Conspiracy theorists need to step it up

[blah]

To be honest, Ive givern up on the people on this forum. You can awake all you want, but unless you do something. I dont think it will change the forces that be. Instead this forum comes across as a moany, speculative, and often anti-semetic outlet. As a Jewish freemason, I have givern it a chance. But theres too many insults and prejudices, ignorance and not enough action.
Hopefully David Icke will bring out a pragmatic and practical book about what the average person can DO. Until then, I think ya'll going to be chasing your tails. The awakening is more like a slow opening of one eye. A real awakening would spur people on. The truth is the average/common man has always believed the elite to have supernatural powers of some kind. And often dellusional ways of seeing them forms. These dellusional ways only help the Illuminati. Because if we see them as some sort of beasty-alien-humans that keeps them at least well out of our league. Unable to effect real change. Nothing new is happening on this forum . Also you find conspiracy theorists are extremists in some way, extreme christian or extreme anti-freemasonary, or extreme exaggerators. Its not cool.

Peace out -

[synergy777]

taken from another thread, but lets be honest with eachother. we haven't got a clue about whats true and whats elite disinfo.

we all know that the elite exists, they control the financial, political, religous spheres of our world.

we know the system eg capitalism is broke, we know that we need a more equitable world for everyone.

we know we need to have the truth about our history, religions, and science to become mainstream, and not just be in the elites hands.

we can ask people to rebel, to revolt, but this is not a film, this is not the matrix, spartacus etc.

people are scared to rebel, because they have responsibility to loved ones. you can't expect people to rebel without any good alternatives being offered. what can we honestly offer as an alternative to the status quo.

anarchy, lawlessness is not what i want, thats going from one extreme to another. the fact is we have to understand the people, empathise with the people, we are the people.

would you like your loved ones to live in anarchy, hardship etc, no you wouldn't. we have to be mature, and not get enchanted by the notions of revolution.

we have to be pragmatic not idealistic.

listen, i have family, etc, what will society be like if the current corrupt power structure is toppled. people will soon resort back to power grabs, trust me. alot of these anarchists, extreme left eg greens, anti globalisation people, are flawed.

they have good intentions, eg a more eco-friendly life, a more compassionate society. but these are empty promises. we have to be professional, intelligent and present a good alternative.

what alternative have we got, how would the changes be implemented. what experienced, skilled people have we got to usher in these much needed changes. our whole civilisation needs to change, we don't need a revoulution, we need evolution. we need to improve, tweak, upgrade the systems eg economic, education, scientific, etc.

i think evolution is the way, not revolution. thus we need to rebel against the elite, but the hard work will begin after, when the work needs to be done in making the systems better.

too many researchers etc pick out the obvious flaws, but don't present any credible alternatives

[hellosatellites]

To be honest, Ive givern up on the people on this forum. You can awake all you want, but unless you do something. I dont think it will change the forces that be. Instead this forum comes across as a moany, speculative, and often anti-semetic outlet. As a Jewish freemason, I have givern it a chance. But theres too many insults and prejudices, ignorance and not enough action.
Hopefully David Icke will bring out a pragmatic and practical book about what the average person can DO. Until then, I think ya'll going to be chasing your tails. The awakening is more like a slow opening of one eye. A real awakening would spur people on. The truth is the average/common man has always believed the elite to have supernatural powers of some kind. And often dellusional ways of seeing them forms. These dellusional ways only help the Illuminati. Because if we see them as some sort of beasty-alien-humans that keeps them at least well out of our league. Unable to effect real change. Nothing new is happening on this forum . Also you find conspiracy theorists are extremists in some way, extreme christian or extreme anti-freemasonary, or extreme exaggerators. Its not cool.

