that universe is not in chaos. It is very well organized. There are phisical "objective" laws that make sure that it stays that way. We are subject to those laws. You can't fly on your own and you can't live under water on your own. If you point a gun to your head and pull the trigger you become objectively :) dead in this world. You have no idea what happens next and that's what holding you back from doing that. We are all afraid of death because we don't know what happens next. So what is the purpose to our lives... it is what you make it to be. It is as simple as that. It's your choice. You can either use your life to accomplish something, or you can spend your life trying to figure out what it means and never really coming to a complete conclusion ... because it's impossible to use our sences to trully know objective truth. That's why 100% of people believe what they believe by faith. Whether you are a christian, muslim, agnostic, buddhist or spagetti monster follower. So my purpose in life as I see it is to find something that I enjoy and do it the best I can, while trying to be of help to others around me. You can find your own. We don't all have to have the same purpose.

[mahabaratara]

NO...

[december]

Oneness = Communism.

[bigus_dickus]

Oneness = Communism.

communion

[mahabaratara]

We are all connected to each other from the smallest of particles...This dosent mean Hive mentality just awareness...

[december]

communion

Right.

And it was tried in the Soviet Union already - where DIFFERENT nations were forced to forget their culture and turn into ONE new (Soviet) people.

The color of these people was red. The Rothschilds (RED SHIELD) liked that color....

http://davno.ru/img/posters/propaganda1/poster_01_01.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

We are all connected to each other from the smallest of particles...This dosent mean Hive mentality just awareness...

exactly, a communion is consisted of individuals communicating.

[bigus_dickus]

The color of these people was red. The Rothschilds (RED SHIELD) liked that color....[/b]

that's communism. uniform hive, otherwise not all people red.

[december]

You can read about Oneness in the Communist Manifesto:

10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto


Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

Free education for all children in public schools.
(The communist propaganda that is)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

http://www.biblestudysite.com/communist%20manifesto%20-%20cover%20picture.jpg

THE ONENESS OF SOVIET PEOPLE

http://davno.ru/img/posters/propaganda1/poster_01_01.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

You can read about Oneness in the Communist Manifesto:

of course i can read, i can read anything.

[mada88]

again with the masons lol.

[december]

Utopia

[ou-topos = not-place] Originally the name of Thomas More’s fictional island, the atheistic and communist republic described in his 1515 novel, Utopia. Ever since, the word has denoted any vision of an perfect society which plays the role of an ideal for a social movement advocating changes to existing social conditions. The connotation of Utopia, as in “Utopian socialism”, is that the ideal state of society represented has no real basis in actuality and may be an impossible and unattainable idealisation. The opposite of Utopia in this sense is a condition which already has a real, even if embryonic basis.

Among the Utopias that have been imagined through history are the following.

Plato’s Republic: an idealisation of slave society with a rigid class system.
Thomas More’s communistic Utopia.
Antonio Doni’s humanist I mondi (1552), Francesco Patrizi’s La città felice (1553), Tommaso Campanella’s La città del sole (1602) and Francis Bacon’s scientific New Atlantis (1627).
Samuel Gott’s Christian utopia in Novae Solymae libri sex (1648).
Gerrard Winstanley’s egalitarian Digger utopia in The Law of Freedom (1652), and James Harrington’s Common-Wealth of Oceana (1656) based on universal land-ownership.
Gabriel de Foigny’s libertarian Terre australe connue (1676) and François Fénelon’s Télémaque (1699) extolling the simple life. Louis-Sébastien Mercier’s L'An 2440 (1770) anticipated the French Revolution.
G.A. Ellis’ New Britain (1820) and Étienne Cabet’s Voyage en Icarie (1840) were concerned with social problems in the United States and William Morris’s News from Nowhere (1890), eliminated economics altogether.
Edward Bellamy’s Looking Backward, 2000-1887 (1888), while H.G. Wells’ Time Machine (1895) demonstrated the dangers of class society and A Modern Utopia (1905) the virtues of a socialism.
Utopias have also been implemented. Uptopian projects include:

Robert Owen’s New Harmony, founded in 1825 was a cooperative rather than communist society, sponsored the first kindergarten, the first trade school, the first free library, and the first community-supported public school in the US.
Between 1841 and 1859, about 28 colonies were established in the United States by followers of Francois Charles Fourier. The Icarians, followers of Étienne Cabet, established ill-fated communities in Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, and California.
In the 1890’s 500 Australian socialists led by William Lane created “New Australia” in the Paraguayan jungle based on socialist principles, and their descendants live in Paraguay to this day.

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/u/t.htm#utopia


Welcome to Soviet ONENESS...

http://www.axzoom.com/_info_r/_photo/22/01.jpg


It was tried in the Soviet Union already - where DIFFERENT nations were forced to forget their history and culture and turn into ONE Soviet "nation".

Thanks to the Rothschilds (RED SHIELD).... the color of that new nation happened to be red.

[december]

Are they going to try this idea on British people now?

http://afoludata.jrc.it/events/Kyoto_technical_workshop/logos/eu_logo_ctry_stars_grey.jpg

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/best-of-british2_small1.jpg

http://www.sijmen.nl/filo/philoimages/marx.jpg

Karl Marx's Tomb at Highgate Cemetery London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/05/10/highate_cemetery_feature.shtml

[december]

AFTER COMMUNISM – WHAT NEXT?


THE BAHÁ'Í FAITH

"The time has come when those who preach the dogmas of materialism, whether of the east or the west, whether of capitalism or socialism, must give account of the moral stewardship they have presumed to exercise..." (The Promise of World Peace, October 1985)

Since the above words were written, great changes have come about in various parts of the world, particularly in eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.



THE RETREAT OF COMMUNISM

Throughout eastern Europe, totalitarian communism has been in retreat. Large populations, which were raised in the expectation of social justice, did not find communism able to provide it. The reasons for this were many and complex, but must surely include the gradual corruption of the original goals of communism, which included the ultimate aim of world brotherhood, leading to the unity of the world's peoples.

Communism is in essence a political system, and rejects a spiritual basis for life. Lacking what has been called fear of God, and without a detailed set of everyday personal teachings, it does not provide for the day-to-day realities of human relationships. This deficiency allowed practices to creep into the system which are now generally viewed as corruption. Individual human rights have not always been respected; indeed, abuse of individuals has sometimes taken place on a huge scale. Communism, as a political system, is based on the exercise of power. However, power does not necessarily confer legitimacy and authority.

It is also true that communism has not always been ecologically aware; and, irrespective of ownership of the means of production, both communism and capitalism have exploited the most basic means of production - the earth. In some parts of eastern Europe, the resultant pollution was one of the major sources of dissatisfaction with the communist economic and value system.



IS CAPITALISM THE ANSWER?

Some observers, seeing the needs of eastern Europe and its rejection of centralised planning and political slavery, have hailed the overthrow of communism as the triumph of capitalism. But is this true? Is capitalism a satisfactory answer? Following "market forces" does not bring happiness and prosperity to everybody, as the rapid emergence of a poor underclass in some former communist countries shows. On a wider scale, capitalism ensures that those who control the sale of tea or cocoa live in comfort, but does it do the same for those who harvest these crops?. The Universal House of Justice, which is the elected world body of the Bahá'í community, wrote in 1985:

"All too many ..... callously abandon starving millions to the operations of a market system that all too clearly is aggravating the plight of the majority of mankind, while enabling small sections to live in a condition of affluence scarcely dreamed of by our forebears."

It seems extremely unlikely that the people in the former socialist countries who were shown daily in their news media the unemployment, homelessness and social inequalities of capitalist societies, will readily accept these as inevitable features of society. These will surely seem as unacceptable to people raised in socialist societies as the lack of free speech, lack of choice, and the pervasiveness of the secret police seemed to people raised in democratic countries.



WHAT ABOUT DEMOCRACY?
The word "democracy", like the word "socialism", means different things to different people and in different countries. In everyday usage, it is generally taken to mean that the people have a free choice of representatives or of rulers. In practice, thois choice is narrowed down to a choice between parties or between a few individuals only. In its original sense of government by the people it has largely been relegated to an ideal, and now usually relates to questions of government of the people.

Yet it should be possible, given the advances in communication, to combine the two, and develop a system of government in which the representatives are of the people and from the people, rather than imposed on the people. We should even be able to progress past the stage of having parties in competition with one another, with the divisiveness which this can cause. It is precisely this kind of change in world administration which Bahá'ís anticipate.



IS SOCIALISM FINISHED?
Socialism, as an ideal society arranged for the support of all of its members, can still exist as a goal. However, it is clear that a form of socialism must evolve which takes account of the human spirit and its longing for spiritual fulfilment, and it is in this context that socialists will find their theories echoed in the Bahá'í revelation.



DOES THE BAHÁ'Í FAITH HAVE THE ANSWER?
So could the Bahá'í Faith be the answer for those people who have been spiritually starved, but who were raised in an atmosphere of expectation that brotherhood, justice and oneness are attainable ideals, the basis of future society? Bahá'ís believe that spiritual values transcend theological rivalries. In eastern Europe, following the weakening of communist power, violent conflicts between different religions and denominations have broken out in several countries. It seems that the Bahá'í emphasis on the oneness of religion will have a deep and lasting appeal there. Bahá'ís believe that all the major religions derive their original inspiration from God, although their teachings may have become changed over time. They accept Bahá'u'lláh as the Promised One of all the religions, and believe that His Teachings are designed for this age.