Peace out -

Hey there Blah
I apprecciate your eagerness and sensible approach regarding REAL solutions and progress...and i like reading your posts. You seem so knowledgable about human nature (so clear in your post about David Icke fearing for his life-thread), and I don't have so much to say to you regarding this forum - maybe you are just done with it, so do what you have to do - but i do feel like quoting a member here (i think it was Anthony65) who said that in the present conditions and repressed/depressed societies, HAPPINESS is one of the most radical forms of rebellion :) So whilst i agree with you on the importance, and urgency, of a wider awakening, i disagree with you that what we are doing by posting here and keeping this forum alive means "nothing". First of all, many many many people read this forum, people who never sign up or post, but they read and learn and start thinking...maibe some aspect will catch their curiosity, and they start reseacrching...in their own time wake up...So we are not just chatting or squibbeling amongst ourselves here...there is a wider audience - the macro cosmos if you will :) in play too. I'm sure that for someone out there who is questioning the state of the world, or feel that there is some pretty sinister forces trying to exploit our basic human nature or getting a deep sense of the matrix that we are seemingly stuck in; it helps and inspires to come across a forum such as this one and realise that many people are having similar thoughts and feelings. Our societys are so off now, that people start medicating the minute they have an incling that something is wrong...The Powers That Be want us to believe there is something wrong with us, of course, so we stop questioning them, the "experts", the elite. So coming onto a forum like this, may mean all the difference between someone going back to sleep (taking that prozac/ritalin/whatever) and someone continuing the journey of discovery and awakening. Keep questioning, dare to search for REALITY. It's a tremendous relief for someone to know they are not just a paranoid, depressed freak who can't fit in and find their place qietly on the shelf like they're supposed to :)
There is nothing wrong with you, and a lot wrong with the way our societies are heading.
Secondly, i'm sure many of the posters here are doing A LOT more in their everyday lives, than merely posting here...meeting and interacting with society on so many different levels.
Just by being alive, and vibrating at a different level than what tptb want you to, you are making a statement, and a difference :)
But i understand your frustration...we all want it to happen NOW, the freedom, the love, the oneness etc...

[blah]

Thanks for your post. Well, I dont know...
I hope what you say is true! But the leaders such as David Icke do need to offer more solutions however, it depends on your defination of awakening as well. Whats your defination?..

[disorder2k8]

the 100th monkey or critital mass point will hopefully approach soon, then it wont make you feel like an outcast for doing something

[impermanence]

To be honest, Ive givern up on the people on this forum. You can awake all you want, but unless you do something. I dont think it will change the forces that be. Instead this forum comes across as a moany, speculative, and often anti-semetic outlet. As a Jewish freemason, I have givern it a chance. But theres too many insults and prejudices, ignorance and not enough action.
Hopefully David Icke will bring out a pragmatic and practical book about what the average person can DO. Until then, I think ya'll going to be chasing your tails. The awakening is more like a slow opening of one eye. A real awakening would spur people on. The truth is the average/common man has always believed the elite to have supernatural powers of some kind. And often dellusional ways of seeing them forms. These dellusional ways only help the Illuminati. Because if we see them as some sort of beasty-alien-humans that keeps them at least well out of our league. Unable to effect real change. Nothing new is happening on this forum . Also you find conspiracy theorists are extremists in some way, extreme christian or extreme anti-freemasonary, or extreme exaggerators. Its not cool.

Peace out -

As one of the very few Irish Jews on the board, I'm amazed at how the crowd here is awakening to Jewish hegemony so easily, I want them to see what's going on, unlike you. I'm sick of the games, I don't feel Jewish and I'm only happy the expose the sinister goal of Zionism and Jewish influence in the west. Be VERY aware my people, we're so clever we'll have you sign a lifetime contract before you can sneeze. Be very aware my friends, we Jews are ruthless.

[impermanence]

As one of the very few Irish Jews on the board, I'm amazed at how the crowd here is awakening to Jewish hegemony so easily, I want them to see what's going on, unlike you. I'm sick of the games, I don't feel Jewish and I'm only happy the expose the sinister goal of Zionism and Jewish influence in the west. Be VERY aware my people, we're so clever we'll have you sign a lifetime contract before you can sneeze. Be very aware my friends, we Jews are ruthless.

Lawl

[metacomet]

To be honest, Ive givern up on the people on this forum. You can awake all you want, but unless you do something. I dont think it will change the forces that be. Instead this forum comes across as a moany, speculative, and often anti-semetic outlet. As a Jewish freemason, I have givern it a chance.


Stopped reading after that sentence.

I assure you it is not because I'm anti-semitic.

[vladmir]

Stopped reading after that sentence.
me too.:cool:

[boots]

Thanks for your post. Well, I dont know...
I hope what you say is true! But the leaders such as David Icke do need to offer more solutions however, it depends on your defination of awakening as well. Whats your defination?..


Icke is only providing information. The solutions are up to you to come up with. His point is that we are infinite consciousness.

The guy doesn't want to be a leader.