WORLD SOCIETY
Another present source of conflict is nationalism. Many of the peoples formerly under communist rule are still struggling to be recognised as nations. At the same time, national membership of economic and political federations, for practical reasons as well as for human solidarity, is inreasing throughout the world. Rather than having certain powerful nations exerting pressure on others, true world order will come about only when there is a genuine world body, elected from among all the world's peoples, which will ensure the security and freedom of all nations. A universal Bill of Rights, to safeguard the freedom of individuals, will also be necessary. Within such a world society, all nations, races, tribes and peoples would become respected as part of one human family. Nationalism would then take second place to world citizenship. The division of people into different classes would become irrelevant.



BAHÁ'Í ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES
The elimination of extreme personal wealth and the elimination of poverty are major goals of Bahá'í society. Economic conditions obviously vary from place to place and from time to time, and therefore these goals dictate certain economic principles rather than a rigid system. For instance, workers are entitled to an annual share of the profits of any enterprise. Their share is a right, and not to be confused with the cosmetic arrangements found in both capitalist and communist countries. In addition, the abolition of industrial slavery is itself a stated Bahá'í principle. Consultation is regarded as the guiding light in human affairs, which also has great implications for the workplace. Agriculture is considered as the foremost industry, since food production is crucial to human happiness, but methods must now be developed which are beneficial to all life. A world currency also needs to be established. At present, currencies are assessed daily against each other, leading to great advantages for the richest handful of nations and to destabilisation of economies caused by currency speculation. A world currency would remove these problems.



A NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT
Bahá'ís believe that a totally new form of government is necessary. The Bahá'í pattern of administration is a simple but flexible system. In each town or village an election takes place for a Local Spiritual Assembly, which is a body of nine people chosen from the community. The election is by secret ballot, and is completely free, without any nomination or canvassing, and with no party or elite putting itself forward. Each individual simply chooses the nine people he or she feels inspired to vote for. The Local Spiritual Assembly has a wide range of duties to ensure general well-being, and its members should:

"...regard themselves as the guardians appointed of God for all that dwell on earth."

By a similar process, delegates are chosen who elect a Secondary (national) House of Justice. These national bodies elect the Universal House of Justice. Bahá'u'lláh said:

"This Earth is but one country and mankind its citizens."

Experience in a number of eastern European countries has shown how quickly these Local Spiritual Assemblies can form when the conditions are right, and how creative they can be in responding to economic and social needs. Having no clergy, and having an essentially "grass-roots" administration, the Bahá'í Faith is demonstrating that it has much to offer the peoples of eastern Europe.

http://manvell.org.uk/warwick-leaflets/communism.htm

[winniewillcocks]

Membership and religion

Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one. "There is no separate Masonic God", nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.

Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Deism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism can and have become Masons.

Since the early 19th Century, in the irregular Continental European tradition (meaning irregular to those Grand Lodges in amity with the United Grand Lodge of England), a very broad interpretation has been given to a (non-dogmatic) Supreme Being; in the tradition of Baruch Spinoza and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe — or views of The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness — along with Western atheistic idealism and agnosticism.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBQ78EVOHL9REEENV/p2

Whats your point? freemasons call god "the grand Arch of the Univrese" the only reason they call god this, is so any one can join and there will be no arguments about religeon.


The freemason thing has been done to death, they are a private members club who do not rule the world and would never allow world leaders to join.
They do alot for charity and do not show it off! Perhaps if we go on about this all the time they will stop the charity and we will have all the problems they sort out! What alot of good this forum/ icke would have done then.

Freemason give to charity every meeting they go to.

If I was them I would stop the charity because of all the bull about them on the net, because of Icke and forum members like december!!





Please all get over it!!

or are you still all wasting your time for the 33 leved degrees?!

[i am all i am]

[i]Membership and religion[i]

Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBQ78EVOHL9REEENV/p2

I LOVE YOU.

G'day December.

http://www.polachek.net/books/index.html

MAX HEINDEL

Ancient & Modern Initiation
Compiled Information Concerning Archetypes
Freemasonry and Catholicism
Gleanings of a Mystic
Message of the Stars
Nature Spirits & Nature Forces
Occult Principles of Health & Healing
Rosicrucian Cosmo-Conception
Rosicrucian Mysteries
Simplified Scientific Astrology
Teachings of an Initiate
The Mystical Interpretation of Christmas
The Mystical Interpretation of Easter
The Web of Destiny

These books can be read online at the above link. 'Freemasonry vs Catholicism' is an interesting read and shows the beliefs of the followers of Cain, the biblical son of Adam and Eve, brother of Abel, showing the religious background of freemasonry.

From 'Teachings of an Initiate'.....

Rosicrucian Symbolism

"Divine symbols which have been given to mankind from time to time speak to that forum of truth which is within our hearts, and waken our conciousness to divine ideas entirely beyond worlds." - Max Heindel The Emblem of the Western Mystery School of the Rosicrucians is one such symbol: in its entirety it represents God in manifestation. It expresses the key to man's past evolution, his present constitution, his future development, and the method of attainment.

The blue background represents God the Father; the golden star symbolises Christ born within the spiritual aspirant and radiating from the five points - the head and the four limbs; the red roses indicate the purification of the human desire nature on the cross of matter - the blood of the aspirant cleansed from passion. The white rose symbolises purity of heart and also the larynx with which, once purified, humanity will speak the Creative Word. The white cross represents the physical body. The golden star represents the "Golden Wedding Garment" - the etheric vehicle which the Spirit builds during lifetimes of purity and service.....

.....At the foot of the page is the fleur-de-lis, the emblem of the Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - but as only the Father and Holy Spirit were active at the time here represented, we find but two of the petals coloured wit red, thus showing energy.....

.....Although each stream looks alike outwardly, they are vastly different. The one on the left is known in our literature as the Sons of Cain. They are full of positive energy and are the craftsmen of the world, the phree-messen, who carve their way through life, rather enjoying the obstacles which they know strengthen the character;.....


Well, that appears to be religious.


THANK YOU.



http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[december]

Freemasonry, occultism & global oneness

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/freemasonry.htm

[intuition]

Theres no attack in a statement of truth December, unless truth is an enemy to you

And you can be as paranoid suspicious and terrified about me as you care to be, it makes no difference

When you are ready to discuss your own beliefs, then I will be ready to have a conversation with you

No offence but you sound like a grade A Nob.

[december]

Freemasonry, occultism & global oneness

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/freemasonry.htm

[kblood]

If the illuminati use satanic rituals, witchcraft and son, they have probably have people like Nostradamus working for them and they probably used his preminitions as well to further their goals.

As I see it (if the illuminati are real and as powerfull as David Icke says), the Illuminati knows that we are going to stand together in the future in some way, and their goal is to make sure they at that time are in power. That they manipulate a possible future to be one with them in power.

That is my guess anyway. I have felt the oneness and it sure isnt something they can just manipulate. We arent just living in some sandbox reality to humour higher beings playing Life in the Universe. Then again... I guess I would laugh if we were :D

[eternal_spirit]

I think you're right about old Nosa kblood , same goes for many authors. Orwell's 1984 he didn't predict the future, he knew that the Illuminati Elite had a plan, they always have advanced technology kept secret from us the masses. Remember Star Trek they had these cool mobile phones years before anyone else had them.

There are two versions of oneness, the communist, masonic idea, which isn't really one, the Elite have control, power and more money than the masses and believe they are superior.

Then the one where all are equal and part of creation where the people wan't a peacfull loving World. Btw good info december,

[kblood]

Then the one where all are equal and part of creation where the people wan't a peacfull loving World.

Yea, we are beings that have it all in us. As long as we have conflicts in us and around us, we cant all be peace loving in my oppinion. I think there are some truths in Darwins survival of the fittest theory. I just find it very foolish to believe that it applies to us humans as well, wether we did evolve from apes or not. In some ways we go against the law of nature... if there is such a thing as a law of nature at all :rolleyes:

[cruise4]

That communist Manifesto sure reminds me of the Reptilian Agenda posted elsewhere recently. I just read Nostradamus WWIII. Anyone else read it?

[kblood]

That communist Manifesto sure reminds me of the Reptilian Agenda posted elsewhere recently. I just read Nostradamus WWIII. Anyone else read it?

I have so far only the seen the movie about Nostradus (or is there more than one?). I have also read a bit on the Internet, but that was related to 911. I have my own info on 911, but I wont spill it in this forum just yet. Might make you all think im reptillian.

Is the book recommendable? And could you maybe give a short decription, since im lazy and dont want to seach for it on the Internet :p Most bookshops got short descriptions of the books they sell or at least some of them.

[kooo]

I have my own info on 911, but I wont spill it in this forum just yet. Might make you all think im reptillian.

Come on, spill the beans.. I promise, I won't think you're a reptile.

[kblood]

Come on, spill the beans.. I promise, I won't think you're a reptile.

I posted another thread about it. Then it wont get mixed too much with this one.

[december]

That communist Manifesto sure reminds me of the Reptilian Agenda posted elsewhere recently. I just read Nostradamus WWIII. Anyone else read it?