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[Ian2day]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=921615#post921615

[blah]

Yes nutcases who just further want to make life harder for Jews worldwide. What ever your opinion. You have no right to spread hate. This xmas I was appalled by how many of my Jewish friends had experienced verbal attacks, hate and intimidation and again, it has nothing to do with politics. Im not even living in Israel and they werent even zionists or religious extremists. But I can see that some will use this board to do exactly that, spread hate of certain groups, scape-goating and targetting what is ultimately peoples freedoms, what they believe in, what they eat, how they approach spirituality. The fact that your on this forum purposely exposing JEWS, shows you have no proper perspective on how this will effect the average Jew. Anyway, I have givern my arguement against this on another thread. Your not exposing anything, the nazis have already done that with sites like jew-watch for a considerable amount of time. And MANY other websites that are blatently anti-semetic. To be honest it just brings us back to a fascist day and age this " pointing fingers". Even freemasons have a right to practice what they want. But in any case now I know the effects it has on people. I will take more precaution on trusting such groups to have any common sense.

I guess though your just doing your job that the Illuminati want you to do ultimately which is to cause trouble and spread more mess in this world. Im happy to hear conspiracy theorists and their conclusions about various specific groups, but not the venom that accompanies this, and the out-right displacement of reponsibility. But I guess this is the way of the world.

Non-specific solutions do not work. The 60's have gone, flowers, peace and love. David Icke should do a Questions and Answers in the chat room because in anycase the world changes so fast, that what may have worked 5yrs ago wont now. And his fans are so varied in perspective/background, some need to not go off into the deep end of extreme paranoia and targetting innocent groups .

Having followed the works of various conspiracy theorists for a few years now I can finally say, I am going to stop. Seems pointless. Since their fans are too wimpish to do anything in any case, do something non-violent or aggressive that is. Ive givern up on them .. This awareness of elite corrupt activities has been out there for 100s of years ( no actually thousands of years ) Its being used now for what end I dont know .

Anyone know how I can delete my account/profile ?

[ronisron]

Yes nutcases who just further want to make life harder for Jews worldwide. What ever your opinion. You have no right to spread hate. This xmas I was appalled by how many of my Jewish friends had experienced verbal attacks, hate and intimidation and again, it has nothing to do with politics. Im not even living in Israel and they werent even zionists or religious extremists. But I can see that some will use this board to do exactly that, spread hate of certain groups, scape-goating and targetting what is ultimately peoples freedoms, what they believe in, what they eat, how they approach spirituality. The fact that your on this forum purposely exposing JEWS, shows you have no proper perspective on how this will effect the average Jew. Anyway, I have givern my arguement against this on another thread. Your not exposing anything, the nazis have already done that with sites like jew-watch for a considerable amount of time. And MANY other websites that are blatently anti-semetic. To be honest it just brings us back to a fascist day and age this " pointing fingers". Even freemasons have a right to practice what they want. But in any case now I know the effects it has on people. I will take more precaution on trusting such groups to have any common sense.

I guess though your just doing your job that the Illuminati want you to do ultimately which is to cause trouble and spread more mess in this world. Im happy to hear conspiracy theorists and their conclusions about various specific groups, but not the venom that accompanies this, and the out-right displacement of reponsibility. But I guess this is the way of the world.

Non-specific solutions do not work. The 60's have gone, flowers, peace and love. David Icke should do a Questions and Answers in the chat room because in anycase the world changes so fast, that what may have worked 5yrs ago wont now. And his fans are so varied in perspective/background, some need to not go off into the deep end of extreme paranoia and targetting innocent groups .

Having followed the works of various conspiracy theorists for a few years now I can finally say, I am going to stop. Seems pointless. Since their fans are too wimpish to do anything in any case, do something non-violent or aggressive that is. Ive givern up on them .. This awareness of elite corrupt activities has been out there for 100s of years ( no actually thousands of years ) Its being used now for what end I dont know .

Anyone know how I can delete my account/profile ?

Just stop posting, your account will become inactive.

A lot of the people on here are proactive. They demonstrate, start petitions, circulate info on other sites, and it gets the word out. Changing your mind, is changing your reality. Seeking out others who share many of your viewpoints, plus give you a few more to consider, is good for all of us. I don't think anyone on here sees the government, media, police, wars, religion, television.... any of it the same way that they used to just a few short years ago. They see it as a lie, they see the liars for who they are. If you don't believe the lies that are being spread through the above outlets and understand their manipulation, they can't trip you up anymore. You're a couple of steps ahead of that game.