And The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

[december]

I have felt the oneness and it sure isnt something they can just manipulate. We arent just living in some sandbox reality to humour higher beings playing Life in the Universe. Then again... I guess I would laugh if we were :D

The so-called ONENESS have been tried in the USSR already, where the Masons wanted to build communism. But it didn't work of course.

So, NOW the same people are trying to mix all nations AND RACES into one with some other ideas such as global spiritualism and this sort of thinking -"we are humans who live on one planet, so we don't really need that old crap called history and heritage..."...

WAKE UP!

[december]

Freemasonry, occultism & global oneness

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/freemasonry.htm

[baron von lotsov]

Oneness = Communism.

Of course and Communism is an invention of the Freemasons and their banker friends.

I notice some people on here personally trying to confuse the issue. This board is riddled with people working for them, either knowingly or in their ignorance and desire to be brainwashed by one of the many New Age videos available. 'What the bleep do we know' is one of them and you should have seen the excitement amongst the mentally retarded towards singing it's praises. This is why the status quo exists; people get told many times and still put their heads in the fire. Some must be benefiting from infinite oneness is my conclusion. For them it helps their bank account. The elite love to corrupt people since when they profit from their lies they are effectively blackmailed.

[barbitone]

lol, you two are funny! :D

[edit]

WAKE UP!

http://www.operationterra.com/calmcntr.jpg (http://www.operationterra.com/)

[kblood]

Okay, to tell you the truth, oneness has alot to do with the masons, but only in a numerological way :)

[mada88]

I can't stand the way people go on about there culture. Culture goes from the top like rain coming down a mountain its not yours you borrow it like we borrow so much. Name, beliefs etc etc

The mind of a child is where evolution begins - Red Ice Creations

[eternal_spirit]

The baron and december speaketh sense

[december]

Of course and Communism is an invention of the Freemasons and their banker friends.

Baron von Lotsov, to understand the idea behind the concept of Infinite Oneness, you - British people, have to study (actually you MUST study) the history of the USSR (particularly the very early history of the Soviet Russia begining from 1917 till 1930s).

I used to live in the Soviet Union and I remember the Communist propaganda about Oneness and Global Brotherhood and how they wanted to eliminate the very idea of a sovereign nation and turn ALL NATIONS into one new race of men with no history and culture of their own.

In fact, Lenin and the rest of the Soviet Communists did say number of times that their prime goal is NOT to build the comminist society but to create a new man (aka Zombie with no heritage).

All you have to do is open Lenin's works and you will find everything you need to understand what Oneness is all about....

Works of Lenin - Google Search

http://www.sovlit.com/pics/goelro.jpg

[dondaz]

Is Oneness A Masonic Idea?

Not sure, but you are!:D

[december]

I notice some people on here personally trying to confuse the issue. This board is riddled with people working for them, either knowingly or in their ignorance and desire to be brainwashed by one of the many New Age videos available. 'What the bleep do we know' is one of them and you should have seen the excitement amongst the mentally retarded towards singing it's praises.

And here's the proof of what you have said:


lol, you two are funny! :D

Okay, to tell you the truth, oneness has alot to do with the masons, but only in a numerological way :)

I can't stand the way people go on about there culture. Culture goes from the top like rain coming down a mountain its not yours you borrow it like we borrow so much. Name, beliefs etc etc

The mind of a child is where evolution begins - Red Ice Creations

The baron and december speaketh sense

Not sure, but you are!:D


With these sort of posters this forum will turn into a tabloid pretty soon...

[teslafire]

Oneness is a natural idea, masonic or not.

[joss classey]

And here's the proof of what you have said:













With these sort of posters this forum will turn into a tabloid pretty soon...

This is SO typical of the Brits... you sure do like to TALK, ARGUE, MAKE SILLY JOKES and COMPLAIN but you don't do anything...


you're the one who sounds like a fucking tabloid journalist

[eternal_spirit]

I think you're looking in the mirror december. Most of what you post is straight out of the Tabloid press. Second hand News

http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/front%20page/Hilter%20-%20Wanted-st.jpg

http://www.globaljournalist.org/magazine/2004-4/images/chronic-crisis.jpg

Just like the News heres another repeat post. :D

[i_am]

The so-called ONENESS have been tried in the USSR already, where the Masons wanted to build communism. But it didn't work of course.

So, NOW the same people are trying to mix all nations AND RACES into one with some other ideas such as global spiritualism and this sort of thinking -"we are humans who live on one planet, so we don't really need that old crap called history and heritage..."...

WAKE UP!

december you just don't get it do you?

communism is no more oneness than the so called democracy in which most of us live.

We are all equal is NOT oneness. Sure!! We are all equal except some of us are more equal than others :rolleyes: Do as we say , not as we do.

Oneness is a state of consciousness. It cannot be ordered. It is a state that we can only attain when we 'Get' infinite love, when we have compassion for our fellow traveller, when we do not see seperation through race, creed colour, belief, status or any polarity that you care to throw up.

But...whatever! It's your trip. We are all connected, whether you see it or you don't.

[eternal_spirit]

United we stand divided we fall. All for one one for all.

Depends, we have oneness as in NWO facist dictatorship. Then there's harmonious, all are equally respected expressing love and peace for one another.

[kblood]

I like the way it is here in Denmark :D It is a mix of communism and democracy. We got turned to follow the American way with the nice fat cash checks from the US, to have us stay away from communism.

Lucky break for us I think. Communism did not seem to turn out well. Our democracy here in Denmark even almost works. They sometimes have to repeat the same elections more than once to have us vote what they want us to. And still they fail. Our government might even be too honest :rolleyes: I am quite sure that many in the US, laugh at our feeble attempts to immitate the US :D

All that said, we currently do have a minister of state I guess it is called, who really likes to suck up to the US and the US president. "Is the US going to war? Send them some reinforcements!". I do believe it probably was a good choice to send some soldiers there to help. I have heard about soldiers actually doing peacekeeping in warzones like Iraq rather than just kill their way to have peace, rather than make peace.

Makes any sense? Guess not, im too tired. I will go ranting in my sleep instead.

At least I probably make more sense than December :p Maybe its just not his time of year :confused:

[king]

[QUOTE=december;76167]

Is Oneness A Masonic Idea?

of course it is!
only, so many of them New Agers still fall it.

I can see them all "wearing" the same kind of brainchip and blabbing about oneness

ROTFL

[barbitone]

[QUOTE]

of course it is!
only, so many of them New Agers still fall it.

I can see them all "wearing" the same kind of brainchip and blabbing about oneness

ROTFL

Hi there King. Would you mind defining "Oneness" for us please?
When you agree that "Oneness is a masonic idea", what thoughts come to your mind when you think of the subject at hand- "Oneness"?

Otherwise this thread and all your valuable information is wasted....

[catfood]

[i]Membership and religion

Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Deism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism can and have become Masons.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBQ78EVOHL9REEENV/p2

Buddhists don’t believe in a supreme being. Thay believe that we are part of one mass conciseness which is one with all creation.
Thay don’t say gods and spirits don’t exist but that thay are subject to the same reality we are, that is that thay must have a beginning and must eventually return to the mass conciseness. We are all one.

[tinmenace]

The masons want to take credit for everything, don't they? It's laughable.

[king]

[QUOTE=king;109440]

Hi there King. Would you mind defining "Oneness" for us please?
When you agree that "Oneness is a masonic idea", what thoughts come to your mind when you think of the subject at hand- "Oneness"?

Otherwise this thread and all your valuable information is wasted....


hmmm.... let's see what google search returns:

"Freemasonry, occultism & global oneness."

Mason is one of the topics in focus at Global Oneness.

"The mystic Mason, in building the eyes that see behind the apparent ritual, recognizes the oneness of life manif esting through the diversity of form"


"Global Oneness Commitment - a project for global oneness starting with the Venus Transit 2004 and ending with Venus Transit 2012
Global Oneness Community - an Internet community working for global oneness
Global Oneness Festival - festivals dedicated to spiritual growth
Global Oneness University - focusing on spiritual wisdoms from around the world"


"The Master Mason... that oneness with infinity by which he whose heart is quickened may understand "


"Global Oneness Commitment - a project for global oneness starting with the ... of the character and fate (according to Masonic tradition) of Hiram Abif; .".



"Masonic Traveler is one step to man's quest for further light, ... realizing with his truer understanding the oneness of all spiritual truth. ...
"


"Masonic Lodge; ..... David K. Bernard, The Oneness View of Jesus Christ"


darn, finding this info on the web was NOT a rocket science, was it?
anyways, here are some "clues". these ONENESS people are in my area:


Awakening into Oneness
Open Evening & Weekend Intensive with Arjuna Ardagh


In just the last few years an extraordinary phenomenon has emerged out of India, touching millions of people all over the world. The Oneness Blessing, known in India as Oneness Deeksha, is a transmission of divine energy that effects the activity of the brain, most commonly given by placing the hands on the recipient's head for a couple of minutes. Recipients commonly report greater stillness, presence, causeless joy and a feeling of "Oneness" with everything. The Oneness Blessing can be used to enhance physical healing, greater intimacy in relationship, material well being, and, most significantly, spontaneous and effortlessly living in an "Awakening into Oneness."

You will have an opportunity to discover why this simple technology has captivated the interest of dozens of Hollywood celebrities, celebrated musicians, writers, and teachers all over the world and several heads of state. Arjuna Ardagh has recently completed a definitive book and documentary film on the subject. Every participant will receive the Oneness Blessing from several experienced practitioners.