This site and most on it don't come down to anti Jewish, or "anti semitic". (BTW, the original definition of being anti semitic is to be against Semites, or people from PALESTINE. This includes people of Palestinian, Hebrew, and Arabic descent. Since folks of the Jewish faith [who span a broad range of ethnic groups] have origins in Palestine, certain PTB's have co-opted the word to mean Anti Jewish. It's true meaning is to be against anyone from Palestine.) I think a lot of people are anti Zionist, and rightfully so. This includes a lot of Jewish people. There is Rabbi Ahron Cohen, who has been branded "anti Semitic" by the Zionists in Israel. He is a Rabbi living in Jerusalem who preaches peace and harmony amongst the ethnic groups, and people of Arabic, Palestinian and Hebrew descent make up his over 100,000 followers. He doesn't buy the Zionist "We OWN this land and everyone else are interlopers" propaganda at all.

The Jews in Israel are also dying at the hands of the Zionists...... It's awful if people are actually yelling anti Jewish sentiments at you and or your friends, that defines ignorance. The simple fact is, that the Zionists who purport to be as Jews are despicable people, and ignorance leads some people to paint all Jewish people with the same brush. I don't like that. There is not just a fine line, there is a GULF between decent people of the Jewish faith and the Zionists. Decent Jewish people need to know that the Zionists are every bit as nasty as the Nazi party ever was, and their atrocities also extend to the Jewish people they claim to represent. Perhaps you could be proactive in this way, by spreading this message to the good people you know. Good people make all the difference.

Proactive does not mean revolution, and violent uprising, and I hope that what you meant by "doing something" wasn't to suggest the above. That's a game we can't win. Kill 'em with kindness, I say. ;)

Once again, just stop posting, and you'll be "inactive" soon enough. But don't take my word for it, I'm not sure. Your best bet would be to PM a mod and request your leave there.

[hellosatellites]

Thanks for your post. Well, I dont know...
I hope what you say is true! But the leaders such as David Icke do need to offer more solutions however, it depends on your defination of awakening as well. Whats your defination?..

Well, i don't have a clearcut definition of 'being awake' to pin on your fridge door or something, but a big part of being awake is definitely being able to be aware and face reality the way it is and be free...and a big part of awareness and freedom is independence and a big part of independence means that concepts such as 'the leaders' become absolutely obsolete. So awakening... it's sort of a chain reaction, an interaction of many spiritual qualities that work together to sustain the core of who you are in the core of what reality is.
My advice; stop using terms such as 'the leaders' - you are not a baby anymore are you, or even a follower :) I don't really give a shit if you are a jewish freemason, does that make you better or worse than say a catholic baker or a voodoo farmer or a buddhist doctor...if you get my drift: titles and status etc are external, temporary and interchangable. And our sense of identity is often fragile when we have made ourselves dependent on external factors to get a sense of self. Much more interesting about you than jewish freemason, for me at least, is What are you, in your heart of heart? Without the rigid external labels to identify you. Are you really a jewish freemason:) man, bored, etc...is that really all you are?
What and who are you without 'leaders' to compare yourself to? Who and what are you in and of yourself?
My guess: You are something infinitely beautiful, something that you or i or anyone may not even be able to ever label. I bet you anything :p:)
Anything.

[blah]

Thanks Hell and Roni.

Yes Roni precisely, infact this Israeli issue is so apparent for most that I dont need to spread the word. Life experience speaks for itself. So I would say that I dont need to educate any of my Jewish friends on this, they know full well things are not what they seem and that ethically and morally whats happening there is plain criminal but this isnt happening because of religion . And to be quite honest, the Israeli Rabbis that encourage Zionism/Talmud are often on the " agenda" as you rightly said. The issue is that instilling fears into the average Jewish person just makes us more afraid of our place in the world and furthers the Zionist agenda. Many Jews left the UK for Israel since the latest rantings of Nazis.. infact they werent nazis they were university educated liberals and muslims.
Lets not also forget the Vatican interest in Israel!

Zionism and Judaism itself are two seperate things! Zionisms gave Jews a safe home after sustained trauma and mass murder. However, I do believe that there was considerable damage already done in the Holocoust and lots of experimentation/mind control.. you name it.

There is an incredibly strong Jewish spiritual psyche, that hasnt been broken and to be very clear thats because our ancestry carries certain ancient knowledges. That are universal and still influence the world today. Christianity ,Islam..

Assimilating means learning from other cultures this is an important part of Jewish culture and why we have never had a homeland as it were. Learning from other cultures, an education of perspective lets say, it becomes a very important part of the Jewish spiritual journey - diaspora. Definately Jews are some of the most courageous and original people on this earth. So I am proud of my heritage. However, because of my pride I dont put others down.. Does that make sense?... So when I see others putting certain groups down I wonder why. It seems non-sensical as ultimately we are all human, and on our own quest if you will.