ORANGE COUNTY AUGUST 31, SEPT 1-2

This powerful intensive will include: ·
Four series of transmissions of the Oneness Blessing from many experienced practitioners
The Oneness Blessing to enhance vision and clarity around life purpose and mission
A deep initiation into "self inquiry" to break the trance of separation and catalyze radical awakening
An introduction to "other realization" to dissolve the sense of a "me" and a "not me", deeply initiating greater intimacy in relationship
A chance to examine the concepts we hold about the divine, and to let them go, making space for a direct and intimate relationship with God
The weekend will also include times of deep meditation and silence, dialogue and teachings, and dance and celebration
Arjuna Ardagh, MA is the author of The Translucent Revolution and five other books. His latest book: Awakening into Oneness, gives us a well researched peek into the profoundly transformative phenomenon called Oneness Blessing. Ardagh is the founder of the Living Essence Foundation in Nevada City, California, dedicated to the awakening of consciousness within the context of ordinary life. He also teaches the Deeper Love seminars with Chameli, his Norwegian wife.

Evening Event, August 31
When: Friday, 7:30 to 10:30 pm
Where: Masonic Lodge 23685 Birtcher Dr., Lake Forest CA 92630
Cost: $25

Weekend Intensive
When: Saturday, Sept 1, 10am to 6 pm
Sunday Sept 2, 10 am to 6 pm
Where: Elk's Lodge 25092 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo CA 92692
Cost: $195 (or $175 if prepaid by Aug. 10)

Registration & information:
Contact Stacey (949) 495-9689
or Eryk (714) 649-2896

More details: www.awakeningintooneness.com

Directions
Friday, August 31: Masonic Lodge 23685 Birtcher Dr, Lake Forest, CA 92630
From LA and north Orange County, take the 405 freeway south, to the 5 freeway south and get off at Lake Forest and turn left (East). Go two blocks, make a left at Aspan, and then make a left on Birtcher (there's no signal here). It's the second building complex on the right of the flagpole, the Masonic Lodge.
From the San Diego area and south Orange County, take the 5 freeway north, get off at Lake Forest and turn right (East). Go two blocks and then make a left at Aspan, and then make a left on Birtcher (there's no signal here). It's the second building complex on the right of the flagpole, the Masonic Lodge.
September 1 & 2 : Elk's Lodge 25092 Marguerite Parkway Mission Viejo, CA 92692
>From LA and north Orange County, take the 405 freeway south, to the 5 freeway south and get off at La Paz and turn left (East). Go approximately 1.3 miles and make a left on Marguerite Parkway. It's the second driveway. Make a right into the parking lot of the Elk's Lodge.
>From the San Diego area and south Orange County, take the 5 freeway north and get off at La Paz and turn right (East). Go approximately 1.3 miles and make a left on Marguerite Parkway. It's the second driveway. Make a right into the parking lot of the Elk's Lodge






rest assured that oneness + Hinduism = a masonic idea for New Man in New Age

or, to use that Masonic (Rosicrucian) disinformer/occult/tarot/Crowley/New Age peddler's term -- "new and improved Mark 5 Adamic being"
http://www.theedgeam.com/guests/pics/michael..tsarion.photo.1.gif
the ONENESS target is YOU, and it a new New Age compatible man..... and it will be so -- unless you wise up buddy!

[barbitone]

hmmm.... let's see what google search returns:

um, no, I wanted to know what YOU'RE understanding of oneness was......not google's.

[mightiswrong]

Interesting subject!

I here the masons do charity work amoung other things. Would you conclude that because the Masons are involvred in charity that therefore charity is a bad thing? Likewise if the Masons talk of oneness does it follow that oneness is false? Surely a secret society that is hiararchical can not truelly believe in oneness?

Communism is nothing to do with oneness. Communism is a form of socialism. We live under socialism today. It is where a ruler takes a share of everyones productivity and spends most of it on war etc. In the 'UK' the govt takes more than 50% of our productivity. Under communism they take it ALL and this leads to severe problems as it does in the 'UK' whereby people try to get back what has been stolen from them but can not because it has been squandered. Each is turned against the other in their attempt to get back their share. The young against the old, the rich against the poor, the country folk against the city folk etc. It is divisive and the divider is a manipulator and a liar.