In Ancient Egypt the Illuminati of the day, ruled over Jews, we remember this every holiday the slavery, its a constant reminder to fight for freedoms and ones rights, for good. Thats not to say there are not corrupt Jews however. Seeing that we prayer for world every shabbat, and remember that we fought the elite and won, guess what that means?... We see it clear. At least the more spiritual sorts do anyway. But when brainwashing is rampant, as it is with all cultures, that includes USA and UK seeing clearly doesnt happen often. And with Judaism everything comes to life. Its a great religion --- however! It is like all religions not without its flaws, and thats why you find many NON-religious Jews because there are so many flaws in the Talmud and Torah that in this day and age simply do not work, arent justified and dont make sense.

Well, whats in my heart? My heart doesnt have a brain, just as my leg doesnt have a brain to be honest. So who knows. Just hope its a healthy one!
So I would say that each human works on multiple levels, physical, spiritual, and above and beyond!
I understand what you mean about labels and titles. Freemasons however again are not awful people, same goes for Rosicrucians etc.. They operate on a different level -- not altogeather different but a higher philisophical level if you will that tends to incorporate the whole and elements of the spirit that have been forgotten. But what if tommorow they disappeared? Would it make the world any better. I think not. I am just concerned with scape-goating certain groups thats all. Scape-goating is also a form of mass distraction. Look this way and sometimes the real enemy is right behind you.
.
I dont view David Icke as a leader, hes more of an educator. But.. once people are listening its good to offer positive solutions, otherwise fools tend to interperate what is said and go off on hate tangents mixed with paranoia/dellusions and what not. Ive gotten alot out of David Ickes beliefs personally just because I notice the passion with which he writes his books that appealed to me. His determination.

But is this a small task for the average person who has no power and no money, no! Its not at all, eyes need to be wide open when approaching these things. And a solid sense of the two conflicting realities, what is seen and what is not seen, that the Illuminati make damn good use of.

I just hope people on this forum dont get caught in the shit. Because my family worked with occultism and government. I saw the negative effect it has on families - I went through it albeit in a distanced way. But it truely screws people up! Its meant to, if you have witnessed corruption on a high level, think your going to get away?.. Not lightly. The occult-government mindset also has very high standards, and knows how to manuvuer their way back into positions of power. Its expected. As with the Bush family, never really being punished for their crimes. Its also very inclusive and secretive. We are givern signs, all the time, this way not that way and so on. Occult knowledge is passed down as a way of life! So in this sense conspiracy theorists are doing their job. But ... the hysteria and ideas that people have can still be very limiting.

Im not saying this because Im a Jewish freemason -- I am saying this because people do have " untapped power" very often and I genuinely care, that people make the best of their awakening. And that its effects can be seen in as being progressive, non-prejudice and fair .

[bones]

i was chatting with my sister yesteay and she isnt into all the david icke stuff and when i talk to her about things like flouride, aspartame, vaccines atc, ahe finds it interesting as she can relate to it.

over the last 2 yrs she has many friends either on line or around her, and she told me last night that after all the stuff ive said she has noticed lots of ppl becoming aware of the shit were being exposed to and that shes now thinking im not that mad and took more of an interest last night into hearing my thoughts.

wied that many ppl are listening and just knowing without being told shit...

[hellosatellites]

Thanks Hell and Roni.

Yes Roni precisely, infact this Israeli issue is so apparent for most that I dont need to spread the word. Life experience speaks for itself. So I would say that I dont need to educate any of my Jewish friends on this, they know full well things are not what they seem and that ethically and morally whats happening there is plain criminal but this isnt happening because of religion . And to be quite honest, the Israeli Rabbis that encourage Zionism/Talmud are often on the " agenda" as you rightly said. The issue is that instilling fears into the average Jewish person just makes us more afraid of our place in the world and furthers the Zionist agenda. Many Jews left the UK for Israel since the latest rantings of Nazis.. infact they werent nazis they were university educated liberals and muslims.
Lets not also forget the Vatican interest in Israel!

Zionism and Judaism itself are two seperate things! Zionisms gave Jews a safe home after sustained trauma and mass murder. However, I do believe that there was considerable damage already done in the Holocoust and lots of experimentation/mind control.. you name it.

There is an incredibly strong Jewish spiritual psyche, that hasnt been broken and to be very clear thats because our ancestry carries certain ancient knowledges. That are universal and still influence the world today. Christianity ,Islam..