"12. The world without reflects the circumstances and the conditions of the consciousness within.
13. If we find wisdom in the world within, we shall have the understanding to discern the marvelous possibilities that are latent in this world within, and we shall be given the power to make these possibilities manifest in the world without.
14. As we become conscious of the wisdom in the world within, we mentally take possession of this wisdom, and by taking mental possession we come into actual possession of the power and wisdom necessary to bring into manifestation the essentials necessary for our most complete and harmonious development.
15. The world within is the practical world in which the men and women of power generate courage, hope, enthusiasm, confidence, trust and faith, by which they are given the fine intelligence to see the vision and the practical skill to make the vision real.
16. Life is an unfoldment, not accretion. What comes to us in the world without is what we already possess in the world within.
17. All possession is based on consciousness. All gain is the result of an accumulative
consciousness. All loss is the result of a scattering consciousness.
18. Mental efficiency is contingent upon harmony; discord means confusion; therefore, he who would acquire power must be in harmony with Natural Law.
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19. We are related to the world without by the objective mind. The brain is the organ of this mind and the cerebro-spinal system of nerves puts us in conscious communication with every part of the body. This system of nerves responds to every sensation of light, heat, odor, sound and taste.
20. When this mind thinks correctly, when it understands the truth, when the thoughts sent through the cerebro-spinal nervous system to the body are constructive, these sensations are pleasant, harmonious.
21. The result is that we build strength, vitality and all constructive forces into our body, but it is through this same objective mind that all distress, sickness, lack, limitation and every form of discord and inharmony is admitted to our lives. It is therefore through the objective mind, by wrong thinking, that we are related to all destructive forces.
22. We are related to the world within by the subconscious mind. The solar plexus is the organ of this mind; the sympathetic system of nerves presides over all subjective sensations, such as joy, fear, love, emotion, respiration, imagination and all other subconscious phenomena. It is through the subconscious that we are connected with the Universal Mind and brought into relation with the Infinite constructive forces of the Universe.
23. It is the coordination of these two centers of our being, and the understanding of their functions, which is the great secret of life. With this knowledge we can bring the objective and subjective minds into conscious cooperation and thus coordinate the finite and the infinite. Our future is entirely within our own control. It is not at the mercy of any capricious or uncertain external power.
24. All agree that there is but one Principle or Consciousness pervading the entire Universe, occupying all space, and being essentially the same in kind at every point of its presence. It is all powerful, all wisdom and always present. All thoughts and things are within Itself. It is all in all.
25. There is but one consciousness in the universe able to think; and when it thinks, its thoughts become objective things to it. As this Consciousness is omnipresent, it must be present within every individual; each individual must be a manifestation of that Omnipotent, Omniscient and
Omnipresent Consciousness.
26. As there is only one Consciousness in the Universe that is able to think it necessarily follows that your consciousness is identical with the Universal Consciousness, or, in other words, all mind is one mind. There is no dodging this conclusion.
27. The consciousness that focuses in your brain cells is the same consciousness which focuses in the brain cells of every other individual. Each individual is but the individualization of the Universal, the Cosmic Mind.
28. The Universal Mind is static or potential energy; it simply is; it can manifest only through the individual, and the individual can manifest only through the Universal. They are one.
29. The ability of the individual to think is his ability to act on the Universal and bring it into manifestation. Human consciousness consists only in the ability of man to think. Mind in itself is believed to be a subtle form of static energy, from which arises the activities called 'thought, ' which is the dynamic phase of mind. Mind is static energy, thought is dynamic energy -the two phases of the same thing. Thought is therefore the vibratory force formed by converting static mind into dynamic mind.
30. As the sum of all attributes are contained in the Universal Mind, which is Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent, these attributes must be present at all times in their potential form in every individual. Therefore, when the individual thinks, the thought is compelled by its nature to embody itself in an objectivity or condition which will correspond with its origin.
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31. Every thought therefore is a cause and every condition an effect; for this reason it is absolutely essential that you control your thoughts so as to bring forth only desirable conditions.
32. All power is from within, and is absolutely under your control; it comes through exact knowledge and by the voluntary exercises of exact principles.
33. It should be plain that when you acquire a thorough understanding of this law, and are able to control your thought processes, you can apply it to any condition; in other words, you will have come into conscious cooperation with Omnipotent law which is the fundamental basis of all things.
34. The Universal Mind is the life principle of every atom which is in existence; every atom is continually striving to manifest more life; all are intelligent, and all are seeking to carry out the purpose for which they were created.
35. A majority of mankind lives in the world without; few have found the world within, and yet it is the world within that makes the world without; it is therefore creative and everything which you find in your world without has been created by you in the world within.
36. This system will bring you into a realization of power which will be yours when you understand this relation between the world without and the world within. The world within is the cause, the world without the effect; to change the effect you must change the cause.
37. You will at once see that this is a radically new and different idea; most men try to change effects by working with effects. They fail to see that this is simply changing one form of distress for another. To remove discord, we must remove the cause, and this cause can be found only in the world within.
38. All growth is from within. This is evident in all nature. Every plant, every animal, every human is a living testimony to this great law, and the error of the ages is in looking for strength or power from without...." (emphasis added)
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