Assimilating means learning from other cultures this is an important part of Jewish culture and why we have never had a homeland as it were. Learning from other cultures, an education of perspective lets say, it becomes a very important part of the Jewish spiritual journey - diaspora. Definately Jews are some of the most courageous and original people on this earth. So I am proud of my heritage. However, because of my pride I dont put others down.. Does that make sense?... So when I see others putting certain groups down I wonder why. It seems non-sensical as ultimately we are all human, and on our own quest if you will.

In Ancient Egypt the Illuminati of the day, ruled over Jews, we remember this every holiday the slavery, its a constant reminder to fight for freedoms and ones rights, for good. Thats not to say there are not corrupt Jews however. Seeing that we prayer for world every shabbat, and remember that we fought the elite and won, guess what that means?... We see it clear. At least the more spiritual sorts do anyway. But when brainwashing is rampant, as it is with all cultures, that includes USA and UK seeing clearly doesnt happen often. And with Judaism everything comes to life. Its a great religion --- however! It is like all religions not without its flaws, and thats why you find many NON-religious Jews because there are so many flaws in the Talmud and Torah that in this day and age simply do not work, arent justified and dont make sense.

Well, whats in my heart? My heart doesnt have a brain, just as my leg doesnt have a brain to be honest. So who knows. Just hope its a healthy one!
So I would say that each human works on multiple levels, physical, spiritual, and above and beyond!
I understand what you mean about labels and titles. Freemasons however again are not awful people, same goes for Rosicrucians etc.. They operate on a different level -- not altogeather different but a higher philisophical level if you will that tends to incorporate the whole and elements of the spirit that have been forgotten. But what if tommorow they disappeared? Would it make the world any better. I think not. I am just concerned with scape-goating certain groups thats all. Scape-goating is also a form of mass distraction. Look this way and sometimes the real enemy is right behind you.
.
I dont view David Icke as a leader, hes more of an educator. But.. once people are listening its good to offer positive solutions, otherwise fools tend to interperate what is said and go off on hate tangents mixed with paranoia/dellusions and what not. Ive gotten alot out of David Ickes beliefs personally just because I notice the passion with which he writes his books that appealed to me. His determination.

But is this a small task for the average person who has no power and no money, no! Its not at all, eyes need to be wide open when approaching these things. And a solid sense of the two conflicting realities, what is seen and what is not seen, that the Illuminati make damn good use of.

I just hope people on this forum dont get caught in the shit. Because my family worked with occultism and government. I saw the negative effect it has on families - I went through it albeit in a distanced way. But it truely screws people up! Its meant to, if you have witnessed corruption on a high level, think your going to get away?.. Not lightly. The occult-government mindset also has very high standards, and knows how to manuvuer their way back into positions of power. Its expected. As with the Bush family, never really being punished for their crimes. Its also very inclusive and secretive. We are givern signs, all the time, this way not that way and so on. Occult knowledge is passed down as a way of life! So in this sense conspiracy theorists are doing their job. But ... the hysteria and ideas that people have can still be very limiting.

Im not saying this because Im a Jewish freemason -- I am saying this because people do have " untapped power" very often and I genuinely care, that people make the best of their awakening. And that its effects can be seen in as being progressive, non-prejudice and fair .

:) I agree wholeheartedly with you, many people have untapped powers of awareness that if understood and cultivated could make such a huge difference in their own individual lives, aswell as helping the collective consciousness progress. I also agree that people, such as Icke are educators :) as are we all in our small or big ways, by virtue of the quality of what we bring to the table. It's good to know that nothing is cast in stone, and that there is always room for improvement.
It's interesting to read about your observations - coming as they are from someone who has been on the inside. You sound like you have seen a lot.

I see (feel) many people that 'wake up' go through phases of temporary cynicism and feelings of disillusionment and futility on behalf of the human race...i believe that as much as knowledge and action (including constructive non-cooperation) are important in this fight for freedom, it is far more ordinary and humble things that keeps us on track now; a sense of humour, compassion and listening to our intuition. And anybody can do that. Don't mean to sound glib or banal, but things like that - the ordinary human stuff - is what keeps us nourished, strong and connected to each other at soul level - and i believe that is ultimtely where the war is going on. The ptb do anything they can to deaden our souls, make us depressed etc...the ultimate rebellion against that is staying alive on soul level and seeking to embody as many spiritual and creative qualities as possible.

:)